Helldivers 2 HUGE Announcment Updating Spawn Rates! And This Is Getting Concerning!

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  • @generalrendar7290
    @generalrendar7290 Pƙed 28 dny +130

    30k players? That is a catastrophe! Why Sony wants to delist 180 countries is beyond my understanding. If the game dies, then this is the biggest fumble I've seen a company make!

    • @abdeladbar1125
      @abdeladbar1125 Pƙed 28 dny +13

      “Microsoft Gaming: “First Time?”

    • @Grunti42
      @Grunti42 Pƙed 28 dny +5

      At this point Sony doesn't care they made thier money, so they are on the other projects...

    • @Jhunta
      @Jhunta Pƙed 28 dny +9

      this is actually, ironically, not the first time sony has murdered a successful live-service game of theirs. they actually wrote the rule book on destroying a successful live-service game back in 2006. business courses were taught about it. and im of course talking about when sony released the death-of-a-game patch that overnight destroyed starwars galaxies, a very successful mmorpg at the time.

    • @jangomp3
      @jangomp3 Pƙed 28 dny +1

      Right. That’s literally over 90% of the world
. In a game where the entire world is fighting the galaxy

    • @alexpena4091
      @alexpena4091 Pƙed 28 dny +2

      Thing is Sony never cared about arrowhead or Helldivers or us players they care about money, money, money they are more greedy than Mr.Crabs could Sony in a different universe given some help with clearing out bugs , sure they could of last I googled Sony has 113 thousand employees could they have found a better way to help out with dealing with team killers sure, Sony could of probably said you know what you all have worked so hard on making this game if you let us see what your dealing with we can handle it all
      Only in another universe

  • @Star-ns9rp
    @Star-ns9rp Pƙed 28 dny +95

    We can see the apathy building up through this major order.

    • @Daniele858585
      @Daniele858585 Pƙed 28 dny +15

      They nerfed all fun weapons... what do you expect?

    • @ShinobiGunZ
      @ShinobiGunZ Pƙed 28 dny +16

      ​@@Daniele858585 its not that they nerfed the fun weapons its because they nerfed the only viable weapons instead of buffing the guns no one uses. Its a pve game there shouldnt be hard nerfs just slight tweaks

    • @ZeroB4NG
      @ZeroB4NG Pƙed 28 dny +5

      Players don't like bots AND they don't care about mines...

    • @assassin72_the_crimson_death
      @assassin72_the_crimson_death Pƙed 28 dny

      @@ShinobiGunZi agree if they only buffed all the other ones making said meta irrelevant it would probably spice up different play styles alot if everything was as effective as the other

    • @TheSickness
      @TheSickness Pƙed 28 dny +4

      Mostly play solo, have a physical job, just want to have fun and kill đŸ’© on a decent difficulty without going full sweat mode.
      Balance guy: đŸ‘đŸ™‚â€â†”ïžđŸ’šđŸ’„đŸ„Ž

  • @Durkan34
    @Durkan34 Pƙed 28 dny +122

    Killed the golden goose


    • @cri-rn5yr
      @cri-rn5yr Pƙed 28 dny +3

      F

    • @CloudPlays
      @CloudPlays  Pƙed 28 dny +12

      Yup

    • @Durkan34
      @Durkan34 Pƙed 28 dny +6

      Im kind of baffled by the “we fucked up the spawn rates change so we’re going to put it back how it was - but we’re taking our time to test it”. Why do you need to test it ?
      It’s not new, it’s just undoing the change?
      Is there a way back? I doubt it. They need to land the illuminate well to stand a chance.

    • @PedroSilva-te5vl
      @PedroSilva-te5vl Pƙed 28 dny +3

      @@Durkan34 IDK man i hope you are right, once all this starts going, and no MO gets completed, people will abandon ship.

    • @Dagger1Echo
      @Dagger1Echo Pƙed 28 dny +1

      ​@@Durkan34a whole new set of bugs to fix with that one I bett...

  • @kotztotz3530
    @kotztotz3530 Pƙed 28 dny +51

    💙 sad to see the low playerbase. Balancing team is another reason (I believe) why people have stopped playing.

    • @HHTwice
      @HHTwice Pƙed 28 dny +2

      Thank god all the trash is getting filtered out 😊

    • @TheSouthern1cross
      @TheSouthern1cross Pƙed 28 dny +8

      its definitely why ive almost stopped, most weapons and call ins just feel useless and frustrating to use so i end up with like 1 or 2 loadouts that are viable and just get bored af, same with armors 90% garbage because they have dumb perks i cannot change and do not want to use

    • @Alkalinus-su6sh
      @Alkalinus-su6sh Pƙed 28 dny +6

      ​@@HHTwiceyour what is wrong with this community

    • @ashenmutant1836
      @ashenmutant1836 Pƙed 28 dny +6

      ​@@HHTwice if the trash is getting filtered out then why are you still here?đŸ€”

    • @kotztotz3530
      @kotztotz3530 Pƙed 28 dny +2

      @@TheSouthern1cross Couldn't agree more. It's a PvE game, so nerfs should not be a focus of the dev team.

  • @Cheesy_Garlic_Bread
    @Cheesy_Garlic_Bread Pƙed 28 dny +82

    It kills me when they say shit like “we’ve noticed something has been off with patrols and spawn rates” like yeah no shit, what did you think would happen when you jack the spawn rates up the more solo you are?! Are we dumb?
    Like they shoot themselves in the foot and gas light us that “it’s just off”. Like no, you made a calculated decision and you’re also bad at math.

    • @rapira_i
      @rapira_i Pƙed 28 dny +5

      I think the problem was the spawn rates being at 100%, instead of being 25% per player

    • @KT-pv3kl
      @KT-pv3kl Pƙed 28 dny +11

      ​@@rapira_i the problem is the devs don't play their own game and CONSTANTLY eff up important details like placing wrong commas or adding too many zeroes to things. This is basic math something that even a bloody beginner dev should be able to do correctly and double check his own work before implementing the change. Something is fundamentally wrong when this error happens on a regular basis and it keeps happening...

    • @dogishappy0
      @dogishappy0 Pƙed 28 dny +7

      These balance devs need to be replaced. First they boost spawn rates saying it is now as intended, now that player counts have dropped they walk it back saying it isn't as intended. SMH

    • @jamestillman5247
      @jamestillman5247 Pƙed 28 dny +5

      This. They clearly don't play test before pushing updates. How? How? How? How? That is literally their job!

    • @rapira_i
      @rapira_i Pƙed 28 dny +2

      @@KT-pv3kl i dont develop the game neither do you, if it were that easy we'd get quicker patches (in almost every game)

  • @RSOxSPEC4x
    @RSOxSPEC4x Pƙed 28 dny +98

    this game changed the industry in a good way and it was a threat to industry so now it has to die. i want to cry

    • @RestoVette
      @RestoVette Pƙed 28 dny +2

      So true. feels like no matter how hard we fight back, they will take everything we love and ruin it if it doesn’t align with their agendas

    • @SHOOTER3258
      @SHOOTER3258 Pƙed 27 dny

      So cry than... its a stupid game! Get a life

  • @krustykrabkk7742
    @krustykrabkk7742 Pƙed 28 dny +30

    putting out a decent balance patch so a majority of weapons become viable and fun would prob bring back a good amount of players, they could also start building hype for the illuminate 💙

  • @mikekoch902
    @mikekoch902 Pƙed 28 dny +33

    It’s the nerfing of my entire loadout and adding new armors to pay for with no new armor passives
. That’s what it is for me. If they just added new armor passives, and stopped nerfing me gear. Then I’ll come back.

    • @grifte12172
      @grifte12172 Pƙed 28 dny +1

      It's the armor values of the enemy the green spiters are stupid!!!!

    • @kellykelly3581
      @kellykelly3581 Pƙed 28 dny

      Please be patient and come back and they are hopefully gonna change the mistakes they’ve made of recent. Let’s keep this game alive!! They are listening to us and they are gonna fix what they broke and make this game great. I do agree with your points though

    • @elCONQUEROR81
      @elCONQUEROR81 Pƙed 28 dny +1

      The fact they don’t have pre set load outs bugs me. The fact that they nerfed guns after buffed them and the enemies are harder to kill. I’m an old gamer there is nothing wrong with a 4 player co op game that is broken. Nothing at all. Castle Crashers was amazing and broken AF. Do they want us to kill things for democracy or avoid killing for Communism. I’m not sure anymore. The armor and guns are sad bro 😂 I’m not buying ANY new armor or guns I don’t need. Give us an extra strat or allow us to carry two main weapons and it takes away a stratagem. Add new stratagem. The spear is abysmal the back backs are crazy nobody shares them how they intended and with the boys unlimited range and rockets you don’t have time

    • @Pr0m3th310us
      @Pr0m3th310us Pƙed 28 dny +2

      ​@@kellykelly3581if they want their players back they better have something to give to bring us back. Arrowhead could have avoided all of this to begin with but instead chose to make the game shit over the past four months. I'm not coming back until shit is actually fixed first and not a second sooner

  • @RT-bt5ql
    @RT-bt5ql Pƙed 28 dny +32

    They need to stop weakening weapons, lower cooldown time and add new stratagems

    • @kaakabe
      @kaakabe Pƙed 28 dny +1

      well true to weapons but they need to revert ban on 180 countries and add alot good weapons and relise iluminats!

    • @HHTwice
      @HHTwice Pƙed 28 dny +3

      You need to get better at the game for starters

    • @kaakabe
      @kaakabe Pƙed 28 dny +6

      @@HHTwice pff another smooth brain "get gud"

    • @jiopa
      @jiopa Pƙed 28 dny

      @@kaakabetbf, lowering cd time is nonsense. And if getting good was a smoothbrained move, everyone would do it.

    • @BearDude2311
      @BearDude2311 Pƙed 28 dny +1

      @@HHTwice this the second time i’ve ssen you comment just acting peoples skill. stop projecting

  • @Helldiver357
    @Helldiver357 Pƙed 28 dny +23

    They also need to do something for the higher level players we have nothing to spend our samples or Rec points on and I'm now just grinding xp and farming super credits it's getting boring

    • @Doomguy11733
      @Doomguy11733 Pƙed 28 dny +5

      Go touch grass and you might not have that problem soldier 😂

    • @MisterZimbabwe
      @MisterZimbabwe Pƙed 28 dny +4

      @warioRocks I mean, that's what he saying. Grinding out pointless levels and funny money he has nothing to buy with is driving him away from playing the game.

    • @Zarcondeegrissom
      @Zarcondeegrissom Pƙed 28 dny +4

      and the lower level players are getting all the 'challenge' the tier 9's wanted making it near impossible to get any samples to upgrade and get better stuff, this isn't working at all for anyone.

    • @HHTwice
      @HHTwice Pƙed 28 dny +2

      Literally just play another game weirdo, is this your life?

    • @Pr0m3th310us
      @Pr0m3th310us Pƙed 27 dny

      ​@@HHTwice literally keep your mouth shut

  • @Symolian88
    @Symolian88 Pƙed 28 dny +82

    I have friends on the country list that can't play. We, the friends and I who can still play, are on hiatus till this issue is resolved. "We dive together or we don't dive"

    • @CloudPlays
      @CloudPlays  Pƙed 28 dny +4

      Yeah this is happening alot

    • @ArcadeJackson-us7mq
      @ArcadeJackson-us7mq Pƙed 28 dny +1

      We dive together or we don’t dive đŸ«Ą

    • @rood140
      @rood140 Pƙed 28 dny

      07

    • @eric7591
      @eric7591 Pƙed 28 dny +2

      I don't think they would have worked so hard to get Sony to reverse the account linking decision if they didn't intend to get those players back, so I'm optimistic that they will be able to come back. Hopefully sooner, rather than later.

    • @Ravenbones
      @Ravenbones Pƙed 28 dny +3

      More Virtue Signalling. Not my problem. Shoulda read the fine print.

  • @jasonjordan8376
    @jasonjordan8376 Pƙed 28 dny +10

    I wonder how many people from those countries who had the game but refunded were lost. The game was already losing players before the PSN debacle, and the balancing issues combined with the spawn rates have contributed more to the decline than the Sony nonsense.💙💙💙

  • @rbm2337
    @rbm2337 Pƙed 28 dny +23

    So the big issue I have is that the war is just a massive stalemate where Joel isn’t letting us win or lose. I stopped playing 2-3 weeks ago but when I came back the bot front is exactly the same, and what’s worse is that the bug front hasn’t been allowed to move since the original TCS activation order.

    • @jiopa
      @jiopa Pƙed 28 dny +1

      That's not joel. That's the community not caring about the war in general and just playing wherever they feel like it. Current MO is bots yet majority of the playerbase is on bugs. If you cared about war progress then play on the planet with the most people. But people dont, which is fine. People can play wherever they want. But it is not by Joel's design that there's a stalemate.

  • @5olaris88
    @5olaris88 Pƙed 28 dny +18

    I would love the spawn rates if the weapons didn't fire marshmallows.
    It would be so satisfying to chew through these hoards with some of the weapons in their prime, and more fun if the others kept pace.

    • @HHTwice
      @HHTwice Pƙed 28 dny +1

      They don’t fire marshmallows, you just can’t aim worth anything

    • @theSixPathsOfTrains
      @theSixPathsOfTrains Pƙed 28 dny +1

      Your not wrong..

  • @jmnero4447
    @jmnero4447 Pƙed 28 dny +6

    You'd expect when you progress through a game the weapons from the warbonds would be a little better than the previous pages worth of warbonds. Otherwise there wouldn't be any point in getting those new weapons. When a weapon is worse than the weapon we start with, something is wrong.

  • @broute
    @broute Pƙed 28 dny +44

    Bot rocket spam is crazy at times!! You drop in and get ragdolled all over the place. It can be a little too much!

    • @chriscobb4952
      @chriscobb4952 Pƙed 28 dny

      This happens to me sometimes and it’s absolutely annoying. When everyone is together and fighting the same target then it’s never a issue

    • @ScuzzMB
      @ScuzzMB Pƙed 28 dny +2

      Ya, I’ve started to refer to the game as “Ragdoll Simulator.” Game mechanics that constantly immobilize you and take you out of play are aggravating. And it seems to just continually get worse whether you’re getting shot by a rocket or stepping on a gas plant. It’s just not really fun anymore. The bleeding of players started way before the Sony thing exploded. This game has been brewing serious problems for a while now.

    • @jamestillman5247
      @jamestillman5247 Pƙed 28 dny +1

      Devs- "cuz muh realism"

    • @pelvist
      @pelvist Pƙed 28 dny +2

      Yea, it just seems like they tacked on an easy solution to making the game more difficult and just ended up turning higher dificulties into a massive clusterf*ck.

    • @HHTwice
      @HHTwice Pƙed 28 dny

      None of you dopes ever heard of going prone or taking cover 😂 y’all should unsintall please

  • @c_po
    @c_po Pƙed 28 dny +6

    Here is a concept that Arrow Head might want to look into.... "Rollback".
    If they are prepared to allocate resources to make changes to this 'live service' then they should also be prepared to allocate resources to monitor the release and be prepared to roll it back if it "doesn't work as expected".
    It isn't really acceptable to 'fix forward' in a live product or leave these issues out in the wild for extended periods when the feedback from the community is clear from day 1.

  • @ArchonSG1
    @ArchonSG1 Pƙed 28 dny +6

    As I have said on other sites / channels, the real issue is morale.
    The Perfect storm of Sony Fuckery (Corperate Greed / PSN issue) and AH Fuckery (making the game a lot less fun to play), morale of the people who cared about the game is at an all time low.
    Casuals will be casuals, they don't care about MOs, They just want to shoot stuff, bugs or bots and they wouldn't have noticed any changes to the game at all.
    Those invested though, are those who will try to do defense missions, repeatedly drop on Hellmire / Menkent, places where the casuals hate to go, are players who have been over the past 2 months seen repeated instances of fun being taken out of the game in the name of "Balance".
    This game is PVE and you already have difficulty levels of which level 8 and 9 can be insane even before the nerfs.
    Balancing should have been for fun, not because xxx number of people are using one weapon more than others.

  • @DoPe1906
    @DoPe1906 Pƙed 28 dny +8

    I hope we see that with other companies too going forward. If they wrong you, vote with your Wallet and your playtime. People don't understand how much power they CAN have in things like this, don't just take everything those big companies force on you.

  • @The_fastfreddy
    @The_fastfreddy Pƙed 28 dny +6

    💙 I really hope that when these issues get ironed out that the player base returns back to normal. Ever thought I've only had the game for a short period of time I love it and would hate to see it die

  • @ander_smith3309
    @ander_smith3309 Pƙed 28 dny +4

    I think a lot has lead to the numbers: the war being a endless stalemate, weapon nerfs of peoples fav guns again and again, patrols being set to discourage how you want to play, and lastly the player base and attacks on people that speak out against something in the game.

  • @lilsipthemonster
    @lilsipthemonster Pƙed 28 dny +5

    The balance department and the illumination taking so long to come to the game are the main reasons why folks don’t care for the major orders and just aren’t playing the game at all

  • @pcast01
    @pcast01 Pƙed 28 dny +4

    Yeah that sucks, I am still playing the game every day and loving it. I hope this turns around soon. 💙💙

  • @spencerwhite7260
    @spencerwhite7260 Pƙed 28 dny +18

    💙💙💙 Finally solo'd my first Challenging Operation last night. Getting better. Getting stronger. ALL for Super Earth!

  • @MurdocNiccolas
    @MurdocNiccolas Pƙed 28 dny +8

    "Death" means nothing anymore, just something you youtubers throw around all the time

  • @Raynis1
    @Raynis1 Pƙed 28 dny +5

    💙 I hope HD2 recovers. I really love this game.

  • @LSRibs
    @LSRibs Pƙed 28 dny +5

    Most of my friends, who were playing for hours a month ago, stopped playing because they kept nerfing the "fun guns" to play. It's sad. I do hope they reverse some of the nerfs "railgun looking at you" so that they will come back and we can get more soldiers for democracy.

    • @jiopa
      @jiopa Pƙed 28 dny

      Have u tried it recently?

    • @Pr0m3th310us
      @Pr0m3th310us Pƙed 27 dny

      ​@@jiopatried what? Cause as someone who still plays this game a lot, both the railgun and this games state of balance are absolute garbage

    • @jiopa
      @jiopa Pƙed 27 dny

      @@Pr0m3th310us the railgun

    • @jiopa
      @jiopa Pƙed 26 dny

      @@Pr0m3th310us what exactly did the old version do that the current version cannot?

  • @Neknesch
    @Neknesch Pƙed 28 dny +4

    My guys and me also stopped playing HD2, rarely we jump into 1 or 2 rounds, but not because the stuff that you mentioned, rather because it just got boring doing the same stuff again and again and again, they NEED to drop actual new content 💙

  • @Hawkcap
    @Hawkcap Pƙed 28 dny +3

    Can definitly feel the dip in the player base, hope this whole mess with people being locked out of the game gets sorted out soon 💙

  • @clements3715
    @clements3715 Pƙed 28 dny +5

    I think Sony is such pissed off by the fact they got owned by player that they are willing to kill that game to send a message. Such a shame for a company to blanketly do that.

    • @receivegreatest6802
      @receivegreatest6802 Pƙed 28 dny

      Yea they don’t care about the money at all‌ Sony is extremely spiteful

    • @clements3715
      @clements3715 Pƙed 28 dny +1

      @@receivegreatest6802 you don't understand, customer winning over a mega corp is bad for business. Controling customers is more valuable then selling games.

  • @Feldsomethin
    @Feldsomethin Pƙed 28 dny +4

    Any MO involving the bots is like pulling teeth because the kill rate compared to bugs vs bots is drastically unbalanced. Until they fix bots overall we'll continue to see numbers in the crapper.

    • @theSixPathsOfTrains
      @theSixPathsOfTrains Pƙed 28 dny

      I mean all we had to do is kill bots like geez run some defence missions or something. I don't see how we got so close and tripped over the finish line. Smdh I wanted my anti tank

  • @Noctruenal
    @Noctruenal Pƙed 28 dny +2

    The main thing that’ll kill the game is the game bugs, weapon balancing, and then eventually the lack of content. I haven’t touched the game in a week or so cause honestly it’s just been feeling dry and I used to play the game literally everyday

  • @RoyalRedX1
    @RoyalRedX1 Pƙed 28 dny +8

    It’s kill 5 hulks

    • @Zarcondeegrissom
      @Zarcondeegrissom Pƙed 28 dny

      thanks. the new patrol spawn rates should make that easy at dif 3, however the weapon nerfs, hmm.

  • @koutaXkaede
    @koutaXkaede Pƙed 28 dny +1

    In another world line, Helldivers and Titanfall are massively successful and beloved franchises. Why cant i have anything nice

  • @assassin72_the_crimson_death
    @assassin72_the_crimson_death Pƙed 28 dny +295

    blame the balence department they ruined the fun of the game making every enemy take 2 magazines from each gun to kill one enemy if anyone agrees like this coment

    • @lukemehalick370
      @lukemehalick370 Pƙed 28 dny +39

      I don't agree. This game is easy enough that almost any load out can work in a squad.

    • @assassin72_the_crimson_death
      @assassin72_the_crimson_death Pƙed 28 dny +21

      @@lukemehalick370 good luck finding others who will agree with that sentiment

    • @CloudPlays
      @CloudPlays  Pƙed 28 dny +19

      Hmmmm not sure if I agree with you here mate, even the CEO has spoken about it

    • @ApparentlyJade
      @ApparentlyJade Pƙed 28 dny +7

      Exaggerating a bit much mate.

    • @Bertintremors
      @Bertintremors Pƙed 28 dny +14

      I don't understand the complaints from people. The game is pretty balanced and helldive difficulty, while hard, can be beat pretty routinely without issue. Get gud and stop complaining

  • @walczak9862
    @walczak9862 Pƙed 28 dny +6

    I honestly feel like the player numbers dropping is also due to the lack of meaningful content thats been added to the game recently. We had the sony thing happen too but i think a lot of people really want the balance changes but also we really want to see new enemy types and factions. I know i was super excited and still am about the potential worm enemy for the bug planets and i want them to start adding stuff like that. I think it would boost interest in the game more.

  • @kylecapill2958
    @kylecapill2958 Pƙed 28 dny

    Im happy i found this channel it simplifys what i cant be bothered to read or find the updates keep up the good work 💙

  • @pujaz
    @pujaz Pƙed 28 dny +2

    💙 so sad to see so few of us left playing the game and all because of this stupid situation

  • @pushrod3022
    @pushrod3022 Pƙed 28 dny +6

    New spawn rates are fine, I like being pushed and overwhelmed. I just want my weapons to be strong enough to give me a good fighting chance


  • @glitchguerrillas
    @glitchguerrillas Pƙed 27 dny

    đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„ thank you for the info and everything cloud plays!

  • @user-xb1bg1ld4s
    @user-xb1bg1ld4s Pƙed 28 dny +1

    This game has brought me so much joy over the past couple months and reinvigorated my desire for gaming. To see it die so quickly is absolutely heartbreaking

  • @mattsme13
    @mattsme13 Pƙed 28 dny

    💙🌎 Hoping the community can bounce back. We need more Helldivers!

  • @spartan9458
    @spartan9458 Pƙed 28 dny

    Thank you for the continued updates Cloudplays, I really appreciate your videos! Keep it up!
    I find the Bots easier to fight now than the Bugs (at mid difficulties) since the spawn rate changes they last made, as well as the changes to how the bugs attack. Hunters used to only hit you once maybe twice, now they three and four tap you which will instant kill you in most armors. And there are just too many of them if you don't have a full squad. Verse the Bots, even at lower numbers most of them stay back a bit, so you can just work around the spawns via explosives and ordinance.
    Bots are Easier to fight now than Bugs at mid difficulties (Still harder at higher difficulties) which is really backwards. In general the bots should be harder to fight period, but because they don't just run up and swarm you, they are now easier at mid difficulty and they don't triple and quad tap you in the head as average bots anyway, they fire once each.
    They really need to fix the bug spawns and/or how they fight, if the hunters are going to just annihilate you even in heavy armor now, their needs to be less of them.
    The whole thing scaling down less so there are more enemies than player ratio is just ridiculous. This should be a fairly easy fix, they even said they could just flip the spawnsback. Temporarily just revert it now, then tweak it overtime. We all preferred it before their tweak, they can take their time tweaking it more after they revert it if you ask me. Though, I understand in general where they are coming from for wanting to do it right this time, but don't leave it in a state people like less for longer if you can do something in-between in the meantime.
    That's just me though.

  • @IRMentat
    @IRMentat Pƙed 28 dny

    Worth noting. The bots spawn in half the numbers of the bugs while bringing a whole different experience and heap of ranged hardware (and those napalm-bomb-vest jump-pack bots) that happily rag doll spam you outta nowhere.
    If the devs had any sense bot-kill MOs would be maybe 2/3 that if bugs given their lower side airy and way higher annoyance factor (bugs may be tougher but the bits have way more chip-damage available)

  • @derix6755
    @derix6755 Pƙed 28 dny

    💙 I don’t wanna see Helldivers die. They better get those recruitment numbers up!

  • @Magnum420_
    @Magnum420_ Pƙed 28 dny

    💙 appreciate the content you post man

  • @justin9489
    @justin9489 Pƙed 28 dny +1

    I want that break action shotgun as a stratagem weapon!!!

  • @dogishappy0
    @dogishappy0 Pƙed 28 dny

    Did they do something to spawn rates lately? Last night, lvl 4 felt easy again. I bumped it up to lvl 6, and it felt like the lvl 4 from a few days ago.

  • @davidsagitas343
    @davidsagitas343 Pƙed 28 dny +2

    I somewhat like the idea of elemental weaknesses (fire for bugs, shock for bots), we could even have gas be strong against illuminids. (I think gas is underutilized anyway.)
    However I wouldn't like it to ever be too strong of an advantage. I worry players will decide that it's never viable to run anything other than specific, elemental loadouts. I want this game to remain in a state where virtually any loadout is viable in a typical mission.

    • @Jhunta
      @Jhunta Pƙed 28 dny +1

      I love this idea. fire is alrdy stronger against bugs, but electric dmg bonus to bots and even a gas dmg bonus to illuminate? that all fits so perfectly, thematically. and as you said, the game needs to work w this so it's not such a massive dmg bonus that elements become hard metas against said enemies. otherwise, brilliant.

  • @TheDeathAngel8
    @TheDeathAngel8 Pƙed 28 dny +1

    Wasn't the bug MO glitched that counted every kill as 4

  • @HowDidThisHappenNow
    @HowDidThisHappenNow Pƙed 28 dny

    Major Order is 4 fold harder:
    1: Bug that over-reported the amount is not there too boost per mission
    2: Automotons dont come in the same amount per patrol/bot drop as the bugs
    3: Patch that boost patrols makes it harder for a segment of the divers
    4: Player amount that are pusing for the Major Order is not the same

  • @Somebody62780
    @Somebody62780 Pƙed 28 dny

    Always look forward to your videos! But it’s sad to see a drop in player base, major orders certainly are going to be a lot harder to achieve which really sucks, they definitely got to fix this 💙

  • @BD-or5yh
    @BD-or5yh Pƙed 28 dny +9

    💙 I’m still serving Super Earth every day

  • @ravensnflies8167
    @ravensnflies8167 Pƙed 28 dny +1

    theyre not called "buggers" for nothing. we had a shot at the order if they had come to collect scrap instead of fighting bugs all day.

  • @Zahaqiel
    @Zahaqiel Pƙed 28 dny

    Well - on the patrol rates thing - getting Sony/Valve to rectify the issue isn't a coding problem, and it's not something an Arrowhead employee can alter (beyond Pilestadt and other management staff continuing to bug them over it). The past couple of weeks have also had the Polar Patriots warbond release (which they were still doing weapon tests on the week before it released, and with bugfixes and corrections still ongoing), and a heckload of crash-fixes getting bumped to their top of their list. Four pretty hefty patches have dropped in just the past two weeks.
    It's very easy to forget just how many different things they've been working on simultaneously with the Sony thing.

  • @fhiyree3217
    @fhiyree3217 Pƙed 28 dny +1

    I hope they fix the spawn rates 💙💙

  • @nolanpinto4552
    @nolanpinto4552 Pƙed 28 dny +1

    I’m hoping they finally balance properly, I think it could help bring back disenfranchised players 💙

  • @TheGamingRaccoons
    @TheGamingRaccoons Pƙed 28 dny +1

    Also hurting the player count was finals and now people are on vacation

  • @holokom3330
    @holokom3330 Pƙed 28 dny +1

    I am currently not playing since I got a bet with a friend to finish Xcom2 in as few days as possible - I hope when I get back to helldivers in a couple weeks that they sort out some bugs, or add some more meaningful choices to armor. (I am fine with weapon balancing - You can play at least one or two guns of each category, and most stratagems work well up to difficulty 7 too.)
    Mainly I dont want to do another mission on a fire tornado planet with these things chasing me while not having some sort of fireproof armor.

  • @DonCarver.
    @DonCarver. Pƙed 28 dny

    Honestly during this order I have been having great fun completing missions with my friends and we each bring the auto turret and mortar, completing the 40 min long missions and then leaving one heavy bot fabricator running clearing the rest of the map we sit down at evac and run the clock down we make almost 1000 kills doing this on suicide level but also we tried it on level 4 and we made 850 kills doing the same thing. The only difference between the two is that we have more heavies to deal with and they are worth more points. We purposely let bots call in reinforcements before killing them and we usually get away with less than 2 deaths for the whole team.

  • @dantheTexan
    @dantheTexan Pƙed 28 dny

    We are at the point where our primary weapons take a full mag to drop most enemies, we have had a total mag/decrease across the board and even a small outbreak drains all ammo.
    It is like the devs hate us having fun.

  • @dorsai2737
    @dorsai2737 Pƙed 27 dny

    Decommissioned bots could be split up into multiple operations based on number of helldiver's currently playing rather than all in one operation. Have a pleasant day!

  • @Josh-ky8ei
    @Josh-ky8ei Pƙed 28 dny

    I've got an idea. Imagine if HellDivers 2 had a worlds stage for Epsorts n it was just the top 100 teams of 4 not fighting against each other but dropping in together all at once just to fight for democracy in different sectors while we all cheer for them!!

  • @Kid_Charlemagne
    @Kid_Charlemagne Pƙed 28 dny

    Watching them speed run their game is quite funny. I remember getting off work at like 8-9am and get home there would be like 250k-300k people on and now I saw there’s 30k lmao.

  • @MikeTM
    @MikeTM Pƙed 28 dny

    💙 damn. I'm glad they walked back patrols because I was doing a tier 6 and it felt like a tier 8. I'm not surprised people are avoiding the bots with those insane spawn rates. I've been desperately wanting the anti tank mines but looks like I'll have to wait longer sadge

  • @forceablepizza764
    @forceablepizza764 Pƙed 28 dny

    Well, the 2bil bug mission was bugged. It multiplied the teams total kill by the amount of players. So if you had 4 players that all got 200 kills for a total of 800 kills, it then multiplied that by 4 for a total of 3200 kills. Thats why we got through it so fast. They fixed that bug for the bot order. With that in mind, i think we are doing a grand job on the bots. As for the 180 countries thing goes, it was said that they can still play if they already bought the game, they just cant buy new copies of the game at the moment.

  • @RaptorMan07
    @RaptorMan07 Pƙed 27 dny +1

    So sad to see this all happen to helldivers💙

  • @Malikron
    @Malikron Pƙed 28 dny

    Most of my friends left with the Sony issue - but I kept playing a few weeks more until the Eruptor nerf. I still really love the game, but at lvl 103 - everything unlocked and capped resources for when new content is released - I think I'm just going take a break from it until some new content comes out.

  • @AlbandAquino
    @AlbandAquino Pƙed 28 dny

    7:50 I've already noticed a change in the patrol spawn rate. It's already way more manageable when soloing 1-6.
    I don't know how it is higher because I rarely do those unless in full group.

  • @paulvallejo
    @paulvallejo Pƙed 28 dny

    💙 I've been missing all the fun. My gaming laptop is being repaired under warranty and over the last few weeks loads of things have changed đŸ˜©

  • @justinfant5720
    @justinfant5720 Pƙed 27 dny

    💙 Actually seeing and hearing the amount of HellDivers that have left the fight is insane!! 😱

  • @thediamonds4518
    @thediamonds4518 Pƙed 28 dny

    💙💙So exited for the illuminate! I played hd1 and they were fun to play

  • @joeyhossain6796
    @joeyhossain6796 Pƙed 28 dny

    💙 keep the good work up

  • @glitchguerrillas
    @glitchguerrillas Pƙed 28 dny

    Thanks Cloud Plays!

  • @johnmcshane4463
    @johnmcshane4463 Pƙed 28 dny

    In addition to the recent debacles, burnout and the new game season is hitting hard. Plenty of people moving on to other games that just came out or games that dont have these issues.

  • @SN00PY42
    @SN00PY42 Pƙed 28 dny

    So 30k players on a wednesday when summer is just getting started and the weather is nice outside makes sense to me. We can't expect everyone to play the game as long as before. I jump on for 1 Operation a day now. I'm still playing, just not for my previous 4 hours a night. ALSO, folks might be running out of things to unlock now that they've put the time in to play. Many players will probably feel like they've accomplished plenty in the game so I never expected the game to keep over 100k concurrent all the way into next year. Will have to wait and see, but I'm not planning on stopping anytime soon. For me and many others, this campaign is a marathon, not a race.

  • @bobobserver8990
    @bobobserver8990 Pƙed 28 dny

    Could definitely feel those low numbers. Ran with a new friend last night and we had a number of issues, including no backup showing up during long missions. Another was of course having to deal with multiple At Ats throughout the mission. Two were literally dropped at the same time.
    At least if Sony had the linking required for crossplay I could understand registering. Otherwise lock pc players to only play with other pc players. This would allow those in non PSN countries to still play without cutting them off completely. They would just lose crossplay access.

  • @dminefield7391
    @dminefield7391 Pƙed 28 dny

    💙💙 Sad times, sad times. Hope things improve.

  • @krystians2016
    @krystians2016 Pƙed 28 dny +1

    💙waiting for armor rework cuz that would be one of the biggest updates in this game probably for ever and ofc waiting for you videos every single day💙

  • @Nick-ou2uz
    @Nick-ou2uz Pƙed 28 dny

    Hope that we can finish the MO before the timer runs out 💙

  • @papaloy20
    @papaloy20 Pƙed 28 dny

    💙 new major order MIGHT lead to the “fireteam” strategm that we saw glimpses of early on where you call in 4 Npc soldiers that follow you around shooting.

  • @SoulIceMajere
    @SoulIceMajere Pƙed 27 dny

    💙 such a pity the loss of players, but I'm sure it was somekind expected, they'll make adjustments hope they do the right way.

  • @CronDon93
    @CronDon93 Pƙed 28 dny

    Tbh while the player counts definitely have an impact, I think the 2 billion bot major order is being affected a bit more by the fact that there are less enemies permission in automaton missions than there are in bug missions. Not by a margin either, by quite a lot.

  • @RisenDvL2
    @RisenDvL2 Pƙed 28 dny

    WE DIVE TOGETHER OR NOT AT ALL!
    I will shout this from the goddamn rooftops till people understand, I refuse to play until everyone is allowed to again

  • @bigphillydc2936
    @bigphillydc2936 Pƙed 28 dny

    💙💙💙 they really need to fix this game hate to see going down like this hopefully they'll get it together and everyone comes back

  • @KaozKaiser09
    @KaozKaiser09 Pƙed 28 dny

    Honestly I've done enough within the game, defended Lady Liberty on both fronts in randoms but mostly solo (Thanks spawn rate patch I suuuuure love it), the constant terrible "balance" patches and all the debacles of late is killing the mood. I'll probably return in 6 months or if Super Earth is besieged, but for now I'm gonna sing a little song.
    â™Ș To save our mother Earth from any alien attack...â™Ș

  • @danholland3490
    @danholland3490 Pƙed 27 dny

    Here's to hoping that spawns improve 💙💙

  • @darkstar0768
    @darkstar0768 Pƙed 28 dny +1

    💙💙Thanks for the Helldivers New Hit - The dwindling playerbase is concerning. I hope Arrowhead can turn it around sooner rather than later.

    • @CloudPlays
      @CloudPlays  Pƙed 28 dny +1

      It's close to no return so if they don't do it soon we are screwed

    • @Zarcondeegrissom
      @Zarcondeegrissom Pƙed 28 dny

      AH and Sony, and I can only guess Sony is allergic to money given the shenanigans with other games of late (Final Fantasy, Stellar Blade, Ghost of Tsushima, etc).

  • @gordonthompson6749
    @gordonthompson6749 Pƙed 28 dny

    💙 love the content. I hope some day soon the Helldivers 2 community will be whole again. 💙

  • @LordRazer3
    @LordRazer3 Pƙed 28 dny

    I wouldn't say make the patrols correct. We where getting 1/6 of the patrols in solo play when the original goal was 1/4. Apparently they messed up the code because what we getting is full patrols as with we are playing with 4 players. Simply put they needed to nudge the needle but ended up giving it a field goal kick

  • @beaujohnson4421
    @beaujohnson4421 Pƙed 28 dny

    It’s the balancing too on top of everything. I myself don’t even want to play because it doesn’t feel fun having to unload 2 mags into every enemy and spawn rates make me want to bash my head against the desk. To me the game went from drink a few beers and kill everything in site to playing a stealth game 💙💙💙

  • @user-rl1fc2wv3o
    @user-rl1fc2wv3o Pƙed 28 dny

    To address your last point,
    While i'm all for damage modifers favoring one thing or another, shock damage should deffo do more damage to bots than bugs. The difficulty curve isn't as great as your making out, it's a strat change. Bugs get in your face so powerful close quarter weapons are favoured making them easier to kite and control or deney access. Bots are primarily ranged, find good cover and duck and dive your way around them and you won't have problems, if there are fewer of you or you are struggeling, try not alerting every patrol you encounter.
    my friends and I often run helldive diff and t's not uncommon for us to break into pairs to maximise ground covered and limit the risk of engagument, this is both for bugs and bots.

  • @seas1392
    @seas1392 Pƙed 27 dny

    The games need flares, either like avp flares or, and this is the ones I would like, a flare you can fire in the sky, in night missions of course, the lighting and atmosphere it would add to the game would be great, what you think youtube

  • @Blizzy122..
    @Blizzy122.. Pƙed 28 dny

    💙 im currently sitting at level 94 on Helldivers and even i am struggling to find some enjoyment in the game atm and i dont think im alone in this with the amount of nerfs and changes to the game that have removed a lot of fun from the game as well as Sony F***king everything and everyone over. i can see why we have a drastically reduced player count and i think AH needs to really do something to fix it before it gets worse. i will still keep playing the game cause theres still alot that im looking forward to but this feels like a super low moment for Helldivers 2 atm. Hopefully something big happens soon to keep us interested cause if AH doesnt do that then we will just keep losing more players

  • @nickkaemming556
    @nickkaemming556 Pƙed 28 dny

    💙 i hope helldivers 2 can recover from this whole situation

  • @MegaBubo77
    @MegaBubo77 Pƙed 28 dny

    💙sad community that worked up about the whole PSN linking

  • @intothekey
    @intothekey Pƙed 27 dny

    The wombo combo of nerfing everything into the ground and doubling the patrol spawn rates really has hurt the playerbase's fun.

  • @JRoberto2022
    @JRoberto2022 Pƙed 28 dny

    💙💙💙 I think there is also a factor of burnout, yeah the gameplay loop is fun as hell but after constant gameplay over time it tires you out, so some take a couple of days to play other things or just read a book.

  • @Northshoreboy135
    @Northshoreboy135 Pƙed 28 dny

    💙 Sony needs to get the stuff resolved ASAP

  • @-JF-
    @-JF- Pƙed 28 dny

    Helldivers, We Are Not RIP YET! 💙