Glock 20 vs the EAA Tanfoglio Witness 10mm
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Glock 20 vs the EAA Tanfoglio Witness 10mm
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Of cours the glock has less muzzle rise, It has a compensator!
this was kinda of dumb comparison, i wont be surprised if that glock has more money on mods that the gun its self cost
Imagine tang with threaded barrel and comp and rmr lol
Hey Highjak 86
Try comparing apples to apples instead of a gussied up Gucci Guh LaWk to that real Tanfoglio gun!!
Not wrong but consider that threaded barrels + compensators are more available for glock. Maybe you could find something for the tanfoglio. Putting that upgrade money into the tanfoglio sounds pretty cool tbh. But not as easy for sure.
I'd take a steel frame gun in10mm anytime.
Moral of the story is that 10mm rocks!
When they find my sun bleached bones in the Thunderdome, I am going to have my Glock 20 with the slide locked back in one hand and my OKC SP-50 Spearpoint Bowie in the other.
You know you're comparing apples to oranges! The EAA will always should smoother when compared factory to factory!!!
Love my Stock I in 10mm. The G20 stays as a bedside gun and the Tanfoglio is for pure fun.
Why 50 yrs when your missing 90%. Bring it closer to more realistic scenarios.
Less muzzle rise because you have a compensater lol like wtf?
How to look badass while handling guns 101
1. Lightly open the slide and check to see if the bullet you have already racked is there
2. Tap the back of the slide to make sure that slide is home!
😉
All jokes aside, it was an informative video, thanks for the info!
excellent straight forward presentation - thank you
I have my glock 20 set similar to yours minus the light & rmr but the rmr is next. I couldn’t be happier with my setup. Keep up your videos on your glock 20 2 thumbs up!!
Jimmy Sherrell Thanks!!
Maybe you should get a little closer to the target
"Up close" pistol at 50 yd! Good for you lol up close for me is like 3feet
He couldn't hit shit at 50 yds. My Witness will make 4 leaf clovers at 25 yds. This Joker really needs to work on his skills. Fairly pathetic display.
@@badgerstate3451 Nobody who knows a thing about using handguns is using conventional pistols at 50 yards. 50-75 feet is about the maximum distance you'd ever realistically use a handgun.
Nice video. Good comparison.
Tanfoglio resembles the Bren Ten a little bit. I want one.
I have one. It rocks
@@suprlite I'm so happy you responded. I couldn't find this vid for this life of me. Lol
@@skinny4 funny
I had a Glock 20 10mm pistol and a Springfield XD-M 10mm pistol. Both polymer frame pistols and well made. However, polymer frame pistols are not made for shooting big caliber rounds like .40, .45, and 10mm comfortably and accurately. Unless you're strong with big mitts (hands), they're wearing on your hands, and it's hard to be accurate. Poly frame pistols are best for 9mm. Shoot 10mm in full-size, steel frame pistols, and you'll like the difference. Comfortable and accurate. I sold my poly frame 10mm pistols and bought Sig Sauer, Tanfoglio, and Rock Island steel frame 10mm pistols, and love them.
I think your right my k245 shoots so smooth cause its all steal cz style.
Welp i got big paws the eaa witness 10mm shoots good in my mitts..i like tne lower bore axis plus muscle memory is key
Can I suggest a ‘dead cat’ on the mic’ for video sound in windy weather?!
Weight doesn’t matter at this point since you added the compensator to the model 20 honestly. The compensators on pistols don’t do much for felt recoil but as evidenced by the video, it makes a marked difference in the amount of muzzle flip between the two.
That has been my experience as well. Notable difference in muzzle rise, but not a huge difference in felt recoil.
clifton559 I shoot steel guns also Clifton, with both comps and plain barrel, the rear of the grip isn’t actually moving down, it’s rotating out of his hand, that’s what muzzle flip does, regardless of the weight or material it’s made of. Only way to reduce muzzle flip is to lower bore axis, add a comp, cut down on slide mass (reciprocating mass) or better yet, do all three :)
Visibly he is having less felt recoil from the Witness, but his muzzle is barely moving with the Glock, which WILL allow much faster follow up shots.
Great video and comparison. I learned a lot.
I've got a 10" gong(round ar500)set up at 50 yards from my front porch. I had a hard time hitting it at first, but I'm getting much much better(75%). 50 yards is a stretch, with a handgun(if you've never tried it), but it can be done consistently, with practice. I can wear it out at 30 yards, tho. lol
I can hit that gong 95% of the time, now! A month of practice, with the same firearm, makes a difference. LOL
Thanks for that review. I always wondered how the two compared side by side. I will give the Witness this over the Glock.. the Witness is closer in appearance to the original Bren Ten.
The Tanfoglio with a steel frame is a much better pistol for shooting 10mm.
What camera is that you used? The one on your hat! I want one.
For a fair comparison either both should have compensators or neither
Thanks for the video. I love both my G20 and my 10mm hunter. KKM is the way to go.
Hope doo the prices compare?
What modifications did you do to the Glock
your hand has been eating too much ice cream i think thats why your having the slide problem heehee
Those are a pair of absurdly nice pistols
On your G20 are your irnin sights cowitness
The real question is which would you actually carry? My answer is the EAA. The Glock 20 beast is made for taking down high value targets in a Rainbow Six game and the EAA is meant to be covered with a nice jacket as you walk with your lady down Main Street in the Fall.
Would love to do that, but Witness in steel is very heavy, especially to carry on the waist. Have you carried it daily? They make a polymer frame match Witness that weighs same as G20, if you want that trigger.
I was just ogling the EAA Witness Stock I and Stock II in 10mm. Mega sexy. Gonna start saving muh pennies.
It's a fun gun!
best purchase I ever made
Feel like you should have moved up for this video 😝
I bought that EAA in 9mm and loved it so much that I picked up a Stock in 45, and a Limited in 9mm.
The build quality, fit and finish is so nice on these guns. Spendy sure, but they're top notch. Amazing triggers too!
And I've yet to clean my Match maybe 600 rounds, I've only had i slightly delay to feed. But it did go on its own. Just seemed to hang up for a split second.
How dose the break efect the function of the gun?
Fast forward now 4 years later. Are you sticking with the Tanfo?? I'm torn between the Glock, Tanfo, or the SIG p220. I want them all but only have one permit left so it's decision time. Please help lol
How do you make them shells look so big when they're ejected and fly through the air... - Aah! It's 10 mill.
I have a Wolf ported barrel on my G29. The downward force from the comp causes pain in my middle finger knuckle that's under the trigger guard. When I swap back to the stock barrel it's fine. Do you feel any pain in your knuckle?
He has the under side of the trigger guard beveled. All Glock 10 mm will tear your knuckle up if you don't do the mod or have it done
Not positive, but pretty sure I saw someone else's duel with those pistols and the stock Glock still had slightly less muzzle rise. The more research I do, the more it seems that Glocks are pretty damn good. You sure have a nice one! The Alaskan Ballistics guy often carries the Glock 40. That's one I'm considering. The other option is the Tanfoglio (EAA) Hunter. All steel.
Vision protection not a priority?
Do you know what the first "slide inside the frame" handgun was?
EAA/Tanfoglio/Defiant/IFG/Witness (all same company somehow, don't ask)
I love the EEA witness 10mm. I think that it's better than the glock.
Tanfoglio is much better, and more comfortable and accurate. Steel frame 10mm pistols like Sig Sauer, Tanfoglio, and Rock Island make the difference.
@@webviking and I couldn't say that no better lol
Did you have any malfunctions? I had a Glock 10mm and couldn't get it to run unless I was death gripping it.
klist mv1 Nope. I’ll do a vid on this soon.
If the Witness still runs factory recoil spring you may want to upgrade the spring to 20lb. Otherwise the Witness slide will beat itself hard and might eventually develop a crack.
Highly doubt that. Tanfoglio steel frame/steel slide pistols thar are of the Stock l, stock ll, and stock lll frames are extremely durable. Over all they are one of the best, most accurate high end pistols available. That budget made, poorly engineered polymer glock frame or slide would fail long before that Tanfoglio would.
@user-un5my5bw4j the early slide is known to develop crack. This happened to a Tanfo 10mm that belonged to a friend of mine. EAA replaced the slide with the same model. He stopped shooting it after they replaced the slide. I have the gun now.
How has the reliability been long term with the G20? Would you change something if you had to redo it?
Yeah.....I'd make it out of all forged ordnance grade steel like 4140 or 4340 for example.
I consider that a Browning high power grip angle. It's my favorite.
As God intended.👍
Great video, greetings from México
Greetings!
Looking for some “wisdom”. I have the full size version of the EAA 10 MM. Having trouble with the “Underwood Extreme” series of ammo. Getting light primer strikes and “on occasion” the pistol won’t seat into battery when cycling. Using EAA mags. It runs regular 10/MM FMJs with no issues.
HELP 😥😥😥
New hammer spring and stronger recoil spring (#22 or #25 should do the trick).
What comp was that again?
KKM 4-port
Glocks look like Edsels built by Toyota. UGLY but pretty reliable. Witness all the way.
I love the look and feel of my G20. The large backstrap and beavertail make it the best-feeling gun in hand that I own. And that affects how I see it, too. It has beauty in its utter simplicity.
It's 2019, I want ZERO muzzle rise. Make it happen engineers!
Haha! Yes!
Newton said no!
Fraid the closest you'll get is a Chiappa Rhino.
Only in a gun where you can hold or shoulder it directly behind the muzzle, like AR-15. For pistol, maybe if you down-load so the bullet just falls out the muzzle.
Why you justa have 1k visits?
Thats weird my Tanfoglio witness in 10mm is a double action , but mine isnt the match model.
Mine is the witness match 10mm. I've always called it SA/DA. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about but I always thought single action meant you had to cock it EVERY shot, where as a SA/DA just needs to be cocked for the first round and the slide cocks the following shots. I could just be miss labeling
@@jonathanmathews7673 SA/DA means it can fire from the hammer down position as well as from the cocked position. SA only means it can only fire from the cocked position.
Good comparison video even if they are different guns. Don't pay those haters no never mind. Threaded Witness barrels cost as much as the pistol hah!! I have a couple of the Witness' and would like to add the difference in the slide configurations. Witness uses a lower bore axis and where the slide cuts are, do not give as much hand purchase area, (less metal to grab) which can make it difficult to rack or chamber check. and pretty difficult when I'm hunting in the cold with gloves on. Mine is double-action and the basic trigger and is great. I'm very happy with that pistol
I would have to go with the Tanfoglio. Just because it's a copy of a CZ. Better trigger and accuracy than the glock. Just my opinion. Not downing the glock, they make very dependable handguns.
How is it more accurate than a Glock?
"How is it more accurate than a glock?" -it just is. It's all steel and a way better trigger.
@@suprlite Being all steel doesn't make it more accurate lmao wtf are you talking about and a glock's trigger can be swapped and upgraded.
Always gonna prefer da/sa over striker fired but a Glock is so easily customized and there's so many aftermarket parts it's kinda hard to choose.
@@WatchesYouAtNight Ok glock fanboy :p lmao + smh. You can swap the trigger all you want on your glock, but it will never be as good as on a SA tanfoglio. That`s just fact. And as for accuracy: how many competition-guns out there are polymer vs steel? -did you ever wonder why?
@@suprlite Dude if you're gonna be silly go somewhere else. I just said i preferred DA/SA over strikerfire.
What're you talking about lol theres plenty of polymer guns used in comp. Some people prefer steel for recoil management, its not about accuracy. I'm guessing youre still young or youre a boomer thats too dumb to study this shit.
Im surprised the Witness would have higher muzzle rise as your hand is closer to the barrel's centerline axis due to its slide design. I guess Ill have to buy both. Lol
This is like comparing a 1971 Ram Air 400cui HO firebird to a 1994 ford festiva. Tanfoglio is in a category no glock could ever possibly be in. Go to a pistol shooting match sometime and count how many shooters are using Tanfoglio handguns. You wont have to count how many are using glock because no one is.
The G20 really does require significant customization to be as good as a lot of competitors.
I had Robar do a full workup on mine before they closed.
What spring and barrel did you change to? There are some great 4"- 6" G20 barrels out there.
Have you shot the XDM full size yet?
If your customized G20 causes you to ride the release with your grip, that effects reliability.
If poor spring weighting causes problems, "limp-wristing" causes problems, it's still a gun issue.
I purchased a 10mm witness in 2019, the strange double recoil spring did not hold up. Tried to purchase a replacement spring and was told that they did not have replacement springs . The weapon is now an expensive paper weight. Do yourself a favor buy from a reputable weapons manufacturer.
I may be mistaken about the exact model you have but I thought EAA witness was a DA?
The "Match" is a great SA.
Why start at 50yards? Closer then move back
I thought the EAA Witness was DA/SA? Being able to carry it in both condition 1 or 2, depending on your preference.
beausandland It’s single action only.
Highjak86 thanks for the reply. I have seen other Tangoflio in DA/SA where you can carry in both condition 1 and 2. Must just depend on what particular model you get.
beausandland
The Witness line is substantial, I believe the basic Witness line is DA/SA and maybe even the Witness Elite line, but once you get to the Elite Match line and above they are SA only for that light, consistent trigger pull expected for competition.
There is a polymer line too which EAA may call Pavonia or something but I don't think they make any 10mm in that line.
There are right now 19 different models within the witness line. Some are SA only, some DA only, Some DA/SA, polymer frames, compacts & up to 6" barrel.
The "Match" he has, does have an amazing single action. I do have two Witness' that are DA and the triggers are great
Got dam, thats one nice glock!!
I'm in love with it.
Bad habit to check for chambered round and also tapping the back of the slid to make sure it goes into battery every time when putting a loaded mag in.
I know that this is an old video, but I own a Glock 20 and Tanfo Defiant Limited Master 10mm. I'm not sure how it's possible that you shoot the G20 better. The Tanfo is single action too, with a 3 lb. trigger. Also, the Glock reliability mantra is a myth. Glock is no more reliable than a Beretta, Sig, CZ, or Tanfo. Do some research for yourself. Glocks are cheap and light weight. In order to take advantage of the better and nicer pistols, like a Tanfo, one has to be a better shooter. Shoot them from a bench at 25 yards to see the inherent differences. Why own a Kaw Ninja H2 if you don't have the skills to ride it properly?
I don't mean to be offensive but I find it interesting that Glock owners are like a Harley Owners they will defend their purchase regardless of the obvious facts.
To spend that much money on a gun and have it bite you back is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. What would happen if you wore gloves it would surely malfunction on occasion.
There are a lot of reliable guns out there that will eat anything you put in them and they generally are not the most accurate when they will eat anything put in them.
I've got a old Ruger P89 that will eat anything I put in it but it's not extremely accurate but it's a hell of a good gun and a hell of a lot cheaper than a Glock.
Right on.
I've fired the witness the polymer version and it's a fuckin roscoe, all kinds of muzzle flip you have to push down a whole lot if you rapid fire it. The gun is so loud with the 10mm cartridge even if you didn't hit the broadside of a barn mofos are gonna run for cover fo sho.
Why do guys rack the slide chambering a round and immediately do a press check?? Is there a reason for this or is this just tactical dude shit??
You forgot your protection.
Highjak86, love your vidz .Please wear eye protection. Anything can happen, thanks!!
I LOVE seeing a review where the shooter honestly tells us that the gun failed to fire, I have NEVER seen that on hickocks channel or the little that I've seen of sootchoo.
This should be a GOOD ONE.
For comparison thought you would shoot a lot closer but honest vid.
@@NoWr2Run Range is really irrelevant. I don't do accuracy videos on pistols if that's what you mean. Accuracy in a modern pistol is 99% all up to the shooter as opposed to the gun. Thanks for watching!
Range actually isn't irrelevant but yes that is what I meant. Something like 25 yards at steel ? I can see it was pretty freakin cold out & I could hear the wind. Me I'm fixing my Jeep outside running in & out of the house to feel my fingers again, very windy & cold here too, NO GARAGE YET ? You did an honest vid. like I said & I appreciate it, tell your DAD, NICE CAMERA WORK.
@@NoWr2Run Cool - that's what I thought you meant. This target was at 50 yards. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Great video man just a bit of constructive criticism, great info just bit less explaining and more shooting not trying to be a duck I love your content man
Wish you had weighed the EAA. Also, no eye protection is crazy....several G20's have blown up. Crazy to drop that basic safety protocall.
Blown up?? Where did you find that info?
CZ and Tangfolio are Browning HP clone if I remember correctly
You must have Wookie hands. =P
*wookie howl
Tangfolio sounds like a dirty word.
Haha. You're not wrong.
It's actually Tanfoglio.
s c
Even dirtier, LOL!!!
cornholio
ONLY complaint; "single action"....
The Witness is umdersprung from the factory.
Glad someone else noticed this, my 40 is awesome but my 10mm feels under sprung, would like to buy a spring for it but then it would be to much and the magazine to slow I feel like
Obsessed with competition lightweight fast loads, I guess. But for carry and hot loads, it will need spring upgrades.
@@ranchertrapperdieselbuilds3632 Buy a 22-24 lb recoil spring and it will feel like your shooting a weak 9mm.
Got nothing against the Glock but, I want the EAA simply because I grew up with Miami Vice and it's the closest thing I can get to Crockett's Bren Ten
As far as I know your absolutely right my friend. A fine looking, and handling pistol to my understanding. I do continually read that it needs minor tweaking to be able to run continuously with hot ammo ? But otherwise, it's good to go ! Well you've confirmed it......going home to watch some MIAMI VICE reruns. I need to see Sonny Crockett's exemplary gun handling skills again ! 😉 Be well, JB
@@Bushmaster10MM sorry but it is just as good as the Glock out of the box...Glock is not everything everyone makes it out to me I own three of them,2 Sig's, 1 Walther, 2 taurus, now recently bought the witness, they all are comparable to Glocks.. any modern firearm basically is unless you're shooting a revolver or hi point. This comparison was not fair at all . He had a compensator on aftermarket trigger. And clearly stated he had never cleaned the witness before shooting..
Glock is just a name because they were the first polymer frame handgun..but most other brands are equally as a reliable..there are no better than any other gun unless you like their grip angle..I personally would take my sig over a Glock any day.
And when you're shooting hotter loadsdepending on if they are handloads are factory loads I have not had any problems with factory
@@jthrasher47 oh make no mistake about it, i am absolutely not a "GLOCKOPHILE" but do appreciate them. I am very glad to hear of your positive feedback in reference to the Witness line of handguns. I am definitely a fan of the product. And yes, i am a fan for some of the same reasons that you mentioned. 😉 Be well, and enjoy my friend. JB
I think the glock may have a couple advantages....
You couldnt strip it down for a test?
Yeah...somebody spent over $1,000.00 seriously modifying the Glock and yet it did no better than the EAA and wasn't as "nice" to handle.
tanfoglio forever
Glock is for duty anywhere and any time. EAA is for ballroom dancing and tuxedo nights
Naah, the tanfoglio is rock solid and never fails. It's pretty much a refined Cz75.
@@suprlite Wish the Jericho 941 came in 10mm. That thing is built like a tank. Add a 22-24 lb recoil spring and it would be an awesome 10mm. The advantages of building guns out of 4340 ordnance steel.
@@rs1023 tanfoglio is rock solid and precise. As mentioned, its based on the CZ75, so it will not fail you. But it really surprises me that not more guns are offered in 10mm.
@meangreen320: clearly you're not very familiar with tanfoglio/eaa/cz75. They are every bit as solid and reliable as i 1911 and outperform a glock in every aspect. Only a hardcore glock fanbooi would give such a biased uninformed statement.
You piled a lot of money onto those guns now learn to use and shoot them. The steel rang very few times as you shot. Maybe 20 yards would be better.
Or 15 or 10 yards. Most people can't hit anything, especially with handguns at more than 20 yards. Solutions - more practice or buy pistol-rifles or rifles.
Blah blah Everybody knows Newton’s third law but do you know his fourth law of motion? “Ass, grass or cash; nobody rides for free.” Which one does faster double taps more a accurately?
TheBigUgly Uncouthe 🤣
it's a cz clone, not a 1911 clone.
No eye protection? You can order the factory 6in barrel for your Glock 20 for only $160, and turn it into a Glock 40. Amazing accuracy and less recoil with a factory Glock.
Decent channel but comparing these two pistols is kind of unfair, one is customized to the balls, the other stock. Ill bet a million bucks EAA outshines in every category if they are stock during the test.
Decent comment, but you're missing the point of the video.
Why can’t the the smartest factories at Glock engineer department figure out that 18 degrees is the perfect angle????????????
Why can’t they also figure out that the slide rides inside the frame and has a tremendous affect on the function of the firearm???
Why can’t those smart people at Glock know this????
I’m not smart and I figured it out.!!!
Mr. Browning figured it out and he didn’t have a COMPUTER!!!!!!?
I’m not sorry about your hand getting injured........ you spent a lot of money on that thing and it bites you still.!
Well go get a band aid !!!
I hope you can accept some constructive criticism. Judging from your hit ratio and recoil management, the 10mm is just not for you. Downgrade to a .40 or just shoot 9.
I personally can't shoot/afford enough 10mm to justify owning one.
FYI the PPU ammo is true 10mm.
LAX/Freedom Munitions is .40 loading in a 10mm package.
180gr 10mm range fmj should be moving at 1250fps compared to 1000fps from a .40.
Whatever brooo
Both look like range queens. That said, I'd take the EAA.
stimproid The G20 is mine, brand new essentially, and has more rounds through it than the EAA, which isn’t mine. The G20 is a hunting/predator defense gun... def not a queen.
Are you dead
Glock 40
I really don't understand why he took the time to compare shooting these two guns without taking the compensator and the flashlight off the glock.
I would guess cuz he owns them and that's the configurations that he runs them in.
You are very biased toward your plastic modified pistol. Tanfoglio are excellent firearms. Glocks suck.
Right on.
Your opening needs to change. You blew my fucking ears out.
450/400 Man Your volume needs to change. The intro audio is normalized to match the rest of the video.
go cz, cz clone or go home.
not a very good shot are you? you hit the target 30% of the time maybe you should hold the gun correct
As I usually note, I'm not the best pistol shooter, but with that said... this target... as mentioned in the video... is a 10-12" plate at 50 yards. Grip is fine. If you'd like to upload a video of yourself shooting the same size target, at the same range, in 15F weather I'd love to watch it. Send me the link...
This dude is a credible threat at 50 yards and those 10’s are smacking hard.
But muh keyboard credibility without any supporting evidence...
Michael Herron
How often do YOU shoot pistols at 50 yards? School us with you mad skills by making an instructional long range pistol shooting video.
You have obviously never fired a handgun from 50 yards! I started shooting pistols at age 12 and would say that all things considered that was respectable shooting at that distance.
No eye protection.
That s not a fair test. I don't like polymer pistol s or rifle s.