The 8 Passengers Parents Have Hit A New Low (this is disgusting)
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- čas přidán 6. 01. 2022
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“You’re going to lose the privilege to eat” feeding your child is mandatory ruby, that’s what you legally have to do as a parent, feed, shelter and clothe them. That’s the bare minimum
my parents didnt and no one cared.
Actually, I have served my kid dry toast while others got taco bell because of his bad behavior.
Guess what? He never pitched a fit like he had ever again.
@@thegrumpyhorticulturist yea but ur still feeding them.
@@elizabethbennet4791 but you know better, I had the same situation and worst, and now I'm as far as I can get from them.
and not feeding them definitely won’t form eating disorders !! (i’m being sarcastic)
Hearing someone say anxiety is a choice, knowing with my entire soul and life that it is absolutely not, is sickening.
Yeah exactly like according to her it’s my choice to have violent panic attacks due to my anxiety, yeah I just really love making myself feel like shit 😂😂
Some type of anxiety is self induced for sure but that's the majorly minor form of anxiety that's comes from the unknown of a situation you are about to go into. I've experienced anxiety that I made alot worst than it should have been just because I over exaggerated how bad the situation was then once I worked up the nerve to go into the situation my anxiety disappeared buy thar is the 1% of anxiety. The 99% of anxiety is very much not a choice and ppl would do anything possible to not feel how they feel and to think these and other ppl claim others make up how they are feeling is disgusting. Sure there are ppl who fake anxiety to just feel like a victim but the ones who genuinely get anxiety have no control over it and it can be a serious mental problem that can cause serious problems in life. It's sad that just because the medical community didn't formally recognize somethings until recently means that it's not real is ridiculous. There are plenty of mental problems that havnt been discovered or formally recognized till recently and plenty of others that are still not formally recognized as legitimate for reasons unknown so alot of ppl just write it off as being made up by the ones who suffer from them .
There's a lot of science behind anxiety, but science only counts when you agree, Karen.
I sure as hell wish it was ID WISH MINE AWAY
@@theflowerhead who are you calling a Karen?
The fact that Ruby’s four siblings, mother and father don’t speak to her anymore confirms how awful of a person she is.
Wait what? When did this happen 🤔
yep.
@@BethRose Yeah when?
Thats crazy, i see she doesnt follow anyone in her family anymore
Her closest sister, Julie, has been caught liking comments about how she got sucked into that dangerous mind numbing cult.
I want CPS to give ruby "a gift of truth"
Ruby should have never had kids
I just found out about her and same
I couldn’t have said it any better! I have never ever heard of someone punishing their kids this harshly.
I hope someone will call cps on her
Yes
Accusing a 6-year-old of making 'egregious choices' is absolutely fucking hilarious
She is literally just coming out of here egocentric fase, note EVERYONE goes through that, before the age of 7/8 kids haven't developed emapthy yet. She poor kid cant even help it, its just how her brain is still wired
Eve turned 8 last September, but it still ridiculous.
@@madsbuss4667 exactly complete cognitive empathy takes atleast till early teens to develop. Poor children, at 6 they are just starting to understand their emotions
Exactly. Like- is Ruby out of her mind? At age 8 they are just learning right from wrong, and she's expecting them to act like pristine adults? And I hate to break it to her, but most kids at age 8 are going to be "selfish" and not "listen" they're little kids. As they age, they will mature.
When she was talking about her kids being selfish all I thought of was “I wonder where they learnt that from?”
Didn’t Ruby say her kids weren’t “welcomed” in her house after they turn 18? Now she’s upset about her 18 year old leaving?
100% she did. It's also funny because Sherri has always been her favorite, as she is pretty much the "perfect" child, and yet Ruby is upset about losing power over her- what will she think when she "loses power" over her other children that aren't so "perfect"?
@AB🌸 I don’t think those are “jokes” I think she was serious at the time. I think recently after Sheri went off to college she realized she can’t control them anymore if they aren’t under her roof.
i remember seeing the clip of her saying, that woman is absolutely unhinged. she makes me sick
You must mean fleeing! 😀
@AB🌸 People like that dont joke, they hide their beliefs behind acting as if they are joking, but there is much more truth as far as those statements being their core beleifs than we would ever care to believe possible. Some people shouldnt be parents. Hell you have to pass certain things in order to adopt a pet from a shelter or pet store, but people walk out of hospitals daily with a new baby without any scrutiny at all all it takes is a car seat properly installed.
Removing children from school to have total control over them is exactly what abusive parents do. They are calling them selfish but can't see how selfish they are for forcing them infront of a camera. How this people keep admitting to treating their children in such horrible ways and not get investigated by cps is beyond me.
This is giving me flashbacks to when she was bitching about the fact that her five year old's teacher called her during the day to say that she didn't have any lunch with her. Mom's answer was "She's responsible for packing her own lunch, she knows she's supposed to do that". She only point blank refused to bring her anything, but got angry that the teacher gave the 5 year old something to eat, because now the five year old isn't going to learn her lesson the way she would have done if she'd been made to go hungry like the Mom wanted.
Which is to say; this woman shouldn't be allowed to care for succulents and it depresses me that she has children.
I actually had a friend who's mom took her and her little sister out of school (they also had a 4 year old sister who didn't start yet) to homeschool them and honestly they reminded me a lot of these parents (especially the mom). They were both miserable and when they became adults they promptly ran as fast as they could and the oldest, my childhood friend, sadly became an addict. Her younger sister left and literally started having ssex in public and walking around the neighborhood with no clothes on in the night (I'm not kidding.. she got arrested for it and everything)
Edit: I almost forgot.. the youngest sister who never got to know any form of normalcy, and I'm pretty sure wasn't even allowed to watch movies and TV shows, I was told by the oldest sister that she is a carbon copy of their mother, and that she has the maturity and mentality of a perpetual 6 year old, bc that is how she was always treated and literally had nothing else to go off of. She literally only knew her parents and sisters and that was it.
It was actually pretty heartbreaking to hear her talk about it. She said that they tried so hard to save her but they just couldn't.
Edit: wow CZcams is getting ridiculous with the consoring. Apparently you can't say "ssex" spelled correctly or the simple word for not having clothes on. Absolutely absurd.
sounds about yt
cps is just horrendously under funded I know because my sister works there and she told me that they really just have to pick and choose between which child to save and which to just leave with a warning for parents..... cps ain't shit tbh.
I thought the same thing
She refers to her parenting of her daughter as a “mantle of power” gross 🤮
I know right? I mean my mother would never say the things Ruby has said about her own daughter.
Honestly that family creeps me out and it just.....something is seriously wrong and cult-like with them for sure.....it's horrifying.
@@valeryrosweld2411 ikr the kids need to be taken off them or the parents need to be jailed or something to save those kids lives, I'm legit crying rn I just want to hug them and give them a loving home that they never had 😔
@@lyanael-awar I say both; have the kids taken from them AND have the parents jailed for a long time. I seriously cannot imagine how severely damaged those kids must've came out to be, especially with Ruby and her husband literally force-feeding their own warped ideas of how to be a "proper" parent when in reality, all we can see is like a tiny mini cult being constructed slowly, that shit terrifies me and hurts me at the same time just by thinking about what those kids could've been feeling from all this.
And Ruby is a flesh-and-blood living example that not every parent deserves to have a child.
Sounds like some the name for some bdsm shit.
It's not better in foster care
as someone who was sent away to one of those “wilderness camps”, they don’t understand how much they have now traumatized their child. i went over 7 years ago and im still dealing with the ramifications of what 103 days of abuse in the Utah wilderness did to me. #breakingcodesilence
Sorry you had to go through that. As a mother I can’t imagine sending my daughter to something like that. I’m lucky I was never sent away as a teen. I was horrible.
#breakingcodesilence
I'm so sry u had to endure anything like that- stay beautiful, ur awesome!
thank you ladies, really means a lot💕💕
Be strong 💓
It really is time to shut down the unregulated troubled teen industry. I hope for your sake, that your parents at least found one of the less abusive ones, like those used by this horrific family and their vlogging buddy, Mindy McKnight, who still lies about sending her daughter off to one for a year before internet sleuths uncovered her location and freed her.
A six year old being “selfish” is literally the parents fault. They’re a child, it’s YOUR PARENTING that shapes their behavior. It’s not a character flaw in them, it’s learned.
Fr I was just thinking “hmm I wonder where she learnt that from” 🤔
Right? Don't mention that 6 year olds are still learning self control. They are only just learning to emphasize with other people. So sometimes they are selfish.
The thing is, this is what she feels comfortable sharing to the internet. We have no idea what happens behind closed doors
yeah.. if this is what she feels comfortable with on camera, its no doubtly worse off camera.
@@Zoe_t1 how can it possibly get worse
Exactly, this is why she is in jail now!!
@@shirleygoodison4154 Yeah about time, can't believe it took this long, I just hope the kids will be alright after all this trauma
this situation is honestly so sad like she was recording this stuff the whole time.... not sure why it took this long smh
“AnXiEtY iS a ChOiCe”
Yes Ruby, I completely agree, I mean I personally love to experience panic attacks that can last for hours, have multiple ones back to back until I pass out from exhaustion, and the dissociation that comes afterwards where I don’t even feel real for a couple of weeks :) Of course it’s entirely my choice to live like that and be unable to do normal adult things like grocery shop or get out of my house. That sounds like such a wonderful life that anyone would want to purposely live. Obviously. Why live a healthy life where you don’t feel like the sky is gonna crash down on you at any moment when you can just… continuously be on edge and barely function instead ???
Yeah! It’s my choice! I love all these things that’s why I continue to have these experiences 😄😄
Ikr! I absolutely love the thrill of not being able to leave my room for days. I love thinking that whenever someone is laughing or whispers that they are talking about me. I absolutely love feeling like no one is in my corner and to not trust anyone. I absolutely love having a panic attack over everyday things. And I'm enthralled overthinking everything. 🙃 So thank you Ruby for telling me that my anxiety is a choice. I'm so glad that you understand that I absolutely want to feel like an awful person all the time! :D
Omg same girlie!! She’s such an inspiration 🥰
sounds so lovely! i especially enjoy experiencing anxiety, just for the heck of it! i choose anxiety everyday! i love the consequences that mental health disorders have on my life!!!
@@payton6278 omg twins! 🙃
Child protective services should be able to step in for mental cruelty
They’ve been called and unfortunately did nothing
They’re rich so they get away with it
@@veronicag4593 Too true for comfort
Have a great week
it’s so sad that these children are being exploited like this :/ i hate family channels so much
They never do anything... imagine the undocumented abuse in a ton of families homes...
This woman is an absolute control freak. To take away a bed? To deny a meal? To withold the **gift** of love is B/S. I'm disgusted , the right to be loved and feel protected is every childs right. These people do not deserve children!
This is a blueprint for damaged children if I’ve ever seen one.. kids internalize a lot of emotion, way to make them feel like they’re not good enough right from the beginning of life ..
The dad admits to getting upset that Christmas was about the kids and that they got better presents than him and in the same breath says that's why they're not giving them presents. Because he couldn't control his emotions and so apparently taking something special from the kids will teach them not to be like him and teach them appreciation...
Not sure why they can't volunteer at a soup kitchen or a homeless shelter on Christmas day to teach the kids to appreciate what they have and to be selfless this time of year. Or only give handmade gifts this year. But that probably wouldn't work for the selfish dad who wants better presents than just socks...
but the kids dont have money to buy him presents?
and i cba to type an explanation this family is fucked
You just reminded me of the ohana adventure family channel 100% much better than this one, literally NO abuse at all, but more specifically for Christmas they all give eachother like 5 handmade gifts & also many gifts that cost money too. This is a ruby problem, not a family channel problem and it’s sad as hell.
3:15 I can’t believe she doesn’t realize that she’s not upset because she misses her child but she’s actually upset because she can no longer control her ADULT child. It’s mind blowing how non self aware this woman is. And that her family just allows it and lives with it.
“long periods of selfishness” yeah that’s called being a small child. and you teach them to behave differently through continuous education and correction, not through taking their christmas away!
Exactly, we'll said. So you're saying that if you educate your kids and correct them when they're wrong, that they'll eventually learn? Wow!!!!! Absolutely mind blowing. 😦 What infuriates me is that Ruby and her husband can't see through to that. They don't have to do cruel punishments to teach them a lesson. That's how you scare your kids away. I'm not even a parent, but I have siblings... I'm not saying I know everything, bc I obviously don't. But I know I would never ever patent my children the way Ruby and her husband has. It's not right.
She wont even allow the youngest to eat if she forgets to bring lunch to school, she told the teacher not to give her anything.
I hope the teacher didn’t listen and reported that to CPS…
Hmmmm.... Let me traumatize myself and know about this family
If you need a palette cleanser/want to further sate morbid curiosity RE horrible Christian Fundamentalists, may I recommend Fundie Fridays? Some episodes are rougher than others, but the Eugene Scott video is light-hearted and a great laugh. X
@@thepanpiper7715 a fellow jennonite 🙏🏻
My 5 year old has opposite defiance disorder so I understand how frustrating it can be when a child is unruly better than most moms but holy shit keeping a child out of school to clean your fucking house as a form of punishment is absolutely ridiculous.
Hey I've got PDA (pathological demand avoidance) so similar to Ur child, I just wanted to tell u u seem like a great parent just by putting up with something like that we can be extremely difficult at times. I wish I could give u a tip on how to cope with us but unfortunately I can't I will say tho telling us to do something u don't want us to just BC we need to do the opposite doesn't really work especially when we get to older ages 13+ we start to kind of understand what Ur doing and it can become quite upsetting to us or just annoying maybe even distressing if Ur child like me also has autism or ADHD. But anyway haha sorry for the rant just thought I'd say as not many people actually put up with us a lot of us r disregarded and put into care so thank u for what Ur doing
It's also fully illegal..
I hope this doesn’t come across as rude and I’m not saying you said anything bad, but if that is your child’s diagnoses PLEASE read the “body keeps the score.” It’s written by the doctor who has been trying to get developmental trauma recognized as a diagnoses for decades. He believes that oppositional defiant disorder, as well as some others, are actually clusters of symptoms from developmental trauma.(that’s a pretty short and dumbed down explanation of his opinion.) and he describes all of the studies he’s done and how developmental trauma occurs. I have a friend who’s child was diagnosed with oppositional defiant disorder after her father spent some months in jail. An experience which would intuitively cause developmental trauma(it’s not always so dramatic. Some babies have shown signs simply because their mom wasn’t big on eye contact. So it’s not always like, abuse that causes it.) and in the book he doesn’t just say “the doctors have it all wrong” he actually talks about therapies he’s developed.
I don’t want to give unsolicited advice, but it isn’t common knowledge and most psychs and doctors probably don’t even know about it.
ODD is caused by abuse. It’s been proven. It’s the parenting that leads to ODD
@@sweetascandyxoxo that is definitely bs but go off
As a 22 year old man with a union job, I infact almost cry when I have to order something myself at a restaurant from ma anxiety. Its not a choice, its an issue; and its from the parents.
Same I can’t turn it off if I could it would be off permanently
seriously. we dont choose to have this. if thats so then I definitely wouldn't say yes
@@imthethevillainofyourstory2670 Exactly! If I had the choice I wouldn’t have anxiety
I absolutely do not blame my parents for my anxiety. I know they did their best.
@@IonIsFalling7217 A good chunk of parents cause their kids to have anxiety from their expectations, I have anxiety because my parents gave me up and I was bullied for it LMFAO. Its a majority of the time the parents fault, and they ignore it when their kids express their worry. Parents need to open their eyes, I was ignored by my parent when teachers explained that my anxiety was obvious. Its a parents job to get their kid the help they need and its their fault if they ignore it and it gets worse. A majority of parents are to blame for all the anxiety kids have today. Mental health kills, ignoring it does the same thing and you cant ignore the fact its rooted in parents. Thats just ignorant.
I feel for anyone who marries into that family. She is fittin’ to be a Monster-In-law
She is truly awful and her husband is an enabler to her emotional abuse. I am all about teaching my child life lessons … but they are truly awful. I wouldn’t blame the children if they never forgave them for their childhood.
If she was my mother-in-law my children would never meet her
She's gonna be the Mother who's kids don't talk to them after they move out.
@@summerbucci I mean if she didn't want to have sex she didn't have to, but it shouldn't be used as a tool to reward people. That's stupid.
Why assume her kids are ever going to continue relations with her??
hopefully her kids will have gone no-contact before they get married. my only hope is they can stay in contact with each other after removing her from their lives
Yeah, one day she's going to have one passenger. Herself.
lolled
here’s hoping that plane crashes!
Hopefully the parents don't expect their kids to take care them in their old age...
Yea I would put them in a retirement house
@@krisppykream5101 nah they can put the self’s their
Sammie yep they can use the money they made exploiting their children
The children's basic amenities, such as food and furniture, are frequently taken away from them as punishment... no fucking wonder they are showing "selfish" behaviours! If you are denied your basic needs on the regular then of course you will take as much as you can whenever available
There is no way that Chad, Russell, or Evie will want anything to do with their parents when they are old enough to get out of that prison.
Abby and Julie as well, as far as I can see, will probably rebel as well.
Sheri on the other hand I don’t think she will
Can't stand these parents, they're genuinely so horrid!!
The woman is so clueless about mental health and it shows by her saying that 'anxiety is a choice' and her also emotionally damaging her children in various ways.
The man clearly has something going on that he still feels anger about, which is why he wants to deprive his kids of christmas (this is just speculation, i should say, but the way he talks about it so negatively i feel he has a negative thing associated w christmas time or giving/sharing). Like he says 'the cycle that ravaged my life for 3 decades', which kinda just shows he has something he feels negative / guilty about and wants to project that onto his children in order to make himself feel better.
I wish someone could educate them man, but it seems like they're very set in their ways.
(btw this is my first time hearing about this couple, so if i get anything wrong apologies, feel free to correct me lol)
Who needs bullies when you have parents like this
Family vloggers are a stain on this world. Making your children work for nothing, punishing them when they don’t, or freaking out because their paycheck grew up and moved out is sick. Not to mention the predators that target these people children. There are YT playlists, created by creeps, of the children in compromising positions- with time stamps where you can see the kids underwear and other gross stuff. AND THE PARENTS KNOW ABOUT THEM! I can’t wait to see all these poor kids age out of this crap and leave their parents with no way to make money.
And sue them for the money that is rightfully theirs.
her kids are gonna go away traumatised, she wants her kids to suffer, she isn’t a real parent and neither is the guy. her kids are gonna cut her out of their lives and i hope she regrets it
It’s funny cause the Mom’s sisters are actually really nice and compassionate towards their kids as a mom should be. They both have CZcams channels and they are your typical American family.
Saying anxiety is a choice is basically saying it's all your fault. Considering the anxiety she causes her children with her manipulative and controlling ways, it's quite a convenient opinion have. It's all their fault and she gets off scot free. 🙄
Ikr, seem to do that a lot, like they'll twist things and be confusing as heck. I know someone who always says to other people 'the world doesn't revolve around you' but somehow she always gets her own way lol, it's just ironic when people call others selfish because sometimes it's them who is the selfish one
Can’t stop thinking about these poor kids. Not a scrap of kindness in the woman
If she’s so high and mighty in her Christian hood, why is she talking about Santa Claus? I am quite religious and my dad did not believe in teaching me Santa Claus, we had presents because we were celebrating Jesus‘s birthday. So it’s just funny that she’s all and mighty yet teaching a falsehood.
adding to that, Christianity teaches love and forgiveness which she doesn't appear to have any of at all
@@jess7069 EXACTLY!! I was going to say that but I didn’t want to get to crazy all at once.
ikr its odd to me shes blaming santa while saying she wants to give them honesty.
@@Zoe-xt8jg I don’t think her brain is capable of thinking on that large of a spectrum, she’s more focused on her own anger and making herself feel at ease.
@@mommashawna707 Ye She focuses way to much on getting her point across but I don't think she realises it will never make her feel at ease. Tbh hope she does tho it be better for the kids.
As someone who has an anxiety disorder due to their brain not producing enough serotonin and hearing Ruby say that anxiety is a, “choice,” makes my blood boil. I want to be shocked that she says things like this, but I’m not. My heart goes out to her children who deserve so so so much better.
WTF... I'm in the same religion as them and she's twisting a lot of things. For example a 6 year old CANNOT SIN therefore they do not need to "repent"! Also, the "mantel of power" thing was creepy as hell
What is so ironic is by not including her children in Christmas or giving them presents she’s actually teaching them they can’t go to their parents if they want/need anything and that they are on their own and need to get it themselves. This is going to result in avoidant behaviour that will be self-preservationist AKA “Selfish”. She’s creating more of what she doesn’t want.
Ill never forget the time people were warning them about child predators and their youngest daughter because they kept showing her underwear, right after that stuff happened they made a full video of the little girl around 5 at the time out in public with no pants on and only a t shirt and underwear and wanted to act like this was normal. I felt so embarrassed for that poor child. I use to watch them until I realized how horrible this my family is, they are ridiculous.
This is emotional and psychological abuse. My own parents who emotionally and psychologically abused me weren't this bad and I'm still dealing with the trauma today and I'm almost 31! What they're doing is sick. This will only cause them to end up shriveled and alone when all their children move out and no longer speak to them. I bet you they are also trying to do monetary abuse to their children as well where the children (when old enough) have a job and then the parents take whatever wages they earn at that job saying they don't deserve money.
The children need to be taken away and to a therapist who can decide if it is best if the children should remain there. This is horrible!
I don't understand how CPS hasn't been called on them and have their kids taken away for PROTECTION. I can't imagine how their kids are going to feel when they grow up further (like well after they leave and process the trauma) and they can watch all the videos of their own abuse? Sickening.
They have been called but cps has not done anything about it.
Chad is 17 next month which makes him 18 next year and preparing to go to college I can’t wait for him to get out
Behaviourable wilderness, if I’m recalling correctly, are straight up horrible. Plenty of people who went to them talk about their experiences with them and they’re all… yeah.
What scares me is the fact she said "the gift of love from their dad and I" THAT SHOULD NOT BE A GIFT? THAT SHOULD BE A GIVEN! YOU ARE THEIR PARENTS FOR GOD'S SAKE. Making your children question their worth and place on this earth is not it.
Christmas presents may be a "privilege" but food and a bed are not- you cannot take away food or comfortable sleep from a child as a consequence of bad behavior and expect anything positive and it's actually neglect. I wish she CPS would investigate this family.
and the fact that she thinks her children need to prove that they’re “deserving” of their OWN PARENTS LOVE is absolutely insane
The kids: *trying to make the most out of a shitty situation*
Ruby: why aren’t yOU FEELING ANY PAIN
If a documentary is ever made on them you know for a fact there kids will have no problem spilling everything which will most likely be told from how it felt and seemed pov.
The worst part is those kids Mom made the kids do Christmas ad reads for their channel but took away their Christmas. It makes me sick
Lmao the kids having trauma repsonses is making her get more and more extreme e
I went to the same wilderness where we got emotionally abused, brainwashed, and my therapist want even licensed and had to flee the country at the end of my time there
love she says anxiety is debilitating... but then says its a choice. so its YOUR CHOICE to be crippled by anxiety. wow..
Total emotional and psychological abuse. Absolutely disgusting. I have a six year old. This is making me angry. She’s obviously a sadist. She and her husband need to have a serious intervention and follow ups from CPS. How has that not happened yet- with taking away beds and actual meals. Wt actual f?!?!?
“Going to give the gift of truth”
**blames Santa**
Awww man the poor kids. Imma go hug my mom for raising me like a human being!
As a person who knows lots of people with Anxiety, and has Anxiety myself, it is absolutely sickening to see a MOTHER saying that Anxiety is a choice. They show the abuse on the camera yet deny it every time someone speaks up about it, and again, it makes me sick to my stomach.
When these children become adults I can only imagine the stories they will tell their children of how their parents took away their bedrooms, made them sleep on bean bags, made them stay home from school and wipe floorboards, took away their Christmas, they’re probably going to be speechless and say “wow, you had the worst childhood”
If my little sister decided to leave one of her kids out at Christmas time, well I would be spending Christmas in jail while they had her at the hospital. These ppl are ridiculous
Anxiety isn’t a choice. You can’t just turn anxiety off like a light switch, it’s something that follows you throughout your life. Anxiety is debilitating and hard to deal with if you don’t have the right resources. I’ve dealt with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD) since I was 11 and I’m 23 now so it hasn’t been easy.
There was a scene where on of the young daughters called the older son “hot” and said she would date him if they weren’t siblings and the MOTHER agreed😬😬😬 pls save that kid
The dad is a professor at BYU Provo.. if anyone wants any insight and wants to deep dive into why this family is legit bat shit crazy needs to look into the Mormon church and BYU stories to understand why they are the way they are. It’s absolutely insane.
i figured people would factor religion into this but i'm a member of the same church as them and i'm just as disgusted as everyone else is. its so funny because the way they're raising their kids is SO EXTREME and totally against a lot of what we believe in 🤷♀
@@sunflowermae8130 they don't even talk to their family anymore so that also explains a lot
The worst thing is, she realizes that her punishments don't get them anywhere and instead of changing course and maybe using different methods, like talking this out, explaining why the rules they are breaking are important, if the behaviour is really out of the norm even therapy. They instead make up worse and worse punishments as if that's going to help anything. All they do is break their childrens spirits that way. Maybe they'll be compliant at some point but at what cost?
“The kids aren’t behaving the way **we** expect them to behave. **They** are being selfish.”
The only people who need 'the gift of truth' are Ruby and her husband.
She really is evil. She really is trying to inflict as much emotional damage onto those kids as she can while she still can and the worst thing is that it is what makes her the happiest! She is never happier than when being a control freak and causing pain. She really does need to seek help!
She was worried about losing stewardship over her daughter yet she is the one who previously stated that when her kids turn (I can't remember if it was 18 or 21!) they are no longer welcome to live under her roof! What kind of mother says that! She doesn't even deserve the title of Mum!
To be honest I don't think she has to worry about those kids moving out when they are old enough to because the way she has treated them I think as soon as they can they will run for the hills!
The way she is going they will want nothing to do with her when they are adults and I wouldn't blame them one bit!
And I cannot wait for the day when we see one of these children of these family channels sue the parents for all the money that THEY earned while growing up that they never get to see a penny of! Ruby doesn't even want to pay for her own kids college yet they have made her a fortune and technically worked for years, long hours with no pay! She disgusts me! 🤢😡
Here’s an idea, if you want your children to exhibit selfless behavior take them downtown to a soup kitchen on Christmas/Thanksgiving and serve those less fortunate. Show them how much they have to be grateful for. Give them the opportunity to witness for themselves what true selflessness is about.
Doing this to a small child is going to be a life lesson that’s going to breed resentment between siblings, and they will NEVER forget how they felt Christmas morning. They will NEVER forget how invisible their parents made them feel.
I don’t know very many 6 year olds that aren’t selfish in some way. It’s because their entire world is home/school. They don’t know anything else or how the real world works. If your 6 year old child is selfish to a degree that is causing issues it’s not the kids fault. Just sayin.
Their poor kids are growing up so emotionally damaged and they’re giving literally everyone the evidence they need to prove it anytime they turn their camera on. It’s so sad and sickening
I don't know how she can say anxiety is a choice when if she was my mother my anxiety would be caused by her
I'm guessing that Ruby forgot that in the LDS church it's known that kids under 8 yrs old aren't held accountable for their mistakes because they are CHILDREN
As someone who has dealt with adhd and bad anxiety for my entire life hearing someone say that anxiety is a choice is disgusting.
In all honesty I feel some people become parents just to have the power over somebody and that’s truly sad
“Some people may say it’s worse than the Ace Family.”
Trust me, the 8 Passengers are worse.
i’m 98% sure they are mormon as an exmo… repenting sure is taught young but children will be “pure” after baptism so like there is no point in repenting at such a young age. the trauma i have from watching children cry and have meltdowns while repenting to god after the age of 8 so the don’t go to hell…
also their kids are probably selfish because the parents with hold human necessities and the kids feel like they have to fight for everything.
Yes they are mormon
privilege to eat dinner?! FFS, Ruby. FOOD is NOT something you can use like that!
If I was a part of that family I would go no contact. She’s AWFUL
The 8 passengers are a great example of what NOT to do when disciplining your kids. What kind of psychopath tells their 2 youngest children they’re not getting love from their parents this Christmas. Good god, I hope those kids move far far away when they have the chance
The part that is terrifying is the smirk she displays when her children voice their disapproval of her “disciplinary measures.”
100% fact all of her kids have anxiety, it spikes when their parents walk in the room. The day those kids get out of there will be their first day of freedom. Then maybe they can turn her off and help them heal from their anxiety.
Why don’t they spend Christmas at a shelter or helping the homeless? They still get a Christmas but they can also see how lucky they are to have a roof over their heads, getting Christmas presents. That will be a learning experience.
"The gift of love" so basically shes admitting that her love for her children is NOT unconditional. Its something she gives as a gift, that can be taken away. Although from listening to her, i dont know if she actually understands what parental love actually is.
Hearing that 'anxiety is a choice' is truly sickening. I have struggled with anxiety since second grade (i am a sophomore in college) and BELIEVE me if this was a 'choice' I would chose not to suffer from this,. I also got diagnosed with severe social anxiety. So the fact that shes saying its a choice pisses me off.
That about the kids not having Christmas is beyond a fuzzing joke.. I've got a 5 Yr old who has been a complete little shit haha he even told me about a week before Christmas santa wasn't coming to me hahah because I wouldn't let him bounce on the sofa haha.. santa got him everything on his list because he's only 5yrs old and santa comes to little one's.xx
Exactly! They’re just kids, Santa not coming at that age is just going to make them feel like they’re bad and not good enough. If she thinks that Santa not coming this year is going to help those children she is surely mistaken, it’s going to cause more damage than help 😔 my heart is broken for those poor kids
@@shvonnemarie 100 percent agree, then people wonder why some kids turn out to hate their parents and turn into adults with problems xx
Using Santa and not getting gifts for bad behaviour is the same as saying ‘wait til your dad gets home’. You are not dealing with the issue at the time it is happening and making it someone else the bad person.
Idk how the school hasn’t called cps yet. By taking her Christmas. Taking them from school for punishment. Not giving her lunch. It’s crazy
woah. the denial of presents to two kids and then forcing other kids to open presents in front of them is some evil shit. that family who was starving there kids did that same thing, can’t remember there name.
When I was misbehaving near Christmas, my mum would tell me that I need to behave or Santa won’t come. However, she was just threatening me, she never actually took Christmas away.
My mantle of power over her...is no longer there...and I worried for her....how did that woman manage to twist this around...from insane control freak to 'well actually this is because she is now without protection'?? What the akshill hell????
If kids are consistently and historically "misbehaving", a sane parent would surmise that their consistent and historical draconian discipline methods are failing and try something new... perhaps kindness. This family smells like the Duggars and their subscribers are enablers.
I really hope someone with way more money than them calls them out and says hey yeah, let's go to court, let's see how it plays out.
Their daughter becoming an adult is scary for these parents, because their daughter will finally get to see how their life hasn't been normal.
Choosing not to feed your kids is physical and emotional abuse, and neglect. Nice, great parenting. There's no other factors such as no money, ability to get the food etc. Your children will not appreciate this 'love', especially when they realise they have been brainwashed for so long.
She’s giving her two kids the gift of love and showing the other two if they don’t behave perfectly she does not love them. wow. Just wow. What a maniac.
These poor kids will be emotionally traumatized for life.
Here's the thing. I'm diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder and so is my biological son. So is one of my adopted children. I never told tell them just get over it, but I do tell them you can never let your diagnoses hold you back. You have to push through or you'll miss so much. It's not a crutch and you can't wield like a weapon, either.
No, removing their Christmas is disgusting. Why don't you try having them donate their old thing? Having them help their siblings get a chore done? Or...because we have a lot of kids, start spending some independent time with them?
That's not the magic of Christmas you actual F&$#. My husband is a good provider, but our kids got 5 presents each. It doesn't have to keep getting bigger. That's on the parent trying to make an impression on the neighbors. We discipline our kids, but it's like "Nose and ties", which is time it, or go lay down for an hour, or because you're being mean to your sister you have to go clean her room. This is really not that hard people.
She seems like the type of person who wouldn't let her kids believe in Santa. I think she said "You won't be visited by Santa this year" so her kids won't realize how horrible of a parent she is. The youngest one of them is 8 years old. She's not even a decade old. And she doesn't "deserve" presents.
Discipline should be done out of true love (a desire to guide and teach your child), not to inflict pain or to break a child's spirit. 😥 Removing needs or causing emotional suffering is simply mean and abusive - it's not discipline.
Did her kids school investigate or have CPS investigate after the school lunch fiasco? Cuz if not that is crazy. I used to be a teacher and I would have reported that parent’s actions and mindset immediately
the way you absolutely tore them to filth, i was laughing SO hard at your commentary because seriously these parents are insane LOLOL
How have child services not taken the kids out of this family? This is psychological abuse and in some cases (not allowing the kids to eat or sleep in a bed) physical abuse and deliberate neglet!
I’m concerned about her and her husbands mental health actually…someone somewhere needs to investigate the two of them…seriously
I can't imagine how they treat the kids like this. Making such bad choices as a 5 or 6-year old that they don't get Christmas ???? I do agree with withholding privileges if the behavior is bad but I think the situation would have to be dire and close to the last option on earth to take away food and a bed to sleep on. If they have so many kids showing such over the top outrageous behavior they might want to look at their parenting skills a little more closely
anxiety is a choice more like it choose to run my life
How those kids talk about what is happening to them... The look in their eyes, they have PTSD. Sure I am not qualified to diagnose but the feeling I get.. wow, i would just go and adopt them right away, and give them their own room, privacy and generally, what a kid needs.
Christmas presents get small every year as kids get older. these adults are Flipping Evil and when they are old and grey they will wonder, what they did wrong when their kids DONT GIVE THEM THE TIME OF DAY.
I bet you the kids being “selfish” and “egregious” are just not wanting to be recorded by their parents. These parents need to have their kids taken away because they don’t deserve them 😡😡😡