How to set a subwoofers crossover frequency
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- Adjusting a subwoofer's crossover frequency and level to perfectly match the main speaker is not always an easy task. What frequency is best to start at? If you want to learn more, grab a copy of Paul's new book, The Audiophile's Guide. www.psaudio.com/products/the-...
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Turn it up untill the wife complains, then turn it back down a little untill she stops complaining
LMAO 🤣
My wife and I differ regards to volume levels
Give this chap a cookie
Gold.
haha holly shit this is accurate
“And remember, I don’t wanna hear the sub, I wanna hear the main speakers have bass” 👌
I understand maybe 10% of the content on this channel but I always appreciate the insights given, thanks
No shit Me Too!😂
I am on the same boat
It’s like listening to one of my old college professors! I still haven’t a clue what they’re saying 🤣
The best explanation I have yet heard for setting up a sub. Simple and clear no fuss.
I agree
Thanks! Good video, you get to the point and make it easy to understand.
That last statement taught me everything about bass settings🔥🔥🙏🏽
Another method, if you have access to two smart devices (phone, tablet) is to install a tone generator or subwoofer tone app on the second device and a sound level meter (NIOSH or similar) on your phone. Test the speakers alone to see how low they go first. When you find the frequency where they drop off about 6dB, set the sub crossover at that frequency or a little lower. Then do a frequency sweep to set level of the sub.
I would stick with the crossover point, but adjust sub volume level as Paul says - turn it up til you hear it and then back down slowly until you don’t. Perfecto!
The best sounding crossover frequency of the sub and level settings - including phase - largely depends on your listening room. But more importantly, you should not hear your subs when listening to chamber music - or the acoustic guitar and hand-held harp intros of your favorite death metal tracks before the electric bass guitar and the kick drums kick in.
Amazing Instructional Video My Friend. Your advice makes sense & to the point.
Good advice, great video series!
that was just an awesome answer to the question, thanks for explaining that!
My pleasure. Thanks!
Thanks Paul!
Perfect explanation! Many thanks, sir!
Great question . I tell folks to tune the subwoofer until it disappears and the mains sound Bigger . It's the most simple way I found to explain it. As far as frequency I have then start at 120hz and work down . Most people do not understand bass and working down at least un my exp. tends to be better absorbed by the average non audiiphile.
THANK YOU, I just did the subwoofer crawl and set up my Rel yesterday!
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@@johnsweda2999 Mine is just below the neighbor's bedroom window.
@@soulshinobi that's just the best place for it
We all become crying, crawling, babies when we get new toys.
great advice, thank you
Just getting into hifi this helped a lot
I actually do the exact opposite, at least at first... I start at a higher frequency and dial it down lower. I can hear the redundant sound, and when I hear a certain track where that happens, I turn the x-over down. I do go back and forth - going up and down when I get tracks where the main speakers are close to the bottom. I usually do this with the gain on the sub turned up. After I get the x-over dialed in, that's when I focus on the gain level. Just an alternative that's worked for me many times. Maybe that might work better for someone with ears like mine for what it's worth.
Hi, we have a 2 channel 31 band EQ with a crossover on the back so it sends left mix, right mix and sub outputs to the active speakers. Our speaker set up is thr typical small band sub with a pole with the mid high speakers on top. We send the left and right to the top speakers and the sub to one of the subs and then send a link cable to send an identical signal from one sub to the other. Pretty straight forward. My question is, the crossover frequency can be set on the back of the 32 band eq, therefore what should we set the sub cut off frequency to? It has options of between 80hz and 200hz. Thanks.
I always have my Mirage FRX8 in 50hz and sounds 👍!
This is probably the best explanation of this lmfao thank you like Ik what to listen for and do after theirs some much noise out their on this
I have a question, on my 5.1 AV receiver I set front, center and surround to small, front crossover set on 80 Hz and center and surround set on 120 Hz (here I am not sure if I made the right choice). How to set my surround and center speaker crossover if in speaker specification say that: center and surround frequency range 150 Hz-20.000 Hz? 80 - 120 Hz isn't too low if the frequency range of the speakers is between 150-20,000 Hz?
THX for posting I'm using DBX Driverack for live sound, not sure where to setup xover points
Hi love your describing on setting frequency on a sub
I'm very nervous to be honest my first time ever going fully Active, I bought 2 of the new series RCF'S 935A and on a budget I bought 2 of the Behringer B1500xp subs
right now I'm just Aux feeding the subs, told this not the way to go and should be going direct from my mackie pro16fx V3 mixing desk to my subs and from subs to my rcf, but I'm afraid to lose my clarity and full potential of the tops if I set the subs incorrectly, can you please help me here to understand and match and set up this system, thank you in advance,
What gain setting would thr sub be at before starting to adjust the crossover frequency dial?
Even with mains from Vandersteen that reach down to 31 hz, they really open up and dynamics are much improved by sending everything below 60 or 80 hz to the subwoofers.
Makes sense. I would imageine that the lack of slow, far movements helps the membrane to retain better accuracy with the fast, small movements.
Hi I have Definitive Technology BP-8020ST. These speakers are speakers that have built in plug in 8 inch sub woofers. Their frequency is about 20 to 30 thousand. Normally, I have used the speakers plugging in the power for the subs in the wall, without plugging the sub woofer cable from the speaker to the amplifier receiver. Doing it that way the base was pretty good. So, I thought I would ALSO plug each of the 2 subwoofer speakers special sub plug into the receivers sub 1 and 2. I am not sure how much of a difference that will make seeing that they are already subwoofer powered? Am I supposed to unplug the subwoofer part from the walls if I am hooking up the subwoofer to the subwoofer one and two of the receiver? Right now I have the subwoofer speaker plugged into the wall and the subwoofer cable is plugged into the receiver as well. Secondly, what would I set the crossover frequency with these type of speakers. Thanks.
Hi there. My speakers are set at 120hz. They are small speakers Polk Audi RM95s.
What should my subwoofer crossover be set at? Love your videos btw.
Paul, Is that a Tascam DA3000 DSD master recorder in the rack ? If so do you like it ,I'd like to get me one of those.
Hi,Im using only front left and right channel in avr.and not using subwoofer.Can i set the crossover to 40hz for these speaker?
I have some Monitor Audio speakers that are listed at "Frequency response (-6dB)"
Free field 45 - 25,000 Hz
In-room 35 - 30,000 Hz
My sub goes down to 30hz, yet every time I run Audyssey, it puts my crossover at 40hz. Is that it saying that 40hz to 30hz should be the sub? Would I be better off setting my fronts crossover to 60hz rather than 40hz as Audyssey keeps saying?
Thanks
How does this correspond with the level adjustment at the same time?
Thank you very much for the explanation. A demo would have been great, just to see how you measure and set things... Personally I don't know much about audio technology, but my ears can very well distinguish hi res audio from MP3/CD/OGG/etc. (I'm looking for classD MM phono stage preamp and an amp, around 50W x2 + 100W if not 100W x2 + ???W).
great answer Paul always had a problem getting the subwoofer and main speakers to blend in .think ive got it correct this time .best to you Achie .😊😊😊
Sounds like he's assuming the setup he advocates with no crossover on the mains. Then you have to set the sub to the mains. However I noticed a Yamaha A/V receiver spec'd the high pass as 12 dB and low pass as 24 dB/octave -- this means it is also meant to make partial use of the main speakers' rolloff rather than having to be set well away. Some other units don't give any specs.
The folks at JBL recommended my low pass be set to 63 Hz. My mains are flat to 35 +\- 3db so I set high pass to 50 Hz snd this works well. Yet there’s one more thing to all of this snd that’s what gain is set in the sub. Mine is set to deliver the same SPL as mains.
Most subs have 2 knobs.. volume and crossover. What should the volume be set at when we are testing for the correct crossover? And then do we change the volume once the crossover is set correctly? Or does the volume knob affect the crossover tab??? These are questions no one ever answers because when I'm testing the crossover, the volume affects at which point I hear the sub as its own entity. So idk which should be set first or how the volume should be set in order to actually set the crossover. That's been the question I've been stuck on.
you should read the comments hre, lots of great advice here.
if you still want to know some specifics then adjust volume of subwoofer first, the crossover, and crossover point stays fixed with volume, but increasing volume causes the frequencies above crossover point to be elevated so it can sound like its crossed over higher that it is. you also did not mention phase adjustment, so its 3 knobs on most subwoofers.
@@sudd3660 The phase is not a knob.. i believe it's usually a switch going from 0 to 180 - thats the easiest to set.. you keep the phase that sounds strongest in comparison.
Thanks for the advice though - i did not know that! I just wished more people put that into their subwoofer tuning video because no one seems to tackle that issue of what the volume knob should be set at when tuning the crossover and then what to do with the volume after the crossover has been set
@@shawnmathew825 i none of the subwoofers i owned had a phase switch, but i know they exists, my current subwoofer has 0-90-180-270 to choose from. and a remote to do it from, that is truly the greatest thing about it.
setting up a subwoofer is fun, and you learn most from experience, if you find my post on the video it explains some things, rest you can have fun with :)
@@shawnmathew825 Phase can easy be a knob , but not on the cheaper / less quality sub`s .
On those you typically have a switch 0 or 180 degree or in little better a set of typically
0 - 90 - 180 to 270 degree .
When we talking better higher quality then you wont have those switch , you have a potentiometer
where you can adjust and finetune the phase from a true 0 to 359 degree ( yes 359 degree a full circle is
360 degree and thus is also electrical phase )
You typically have a power amp PRE-Amp Volume Potentiometer and your Filter Potentiometer and
Phase potentiometer and all is of course Knobs to allow fine tuning .
Beside this you have XLR - balanced connections and Jack plus RCA so you can set it up correct no
matter what your other equipment use .
@@shawnmathew825I totally agree with you question. Which should we adjust first?
great video thank you
Another path is to do a proper cross-over in an external DSP and let the subwoofer rule the sub bass without your side speakers messing it up trying to do mediocre sub bass in parallel. Especially small bookshelf side speakers will sound better if they don’t have to be stressed reaching max excursion due to sub bass coming to them. A DSP can also allow critical bass tweaking, EQ and phase control against room acoustics enabling a much more optimum response. One example is this: czcams.com/video/zr_oqF9jb-8/video.html
^^he gets it^^
@@poserwanabe PLUS: less strain on your amp if you "free" it from bass output. This is especially relevant if you have a medium or low power amp and want to listen at higher volumes.
@@JBrm Exactly, I have a system in my gym that uses a 100w/ch Aventage driving a pair of small Klipsch cabinets full range...I just added a 2x18 slot ported sub driven by crown microtech and when I set crossover top cabinets are much cleaner when running hard 👍👍
why is my turntable volume so low compared a CD ? I have a UTrun with a Ortofon OM10 cartridge .Thanks I love your videos.
All turntables have lower volume than CDs / CDs always have stronger signal so this is not a problem unless the turntable's volume it's too very low
also check the cartridge type MM/MC position at the rear panel of the amplifier phono input
I use a Butterworth 48 slope on my subwoofers HPF
That way it instantly cuts 30hz and bellow
Good advice!
Hi Paul, really enjoy your comments and suggestions. Really inspiring, and I also bought book and CD. May I ask whether you adjust crossover frequency depending on the kind of music and/or the level of loudness? Thx again, Michael
I'd go and cross over to the sub woofer ...woof woof woof 😎😎😎
My Infinity RS12 Servo Sub is set at 60hz and volume 9/10. Daisy-chained off my power amp with left and right RCA's. Sounds amazing with my Mission M35i's for a modest 2.1 channel setup.
i have an easier and more accurate way:
people have a dac right? connects a digital source to it, like a pc, then google "tone generator" first hit should be the best one from szynalski site.
now just sit in your listing position and drag the frequency slider around and now you can hear all that the speaker sounds like in the room to your ears. you quickly hear when the main speakers starts to roll off, read the frequency and set the subwoofer to that number on the back of the sub plate amp. some more frequency sweeps and you can confirms if it is right. then volume to match speakers and do some quick phase testing on subwoofer to do the last little bit :)
when its all done its about as even response as you can get for now, if you get some loud parts in subwoofer range lover the volume a bit. its better to have dips than peaks.
I love to use my analog synthesizers to do this. Just sweeping the room for deficiencies or standing waves.
may i please inquire as to why an engineer such as yourself would not utilize a frequency spectrum analyzer to adjust the subwoofer(s) to the desired performance of the overall system? thank you kindly
Because he has great ears to hear
This is the problem I m having . Just bought brand new klipsch 280fa ,every one says set the crossover at 80hz let the subs do the rest ! But if I wanted that I would of bought book shelf speakers. I want my towers to be the best they can . Cutting them off at 80hz is like cutting them off at the knees. I feel they were a waste of money . Now this is for home theater ,for 2ch stereo or pure direct the settings are different
Exactly. I previously had my 280s crossed at 80hz (with a sealed SVS) because everyone said "help your receiver, let the sun do the work" but the lower kick bass you want to hear punch with music is missing that way. It doesn't sound the same if you let the sub do all the work. So if I run them large tho in multichannel stereo (my preferred music setting), I noticed the sub basically doesn't play at all anymore to augment the very bottom frequencies if set to LFE. Even if I set the crossover to 40hz for the 280s but 80hz for the rest. You'd have to run it LFE+main and that doesn't quite sound right. I'm going to try crossing at 60hz across next. I don't listen that loud anyway so the amps should be fine.
@@getdealtwithquick I have some 5" bookshelfs and just got a 10" sub that I pair with my AVR using the LFE sub out. Polk advises to set the cutoff to the highest frequency on the sub (160) and turn on LFE on the AVR and set the speakers to either small or large depending on preferences. My bookshelfs hardly give out any bass, even at 80Hz. Setting them up this way, with speakers set to Large and then adjusting the volume on the sub to blend them in has given me the best sound. Like I legit don't realize I have a sub until I turn it off and realize how much I'm missing without it, even with something like just voice.
@@Drinkyoghurt I don't doubt that it works for you in your space. IME, with a single sub setup the biggest variables with making a sub "disappear" and bass sound good for music is quality and type of sub and the room, placement and listening position. Acoustic bass I Classic or Jazz works well with a sub, not so much with kickbass heavy tracks. In my room, I've spent hours playing around with the sub setup and was OK with it. Until I tried room correction with a new AVR and switched back to full range playback for the towers, day and night improvement. In a past life, with a different setup in a different room, I ended up at the same conclusion and just never used the sub for music anymore but appreciate everyone's preferences and results will be different.
@@Drinkyoghurt Adding to the bookshelf vs towers for bass discussion. I recently had the opportunity to listen to $7.5K Dynaudio Heritage Specials through a Marantz Amp at a dealer. Absolutely unbelievable bass, no room correction EQ or tone controls applied. I had to get up and check to make sure there wasn't a sub connected. Truly impressive. Unless your room is huge or you want sub 30Hz rumble, I since no longer believe that you generally need towers to get satisfying bass.
Hello Sir.
I hope you can help me because I am struggling a little.
I'm not new to audio or Hi-Fi equipment.
But I do have a question for you and I hope you can answer this for me.
I have an audio Pro C10.
I also have a Rel storm version 1.
The audio Pro has a sub out RCA output which I put into the mono input on the sub.
The two together sound fantastic.
My question is this.
The frequency range of the audio Pro goes down to 45 Hertz in the specifications.
I understand that the 45 Hertz is restricted due to the cabinet size of the main speaker on the audio Pro.
Is this frequency range restricted by the amplifier also?
Is the sub out on the audio Pro restricted to this 45 Hertz or does it allow for a much deeper frequency range.
If you could answer this for me I would be so delighted and grateful.
I Enjoy your videos. Thank you very much.
Regard, Steve
Hard to say from the specs provided. One way you could check would be to plug the sub out RCA into some other full range speaker and see if it is all there or just the sub output.
@@Paulmcgowanpsaudio Hi Paul
Thanks forgetting back to me. I appreciate it.
One more question please.
I do not have a speaker to check as you suggest.
If I on CZcams find a frequency tester With which the frequencies range from 20 Hz let's say up to 45 Hertz, does this mean the sub out will go to 20 Hz if I can hear it through the sub?
I have tried this and I can hear below 45 Hertz on the sub with the audio Pro connected to CZcams on a frequency checker.
Do you feel this would be an anomaly or am I actually listening to the amplifier producing lower frequency sound than comes out of the main speaker because of its limitations?.
I know you may be thinking silly man. If you can hear it it must be there.
You're the expert sir and I thank you for your time 🙂
Heres the thing i got satilite speakers for main so how do i get the sub to blend in with speakers that only mid and high
You probably dont, if you turn off your speakers and only run the sub, you could raise the crossover til you hear voices in the recording, then just turn it down a bit and I would leave it around there.
@Bryan. Just cross over at whatever you feel sounds best.
Low frequency bass is non-directional so you might be able to get by with what you have.
As you can see from Paul’s mindset he certainly feels main speakers need to be able to deliver decent bass themselves. I agree. I have tower type speakers.
I once had bookshelves with a sub and I always felt mid bass was lacking. There was a gap.
If you’re happy with your bookshelves/satellites then all good. Many run the way you have set up.
Never heard of satilite speakers are they a new 🔥 Chinese brand 🔥 🔥🔥
It's better to get some good hifi speakers doesn't have to be expensive
Ive whatched like all ur crossover vids they have helped me with my cars system but problem im having is phase and lack of lows peaks are sexy.. i have a gyst of understanding on phase and time. But my deck i cant turn off my lpf filter and my amp it has a 24/db octave on its lpf.. so right now i have it running at -6 from my deck. I am working with really low signal, .200acv my amps are utalizing the .2v.6v input senstivity pre amping to tits!! But it just hits like shiet. I have never came across this problem as to i have never had a amp that has 24db slope.
I have drawn out my crossover graphs to see maximum output at what frequencies. Ive found 100 hrtz is best most low out put but still just sound horrible unless the song has certain notes. How do i get my sound back.. lol i need huge help as im stumped i mean.. i do know my lpf cant be turned off from my deck so right there thats boosting attenuated signal but like dayum i dont see a way to make it better.. maybe thinking too hard.. but ya bassicaly lpf is 6th order .. ive seen thats "speaker attenuation" (cone doesnt move rlly which yes verry true from sight. My deck has dm+, eq, and ability to swithch possition.
As well this is my first time tuning with multimeter ive tested tunning at 40 hrtz with gain then changing hrtz on the filters and it was bad so i changed to 100 hrtz gain set after that it was still bad but lows were there nothing crazy tho, went to 80 gain set not my liking, i am thinking trying 120 but like i do know my box i made is a ported box tuned to 28 hrtz, that will effect my output too wouldnt it?..
In all end tho its really comes down to fact that i cant turn off my lpf from my deck or is there another way to get back my sound without dsps or anything? I also if i +1or 2 or anything on the sub thats going to boost the lows yet bring up the highs. Which im "set" were my highs from my subs are already to my liking just the lows arent there
Running one pair of 2 10inch 2ohm dvc rockford fosgate p3 subs wired to 2 ohm (series/parralel) to its own amp, and the other pair 2 10inch 4ohm rockford fosgate p3 subs wired to 1 ohm (parralel) to its own amp. All to put out rated rms (800watts rms)
Most average size rooms if they're not size of a cathedral will not hear 30 Hz you'll be lucky to hear 50Hz it's impossible for the wavelengths interact in such a small area you're here it outside alright but not in the room. Some enforcement if the speakers against the wall will go down lower.
put your subwoofer in the corner facing the corner 45 degrees slope upwards and have it at -15 DB at 20 Hz then you might achieve 0 DB at 20 Hz if your room is big enough
Subharmonic synthesizer will help what will lower it by one or two or three octaves from 100hz
While the wavelengths are very long the ears and brain work together to enable you to hear the bass. Play bass frequency test tones of - 100hz, 70hz, 50hz, 30hz, 15hz and you will be able to tell which is the lower frequency. Even in a small room.
This is a similar effect to 10bit tv's that have colour volume greater than the human eye. But the brain and eyes work together enabling you to notice the greater colour volume on a 10bit tv compared to a 8bit tv.
My subwoofer has a subharmonic synthesizer (but with protection built-in so you can't break the sub) fun fact back in the day the popular major discos started installing subharmonic synthesizers to get better low frequency bass on the dance floors.
Paul, he didn’t watch all of your videos, if he did he would have known how to set a crossover point.
why he have to?
@@julianmarinoramos2302 obviously you r not paying enough attention on paul’s vid
I love when u say u dont wana hear the Sub u wana hear the main speaker have bass😂😂🙏🙏✌👍
Would this method be used specifically for music or will it work for home theater as well?
Room, speakers, placement has affect here.
My main speakers go down to 32Hz (I think it was) but in my room the sub plays best with them when I adjust the LPF to around 60-65Hz.
Same with my old speakers that went down to 25Hz.
When they go high, we go low.
The question that I have ... What the volume of the SUB should be? I can have my sub at 50hz , and it will barely present at , say 20% volume, but say I turn it up to 50% and it will show up, but then at that volume turning crossover to 90hz will bring it upfront even more... So this is my dilemma. Is there a recommended volume starting point, when I need to start bumping the freq up.
Volume of the sub should be at or around eleven o’clock position or just slightly less than half volume. Later on after you listen for a while (days or weeks sometimes) you adjust up or down in volume to match your average listening. It took me months friggin with this until I liked what I heard. Or you can buy one of Paul’s test disks and manual. Ultimately it’s what you think sounds good according to your setup. This kind of fine tuning on all your gear takes a lot of time. Use a CD, not your turntable unless you know what you you want well in advance. Hope that helps.
@@lobstamethank you! Finally an answer! I will start at about 50% volume on ,y RELS and THEN start adjusting crossovers. Also any ideas how not to get my floor to vibrate and boom? I’m in a room over garage so no cement floors.
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Nobody going to mention the picture of Tom Baker with the CD behind Paul? I'm curious.
We were waiting for you to do it ;-)
@@jamesplotkin4674 LOL
I listen to Hi-Fi DSD Bass techno, so all bets are off. Lol j/k
Always a problem until I got a REL, now I have no idea that there is a sub. This was with the ht1003, saving for the T7i!
Never had that problem with any sub. It's all adjustment and placement.
Unless It's a really shitty sub😝
@@Oystein87 for me it was, one of those, you didn't know what you were missing. That if the baby of the family sounds this good, big bro is gonna kick my ass. And yes, my past subs were pretty shitty!🙉
@@biggregyo Haha. I see😝 Nice to get a good upgrade👌
PS Audio = The best
Hi Paul
I think something might be wrong with me, I enjoy my subs at 150 and cut off my mains at 120.
Idk but the mid bass just slams more and the mids sound more clear.
Am I crazy 😂
Are you crazy? Probably.
Just bought the book and I CD from you. Can't wait until I get it☺
the best crossover is 1/2 octave below onset of cone breakup ;)
That "rule of thumb" holds true for a crossover frequency within a main speaker from the woofer to the tweeter for example, but not so much for a separate stand alone SUBwoofer. If you brought a subwoofer's crossover frequency up to that point, many times it would be too high of a frequency, and therefore it would sound a little bit too loud or even "boomy" because it would be augmenting too much of the main speaker's bass frequency range.
@@JoeJ-8282 Of course, I was kidding. WHIH, tho... the lowest my active sub will roll off is 40 Hz... and the main speakers cut off at 30 Hz. The sub low cutoff is 16 Hz, so 32 Hz would give me that first octave. Not ideal, but close enough for horseshoes and hand grenades. But I was only kidding about driving the woofers no near cone breakup. That be well into lower midrange, and we want as flat of an overall response as possible no matter what the crossover type or woofer arrangement.
Measure your in room frequency response for left and right speakers combined.
Crossover the subwoofer where the speakers are about 6db down, usually around 60hz on floor standers and higher for smaller speakers.
Measure combined response of speakers and subwoofer, if there is a peak at 60hz, lower the crossover to 55hz. If there is a dip, increase the crossover to 65hz.
Regardless of how it is accomplished, you are trying to achieve a flat response from 20hz up. In an untreated room this is unlikely but try to get the best balance possible, the sub should only reproduce frequencies that the main speakers can not. The only way to actually achieve this is to measure and find where the speakers you have actually roll off in the room. The manufacturing specs are pretty useless for this as the room response will always differ from the measurements.
Acoustically treat your room before you get a sub! If the manufacturer claims your left and right are flat to 40hz (at 1W 1M in an anechoic chamber) then the speakers will be a lot closer to that claim if in *your* room if your room is well treated. This often costs about the same as a decent subwoofer.....
.....then add a subwoofer, hi-fi heaven can be yours! Low room distortion is the way forward if you are buying this level of gear.... or even if you aren’t. The room adds more distortion to the listening experience than any other component.
Thank you Paul, you are the Nikola Tesla of the audio sciences! I have a million questions to ask you. I’m well overdue for a visit to your question form on PS Audio’s website.
That makes sense, subwoofer augments the main speakers.
Coming from the car audio hobby, it’s hard to resist the urge to turn the bass all the way up and make everything rattle.
I ended at 80Hz with my little sub. Even my main speakers will go down to 50Hz.
My rule of thumb is to go 20Hz higher than the lowest my mains can do.
@@BryanRuby My way is while my main speakers play then make my active 10' sub's { 125 watts only } presence felt it's about at 70-75 Hz also increasing /decreasing the sub's volume till to adjust it as perfect my ears allow it now 80Hz or 90Hz as Lars mentioned is also good but it's loud for me
Denon/Marantz home theater LPF for LFE? A speaker XO sends everything below whatever it’s set at, let’s say 80. What is the “LPF for LFE” setting for in the Bass section of the speaker menu? Now let’s complicate it with tower speakers with powered subs using LFE, an SVS PB1000 Pro, dual Def Tech Pro Cinema Sub 60 tapped into the tower speaker terminals, and a Polk PSW-505 tapped into the Def Tech high pass outputs.
60hz REL HT/1205
Measure...
Paul, I have to slightly disagree here. You need to crank up your subwoofers to 11, and then get your main speakers to try and match. Because you know, sometimes you just want to basshead life. LOL
What you advise did not mention the sub volume as depending on how loud it is set that will make a difference as to when you start to hear it over your main speaker.
yup
my PYE box was tuned for 40 HZ
i cant stand those cheap subs people play at 120 250hz its awful vocals come through the sub unless you have tiny satelite speakers use 80 or lower i agree with him 110 percent with the main speaker thing ive seen high end companies like dream media put 120 or 250 out of sub with huge to mid sized speakers wass awful you could hear a guys voice through a sub
Damn audiophile community is weird. I thought fun starts at 15hz -30hz but most of you are happy to get 50hz.
A lot of cerwin vega loud speakers can go below 30 hz. I have 3 pairs and they can all go below. We don't even use our subwoofer.
I have a pair of Cerwin Vega XLS-28 and they are great and go really low. I don't need a sub for music, but for movies I think I will try one out and see if how much better the "rumble" is.
@@filipcza we have used the sub for movies. We put it away for now because we have a train set setup and it runs through the spot the sub was lol.
Oh hell no! I want to hear my sub and I want China to hear it too!
It is a question of taste when setting up a subwoofer. It all depends on what the listener is wanting to achieve.
What the heck is that huge device Paul was leaning on ?
Ask Paul .
So in Essence, go somewhere else and lay down our coins.?
It's counter intuitive that you could spend £800.00 and more on a sub but you don't want to hear it. But you don't
sub should help you feel the music, not hear it.
Always a salesman
250hz just incase 🤣
Looks like a big amp..