Exactly and it’s sad. I once had a talk with a person at my college who was a primarily liberal person and I myself am conservative (all differences aside) the whole time we were speaking, there was this one thing that we both agreed on and were shocked about and that was how we both were finally able to find another person who would actually speak to the other without commencing into an ape-like tribal battle.
@@mattcarberry368 And social media.. Conversations like this happen everyday, just not often on the internet (unless you know where to look) because it’s not dance videos or someone “getting owned.” It’s sad, but that’s what holds the attention of this dumbed down society.
@Jacobson Dan Alexander I wouldn’t say he’s not left or not right wing I think he’s a healthy mixture of both which I think is the most beneficial for society as a whole
@@jeremychicken3339 ok how many dead cuz of slavery? Racism? American imperialism? A wasted war in the middle east that now they're realizing o shit we can't win this ever. No matter who we try to prop up. Almost like this has happened before. Vietnam anyone? Stfu blood is on both sides.
One of the main issues with the disability program, as Yang has stated, is that people on disability are under constant governmental and societal scrutiny. If they go out and get a part time job, they suddenly appear fully able bodied and risk losing their disability. With UBI, it would be condition free. It would urge more people living on disability to apply themselves and find jobs/volunteer work without the risk of shame/being kicked off the program.
i love this dumb idealogy. if you're working, you don't need to collect disability. my parents are both disabled and work without collecting it because there are people who are too disabled to work and need the money. if you can work at all, the point of disability is not for you.
Thanks for having Ben Shapiro on. We need more societal debate and discussion among people of opposing views. Both are of you guys should be applauded. Very grown up dialogue. You guys give me hope.
The thing is Shapiro actively tries to avoid situations like this where he's confronted on a level playing field. He much prefers the power dynamic he gets when he's on stage of the microphone and gets to interrupt college students
@@nigeladams8321 what the fuck? People ASK him to speak at colleges. People PAY him to go to the colleges. What are you on about? If Ben was really worried about that, he wouldn’t talk to someone as big as joe Rogan especially since joe Rogan has such a big audience. Your logic is honestly so flawed it seems like you have a complete lack of self and social awareness.
@@jclive2860 being paid to talk does not mean that you're smart. And arguing with college students while he's in control of the microphone does not make Ben look clever it makes him look pathetic
Bens right about being on dissability. It's not like I do all the hobbies or desires or passions that I would like to do. It's really just going from bill to bill.
Exactly paying somebody $12,000 a year just because they live in the country isn’t going to entice them to do any more it’s going to actually allow them to do less. If somebody has a lot of money and a purpose they don’t just go start doing stuff with that money if we give people a purpose even without the money they’ll go and I’ll do some thing if that makes any sense
There's more factors to this, education and so on like you've been taught math doesn't mean you can't be taught basic personal finance or at least have government agencies help with ubi distribution
I lost my job because of lockdown and haven't had any new opportunities since. Decided it was time to start growing weed. Its lockdown proof. Its cash only with no tax, I work from home and I keep people happy. Best decision my government made for me.
I think what Ben is missing is how the current welfare system disincentivizes, even punishes individuals for improving their lot. I’ve seen firsthand how Social Security keeps my special needs sister in a chokehold- if she tried to get a job more than likely she will make over the meager monthly cap & lose her SSI benefits. As an intellectually disabled person with a limited skill set, it’s not easy to find the right job or a flexible employer so she cannot take that risk. Just working at a movie theater one year her income exceeded what she was “allowed” to make, so she spent the next year paying back SSI. Similarly, disadvantaged people have to weigh the risks of getting a poor paying job they could lose any day, & end up losing welfare too. With UBI, at least it’s no strings attached, & no fall-out from trying to get ahead. There is also an intrinsic dignity & sense of autonomy since you’ve been entrusted to do whatever you feel is in your own best interests. It’s a completely different animal in my view.
originallimu, Im curious as to what the minimum wage is where you are? Here in Maryland the state minimum wage is $10.10/hour (Federal minimum wage is $7.25). Here in Maryland it would take 4.5 hours a week for a month to gross $180 and at the federal rate it would take 6.2 hours a week for a month. I agree with it being bullshit that there is a cap on income to receive benefits. SSI shouldn’t be given based on income. We pay into it for the benefit of being secure socially in case of disability or some extenuating case. It’s insurance and it’s one of the great scams our nation plays out on its citizens. It’s like your never allowed to have it easy ever in life even if only for a moment. Heaven for mind you get a little more than your supposed to, then you get punished and have to pay it back with interest, but our government can go ahead and take from that fund whenever they want without repercussion. It’s a messed up system in deed.
This guy talks like going to church would help someone quit a drug that creates so much pain in withdrawal that most users kill themselves before getting through being sick from stopping. It’s just unrealistic to expect someone to quit drugs that cause seizures and death from stopping. These people are homeless and use drugs because it’s a better life than working all day for minimum wage and living in a house that isn’t much better than a tent in the first place.
@@domnoya4130 Not really as simple as “going to church will immediately help you get off drugs” it’s if you find a deeper meaning in your life (a job, family that matters to you etc) you will feel more purpose & more likely to beat the drugs. Especially when you instill that purpose into your children then they are less likely to be in that position. Next thing you know in one generation your family could go from poor drug attics to at least people who are striving to better theirselves. Ben just used the example of church as the vehicle to do that
When people loose jobs they loose purpose! Very true!!! I've been on unemployment for 9 months due to Covid and I feel the depression getting deeper. Keeping busy in a purposeful way is sooo crucial for society!
If you believe in the Bible, even Adam and Eve worked in the garden, which was literally a perfect world. Work gives human beings purpose. That’s how God designed us.
Not force. Ben is always willing to have a dialogue . On his interview he has had some left leaning people on and he lets them speak and is very deferential. He is like that on his interview show because as he says the point is to hear from the interview guest.
spoken like someone who's never actually heard Ben speak. when he speaks at colleges he literally wants the people who disagree with him at the front of the line. i love how Liberals think every conservative his just some loud mouthed idiot who won't let anyone talk, we want to speak with you! we want to debate your stupid opinions! its you guys who never want to talk to us
if they're violent criminals, measure it against the cost of the crimes they'll commit if you let them out. I guarantee you prison is cheaper. No one ever seems to analyze it in those terms.
@@brucetucker4847 completely true. But there's def a middle ground where violent offenders should be kept off the streets but nonviolent offenders should be given better sentences and more opportunities. For example, theres no reason anyone should be in prison for drug possession.
My parents had just turned 17, my mom litterally 1 week before my sister was born... over a month early and blind. They both dropped out of high school, my dad went to work as a mechanic and my mom stayed home. By the time they were 22, they had 3 kids, 2 of whom were blind, but they didn't feel that they could demand our completion of school if neither of them had done it, so as the youngest, when I was around 5 or 6, they both went back to night school and completed their educations. After that, my dad got his college degree from home, all while working 50 or more hours a week. Yes, people make mistakes, but when you get pregnant, it's time to start adulting. Sex is an adult activity, so if you're not adult enough to take on the possible consequences of it, you're not adult enough to do it. Sometimes you have to sacrifice, whether it's money, education, dreams, but someone who isn't willing to sacrifice for the good of their children needs to work on how to be a good human. My parents are still together 45 years later. They are happy and successful with my dad just a few years from a well deserved retirement. They both grew up very poor, children of manual laborers with stay at home moms. They put off their needs and wants to make sure we kids had new school clothes and occasionally things like expensive sneakers. They're empty nesters now, with 3 happy and successful children and they're living the dream. If you make a baby, take care of it before yourself. Pretty simple.
That is an amazing and uplifting story, but the situation now is waaaaayyy different. For example, in the 1960s, it would've cost ~100,000 of TODAYS moneys to buy a home, where as the same home is now selling for ~220,000.
@@A55VOILATOR Average salary in 1960 was $5,600 now it is $44,225. That's a ratio of 17,86 to 4,97 which means that it is 3,59x cheaper to buy a house today. So yes, you are right when you say the situation is waaaaayyy different. Because it is easier.
@@monkelifter well said. the math is there. and who says you're entitled to owning property? renting isnt great, but if you didnt invest in yourself the same degree as a person who became an accountant or welder why should you get the same home ownership reward?
Why is it okay for Americans to receive a Universal Basic Income but we still have slave labour making clothes for us in China? There is nothing Universal about it. It is actually a National Basic Income...
Joe Rogan is not allowed to talk about that. He didn't laugh, because he is not suppose to encourage anything to do with the government's agenda to turn everyone gay to destabilize the Family. Because the American Family from the 1900s was a structure where a Mom and Dad both passed on knowledge and Wisdom to their genetic offspring. And the New World Order can't take over the world without taking over people's minds, and they can't take over people's minds if everyone got knowledge of the truth about this world and wisdom from both their Mom and Dad. So the whole putting chemicals in the water to cause a hormonal imbalance in people to turn the human population gay, is to end the traditional Family, to stop knowledge and wisdom from passing down to the next Generation. To dumb down society. And to take away high testosterone, which is known by the radical left as toxic masculinity. You know masculinity, that thing that makes Men brave enough to stand up against a tyrannical government. So Joe Rogan can't talk about that. Or he loses his job if he talks about anything to do with the gay agenda. Joe is not a sell out as much as he is scared of the people that rule the world, because Joe has a lot to lose. So he is doing the smart thing to do. Not the right thing to do by keeping his mouth shut, but the smart thing to do is for him to keep his mouth shut so that he can keep his job, house, cars, bank account, and wife and kids. You would keep your mouth shut too if you were Joe and you loved your Family.
@DeadMemes NeedToStayDead Your reply is to vague, not specific enough, in the sense that you are not making it clear what exactly I said that you are replying to. I don't know the context of your reply, I don't know what you are replying to, so I don't get what you're saying. As for our brain being programmable, well you do know that our brain is nothing more than an organic computer, with software and apps aka education and skills, and yes there are some misinformation and misunderstanding aka viruses in our minds that pollute the rest of the accurate information floating around in our synapses. Haven't you ever heard of Television programming? They can program your brain like a coder computer scientist can program a computer. Human beings are not inherently stupid, that is a new phenomenon, caused by TV, news propaganda, movie propaganda, and yes, even propaganda in textbooks in the public schools we go to. Here is the neat thing about being human, you can program yourself by studying to become whoever you want in life. 1 person can read the Bible, another person to Koran, another the Torah, another the Buddhist Bible Tripotaka, another a course on evolutionary biology. Another 4 years in college physics another in ancient History. And 90% of the population will take a course on Hollywood propaganda. We all choose what we study, we are always learning. Joe Rogan is no different, he learned a lot of truth and lot of bullshit too. It's hard to admit when you ate wrong. If you learn anything from me, know this. We are all organic computers, and all of us, including you and me, and Joe Rogan and Stephen Hawking, and Richard Dawkins, the President, the Pope and the Queen. ALL of US. WE have all been programmed with truth and lies at the same time. I don't what I believe is true that might be incorrect, and what I believe is correct that might be a lie that someone said at some point in History that I now to be truth. And you Sir, you don't know for sure if everything you believe is actually true. There is 3 sides to every story. The truth, the lie, and the real reason based on money. At the end of the day Joe is loyal to money more than he loyal to you. Truth and lies, that's irrelevant. Money, profit, obtaining resources 9 out of 10 is everyone's primary motive to do and say what they do and say. If money didn't exist, 99% of lies ever made in the History of Humanity would never have been said or written. Everyone is an opportunist, except for your Mom and if you're lucky enough to grow up with your biological Dad, than in life you can only trust your Mom and Dad who bought you into this world, and your Body is part of theirs. So since they are loyal to themselves chances are that they are loyal to your wellbeing. But apart from your pparents who sincerely love you, no one else in this world has your best interest in mind 100% of the time. Trust no one! Because everyone's loyalty is to money, not to you.
Vincent There are conspiracies, and there are conspiracy theories. There’s conspiracy theorists too. I say with this with all the humanly concern and seriousness I can muster, are you off your meds? If so please take them.
@@robalexnat what does your research, and the study that got you into it, focus on specifically? I'm an undergrad newbie studying various subjects related to artificial intelligence, and I really want to hear from people working in those fields and what they think about the control problem, industry automation, and so on. Thanks.
@@joshuaboulton36 cool, where/what are you studying? if ure interested in AI i recommend a v strong foundation in math (namely: Discrete, Linear, Calc, Probability and Stats for starters). Also what control problem are you referring to?
@@robalexnat I'm a philosophy major in New Zealand, but I include other subjects in my degree program, and have studied software development in the past. For example I've done some discrete math, calculus, linear algebra, and full stack software engineering. This semester I've studying cognitive psychology, Turing, and epistemology and metaphysics. I have courses in automata, logic, discrete math, algorithms, AI programming, Chinese politics, economics, and a few others planned for the rest of my degree, but have already started studying these things by myself. The rest are in most subfields of philosophy. By 'control problem' I'm referring broadly to the concerns of individuals like Nick Bostrom, regarding our ability to handle potential dangers of artificial and/or superintelligences in the future. My main interests in philosophy are epistemology, metaphysics, philosophy of mathematics, philosophy of science, logic, metaethics, philosophy of language (ish - think Wittgenstein etc.), philosophy of mind, and, well, philosophy of artificial intelligence.
@@joshuaboulton36 just saw this. those seem a lot of diverse subjects for an undergrad, im not sure how deep you're going into each considering they are p dense fields. that being said im glad youve taken an interest as it will benefit u in a larger scope, I too studied cognitive psych in my free time for different reasons and believe it helps in our decision making. For the control problem, really isnt a problem is it? You will have the first few to reach the singularity to try and abuse it. However like any successful arms race, there is more than one. The implication I feel is a greater danger of governmental control over citizens, and since governments are made of humans that change, at what point are we being run by the AI? But you can argue the same things about the systems we have in place already: and the truth is is that its a very potent and powerful weapon, but one that also works for what it is programmed. Fortunately, most who can harness that power arent in search of anarchy, however instead we face the danger of 24/7 surveillance, and with integrated tech, being able to read our minds soon, as well. Just some food for thought, if you wanna chat here is my email: robjrm@gmail.com
I find it interesting that Ben is critical of UBI basing its success on people making the right decisions with money (they'd use it in ways that benefits nobody) but he also bases the concept of proper child raising by the parents staying together (even though one could be abusive, a drug addict, etc). Basically, both are hopeful that a good scenario plays out for them to work and both can fail because they don't.
It’s the same argument about winning the lottery and losing it all like an idiot, some people will and some won’t. Personal responsibility. Some people actually would appreciate the opportunity
@Lujack Shaw How do you know that? If there's no restrictions, some people will feed their addictions. Young people who've never worked before may waste it, since they didn't earn the money themselves and don't appreciate the value.
@gillysuit2 im on all kinds of drugs. And i am also a music producer. I am a painter (art). I play football. I love life. I do all kinds of drugs. What do you base your shit on? Government propaganda?
@@INeedsMoneys You probably had art and music tendencies and urges before you went down the drug rabbit hole. Hes trying to say that people that are not musically or art inclined will all of a sudden start producing this with more money
The Reason Why Guy UBI does nothing for people crippled by depression or smothered with a lack of purpose, only social programs can help those issues. Give an alcoholic an extra thousand dollars and they will just make themselves more drunk, extra money won’t deal with their problems. More people in the poorest areas of America will just get robbed more once a month, those who get to spend the money won’t spend it better because no one has shown them how. These are generalizations of course, but we need to deal with the general issues and THEN the specialized cases. People need purpose and a society that values purpose driven people. Government can’t do that well. Yang wants to do what politicians have always done - throw money at a problem until it fixes itself.
Controversial opinion incoming btw I feel that the best way to run a nation is for the nations government to be the primary employer. Of course you need international businesses to keep markets flowing but small businesses should be operated by a just government. Instead of having a welfare system in place (or like our Australian system Centerlink works) these people would instead be offered a variety of potential jobs created by the government and these can range from mining, clerical (desk jobs) , manufacturing, refining, teaching, marketing and research. They can choose any of these available jobs and the starting rates are all identical. When you climb the corporate ladder in each job your pay increases. Those who refuse to work are given minimal pay but will never have their options taken from them. With this kind of system in place it would allow these people who want to seek out work and purpose an easier transition into work while also giving them valuable experience. The reason these programs need to be government operated is bc it allows the government to tailor its demographics by setting what jobs are available. (Assuming the government isn’t inept but if we can ignore the financial issues with UBI we can ignore this). Additionally these government workplaces will be extremely profitable to the nation as all profits that don’t go into wages, maintenance and expansion go directly to the government. Essentially it’s a 100% tax rate. Also with politically operated industry it would allow for the individual workers more power in corporate matters as the leaders of these workplaces would be elected by the people and not shareholders. I’m willing to discuss more benefits in a book I’m writing called “The Rationalist Manifesto”. Which is the best attempt I can make at a perfect political system which I feel is balancing rationality (science and debate) with nationalism (strong morals and drive to better the state) I would very much enjoy a reply even if you just call me a faggot :)
Jake Neylon I won’t call you a faggot unless you’re a bundle of sticks or see that word as empowering, I don’t even use it on homosexuals I despise. I see the government’s ability to run businesses in the American DMV and the VA centers, both plagued with bureaucrats and inefficient practices to keep themselves in their positions with no care to the people they should be helping. The most competent and effective workers/bosses are glossed over so that the most shrewd or conniving get ahead - this is not because of actual corruption but because moral/just people accept reality while those without such encumbrances can lie to their heart’s content and really, who wants to hear an ugly truth over a pretty lie? Now, apply that to the whole government-business you’re proposing. How about this for a counter offer: A government focused on the creation and protection of small businesses. Let’s pick an arbitrary amount - a million dollars - as the maximum a company can be worth until the government steps in and makes demands about restructuring and making space for more competition in the market. This would create the best system for ambitious and inventive entrepreneurs. Large corporations would be gutted, leaving a space for anyone who wishes to make it in any field. Massive chains of businesses will either be closed or restructured into smaller restaurants. Target, Walmart, Publix - all those stores will not exist as they are now. For the average worker, this is the best scenario - anyone could be one promotion or innovation away from being a success! International businesses would have to adopt this style of business if they wanted to continue serving Americans, which could open several opportunities for our citizens when the markets begin to recover from the inevitable instability that will result from the change in market design. The most important thing: It provides an avenue for EVERYONE to have purpose in their lives AND puts a ceiling on success that ANYONE could reach with drive and ambition (short of the absolute bottom 1%, but neither of our programs explicitly help them anyway). If that’s too far, we can make it where a tax increase is added as the company becomes more successful to disincentivize massive corporations. Large enough companies would suffer considerably, making way for smaller businesses to work while the near monopolies are throttled. Punishing the big bullies while allowing the small guy to succeed - the American dream. I’ll call it the New American Plan, find it in all fine book stores around the time of my presidential candidacy.
$1000.00/mo for every adult over 18 would be a MASSIVE failure... crime, civic problems, food shortages, human trafficking, etc. Money will not resolve these soc problems ...
At one of my first jobs as an accountant, there was an older man who scoffed at the idea of "tech" taking away the human element. Fast forward 10 years and we ask every entry candidate what is your familiarity with any type code or data mining/anlysis. Learn to code....even the basic levels.
It's called, "picking your battles." When you present a valid counter to someone who has written a book on their philosophy, the writer grasps at straws, creates false comparisons, and becomes angry. This is not what you want to do when hosting a guest. Ben is simply being courteous during his interactions with Yang. Go watch the video, you will see that he DID touch on these arguments in a very respectful way.
People are either missing the point or just don't want to understand it. Yang is a genius, literally a genius. Ben didn't really counter his idea because Yang would have owned him!
I agree with Ben on this one. I was an accident baby lol my parents had a shot gun wedding and 2yrs later they divorced. My dad always blamed my mom for "getting pregnant." My dad is a traditional guy and my mom was a party girl. He was an idiot for not taking responsibility for not using a condom and she was an idiot for having raw sex with a guy she hardly knew. As a result, I grew up with a dad either in Germany or across the country (Army). My mom was out working, NEVER took welfare and I been cooking and cleaning for myself since I was 6. I was ALWAYS alone and unattended. No one to be there emotionally, no help with school work, no one to monitor my safety, and I was literally alone all day except for when I went to school. Where I had to walk rain, snow or shine. Past drug dealers and gang members; alone. When my mom was off from work... she was busy partying and dating new guys. Apart of me can't imagine my parents together because my dad is traditional and my mom... not lol but wish they put those issues aside for the sake of not leaving me neglected. There was no physical or drug abuse. Problems that I think are not big problems. Wish people thought of those things before bringing children in the world.
my story is almost the same without the drug dealers and my parents were married but they were gone working all the time ... so I was left on my own most of the time ... going to school all that but I have good memories from this and it made me more self sufficient ... so your upbringing is a negative memory for you and for me it was like Tom Sawyer, Huckleberry Finn, and I stopped blaming my parents a long long time ago ...
@@ifoundthistoday I stop blaming my parents a long time ago but I do share my experiences with young adults. I learned from my parents mistakes and tried to do better for my kids.
Actually with UBI, people will pursue their interest, what they really want in life.. Not everyone is a fan of being employed, having to work 9-5 is exhausting... Most people want to be free from corporate slavery.. and focus more in all areas of health and choose to become happy.. the goal is financial freedom.
Again that’s foolish to say that will just overall be good for the individuals and the country as a whole. We can’t all be making a living as an artist, that will destroy our country even through just a basic policy level. Also have you seen the top level artists of our country? These guys are millionaires and are still dealing with extreme depression, and drug dependency. Most people can’t handle that level of success or the isolation that it takes to be a unique artist.
Not particularly. If you have a job, your wage is determined based on the value that you as an individual bring to the work place. If you work at say mcdonald’s making 14 an hour your work is alienable at lower rates compared to an individual writing complex code for say google.
Yea the US probably wont have some rare black swan event that leads to a huge spike in unemployment and causes the government to send out checks......that would be crazy!
The US, like Canada, like the UK and the rest of the free world are now under an 'invented and globally staged EVENT' that will hasten the next phase of human enslavement that is U.B.I.
Well, hindsight is 2020, after all. Shapiro specifically mentioned that with respect to people becoming unemployed due to automation though. Gotta keep everything in context.
Being a child from a broken home, I agree with Ben. Take responsibility for your child, deal with the person whom you temporarily had affection for (resulting in another human being) and realize that providing your kid with a stable, respectful, and RATIONAL place to learn how to be a person, is more important than your ego for a limited time. Broken relationships due to ego will only produce ASSHOLE children... like me
The basic purpose of life is survival of self and of species - food, shelter, procreation. A job provides money which provides food and shelter for ourselves and our offspring. We all want to "like" our jobs ideally, but that is far secondary to survival and is actually a complete luxury.
@The Other Point Of View you must have really low expectations of people then. Any person should be encouraged to partake in these sorts of discussions. Maybe you don't understand because you aren't a very smart person? Or you don't agree with Ben's opinion and wish he wouldn't voice it? Kind of ironic you're watching a podcaster that actively encourages open dialogue between people.
Remember, the fear of automation and the general loss of all human jobs is now over 100 years old and has not come to fruition yet. These are the same fears that led people to destroy printing presses.
We dont need no obligatory education. Everyone should have the right to choose. We were obligated to be born. Ps: I am Mechatronics Engineering student.
I think the concern about the future of automation is that AI systems change the equation. New tech did always used to just become an "aid" for people to do work and if it meant that 1 person could do the work that 4 people used to do it was more likely that there would be 4x more productivity than 4x less jobs. But AI systems change that because it IS doing the job, not just providing tools to do the job. An AI agent repalces a worker in a way that we haven't yet really experienced ever. And that shouldn't be dismissed like this.
@@astayunothefirsr1847 Yea he's clearly a smart guy but he portrays his views quite arrogantly too. Some of his ideas are a bit whacky and just because you think he's intelligent doesn't mean you can't challenge him.
@@astayunothefirsr1847 you don't have to be that smart. you just need to be smarter than a million other people, which is reasonably feasible for a lot of people
I mean this is an interesting topic. I think what work is essentially the modern world's supplement to what would've been your role as a tribal member 50,000 years ago. My guess is, what you did for "work" in the tribe gave you purpose, because the fruits of your labor were tangible, in that it directly affected the people of your community eg. (hunting,farming,teaching kids). So I think people may be hardwired to expect what they do to give them meaning, because that is the world the human brain evolved in. Since we are largely disconnected from our work, we don't really know the people whom our work affects, it cannot provide that sense of meaning. So people are left trying to supplement that need for meaning elsewhere. Perhaps you could say though that this is an opportunity for people to find purpose on a deeper level, but I wonder if that is essentially, expecting the biology of your brain to change.
Yuon Flemming well no shit. But you don’t deserve money for breathing. Learn a skill or a trade that you love doing. “If you do what you love you will never work a day in your life.”
Question the statement that 'when people lose jobs they lose purpose.' I believe purpose is not necessarily always tied to your work and purpose can come from other things such as intellectual pursuits, physical pursuits, and personal pursuits such as travel or raising a family. People don't always need a job to have a purpose.
I am that single mom they're describing. Getting set up is a struggle and I really wish I could just have some quick help but I don't want to live on a gov. free money system! I just want a little home to call my own and a job with school hours. I worked from home babysitting kids while my child was too young for school and then when he turned five I sent him to school and eventually found a job that had exactly the same hours as school including summer break. I think maybe a better system to put in place for single moms would be helping us all have those school hour jobs so we can provide for and parent our kids without missing out on those short precious years of their lives. It feels good to be able to say I'm earning my own money, when I had been on assistance in the past it felt awful.
The modern world is creating a perfect storm for catastrophic population decline because it's becoming impossible for normal people to raise children. In the past young parents could get married and establish themselves early, have 5 kids and a house by the age of 30. Because generations had kids in their 20s instead of 40s, and moved less, there were multiple generations in the same area so grandparents could raise kids while parents worked and vice versa. Now people graduate HS at 18, college at 22, start their first low-paid job in massive debt, pay off their debts at 35 maybe, buy a house at 40 if they're lucky, and finally be settled to raise kids. The timing is all wrong, it should be healthy and energetic 20-year-olds raising children with help from able 40-50 year-old grandparents; instead it's highly indebted 40-year-olds who are often divorced and isolated trying to raise children while also taking care of their 70-80-year-old decrepit grandparents.
@@mavenesquith6825 No, but as a sexually experienced single man that has N O kids, anytime outside tragedy of course, that any woman gets pregnant, its because they wanted to get pregnant.
@@brianlogan4243 I will agree it can be avoided as I've avoided it ever since my first pregnancy but to say it's wanted may be a stretch. More like neglect was involved, as with me. Though I'd not change a thing, I was certainly not looking to get pregnant. I do agree there should be more effort in avoidance but there's a lot now already that can be helped with a little effort
I've been alive 40 years. I've never had a job give me purpose. Having kids have me purpose, and I didn't learn that til 4 years ago. Wasted a lot of life making others richer while fruitlessly searching for purpose.
@@fortesfortunaadiuvat2181 I understand that. Society has done a horrible job preparing people for parenthood. I was in the fortunate position of having the means to do many of the things I thought might make me happy, and for long enough, to discover I was still empty. My advice is to forget about yourself to a great extent. Spend your energy helping them learn. Empathize with them and be patient. Remember the things you struggled with coming up, and do what you can to make sure they don't have the same struggles. Be honest with them, even brutally, so they can always trust you. Look for opportunity you can provide them. And then when they're teenagers they'll still hate you and think you're stupid anyway. But as Jim Jeffries says, then they'll look like the asshole
Martin Polly well don’t show that to your kids, allow them to grow up in a healthy environment and affirm to them that they can be very rich and successful, it can be the greatest investment when your kids don’t put you in a retirement home when your too old to help yourself. Take care
@@jolttsp I'm 37. I've been working low skilled jobs from age 16 - 32 and they never gave me purpose. However I've finally got a job as a software developer and it gives me a sense of pride. Not just because of a pay increase but because I'm building something really neat as opposed to the boring assembly line I was working in my 5 years.
One of the great ironies of history: the social welfare state that is detested by US conservatives was created by a conservative-Otto Von Bismarck. And he created it to prevent socialism. He saw that many were having trouble adjusting to the industrializing economy, and how that could allow socialist agitators to encourage revolution, so he decided to give the people a tangible demonstration that their government was on their side and would support them in time of need, effectively cutting the legs out from under the socialists. Genius.
I support automation in the public sector. Secretary of State, DMV, licensing departments, etc. There are so many government jobs that should automated. Government workers contribute nothing to society, they're burden to it. Force them into the private sector by automating away their jobs.
Yes and no. It’s a cop out on instead of pushing for closing the skills gap. We have more jobs than unemployment individuals. THE FIRST step should be EDUCATION not free handouts. I’m not completely against the IDEA of UBI but the current way it is being pushed is not going to work. Once the boomers all retire we’ll have even more open jobs AND less issues with the older generation not being tech savvy enough to stay employed in their 50’s.
@@nathanhedglin931 It's just going to keep getting worse. You are speaking as if it isn't. There is already AI which does some white collar work just as well as humans and faster. Note that in my comment I said, "... it's only a matter of time.". Take a look online for other info. ABCD
czcams.com/video/rV4izBSq9ng/video.html this guy can rattle off non sense pretty fast. If you can understand what he's saying he's actually hilarious :'D
The problem with UBI is very few people are really talking about "U" BI. Universal Basic Income is universal, as in everyone gets it, including people with a job, and billionaires like Elon Musk. Yes, it is possible that we will get to a point in time where automation is so good that very few people really "need" to work. Everyone gets $40K. The probable outcome is that some people will work and get rich. Some people will escape to space or whatever great frontier exists. Some people will pursue hobbies and other forms of work for entertainment. And some people will take their 40K, settle in to a 1BR apartment and play videogames and take drugs. Science Fiction authors have been speculating and modeling this for decades. I really don't think we are as close as some people think. I would guess at least 100 years.
Think you hit the nail on the head. It will make some lazy and this group will still 'feel' poor because of the hard working grafters who will go out and make more and have special 'privileges' what was that experiment where they gave all the poor people a load more income and most just spend it on alcohol and drugs?
Maybe we should try and build a greater sense of community so people actually start caring about their neighbors and their well being, and then vice versa? We've gone too far into individualism, we need a middle ground of individualism and collectivism. Everyone should be pushed to be the best they can be, because when everyone is like that, the group as a whole is better. Veterans often reminisce of the brotherhood and camaraderie they felt while serving; we can have that in civilian life too, we just have to work towards it together.
@@patriot9487 So, if I just want to mind my own business do you advocate the government come in and make me care about my neighbor? If not, how do you propose doing that? Maybe block parties, neighborhood BBQ? The problem with designing a system that relies on altruism is that it WILL (not might, will) be abused by some who act in their own self interest instead of the greater good. Those will rise to power and become dictators.
@@DragNetJoe Yaah democracy ain't so grand, so I don't really care if a strongman comes, it's GONNA happen here, just a matter of time. I like how people like you always instantly jump to "muh gubmint becoming stwonger" or "but what about me, ME, ME" instead of considering it's a cultural issue, and we need to change our culture.
The reason disabled people are hooked on opioids isn't because they don't have jobs. They get prescribed opioids for their disabilities then get hooked.
@@lorenaflores6563 yeah I'm gonna tell the blind man with liver disease to get off his lazy and go get a fucking job. And who gives a fuck who your son voted for lady
I think the problem with Basic Income is that inflation will eat BI through time and with that more people will start to use BI, which will increase inflation and decrease production and savings.
There are a lot of people in this world who still don't grasp just how quickly A,I, technology is advancing and its effects on the job market. People always think it's only going to effect the unskilled , its not just unskilled workers who will be loosing their jobs due to A.I. in the near future, its also going to be skilled professionals too. Computer software programmes are already doing the same jobs faster and more efficient that used to be done by many highly educated highly paid office workers, Thats why its the people who are at the fore front of technology are talking about the concept of Universal basic Income, because they better that anyone else can see its long term effects. I agree with Ben on a lot of different subjects but even he has not grasped the effects advanced technology is going to have in the near future. But in fairness I don't think he's a tech nerd so like most people he doesn't quite see it yet.
@@i_know_it2231 well to be honest the job I got after being unemployed for about half a year was not the ideal job for me, stressful and not very fulfilling but I was able to learn things, meet people then eventually invest in myself. So it was definately a give and take relationship, but it was way better than not having any prospects.
Not just automation-it's the temp/gig economy. . Started working skilled trades in a business 'campus' in 1996 and on the campus was 11 factories that paid good wages/benefits. By 2006 there was 15% temp staffing in the factories-in 2013 it was 85%. The temp workers made $9 an hour with no benefits and the factories paid the temp agency $14. The good paying jobs have left or are leaving. The problem will snowball-and do it fast.
I mean, I'm a programmer. It's a satisfying career, and it's totally possible to get into it without a degree, but it's not a universal solution to the current job crisis. If a friend who was good at problem solving wanted to know what to do with their life, I'd tell them to try Python or Kotlin, maybe there's a career in there for them. But it would be downright delusional to recommend this to an entire classroom, never mind an entire online audience, we can't have a fucking software-based economy. I once saw some guy on CZcams respond to the complaint that McDonald's workers don't get vacation time with "But the managers do, so you just need to be promoted to manager". Right, let's just have everyone be managers. Finally, a lot of conservatives comment on the absurd cost of university with "If you work hard, you'll get a scholarship". But everyone fucking knows scholarships are only for the best 5-10%, there aren't nearly enough for everyone.
@@gabrielfraser2109 No one ever said it was the end-all solution for unemployment. A private company teachers coal miners to code and gets them jobs in the field. The media reported it on it because they found the story intriguing. Then conservative snowflakes wined and said but we all can't learn to code. No one ever said that. No one ever said all unemployment could be solved by learning to code. All it ever was, was a story about how a company tried to help unemployed previous coal miners get jobs from learning to code. It was an overreaction to a simple story.
@@nbkw48 what? That logic test applies to the OP. Ben didn't say poets don't do drugs, he said the welfare community isn't creating a lot of art and developing some meaningful social fabric. The OP strawmanned the shit out of the argument
Yang 2024 Ahh I was for it if it replaced programs but that shit ain’t gon work financially. There’s barely enough money for it to work with cutting all benefits, not even close without cutting.
misfit 25 i used to only spend around max-ish 6k a year however i live with my parents i managed to save around 70k in 5 years :) could be around 100k if i was Single and didn’t went out as much as i did when i was younger.
@James Robert it's easy to save and not put your happiness on materialist things. everyone is all sh@ting bricks with this pandemic because of wrong life choices. and the ones that get easily offended are the people that make excesses. people that believe earning 16k for 10+ years and complaining about not living just need to suck it up. i'm dyslexic but I still got my dream job AND a side business selling stuff. I only make around £100 on that business it but it's a start.
@Burt Gummer not if everyone even millionaires get it. I get it inuse to work.for ups which was a union the only way you could get fired was if you stole something. I busted my ass for nothing while I had to help other workers at my same position unload there trucks. I'm open with both sides on ubi, but I'd rather be early with it than late. Automation is just coming in such a quick rate, I've seen many personal instances where 50-60 year olds are getting replaced at factories and replaced by robots and they have a hard time finding a job which they were at 30+ years for making 20+$/hr. I have alot of problems with america, it isn't the freest country in the world. College is the biggest ponzi scheme in America, colleges have become more expensive with a degree not being worth the money.
@Burt Gummer I create automation software, I can tell you within 5 years 90+% of factories will only need 30-50 employees. The next one is the trucking industry. Automating semi trucks to go strait between the east and west coast is already in place.
some people will take UBI and be fine with that. others will take UBI as a foundation to build a better future for themselves. if increasing automation is an inevitable aspect of technological progress, then we won't have much of a choice but to implement some form of UBI- unless we just want people dying in the streets... which is kind of already happening... so, we're kind of already there.
I lost my job due to being ill. Yes I’m on SSI since I was 56 now 60. I get almost 30 a year because over the years the government taxed the hell out of me. Your premise that people like me just stay home and do drugs is so off base. I actually am in my last year of getting my degree to do an animated job at 60. Remember not everyone is the same and some of us gave paid dearly in taxes through out our life for SSI.
@@noahgarcia5951 Cept Ben is a far right shill. He acted sane during his Yang interview and then goes and shills on Rogan. And whenever people call him out on his bullshit he retracts it and pretends it never happened. Yang already said he wants to legalize opioids so that people aren't worried about going to prison when they want to reach out for help. And that is jsut the beginning.
@Dewayne Thomas. First of all, "Far Right" is not a thing. Not really. Even if it was (like Nazis), Ben is a Jew. (Also, in my opinion the actions of said "Far Right" Nazis are far more reflected by the current day Far Left, than they do the Right. Meaning more governmental control, Confinsation of guns, a single Political Party controled country, Socialist programs and an extreme hatred toward a single race of people as blaming them for the cause of all the problems. In the Left's case this means "Whites".) Second, Ben "acted sane" as you put it because that's what Interveiwers are Supposed to do. Ask questions of the person that they're interveiwing and then keep their mouths shut. Unlike what the Left has been doing which is demonize anything you have to say that doesn't apply to the narative that they want you to say. Ask any documentarian. Heck ask Casey Jay why she kept her mouth shut when she was doing all of her interveiws despite she hated what the MRA's had to say. (Her TedEd Talk can be found here: czcams.com/video/3WMuzhQXJoY/video.html ) Third, "whenever people call him out on his bullshit", you mean whenever people try to tell Ben what he said incorrectly? Like how you call what Ben did here with Rogan as "shilling". Or perhaps durring the times where he's quoted saying something before (as in years prior) without any regard that time has passed by. Thus, mistakes (if any) are discovered and retracted properly, or opinions have changed due to new facts that have been discovered. Forth, Ben has always had this opinion Reguardless of Yang's existence and he is raising the exact same points that any sane person would on the topics. (Heck, there are a number of things that I noticed about his interveiw with Yang. For starters, Yang never actually Answers the questions that he's asked. He tells a story, vaguely mentions the topic, but never really answers.)
@@OsmoZchannel We have to change our view on drugs in order to better rehab. Being able to be convicted and stigmatized for using causes A LOT of people to be wary of rehabilitation. I personally approve of how the UK treats it. Its a health epidemic. Treating it as such allows for alternate means of dealing with it.
MultiTarded the people that do drugs will do drugs anyway, so instead of them committing crime and breaking into something here’s the 2 grand a month and they can shoot up or clean up c
I can't work because of my aspergers and can't get ssdi so my mom takes care of me and she is dyeing so ubi would keep me from because homeless. And I could start a bladesmithing shop and sell them and one day I could support myself.
@C caymer Haha! I wasn't completely honest with my first comment. I trucked for five years. I'm recently running our company's office and moonlighting as a Linux sysadmin :D
@@tommynoble9075 It's not. It's a great thing and great for him. But like many conservative commentators, they're a little out of touch with how people near the poverty line lives. "I think you should stick it out for the kids" is a statement I don't think he would be saying growing up a kid in an unhappy home.
He mentions this study a lot and it’s not in this clip, but couples who graduated high school, both work and don’t get pregnant out of wedlock have a 98% probability of success. Some of the biggest issues in a home are money, but this study (from Harvard or Yale I forget) shows that your chances of money struggles are less if you do those 3 things.
I started in the projects ended up working... If you really want out, YOU WILL GET OUT. Keep your head up, never give up, and understand some people you are going to let go if you wanna make it
The only help that ever really gets you anywhere self help. it doesn't matter how badly other people want you to succeed if you don't want to succeed you're doomed.
But this is exactly how you create purpose. Of course at the beginning there won't be much, but after time, bored people will do creative things. Some people just don't have it in them and that won't be weather they get UBI or don't.
@@aetherblackbolt1301 "Crisis of purpose" is like "Dignity of work" in that they're terms that right-wingers use while saying "facts don't care about your feelings" with no sense of irony. Right-wing politicians act like if you give people a UBI, they won't work because they won't have to. That's not how people work, though. We, as a people, actually don't enjoy sitting on our arses doing nothing for months at a time. We also don't enjoy being forced to work a job we hate because we're not making enough money to get something better.
@@davidhill2020 Agreed. I thought UBI was too experimental back before the DemonRats kicked Andrew and Tulsi to the curb. Now look at us. Billions of dollars of weapons, equipment and bases donated the Taliban, who took no time at all using it against any dissenters, especially women. Trillions of dollars for Wall Street. Billions to Fauci, who has used it to torture Beagles with sand flies for no discernable reason... And we still don't have UBI. If we're going to print trillions, we can at least give it to the people, instead of torturing puppies and arming terrorists.
It’s not possible to help people that do not want help or change in their lives! At some point a person must decide to move! They must find drive, motivation, desire for betterment, initiative! Until “they” find this or its introduced into their lives AND they embrace it their lives will follow a very similar even predictable pattern. 👍 Pattern Hint: people can only do so many things with themselves. If they aren’t being productive well there is only 1 other thing they could be doing! I’ll leave that last part for readers to figure out. Happy New Year everyone! 🎉🎈⭐️
@@ashishkalam9337 A lot of people don't want to work if they don't have to. For example, right now a lot of companies are hiring in the USA but are having a hard time hiring people because people are getting unemployment benefits.
@@karaokeandrandomclips I would prefer to work if I could find a job that pays me enough to support myself. Jobs paying less than a liveable wage is the real problem.
@@karaokeandrandomclips the only reason these people who are receiving unemployment benefits don't work is because as soon as they work they lose those benefits. UBI is supposed to be where even if you do get a job you won't lose UBI unless you make a big amount of money
My job is slowly being replaced by a website, and my last job was with RadioShack for almost a decade, I know too much what it feels like to be replaced by a digital environment.
10 years at Radio Shack? By 2003 people knew that place would go belly up. Idk where you live, but hopefully COL wasnt high & you got back on your feet.
Kurvin Hein sorry to be that guy, but 100 words per minute is insanely slow speech tempo. An ordinary person talks at about 130-140 so Ben Shapiro probably speaks at like 180
Keller Logistics is one of the largest logistics/transportation operations in America with a massive fleet of trucks. When speaking with several representatives of the organization, I asked about the rise of automation and the future of their company / as in are you guys going to en masse switch over? Paraphrasing here but they said, "Absolutely not, but even if we were too, by law, a human being would still need to be in the vehicle whenever it is being operated/on the job." So regarding the trucker argument being a main one for UBI, the need for "truckers" would still exist, regardless of the truck being fully automated or not.
Software engineer for a cyber-security company, formerly spent years with a DOD aerospace company. Autopilot was first created in 1912. Still have and need pilots today. Much respect to our truckers who work to quickly deliver the things we need! Society will go on.
@@mr.centrist5789 it has and will continue to happen fairly slow, it's not such a drastic issue. Anyone in almost any career needs to stay aware of how their industry is evolving...and either adapt/learn with the times, or move to a different line of work. That's kind of always been true, just happening faster now, and the times of manual, repetitive, mindless labor are shrinking...not a bad thing, just time to adapt and grow.
@@rockstarvedme I'd suggest you re-evaluate the pace of automation technology and then come to realize, in the next 15 years, alot of menial jobs will just no longer exist. Its not gonna take 30+ years like some people say, its happening much sooner. Fast food workers, Cashiers, Stock guys, Security, Factory work (Already there LMAO!), Office jobs (Data input and other simple office jobs, accounting for multimillion dollars would still be humans), Drivers/Driving. All of that is going the way of the horse-drawn carriage. Put to the side and only ever used anymore for the novelty of making living creatures do menial work.
Ben “idonthavetimeforspacebars” shapiro
armando rascon lmao
Look up some songs by Bones
Hahahaaa
#1 best comment ever 🤣🤣🤣
@@realname3538 bone thugs and harmony you mean?
“I know you all lost your jobs. Here’s a thousand dollars.”
That aged poorly
It really did
*every month
Well they force people to stop working so you either feed the people or said people will have your head on a pike
@@ianlilley2577 yeah you can't just lock down the country and then not do a ubi, rent freeze, mortgage freeze, etc.
@@vanad1um665 unless you want a revolt, but generally people revolting against you isn't very good for your health
The fact that basic conversations like this are praised speaks volumes of where we are as a society
Exactly and it’s sad. I once had a talk with a person at my college who was a primarily liberal person and I myself am conservative (all differences aside) the whole time we were speaking, there was this one thing that we both agreed on and were shocked about and that was how we both were finally able to find another person who would actually speak to the other without commencing into an ape-like tribal battle.
@@aaronrodgers5852 - the two party system has dumbed America down by unfathomable measures.
@@mattcarberry368 this
Who do you know is having this convo? Donut
@@mattcarberry368 And social media.. Conversations like this happen everyday, just not often on the internet (unless you know where to look) because it’s not dance videos or someone “getting owned.” It’s sad, but that’s what holds the attention of this dumbed down society.
This is how opposing views should be expressed, it's so much more beneficial than yelling over each other
@Jacobson Dan Alexander He’s definitely not conservative…
@Jacobson Dan Alexander And you don’t understand Communism(Which you assumed I was), talk about a ❄️…
@Jacobson Dan Alexander I wouldn’t say he’s not left or not right wing I think he’s a healthy mixture of both which I think is the most beneficial for society as a whole
@@stevonwhite8933 100 million dead. Tienanmen square. Cuban Refugees and the Uighur Genocide
@@jeremychicken3339 ok how many dead cuz of slavery? Racism? American imperialism? A wasted war in the middle east that now they're realizing o shit we can't win this ever. No matter who we try to prop up. Almost like this has happened before. Vietnam anyone? Stfu blood is on both sides.
“I haven’t really looked into this much except talking to Andrew Yang and Elon Musk” like imagine being able to say that
U Just did
ScrapMetal 1 Joe said that not Ben
Lol
Yea, they're both right wing morons.
@@aaancom shut up idiot
One of the main issues with the disability program, as Yang has stated, is that people on disability are under constant governmental and societal scrutiny. If they go out and get a part time job, they suddenly appear fully able bodied and risk losing their disability. With UBI, it would be condition free. It would urge more people living on disability to apply themselves and find jobs/volunteer work without the risk of shame/being kicked off the program.
Mac lethal????? What the fuck didnt expect to see you here lmao good to see ya
JJoe Wait, do you think that by saying UBI is “debunked“ actually makes it so?
Holy crap! Nice to see you, Mac!
Mac is the man!
i love this dumb idealogy. if you're working, you don't need to collect disability. my parents are both disabled and work without collecting it because there are people who are too disabled to work and need the money. if you can work at all, the point of disability is not for you.
I've literally told my trucker friend to learn to code and that's what he did. Now he's coder.
If you said it with a hashtag when you told him that twitter would consider you to be using hate speech lol
hahaHAHAHAHA
This is funny
If tell him to fuck off, would he be a fucker?
@Luis Velazquez a machine that inputs coffee and outputs (sometimes)functional computer talk
Thanks for having Ben Shapiro on. We need more societal debate and discussion among people of opposing views. Both are of you guys should be applauded. Very grown up dialogue. You guys give me hope.
Are you conservative
The thing is Shapiro actively tries to avoid situations like this where he's confronted on a level playing field. He much prefers the power dynamic he gets when he's on stage of the microphone and gets to interrupt college students
@@nigeladams8321 what the fuck? People ASK him to speak at colleges. People PAY him to go to the colleges. What are you on about? If Ben was really worried about that, he wouldn’t talk to someone as big as joe Rogan especially since joe Rogan has such a big audience. Your logic is honestly so flawed it seems like you have a complete lack of self and social awareness.
@@jclive2860 being paid to talk does not mean that you're smart. And arguing with college students while he's in control of the microphone does not make Ben look clever it makes him look pathetic
@@nigeladams8321uhhhhh. But he’s there. He did it. Avoid?
Ben Shapiro always looks and talks like he's 5 minutes late to catch a bus.
Underrated comment
he seems like someone who drank too much coffee and has to pee
To me it reminds me of how Gordon Ramsay talks and dances around in the kitchen.
Hahha this cracked me up
I read so many funny comments on CZcams recently
I am a single dad raising our 3 year old. Its not just women who get burned but that's all we hear about.
J B you are a good man. Your son or daughter will be thankful
Truth brother. Single fulltime dad here too. "We" Don't exist, sadly.
@@ns7353 thanks kindly friend .That is my goal
@@Tidewater_paddler my name is Justin also and good on ya man .We are the uncounted
J B Nobody says women are the only ones burned out.
Bens right about being on dissability. It's not like I do all the hobbies or desires or passions that I would like to do. It's really just going from bill to bill.
Exactly paying somebody $12,000 a year just because they live in the country isn’t going to entice them to do any more it’s going to actually allow them to do less. If somebody has a lot of money and a purpose they don’t just go start doing stuff with that money if we give people a purpose even without the money they’ll go and I’ll do some thing if that makes any sense
There's more factors to this, education and so on like you've been taught math doesn't mean you can't be taught basic personal finance or at least have government agencies help with ubi distribution
I lost my job because of lockdown and haven't had any new opportunities since. Decided it was time to start growing weed. Its lockdown proof. Its cash only with no tax, I work from home and I keep people happy. Best decision my government made for me.
Me too, best idea I have ever had.
Cheers!
Reporting u to the authorities
Reporting you to Jesus.
Same brother 💪🌱
I think what Ben is missing is how the current welfare system disincentivizes, even punishes individuals for improving their lot. I’ve seen firsthand how Social Security keeps my special needs sister in a chokehold- if she tried to get a job more than likely she will make over the meager monthly cap & lose her SSI benefits. As an intellectually disabled person with a limited skill set, it’s not easy to find the right job or a flexible employer so she cannot take that risk. Just working at a movie theater one year her income exceeded what she was “allowed” to make, so she spent the next year paying back SSI. Similarly, disadvantaged people have to weigh the risks of getting a poor paying job they could lose any day, & end up losing welfare too. With UBI, at least it’s no strings attached, & no fall-out from trying to get ahead. There is also an intrinsic dignity & sense of autonomy since you’ve been entrusted to do whatever you feel is in your own best interests. It’s a completely different animal in my view.
originallimu well said
#ConservativesWithRealStoriesWhyWereProgressive
originallimu, Im curious as to what the minimum wage is where you are? Here in Maryland the state minimum wage is $10.10/hour (Federal minimum wage is $7.25). Here in Maryland it would take 4.5 hours a week for a month to gross $180 and at the federal rate it would take 6.2 hours a week for a month. I agree with it being bullshit that there is a cap on income to receive benefits. SSI shouldn’t be given based on income. We pay into it for the benefit of being secure socially in case of disability or some extenuating case. It’s insurance and it’s one of the great scams our nation plays out on its citizens. It’s like your never allowed to have it easy ever in life even if only for a moment. Heaven for mind you get a little more than your supposed to, then you get punished and have to pay it back with interest, but our government can go ahead and take from that fund whenever they want without repercussion. It’s a messed up system in deed.
Well, I have to ask. How would her movie theater wages have compared to SS had she not stopped working?
We need a welfare that is temporary and incentivizing for growth.
Joe "UBI can buy a lot of DMT" Rogan
That is offensive to my culture.
Well fuck your culture lol
This guy talks like going to church would help someone quit a drug that creates so much pain in withdrawal that most users kill themselves before getting through being sick from stopping. It’s just unrealistic to expect someone to quit drugs that cause seizures and death from stopping. These people are homeless and use drugs because it’s a better life than working all day for minimum wage and living in a house that isn’t much better than a tent in the first place.
@@domnoya4130 Not really as simple as “going to church will immediately help you get off drugs” it’s if you find a deeper meaning in your life (a job, family that matters to you etc) you will feel more purpose & more likely to beat the drugs. Especially when you instill that purpose into your children then they are less likely to be in that position. Next thing you know in one generation your family could go from poor drug attics to at least people who are striving to better theirselves. Ben just used the example of church as the vehicle to do that
@@rynemorse9014 did you even read what he said withdrawal causes seizures idiot
When people loose jobs they loose purpose! Very true!!! I've been on unemployment for 9 months due to Covid and I feel the depression getting deeper. Keeping busy in a purposeful way is sooo crucial for society!
If you believe in the Bible, even Adam and Eve worked in the garden, which was literally a perfect world. Work gives human beings purpose. That’s how God designed us.
Lose*
@@MrWilly2204 who designed God?
@@BC4SelfImprovement God has no beginning and no end. He’s always existed. Your question is irrelevant.
@@MrWilly2204 how do you know? Oh right belief
“They turned the frickin frog gay” is something I never thought I would hear Ben Shapiro say
Joe “I’m not going to bring up elk meat on this episode” Rogan
Underrated
420 Likes so I commented instead.
its... entirely possible... 100% entirely possible that he does
Don't know this meme but I'm still lolling
Christian Perez or about how all dogs came from wolves
I like how joe Rogan actually challenges Ben and maintains not just civility, but forces a dialogue.
Not force. Ben is always willing to have a dialogue . On his interview he has had some left leaning people on and he lets them speak and is very deferential. He is like that on his interview show because as he says the point is to hear from the interview guest.
spoken like someone who's never actually heard Ben speak. when he speaks at colleges he literally wants the people who disagree with him at the front of the line. i love how Liberals think every conservative his just some loud mouthed idiot who won't let anyone talk, we want to speak with you! we want to debate your stupid opinions! its you guys who never want to talk to us
@@evenhartwick4422 and I’m sure not all liberals think of you as loud mouth idiots
@@evenhartwick4422 I love how you took a genuine compliment and turned it into something negative.
@@huggz7543 and then he wonders why no one wants to talk to him lmao. Cant fix stupid
I would love Ben Shapiro to discuss the cost of keeping someone in jail lol
5.56 and .223 are so much cheaper
if they're violent criminals, measure it against the cost of the crimes they'll commit if you let them out. I guarantee you prison is cheaper. No one ever seems to analyze it in those terms.
Not when that becomes the norm.
@@EpicAsshole Yes it does! Especially if it becomes the norm.
@@brucetucker4847 completely true. But there's def a middle ground where violent offenders should be kept off the streets but nonviolent offenders should be given better sentences and more opportunities. For example, theres no reason anyone should be in prison for drug possession.
My parents had just turned 17, my mom litterally 1 week before my sister was born... over a month early and blind. They both dropped out of high school, my dad went to work as a mechanic and my mom stayed home. By the time they were 22, they had 3 kids, 2 of whom were blind, but they didn't feel that they could demand our completion of school if neither of them had done it, so as the youngest, when I was around 5 or 6, they both went back to night school and completed their educations. After that, my dad got his college degree from home, all while working 50 or more hours a week. Yes, people make mistakes, but when you get pregnant, it's time to start adulting. Sex is an adult activity, so if you're not adult enough to take on the possible consequences of it, you're not adult enough to do it. Sometimes you have to sacrifice, whether it's money, education, dreams, but someone who isn't willing to sacrifice for the good of their children needs to work on how to be a good human. My parents are still together 45 years later. They are happy and successful with my dad just a few years from a well deserved retirement. They both grew up very poor, children of manual laborers with stay at home moms. They put off their needs and wants to make sure we kids had new school clothes and occasionally things like expensive sneakers. They're empty nesters now, with 3 happy and successful children and they're living the dream. If you make a baby, take care of it before yourself. Pretty simple.
That is an amazing and uplifting story, but the situation now is waaaaayyy different. For example, in the 1960s, it would've cost ~100,000 of TODAYS moneys to buy a home, where as the same home is now selling for ~220,000.
@@A55VOILATOR Average salary in 1960 was $5,600 now it is $44,225. That's a ratio of 17,86 to 4,97 which means that it is 3,59x cheaper to buy a house today. So yes, you are right when you say the situation is waaaaayyy different. Because it is easier.
@@monkelifter well said. the math is there. and who says you're entitled to owning property?
renting isnt great, but if you didnt invest in yourself the same degree as a person who became an accountant or welder why should you get the same home ownership reward?
@@slchance8839 exactly
@@monkelifter lol what? it's not easier at all, housing is a serious issue for my generation. How old are you?
joe "resist the temptation to bring up dmt" rogan
How long are people like you going to beat that horse. That shit it's soooooo old. It lost its humor the first day.
@@jamespowell7231 dude dmt lmao
Damn never heard a Joe Rogan DMT joke before
@@jamespowell7231 Ha, that shit never gets old!
I'm a kid who gets triggered everytime my internet dad mentions DMT..
Nobody can live on 12k a year. 1k is meant to be a crutch for people to transition in this economy.
Why is it okay for Americans to receive a Universal Basic Income but we still have slave labour making clothes for us in China?
There is nothing Universal about it.
It is actually a National Basic Income...
Alexander Schmall it’s not America’s job to fix China lmao
Alexander Schmall nigga huh
There is no crutch for stupidity
Alexander Schmall It’s called The Freedom Dividend, a version of UBI.
I love when these two get together. I hope to keep seeing Ben on this show regularly.
Ben "this headset fits my kippa perfectly" Shapiro
😂😂😂😂😂😂
when Shapiro says "they turned the frogs gay" you can see Joe have a flashback to the Alex Jones interview
Human pheromones. They used them in the Vietnam war. Know ur history. Without it u wont know shit ad to why things are intentionally the way they are
Joe Rogan is not allowed to talk about that.
He didn't laugh, because he is not suppose to encourage anything to do with the government's agenda to turn everyone gay to destabilize the Family.
Because the American Family from the 1900s was a structure where a Mom and Dad both passed on knowledge and Wisdom to their genetic offspring.
And the New World Order can't take over the world without taking over people's minds, and they can't take over people's minds if everyone got knowledge of the truth about this world and wisdom from both their Mom and Dad.
So the whole putting chemicals in the water to cause a hormonal imbalance in people to turn the human population gay, is to end the traditional Family, to stop knowledge and wisdom from passing down to the next Generation.
To dumb down society.
And to take away high testosterone, which is known by the radical left as toxic masculinity.
You know masculinity, that thing that makes Men brave enough to stand up against a tyrannical government.
So Joe Rogan can't talk about that.
Or he loses his job if he talks about anything to do with the gay agenda.
Joe is not a sell out as much as he is scared of the people that rule the world, because Joe has a lot to lose.
So he is doing the smart thing to do.
Not the right thing to do by keeping his mouth shut, but the smart thing to do is for him to keep his mouth shut so that he can keep his job, house, cars, bank account, and wife and kids.
You would keep your mouth shut too if you were Joe and you loved your Family.
"I know I'm alittle retarded".
-Alex Jones
@DeadMemes NeedToStayDead Your reply is to vague, not specific enough, in the sense that you are not making it clear what exactly I said that you are replying to. I don't know the context of your reply, I don't know what you are replying to, so I don't get what you're saying.
As for our brain being programmable, well you do know that our brain is nothing more than an organic computer, with software and apps aka education and skills, and yes there are some misinformation and misunderstanding aka viruses in our minds that pollute the rest of the accurate information floating around in our synapses.
Haven't you ever heard of Television programming?
They can program your brain like a coder computer scientist can program a computer.
Human beings are not inherently stupid, that is a new phenomenon, caused by TV, news propaganda, movie propaganda, and yes, even propaganda in textbooks in the public schools we go to.
Here is the neat thing about being human, you can program yourself by studying to become whoever you want in life.
1 person can read the Bible, another person to Koran, another the Torah, another the Buddhist Bible Tripotaka, another a course on evolutionary biology. Another 4 years in college physics another in ancient History. And 90% of the population will take a course on Hollywood propaganda.
We all choose what we study, we are always learning.
Joe Rogan is no different, he learned a lot of truth and lot of bullshit too.
It's hard to admit when you ate wrong.
If you learn anything from me, know this.
We are all organic computers, and all of us, including you and me, and Joe Rogan and Stephen Hawking, and Richard Dawkins, the President, the Pope and the Queen.
ALL of US.
WE have all been programmed with truth and lies at the same time.
I don't what I believe is true that might be incorrect, and what I believe is correct that might be a lie that someone said at some point in History that I now to be truth.
And you Sir, you don't know for sure if everything you believe is actually true.
There is 3 sides to every story.
The truth, the lie, and the real reason based on money.
At the end of the day Joe is loyal to money more than he loyal to you.
Truth and lies, that's irrelevant.
Money, profit, obtaining resources 9 out of 10 is everyone's primary motive to do and say what they do and say.
If money didn't exist, 99% of lies ever made in the History of Humanity would never have been said or written.
Everyone is an opportunist, except for your Mom and if you're lucky enough to grow up with your biological Dad, than in life you can only trust your Mom and Dad who bought you into this world, and your Body is part of theirs.
So since they are loyal to themselves chances are that they are loyal to your wellbeing.
But apart from your pparents who sincerely love you, no one else in this world has your best interest in mind 100% of the time.
Trust no one!
Because everyone's loyalty is to money, not to you.
Vincent There are conspiracies, and there are conspiracy theories. There’s conspiracy theorists too. I say with this with all the humanly concern and seriousness I can muster, are you off your meds? If so please take them.
"Learn to code is something to mock people with".
Me a coder: *cries in background*
Imagine how I feel when they talk about the threat of automation (as an AI researcher/engineer)
@@robalexnat what does your research, and the study that got you into it, focus on specifically? I'm an undergrad newbie studying various subjects related to artificial intelligence, and I really want to hear from people working in those fields and what they think about the control problem, industry automation, and so on. Thanks.
@@joshuaboulton36 cool, where/what are you studying? if ure interested in AI i recommend a v strong foundation in math (namely: Discrete, Linear, Calc, Probability and Stats for starters). Also what control problem are you referring to?
@@robalexnat I'm a philosophy major in New Zealand, but I include other subjects in my degree program, and have studied software development in the past. For example I've done some discrete math, calculus, linear algebra, and full stack software engineering. This semester I've studying cognitive psychology, Turing, and epistemology and metaphysics. I have courses in automata, logic, discrete math, algorithms, AI programming, Chinese politics, economics, and a few others planned for the rest of my degree, but have already started studying these things by myself. The rest are in most subfields of philosophy.
By 'control problem' I'm referring broadly to the concerns of individuals like Nick Bostrom, regarding our ability to handle potential dangers of artificial and/or superintelligences in the future.
My main interests in philosophy are epistemology, metaphysics, philosophy of mathematics, philosophy of science, logic, metaethics, philosophy of language (ish - think Wittgenstein etc.), philosophy of mind, and, well, philosophy of artificial intelligence.
@@joshuaboulton36 just saw this. those seem a lot of diverse subjects for an undergrad, im not sure how deep you're going into each considering they are p dense fields. that being said im glad youve taken an interest as it will benefit u in a larger scope, I too studied cognitive psych in my free time for different reasons and believe it helps in our decision making. For the control problem, really isnt a problem is it? You will have the first few to reach the singularity to try and abuse it. However like any successful arms race, there is more than one. The implication I feel is a greater danger of governmental control over citizens, and since governments are made of humans that change, at what point are we being run by the AI? But you can argue the same things about the systems we have in place already: and the truth is is that its a very potent and powerful weapon, but one that also works for what it is programmed. Fortunately, most who can harness that power arent in search of anarchy, however instead we face the danger of 24/7 surveillance, and with integrated tech, being able to read our minds soon, as well. Just some food for thought, if you wanna chat here is my email: robjrm@gmail.com
I find it interesting that Ben is critical of UBI basing its success on people making the right decisions with money (they'd use it in ways that benefits nobody) but he also bases the concept of proper child raising by the parents staying together (even though one could be abusive, a drug addict, etc).
Basically, both are hopeful that a good scenario plays out for them to work and both can fail because they don't.
I like how Joe brings up the fact that there are people who need it and will use it wisely. Two words. Personal responsibility.
It’s the same argument about winning the lottery and losing it all like an idiot, some people will and some won’t. Personal responsibility. Some people actually would appreciate the opportunity
yeah some people are at )0 . They can't move when there at 0
@Lujack Shaw How do you know that? If there's no restrictions, some people will feed their addictions. Young people who've never worked before may waste it, since they didn't earn the money themselves and don't appreciate the value.
Most don't. When the most prove to be a problem over the few, sorry the few, you're SOL.
Ben "theyre not writing poems, theyre doing opioids" Shapiro
They dont realize that every opioid is it's own poem, maaaaaan.
Ben is so fucking lost man.. ofc they dont. Ubi hasnt been implemented yet. When it does, they will.
@gillysuit2 im on all kinds of drugs. And i am also a music producer. I am a painter (art). I play football. I love life. I do all kinds of drugs. What do you base your shit on? Government propaganda?
@@INeedsMoneys You probably had art and music tendencies and urges before you went down the drug rabbit hole. Hes trying to say that people that are not musically or art inclined will all of a sudden start producing this with more money
Wtf why can't these people just find hobbies? Stop indirectly forcing everyone to work shitty 40-hour jobs, fuck.
UBI isn't the solution... it's an ingredient
Yang has repeatedly said that it was a foundation, not THE solution
It depends on what the problem is. If you're talking potential anarchy and social upheaval, then UBI solves that.
The Reason Why Guy
UBI does nothing for people crippled by depression or smothered with a lack of purpose, only social programs can help those issues.
Give an alcoholic an extra thousand dollars and they will just make themselves more drunk, extra money won’t deal with their problems.
More people in the poorest areas of America will just get robbed more once a month, those who get to spend the money won’t spend it better because no one has shown them how.
These are generalizations of course, but we need to deal with the general issues and THEN the specialized cases.
People need purpose and a society that values purpose driven people.
Government can’t do that well.
Yang wants to do what politicians have always done - throw money at a problem until it fixes itself.
Controversial opinion incoming btw
I feel that the best way to run a nation is for the nations government to be the primary employer. Of course you need international businesses to keep markets flowing but small businesses should be operated by a just government. Instead of having a welfare system in place (or like our Australian system Centerlink works) these people would instead be offered a variety of potential jobs created by the government and these can range from mining, clerical (desk jobs) , manufacturing, refining, teaching, marketing and research. They can choose any of these available jobs and the starting rates are all identical. When you climb the corporate ladder in each job your pay increases. Those who refuse to work are given minimal pay but will never have their options taken from them.
With this kind of system in place it would allow these people who want to seek out work and purpose an easier transition into work while also giving them valuable experience.
The reason these programs need to be government operated is bc it allows the government to tailor its demographics by setting what jobs are available. (Assuming the government isn’t inept but if we can ignore the financial issues with UBI we can ignore this).
Additionally these government workplaces will be extremely profitable to the nation as all profits that don’t go into wages, maintenance and expansion go directly to the government. Essentially it’s a 100% tax rate.
Also with politically operated industry it would allow for the individual workers more power in corporate matters as the leaders of these workplaces would be elected by the people and not shareholders. I’m willing to discuss more benefits in a book I’m writing called “The Rationalist Manifesto”. Which is the best attempt I can make at a perfect political system which I feel is balancing rationality (science and debate) with nationalism (strong morals and drive to better the state)
I would very much enjoy a reply even if you just call me a faggot :)
Jake Neylon
I won’t call you a faggot unless you’re a bundle of sticks or see that word as empowering, I don’t even use it on homosexuals I despise.
I see the government’s ability to run businesses in the American DMV and the VA centers, both plagued with bureaucrats and inefficient practices to keep themselves in their positions with no care to the people they should be helping.
The most competent and effective workers/bosses are glossed over so that the most shrewd or conniving get ahead - this is not because of actual corruption but because moral/just people accept reality while those without such encumbrances can lie to their heart’s content and really, who wants to hear an ugly truth over a pretty lie?
Now, apply that to the whole government-business you’re proposing.
How about this for a counter offer:
A government focused on the creation and protection of small businesses.
Let’s pick an arbitrary amount - a million dollars - as the maximum a company can be worth until the government steps in and makes demands about restructuring and making space for more competition in the market.
This would create the best system for ambitious and inventive entrepreneurs.
Large corporations would be gutted, leaving a space for anyone who wishes to make it in any field.
Massive chains of businesses will either be closed or restructured into smaller restaurants.
Target, Walmart, Publix - all those stores will not exist as they are now.
For the average worker, this is the best scenario - anyone could be one promotion or innovation away from being a success!
International businesses would have to adopt this style of business if they wanted to continue serving Americans, which could open several opportunities for our citizens when the markets begin to recover from the inevitable instability that will result from the change in market design.
The most important thing:
It provides an avenue for EVERYONE to have purpose in their lives AND puts a ceiling on success that ANYONE could reach with drive and ambition (short of the absolute bottom 1%, but neither of our programs explicitly help them anyway).
If that’s too far, we can make it where a tax increase is added as the company becomes more successful to disincentivize massive corporations.
Large enough companies would suffer considerably, making way for smaller businesses to work while the near monopolies are throttled.
Punishing the big bullies while allowing the small guy to succeed - the American dream.
I’ll call it the New American Plan, find it in all fine book stores around the time of my presidential candidacy.
$1000.00/mo for every adult over 18 would be a MASSIVE failure... crime, civic problems, food shortages, human trafficking, etc. Money will not resolve these soc problems ...
It’s basic economics that if government gives everyone x amount of money, then that becomes the new 0 😅
and that's a bad thing?
@@absynthe8840 It is simply no thing. It wouldn't make a difference in the long term.
@@absynthe8840 yes
At one of my first jobs as an accountant, there was an older man who scoffed at the idea of "tech" taking away the human element. Fast forward 10 years and we ask every entry candidate what is your familiarity with any type code or data mining/anlysis. Learn to code....even the basic levels.
Ben "didn't try to agrue these point in front of Andrew Yang" Shapiro
atleast he come to ben's show bcoz yang hopes ben wont confront his ideology
It's called, "picking your battles." When you present a valid counter to someone who has written a book on their philosophy, the writer grasps at straws, creates false comparisons, and becomes angry. This is not what you want to do when hosting a guest. Ben is simply being courteous during his interactions with Yang. Go watch the video, you will see that he DID touch on these arguments in a very respectful way.
His Daily Wired appearance was an interview, not a debate
Glad because we were able to hear Yang elaborate In other aspects that was a very good interview
People are either missing the point or just don't want to understand it. Yang is a genius, literally a genius. Ben didn't really counter his idea because Yang would have owned him!
Ben always sounds like his voice is going 1.5 x’s normal speed.
If you slow the video down ben shapiro speaks backwards it's weird
I agree with Ben on this one. I was an accident baby lol my parents had a shot gun wedding and 2yrs later they divorced. My dad always blamed my mom for "getting pregnant." My dad is a traditional guy and my mom was a party girl. He was an idiot for not taking responsibility for not using a condom and she was an idiot for having raw sex with a guy she hardly knew. As a result, I grew up with a dad either in Germany or across the country (Army). My mom was out working, NEVER took welfare and I been cooking and cleaning for myself since I was 6. I was ALWAYS alone and unattended. No one to be there emotionally, no help with school work, no one to monitor my safety, and I was literally alone all day except for when I went to school. Where I had to walk rain, snow or shine. Past drug dealers and gang members; alone. When my mom was off from work... she was busy partying and dating new guys. Apart of me can't imagine my parents together because my dad is traditional and my mom... not lol but wish they put those issues aside for the sake of not leaving me neglected. There was no physical or drug abuse. Problems that I think are not big problems. Wish people thought of those things before bringing children in the world.
my story is almost the same without the drug dealers and my parents were married but they were gone working all the time ... so I was left on my own most of the time ... going to school all that but I have good memories from this and it made me more self sufficient ... so your upbringing is a negative memory for you and for me it was like Tom Sawyer, Huckleberry Finn, and I stopped blaming my parents a long long time ago ...
@@ifoundthistoday I stop blaming my parents a long time ago but I do share my experiences with young adults. I learned from my parents mistakes and tried to do better for my kids.
@@bayamonrican good man !
@Rich Smith paradox
The Church WANTS to force people into childbirth and marriage. Otherwise we'd have contraceptives that WORKED, but the church puts the damper on it.
Actually with UBI, people will pursue their interest, what they really want in life.. Not everyone is a fan of being employed, having to work 9-5 is exhausting... Most people want to be free from corporate slavery.. and focus more in all areas of health and choose to become happy.. the goal is financial freedom.
Again that’s foolish to say that will just overall be good for the individuals and the country as a whole. We can’t all be making a living as an artist, that will destroy our country even through just a basic policy level. Also have you seen the top level artists of our country? These guys are millionaires and are still dealing with extreme depression, and drug dependency. Most people can’t handle that level of success or the isolation that it takes to be a unique artist.
Not particularly. If you have a job, your wage is determined based on the value that you as an individual bring to the work place. If you work at say mcdonald’s making 14 an hour your work is alienable at lower rates compared to an individual writing complex code for say google.
Lmao you poor thing
Wonderful to see two people calmly discuss and debate real solutions to real societal problems!
Yea the US probably wont have some rare black swan event that leads to a huge spike in unemployment and causes the government to send out checks......that would be crazy!
Haha, timing..
"you shall have UBI or you shall starve"
Soon we'll get paid in sacks of rice.
Aged like milk
The US, like Canada, like the UK and the rest of the free world are now under an 'invented and globally staged EVENT' that will hasten the next phase of human enslavement that is U.B.I.
This has aged well
Well, hindsight is 2020, after all. Shapiro specifically mentioned that with respect to people becoming unemployed due to automation though.
Gotta keep everything in context.
Bruh, he does sounds like the memes
And so do you "bruh".
@Héctor Z holy fuck yes!! I can’t unhear it now! Is Alex Jones Patrick? Or is Joe)
@@7Jstamper jibing jbj
@@dregzz7678 Well said my guy
@@7Jstamper lmaoo wtf is this i dont remember typing that
Being a child from a broken home, I agree with Ben. Take responsibility for your child, deal with the person whom you temporarily had affection for (resulting in another human being) and realize that providing your kid with a stable, respectful, and RATIONAL place to learn how to be a person, is more important than your ego for a limited time. Broken relationships due to ego will only produce ASSHOLE children... like me
Atleast you accidentally blamed yourself , you’ll get their eventually once you realize it’s you’re fault you’re an ass
86% of people dislike their work, yet these disliked jobs are their purpose in life? Hmm.
No it makes sense. That job may suck, but it keeps you off the streets, to put on the table. Without it your screwed.
It's a reason to get up and go. The purpose derived from that check is usually being the provider.
Why should ug have to kill elk. Not make ug happy. Ug not want kill elk. -A caveman who died of starvation
The basic purpose of life is survival of self and of species - food, shelter, procreation. A job provides money which provides food and shelter for ourselves and our offspring. We all want to "like" our jobs ideally, but that is far secondary to survival and is actually a complete luxury.
@@JCW80 We exist in order to exist, eh? Wow, that's persuasive and insightful. You cured my existential dread!
casual.. I don't know much about this, I just spoke with Elon Musk about it..
its a bad ass name drop though.
rob saxon sure, if youre a scrub and are swayed by an appeal to authority argument
@The Other Point Of View you must have really low expectations of people then. Any person should be encouraged to partake in these sorts of discussions. Maybe you don't understand because you aren't a very smart person? Or you don't agree with Ben's opinion and wish he wouldn't voice it? Kind of ironic you're watching a podcaster that actively encourages open dialogue between people.
Joe Rogan literally had a presidential candidate who runs on UBI on his show
As a huge fan of Elon Musk, I think Ben is right on this issue.
Remember, the fear of automation and the general loss of all human jobs is now over 100 years old and has not come to fruition yet. These are the same fears that led people to destroy printing presses.
Crazy to come back to this now that everyones been on unemployment a year
I'm a trucker whose learning to code and I'm loving it.
Fuck yea dude
learn to grammar
@@prenomnom6203 thanks :)
Good job. But if everyone did that, you would be out of a job
We dont need no obligatory education. Everyone should have the right to choose. We were obligated to be born. Ps: I am Mechatronics Engineering student.
I feel like Ben Shapiro has a problem with everything.
this is what happens when you don't have real big problems in your own personal life. and a lot of times it's because you come from privilege.
gb997 what😂😂
Your mom has a problem with everything.
xTronKillmaster
ooh got ‘em
Damn, xTronKillmaster out here with the sick burns.
with extra money I’d be creating art
Your Profile creeps me out
I think the concern about the future of automation is that AI systems change the equation. New tech did always used to just become an "aid" for people to do work and if it meant that 1 person could do the work that 4 people used to do it was more likely that there would be 4x more productivity than 4x less jobs. But AI systems change that because it IS doing the job, not just providing tools to do the job. An AI agent repalces a worker in a way that we haven't yet really experienced ever. And that shouldn't be dismissed like this.
I would’ve absolutely loved to see Elon Musk and Ben Shapiro discuss this subject one on one
Vault 614 well.. it’s more and more likely to happen with the internet. Thank you internet.
@@aron6998
You're a commie
Vault 614 he ain’t just powerful lol what you
think he’s stupid and reached that level of wealth and power
@@astayunothefirsr1847 Yea he's clearly a smart guy but he portrays his views quite arrogantly too. Some of his ideas are a bit whacky and just because you think he's intelligent doesn't mean you can't challenge him.
@@astayunothefirsr1847 you don't have to be that smart. you just need to be smarter than a million other people, which is reasonably feasible for a lot of people
life tip: We all gotta work, true, but work should not be your purpose, at best they should align.
I mean this is an interesting topic. I think what work is essentially the modern world's supplement to what would've been your role as a tribal member 50,000 years ago. My guess is, what you did for "work" in the tribe gave you purpose, because the fruits of your labor were tangible, in that it directly affected the people of your community eg. (hunting,farming,teaching kids). So I think people may be hardwired to expect what they do to give them meaning, because that is the world the human brain evolved in. Since we are largely disconnected from our work, we don't really know the people whom our work affects, it cannot provide that sense of meaning. So people are left trying to supplement that need for meaning elsewhere. Perhaps you could say though that this is an opportunity for people to find purpose on a deeper level, but I wonder if that is essentially, expecting the biology of your brain to change.
life tip: free money from the government won't cure your drug addiction.
Amatthew123 Shore
Yuon Flemming well no shit. But you don’t deserve money for breathing. Learn a skill or a trade that you love doing. “If you do what you love you will never work a day in your life.”
What should be our purpose, oh Enlightened One?
Question the statement that 'when people lose jobs they lose purpose.' I believe purpose is not necessarily always tied to your work and purpose can come from other things such as intellectual pursuits, physical pursuits, and personal pursuits such as travel or raising a family. People don't always need a job to have a purpose.
I used to say "My job is not my life, my job is how I pay for my life".
I am that single mom they're describing. Getting set up is a struggle and I really wish I could just have some quick help but I don't want to live on a gov. free money system! I just want a little home to call my own and a job with school hours. I worked from home babysitting kids while my child was too young for school and then when he turned five I sent him to school and eventually found a job that had exactly the same hours as school including summer break. I think maybe a better system to put in place for single moms would be helping us all have those school hour jobs so we can provide for and parent our kids without missing out on those short precious years of their lives. It feels good to be able to say I'm earning my own money, when I had been on assistance in the past it felt awful.
The modern world is creating a perfect storm for catastrophic population decline because it's becoming impossible for normal people to raise children. In the past young parents could get married and establish themselves early, have 5 kids and a house by the age of 30. Because generations had kids in their 20s instead of 40s, and moved less, there were multiple generations in the same area so grandparents could raise kids while parents worked and vice versa. Now people graduate HS at 18, college at 22, start their first low-paid job in massive debt, pay off their debts at 35 maybe, buy a house at 40 if they're lucky, and finally be settled to raise kids. The timing is all wrong, it should be healthy and energetic 20-year-olds raising children with help from able 40-50 year-old grandparents; instead it's highly indebted 40-year-olds who are often divorced and isolated trying to raise children while also taking care of their 70-80-year-old decrepit grandparents.
Heres the answer, avoid being a single parent.
@@brianlogan4243 8th trimester abortion then? Lol
@@mavenesquith6825 No, but as a sexually experienced single man that has N O kids, anytime outside tragedy of course, that any woman gets pregnant, its because they wanted to get pregnant.
@@brianlogan4243 I will agree it can be avoided as I've avoided it ever since my first pregnancy but to say it's wanted may be a stretch. More like neglect was involved, as with me. Though I'd not change a thing, I was certainly not looking to get pregnant. I do agree there should be more effort in avoidance but there's a lot now already that can be helped with a little effort
The problem is America takes a cookie cutter approach to literally every issue.
💯💯💯
Exactly
Not foreign policy, then it’s a sledgehammer 🇺🇸
How dare you speak
I mean that's how governments generally work because they are made specifically to cater to the lowest common denominator
I've been alive 40 years. I've never had a job give me purpose. Having kids have me purpose, and I didn't learn that til 4 years ago.
Wasted a lot of life making others richer while fruitlessly searching for purpose.
I have kids and between me and you I fucking hate them. Biggest regret in my life
@@fortesfortunaadiuvat2181 I understand that. Society has done a horrible job preparing people for parenthood. I was in the fortunate position of having the means to do many of the things I thought might make me happy, and for long enough, to discover I was still empty. My advice is to forget about yourself to a great extent. Spend your energy helping them learn. Empathize with them and be patient. Remember the things you struggled with coming up, and do what you can to make sure they don't have the same struggles. Be honest with them, even brutally, so they can always trust you. Look for opportunity you can provide them.
And then when they're teenagers they'll still hate you and think you're stupid anyway. But as Jim Jeffries says, then they'll look like the asshole
Martin Polly well don’t show that to your kids, allow them to grow up in a healthy environment and affirm to them that they can be very rich and successful, it can be the greatest investment when your kids don’t put you in a retirement home when your too old to help yourself. Take care
cool story bro
@@jolttsp I'm 37. I've been working low skilled jobs from age 16 - 32 and they never gave me purpose. However I've finally got a job as a software developer and it gives me a sense of pride. Not just because of a pay increase but because I'm building something really neat as opposed to the boring assembly line I was working in my 5 years.
Raising taxes for people with more money is wrong
Something's gotta give. Automation continually eats up jobs it's only a matter of time before some kind of adjustment has to be made.
One of the great ironies of history: the social welfare state that is detested by US conservatives was created by a conservative-Otto Von Bismarck. And he created it to prevent socialism. He saw that many were having trouble adjusting to the industrializing economy, and how that could allow socialist agitators to encourage revolution, so he decided to give the people a tangible demonstration that their government was on their side and would support them in time of need, effectively cutting the legs out from under the socialists. Genius.
@A M Impossible because anything that reduces costs/expenses will be embraced by businesses. It's a kind of evolution / selection.
I support automation in the public sector. Secretary of State, DMV, licensing departments, etc. There are so many government jobs that should automated. Government workers contribute nothing to society, they're burden to it. Force them into the private sector by automating away their jobs.
Yes and no.
It’s a cop out on instead of pushing for closing the skills gap. We have more jobs than unemployment individuals.
THE FIRST step should be EDUCATION not free handouts. I’m not completely against the IDEA of UBI but the current way it is being pushed is not going to work.
Once the boomers all retire we’ll have even more open jobs AND less issues with the older generation not being tech savvy enough to stay employed in their 50’s.
@@nathanhedglin931 It's just going to keep getting worse. You are speaking as if it isn't. There is already AI which does some white collar work just as well as humans and faster. Note that in my comment I said, "... it's only a matter of time.". Take a look online for other info. ABCD
If ben spoke spanish that fast my head would explode
That's how Spanish sounds
they are called Cubans and Chileans
lmfao
czcams.com/video/rV4izBSq9ng/video.html this guy can rattle off non sense pretty fast. If you can understand what he's saying he's actually hilarious :'D
@@What7641 I'm half Cuban, half Puerto Rican and grew up near a lot of Dominicans... I still don't know what the fuck Chileans are saying XD
Ben "Don't put it there without that thing on it" Shapiro
John G Ben “it’s no f ing science” Shapiro
If you like it then you better put that thing on it, if you like it then you better put that thing on it - benyonce
But my peepee feels nothing if i put a rubber on it....*sad face*
@@neoncorolla6917 LOL
@Absolute Mad Lad There's no such thing as Palestinians, they're just Arabs.
I lost my job last year, haven't been able to find one since.. my son told me to learn to code lol I dont even know what code is lol
Excellent podcast. Id like to hear you dig deeper on these issues.
I respect joe. He aligns more with the left but he isn’t afraid to have a conversation with the opposing view point.
I keep waiting for Ben to say “But first”
"Let's talk about your "
Let's talk about your spouse,, but first, did you know my wife is a doctor
Longing for those sweet, sweet promo codes😆😆😆
New drinking game?
"Lets talk about you're sleep quality..."
The problem with UBI is very few people are really talking about "U" BI. Universal Basic Income is universal, as in everyone gets it, including people with a job, and billionaires like Elon Musk. Yes, it is possible that we will get to a point in time where automation is so good that very few people really "need" to work. Everyone gets $40K. The probable outcome is that some people will work and get rich. Some people will escape to space or whatever great frontier exists. Some people will pursue hobbies and other forms of work for entertainment. And some people will take their 40K, settle in to a 1BR apartment and play videogames and take drugs. Science Fiction authors have been speculating and modeling this for decades. I really don't think we are as close as some people think. I would guess at least 100 years.
Think you hit the nail on the head. It will make some lazy and this group will still 'feel' poor because of the hard working grafters who will go out and make more and have special 'privileges' what was that experiment where they gave all the poor people a load more income and most just spend it on alcohol and drugs?
Maybe we should try and build a greater sense of community so people actually start caring about their neighbors and their well being, and then vice versa? We've gone too far into individualism, we need a middle ground of individualism and collectivism. Everyone should be pushed to be the best they can be, because when everyone is like that, the group as a whole is better. Veterans often reminisce of the brotherhood and camaraderie they felt while serving; we can have that in civilian life too, we just have to work towards it together.
@@patriot9487 So, if I just want to mind my own business do you advocate the government come in and make me care about my neighbor? If not, how do you propose doing that? Maybe block parties, neighborhood BBQ? The problem with designing a system that relies on altruism is that it WILL (not might, will) be abused by some who act in their own self interest instead of the greater good. Those will rise to power and become dictators.
@@DragNetJoe Yaah democracy ain't so grand, so I don't really care if a strongman comes, it's GONNA happen here, just a matter of time. I like how people like you always instantly jump to "muh gubmint becoming stwonger" or "but what about me, ME, ME" instead of considering it's a cultural issue, and we need to change our culture.
@@patriot9487 Move to China. Seriously. They have what you want.
I always used to think Shapiro did the voice for Mandark in Dexter’s lab
What if we would just give everyone DMT?
Then there would be no more war.
Read "Brave New World". No bueno.
TrapTombstone was gonna reference that too.
We would all be better off! Less drugs, sadness, racism! #winwin 😇
Give everyone dynamite?
The reason disabled people are hooked on opioids isn't because they don't have jobs. They get prescribed opioids for their disabilities then get hooked.
they dont have jobs because they collect disability check
@@lorenaflores6563 Or maybe because they have two metal hips and a serious heart condition
@@zSnipebot my sons in a wheel chair and doesnt collect welfare yes a disabled minority whos gay and hes for trump explain that?
@@lorenaflores6563 yeah I'm gonna tell the blind man with liver disease to get off his lazy and go get a fucking job. And who gives a fuck who your son voted for lady
@@zSnipebot Seriously lol what she said was the most irrelevant shit in this whole comment section
I think the problem with Basic Income is that inflation will eat BI through time and with that more people will start to use BI, which will increase inflation and decrease production and savings.
There are a lot of people in this world who still don't grasp just how quickly A,I, technology is advancing and its effects on the job market. People always think it's only going to effect the unskilled , its not just unskilled workers who will be loosing their jobs due to A.I. in the near future, its also going to be skilled professionals too. Computer software programmes are already doing the same jobs faster and more efficient that used to be done by many highly educated highly paid office workers, Thats why its the people who are at the fore front of technology are talking about the concept of Universal basic Income, because they better that anyone else can see its long term effects. I agree with Ben on a lot of different subjects but even he has not grasped the effects advanced technology is going to have in the near future. But in fairness I don't think he's a tech nerd so like most people he doesn't quite see it yet.
Personally, I was always more active in arts and crafts when I was working as oppose to when I was unemployed. Unemployment destroyed my confidence.
On the flip side, you obviously have the drive to work for a living which is admirable and healthy.
@@americanscarelines2757 for sure, but it is a state of mind and can change depending on what happens you know.
Vic Birth was the job itself that gave you purpose or was it what you did in that job that you found meaningful?
@@i_know_it2231 well to be honest the job I got after being unemployed for about half a year was not the ideal job for me, stressful and not very fulfilling but I was able to learn things, meet people then eventually invest in myself. So it was definately a give and take relationship, but it was way better than not having any prospects.
Were you on UBI or means tested welfare?
I went to college for automation. I'm set for the future.
Yep, remember to automate the student debt payments too.
I'm joking. That's the future.
@@officialspaceefrain I have no student debt
What if the robots can build themselves????
@@matthewarnold4557 Then we're definitely going to lose the war against them and become their slaves
@@Im_George So daddy payed for it, then. That's cute. It also makes your opinion irrelevant.
Not just automation-it's the temp/gig economy.
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Started working skilled trades in a business 'campus' in 1996 and on the campus was 11 factories that paid good wages/benefits.
By 2006 there was 15% temp staffing in the factories-in 2013 it was 85%. The temp workers made $9 an hour with no benefits and the factories paid the temp agency $14.
The good paying jobs have left or are leaving. The problem will snowball-and do it fast.
UBI to replace all other government payments might be ok.
Learn to code is the modern day let them eat cake.
I mean, I'm a programmer. It's a satisfying career, and it's totally possible to get into it without a degree, but it's not a universal solution to the current job crisis. If a friend who was good at problem solving wanted to know what to do with their life, I'd tell them to try Python or Kotlin, maybe there's a career in there for them. But it would be downright delusional to recommend this to an entire classroom, never mind an entire online audience, we can't have a fucking software-based economy.
I once saw some guy on CZcams respond to the complaint that McDonald's workers don't get vacation time with "But the managers do, so you just need to be promoted to manager". Right, let's just have everyone be managers.
Finally, a lot of conservatives comment on the absurd cost of university with "If you work hard, you'll get a scholarship". But everyone fucking knows scholarships are only for the best 5-10%, there aren't nearly enough for everyone.
@@gabrielfraser2109 No one ever said it was the end-all solution for unemployment. A private company teachers coal miners to code and gets them jobs in the field. The media reported it on it because they found the story intriguing. Then conservative snowflakes wined and said but we all can't learn to code. No one ever said that. No one ever said all unemployment could be solved by learning to code. All it ever was, was a story about how a company tried to help unemployed previous coal miners get jobs from learning to code. It was an overreaction to a simple story.
Let them eat cake was actually fake and never said by Marie Antoinette though
Well other jobs are just as important
Except that coding provides income, like many other jobs that anyone can do, and "cake" was literally the crap burned onto a pan when making bread.
Lol at Ben thinking poets don’t do drugs
lmao hahahaha yeah some of Ben's opinions come from an extremely sheltered place and sometimes it almost seems genuine.
I'd love to see all this poetry the druggie community has been hiding from the public
GoombaGenocide go to the library and ask for the poetry section
@@KappaKiller108 ffs dude
This is some basic logic test. "all cars are vehicles, but not all vehicles are cars". Dumbass.
@@nbkw48 what? That logic test applies to the OP. Ben didn't say poets don't do drugs, he said the welfare community isn't creating a lot of art and developing some meaningful social fabric. The OP strawmanned the shit out of the argument
This dude clearly has never been poor
well of course he hasnt...............
Ok?...
Does that disproves what he says
Moral of the story: LEARN A TRADE
THAT WON'T GET AUTOMATED... SOON
Joe "I change my views based on who I'm interviewing" Rogan
That's so true.
Normal people can change their mind when given new facts about something.
Joe "I change my opinions whenever new information is presented to me" rogan
Ben loves butt
It's just his interviewing strategy to facilitate getting to the base of his guest's views and facilitating them talking about it.
Ive been existing on 11k a year for 16 years on disability, hardly a living
Yang 2024 I heard Andrew Yang actually quote multiple times that it would replace other benefits including disability & SS.
Yang 2024 Ahh I was for it if it replaced programs but that shit ain’t gon work financially. There’s barely enough money for it to work with cutting all benefits, not even close without cutting.
misfit 25 i used to only spend around max-ish 6k a year however i live with my parents i managed to save around 70k in 5 years :) could be around 100k if i was Single and didn’t went out as much as i did when i was younger.
@@misfit2529 Probably It wouldn't come on top of the income. UBI will simply replace the well fare etc.
@James Robert it's easy to save and not put your happiness on materialist things. everyone is all sh@ting bricks with this pandemic because of wrong life choices. and the ones that get easily offended are the people that make excesses.
people that believe earning 16k for 10+ years and complaining about not living just need to suck it up. i'm dyslexic but I still got my dream job AND a side business selling stuff. I only make around £100 on that business it but it's a start.
UBI, who cares what you do with your money. Overdose on drugs. Paint. Start something new. Who is one person to say anything
@Burt Gummer not if everyone even millionaires get it. I get it inuse to work.for ups which was a union the only way you could get fired was if you stole something. I busted my ass for nothing while I had to help other workers at my same position unload there trucks.
I'm open with both sides on ubi, but I'd rather be early with it than late. Automation is just coming in such a quick rate, I've seen many personal instances where 50-60 year olds are getting replaced at factories and replaced by robots and they have a hard time finding a job which they were at 30+ years for making 20+$/hr.
I have alot of problems with america, it isn't the freest country in the world. College is the biggest ponzi scheme in America, colleges have become more expensive with a degree not being worth the money.
@Burt Gummer I create automation software, I can tell you within 5 years 90+% of factories will only need 30-50 employees. The next one is the trucking industry. Automating semi trucks to go strait between the east and west coast is already in place.
Jesus. What a difference a year can make.
“You’re apologizing for not cursing.” Lol!
Only one reason I love Ben Shapiro. I like listening to beep-free speech.
In what carnival circus of a world is $250 a week ($1,000 a month) enough to make people stop working? I can barely survive on $400 a week.
Your standard of living is too high
You can't even survive off $800 a week in Miami or San Francisco.
@biscuit depending where you live at, $400 a week is barely surviving.
@@tmcfootball96 yeah but if you get the money anyways you don't have to live somewhere that expensive, since you are not bound by a job.
@@stonesnake2444 not easy to do. Takes a bit of planning to do. But people are lazy as hell
some people will take UBI and be fine with that. others will take UBI as a foundation to build a better future for themselves. if increasing automation is an inevitable aspect of technological progress, then we won't have much of a choice but to implement some form of UBI- unless we just want people dying in the streets... which is kind of already happening... so, we're kind of already there.
I lost my job due to being ill. Yes I’m on SSI since I was 56 now 60. I get almost 30 a year because over the years the government taxed the hell out of me. Your premise that people like me just stay home and do drugs is so off base. I actually am in my last year of getting my degree to do an animated job at 60. Remember not everyone is the same and some of us gave paid dearly in taxes through out our life for SSI.
Appreciate joe for backing Andrew or maybe just playing the devil’s advocate. Great podcast.
Appreciate ben for trying to educate joe rogan a little
@@noahgarcia5951 Cept Ben is a far right shill. He acted sane during his Yang interview and then goes and shills on Rogan. And whenever people call him out on his bullshit he retracts it and pretends it never happened. Yang already said he wants to legalize opioids so that people aren't worried about going to prison when they want to reach out for help. And that is jsut the beginning.
@Dewayne Thomas. First of all, "Far Right" is not a thing. Not really. Even if it was (like Nazis), Ben is a Jew. (Also, in my opinion the actions of said "Far Right" Nazis are far more reflected by the current day Far Left, than they do the Right. Meaning more governmental control, Confinsation of guns, a single Political Party controled country, Socialist programs and an extreme hatred toward a single race of people as blaming them for the cause of all the problems. In the Left's case this means "Whites".)
Second, Ben "acted sane" as you put it because that's what Interveiwers are Supposed to do. Ask questions of the person that they're interveiwing and then keep their mouths shut. Unlike what the Left has been doing which is demonize anything you have to say that doesn't apply to the narative that they want you to say. Ask any documentarian. Heck ask Casey Jay why she kept her mouth shut when she was doing all of her interveiws despite she hated what the MRA's had to say. (Her TedEd Talk can be found here: czcams.com/video/3WMuzhQXJoY/video.html )
Third, "whenever people call him out on his bullshit", you mean whenever people try to tell Ben what he said incorrectly? Like how you call what Ben did here with Rogan as "shilling". Or perhaps durring the times where he's quoted saying something before (as in years prior) without any regard that time has passed by. Thus, mistakes (if any) are discovered and retracted properly, or opinions have changed due to new facts that have been discovered.
Forth, Ben has always had this opinion Reguardless of Yang's existence and he is raising the exact same points that any sane person would on the topics. (Heck, there are a number of things that I noticed about his interveiw with Yang. For starters, Yang never actually Answers the questions that he's asked. He tells a story, vaguely mentions the topic, but never really answers.)
@@Snowmon89 yeah apparently having conservative views makes you far right nowadays
Shapiro the robot
Well why cant you have Universal Basic Income and a better drug policy. Why can't we have both of these?
@MultiTarded that doesnt make any sense, better rehab = no money spent on drugs
@@OsmoZchannel We have to change our view on drugs in order to better rehab. Being able to be convicted and stigmatized for using causes A LOT of people to be wary of rehabilitation. I personally approve of how the UK treats it. Its a health epidemic. Treating it as such allows for alternate means of dealing with it.
Because racism, and dominance
@Jeremy Shaffer Who's UBI platform is set up to take more from average citizens than it delivers? Haven't heard that policy before.
MultiTarded the people that do drugs will do drugs anyway, so instead of them committing crime and breaking into something here’s the 2 grand a month and they can shoot up or clean up c
Ben looks like a human Dragon Ball Z character
"learn to code" has since been replaced with Ivanka's "try something new".
No, it hasn't
Replaced with "learn how to make solar panels" John Kerry.
Looks like somebody's triggered 😁
@@sarahrobson9566 who got triggered?
@@sarahrobson9566 who got triggered?
That awkward moment when I am a trucker who codes. Granted I coded before I started trucking :P
Lol
You are the future
I can't work because of my aspergers and can't get ssdi so my mom takes care of me and she is dyeing so ubi would keep me from because homeless. And I could start a bladesmithing shop and sell them and one day I could support myself.
@C caymer but we have no lives.
@C caymer Haha! I wasn't completely honest with my first comment. I trucked for five years. I'm recently running our company's office and moonlighting as a Linux sysadmin :D
Ben Shapiro has never been a kid in an unhappy home and it shows.
Yeah he clearly doesn't understand that one at all.
You act like that is a bad thing...
@@tommynoble9075 not a bad thing at all, just shows he doesn't get what that shit can do to people.
@@tommynoble9075 It's not. It's a great thing and great for him.
But like many conservative commentators, they're a little out of touch with how people near the poverty line lives.
"I think you should stick it out for the kids" is a statement I don't think he would be saying growing up a kid in an unhappy home.
He mentions this study a lot and it’s not in this clip, but couples who graduated high school, both work and don’t get pregnant out of wedlock have a 98% probability of success.
Some of the biggest issues in a home are money, but this study (from Harvard or Yale I forget) shows that your chances of money struggles are less if you do those 3 things.
I started in the projects ended up working...
If you really want out, YOU WILL GET OUT.
Keep your head up, never give up, and understand some people you are going to let go if you wanna make it
The only help that ever really gets you anywhere self help. it doesn't matter how badly other people want you to succeed if you don't want to succeed you're doomed.
Excellent post. I believe the same.
The irony of this self-made bias
@@rainbow6siegetutorials328 No, self made PROPHECY.
But this is exactly how you create purpose. Of course at the beginning there won't be much, but after time, bored people will do creative things. Some people just don't have it in them and that won't be weather they get UBI or don't.
If ben shapiro had a conversation with eminem it would shatter the space time continuum
He'd have to consider hip hop music first. Maybe in an alternate universe somewhere.
@@Tao-fp3yr why is it not Kosher?
@@cybervoid8442 Nah. Not that. He just considers hip hop not music.
“Crisis of purpose” is a telling phrase.
In what way?
@@aetherblackbolt1301 "Crisis of purpose" is like "Dignity of work" in that they're terms that right-wingers use while saying "facts don't care about your feelings" with no sense of irony. Right-wing politicians act like if you give people a UBI, they won't work because they won't have to. That's not how people work, though. We, as a people, actually don't enjoy sitting on our arses doing nothing for months at a time. We also don't enjoy being forced to work a job we hate because we're not making enough money to get something better.
@@davidhill2020
Agreed. I thought UBI was too experimental back before the DemonRats kicked Andrew and Tulsi to the curb. Now look at us. Billions of dollars of weapons, equipment and bases donated the Taliban, who took no time at all using it against any dissenters, especially women. Trillions of dollars for Wall Street. Billions to Fauci, who has used it to torture Beagles with sand flies for no discernable reason...
And we still don't have UBI. If we're going to print trillions, we can at least give it to the people, instead of torturing puppies and arming terrorists.
It’s not possible to help people that do not want help or change in their lives! At some point a person must decide to move! They must find drive, motivation, desire for betterment, initiative! Until “they” find this or its introduced into their lives AND they embrace it their lives will follow a very similar even predictable pattern. 👍 Pattern Hint: people can only do so many things with themselves. If they aren’t being productive well there is only 1 other thing they could be doing! I’ll leave that last part for readers to figure out. Happy New Year everyone! 🎉🎈⭐️
If the government gave me $1,000 a month I'd start my own business as an auto mechanic. Working for someone else is highway robbery in this industry.
If the government gave everyone $1000 a month for free, then it would be hard for you to find employees for your business.
@@karaokeandrandomclips Not really, people work better when their livelihood doesn't depend on it.
@@ashishkalam9337 A lot of people don't want to work if they don't have to. For example, right now a lot of companies are hiring in the USA but are having a hard time hiring people because people are getting unemployment benefits.
@@karaokeandrandomclips I would prefer to work if I could find a job that pays me enough to support myself. Jobs paying less than a liveable wage is the real problem.
@@karaokeandrandomclips the only reason these people who are receiving unemployment benefits don't work is because as soon as they work they lose those benefits. UBI is supposed to be where even if you do get a job you won't lose UBI unless you make a big amount of money
My job is slowly being replaced by a website, and my last job was with RadioShack for almost a decade, I know too much what it feels like to be replaced by a digital environment.
Kris Ewing sounds like you need to try a different field of work lol
Should've learned different skill sets other than working at RadioShack my friend. Do that now before it's too late.
Learn a different skill.
Learn to code
10 years at Radio Shack? By 2003 people knew that place would go belly up. Idk where you live, but hopefully COL wasnt high & you got back on your feet.
The caption team had to hire two staffers for this vid. One person to type 50 words per minute, one coked up typist to type 100 words per minute
Legitimately laughed-out-loud. Well done, sir.
Soooo funny
Kurvin Hein sorry to be that guy, but 100 words per minute is insanely slow speech tempo. An ordinary person talks at about 130-140 so Ben Shapiro probably speaks at like 180
Joseph Hadden your wife is probably sorry you’re that guy too
Kurvin Hein jeez man why you gotta be like that
Keller Logistics is one of the largest logistics/transportation operations in America with a massive fleet of trucks. When speaking with several representatives of the organization, I asked about the rise of automation and the future of their company / as in are you guys going to en masse switch over? Paraphrasing here but they said, "Absolutely not, but even if we were too, by law, a human being would still need to be in the vehicle whenever it is being operated/on the job." So regarding the trucker argument being a main one for UBI, the need for "truckers" would still exist, regardless of the truck being fully automated or not.
Software engineer for a cyber-security company, formerly spent years with a DOD aerospace company. Autopilot was first created in 1912. Still have and need pilots today. Much respect to our truckers who work to quickly deliver the things we need! Society will go on.
We can only hope a lot of jobs will not be replaced by technology. Because if those jobs are gone we are in BIG TROUBLE!!!
@@mr.centrist5789 it has and will continue to happen fairly slow, it's not such a drastic issue. Anyone in almost any career needs to stay aware of how their industry is evolving...and either adapt/learn with the times, or move to a different line of work. That's kind of always been true, just happening faster now, and the times of manual, repetitive, mindless labor are shrinking...not a bad thing, just time to adapt and grow.
@@rockstarvedme many people cannot adapt and grow. Most of us cannot be engineers or rocket scientists. This is where IQ comes in.
@@rockstarvedme I'd suggest you re-evaluate the pace of automation technology and then come to realize, in the next 15 years, alot of menial jobs will just no longer exist. Its not gonna take 30+ years like some people say, its happening much sooner. Fast food workers, Cashiers, Stock guys, Security, Factory work (Already there LMAO!), Office jobs (Data input and other simple office jobs, accounting for multimillion dollars would still be humans), Drivers/Driving. All of that is going the way of the horse-drawn carriage. Put to the side and only ever used anymore for the novelty of making living creatures do menial work.