Subaru BRZ 2022 review | still the best RWD driver’s coupe? | Chasing Cars
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- We test the new 2022 Subaru BRZ manual and see if this is a great coupe to buy.
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The second-generation Subaru BRZ uses a new 2.4-litre naturally aspirated petrol engine and is available with a six-speed manual as tested here, or an optional six-speed automatic.
It will be joined later by a new Toyota GR86 twin but the Subaru is the first of the pair to be released here in Australia. The Coupe S costs $40,190 before on-road costs in manual.
In today’s episode of Chasing Cars, deputy editor Nathan Ponchard considers whether the new 2022 BRZ is worth your money.
Key rivals to this car include the GR86, the Hyundai i20 N, Fiesta ST, i30 N and a mix of other hot hatches and coupes.
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A great review…Having owned the original, I was lucky enough to get a 2022 Coupe S manual and even better I have already taken delivery of it. It is an amazing car and so much better than the last generation. There is nothing close to it for the money. If you want Nappa leather and a Burmeister sound system, buy something else. If you want an affordable and hugely fun car it is a slam dunk…
Half your luck. Mine is still 2+ months down the track
I've watched heaps of stuff about this car, and this was still a fresh take. Kudos!
Excellent Review. I am slowly becoming a huge fan of your work Ponch. Great Stuff. Looks like your the perfect guy to look up for reviews on little honest performance cars. i20N and now this BRZ. Excellent work.
Half your luck. Mine is still 2+ months down the track
Lucky me. I'm one of the 500. Still looking at 2 months. Did test drive an auto a few weeks ago. Serious fun.
Absolutely brilliant review Ponch - I love this car and it makes me so happy it exists and drives so nicely - nostalgia for my mother’s 71 Celica in similar colour blue - oh rear drive coupes maybe time to convert from my RS265....which I love still after 7 years with 100% reliability and 95k of fun....oh no first car crush of ‘22 🤪
WOULD make me happy if there were any around to even fondle then test drive....there is like none here in California....hey wtf you guys down there get FIVE YEAR unlimited warranty???? IDK what subaru does here but I suspect its like Mazda 36k/36month which sucks compared to 60month unlimited!
Nice review of a deliciously tempting car. Want one.
Oh, and thanks Subaru (again) for including a full size spare wheel. 👍🏁
Thanks for watching.
Full size spare wheel.....How about 4 dull size spare wheels!!!!!
Excellent review guys!
Nice to see someone reviewing the manual version. Can't wait to get mine in about a week and a half finally!
Fantastic review Nathan , Chasing cars have an excellent team of reviewers and video editing 👌👌👌
Funfact, this blue is closer to the original World Rally car blue and is one of the best Subaru colours.
So...no one cares (unless you are a WRC Subyphile!). Blue is the most popular car for an enthusiasts sports car anyway mate..
@@Mexxx65 - he's referring to Sonic Blue Mica that graced the 22B Impreza WRX STI.
I am thinkin the same thing too. And this sapphire blue also matches the dark blue subaru color on the logo actually. The current WR blue is so much lighter.
More of an opinion than a fact.
Great review Ponch. Nothing wrong with sounding like a rotary mate 😁
I enjoyed watching the Video Review
You watched the whole 20 minute video within it coming out for a few seconds!?!
Cant wait for mine coming in less than 2 weeks!! 😅😎
I own a 2023 BRZ and I love it!!!
That's a car I'd love to buy. Thanks for a great review.
Definitely better looking than the previous one!
Very true. Mature, sophisticated design.
"If you want to breed", haha
lol “if you want to breed it doesn’t have to be boring” - this is the best thing I have ever heard in a car review
Yep
I'm torn between that deep metallic blue and the magnetite gray color. I'll have to flip a coin here soon when I place the order! Can't wait. The Subaru order portal is currently shut down and not accepting new orders - which is the only way you can get MSRP is by ordering one from the factory.
Get the sapphire blue one, mate. Then nano-coat it. You will not be disappointed. And if you can live with low ground clearance, the original Subaru STI parts are fantastic too. Beware of high-angled parking ramps and sleeping policemen though.
Took one for a test drive last week. Had flappy paddles, instead of a real gearbox. It is a pretty car. Goes like stick. I reckon my VK Brock would need serious attention to detail to out-accelerate or -corner it. Especially as the VK didn't have traction control
Picked up mine on 1/10/22
WR blue S manual.
Absolutely love it!
With the low geared rear end and the
torque of the 2.4L it is very lazy to drive around town.
I'm looking forward to getting some miles on it to
stretch the motors legs a bit.
Great review, looking forward to seeing how the GR86 offering Toyota ends up bringing us down here will compare
Subaru hasn't paid their interior designers for years I can remember.
I think the audio is VG. BUT you need high quality source and VG USB C cable. cheers.
Ventilated seat would be better than heated -this is Australia
I would never use heated seats in Adelaide ventilated yes my back was drenched today in my broken ac car
Some parts of Australia, like Canberra, are not tropical. I will relish my heated seats throughout winter.
@@peterg2345 Only part of NT is tropical. Australia is not a tropical country.
I am from Indonesia, and I prefer ventilated seats as well, for obvious reason..😅😅😅
Got my WR Blue 6MT a couple of months ago. Still the best colour imo. Serious fun. Will be doing Paddys River Road sometime in the next week. Did Weston Creek to Urriara Village and back the day I got it. 15l/100km for that. Generally under 10l/100km around town, driving to suit my age.
Has your fuel economy increased over time?
Which is the better driver's car the I20N, Fiesta ST (mk8) or the BRZ/GR86?
Comparison coming up next week :)
@@chasingcars Cool.
@@chasingcars Fantastic. I've got the Fiesta, but loving this BRZ. Looking forward the comparo.
BRZ/86 duhh
@@dougiequick1 The I20 was built with track use in mind (hence the warranty) which the BRZ/GR86 wasn't and the Fiesta ST is one on the best hot hatches of the last decade. 'duhh" doesn't answer the question pindick.
Great review. Anybody who's owned a non turbo Subaru gets your "too many cigarettes" sluggish power delivery. Would have loved this motor in a Liberty I owned many moons ago.
The tail lights look a little bit Mitsubishi FTO like. I wouldn't hold it against it though.
Very true!
Opel Insignia rear end (almost).
They look nicer than my ND MX5's tail lights thats for sure! That is what I thinking of getting rid of in favor of brz86...biggest drawbacks are #1 there is no active BRZ86 drivers club in my area whereas Miata enjoys great active club ( like 30 cars or so per run!) with many runs through awesome West Coast routes hauling a$$!!! (radio support with lead and sweep cars...never any citations....so far lol) Then #2 my wife LOVES top down driving roadster and I can already hear her bitch if I try to replace the ND with a hard top....but personally I LOVE the idea of MORE power! The Miata IS quite a bit lighter but still 180ish hp pales in comparison
I’ve owned one the last 18 months & I don’t know why these are flying off lots. If you love light weight true sports car this is (nearly) perfect. Exhaust & sub woofer was it any other changes are optional. Just go get one
Great Review! How did you find the seat comfort in reference to the lack of adjustable lumbar support?
Looks stunning
50% stronger?! Now that is an improvement I can be interested with especialy when I kept hearing of '1mm here, 2mm there' and was kind of getting disheartened at Subaru for fooling my ears. 50% torsional strength is good!
Yeah so why not offer a roadster too! Rigidity is one drawback to chopping the roof off and may be why they never did before?But now? With it being so strong underneath? Seems like they COULD do a roadster! Or at least a Targa roof?
@@dougiequick1 This is the last of the 'make-up' version, thus cost and time?
Besides convertable cars are not as popular as they were a decade or two ago and targa tops are almost dead, aren't they?
Now we need a turbo sti version! That would be bloody incredible!
Aint gonna happen on account of this being a shared platform with Toyota and Toyota not about to let the BRZ price point car be superior their BMW Supra they get double for....Turbo with an 8spd DCT bRZ86 could arguably be a superior sports car for much less money...I would be drooling
You make it seem having a full sized spare is a bad thing.
It is a bad thing if you pay for road service anyway...first thing I would do is yank it out to save weight and add storage....idk maybe if I took a long road trip I could feel better having the extra wheel but for me would be rare or never....I have a wonderful compact SUV for road trips
I'm about to order this car, same spec but can't decide on the colour.
I thought the Sapphire looked ok in this clip but after seeing an Outback
in it, I'm not too sure.
I notice in some shots the front clip looks different to the bonnet in some light/angles.
I test drove WR blue auto, like the colour, common as dirt though.
Better make up my mind if I want to get it before Xmas.
I really want this car!
Spoiler Alert - I had the opportunity recently to buy a new BRZ/86. I had owned an MX-5 ND convertible previously. Test drove 86/BRZ and the road noise was a deal breaker. MX -5 RF with roof up had better NVH than both cars. Then, add open top motoring and in my opinion better handling - + power to weight flexibility - I bought a new MX5 RF. We're all different - but for me - the MX-5 delivers a car ownership experience for the price point second to none. Its a cracking bit of kit for your hard earned $'s. If you need a bigger car ,buy the boat from Toyota/Subaru.
Except that MX5 is seriously cramped and totally no luggage space or practicality … great on a sunny weekend in the twisty bits though! Sat in the MX5, drove the BRZ and now waiting for it to be made.
Except that MX5 is seriously cramped and totally no luggage space or practicality … great on a sunny weekend in the twisty bits though! Sat in the MX5, drove the BRZ and now waiting for it to be made.
In the states you have to fold the mirrors by getting out of the car. There’s no button for it lol
Computer nerds don't appreciate a good engine note.
Great review . This one is the limited model and actually has an 8 speaker stereo. Not that it makes much difference . It’s pretty rubbish
The back reminds me of genesis coupe and Aston Martin.
car of the year
I know where to drive my car now
Great review Poncho shouldn't it be "Toyota" says 💥
Did you mention what type of automatic will be offered? Torque converter, DCT or CVT?
Torque converter 6 speed.
@@chasingcars thanks mate. Nice review by the way 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I hear its a pretty good TC. But I have big reservations with it over the long term.
Price point vehicles are never gonna get anything top shelf...would sure be nice to have DCT as an option....but hardly anyone would pop for it so would not be worth the engineering...plus the marketing prlcks would whine if the price point car started to be better than the BMW Supra costing double
Can you put it up against the Ford Fiesta ST/ i20N? It’d be an interesting comparison for the most fun to drive affordable cars!
A RWD against FWD? Where is the comparison? Totally diffent animals.
Pity there will be no Fiesta ST next year. Such a fun car
Smoking cigarette reference, porn stache, this channel has it all...
Thank you
Full sized spare tyre...... Well that ticks a very big box for me..... if I was in the market..
Is the BRZ still a shared platform with the 86?
Yeah, but they have completely different rear suspension setup now. BRZ goes for neutral handling, 86 for oversteer.
The fake engine sound generator is horrendous :/
You can disable it pretty easily, just take off some plastic trim on the passenger side and unplug it. I'd keep it on just for the hell of it until i got an exhaust, then disable it after
@@Blight-fp3vt yeah nah. The sound has no resemblance to the boxer engine. A very poor attempt compared to the more sophisticated fakery in VWs for example. They should have stuck with the LFA style induction tube.
@@Blight-fp3vt audio engineer here (happy to prove it) and owner of a GT86 with an UEL header. I’ve listened to many GR86 sound clips, and there’s nothing organic or natural sounding about the sound being produced by the speaker. It’s a synthetic algorithm that matches the revs, not a microphone or piezo sensor that’s being amplified.
@@Blight-fp3vt VW were called out for the very same claim with the Soundaktor (tho their implementation is much more sophisticated). Regardless of how Toyobaru frame it, if you could isolate the sound from the speaker, you’d hear that there’s nothing inherently FA24 to it. It’s a digital algorithm - sounds nothing like a 4 banger (boxer or not).
LOL 5mm is pretty much not worth mentioning unless talking wrist watch specs or something
I'd kill for a full size tyre, space saver or none at all are you for Real.
NONE at all! It's called paying for road service....pretty cheap and I get to save the weight and have extra cargo space ....If I ever get a flat I simply call AAA to come get me...I do admit a spare is nice for road trips but that is not what my sports car is for, in that case I take our roomy CX5
@@dougiequick1 RAA is better mate
Hyundai Tiburon????
Compare this to the Nissan 400 😁
I find it ugly in comparison to the 86.
How tall are you?
Because this car is look big but some channel it look small with tall guy.
Ponch = instant like
Shame the interior is so low quality
the front of both cars looks way worse than the old model....all having to do with ugly headlamps.
Affordable rear wheel drive LSD equipped Sports Cars are as rare as Hen's teeth now. Toyota/Subaru have this small niche market segment sewn up, have for years now. So. Is it the best RWD driver's coupe? Well compared to what?? A 2022 Toyota 86?? This new model seems to be trying to hard now, to look like an old 924/944 80's design.
(I intentionally left out the venerable MX5/Miata, its a toy car, for toy people I'm afraid now.....)
Well hardly "sewn up" as the seriously lighter albeit only 180ish hp Miata is still going strong also RWD LSD super fun in twisties ....btw i never see brz86s in the canyons wierd...loads of Porsches quite a few Miatas ...guessing it is younger set buying the BRZ86s which in comparison might easily explain things? An age group being too busy working schooling and of course chasing girls to be driving the twisties all the time....strangely civilian sports car fun driving appears to be much more of an old guy thing (who seem to have more disposable time and money on average?) ....just my perception idk i could be wrong....Also I am guessing the younger bunch dont want to be buying new tires every 5k ...I'll be lucky to get 5k miles....lol ALSO (just a thought) MAYBE when the youngsters do start down that road of regular mountain driving they get too fast in trouble?? I know in my younger days I kept being forced to take reprieves from my fun driving as I several times was in the "one more citation and your license is GONE" situation lol...not to mention the insurance company just RAPED me for my driving driving habits...! Just saying I did not spend anywhere near as much time on the mountain roads as I dearly wanted to when I was young...as I do now! btw my first new car I ever purchased? 79 RX7...loved that car! Damn wife got pregnant and there is no spot for a baby with two adults in the RX7lol....so it got traded at 40k miles...Was several years till I could get back to my passion!
This car is just begging to be dropped on some good coilovers
How fun doing dips/speed bumps and parking lot ramps etc....uhhh NOT!
The original subaru STI parts will add front lips, side skirts and rear side skirts, also diffuser to make it look lower. But for some perhaps it’s too low and you will hit ramp angles and speed bumps with these on.
Was so cheap feeling before. I hope they've changed that.
price point car so I would not expect a whole lot....what I DO hope they fixed in the new platform is the quirky noises people complained about but never could find
I chose an I30n sedan over this. This new 86 is just outdated and out performed. It needs aftermarket parts which is $$$.
3300llb ugly 4 door....yuuuck not me...Anyway I love to carve and care less about something gaining a couple car lengths in a drag race especially since I find that entirely lame to begin with
The i30n is 4WD, so apples and oranges. It's a 4 door, so apples and oranges. It's 15k more expensive, apples and oranges. It is NOT a 2 door, RWD sports car. Enough said.
@@richardhoulton4016 all sorts of nice cars, SUVs, Trucks, planes , submarines....me I love the little roadsters you can keep anything else
@@peterg2345 FWD
Subaru > Toyota :D
"So, if you want to breed? It doesn't have to be boring".... Charming comment. Unsubscribed.
Harmless irreverence. Sorry you were offended.
Seriously? What a snowflake.
I mean with Ponch and a comment like that, my head goes in an entirely other direction 😏. Would that offend you less?
Haha 🤡 don’t let the door hit on your way out 👋
Lol he's right tho. Just had a kid, had to buy a boring car.