@@Nivekl-fi3ik More or less though some get additional abilities from hosts Venom doesn't have. Or developed oddball abilities related to Venom's but not one it actually has. One of them for instance absorbed spider-man's webbing when shot with it and spat it back out. While Venom usually powered through being webbed, but lost the ability to generate webbing. Anouther lost the fast shapechageing but enhanced strength of the host more and was armored enough it resisted anti-tank missiles.
All symbiote have all the same abilities, but they all have certain skills in abilities, Venom IS seen doing the same abilities from time to time but he doesn't have many skills in these abilities, also, black symbiotes are classified as the weakest ones while Red ones are the strongest under the king, plus, it's Canon that offspring are stronger than the parent symbiote.
@@Me-ne1sr Excepting abilities gained from hosts. Several of the abilities gained from Spiderman alter or disappear in later generations. Or are replaced by abilities gained from new hosts.
@@Nivekl-fi3ik it’s not the mediocre in everything. It’s that he’s balanced. He’s a jack of all trades, a master of none but more than a master of one, and being more than a master of one this symbolizes, that by the end of Eddie’s training, Arc and venom gets a third movie. Hopefully they will adopt the storyline where he controls literally all the symbiotes in the Multiverse
Venom’s ability to withstand stronger symbiotes is a testament to its symbiotic bond with hosts like Eddie Brock, granting resilience and adaptability. Years of combat experience and strategic learning bolster its prowess, while host compatibility enhances its strength. Venom’s tenacity in the face of overwhelming odds solidifies its status as a formidable force in the symbiote realm.
It was stated that symbiotes are only as strong as their bond with the host. Clearly, Eddie and Venom had time to become an amazing team while the villians were very mentally unstable and even had a conflict with the symbiote: Cletus was getting angry at Carnage for hurting his GF.
@@munkhjinmunkhbayar5952cuz both carnage and Cassidy are psychos. As well its stayed offspring are more powerful than their “parents”. They get some upgrades so to speak.
@@munkhjinmunkhbayar5952 as others mentioned, offspring of symbiotes are always stronger that their parents. This was actually a big plot point of comics arc "Venom vs Carnage" where Carnage gave birth to Toxin who was destined to be so damn strong that Venom and Carnage decided to team up against him despite the hate for each other, but they still lost. So both are true. Carnage is strong because of his biology and Venom is strong because of his bond with Eddie, but I would also add that Carnage often behaves like a mindless bloodthirsty beast who kills everything in sight while Venom is very intelligent and tactical because of his experience from their origin planet and a potent selection of hosts to learn from (at least in comics)
Jack of trades, master of none but sometimes better than a master of one. While being a generalist symbiote he can use tactics to win with his experience and intelligence
it is not all about symbiote, it is also about host of it. if you remember riot said "your host is strong but not enough for me". eddie is physically strong that is why riot said that
That’s actually a normal thing in the comics. The Symbiote offspring are a lot stronger then their parent. Of course Sony ignored that Riot was an offspring of Venom but the point still stands.
Venom is the most basic of all the symbiotes when all the others are either stronger or have better abilities. Yet Venom always finds a way to win. IMO that’s cool af
In the movie it’s shown that Cletus and carnage were not symbiotic, I think the reason Carnage is red is because Cletus got the symbiote from Brock’s blood
@@evertsorto3093its a blood bond, a way stronger bond than venom, eddie and venom use “we” to talk about themselves, but cletus and carnage is one, so they use “i” instead
If anyone wants to know its because of their bond, not literally their friendship but what the symbiote is bonded to, carnage is bonded to blood, while venom is bonded to nerves, idk what riots bonded to but thats a quick short explaination
The younger the generation, the stronger the symbiote. Venom is stronger despite being an older generation symbiote because his bond with his host is perfect
In the Comics, the Life Symbiotes (Riot, Lasher, Phage, Agony, and Scream) were Venom's offspring, but were weaker than Venom because they didn't have hosts for a long time While Carnage was stronger bc he got a host quickly, and Symbiote Offsprings are always stronger than their parents, assuming they don't get weakened by not having a host for a long time But the movies aren't a perfect replica of the comics, so it works out either way
You don't have to be stronger than your opponent to beat him in a fight, just outsmart him to the point that his defences are down and then finish him off
Venom is a good guy. But most see him as a villain. He is a hero that protects good people from bullies and villains. He doesn't hurt anyone that is good. Whoever did Venom voice did a great job & the writing for this story was well done. ❤
For those who don't know the red ones are deadly ASF because they have a "blood bond" with the host rather than venom being basically a suit carnage on the other hand is deadly because he's not a suit he's a blood bonded soulmate with the host basically venom and and Eddie are a "we" being venom AND Eddie while carnage and his host are a "me" which is carnage and his host as one person and that my friends is why the red symbiotes are scary to him because they're crazy strong because of the absolute perfect blood bond they have with the host
No with riot he was just increadably lucky and had an instane plot armor and with carnige he won because carnige and his host did not fit but venom and Eddie Are almost a perfect fit. Also btw i’m a big fan of the venom movies i just wanted you to know.
Its also because Venom morphs with neurons, therefor he is much closer to his human. Carnage and Cassidy argued a lot and their bond wasnt as strong. Thats because Carnage morphs with red blood cells. Thats why he could grow larger and make weapons so easily.
I think venom said that because he has the least in his arsenal, if you remember he said riot has a lot of weapons in his arsenal. And it’s evident that carnage also has a lot whereas venom couldn’t make anything besides a shield
he picked this trait up from fighting alongside peter. think about it each time peter encounters a villain (especially in the videogames) he has to find the specific weakness to defeat his opponent
Venom only got cracked after he bonded with Spiderman. Since he didn't managed to do this on these movies, i think it's fair to call him weaker than the others, bc peter channels a lot of fight tech and street cred to him.
Venom also has perfect symbiosis with his human host, unlike Kleetus and Carnage who seemed to be at war with each other during the final fight, Carnage pretty much suppressed Kleetus so that Carnage could focus on the battle instead of his girlfriend, meanwhile Venom and Eddie both worked together and had the same goal. As for Riot and Mr.Rich(forgot his name), they did work together but it was pretty much just Riot carrying the entire time, he even won for a bit. Venom and Eddie ended up relying on somebody else's assistance to weaken and outsmart Riot
The other symbiotes seem to depend on their power too much, venom doesn’t have the kind of power they do, so he has to rely on smarts rather than pure brute strength, highly contrary to the other symbiotes, and both seem to have gotten too cocky (riot and carnage) with their abilities, hence why they lost
Its because the host and the symbioth have to be working togheter as great aswell. Plus its a movie about Venom so he officially is goin to win every battle.
i think he meant “weakest” as him not having a variety of abilities like them. i mean they could produce their own lethal weaponry while he in the first movie could barely make a shield
Venom dodging child support
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Darn right he is
Venom really is black
Bro I was goingnto write that 😂😂
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In comic lore the Venom symbiote is a generalist while all his 'offspring' are specialized to do something. This comes with trade offs.
So basically the children are good a one specific thing and venom is mediocre and everything?
@@Nivekl-fi3ik More or less though some get additional abilities from hosts Venom doesn't have. Or developed oddball abilities related to Venom's but not one it actually has. One of them for instance absorbed spider-man's webbing when shot with it and spat it back out. While Venom usually powered through being webbed, but lost the ability to generate webbing. Anouther lost the fast shapechageing but enhanced strength of the host more and was armored enough it resisted anti-tank missiles.
All symbiote have all the same abilities, but they all have certain skills in abilities, Venom IS seen doing the same abilities from time to time but he doesn't have many skills in these abilities, also, black symbiotes are classified as the weakest ones while Red ones are the strongest under the king, plus, it's Canon that offspring are stronger than the parent symbiote.
@@Me-ne1sr Excepting abilities gained from hosts. Several of the abilities gained from Spiderman alter or disappear in later generations. Or are replaced by abilities gained from new hosts.
@@Nivekl-fi3ik it’s not the mediocre in everything. It’s that he’s balanced. He’s a jack of all trades, a master of none but more than a master of one, and being more than a master of one this symbolizes, that by the end of Eddie’s training, Arc and venom gets a third movie. Hopefully they will adopt the storyline where he controls literally all the symbiotes in the Multiverse
"Red means its stronger" -some random edf infantry
Okky
"Red means it's faster" - some random orc in 40k
Red are elites - Starcraft zerg
for mars.
"Red is Sith" - some Jedi
Bro did not want to pay child support 💀
Ya stole my joke
@@EmmaRobiinsonnuh uh
@@Crowned_Child i have more likes and I posted mine a week before them
Well, seems he is black after all...
@@EmmaRobiinson The jokes been around for a couple years now tho...
Venom’s ability to withstand stronger symbiotes is a testament to its symbiotic bond with hosts like Eddie Brock, granting resilience and adaptability. Years of combat experience and strategic learning bolster its prowess, while host compatibility enhances its strength. Venom’s tenacity in the face of overwhelming odds solidifies its status as a formidable force in the symbiote realm.
This shit is so clearly AI generated it isn't even funny dude, Jesus Christ. You didn't even change ONE word?
Bro is showing how Corporate employees discusss their favourites
I don’t understand what you meant there but I agree with you
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It was stated that symbiotes are only as strong as their bond with the host.
Clearly, Eddie and Venom had time to become an amazing team while the villians were very mentally unstable and even had a conflict with the symbiote: Cletus was getting angry at Carnage for hurting his GF.
If so why is Carnage stronger than Venom? These two contradict each other if what you say is true, no?
@@munkhjinmunkhbayar5952not at all. any symbiote offspring are bound to be stronger than their parent. look up venom’s family tree and power scales.
@@munkhjinmunkhbayar5952cuz both carnage and Cassidy are psychos. As well its stayed offspring are more powerful than their “parents”. They get some upgrades so to speak.
Actually his GF with ultra sounds was hurting carnage so he said no more ultra sounds or kim jung un slap👋
@@munkhjinmunkhbayar5952 as others mentioned, offspring of symbiotes are always stronger that their parents. This was actually a big plot point of comics arc "Venom vs Carnage" where Carnage gave birth to Toxin who was destined to be so damn strong that Venom and Carnage decided to team up against him despite the hate for each other, but they still lost.
So both are true. Carnage is strong because of his biology and Venom is strong because of his bond with Eddie, but I would also add that Carnage often behaves like a mindless bloodthirsty beast who kills everything in sight while Venom is very intelligent and tactical because of his experience from their origin planet and a potent selection of hosts to learn from (at least in comics)
Jack of trades, master of none but sometimes better than a master of one. While being a generalist symbiote he can use tactics to win with his experience and intelligence
It's actually Jack of all trades master of none but often times better than a master of one
Venom has survived where other simbotes died.
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i like the “you father” “oh sh*t”
That line was cringey. 😂
@@JunkyardGod your cringe bro
@@JunkyardGod😭🙏give your mom her phone back lil bro
@@Silenced_bomb give me your mom's instead kiddo
@Silenced_bomb tell your mom to give me hers kiddo
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it is not all about symbiote, it is also about host of it. if you remember riot said "your host is strong but not enough for me". eddie is physically strong that is why riot said that
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Smartness is knowing your weakness
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Venom didn’t say he was the weakest, just that he was a loser among his own kind
That’s actually a normal thing in the comics. The Symbiote offspring are a lot stronger then their parent. Of course Sony ignored that Riot was an offspring of Venom but the point still stands.
Okky
Venom is the most basic of all the symbiotes when all the others are either stronger or have better abilities. Yet Venom always finds a way to win. IMO that’s cool af
toji must have teached venom how to avoid child support💀💀
Carnage and his host Cletus was a perfect fit that's why he was red and he embraced the Carnage
In the movie it’s shown that Cletus and carnage were not symbiotic, I think the reason Carnage is red is because Cletus got the symbiote from Brock’s blood
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@@evertsorto3093its a blood bond, a way stronger bond than venom, eddie and venom use “we” to talk about themselves, but cletus and carnage is one, so they use “i” instead
Maybe in the comics sure but in let there be carnage it showed they weren't as compatible as Eddie and Venom
Venom is Batman in Symbiot World
Dude you just gave the the best idea what if there was a movie where batman was the host of venom that would be unstoppable
@@soggywater7108That’s DC and Marvel tho 😂
@@soggywater7108it’s happened before
Venom took work smarter not harder to another level
If anyone wants to know its because of their bond, not literally their friendship but what the symbiote is bonded to, carnage is bonded to blood, while venom is bonded to nerves, idk what riots bonded to but thats a quick short explaination
Because Ryan and Carnage actually things on with their fists instead of their brains but venom outsmarted both of them fire And sound
The younger the generation, the stronger the symbiote. Venom is stronger despite being an older generation symbiote because his bond with his host is perfect
Bro I love Venom he is literally my favourite anti-hero its just it would be nice if he can stop eating heads of human beings
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I like that part though that's one of the main trait what makes him venom
If you can’t be stronger, be smarter.
Stronger + Smartest = Op
@@sherwinpugalesjr1742 what is op?
@@Gamex-Frontiers over powered
Strength doesn’t always equal success in a fight. However using your brain instead of your brawn will most win most fights.
In the Comics, the Life Symbiotes (Riot, Lasher, Phage, Agony, and Scream) were Venom's offspring, but were weaker than Venom because they didn't have hosts for a long time
While Carnage was stronger bc he got a host quickly, and Symbiote Offsprings are always stronger than their parents, assuming they don't get weakened by not having a host for a long time
But the movies aren't a perfect replica of the comics, so it works out either way
"The Power of Friendship" Makes Venom the Strongest Symbiote
It also shows the mental instability of being in a riot or carnage. Not physically but metaphorically.
You don't have to be stronger than your opponent to beat him in a fight, just outsmart him to the point that his defences are down and then finish him off
Bro was scared to pay child support so he vanished 🤣🤣
Spider man vs venom gonna be sick asf
Maybe symbiotes get smartness from their host
May be 🤔
Nah venom survived many years
@@BigdLittled-ps5zn maybe out of fear
Venom is a good guy. But most see him as a villain. He is a hero that protects good people from bullies and villains. He doesn't hurt anyone that is good. Whoever did Venom voice did a great job & the writing for this story was well done. ❤
Hes an anti hero but a villain in the tobey maguire universe
Well, kinda because he first introduction into comics is as a villain for spiderman 😂
The phrase "work smarter, not harder" fits venom so well
No man, Venom has plot armor too 🤣
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I remember that Eddie said that Carnage's bond wasnt as strong while Venom and Eddie were perfect for eachother which they used to their advantage
"Work smarter, not harder."
For those who don't know the red ones are deadly ASF because they have a "blood bond" with the host rather than venom being basically a suit carnage on the other hand is deadly because he's not a suit he's a blood bonded soulmate with the host basically venom and and Eddie are a "we" being venom AND Eddie while carnage and his host are a "me" which is carnage and his host as one person and that my friends is why the red symbiotes are scary to him because they're crazy strong because of the absolute perfect blood bond they have with the host
Ahhhh...
How i wish their was more to venom and eddie's story
Sometimes it pays to be the smartest one in the room.
No with riot he was just increadably lucky and had an instane plot armor and with carnige he won because carnige and his host did not fit but venom and Eddie Are almost a perfect fit. Also btw i’m a big fan of the venom movies i just wanted you to know.
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Venom has a better bond with his host then the others.
Its also because Venom morphs with neurons, therefor he is much closer to his human. Carnage and Cassidy argued a lot and their bond wasnt as strong. Thats because Carnage morphs with red blood cells. Thats why he could grow larger and make weapons so easily.
Venom got that plot Armor 😂
The most realistic "Oh, shit!" I have ever heard.
That line read is priceless, "THIS IS MUCH WORSE THAN I THOUGHT. THAT. IS A RED ONE.", you can hear the pussification lol
If you actually watched these movies you'll realise he's able to kick their ass cuz he has a string bond with his host 😂
Venom running away from child support 💀
In these battles winning automatically makes you the strongest.
You father, OH SHI
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He doesn’t want to pay child support.
Moral of the story: "it's not about wi strength the smarter person always wins" -wise man
Bro the opposite of PS1 Venom💀
SURF THE WEB SURF THE WEB
Bro really said he'll naw
Okk
Its also depended on how strong the bond between the symbiote and the host is.
Venom is actually the strongest for acknowledging he is weak. And admitting he was scared.
Venom also has the sams abilities as carnage and other symbiotes but chooses not to use them or learn them
Venoms fight iq is on another level. David vs goliath everytime..
Venom wont be paying child support 😅😂
Venom have Intelligence as Power
Man i watched venom and it was so good
I think venom said that because he has the least in his arsenal, if you remember he said riot has a lot of weapons in his arsenal. And it’s evident that carnage also has a lot whereas venom couldn’t make anything besides a shield
he picked this trait up from fighting alongside peter. think about it each time peter encounters a villain (especially in the videogames) he has to find the specific weakness to defeat his opponent
Both victims Venom 2007 🗿
Venom only got cracked after he bonded with Spiderman. Since he didn't managed to do this on these movies, i think it's fair to call him weaker than the others, bc peter channels a lot of fight tech and street cred to him.
It's like a pro fighting a noob with op items
Venom has been awesome for years. It doesn’t matter if he’s the weakest he always comes out on top.
Anti-venom in the corner laughing maniacly because he is so strong
Not all battles are won by strength but also by intelligence. 😇
Yes
Venom also has perfect symbiosis with his human host, unlike Kleetus and Carnage who seemed to be at war with each other during the final fight, Carnage pretty much suppressed Kleetus so that Carnage could focus on the battle instead of his girlfriend, meanwhile Venom and Eddie both worked together and had the same goal.
As for Riot and Mr.Rich(forgot his name), they did work together but it was pretty much just Riot carrying the entire time, he even won for a bit. Venom and Eddie ended up relying on somebody else's assistance to weaken and outsmart Riot
He really is like the peter parker of the symbiotes
Venom is one definition of work smarter not harder
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Work smarter
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I absolutely love Carnage. He is perfectly sadistic and I'm actually a little sad that he's gone
Also venom and eddy are a better or a perfect match for each other
If he didnt win, we wouldnt have seen his movies dying at the end 😂
The mind is a powerful weapon of choice
I think its more about the symbiot and host connection that made venom win despite the odds
The other symbiotes seem to depend on their power too much, venom doesn’t have the kind of power they do, so he has to rely on smarts rather than pure brute strength, highly contrary to the other symbiotes, and both seem to have gotten too cocky (riot and carnage) with their abilities, hence why they lost
Venom got modern brain
Carnage & Riot with caveman brain
Its because the host and the symbioth have to be working togheter as great aswell. Plus its a movie about Venom so he officially is goin to win every battle.
Physical strength means nothing, but mental strength means everything.
He is weaker because Eddie doesn't feed him properly
Riot: Strength, Power, Damage
Carnage: Savagery, Overpower
Venom: Smarts, Outsmarting
Turning Venom from the scourge of an entire planet into an interspecies nerd. Quite the switch.
They had the stronger symbiotes, but Venom had the stronger Host.
Only venom confronts his child By not going out to get milk😅😂
Venom has a better carrier and they suit perfectly. That made this couple the best one.
Venom be like I'm not paying for child support
Venom had his experience w Spidey so he took on some of Pete’s Battle IQ permanently
Im pretty sure the red one means he is bonded with the blood cells fully. Thats why carnage cant really be seperated easily
i think he meant “weakest” as him not having a variety of abilities like them. i mean they could produce their own lethal weaponry while he in the first movie could barely make a shield
Red is wrath, sliver is brute strength, and black means a perfect balance between strangth, wrath, and intelligence.
That’s where the “brains over bronze” saying comes from
person who knows how to battle is weak but the person who knows "when" to fight wont lose a single fight
Wow never knew venom was a father XD man was like nope have fun im not paying child support
but venom's intelligence helped him come out on top 💀
he is not only the smartest but also the funniest
Venom became Toji
This reminds me of Superman. Who is weak, but when he came to earth he became very strong😅
Bro he grows wings in the comics and other stuff
Venom is older than all of his children but they are stronger because they have more potential
This is because venom is connected to Eddie via nervous system which allowed venom to use both there brains. 2 heads is better than one