At the end of the day, I’m siding with Mick. He gave everything to business, not to get himself over, but to make what he loved better. Also Mick’s not a racist, pretentious, habitual liar
That's because he was. It doesn't matter how many cool looking spots a guy does or how many brutal bumps a wrestler can take. At the end of the day it's about drawing power and Hogan drew more than almost anyone. He was Vince McMahon's golden goose.
Well that’s not what he was doing. He was just speaking facts. HH didn’t have to do the stunts Mick did to get over. However HH was better than everyone which is why everyone all over the world will always associate wrestling with Hogan.
Hogan is just sore that on the night of the Fingerpoke of Doom, 600,000 people tuned away from him winning yet another world title, and instead switched over to watch Mick Foley, the deathmatch schmuck who was genuinely beloved by the fans, win his first championship.
@@rgordian624 He's still a multi millionaire. Likely worth just as much as Mick. Hogan is definitely ripe for criticism but bringing up money or audience numbers is a losing strategy.
Ironically, Mick is in better shape now than Hogan. Hogan's workout ethic is better, yes...but he also used steriods a lot and barely "worked" in his matches, doing as little as possible while depending on looks and showmanship to get by. He politiced and manipulated matches to go his way. He rarely had matches in the end because his spine and back were so badly damaged he could barely bend...and they looked awful. Mick was not in as good of physical shape, but his cardio was beyond belief. His stamina and durability were ten times Hogan, and he was deceptively fast and strong. He put as much as he could into each match, which was sadly his weakness...because he often put too much into them. He overworked himself at points simply to give the fans more. The difference wasn't workouts. The difference was knowing how much to give in the ring. Hogan did too little, Foley did too much.
Yeah, hogan is 70. that's what happens to you when you get old. you breakdown and for wrestlers it's even worst :). Foley at 40 was in the same shape as hogan at 70 injury wise :)
@@champlainscrap6076 The fuck he's not Hogan's not like that because he's old it's the 50 back surgeries and the steroids that ran him down. But try again meat rider.
I wouldnt say his durability was better than Hogan. I love both dudes, Hogan really had no reason to say this... but the brother has over 2000 matches. Foley has about 1500. There was a time in the 80s Hogan was doing 300 matches a year.
You remember how much weight Hogan lost when he first got off steroids? Foley doesn't look like a typical athlete, but you don't hear stories about him getting gassed thirty seconds into a match like Ultimate Warrior. You don't hear stories about him injuring people because he couldn't hit his marks.
@@Mark_Knight Warrior injured wrestlers in his 30 second matches. Mick never once injured another wrestler due to his complete and utter wreckless LACK OF TRAINING IN THE RING. I'll bet that when it comes to actually training as a wrestler in the ring than a roid machine "training" in the gym, Foley has worked on his wrestling more than Hogan or Warrior ever did in their lives combined. Hogan was slowly realizing that the fan-favorite in wrestling in the 1990's DEFINITELY WAS NOT HIM, and those 24 (sorry, after the roids, they went down to about 18) inch pythons couldn't handle that a nice guy who looks out of shape could put on some of the greatest matches and moments ever, when no one has ever said that about any Hogan or Warrior match. And if Hulk and Warrior didn't do so many steroids in the 80's, Vince never would have hired them.
He should've tried to stay under 275, but Hogan is stupid, Mick trains, he just not a steroid guy. Hell he has worked long ppv main events with Shawn Michaels, if you can keep up with him I think your not doing too bad.
@rcr0729 Hulk's claim is believable considering he landed on his ass for 30 years straight. Couple that with the constant surgeries he gets and you could see how he would lose 3 inches.
@@spiderboiplays5049 there is a difference between Hulk Hogan being a showman and Cactus Jack jumping through a flaming table. The former gets all the money and attention while the latter risks bodily harm for the sake of a minority in the audience.
@@heavyartillery-qm5hu Hulk Hogan being a showman lol. Dudes boring af just like your wreslting taste go watch 80s awa garbage then. If Hogan wreslted today he'd be irrelevant.
@@heavyartillery-qm5hu I can see Mick's point about Hogan's matches but at the same time you can say Hogan was being economical in what to do to preserve his body while Mick went way too far and ended up hurting himself way more than needed and almost to the point of killing the business by doing crazy reckless stuff that crippled him and damaged some of the credibility of the guys he was working with by taking all kinds of moves and unnecessary risks to make himself look like superman. I think Hogan's comment about Mick's physical conditioning was unfair but Hogan was from that generation of wrestling that was featuring muscle bound physiques. As far as apologizing about Hogan's matches at that time was probably how several felt when Mick's wrestling skills and ability started to deteriorate and hung on too long that last little stint in WWE and TNA. At any rate, I like both Mick and Hogan.
The only Hulk Hogan matches I watch are the ones where he loses. I know it's scripted, but still. I like watching his massive ego take the hit. You could literally pick any Mick Foley match or promo out of thin air and be entertained. Know why? It's because there's no ego there. THAT'S the difference between a Mick Foley and a Hulk Hogan.
I know what you mean. Even though I know it's fake, HE believes it's real, so seeing him eat an L you know he doesn't want to eat in real life makes it more fun.
As a fan I would rather watch any match of Mich Foley's than Hulk Hogan's career for career wether he was Cactus Jack, Mankind, Dude Love, or just Mick Foley every time he was in that ring he made sure the fans had a like long memory of his matches
Hogan hasn't wrestled a match since the 70s. He's strutted around the ring and asked his brother (of whom he seems to have many) if they know something. Oh, and rip his pre-ripped tank top. Can't forget that. Thank you, Hulkster, for putting your hand to your ear and flexing. You saved wrestling.
This may not a popular opinion, but Hogan showing up on TV or PPV used to be my signal to go for a piss break and grab another drink. It was always the same, either a 3 minute match where he got his ass kicked for 2 minutes and then he "Hulked up", hit the punches, Irish whip, big boot, leg drop, pin, five minutes of hotdogging and grandstanding and finally the end of the show, or when he was in the nWo, cutting 20 minute nonsensical promos with no direction whilst half of the active roster stand around the ring in matching black nWo shirts trying to look interested. This isn't to say that I've never enjoyed a Hogan match, but if you've seen one, you can rule out about 99% of the other ones. We all know that Foley was never a body guy, but his in ring work was always excellent.
Your description of his matches sounds spot on to me. Honestly my favorite childhood memory of Hogan was the movie Suburban Commando. He was important to wrestling, but he became out of place as the years went on
@@donhill1825 at the time, perhaps; but it clearly didn't last. Look at Hogan in this clip and tell me that's what a guy who's secure about his career looks like.
I put Mick Foley in my top 5 of all time . I really believe he is up there amongst the greats . He is so intelligent . He has a great understanding for the business . I love the Cactus Jack character , bang bang !!! He is well respected in the business and always conducted him self as a professional . Thank you Mick !!!
Hogan brought wrestling to the mainstream, but Mick Foley got several of WWFs biggest stars over in the attitude era so I’d say as far as contributions to the business go, Foley is right there with Hogan. Not being a complete scumbag puts Foley over the top in my opinion.
Another thing Foley never did was cut someones nuts off backstage or refuse to put someone over. I realise what Hogans done for the business but you can discount what Mick has given to the business too. He loves what he does
Well that's sort of the thing about someone who cuts down his rivals rather than building himself up. We know what Foley did for the industry, not just in how he's succeeded but in the success he brought to those around him. With Hogan.... we know he brought alot to the wrestling business, but we'll never really know how much he took away too. How many promising stars didn't get their due, how many talents of the golden age hit a ceiling because their push didn't work for him, and what WCW would be today if they hadn't had to carry Hogan's inflated salary, inflated sense of self worth and creative control.
The irony is Hulkster can barely walk due to a spine that has more metal than actual bone while Mick is in better shape. Moral of the story: Steroids will destroy you in the long run.
Steroids didn't cause that. Dropping on his ass like 1000 times a year did that. It just took him like 60- years to get there compared to foley who was done by like 40 and completely broken down. Thank got he was able to get healthy to a certain extent
@Champlainscrap steroids break down connecting tendons and cartilage throughout the body. What has cartilage? Your spine. And what does the cartilage do? Absorb shock and impact. So yes that’s why he has to walk around on crutches all those years of doing the leg drop, deterioration of spinal disks, sudden loss of muscle mass supporting that spine = your spine looking like a stack of dimes and having to use crutches to walk around. And no working till you’re 60 isn’t a good thing. Foley new when to get out unlike hogan and flair.
@@reymondlopez7468 Who are you to say when someone should stop working? Work till you're 100 if you can. You don't have to like it but he could. Foley stopped because he couldn't work anymore not because he decided to go out on top. He physically couldn't move at one point. Without Hogan dropping on his ass 1000 times a year, his back would be fine now with or without steroids.
Hogan was a childhood hero of mine. Now forward almost 40 years later he was just a gimmick now that I look back. Had the same 4 moved he used in every match 99% showboating throughout his matches. No technical skillset whatsoever. He was a gimmick that made Vince McMahon billions of dollars with his inspirational one liners and bulked up steroid enhanced physique. Sorry if that offends anyone and I'm sure it will but that's just my opinion of the Hulkster
And now 22 years later, hulk admitted he was ignorant and jealous when he made this comment and apologized to him face to face when he wasn't prompted to. Good for him for making it right
Hogan,a guy with a total number of moves you could count on a hand missing fingers,takes a shot at one of the hardest toughest workers and nicest guys Good on mick for firing back
Mick is the most giving and selfless sports entertainer. Hulk was just glitz and self promotion. Hulk turned wrasslin into wrestling and into a big show, Mick made it much better and more breathtaking and exciting.
I watch old Mick foleys matches till this day, I can honestly say I’ve never typed in an old hulk hogan match. Hogan was appreciated by kids Mankind was liked by kids and Adults alike
Watch Hogan vs Rock at WrestleMania 18. It's a great match & nobody jumped on a flaming announcer's table covered in scorpions. I liked Mick Foley's matches too but he wasn't Shawn Michaels. Without the insanely dangerous stunts, he couldn't have made it in the business. The same way Hogan relied on his look & charisma. They both have a point.
This is just one of many times Hogan would sit down and blatantly make himself seem so much better than his peers. Of the countless shoot interviews out there among former wrestlers when referring to Hogan, it’s crazy how you get such a strong sense of how Hogan was the kind of guy to shake your hand and call you brother to your face and then stab you directly in the back.
I really appreciate how Mick stands up for himself while also being respectful. Hulk Hogan is just being a jerk who's trying to make himself look great.
In the Circus of Pro Wrestling, you have something for everyone. The Trapeze Artists and the Lion Taimers, the Strongman Act, and the Human Cannonball not to mention the Freakshows. Not to mention the morality plays of Beauty and the Beast and the quest for the championship. Everyone is needed to play their own roles and shut their mouth.
@@SirRavixofFourhorn That's your opinion. In the 80's Hulkamania was running wild. His popularity was off the charts. Fans loved watching him wrestle. He was the draw in WWF. So...
Genetically speaking Mick was never gonna be like Hogan so he did what he had to/was able to, to make a life in the business he loved. Yes he wrecked his body but so did Hulk. Hulk is terribly crippled from dropping the leg for 30 years. At least Foley is crippled from spectacular bumps, not the lamest finisher ever.
That's not impressive when you're mostly talking. I'm 36 , I don't remember Remember Hogan for matches I remember him for promos. I remember Mick for matches. I watched wrestling for the matches not the promos
He also invented the internet, saved Make a Wish children at Wembley Stadium, auditioned for Metallica, discovered gravity, deflected asteroids away from earth with his 28” pythons, and created the best coq au vin with braised lardons the world has ever seen.
I doubt Hulk Hogan would be saying all this stuff about Mick, in front of Mick. The stuff that Foley has done to himself throughout his career is enough for me to respect him. Same thing goes for being a best selling author and continuing to put in the work elsewhere. Hogan more or less had everything handed to him because of the look and name alone.
Being a pro wrestler is about making money and both of them did very well. Congratulations to both of them. Hogan is broke up now and so is Mick so in the end it didn't matter if you worked out in a gym 30 years or not.
@@kovesveta4238 You did not read it correctly. He is not financially broke. His body is broken down bad knees,bad back,bad neck, ect and so is Hogan with 8 back surgeries,both knees replaced and both hips replaced. They both have money but their bodies are broke up
Hulk Hogan is training by taking cocaine. 5 moves of doom. He has 7 moves in Japan. His promos were just flexing and brother. Mick Foley could wrestle and not just "glass and fire". He had really fucking good ring psychology, he could do a real promo.
Mick made it to superstar status by eating those “ cheeseburger’s and m&ms “ so what’s hogans point. They both made it huge by different methods I guess hogans is “always” the better method . Meanwhile I bet way more folks love mick a lot more than HH Jmo
Not really. Hogan was pushed to the moon because of his height and muscle. Mick wasn't pushed. The fans pushed him not the company. Hence the reason he is still loved by the WWE universe, while hulk will always get mixed reactions.
Doing shitty little leg drops and no selling your opnnents moves by "Hulking Up" of course was embarrassing to Foley. Then Hogan has the nerve to say "I didn't need to destroy my body." He was never EVER gonna do that anyway, Hogan was too busy getting his way from McMahon. Just like when he straight up lied about Undertaker injuring his neck, going back to cry to Vince which led to Hogan pathetically winning the title right back from Undertaker after only 3 damn matches Taker got to spend as champion in 1991. Anyone who thinks Hogan actually got injured in their Survivor Series match needs to go watch, the proof and match are literally on CZcams. Taker's knees hit Flair's chair while Hogan's head and neck weren't anywhere near it. Hogan girating around while wrestling at the speed of an 80 year old man may have entertained '80s kids, but Hogan's matches always bored the hell out of me and they looked more predictable and faker than anything that came from the PG era everyone likes to bitch about.
Don't forget the claim that Hogan legit paid off Nick Patrick to mess up the scripted fast count against Sting (that screwed up many months of buildup) just because he wanted to look like he won fair and square.
I mean they both make good points. Was Foley really entertaining in the ring? Absolutely, but at the same time his over the top wrestling style ended his career early. while hogan took the safer and more boring route by not doing anything over the top, which extend his career.
True, but fans never got “bored” of Mick. By the early-mid 90’s, people were sick of Hogan and his shtick. I watched the championship match with Undertaker, and people were chanting for him over Hogan about halfway through. His inflated ego, his whiny fits to the bosses when things didn’t go his way, his complete refusal to help out the younger guys (unless he got a massive paycheck or something out of it) and actively hamstringing other guys made other wrestlers hate him. It’s why he had to go heel in WCW and latch onto NWO, because his “Real American” gimmick and 5 basic moves was played out and wasn’t selling tickets anymore. Mick kept it interesting from day one until his last day, whereas people were so sick of seeing Hogan at the end and watching him piss and moan until management let him have yet another belt that they couldn’t stand it.
@@vcvortex6356 well first off I can't stand when somebody disrespect someone and says "no disrespect ".. that's passive aggressive and weak.. 2nd .Foley carved out his own niche and did what worked for him
aka "my back is jacked up already? have you seen 2002 me walk? my leg drop night after night year after year has been far more damaging than being thrown off the hell in a cell cage"
Well let me tell you something Micker, I was roiding dude, 2 hours everyday jack. Needles would literally run out of juice in my pthyons brother. Me and Beefcake would swap wives brother after matches and jump on the harley dude. This interview doesn't work for me brother.
They didnt make me gasp. They made me say who mick is truly an idiot. He has to do all of this car crash television because he isnt a good promo and he isnt a good wrestler. So thats why he has to resort to constant dangerous spots. He and ecw helped ruin modern day wrestling. Thanks alot mick. good job not
@@fatherdamien69 Hulk was a different era. Attitude fans don’t really care all that much about him to be honest. I remember him in WCW getting severely injured during Spring Stampede and winning a title with a finger poke of doom. No wonder WWE won the Monday Night Wars. He was great for his time, but he should have retired decades ago. Mick Foley is a legend for a reason. Because he gave more to the business and didn’t need to bury people or poltic backstage to give memorable matches. Hulk’s great, but I wouldn’t wanna watch any of his matches over a Foley match. You’re probably a mark for bodies, which is fine
Proof that Hulk Hogan was only in it for himself. Instead of being happy for Foley and being supportive of him, he talks about all the crap he's done and insults other wrestlers like the "Whiny girl in the porno film" he is. But then again, we're talking about Hulk Hogan. I don't think he has any respect for anyone that doesn't worship the ground he walks on. Mick Foley will always be better than Hogan, in my opinion.
I'm siding with Mick lol. I can't name a Hulk Hogan match that I'll just go back and watch. Hell in the Cell @ KOTR '98 and the I Quit match of Royal Rumble '99 are two of my favorite matches of all time. And both involved Mick.
Hogan started the 2nd boom. Austin was barely elevated to WWF Midcard status when the NWO started. The Rock was getting booed out of buildings for about a year when the boom was under way so let's not pretend that these guys were the reason for the boom(they did take it to another level, but they didn't start it).
@@freebachelor5060the nWo was already over when Hogan joined. Sure, his name value and heel turn boosted it, but Hall and Nash did the legwork. And don't forget that Hogan didn't even want to do it and had to be persuaded to do it, with everyone else being kept away from him in case he changed his mind. They even had Sting as a plan B third man in case Hogan flaked out on the night.
I always remember whenever Ventura was saying that Hogan was afraid to go to Minnesota whenever Ventura was Governor because he was worried that Ventura would get him arrested.
Hogan has been involved with more successful angles than any other wrestler in history and to my knowledge the only person he injured was himself with the legdrop
@@jimmccormick6091 nope. He was drawing more money than everyone else. A subtle difference. Putting Bret over Hulk for example never made any financial sense. Bret is not what makes money.
Hogan definitely drew money for himself and for the business but god go back and watch any of the wrestlemanias he was in he was shit ass awful in the ring. I watched that match he had with warrior the other night at WM 6 and that match is one of many embarrassment shit stain moments in the history of the wrestling business. What sad truly sad is that wasn’t even the worst match those two stiffs had together in the ring. 😂😂😂
@@heavyartillery-qm5hu yeah he drew big in wcw from 94-96, and don’t get me started on his TNA run. And remember when he tried to sabotage the undertakers career and claim he hurt his neck with the tombstone on the chair? Hogan is a fabricated douche plain and simple.
" No disrespect to Mick Foley " continues to disrespect Mick Foley
@StarMan brilliant when he said that absolute idiot first class idiot and very narcissistic aswell
@StarMan LOL. Hey Terry, that's not how the International timeline works!
Hogan is a JOKE
EXACTLY!
But he's right, though. Foley looked like crap.
At the end of the day, I’m siding with Mick. He gave everything to business, not to get himself over, but to make what he loved better. Also Mick’s not a racist, pretentious, habitual liar
I don't like Hogan but his daughter was white and dating a black man which is race mixing.....and race mixing is to be avoided.
This 100%. He put over so many guys who then went onto mega status....Hogan put over Ultimate Warrior....just about lol 😂
Everyone is a racist.
God forbid the Hulkster from wanting grandkids to remotely resemble him. 🙄
@@MrCaCaaaaaaaaa Just say your racist. Also, if you really believe that then did he need to use the n word?
Dang, Mick didn't even tell him to have a nice day either.
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Hogan: Owwwwww, have mercy!
when he said “you won’t have to apologize for a Mick Foley match” i literally yelled THANK YOU!
Mick told him good.
Hogan never misses an opportunity to explain why he's better than everybody else.
Yeah no doubt
He'll never get over losing to Warrior clean in WM6.
That's because he was. It doesn't matter how many cool looking spots a guy does or how many brutal bumps a wrestler can take. At the end of the day it's about drawing power and Hogan drew more than almost anyone. He was Vince McMahon's golden goose.
Because He's Hulk Hogan "The Man "
Well that’s not what he was doing. He was just speaking facts. HH didn’t have to do the stunts Mick did to get over. However HH was better than everyone which is why everyone all over the world will always associate wrestling with Hogan.
1:20 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Foley is the MAN!
Hogan is just sore that on the night of the Fingerpoke of Doom, 600,000 people tuned away from him winning yet another world title, and instead switched over to watch Mick Foley, the deathmatch schmuck who was genuinely beloved by the fans, win his first championship.
Hulk told you that?
@@TL2354 Your mom did last night.
And he cried all the way to the bank.
@@donhill1825 Linda cried to the bank then called him gay. lol
@@rgordian624 He's still a multi millionaire. Likely worth just as much as Mick. Hogan is definitely ripe for criticism but bringing up money or audience numbers is a losing strategy.
Ironically, Mick is in better shape now than Hogan. Hogan's workout ethic is better, yes...but he also used steriods a lot and barely "worked" in his matches, doing as little as possible while depending on looks and showmanship to get by. He politiced and manipulated matches to go his way. He rarely had matches in the end because his spine and back were so badly damaged he could barely bend...and they looked awful.
Mick was not in as good of physical shape, but his cardio was beyond belief. His stamina and durability were ten times Hogan, and he was deceptively fast and strong. He put as much as he could into each match, which was sadly his weakness...because he often put too much into them. He overworked himself at points simply to give the fans more.
The difference wasn't workouts. The difference was knowing how much to give in the ring. Hogan did too little, Foley did too much.
Yeah, hogan is 70. that's what happens to you when you get old. you breakdown and for wrestlers it's even worst :). Foley at 40 was in the same shape as hogan at 70 injury wise :)
um hogan worked his matches in japan i'd say
@@terryautry6493 Cool he worked matches for a year and a half of his 30 year career. What a worker lol.
@@champlainscrap6076 The fuck he's not Hogan's not like that because he's old it's the 50 back surgeries and the steroids that ran him down. But try again meat rider.
I wouldnt say his durability was better than Hogan. I love both dudes, Hogan really had no reason to say this... but the brother has over 2000 matches. Foley has about 1500. There was a time in the 80s Hogan was doing 300 matches a year.
You remember how much weight Hogan lost when he first got off steroids?
Foley doesn't look like a typical athlete, but you don't hear stories about him getting gassed thirty seconds into a match like Ultimate Warrior. You don't hear stories about him injuring people because he couldn't hit his marks.
Foley threw himself off ledges. WArrior literally ran to the ring. What is your point?
Amen.
@@Mark_Knight Warrior injured wrestlers in his 30 second matches. Mick never once injured another wrestler due to his complete and utter wreckless LACK OF TRAINING IN THE RING. I'll bet that when it comes to actually training as a wrestler in the ring than a roid machine "training" in the gym, Foley has worked on his wrestling more than Hogan or Warrior ever did in their lives combined.
Hogan was slowly realizing that the fan-favorite in wrestling in the 1990's DEFINITELY WAS NOT HIM, and those 24 (sorry, after the roids, they went down to about 18) inch pythons couldn't handle that a nice guy who looks out of shape could put on some of the greatest matches and moments ever, when no one has ever said that about any Hogan or Warrior match.
And if Hulk and Warrior didn't do so many steroids in the 80's, Vince never would have hired them.
@@chrisbutler1668 100% 🏆
Hulk Hogan didn't get gassed 30 seconds into a match either.
"not so hard, not so fast" what a fuckin line 😂
No way hogan could of kept up with michaels like foley did at mind games 96
In 1994 or 1995 maybe. New Japan Hogan
Hogan struggled to keep up with Andre
@rgordian624 nah he couldn't work that pace at any point in his career. The guy was always blown up
It's amazing mick could keep up with shawn back then. Dude was on another level.
I think Mick has even said that the extra weight he was carrying helped him take all those bumps over the years. A little extra cushioning.
It's a double edged sword because carrying extra weight isn't good for your organs, but yes it will help with things like taking bumps.
He should've tried to stay under 275, but Hogan is stupid, Mick trains, he just not a steroid guy. Hell he has worked long ppv main events with Shawn Michaels, if you can keep up with him I think your not doing too bad.
that is too obvious
I noticed that in my childhood that his fluffy body providers him an edge
but still not to a degree he went through
"I use to be 6'9. But after back and knees surgery im only 6'4" - Hulk Hogan
"I used to work over 400 days a year." - Hulk Hogan
he is shorter that is clear
But isnt 5 inches too much of a claim
2 or max 3 is believable
Not at all you naturally shrink in height with age and injury, Undertaker was legit 6'10 and is now 6'5
@@gothabilly5There is no way you shrink 5 inches due to age…even with injuries. Maybe 2 inches 3 tops if you had spinal surgery.
@rcr0729 Hulk's claim is believable considering he landed on his ass for 30 years straight. Couple that with the constant surgeries he gets and you could see how he would lose 3 inches.
That not so fast and not so hard line was hardcore. Also the line about being embarrassed with your friends while watching a hogan match lol
I would be a lot more embarrassed watching fake fighters hurting themselves for real
@@heavyartillery-qm5hu so let me guess you don't watch movies either because they're fake?
@@spiderboiplays5049 there is a difference between Hulk Hogan being a showman and Cactus Jack jumping through a flaming table.
The former gets all the money and attention while the latter risks bodily harm for the sake of a minority in the audience.
@@heavyartillery-qm5hu Hulk Hogan being a showman lol. Dudes boring af just like your wreslting taste go watch 80s awa garbage then. If Hogan wreslted today he'd be irrelevant.
@@heavyartillery-qm5hu I can see Mick's point about Hogan's matches but at the same time you can say Hogan was being economical in what to do to preserve his body while Mick went way too far and ended up hurting himself way more than needed and almost to the point of killing the business by doing crazy reckless stuff that crippled him and damaged some of the credibility of the guys he was working with by taking all kinds of moves and unnecessary risks to make himself look like superman. I think Hogan's comment about Mick's physical conditioning was unfair but Hogan was from that generation of wrestling that was featuring muscle bound physiques. As far as apologizing about Hogan's matches at that time was probably how several felt when Mick's wrestling skills and ability started to deteriorate and hung on too long that last little stint in WWE and TNA. At any rate, I like both Mick and Hogan.
The only Hulk Hogan matches I watch are the ones where he loses. I know it's scripted, but still. I like watching his massive ego take the hit. You could literally pick any Mick Foley match or promo out of thin air and be entertained. Know why? It's because there's no ego there. THAT'S the difference between a Mick Foley and a Hulk Hogan.
I know what you mean. Even though I know it's fake, HE believes it's real, so seeing him eat an L you know he doesn't want to eat in real life makes it more fun.
As a fan I would rather watch any match of Mich Foley's than Hulk Hogan's career for career wether he was Cactus Jack, Mankind, Dude Love, or just Mick Foley every time he was in that ring he made sure the fans had a like long memory of his matches
That's because your parents dropped you on your head
I'd watch Rock v Hogan of that Hell in a Cell debacle.
I would bet anything that Hogan has never seen a Foley match
And better for it! Mick is a clown.
What are you talking about? According to Hulk Hogan he's the one who threw Foley off the cage at KOTR 🤣🤣
Hogan hasn't wrestled a match since the 70s. He's strutted around the ring and asked his brother (of whom he seems to have many) if they know something. Oh, and rip his pre-ripped tank top. Can't forget that. Thank you, Hulkster, for putting your hand to your ear and flexing. You saved wrestling.
This comment made me hysterical lolol
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Asked his brother 🤣🤣🤣
You may make it sound like he was trivial but he did put wrestling on the mainstream map in the 80s
Lapsed Fan: 'Hogan-san'.
Mike Landsberg was the best when it came to interviews like this. It's nice to see little clips pop up here and there
This may not a popular opinion, but Hogan showing up on TV or PPV used to be my signal to go for a piss break and grab another drink.
It was always the same, either a 3 minute match where he got his ass kicked for 2 minutes and then he "Hulked up", hit the punches, Irish whip, big boot, leg drop, pin, five minutes of hotdogging and grandstanding and finally the end of the show, or when he was in the nWo, cutting 20 minute nonsensical promos with no direction whilst half of the active roster stand around the ring in matching black nWo shirts trying to look interested.
This isn't to say that I've never enjoyed a Hogan match, but if you've seen one, you can rule out about 99% of the other ones.
We all know that Foley was never a body guy, but his in ring work was always excellent.
EXACTLY
Your description of his matches sounds spot on to me. Honestly my favorite childhood memory of Hogan was the movie Suburban Commando. He was important to wrestling, but he became out of place as the years went on
well said👏
Nailed it🎉
@@blitheringrando1410I have Suburban Commando on DVD. It's so bad, that it's good.
"Early bird ain't no worn" Lol wtf 🤣
This lets you know Hulk don’t know his morals 😂! “The early bird catches the worm” the early bird never called himself the prey he’s hunting 🤣!
Foley is correct about Hulk.
Foley's Cactus Jack was awesome.
Hogan was mad because Foley's main events were outdrawing his over in WCW by a very wide margin during that 1998-2000 time period.
That may be true but Hogan was probably consoled by the fact that he made roughly as much money in 1999 as Mick Foley has in his entire career.
@@donhill1825 Foley has a wife and kids who love him, Hogan ruined his marriage and raised mini versions of he and his vapid ex wife.
@@donhill1825 How much of that Money Hogan kept?
@@donhill1825 at the time, perhaps; but it clearly didn't last. Look at Hogan in this clip and tell me that's what a guy who's secure about his career looks like.
@@ImmortanDan he is still a multi millionaire, as per google
Hogan has always been financially sound and secured
Mad respect for Foley
Why not happy respect?
KOTR ‘98 & Backlash 2004 is all I gotta say on this
Hogan could NEVER work a full 25 minutes of good work, Mick is right on here.
He could barely do 5.
Mick is a legend. Doesn’t matter what Hulk says.
Hulk Hogan couldn't lace up Foley's boots.
When is the Babe Ruth wrestling and the other one is it?
hogan is talent...foley is just a back yard wrestler
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Foley is a legend no matter what you think of his work. hogan hates sharing anything with anyone.
@@DmanDice I don't like sharing...some people have to not because they want to....
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Hogan doesnt have a choice. Any match past the early 90s depends on how willing his opponent was to make him look good.
In Hogan's eyes, Mick didn't say his prayers or take his vitamins
AND STEROIDS
In Hogan's eyes, Mick ain't no pro wrestler
😂😂😂
Hogan's vitamins are steroids and his prayers are basically playing office Politics to screw over others to build himself up
@@kazman_6899 SAYS THE GUY WITH ONE MOVE,,,,,,,,LEG DROP
I put Mick Foley in my top 5 of all time . I really believe he is up there amongst the greats . He is so intelligent . He has a great understanding for the business . I love the Cactus Jack character , bang bang !!! He is well respected in the business and always conducted him self as a professional . Thank you Mick !!!
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He may not be on the WWE Mt. Rushmore but he's in my top 5 wrestlers as well.
Hogan brought wrestling to the mainstream, but Mick Foley got several of WWFs biggest stars over in the attitude era so I’d say as far as contributions to the business go, Foley is right there with Hogan. Not being a complete scumbag puts Foley over the top in my opinion.
Another thing Foley never did was cut someones nuts off backstage or refuse to put someone over. I realise what Hogans done for the business but you can discount what Mick has given to the business too. He loves what he does
Well that's sort of the thing about someone who cuts down his rivals rather than building himself up. We know what Foley did for the industry, not just in how he's succeeded but in the success he brought to those around him. With Hogan.... we know he brought alot to the wrestling business, but we'll never really know how much he took away too. How many promising stars didn't get their due, how many talents of the golden age hit a ceiling because their push didn't work for him, and what WCW would be today if they hadn't had to carry Hogan's inflated salary, inflated sense of self worth and creative control.
The irony is Hulkster can barely walk due to a spine that has more metal than actual bone while Mick is in better shape. Moral of the story: Steroids will destroy you in the long run.
Steroids didn't cause that. Dropping on his ass like 1000 times a year did that. It just took him like 60- years to get there compared to foley who was done by like 40 and completely broken down. Thank got he was able to get healthy to a certain extent
@Champlainscrap steroids break down connecting tendons and cartilage throughout the body. What has cartilage? Your spine. And what does the cartilage do? Absorb shock and impact. So yes that’s why he has to walk around on crutches all those years of doing the leg drop, deterioration of spinal disks, sudden loss of muscle mass supporting that spine = your spine looking like a stack of dimes and having to use crutches to walk around. And no working till you’re 60 isn’t a good thing. Foley new when to get out unlike hogan and flair.
"He's more machine than man now"
@@reymondlopez7468 Who are you to say when someone should stop working? Work till you're 100 if you can. You don't have to like it but he could. Foley stopped because he couldn't work anymore not because he decided to go out on top. He physically couldn't move at one point. Without Hogan dropping on his ass 1000 times a year, his back would be fine now with or without steroids.
I'll bet Hogan's brain is in better shape though. Foley has memory issues and god only knows if he'll end up with CTE when he's Hulk's age.
Hogan was a childhood hero of mine. Now forward almost 40 years later he was just a gimmick now that I look back. Had the same 4 moved he used in every match 99% showboating throughout his matches. No technical skillset whatsoever. He was a gimmick that made Vince McMahon billions of dollars with his inspirational one liners and bulked up steroid enhanced physique. Sorry if that offends anyone and I'm sure it will but that's just my opinion of the Hulkster
And now 22 years later, hulk admitted he was ignorant and jealous when he made this comment and apologized to him face to face when he wasn't prompted to. Good for him for making it right
Hogan,a guy with a total number of moves you could count on a hand missing fingers,takes a shot at one of the hardest toughest workers and nicest guys
Good on mick for firing back
And no better Wrestler than Hogan whatsoever
Mick is the most giving and selfless sports entertainer. Hulk was just glitz and self promotion. Hulk turned wrasslin into wrestling and into a big show, Mick made it much better and more breathtaking and exciting.
Mick did more for the business in 97-98 than Hulk did in his miserable career. And the fans actually loved and respected him for it.
Not even remotely true.
@@RG-lr4pkit isn't true, but Mick was a million times better in the ring and is infinitely better as a human being.
Mick is such a nice guy
Mick makes me proud to be a wrestling fan❤️
I watch old Mick foleys matches till this day, I can honestly say I’ve never typed in an old hulk hogan match. Hogan was appreciated by kids Mankind was liked by kids and Adults alike
Hogan. Ack in the day was liked by adult s .
perverts like to see marks jump off of structures in a fake sport
@@RG-lr4pk ain’t got a clue what you mean by perverts and yes it’s scripted but you try some of them moves I bet you break your neck and your back 😂
Watch Hogan vs Rock at WrestleMania 18. It's a great match & nobody jumped on a flaming announcer's table covered in scorpions. I liked Mick Foley's matches too but he wasn't Shawn Michaels. Without the insanely dangerous stunts, he couldn't have made it in the business. The same way Hogan relied on his look & charisma. They both have a point.
@@RG-lr4pkas opposed to finger pokes and leg drops?
This is just one of many times Hogan would sit down and blatantly make himself seem so much better than his peers. Of the countless shoot interviews out there among former wrestlers when referring to Hogan, it’s crazy how you get such a strong sense of how Hogan was the kind of guy to shake your hand and call you brother to your face and then stab you directly in the back.
Hogan was there because he would flex his muscle on management to be protected.
Oh behold in awe and terror of Hulk Hogan's leg drop of doom
At least Mick Foley never had to use steroids
🤣 Great Entertainer is Correct and Lou Thesz Said: the same thing. Mick knew how to Wrestle, Perform, Brawl and be a High Flyer.🤛🏽
Mick got that dad bod shape
I really appreciate how Mick stands up for himself while also being respectful. Hulk Hogan is just being a jerk who's trying to make himself look great.
He wasn’t respectful he roasted him and hulk deserved it 😂
@@noicemate9111that was one of the kindest shoot interviews I've seen about Hogan
Hulk has a lot of nerve to say some shit like that. He couldn't hang with a prime Cactus Jack.
Leg drop and he's done brother
@@lukesmith9692 that's the sad truth Luke. Hogan never did the job for Foley.
In the Circus of Pro Wrestling, you have something for everyone. The Trapeze Artists and the Lion Taimers, the Strongman Act, and the Human Cannonball not to mention the Freakshows. Not to mention the morality plays of Beauty and the Beast and the quest for the championship.
Everyone is needed to play their own roles and shut their mouth.
That's poetry right there
I love this description
Mic verbally did to Hulk Hogan what Ice Cube did to NWA in No Gasoline. He straight up buried him deep in that interview bruh lmao.
i'm surprised hogan took the shoot mad respect for mick, mans a priceless gem.
It’s weird too for Hogan to take a shot at him because one of his best friends was Brian Knobbs who had almost the same body type as Mick
If the Hulk is so into respect he lost mine when he put his messed up family on television. The divorce. His sons car wreck. His Galker lawsuit.
It's about making money brother
@@lukesmith9692 Then that's sad af honestly. Cuz I guarantee that crap show didn't make much.
Don't forget bout his steroids.
1:15 - That right there is probably the deepest cut I've heard heard from Mick Foley. Just wow. But hey, Hogan brought it on himself.
I thought 1:40 was deeper.
Excellent response. Mick 4 Life
They were both entertaining in their own way 🤷♂️
I agree Tyler
Except Hogan wasn't entertaining at all. Watching one of his matches is like watching paint dry.
@@SirRavixofFourhorn That's your opinion. In the 80's Hulkamania was running wild. His popularity was off the charts. Fans loved watching him wrestle. He was the draw in WWF. So...
Meanwhile Foley was champion multiple times and Nitro never beat Raw in the ratings again...But yea Terry, fingerpoke of doom...
Genetically speaking Mick was never gonna be like Hogan so he did what he had to/was able to, to make a life in the business he loved. Yes he wrecked his body but so did Hulk. Hulk is terribly crippled from dropping the leg for 30 years. At least Foley is crippled from spectacular bumps, not the lamest finisher ever.
I mean Hogan did work 400 days a year!
That's not impressive when you're mostly talking. I'm 36 , I don't remember Remember Hogan for matches I remember him for promos. I remember Mick for matches. I watched wrestling for the matches not the promos
Also was in 2 places at the same time
He also invented the internet, saved Make a Wish children at Wembley Stadium, auditioned for Metallica, discovered gravity, deflected asteroids away from earth with his 28” pythons, and created the best coq au vin with braised lardons the world has ever seen.
I doubt Hulk Hogan would be saying all this stuff about Mick, in front of Mick. The stuff that Foley has done to himself throughout his career is enough for me to respect him. Same thing goes for being a best selling author and continuing to put in the work elsewhere. Hogan more or less had everything handed to him because of the look and name alone.
While you slept I did ALL THE STERIODS!
While he was sleeping eating cheeseburgers 😁😁😁
Didn't prostitute your body, Hulk? Now you can't walk.
I'd personally consider steroid abuse to fit the vision the owner had for you would be prostituting your body, but maybe that's just me.
While Mick still can. That’s the funny part of it all 😂😂😂😂😂
Being a pro wrestler is about making money and both of them did very well. Congratulations to both of them. Hogan is broke up now and so is Mick so in the end it didn't matter if you worked out in a gym 30 years or not.
Mick is broke?. How???
@@kovesveta4238 You did not read it correctly. He is not financially broke. His body is broken down bad knees,bad back,bad neck, ect and so is Hogan with 8 back surgeries,both knees replaced and both hips replaced. They both have money but their bodies are broke up
Anyone that ever really watched either of them knows Mick is the real legend!
I love him even more for saying this 🖤😂 Mick speaks the truth
Hulk Hogan is training by taking cocaine. 5 moves of doom. He has 7 moves in Japan. His promos were just flexing and brother.
Mick Foley could wrestle and not just "glass and fire". He had really fucking good ring psychology, he could do a real promo.
Hogan is such a mark for himself. Mick Foley has our respect.
Mick made it to superstar status by eating those “ cheeseburger’s and m&ms “ so what’s hogans point. They both made it huge by different methods I guess hogans is “always” the better method . Meanwhile I bet way more folks love mick a lot more than HH Jmo
They are both artists who got over in their own way hogan was out of line randomly attacking foley
Not really. Hogan was pushed to the moon because of his height and muscle. Mick wasn't pushed. The fans pushed him not the company. Hence the reason he is still loved by the WWE universe, while hulk will always get mixed reactions.
Mankind was my favorite wrestler during the Attitude Era. Hands down!
Foley’s worst match is better than Hogan’s best match
Hollywood Hogan 4-Life!
The worst member of the nWo...including Vincent
Foley was awesome
Foley elevated so many wrestlers to the main event - Triple H, the Rock, Orton, Edge, etc.
The ironic thing is I think at this point Hogan is more broken down than Foley
Doing shitty little leg drops and no selling your opnnents moves by "Hulking Up" of course was embarrassing to Foley. Then Hogan has the nerve to say "I didn't need to destroy my body." He was never EVER gonna do that anyway, Hogan was too busy getting his way from McMahon. Just like when he straight up lied about Undertaker injuring his neck, going back to cry to Vince which led to Hogan pathetically winning the title right back from Undertaker after only 3 damn matches Taker got to spend as champion in 1991. Anyone who thinks Hogan actually got injured in their Survivor Series match needs to go watch, the proof and match are literally on CZcams. Taker's knees hit Flair's chair while Hogan's head and neck weren't anywhere near it. Hogan girating around while wrestling at the speed of an 80 year old man may have entertained '80s kids, but Hogan's matches always bored the hell out of me and they looked more predictable and faker than anything that came from the PG era everyone likes to bitch about.
Don't forget the claim that Hogan legit paid off Nick Patrick to mess up the scripted fast count against Sting (that screwed up many months of buildup) just because he wanted to look like he won fair and square.
I mean they both make good points. Was Foley really entertaining in the ring? Absolutely, but at the same time his over the top wrestling style ended his career early. while hogan took the safer and more boring route by not doing anything over the top, which extend his career.
True, but fans never got “bored” of Mick. By the early-mid 90’s, people were sick of Hogan and his shtick. I watched the championship match with Undertaker, and people were chanting for him over Hogan about halfway through. His inflated ego, his whiny fits to the bosses when things didn’t go his way, his complete refusal to help out the younger guys (unless he got a massive paycheck or something out of it) and actively hamstringing other guys made other wrestlers hate him. It’s why he had to go heel in WCW and latch onto NWO, because his “Real American” gimmick and 5 basic moves was played out and wasn’t selling tickets anymore. Mick kept it interesting from day one until his last day, whereas people were so sick of seeing Hogan at the end and watching him piss and moan until management let him have yet another belt that they couldn’t stand it.
@@heathermillsphantomlimb9314 well keep in mind foley also rotated between 3 gimmicks, where hogan had 1 gimmick for 15 years.
What year was this filmed?
Deceptively good shape is a perfect description for Mick Foley 💪💪💪
Hulk hogan just embarrassed himself.
Mick Foley was eating cheeseburgers 🍔 and M&Ms.. I was training.. No disrespect 👎🤡
He isn't lying though.
Not every wrestler has to be a genetic freak. They come in all shapes and sizes.
@@FAITHandLOGIC Yea... and some come in cheeseburger and M&M sizes, and copy off of Abdullah The Butcher and Terry Funk.
@@vcvortex6356 well first off I can't stand when somebody disrespect someone and says "no disrespect ".. that's passive aggressive and weak.. 2nd .Foley carved out his own niche and did what worked for him
@@FAITHandLOGIC And more fans would rather see somebody physically fat than looking like a coach potato.
aka "my back is jacked up already? have you seen 2002 me walk? my leg drop night after night year after year has been far more damaging than being thrown off the hell in a cell cage"
Hogan drew money, Foley did towards the end of his career. But still nowhere near what Hogan drew
Well let me tell you something Micker, I was roiding dude, 2 hours everyday jack. Needles would literally run out of juice in my pthyons brother. Me and Beefcake would swap wives brother after matches and jump on the harley dude. This interview doesn't work for me brother.
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Hilarious. You win the day!
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Hulk‘s matches were a kid’s Saturday morning cartoon. Mick’s matches made adult men gasp
They didnt make me gasp. They made me say who mick is truly an idiot. He has to do all of this car crash television because he isnt a good promo and he isnt a good wrestler. So thats why he has to resort to constant dangerous spots. He and ecw helped ruin modern day wrestling. Thanks alot mick. good job not
Who was a bigger star mick or hulk? Yeah thats right hulk was. Not some weirdo jumping off cages because he was so attention seeking.
@@fatherdamien69 Hulk was a different era. Attitude fans don’t really care all that much about him to be honest. I remember him in WCW getting severely injured during Spring Stampede and winning a title with a finger poke of doom. No wonder WWE won the Monday Night Wars. He was great for his time, but he should have retired decades ago. Mick Foley is a legend for a reason. Because he gave more to the business and didn’t need to bury people or poltic backstage to give memorable matches. Hulk’s great, but I wouldn’t wanna watch any of his matches over a Foley match. You’re probably a mark for bodies, which is fine
@@fatherdamien69 Who's the bigger star now though? Mick dumbass.
@@MrWadewynn They literally wrestled in the same era. As a matter of fact, Hulk wrestled longer.
Mick Foley would have died for the fans, who else can say that ❤️🏴
Mick is the absolute greatest!
Micks just jealous he didn't play bass for Metallica 😢
😂😂😂😂😂
You don't often see Foley be upset, but clearly Hogan's words got to Foley and he retaliated in a beautiful way I think.
Atta boy Mick!! Give the Dude the real DUDE LOVE!! 😂
Proof that Hulk Hogan was only in it for himself. Instead of being happy for Foley and being supportive of him, he talks about all the crap he's done and insults other wrestlers like the "Whiny girl in the porno film" he is. But then again, we're talking about Hulk Hogan. I don't think he has any respect for anyone that doesn't worship the ground he walks on. Mick Foley will always be better than Hogan, in my opinion.
I'm siding with Mick lol. I can't name a Hulk Hogan match that I'll just go back and watch.
Hell in the Cell @ KOTR '98 and the I Quit match of Royal Rumble '99 are two of my favorite matches of all time. And both involved Mick.
Hogan vs Rock , Hogan vs Warrior?
You can side with mick, but hogan made way more money and was way more successful then mick ever could have dreamed to be
Hulk Hogan is gay bar champion
HULK WAS AN ENTERTAINER NOT A WRESTLER. LEG DROP STEROIDS
@@chadk890 nope. I don't go back and watch those. Not even Hogan vs Andre.
Hogan was the reason the industry took its biggest losses. Mick is one of the guys like The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin that brought it back!
Hogan started the 2nd boom. Austin was barely elevated to WWF Midcard status when the NWO started. The Rock was getting booed out of buildings for about a year when the boom was under way so let's not pretend that these guys were the reason for the boom(they did take it to another level, but they didn't start it).
@@freebachelor5060 You're so wrong i won't even debate this with you lol good day sir
@@freebachelor5060the nWo was already over when Hogan joined. Sure, his name value and heel turn boosted it, but Hall and Nash did the legwork. And don't forget that Hogan didn't even want to do it and had to be persuaded to do it, with everyone else being kept away from him in case he changed his mind. They even had Sting as a plan B third man in case Hogan flaked out on the night.
I always remember whenever Ventura was saying that Hogan was afraid to go to Minnesota whenever Ventura was Governor because he was worried that Ventura would get him arrested.
In a death match, he probably would have torn Hogan up like a thanksgiving turkey
Too funny 😂😂😂😂
Hogan has been involved with more successful angles than any other wrestler in history and to my knowledge the only person he injured was himself with the legdrop
that is partly because he is the biggest back stage pollitician in wrestling history.
@@jimmccormick6091 nope. He was drawing more money than everyone else. A subtle difference.
Putting Bret over Hulk for example never made any financial sense. Bret is not what makes money.
Hogan definitely drew money for himself and for the business but god go back and watch any of the wrestlemanias he was in he was shit ass awful in the ring. I watched that match he had with warrior the other night at WM 6 and that match is one of many embarrassment shit stain moments in the history of the wrestling business. What sad truly sad is that wasn’t even the worst match those two stiffs had together in the ring. 😂😂😂
@@heavyartillery-qm5hu yeah he drew big in wcw from 94-96, and don’t get me started on his TNA run. And remember when he tried to sabotage the undertakers career and claim he hurt his neck with the tombstone on the chair?
Hogan is a fabricated douche plain and simple.
@@heavyartillery-qm5hu This is the Hogan burner account, brother!
Mick didn't even need to look good to become a legend to the buisness. Thats just how good he is.
Thankfully Terry has apologised to Mick ( In person ) over this and quite rightly too.