Ultimate Squadron Vehicle Tier List
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What's the best squadron vehicle in war thunder? In this video we check it out and find which squadron vehicle is worth it when playing war thunder.
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0:00 Intro
0:10 Firecrest
2:29 M901
4:51 Su-22
6:39 Me-262
9:55 Magach 6B
11:41 Sea Harrier
14:23 Ah-64
16:29 T-90
18:49 Object 122 MTMC
21:28 M1A1 Ambrams
24:15 Hunter
26:48 T80 U / T80UK
28:17 Leopard 2PL
29:42 F-5E
32:13 A4E-Early
35:23 BMP-2M - Hry
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entire voice over is re recorded from scratch to fix a audio problem where some people could hear a high pitch squeel. i did try to reach out to youtube support to see if I could use the replace video feature but they said no, so this is a reupload. join the discord: discord.gg/nrbsVmjkDG
thanks for fixing it
I thought I was losing my grip on reality when I saw the video and remembered watching but I was like, I was asleep the last 2 hours I couldn't have seen it until I read your comment
Thx for your effort!
Thought it was a reupload and was wondering why
i was gonna ask
Naval Squadron vehicle players are devastated right now.
Who?
Yes thats true
@@tplays6688 sup buddy
@@tplays6688 good point
My poor Liverpool 😭😭😭
it took me untill 19 min in to notice that it was a re-upload of the vid i already watched.
Yep
Oh so am good I shouldn’t quit weed yet
@@Am-ugly_af1 yep
Yeah I realized about 5 seconds in
Read the pinned comment
This isn't a re-upload, this is a deliberate test to see if we, the mindless mob, would watch the same video again, letting Zoltan double his money.
I, for one, did watch it again, before realizing I had already watched it just a few days ago.
r u ok
read the pinned comment...
@@ZoltanSultan none of us are, we play top tier
@@keoria-T26E1 Best pfp in all of youtube
@@harishadzibulic6603 i have better, just keep forgetting to change it lmao
17:40 That r3 jumping had to be the highlight of the video
Bro was screaming for his life
The fact that the BMP2-M and the 2S38 are both lower at BR than the HSTVL while being better than it at anything is criminal.
the fact that Gaijin still ignores the bug reports regarding penetration and damage on the HSTVL's round... the fact that they STILL don't give it air track/proxy he... yet the (practically) prototype 2S38 gets better stuff than it, at lower br, for money (easier to get than the HSTVL), as a PREMIUM, with lower crew training cost in SL... yeah. People can't say that russian bias does not exist when Gaijin actively goes out of their way to nerf any american tech because it is way better than the pact counterpart
@@buscadiamantes1232 Its literally just russian bias :( Because all the cv90's should also have air tracking as can be seen from publicly available documents about the cv90 sights, but gaijin just doesn't care because their a russian company and want to make russia look good / make money off russian permiums
I found Spookstons alt account guys
@@sampackman69i mean he's not wrong! (I sent a long reply and it got deleted.)
Basically War Thunder's game director said he mains Russia, and only has US/GER/SWE/ISR at ranks 4-6, and that he plays naval arcade only lol
But yeah, that explains why russian APHE rounds still overperform at angles, even years after it was disclosed... or this huge difference between the HSTVL suddenly getting a short rod and pen/damage nerf ahistorically but the not even put in service 2S38 gets all it's quirks on day 1
@@sampackman69 sir you made me laugh out loud
I couldn’t stop laughing when you just drove the bishma straight into the river that was so unexpected 😂😂😂
Fun tip - if you chuck the m901 in CC1, the launcher won't fold up, so your time to fire is much much faster!
One vehicle I wish will still come to WT is the Lockheed AH-56 Cheyenne, as it was part of the massive vehicle leak on the dev servers back in the summer of 2021.
oh yeah i remember that, i mean the model for it has been made so i assume it should come at some point, maybe in like another 3 years tho lmao
It'll be $84.59
Looking at it, it has some similarities to, by which I mean it lead to the development of, Drift's helicopter mode in AOE & TLK.
As an American main, the M901 was game changing when getting those thermal optics. Playing with the TOW while also using the M551's & M60A2's Shillelagh made games that were earning me 30k SL on a bad game and 50k-75K SL on a great game. Include the A-4E's Walleye guided bombs for CAS in a ground RB game and you've got a serious combination that absolutely wipes the floor with other countries at that BR.
Always a good day when zoltan uploads
only real ones know its a reupload....
@@fishbrix3809 only real ones appreciate it anyways
Firecrest slander will not be accepted, the M3s are great at setting fires and the performance is nuts for 2.3. B+/A- tier you just simply need to be skilled
Slender*
@@SodaThunder-bruh wut
Please stay in school@@SodaThunder-
The firecrest is genuinely one of the best aircraft in tank RB. All of the german open topped and panzer tanks with 10mm of roof armor make it very effective at cas with some of the best dogfighting performance for a plane equipped with more than one 12.7mm
If i may add, the F-5E CU should be in a tier above S though the reasoning is a little niche. In Sim battles, this thing is a literal god. Something not mentioned in the video is the RWR it has access too, being a NATO IFF RWR. For those unaware that means it tells you the plane type pinging you, so "F4" or "M2K" or "F14" etc. The advantage this gives you in the air Sim game mode against NATO planes in immeasurable. This alone essentially gives you absolute impunity to fly around the whole map with your radar off and able to sneak up on all enemies, tracking them with an insanely good RWR. With its ability to out perform every plane in its BR for flight performance and even punch up to 11.7 against the M2Ks... its incredible.
Granted the RWR doesn't really serve a huge advantage other then ground RB for detecting incoming enemy planes and AAA, and in Sim. Though personally.... I'd give it S+
The single sim main has arrived.
No seriously, that's awesome to hear and it's on my radar now. I love Sim, but I also love gimmicky/toy jet fighters like the 104, Buccaneer, and MiG-23BN. The lack of functional radar on two, and useless RWR on the MiG makes knowing what's up really hard.
@revolver265 hell yeah. I exclusively play high tier sim now and I can't recommend the F5E-CU enough. Pair the killer RWR with its python 3s and all aspect aim9P4s... it's a literal monster. 20-30 kill games are common after you really get used to it.
SU-22M3's targeting pod is literally the gyro sight same with the su-25s that doesn't have dedicated targeting pods
13:14 that flying tree
And for the 262 A1a/U1, with the all the cannons in the nose, set different key bindings to each of the cannons. That way you have control over which cannon (specifically the 30mm) gets used for what. I always refer to the MK103 as the good 30mm. The MK108 is good for planes, nothing else.
Naval player here.Cas in naval isnt really a problem so maybe the firecrest is fine IF you fricking face an AA ferry,Firecrest is kinda good in bluewater fleet even though i dont even play that plane because low tier bluewater is the one with the least AA so you probably gonna havee a blast
The AH-64 had a introusive thought when locking on when the friendly jett flew by
35:34 APDS-FS is a regular APDS with fins, therefore making it APFSDS, but not in a traditional way, traditional APFSDS is lenghtened, this is why it has relatively poor penetration for a 30mm apfsds. even warriors ***regular*** APDS has more pen.
Amazing Video as always ♥
Yooo, its dark productions!!!
He still forgot the boats
as a uk main i realy enjoy the bhischma wat is important to notice thst the mine blades haba a limetet hitbox witch can get u stuck
21:36 gotta love the 'm1a1 ambrams'
havent seen this vid fully but its a zultansultan video its gonna be a banger
Hey man just wanted to say i just subscribed because i found a lot of this stuff useful and i think im going to start grinding for the bmps
Firecrest was my first squadron vehicle and it certainly helped me a ton with the grind playing GRB.
good vid m8, quality information and good editing. new sub 4 u!
That clip with the British t90 lmaoo
Video so nice he released it twice!
omg thank you for the chapters
4:15 example: M18 Hellcat, which gaijin reclassified it as a light tank for absolutely no reason
I'd put the 262 in C or even B, as long as, like Zoltan says, you use your brain. The lead on MK 103 is so much better (obviously being the long gun), if you fly with your brain engaged, in turnfights you'll overcome the heavier nose of the Sq. 262 and get lots of lovely kills, aiming and firing these new 30mms at where the enemy will be in half a second - instead of shooting at where they'll be next week. Turn on vertical targeting and a high convergence distance and you've just pointed all the guns upwards, helping land the 20mms and short 30s as well. (head-ons are lovely too)
Ground info is accurate. Excellent gun-cas thanks to HVAP in ground, and taking HVAP after an airfield rearm in Air RB means that one shot (two bullets) will flatten AI medium tanks.
Naval is like the weird uncle you have
You know its there but sometimes you forgot about them
Just like Sultan forgot to include the squad ships 😢
Funny, I got my very first squadron vehicle today...the 262
Use it in head-ons. It shreds anything, so you can basically get 2-3 kills at the very start of the game, and then do that again.
Thus, you can grind events pretty fast
36:15 Oh wow, I actually didn't know that, thanks :D
A-4E skyhawk is one of my favorite. cuz it's my first jet
my first Squadron vehicle was the 262 and at first. i hated it it was clunky slow and i was constantly fighting things that i had zero way to counter. but now since its 7.3 it fits SEEMLESSLY into my 7.7 german lineup and ive done much better in ground RB working as a Semi-CAS/Anti-CAS role. and i have to say, its my best jet so far, and i own the F-4S
"And France and Italy are still waiting." Same remark as on the first video.
I used the Sea Harrier for grinding to British top planes. Due to the very good low speed thrust you can climb quite well and drop Aim-9Ls on low flying enemies that don´t see your missiles coming. I often got 2-3 kills right after the start of the match just because I launched missiles at the enemy base bombing train
the Bhishma dozers can stop HEAT rounds
Thx for the video man
And we still have two nations without a squadron vehicle.
I actually feel that the 262 is very strong for air realistic, it gets an air spawn and can just about get on the same level as SU-11s, the cannons are a bit funny because you get 6 of them, they spread out a lot and they deal a lot of damage so all you have to do to get a kill is lead them in the rough direction and just spray, even if only 1 shell hits it will atleast crit the other guy and the flightmodel isnt even that bad as long as you avoid furballs and boom and zoom
I grinded to top tier in the Hunter (and later Mig21 MF). It is THE BEST squadron plane for BR and equipment. Love it.
Me too, with a talisman its really good for grinding until rank 8
17:38 The most brave R3 player I ever seen hehehe just chilling in front of the tank 😂😂
I knew I saw this video somewhere! I was looking for it last 3 days cause I'm about to start my next research and couldn't find it, thought I was delusional
me262 a-1a/u1 is great for air RB in my opinion. when spaded you can do some decent maneuvers and avoid gunfire, but most importantly the guns here SHREAD anything it comes in contact with. a single well placed 30mm shot can oneshot a aircraft, and you got almost 300 shots of them. you can esally stack up kills with this aircraft
personal best 4 planes 5 tanks and 5 assists after I fully researched all of the equipment. I love the plane but only if you manage to carry the speed above 500kmh you can do decent things but if you drop under that you are done. Hit and run tactics work like a charm.
object122mt is soo much fun its my top vehicle now i think ( mainly because i used it to grind a crafting event ) the vehicle itself is amazing and the atgms are a cherry on top
I unlock the Leo2pl, me 262, bmp-2m, object 122 and t-80u. I enjoy all of them🎉❤
minor error, the Swiss Hunter 58 has AIM-9Ps, not AIM-9Js.
Its such a minor difference that it doesnt matter, but the Ps can be slaved to the radar so that can be useful
Just to Think about that the BMP2 can Launch atgms while driving is insane, as example, when they took that ability away from the Type 87 broke the Back of this vehicle
The BMP-2M was originally 8.7. brutal.
The Su-22 doesn’t have a targeting pod lol. Irl the pilot is just looking through their HUD and the pod only shoots the laser.
thx man ❤
I love how the bmp-2m before was in 8.7
Damn Sultan. You realized we loved this one didn't you?
I flown with Harriers only in Sim Battles, there i feel the engine very efficient. You can go at 60 or 70% without loosing much speed.
A tip for the M901 is if your driving under 20km the turret will not stow itself
14:22 harriers my goat
I like the firecrest tbh, it’s great for strafing spaa due to the fire rate
More ranked lists please!! Potential to split up lists by tier and air/ground/naval premiums?
Important note about the M901, since it is a M113 chassis and Gaijin hates it, it will struggle to go up most inclines your normal tanks might, keep that in mind too. (Also it should be W-E tier)
the a1/u1 is great in air rb, even if it is over br'd, the guns are great, and the airspawn lets you get alt on everyone else and dominate with basic energy fighting
Genuine hot take maybe, but i quite enjoy the firecrest. Back in the day, it was criminally over brd, at i think 3.3. Even then it had a pretty strong engine, but now at the lower br, the engine is very good, M3 .50s are very good with the higher fire rate and better damage, and it still turns fairly decently
Bro absolutely shafted the Firecrest. That beast is absolutely insane at 2.3 man. Just have some trigger discipline and you can get easy 3 kill games
I've found the grenade launcher on the BMP-2M is great for clearing obstacles in your path, whether it be trees, fences/walls or a whole fuggin house lol
In naval arcade u can see what lineups a player used
The squadron SKR 7 is often the only top tier vehicle a player have
Imagine the majority of ground RB 10.0 matches with 3 Soviet players who spawn in the BMP2m, a bt5, and a kv1 (or only a BMP2m)
That's basically the situation with the SKR7 bc ppl buy it so often
My friend who’s a Warthunder wiki moderator said the Firecrest actually has the wrong engine but I haven’t had the time to check that fact out yet…
The 262 is a fantastic anti tank with the mk 103 ap rounds even after they were nerfed. The 20mm and the mk 108 30mm are also very punchy HE slinging threats to aircraft and opentops
If more tank destroyers got scouting, imagine, someday they fix Khrizantema S’s ground radar and its BMP3 hull hydraulic suspension, then add the scouting to it. Even its got from 9.7 to 11.0, even 11.7 after those buff, it still can do wonders
About the Russian apds-fs name, I think it’s actually how they call their shells. They basically call it APDS that is fin stabilised, when westerners typically say apfsds.
9:30 A rahdo is definitely a unique way to say it
As an A10 player, I take offense to saying the Harrier is gonna make people upset with its speed. It's faster than I am. XD lmao, much love, great video.
I just don't have the Magach, Abrams, Hunter and the F-5, good video BTW.
I dunno I quite enjoy the Firecrest in Air RB, I can sometimes get away with 3-4 kills before having to reload
35:36 it says this way because it is just an apds with some fins slapped onto it
The Bhishmas front attachment actually gets removed when you install the self-entrenching equipment
"The F-5 lacks a little speed"
Me in a full downtier chasing a 9.7 jet for five minutes:
Feel like I’m living in a time loop now
The Hunter is great and I used it to grind out rank 5, 6 and partially seven
I haven’t had any issues one-tapping the bmp-2m so far with the m1a1 aim
Su22M3 is getting R-60M's next patch/BR update so thats just better
Ah, I love thinking back to when everyone was complaining about how the BMP-2M was too low BR, so naturally Gaijin just gave it APFSDS as well
the agm-65d has an abysmal time locking and actually killing enemies so much so that i'd almost rather have manually guided bullpups
Great vid! (Again 😅)
You can fix those glitched names by going in settings and unchecking the box which says enable custom localization
You forgot, for me a big advantage on the BMP-2M. Because it can lock onto enemy aircrafts and kill them with its main or just shoot one of its 8 ATGMs (4×2) which surprisingly hit quite well even onto moving planes if they don't manoeuvre that much. I know you just forgot to mention it but that's why I made this comment, to let others know it can lock onto enemy aircrafts.
I am kidnapped and the kidnapper said I am free to go if I tell him the best squadron vehicles in War Thunder, this video saved my life.
Great video, very informative, 👍👌🤘✌🖖🤙👏🍻
13:41 this jet is perfect for vtol/harrier lovers that don’t play the uk or Italy. Still can’t wait for an American AV-8B plus.
Gaijin resisting the urge to add another soviet or American Squadron vehicle: Impossible.
Wait is this a repost? I swear I've already seen this excellent video before
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@@benjaminrawlinson9318 Which they posted after mine :)
Personally i use me-262 in my 9.3 grb lineup and it shreds t-55,bmps sometimes even t-72 etc
3:30 lmao i always drift with the rear towards the enemy so i dont have to wait for the launcher to rotate xddd
Man I just unlock Leopard 2 PL before this video came out, I dont have any SL
I suffered enough with a stock A-4E in Air RB and I don't have a lineup for it in Ground RB... I'm grinding the BMP-2M
17:41 bro caught him like a ball
The new weather effects really nerfed the KA-50
36:36 It is a feature the tank has in real life, that is why it has the grenade launcher.
Came for a tier list, stayed for ausie Abrams, left with a question where are the squadron ships