San Francisco's Fog Could Be a Casualty of Climate Change… But It Could Also Be a Solution
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- čas přidán 27. 12. 2022
- Warming oceans and a warming planet are threatening a weather phenomenon that's central to San Francisco's identity and the Bay Area's mild climate - but the fog could also be an untapped solution to the historic droughts facing California.
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I moved to the City in June 1991..without a jacket or hoodie. I was instantly depressed but in love with the Bay Area by summer’s end.
And you learned, like the rest of us, to bring a jacket or go back inside before the temperature drops 10 degrees 😃
I grew up in the peninsula, then lived many many years in the East Bay. Now that i'm back in the Peninsula, I noticed much less fog than my youth.
Remember in 2020 we had lot of hot days and that massive thunderstorm during the heatwave. Never seen anything like it before.
Don't worry it'll return 🤣 what a frigging scam, and you morons fall for it hook. Line, and sinker.
It's called the solar grand minimum and the access of our planet in cycles. Not easily manipulated dumbtard brains that accept suggestions easily from the idiot box boob tube while the corrupt establishment laughs all the way to the bank, and you turn over your rights.
Bay area is truly wondrous.
Your bigger now diff perspective
There's actually something about the fog that's comforting to me. I moved out here to Phoenix, Arizona, & it's so darn dry, it's actually depressing.
Same deal in LA, when I was a kid growing up in the 1970's, & even in the 80's, there used to be a LOT more fog then!!!
Arizona is very dry. I visited in February and March once though and the desert was surprisingly alive with plant life then. I didn't research it but those months are probably the wettest time of the year there and maybe because of that and being spring, it's really nice during those months. A friend and I biked old cattle trails in the Camelback mountains every day early in the morning and it was very fresh and beautiful. There was the smell of jasmine and sage and the orange blossoms blooming when driving past the orange tree orchards.
Anyway I guess I'm saying if possible try to figure out how and when to best incorporate nature into your life there and it might help to deal with it better. Also, take baths and know where any natural springs are to take advantage of them if possible.
@@tinaperez7393 I understand. But the summer months are a hot, brutal broiler oven!! 🥵🔥🥵🔥🥵🔥🥵🔥
@@marcchatow9516 Yeah. That can't be good when you can't be outside 3-4 months of the year. 😩😭
Nothing more comforting than the sound of fog horns at night on Nob Hill.
its important to have this fog since a lot of plants native to california rely on fog to absorb nutrients n moisture
what nutrients are in pure water?
The Redwood Trees is the one that relies on fog.
September, October have always been hot in San Francisco. Indian summer, this is nothing new.
Yup. That is exactly how I remember it.
We dont call the fog "Karl" any Bay Area native dont call it that
YEAH WE CALL POOP KARL💩
Ya we do
i work on the dumbarton and the fog has been insane on the other hand, really humid and cold temps too. Our world is in a weird place
No one who’s native, born and raised to the Bay Area calls the fog “Karl”. Only outsides call it Karl
California has this unearned and undeserved reputation of being so welcoming and inclusive but it's comments like these that prove otherwise. Just another form of gatekeeping. Couldn't care less what natives do and don't do but they sure do see fit to sound the alarm the second someone refers to it as San Fran or Frisco. Buncha cupcakes.
@@TyTyMcGinty Could it be that many people who come to the Bay Area are just looking out for themselves. Buying and flipping houses, apartment complexes, and condos for outrageous prices while pricing out regular people who have lived here for decades. If you don’t give a crap about the natives, the natives won’t give a crap you.
think the only time i call it karl is when ppl ask "hey doesnt our fog have a name?" but never do i wake up and go "ahhh, good to see you karl!" lmao just "mm, beautiful fog, nice day today"
Born and raised there, never heard the Karl thing. But it makes for a good story for the work on the climate change money making scheme, I mean the work on the climate emergency
my partner is born and raised native SF and calls it Karl. Maybe it's a joke with younger generations more so than older ones.
Years ago, I mentioned to another native when we were neighbors in the District of Columbia that I had taken the train up the Peninsula and the fog was pouring in over the mountains. She sighed, "Oh, the fog." with a sense of nostalgia. I have likened the appearance of a good fog bank to that of the mountains wearing an ermine coat.
You may also wish to discuss the tule fogs over in the Central Valley. I was crossing the street one evening in Sacramento and the air was congealing around me. When it gets thick enough, it sometimes flows out to the ocean through the Carquinez Strait and the Golden Gate.
Huh?
Native what?
Grown up in the bay. I can say I don't miss the fog. You can go for weeks without sunshine in the winter. It's depressing. I need sunshine in my life.
Me too. I can take the fog and gloomy weather for a few days but then after that I need the sun again cause I need energy and motivation and the gloomy weather just doesn’t make me want to do anything.
I mean, that’s kind of beside the point right?
It’s not simply a matter of whether or not we enjoy the fog as part of our “visual experience”, or whether or not, we have an emotional connection to it from our childhood, similar to the woman in the peace.
All that actually matters and should concern us is the way in which fog plays such a large role in water delivery throughout the bay area to the valley. Right? I mean, even if your not concerned with that, it’s only another example of a great many that systems all over are changing due to climate change, fueled by global warming.
@@SilentSamurai8 I understand what you're saying. Climate going happen There just too many hot air breathing human in this planet. Wait until people stop having babies and we'll have another climate change. It is already happening in modern society more woman get a taste of money they don't want to hAve kids no more.
I moved from San Francisco to San Jose. I miss the fog slightly. Just moved to Berkeley. It's really ideal here.
Move to a desert and get your sun
When I was a young girl you could walk forever in the fog and it felt so good on your face. I always used to tell people that's why San Francisco women had such beautiful skin because of the fog. I have noticed over the years it's not the same and there's very little of it. I appreciated this. Beautiful gray damp stillness.
Fog is really disappearing. I remembered Chinatown was also very foggy back in the 70s. Now Chinatown does really have too much fog. I currently live in Sunset. It used to be very very foggy once passed the tunnel. This year I don’t see as much fog where feels like misty.
I live in sunset too and i use to walk to Lincoln high enjoyin that weather.
I complained all my life… then with the fires… I miss the fog
I miss the artists and musicians. Too bad our tech colonizers see little value in the environment or the culture.
I remember you'd open your windows in the morning to catch the fog to keep your home cooled later in the day when we would close up the house
4th gen former SF native here, and I hate to break it to you, but the climate always has, and always will, change. There is literally NOTHING we can do about it. All it takes is one good volcanic eruption to wipe out all that carbon savings we've been so worried about.
Oh no! Our redwood and sequioa trees need the fog to survive
Maybe if you vote for more Democrats itll help?
Yeah there's nothing man can do but screw everybody, and that's exactly their plan just ask Klaus schwab, and the rest of his evil gang.
The fog shrouded bridge at first looks surreal! This city is beautiful with the fog 🌁
I live in the East Bay where there are many wine vines... I remember lots of fog here when I was younger, now it's rare to see. The vines are suffering as well.
I have lived in SF for about 30 years. It feels like thar climate is changing. There is less fog, heatwaves last many more days, and there are humid days which I don't remember there were in the early years even I first moved here.
Heat wave has always been for 2 weeks.....the fog hasn't changed at all.
@@obijuankenobi420 I have found that the hot days have gone from 3 to 4 days, and the fog is a less. But that is my experience.
@@GKP999 What part of the city ? The mission gets a lot of sunshine.
@@obijuankenobi420 The Mission is traditionally sunny and almost never foggy. I am not sure hownling have you lived in SF. But I am expressing my personal experience.
In the last 12 years, I noticed less fog in the City. I thought I was assuming something that people didn’t noticed.
People that fly around on private jets don’t get to lecture us about climate change.
Imagine how much fog water the golden gate bridge could be collecting. Interesting stuff.
Fog and drizzly misty weather is disappearing from Humboldt Bay too over the last 20 years. Noticable change
When i was young...
East san jose fog brought the smell of garlic, i would have my window wide open, and some mornings i would run down the street like " yaaay fog i cant see my hands!" and now, no, not so much
8 months later and we had a very foggy late spring and summer. Other parts of the country sweltering in over 100 degrees temps plus humidity and it's been wonderful here in SF 😊😊😊
Great report, thanks for putting it together!
Enough with the lies and gas lighting. Every climate prediction has been dead wrong for the last 70 years, give it up already.
56 years old fog was more abundant when I was a kid
Oh, Wow, I hadn't realized how important the F😗og is to our North Bay Climate and that the Fog is going away...Sad
I can’t believe Mark Twain didn’t get credit for that quote. They didn’t give him the credit he deserves for that quote.
That's because it is only an urban myth that he said it.
Same deal in LA, living there in the 70's, & 80's, there was a LOT more fog back then!!
That was SMOG and lead you were breathing.
We have to do something because California gets the most sun light per day so it’s going to get really dry
i wonder how steep the permits and city fees and taxes are going to be to install one of this in my backyard ??
So Monterey's fog actually does something more important than just keep the city annoyingly cold in the mornings.
I notice this year's ago and with the fog the redwoods will go to😬😥
SF is a great place minus the homeless and crime
Just wonder how much effect cutting down thousands of eucalyptus trees all across the Berkeley/Oakland hills had on fog/moisture collection and moisture levels all across the east bay?? And as a result the overall linked effect across the whole bay area. As someone who was on the hills nearly every day there was an extreme change from daily complete saturation where it looked and felt as if it had rained to being an arid dry powdery dead zone just waiting to erode and slide.
They weren’t native to California anyway.
Eucalyptus kills all the other plants around the trees
gotta make way for the most destructive species in natural history!
The fog isn’t going anywhere in our lifetime.
-brought to you by your friends in the oil industry.
@@drrecommended4850 Yeah, because there were all those cars out and about that ended the last ice age.
@@eddiet204 there were no humans around when the cataclysm that destroyed the dinosaurs occurred either, due to a meteorite impact. However, I’m sure you’re not suggesting that we simply do nothing should a similar meteor be heading our way, right?
@@eddiet204 From Congresswoman A.O.C........Wow! I didn't know the Flintstones had a gasoline powered prehistoric car!
@@SilentSamurai8 Here is my reply.......Cough,cough and Cough! Are you kidding? We have intercontinental ballistic missiles with an atomic bomb inside that can be redirected to the meteor launched by a submarine anywhere.
The world is clearly getting warmer and the water around the Golden gate bridge is it perfect example of it
I call fog, doom and gloom!
When the SF fog is rolling fast, it's truly magnificent. However, fog capturing devices are not like solar panels. Any fog that is captured on the west side of the Bay Area is literally less fog for the East Bay and less cooling for the hot inland areas.
They don't care.
@@NinjaBooKitty I know you're just trolling, but it's worth highlighting that most of the fog catchers probably do care. They just need to think things through. Good intentions are not sufficient.
@@DemPilafian No, I'm not trolling. I truly am constantly amazed and disappointed at how much attention and praise people get for doing so little. If they knew decades ago this was an issue, why didn't they act? We've known about rain catchment for years. How did that not translate in the "brilliant" minds of so called scientists? At this point, it doesn't even really matter. We're in the 6th extinction, and none of us are going to survive it. Check out the doc called "Living in the Time of Dying".
@@NinjaBooKitty In the high remote deserts of Chile, fog catchers make a ton of sense. Here in the SF Bay Area with a well developed water system and plumbing, the advantages probably do not outweigh the disadvantages. (and your "doc" is silly gibberish, trust me bro)
shows how much they know a fog is a low cloud
I have been in SF since 11-2015 its drastically gone down since then!
I grow up in sf .since the 80 and people cmplain about the fog now,but when i was a teenager you walk a couple steps and you don't see your own house so for me is normal enjoy because in the future we dont know what fog mean.
Fog has been here forever
I live in the valley and every winter since I moved here in the early 90’s there has been fog.
@@Aaron-or6ov real Hollywood used to be in Nile’s canyon with Charlie Chaplin. They moved to LA due to the fog. It’s been this way before we were born.
California & Baja Mex norte, Chile, and PORTUGAL have the same climates. Portugal has similar late summer fires, too.
They’ve been collecting fog in Peru for decades
Like in Lima? That place has fog.
No more Thule fog on the Altamont. It's been gone for about 15 years
They should bottle the fog and sell it as Fog water... I'm sure someone would buy it 😂
I’m an SF native and I hate the fog! 🤬
The fog is packing its bags and moving to the northwest we are getting more of it recently. My Redwood tree is living it up here.
Now we've got too much water too quickly without much prep.
Drought has nothing to do with disappearance of fog.
Capturing fog means somewhere else gets less fog.
You can't argue with the numbers.
Whoa crazy there is an artist in the city? I thought the tech colonizers outlawed creative expression unless it has to do with separating consumers from their greenbacks.
Fog, not groundwater or rain IS the water supply for all species of California's Redwoods.
Welp....its cool that the fog is still here and hasn't changed
Need to put them fog catchers on the golden gate.
FYI.....the London fog was based on air pollution. It stopped once they cleaned the air. So it's a bad comparison.
I call BS. I grew up in SF. We always had fog
The problem is when there's droughts these small hairy plants are going to die and create huge open areas to create heat islands and exponentially fight the fog
theres actually much foggier and colder places than san francisco along the norcal coast, even pacifica and half moon bay are much foggier and there right by sanfran
Eureka is even cooler and foggier than SF. It even gets cooler there in the summer than in SF. Eureka gets in the low 60s in the summer while SF gets in the mid to upper 60s in the summer months. Not to mention Eureka never gotten to be at least 90 agrees before while SF usually gets 1 or 2 days in the 90s every year. Also, I noticed Eureka is the foggiest have ever seen on the California coast. When I went, it was so foggy I didn’t even see the scenery or the ocean. Even San Francisco in the summer doesn’t get that foggy whenever I go there in the summer. Another place in the Bay Area that gets even foggier than SF is Point Reyes which is located north of SF. It’s one of the foggiest places in the country in which it gets on average 201 foggy days of the year. SF didn’t get that many foggy days. I do agree on Half Moon Bay on the fog. Most of the time I’m there, it gets foggy even in the fall which is after the foggy season.
@@laurajones1773 furthest north iv been is fort bragg and even then i can tell the Northcoast is way foggier and colder than san fran, i meant to say that sanfran is not considerably foggy because there are foggier areas surrounding it in the bayarea itself. Also many people dont realize the northcoast is foggier than sanfranscisco bay coast but also way rainier and has temperate rainforests from mendocino northward such as the crescent city redwoods area
I do agree the north coast gets cooler and foggier. I’ve been to Fort Bragg as well. I also went to Mendocino. I do agree that Fort Bragg is colder and foggier than SF. Same with Mendocino. Fortunately, I been there on nice days. I’ve been there as well as Mendocino on my 16th birthday. It was 71 degrees and clear. I’ve been there when it was colder and less clear like when I went there on the 4th of July. There’s an awesome botanical garden there. The Glass Beach is awesome too. I will visit those two places in the end of June. Hopefully, it will be clear. I know last week was windy there. Hopefully, it won’t be that windy there when I’m there.
Half Moon Bay gets way more fog than SF. It’s also much colder. I think it’s the coldest coastal region closer to where I live. It doesn’t have many clear days. It either gets foggy or cloudy. I eventually went on clear days though. One of those clear days was on a cold windy day. It’s a beautiful place, and I’ve been there many times, but the weather sucks though.
Fogetabout it! Now i miss foggy days.
blame all the damn pot smokers and the drug addicts in the streets!
This video needs more foghorn.
Residents want to help. They need to move out of a city where everything needs to be trucked in to sustain their lifestyle.
*I absolutely "hate" Fog.*
*I start to have a hissy-fit when my South San Jose*
*sees AM (Sky Level) Fog during Summers.*
*I need my daily warm Sunshine daily, or else.....* 🤪
To be fair, tomatoes can be dry farmed with no water with proper furrow techniques...
OMG!! Who the heck wants to live in fog! These people just don’t know anything else!
They will love the sunshine 😂
1951 was the year Barbara Eden won the Miss San Francisco beauty pageant. She was then named Barbata Huffman before her agent in Los Angeles changed her last name to Eden because she was as beautiful as the Garden of Eden.
FYI he's a great artist
What the fog!? 😂
I have no words🙄
Of course the planet is getting slightly warmer since we are coming out of an ice age.
Is this a story or a petition to young fools from old ones?
Fog keeps the air feeling clean and fresh. and the best natural air conditioning known to man
You never quit do you?
~ Fog Sucks ~ Without it it’s like 65* and Sunny. I think the mold has gotten to Some Peoples Brain....
God is in absolute and total control of the weather(.)
Really...knock it off.
My bad.
Oh no, 100 years from now... stop with this silliness.
Carl is Robin Williams with a vengeance
Keep pushing that propaganda Bay Area!
Easy on the fog horns in the video. We get it. 3 times was enough.
They should add another carbon tax and tax for everyone else.
just for ref.. the fog goes all the way to llos angeles
the key to climate change is change and it will always change back - always has.
Fog me!
Only rich people think of catching fog.
Will all this rain fill up the reservoir
Blame the Chinese for opening dozens of coal power plants
the only constant is change
It's impossible to assign a constant value of growth to something which keeps expanding and contracting on a daily basis without a constant variable. If you said the value of X which moves in a up or down direction every day is going to be 1 degree higher in 1 years time, you're not making a prediction based on science, you're ignoring the scientific process which says it's not possible to measure something without a constant starting point. To say that X, which is a random number, will be permanently 1 degree higher you need a Y measurement to be a constant value of lets say 5 degrees, If the value of Y never moves then you can say X will be 1 degree higher if Y moves up to the value of 6. Y = 6 + X = ?. The variable X = ?(random) represents the weather and Y does not exist in real life. Claiming that the weather will be permanently higher by a certain amount of degrees on average is a impossible claim to make. It's like saying that a roulette wheel will always roll red 5 times as a constant measurement. Their is no rule of nature that says the weather will always be 30 degrees and that, that 30 degrees never moves. Therefore no Y variable or constant measurement can be assigned. If god can't do it then you can't either.
But the redwoods love fog...
The sky is falling the sky is falling 🥜
12000 years ago where I sit in Ohio was covered with thousands of feet of Ice.
We have only recently exited the last Ice Age.
The next Ice Age (Glacial advancing) would occur in about 50,000 years.
Why would it NOT be getting warmer?
@@name3251 Holy crap are you one of these bible retards that think the Earth is 6k years old?
@@name3251 I've heard of you loonys. Natural science does not agree with your religious beliefs so yo create your own science...lol
I’ll take things that aren’t true for 500 Alex.
THIS IS SO DAMNED TRAGIC I CAN'T STAND IT!!! HERB CAEN IS ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE.
Ill vote for no fog
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