The new Powerwall 2.1 - built in hours, not months. Introducing the Victron LYNX Bus Bar System.
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- čas přidán 26. 09. 2022
- It took us more than 6 months to build the battery 2.0 and the PowerWall. And sometimes it almost felt like the project would never end, would never be finished!
Similar to the Seplos battery system, I want to show you an alternative to such long lasting projects, still DIY but not as hardcore as the battery shelf where we had to design and built everything from scratch.
I want to introduce the Victron LYNX bus bar system which we will use to build our new PowerWall 2.1. It is a great system which is actually not that expensive considering it has the same functionality as your battery shelf top compartment with all the DC distribution.
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The way those Victron components link together without cables is slick. Thanks for showing us.
Yeah, it's a great system I think. I had the components for a while but had all the other projects lining up so could not really work with them.
Wonderful commentary on why to buy Victon’s systems!! Thank you.
Thanks for the video, Andy. I will send this video to a mate installing a 10 KW system on his new 16 * 12 M shed. I like that Victron setup. Have a nice day.
I like it too. Had it for a while sitting here in the boxes. Now is the time to use it...
Only 2.4 Amps going in here on the Adelaide Plains at the moment.
I read an article this morning that Qld. has the highest % of rooftop panels in Australia.
I am now firmly convinced that you Qlders are soaking up all the sun before it can get to us.
I will have to run a cable from my place to yours just to get some input.
Loving your videos mate, keep it up.
Hahaha, yeah, we're soaking a lot of sun up here, that is true. I'll see if I can leave you some. Today it is raining again and cloudy, so you have your chance today 😊
Thank you Andy! Someone recently asked me about busbars and I didn't have a great answer. Now I do and it's available world wide.
Yes, it is and the more I use it, the more I like the design.
Jeez, Victron must love you: kaa-ching! 😆
Danke für den Tipp für den Lynx Power In, Ich habe ihn schon bestellt.
Very Nice. This will go a long way to getting the Average Joe to batteries. I also saw Seplos released another BMS that addresses a lot of your issues with it. Not all but a lot. Let's call it 1.1 Another great video Andy and Thanks!
Thank you. Yeah, Seplos has really listened and is addressing some of our concerns already. That is great and a big win for us (and them as well).
Bonsoir ANDY, hum j'aime aussi cette odeur de bricolage !, pas mal les différents boitier de victron, mais trop chère pour certain... aussi je préfère ta conception personnel de batterie et de ces bus barre. Merci du partage et impatient pour la suite 👍
Heya, yes the victron modules are great and easy to install
Nice video!
Thanks!
@AveRage Joe haha we can't let you take it man, ! Boom💥💥
YES💪
Gahhhhhh! A cliffhanger! What’s in the baaaaaaaahks?
Tomorrow morning!
YES ! More Blue Power !
Useful function for the programmable relais: switch on the active balancer 😉
For example... that would be a very easy task with such a relay.
Danke Andy. Mag dein „bombenfest „
You can have LEDs on the power inn too.
You need a board the size of the missing one, 4 LEDs, 4 resistors and some wiring... Run the cable from one end of the fuse, trough the resistor, trough the led, and back to the other end of the fuse.
If the fuse breaks, the power goes trough the led, but redused by the resistor...
Yep, thanks, that will work too.
You are during the right thing now. I also like the compact design from victron Lynx system, and I use it myself in my system. I only see benefits of using this. I also upgraded the Power In with additional fuses.
Do you use any switches to turn of loads and batteries? If so, what do you use?
@@OffGridGarageAustralia yes I use a blue sea switch on the positiv cable. It's like the one you have for your inverter. Can I sent you a picture of my installation some how?
B.B.Buuuuuut Uuuuuum........We Love you Andy!! You said we could Share.....Video Response COMING!!! 😆
We can share, brother. Absolutely. BUT, my PowerWall has a W not a w, so... that's unique!
This is exactly what I intend to use as it is a very nice and compact solution. The only problem I had was that it's usually nice to be able to disconnect all the batteries with one breaker, which didn't seem to be easy to do with the Victron busbar until ... I found what I think is a good solution! The Lynx Shunt has a place to put a fuse between the two sides of the bus but in fact this fuse is not very useful... So what you can do is connect two cables on each side of the fuse and connect them to a main battery breaker and voila! The only problem is that the Lynx shunt cover wasn't designed for this, so you may have to make an opening in the shunt cover or maybe the wires can be routed through the "distributor" or "power in" if there is enough space?
Yeah, I had a look at this solution, and it would be possible to modify the shunt to mount a breaker somehow. It gets messy quickly though. A 300A breaker for example is not small and it does only disconnect the positive bus bar. In many regulations it is necessary to disconnect both pos and neg of the battery. So, a breaker between the shunt and the Power In module would be feasible... but the installation gets larger and defeats the purpose.
Andy.. when you open the lid of the Lynx, those 4 holes you can add a nut and bolt to it giving you fused inputs .. #bendedbombenfest 2.0
did you not watch the same video we did?
Nice 2.1. On your lynx without the lights, put some led/resistor in parallel with the fuse. When the fuse blows the led will light. Drill a small hole in the cover.
Yeah, would be solution if one wants that feature.
That is phenomenally simple! ❤
I have started my solar journey, I spent the last few weeks watching every one of your videos, well you and Will Prouse, I like the detail you go into with examples and your trial and error, keep the videos coming, you have another fan on the opposite side of the globe. P.S. I am currently running my office PC and lights on a 600watt array with 12v 100ah lifepo4 battery and 1500 watt inverter, and an auto transfer switch :)
Nice work!
Thanks a lot for your feedback. Wow, you watched all of my videos, that's a lot. I didn't even watch all of them 😁
I'm using a similar setup for my computer but have to carry the battery back and forth between house and garage to swap it with one that was charged from solar. Saves me 1kWh/day.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Every bit counts Andy 👍
I do similar thing with my caravan battery. 😂😂😂
Could you uae just a power in and a shunt on the left side, and still get the same data?
You can invert the direction of the smart shunt by switching all the small wires in it from right side of the shunt/fuse to the left side and vice versa.
Can you?
@@OffGridGarageAustralia not officially supported, but it definitely works. Two are power supply to the board, three are for voltage (+/-) and current (actually: voltage across shunt) sensing, with one shared wire. Switching all around puts them at the places they are designed to be in, just on opposite sides relative to the shunt, turning the design, effectively, upside down.
Or should I say left side right? Whatever. It works.
@@svenmueller I'll give this a go, sounds good and easy. Thank you.
Arrrghh…. Waiting till tomorrow for unboxing 😮😢
Don't be so impatient 😁
Hello. one question. How did you set up the Shunt i the app or Cerbo GX? Mine is not appearing in the Cerbo GX so I cannot have access to the current in/out parameter
I have the shunt connected to the servo GX with their two terminators, and a touch display connected to the Cerbo GX
You could easily add your own indicator to your non-peter by adding a red LED (with anode to the positive bar) in series with a resistor (10KOhms/0,25W for 48V = 5 mA) in parallel to the fuse. It will light up, when a load ist connected and the fuse is blown. If you use two leds in anti-parallel connection, it will work for loads and sources, if you only have a single power source. With multiple sources, it will not work for the sources, only for loads, because the voltage difference between your sources will not be high enough to light up the LEDs.
Yes, that would work if want an indicator for the fuses. I found the PCB in the Distributor a bit over the top. It has a lot of chips for such a basic function.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Yes, the electronics is a bit over the top, but you need something to connect to the bus, a power supply and a dection that works with a broad range of voltages. I would be interested, if it can detect also the blown fuses, if it is used as a "fused power-in" (I believe, it doesn't). This would be much harder than with a power-out (VBat drops to 0 with a blown fuse with out), since you would need to detect very small voltage differences between two batteries (almost no drop between the bar and the disconnected power-in).
great info thank you Andy! so to use the Lynx system with your 2.0 battery bank - would you just connect the output BMS from each of the three 48v battery banks straight to the Lynx Input 1000?
Yes, if I would upgrade to a Lynx system, that would be the easiest method.
The Distri, the distri..... The Peter 😁
It's so much easier, right? 😂
Gut 👍😊 danke
There’s a mod you can do to the distributor that involves connecting a ground to one of the pins in the RJ11 port to make the LEDs work on the fuses without the bms controlling them. You might Google it.
Also I think those bars are tin plated copper bus bars not steel….
Yeah, sow this teak as well but the short cable is included so why not plug it in and have it activated. Unless you only use the Distributor alone for any reason...
@@OffGridGarageAustralia I thought you said you can’t use the electronics without the victron BMS? What I was suggesting was a way to still use the LEDs for fuse indicators even though you didn’t have the victron BMS. Or maybe I misunderstood. My wife tells me that it’s possible, so… 🤷🏻♂️😊
@@Shep5847 It is possible you just need to supply 5v to the correct pins in the RJ11 cable.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Yes actually you can connect the Lynx Shunt to the Lynx Distributor with the provided RJ10 to RJ10 cable. It will provide power to the distributor as well as transmit the Distributor information to the Cerbo GX
@@DrCoolZic no, the lynx Shunt VE.can is unable to provide the fuse information from the Distributors to the GX device. That had been confirmed in the Victron fortune. Or also show by (kind of) by the latest firmware of the Shunt being a year+ older than the release of the Lynx Distributors.
Yet another excellent and informative video. Thank you very much Andy. Can you tell me if the blue cases of any/all of the Lynx products can be re-attached "upside down" to support a DC bus that runs right to left? I appreciate some internal re-arrangement might be needed.
Yes you can. They are even provided with a sticker for the cover you can use in that case. You can also switch all small wires from one side to the other as well. That works and you have the benefit of nu dust falling in.
@@rikdehaas6398 Thanks Rick. That's great news.
Can anyone confirm whether the Lynx Shunt also be turned upside-down so the DC bus runs from battery on the right to load/MPPT solar charger feed in on the left? It looks like not reading the Victron documentation.
The only problem is the cable connections would be from the top then.
I had the sticker in the video but cut it out as I though not many people would use this option. There you go...
Andy, what about a resistor and a LED parallel to the fuse? Then you will have the optical failure notice.
Cheers
Marc
Yes, would work as well. Thank you.
I love the Victron Bus bar. I have been using this setup for about 6 months now and haven't had any issues. My only complaint is that you can't monitor the fuses with the "Lynx Shunt VE.Can" and the function requires the "Lynx Smart BMS". Since the VE Shunt can connect to the Lynx Distributor I am hoping it's a firmware upgrade in the future.
IIUC, the shunt VE.can simply doesn't have the electronics to talk to the distributors. Also I found a post in the victim forums that hinted at a new shunt that could talk to them. Still a pity that they haven't done this already after years of having the distributors.
Nice stuff
Have you looked at the Seplos JASSN Busbar? It is enclosed, includes breakers, and looks like the Seplos batteries.
I think it's only for Split Phase (US market).
Eine Frage an dich welche Sicherungen wirst du benutzen? Gibt von den Mega Fuses ja nicht so wirklich viel Auswahl in 48v Systemen oder sehe ich das falsch?
I wonder if you need a seperate shunt if using the Seplos BMS. The Seplos BMS have a shunt included, so why not use these? The sum of the both shunts from the both Seplos BMSes should be the same as the Victron shunt will measure, right?
We can use either the Seplos BMS as a shunt or the Victron Lynx Shunt. Both will not work at the same time. In the Victron system, you can nominate which of the two is your battery monitor.
Clever, I like it so much better than a classroom.
Thanks Dave. You can now sit down again 👨🏫😁
Would really be nice if there was a clean way to disconnect a battery using that Lynx distributor. That switch you mentioned adding to perform that function I don't think is rated for disconnecting a battery when under load whereas your Noark breakers are.
Yes, that is correct. The switch is not for emergency purposes but only for maintenance to turn off a battery. I'm sure it will still work under load as well. The Seplos batteries I want to connect won't supply more than 100A each at max power (it's rather 30-50A max under normal conditions).
The Noark would be the preferred safety switch for this purpose.
im using lynx system in my ute2.0
makes it so much easier👌
It's a great system. I think especially in vehicles it makes a lot of sense due to its compact size.
Sehr schön, der Hack 👍
Super tolles Video Andy. Ich liebe es Deine Videos zu schauen. Vor allem wie viel Spass Du an der Sache hast und wie viel Informationen die vermittelst. Danke dafür und mache bitte weiter so.
Thank you very much for your feedback!
There is some controversy even on the Victron Community forum if these bus bars should really be rated for 1000A without generating a lot of heat since the cross section of the bus bar is only 8mm by 30mm. Even Victron's 600A busbar is considerably thicker than this.
Yeah, I can understand the discussion. But 1000A is also a lot, right?! Even in a 12V system, it's a lot of power and probably OK for peak/surge power even it says constant 1kA somewhere.
Now for a question about fuses. Any concerns about using much-less-costly automotive fuses in these Lynx boxes? I am thinking 1 x 300A 80V DC in the shunt for the main positive feed from 2 x 150A combined Seplos 280Ah battery banks and 4 x 50A for the four feeds from each of my four Victron MPPT 48V 150/35 solar charge controllers)? regards to all from Northumberland
You can't use those automotive fuses. The important difference is the current interrupt capability. With LiFePO4 batteries you can get extremely high current from a short circuit and those automotive fuses would weld together and not actually cut the power.
@@davidb.5544 Indeed, the Lynx shunt takes a CNN fuse (2,500A interrupt rating? 5,000A?), and the Lynx Distributor/Peter takes MEGA fuses (interrupt rating looks to be in the range of 2,500A). Also the fuses within the Seplos battery packs (Zeeman ANMH, 2,000A interrupt rating, I think) are not optimal. I guess the combination of the Lynx system with MCCBs on the inputs and outputs would provide a good level of protection.
Thank you Max. I just realised that I never send my address to you 🤦♂️ I'll do this tonight...
With these fuses, it is important to use the right voltage to interrupt the arc if a fault occurs. So using 80V fuses seems to be correct.
As with the other comments, this is not optimal but still sufficient, I guess. I would rather use a T-Classe fuse here or even better a dual DC circuit breaker. Both have 20-25kA breaking capacity.
I wonder if there's any functionality difference between the smart bms and Lynx BMS...
Except the relay... not that I can see anything else... oh, it has 1000A, the smart shunt comes in two versions, 500A or 1000A.
Also, do you know if a T-Class fuse would fit well in the lynx Shunt?
Manual says CNN fuse, should have read that first...
I don't think they will fit. It would be great if they change the design to a T-Class fuse. That would be much safer to use then a CNN fuse.
the copper is softer so can be compressed
Any corrosion issue with the copper spring washer contact against steel bolts?
@@DavidHalko not unless very humid conditions
Oh this time a long promotional event for Victron Lynx system...not bad for sure but the price??? The tip with the additional screws was good, even if the "power-in" is still too expensive for me.
I recon it would have been cheaper than the DIY shelf I build with all the work and material I have used.
Andy… Any concern about steel coming into contact with the aluminum?
In regards to the aluminium sheet I put on these metal posts? No, absolutely no concern.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia - thank you Andy, this was exactly my question that you answered.
If by chance these new Victron toys was not available to you at the time that you actually designed the first power center, and built it, I think they took your ideas and made up the new equipment. And You should get some royalty for your inadvertently push to Victron to make this new equipment. Don't ya think.
They heard you, where is your slice of the pie?😃
They existed before that, hahaha. But it is still a slick design, I really like it.
straight relative to the Leaning tower of Piazza ?? :)
Not like that, hahaha!
Ich brech ab....wie passend ist das denn? Morgen bringt das Postmann das Lynx system, übermorgen kommen sie Multipluse und die Akkus 🤣👍 perfektes Timing
Hi, Andy - great video but two questions: why bother with Peter if you could sell it and get another Lynx PowerIn 1000 - just because it was on hand? Q2: what is the total cost of what you showed? I’m sure cheaper than doing a lot of work on top of materials and space is always worth something, too as is Mfgr warranty and testing of their item. We all like watching you do a lot of work while we sit about with beers, but that doesn’t mean it is always a good enough reason to make everything. We can watch you do more useful work, too. 😊
Thanks Tom, Whan I bought the devices a few months back, I didn't know the difference and just bought what is available to show it here on the channel. I would not bother with the Distributor anymore if I would buy it again. Total costs? Have a look at the link under the video or here on my website: off-grid-garage.com/battery-accessories/
I'm not sure which way is cheaper, DIY or Lynx. I wanted to show this here on the channel as an alternative.
Hi Andy do you think we can order this Saplos DIY Battery in South Africa
That would be question for them if they can ship so SA. Not sure...🤷♂️
@@OffGridGarageAustralia I will give them a try but have to be careful as our money 💰 is worth junk so it might not be cost worthy but on the other hand it might be very beneficial and cost saving
Hiya, Andy! I’m working on a battery project for our sailboat. Using reclaimed Tesla battery modules. Excited to use them, because they are made from high-quality Tesla spec cells. And they are taken from wrecked Tesla vehicles. Which would mean if we don’t use them, they would go into the dump. I’m a Tesla car owner like you. Why don’t you consider using Tesla modules for your power wall 2.1? SimpBMS talks to Tesla module slave balancing boards. And also integrates into the Victron Eco system.
Because those cells are inherently much more dangerous than LiFePO4 cells.
Not only more dangerous but also more expensive. Very hard to get down here in AU.
@Walther Stech they won’t go into a landfill if you resell them - lots of people are looking for good Tesla modules to buy. Use the money to go LFP because of fire risk especially on a boat! There is no magic sauce to Tesla vs. other Li-ion, none of which is good for a boat IMHO but good luck regardless.
@@tomkacandes8286 Tesla packs can sustain 250A charge / discharge (with cooling) per 5.3kWh module. My use case on the boat is a joke load to them. Don’t even get warm. Their magic is in the extremely hight specs cells are made to. They are very uniform cells. After multiple cycles without balancing (i know. Not ideal) all 444 cells (times 2 modules i use in series) are within 0.02V Not too shabby! Lithium on my boat is within my risk tolerance. As well as that of my insurance company. So we’re fine there. And Li-Ion are also 20-30% lighter then LFP. Which is a very important factor on a sailboat.
Leave Joe alone Andy, oh your right, I can use it as I am in sunny hot Australia too. Sorry Joe mate.
😂
You can but the LED lamp with a resistor between the + and -أنت شايفة انام تو
at least it won't fall off! lol
Hahaha, no, it won't!😂
Yes👍☀🔋⚡🔌💡
Lynx Shunt gives you the app too I thought
The Shunt itself yes, but the Distributor does not connect through the Shunt and gives you the status of the fuses online. That only works when the Distributor is connected to the Smart BMS. Don't know why that is, it should work with both...
Great stuff as always Andy. Have you considered trying a power wall from 135ah Chinese blade batteries? Would be interesting.
I just saw a tear down by Will Prowse of a CHINS so-called solid state LifePo4 battery and a puncture test he did on this Blade type cell, it resulted in a catastrophic runaway, worth a look, the next puncture test was on another LifePo4 pouch cell (Not the so-called solid state type) which did not vent very much at all given he drilled it through 9 times
@@evil17 yep. Saw that. I’m talking the BYD style Lithium Iron Phosphate blade. On AliExpress. Are they any good.
@@lennieadi ill havta check them out..i am always sus on any of those pouch type cells tho.
@@evil17 Hear you. Look well dodgy
I had a look at the blade batteries but the formfactor alone is not worth the hassle in my opinion. We would start another big DIY project just for housing them correctly.
Thanks
Thanks a lot David, I much appreciate your support!
Thanks Andy, Was hoping you would test the LYNX system, It makes it a lot cleaner, simpler and probably same price. But small conductors for 1000 amp rating ? (surge maybe)
Apparently it can handle 1kA constant current. Don't ask me to test it 😂
But I really like the Lynx system.
No.
Lynx distributor fuse lamps only work with lynx shunt connected
Andy the Lynx shunt 1000 is 605 dollars Australian each. Bit to much for me mate. It would cost 300 max to build one, that is with profit on it.
A 1000A shunt with electronics and enclosure for $300 would be great price.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Got here today Andy, happy days mate.
Like #277, another business meeting has ruined the premiere!!!
Ahhh, you are unleashing the Lynx!!! And Andy, you can add fuses to the Power In!
The relay on the shunt can actually only act based on the system battery voltage, not SoC. At least mine can't. Also there's no option for hot water/surplus load, it's intended to be used as a generator start/stop or you can also turn on the relay remotely.
Ah, right, I had mixed information as I had read about SOC trigger as well. Voltage seems to be OK, I guess. So it is the same relay function as in the MPPTs.
You can DIY the Victron Distributor lights with a cheap 5v power adapter.
Only need few leds and resistors (for 48v)
That makes only sense if you use it as a standalone device, right?
The short cable is included which makes all the lights work.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Yes, an option for those who dont want the added expense of a Lynx Shunt and Smart Shunt (little blue box in the middle and on the battery) or BMS (limited to Victron batteries).
"And how often do you blow your fuses?" - x_x
I didn't think about you! Of course 🤦♂️ Who else would test that function right away, right? 😂
@@OffGridGarageAustralia lol!
Sorry Andy, may be i loose something but the connections in your trick example how could they work ? The negative busbar it looks isolated.... and after connected to the shunt?
What do you mean exactly?
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Excuse me Andy, I didn't understand how you wanted to connect the wires with the fuses ... but tonight I got the lighting ... all right. Thank you -;)
Did you need postals mate, go to a scrap yard. I am all about saving money on my channel. Where did you buy your bus bar Andy, I have made some out of fire plumbing pipe so far, would like a better look. Just brought it the Lynx power in for 213 AUD thanks Andy.
I bought my busbar here in Brisbane from these guys: georgeweston.com.au/
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Mine arrived last Friday already, thank you.
Is the Lynx Distributor called Peter because he's blue? Blue Peter?
Pronouncing the word…
If too difficult, he defaults to “Peter”
he made this joke in a few videos so far.
Peter is a common name in written form,
Dating back 2000 years or so
Thanks for the historic background, Dave! 👍
Who is Blue Peter?
@@OffGridGarageAustralia - “Who is Blue Peter”
Ha ha ha…
I suspect because THIS PETER box was colored Blue…. Since there were other [colored] boxes in past videos… But only you know for certain, Andy!
We all love your sense of humor!!!
Keep up the good work! ❤️🙏🏼
Kein Schweinehund-Stromschlag in dieser Anlage
The New Peter Is Way Better: smart installation setup, the Victron way.
Yeah, it seems thought through and well designed.
🎉
For what they are victron gear seems very expensive, I guess you pay for the name stamped on the lid.
I built my 48 raw cell battery in hours not months too lol.
Hahaha, sure, but would this pass a safety test?
Some say that "powerwall" was used even before you coined it, but I think that's utter nonsense. ;-)
Rumors, nothing else. I was the FIRST! 😁
😂
I hope the package from Ed is a CerboGX........ 😂😂😂 And, .. Yes, if you figure any amount for your time, the Victron stuff is cost competitive/wins over/ ... is a better idea than the DIY alternatives...........................
It saves a lot of time for sure, but I really liked the challenge to building and designing such a battery shelf from scratch with a good outcome.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia And, when designing yourself, you can implement T-class fuses that the Victron products don't accommodate. I do like the CerboGX, with a few reservations.......
Victron bus bar is copper covered in tin, not stainless steel.
I meant the nuts and bolts. The bar is copper, yes.
Thanks for demystifying the victron busbar stuff. Whenever I go look at their advertisements it's always confusing what the heck they do and don't do. Their pictures and descriptions suck!
I found the same when I looked at this system. It is all very technical but breaking it down, it seems easy now...
CZcamsrs beefin. Someone call Keemstar. See you on Drama Alert
Victron is way to expensive for my budget
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It is expensive but the DIY way is not cheap either. I think it won't be much difference either way...
Lynx Distributor is priced ~USD500 here...
TOTALLY NOT WORTH IT!
Yep, I think the same.
Around 200 in the US . Worth it to me , the whole set up is so clean and time saving .
@@onthelake9554 It is! I'm really amazed how well this works
We wanna see you using Batrium bms
Why?
@@OffGridGarageAustralia we need your opinion about that product and also for the Rec bms
What are you thinking?
Everyone is using the term "DIY" and "powerwall" going as far back as 2010 on here... not just you... can't really complain about it unless you've trademarked the words for yourself, then at which point you can have a say about it.... otherwise great stuff as usual
He's just having a poke at Joe . 💥
@@onthelake9554 either way... just comes across rudely doing so.
@@BeezyKing99 Nah , not at all . Can't you tell he's joking . He owns a Tesla , he knows he didn't invent the word Powerwall .
@@onthelake9554 i'm deaf so I can't tell just from CC and body language alone.
@@BeezyKing99 Oh ok , sorry man , trust me he's just giving Average Joe a good poke . Do you watch AverageJoe 's channel ? If not , check him out .
those bus bars *ARE* copper - not stainless steel!
The screws are though. That's what I meant... the bars are tinned copper, yes.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia ok, got it! i misunderstood. you're right - why the heck did they include *COPPER* lock washers with SS hardware?? makes no sense.
Donating 77 Euro-Pesos as we speak - will lose 10% in value within the hour...
LMAO LOL 😆 no wonder they were more expensive.
More expensive?
@@OffGridGarageAustralia You have me on the cost of metal going up, I've watched the price solar mounts double, i was agreeing with you inflation, then you revealed you asked for 5mm thick metal and the chap carried it to the car so you didn't notice how much more heavy it was. LOL
I think the victron disease is spreading. The cost of this busbar with a plastic case, is not realistic. But victron === good, durp...
It is not more expensive than making your own busbar from copper and building a case for it.
Not possible this is stainless steel, stainless steel is very bad to conduct electricity
True but if made appropriately thicker than equivalent copper or aluminium busbars, it will be fine.
The bus bar is tinned copper but all fasteners are stainless, except these spring washers...
Buss bar looks like cheap Chinese manufacture Well at the price you mentioned someone is making a HEALTHY profit with $0.70 USD plascis housing and a day few screws Ana aluminum buss strap
It's heavy, so this is proper tinned copper bus bar they are using. The plastic seems decent as well and does not look as cheap as many other products I have seen.
The bus bar is solid copper, not Aluminium and it's made in India (at least the things sold in Europe).
Do they make a healthy profit? Sure. But the case is certainly more expensive than $0.70 (injection moulded, fiber reinforced).
You keep talking about your peter and you are going to get demonitized.
Because I'm saying Peter? How comes...?
@@OffGridGarageAustralia it is slang for something
@@chevrofreak I do hope ur wrong about that, or it would show just how ‘UnAustralian’ we are becoming. Cheers
Laber mal auf deutsch 😡 zu viel englisch sprachig
bidenflation... I'm trying to find aluminum, but he's shut down the last aluminum smelting plant in the US...
Take your politics somewhere else. This is about solar energy.
@@porter5976 it is reality, not politics
Distributor:
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noun
1.
an agent who supplies goods to stores and other businesses that sell to consumers.
"a wholesale liquor distributor"
2.
a device in a gasoline engine for passing electric current to each spark plug in turn.
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