Unc & Ocho react to toxic relationship between ex-Bears QBs Justin Fields & Nick Foles | Nightcap
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to reports of former Chicago Bears QBs Justin Fields and Nick Foles having a toxic relationship. Unc & Ocho also react to reports that the New York Jets are concerned about OC Nathaniel Hackett's ability to elevate the offense.
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Chad nailed it. NFL is a workspace. I don't like everyone I work with, supervise or work for.
lol its not just Black QB's. When Wentz left the Eagles they started releasing stories about him being a bad teammate. When Baker left the Browns they started calling him a child. Its every player that leaves an org on bad terms, and it happens regardless of race.
Tbh I believe the Baker one, but Wentz eventually came out and said him and Foles are cool with each other.
I also feel it can be the other way around and the org can just be as petty , pointing the finger first having everyone think: well it must be the individual! Not the whole camp! But hey I’ve seen or heard crazier things
Chad said that when he brought up Rodgers and farve
Shannon always brings it back to race
Im black & I co-sign this message
Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers never got along. Steve Young and Joe Montana didn’t get along. It happens people.
Fields is neither
@@user-nw8wo7gs2h Exactly 😂😂 those guys are Hall of Famers.
@@anthonytobias5459 so only HOF type of players have the grace of not getting along with others? Everybody else is not aloud to have disagreements? Serious question big dawg!
@@glizzorobinson1227 Fields is a bust. Steve Young and Joe Montana never really had a problem with each other. Steve Young and Aaron Rodgers are the hall of fame. I do not understand this obsession with Fields he has done nothing.
Let's not compare the Bears situation with either of these other ones please
Whatever Unc taught Todd Heap clearly paid off. Heap made back to back pro bowls after Unc left BAL. Had a real solid career at TE
He Would’ve been better if Baltimore could draft better Qbs back then.
@@Hawkeyes319the legend of Kyle Boller
Ocho dressed like he about to go gamble at the casino
I just left Las Vegas, I don’t remember seen anyone gambling dressed like that.
@@pwpstrick😂🤣 fr bro what is this man talking about
Na bro bout to go to the Kentucky derby 😂😂
@@562LA2THEBAY clearly yall don’t go to high rollers tables in the back
@@armandoquintana2185 nah bro that’s more like a private area of gambling type of fit. I see old Asian men in the high rollers wearing flip flops.
I don’t believe this report at all. From every player that’s spoke out Fields was a great teammate.
Doesnt mean Justin never wanted to listen and take advice from someone who is trying to help him . Bears players already have moved on from him the day they met Caleb
I agree. Who is his source. Man can't tell me reporters don't make stuff up to make a name for themselves. And they don't have to prove what they wrote is true
maybe while he was on the team. Teammates can't talk bad about their starting QB.
@@knockgaming7637 no one has ever said that. The reporter is making things up to further his career. I mean he is the only one with this story? Never once heard this about fields ever. And not from anyone else who writes about the bears covers the bears.
What did you expect them to say, "Yeah the dude sucks and glad hes gone"? players rarely talk bad on teammates
Yall think qbs gon have good relationships when they’re deadass fighting for the same spot lol
Weird that for 4 years we never heard a damn thing against JFs character. The Chicago Media eats stuff like this and yet this is the first we hear it? I recall that JFs rookie year they didn’t give him reps til the week he was starting and had a coach who didn’t want him. Not getting along with a vet and Toxic are not the same. He wasn’t good enough, leave it at that. Do go attacking his character now.
Its the narrative they give athletes regardless of race.
It's actually not weird... WHY say anything negative about a guy while HE'S STILL THEIR?
Plus nobody should be that friendly to a mofo trying to replace you!!
Poles has been here going on three years. And, he isn't winning games. To take the NORTH you have to win GAMES.
The team never called him Toxic. Nick Foles said he had a toxic relationship with him…. 4 years later and he hasn’t been here in years. Why say this now? If that’s not weird to you, then I got nothing for you. Coworkers don’t always get along. Calling him toxic is a shot. I don’t think it’s racial driven. But I think is makes zero sense to say a damn thing about it. Leave that man alone. He didn’t bring you up, why bring him up?
Ocho look like he jumped off the yacht 😁
Good thing too. The Orcas sunk the yacht after he left. 😂
Wait till that shady wife he think he got leaves with that suit and the rest of all his money ‼️
Bears fan here an Teammates haven’t spoken bad about JF1 we don’t care about these late reports he already been traded but he was 85 percent of our offense they need to stop it
He needed to listen to foles. Foles could’ve taught him how to throw from the pocket which is the weakest part of fields’ game.
@@rorybannoncan’t throw from the pocket when you have both a bad offensive line and receivers who can’t get open
If the bears defense didn’t lose 3 games the team would have made the playoffs and fields would still be a bear. The bears kept bob avellini 10 seasons look at his stats 33 touchdowns and 69 interceptions and the bears had no problem keeping him
@@KimberlyMitchell-jf7nv the bears teams of the past aren’t relevant to this team. Poles and flus have been establishing a new culture which is what this team needs to return to playoff contention. Poles and flus didn’t draft fields, so they wanted to get their own guy. It’s something that most GMs wanna do to establish their culture. But you can’t deny that fields could’ve learned from foles given foles was a Super Bowl champion and very experienced. When you watch the tape you see that fields and Russ both hold the ball for too long and struggle to throw from the pocket and make quick reads over the middle. The bears o line was not as bad as people like to say it was last season, and once Caleb comes in and throws dots over the middle from the pocket, we will all see that. Tevin Jenkins has developed into a great young guard and Darnell Wright who poles drafted last year was also great. The other issue with keeping fields from a team building perspective is that fields would need a new contract next year or the year after. So if fields is good and we wanna extend him next year or the year after we need to pay him like $100 million or whatever. With Caleb we have a rookie that poles can build a team around for the next 4-5 seasons while Caleb is on his rookie scale deal.
@@rorybannonwe have no clue what Nagy told Fields and we knew Floes and Nagy wasn't on the same term. Fields was given nothing his first 2 years and then his 3rd year he get D.J. and has the highest ratings from qb to wr. Caleb will have to run for his life cause its the same line and he doesn't have the speed to get away. Bears made a huge mistake trading Fields before fixing the line.
The Bears had nothing but good things to say about Justin as long as he was running for his life behind a terrible o line, but when they get the right pieces in place for Caleb, all of a sudden he was the problem.
So there was no issue with Fields himself in the bears?
We are just gonna blame the offensive struggles on everyone else than other than the quarterback?
FACTS!
Justin was a cry baby
Justin refused to learn the position which is why he's in Pittsburgh and he's gonna fail there also.
@@anthonywarren9885how are you a heisman finalist but refuse to learn the position. This makes no sense. The Bears are trying to pass the blame on what happened with fields.
Something that should be noted as well. Is Andy Dalton was in that room as well. He was the starter and Foles was third string. So their relationship didn’t have to be good because Andy Dalton was the bridge QB
Love when my guys link up in person
They don’t know u
@@BMDIII you don't say captain obvious
This is actual gossip.
I'm not an old lady, and I'll have no part of it.
Everything he does on his platforms is gossip.
As a Bears fan I can tell yall this report is fabricated to paint Fields as a bad guy. Through a horrible situation Justin Fields was a great teammate and actually praised Dalton and Foles for helping him in his rookie year.
I've found this weird too. Kinda seems like it was the former staffer that had some issue with Fields, cause all the players seemed to have his back up till the very end. Maybe it was just "Teammates supporting their guy", but I feel like typically you can read between the lines when players in this situation are not being genuine.
Where is the proof that Fields was a great teammate?
We found the Justin fields burner account 💀
@@BuckLax3 exactly, players went to bat for him which does not happen in the NFL. At the end of the day, he balls out in Pittsburgh, it’ll silence his haters.
The game tells the truth about who is he as a player.
When you struggle going past one read.
When you lack anticipation.
When you immediately bail without the thought of trying to throw.
When you struggle processing what the defense gives you.
That is why my bears traded him and only got low draft value.
That is why he is a backup and not a starter.
Foles has something Fields doesn't have. A super bowl ring. Ah, gotcha
That’s a good look seeing yall to guys together doing the show let’s see this again
I mean what has fields done to get the benefit of the doubt? He even had a whole press conference blaming his coaching
he was so bad at press conferences. Some of the worst replies i've ever seen.
You don't have to like co-workers that's part of being an adult😂
Foles is the same guy who argued on the sideline with Nagy and shook his head at the offense. I dont blame Fields for not respecting him.
Also Super Bowl champ
@@chivamainlmao that means nothing when the rest of your career is shit outside of one postseason run
@@iamgoated8158 fields shoulda took some advice on being a backup then
@@chivamain Foles is in the same category as Jim Plunkett, Jeff Hostetler, Mark Rypien, Trent Dilfer, and Brad Johnson. Overshadowed by good defenses.
Who gt the dress code wrong? Great content as always but UNC and Ocho dressed for two different occasions 😂😂
the league knew before the media. Hence Fields value. 6th rd pick.
Stop it his value wasn’t that high because of his overall stats and win loss record for 3 seasons as the starter in Chicago toss happens in every organization you got 53 players they’re not all going to like each other.
Thanks for sharing
Imagine being so arrogant that you ignore a Super Bowl MVP that's trying to give advice to help you in your career. I thought higher of Fields than that
Go vfy
Particularly when you have stunk for three years
Lmao imagine being so dull that you ignore his former coaches & GM and players say he was amazing in the locker room, but one random rumor and yall 100% believe it.
Well if you take all rumor reports at face value then yeah you sure to see Fields as the a-hole here
He’s not good enough to be arrogant😂😂
Let’s let Foles and Fields speak on this…Fields even mimicked Foles by wearing one glove for the season…
I think there’s no coincidence that Carson Wentz and Gardner Minshew both had by far their best years playing with Foles mentoring them.
It’s very telling that Fields did not do so well after refusing to learn from such an accomplished veteran and team leader.
What??? Foles gets credit for thrm having good years but he cant put a good season together himself?? Shut up
@@user-uj3ts3iu4b and put respect on super bowl MVP Nick Foles name
@@user-uj3ts3iu4b agreed on the first part but to say Foles has never had a good season himself is just plain wrong. In 2013 he set a record for the best TD to INT ratio of all time and threw 7 TDs in one game that year. He came up short against the Saints in the playoffs but still a pretty damn solid season. I know it was a long time ago but he has in fact had a good season himself lol.
@@brettmackey6721 Man had one good season and one solid postseason run to win a SB but he has 💩 the bed every time since that SB
@@brettmackey6721 lol how could I forget.. I was there for those 7.. lol that Raiders game helped his season a lot..
Foles had respect from the league NOT from Justin Fields. That makes sense considering Fields complaining often about not being able to be himself. Justin thought his talent trumped Foles experience. Thats just his arrogance being exposed. If he doesnt want to learn from a Veteran player that's fine but he has to prove himself capable. Which frankly he didnt do. That is why he's a backup now.
Welp, this was a Lose Lose for everyone involved 😅😅😅
Excellent video.
Its so odd all these hit pieces come out on fields yet while with the bears the most i heard was he didn't like the open roof stadium....
Why Ocho look like he bout to go to the Derby after the show
4:07 that’s just a stupid point to make. It’s well documented Brett farve wanted little to do with Rodgers same how Rodgers did not want love on the team. It’s also completely different in a guy not wanting to mentor his replacement than a vet willingly try to help a young dude and they don’t accept it
@bryansilva6306 Except the way Aaron handled the draft of Love was very different than Farve who just straight up ignored Aaron.
The organization is trying to make their decision look better. The Browns did the same to Baker Mayfield, and it ended up being all cap.
Why not let a superbowl champion help you learn. Foles is well respected by players and coaches for being a great guy. Fields is now a backup. He should have listened and checked his ego at the door.
But they said Foles was tryna teach Fields something. To me, that says Justin was the problem. I would understand if neither was teaching out, but the way it was explained, it seems one way.
You’d think that Fields would have paid attention. He didn’t, and he went on to prove that he’s not an NFL starting quarterback caliber player 🤷♂️
SHANNON SHARPE HACKETT WASNT THE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR IN GREEN BAY
HE WAS THE QB COACH
Why is this even a story? Foles wasn't even on the roster last season
*DON'T WANNA PUT IT ENTIRELY ON RACE BECAUSE NO POSITION IS MORE EGO DRIVEN THAN A QB BUT WHY PUT THAT OUT NOW? HE MOVED ON U GOT YOUR QB.*
Because it is about race botton line
Seems like Fields a lazy pos
Look, nothing is wrong with people not LIKING each other. And, yes, Fields is there to take his job. But Foles KNOWS the business. Fields was TAGGED by the team to take his job. He knew he wasn't long for the team. All he could do was just keep playing and keep that kid on the sideline as long as his play would dictate. That's Nick Foles.
BUT, on Fields, if he's not listening to ANY veteran, that's bad. I don't think I'm buying this. Fields is a laid back dude and the way he looks, I could see SOME people thinking he's not connected. But if it's true that he was ignoring a veteran QB with a Super Bowl ring that HE earned, that's ass.
Who put this shit out?
Ocho way off base. The difference is foles is the backup trying to help the starter. Foles ain’t tryna take anybody’s job, he’s. Content with being a backup who plays if he has to. Foles only plays well in Philly anyway
Foles wasn’t the backup. Andy Dalton was the starter and was eventually replaced by Fields. But what Ocho is saying ultimately is true, why are the bears putting this information out now? They are trying to save face for how they handled the situation
You’re wrong
@@TheAlonzoAdams that’s more to the point. A organization wants a young player who is going to want to learn not think they know it all
Remember when fields said the game was slow to him in the preseason and was lit up and had his helmet knocked off the next game. He had two great professionals when he came in with Andy Dalton and Nick Foles and I bet he didn't listen to anything either one of them said.
It is important to respect a potential mentor🎉🎉🎉
I don’t believe this report. Fields was one of the most emotionally mature QBs I’ve ever seen coming out of college. You can criticize the way he plays the game, but he was not a toxic person in the locker room.
If a quarterback beat Tom Brady in a superbowl you might want to listen to him
I feel like this just for headlines lol but Chad an OG for his reaction
Justin looks bad,especially he never looked like a start QB in the NFL and he wouldn't listen to a superbowl winning QB.... I see why he ended up how he did
Man F Dat Nick Foles Is SuperBowl Champ Put Some Respect On His Name Dammit
A young guy with modern tiktok brain isnt paying attention?! Shocking...
I think the OC-QB relationship is really situational. In many cases, we now have HCs who are actually the OC to an extent as well.
Would anyone bet on Tua if he left Miami? How is Hurts doing without his OC?
If you look at the history of failed 1st round QBs, you will notice a correlation between OCs leaving, and a defensive head coach, and the QB struggling the next year.
If you find an OC-QB combo, and your coach is defensive… it’s often a better idea to fire the coach and make the OC HC, than lose the OC.
Everyone was worried about Stroud if his OC left, and for good reason. Changing OCs can kill young QBs.
Its Bull cramp, the reporter who reported this needs to be fired
And that’s why fields can’t read the field
7:00: It's all about relationships and nepotism. The in-crowd will always get the opportunities. Performance, be damned.
In ANY workplace…
People aren’t going to get along. It’s not about skin colour. It is human nature.
Not surprised to hear fields wouldn’t listen and learn from foles. He just never developed his game throwing from the pocket.
this is a typical hit job, blaming a player.
Race race race… come on Ocho we are sick of it. Nick is a Super Bowl champ and trying to pass on the knowledge to help him. Instead he didn’t listen and now he doesn’t have a starting job and they moved on from him. If he didn’t want this to come out maybe he should of tried and listened to Nick if he was trying to help him out. All well adios Justin u got what u asked for
Dude threw for seven touchdowns in one game he also did not just win a Super Bowl he went neck to neck with the greatest of all time and beat him
Bears locker room loved JF1 why u think getting rid of him was so hard? Why Poles put him in a good situation
Adam Gase with Peyton Manning is another stark example of a coordinator continuing to eat off a hall of fame qb.
I take it with a grain simply because they literally said the opposite about him. Plus we don't know if Fields issues were warranted because this was incredibly 1 sided
Respectfully. Nick won a superbowl. He beat TOM BRADY. He deserves more tespect
Fields, was not apart of the “get along gang!” U can work and not talk to everyone, you can be in the same room with a person you don’t get along with, and be cordial.
Yeah you can... but when you're not good at you're job, you can't afford to be just cordial... you have to be LIKEABLE...
@@Jayeye11 you can be likable as well, and be apart of a get a long gang.
This does not make fields look uncoachable it just shows he is uncoachable; a hard head makes for a soft behind. there is a statue of foles in philly for a reason. he was well liked and very friendly to wentz. the baars offensive line is garbage. wonder boy is going find out the hard way that the bears stink.
I get the competitive nature of any sport and competing for starting roles but when a experienced player who’s won a chip tries giving you advice it’s disrespectful to disregard them when they’re trying to help you
You are 💯 correct if that story is true!
As a bears fan it feels 100% fabricated...
@@shadow_tdProbably. Justin Fields has an opportunity to prove the doubters wrong with the Steelers so it will be interesting.
@@broncosbest6441 yea im a bears fan it genuinely shocked me hearing him and foles supposedly didn't get along
Considering the worst i ever heard was him disliking the open roof, the players and coaches seemed to like his personality
@@shadow_td Well interesting times to be a Bear fan! I don’t follow college so have no idea if Caleb is going to be the can’t miss prospect! All being well you may not careless about Fields in future!
Slow news day huh? A story about the Bears locker room from 3 yrs ago ?Really?
They just bashing Justin so that more people will accept Caleb faster.
One is a Super Bowl MVP, you should listen. It’s not like he’s Kirk Cousins who hasn’t won sh** in his career.
You should listen regardless of accomplishments
If your a rookie, there are some dark arts you could pick up from a 10 year vet
Kirk cousins is actually better than Nick Foles, who really lucked up into that superbowl
@@andeviouscarter8298Nick Foles is already in the Hall of Fame for tying the most tds in one game (7). Justin Fields will never be in the hall of fame.
@@Farcehole he’s definitely not going in the HOF for one game
@@andeviouscarter8298 The record itself is in the HoF. He’s on the list already, as in he’s already there.
Bruh. Aaron Rodgers, jay cutler, Carson wentz, baker mayfield, josh Rosen, Zach Wilson, etc. yall wild sayin it’s only black QBs that are the only ones who get slandered. Fields has one of the worst win % of all time and yall keep propping him up like he’s gonna be a franchise QB
I don’t think fields is a bad person, just lacks the mental game to play qb in the nfl. He looks at 1 guy or runs. He doesn’t even try to read a defense.
But does was he receptive to actual coaching though? Sometimes it's the messenger and not the message!
Sounds like the Bears are trying to “justify” his release and drafting of Caleb Williams.
OCHO, You look AWESOME in a suit!!!
Digging up dirt on Justin Fields 😂
This is ridiculous.
And that’s why fields can’t read the field.
yup
Foles isn't a petty guy always trying to be postive. I think young ones don't want to listen. Fields was probably like I am young & the man I don't need your help old man. It's not about race just the arrogance of youth. Field has a new chance in Pittsburgh & I hope Foles will teach college football 🏈 perhaps in AZ. I will always 💕 Foles . Philly Special. At my job I mentor those who are open to it if you want to do your own thing so be it 😳
Lol of course ocho had to play the race card😂
I kinda believe it because wasn’t something similar said about Fields in college and was reported by Dan Orlowski and he was dragged through the mud about it for some reason
There was NO one on the Bears that could help him… thats why they all are fired now!
1:01 I know Chad was the nfl player but come on that mentality is why fields is the back up in Pittsburgh now who says someone you’re better than can’t teach you anything
Hackett has been a HC but EB can't get anything?!!!
Ocho head look like a worn out elementary school eraser
If fields thought he was better than foles he's delusional
Ocho put that suit on and turned into Mafucking Hood Stephen A
Shannon's Kobayashi Maru: Defend a Steelers QB or trash the character of that black qb
I don't get along with my own shadow 😅😅
Sterling been pumping iron
He's there to win games that's it. Is that why they was talking bout kick off special teams. Man get over yourself Justin fields can be the one. I'm Deshaun Watson Brown. Dawg pound DNA.
It's not just the black qbs ffs.
Ocho looking good in the suit ❤
Teams always make up reasons to justify trading or letting a guy go, it’s a ready made excuse in case that player goes on becomes great elsewhere. Philly did the same thing with Desean Jackson when chip Kelly didn’t want him Mc coy or Vick, said Jackson had gang affiliations just because he’s from LA.. then turned around a few years later after firing chip Kelly brought Jackson back.
I think a table and facing each other a bit more... just like first take, would work
Justin fields was Sitting in the pocket too long.Trying to look pretty looking at his wristbands.Instead of throwing the football drop back and throw the football bro he was holding it all day😳😳😳 He was too busy trying to look pretty looking at his wristbands
Yall need better mics and something to kill that echo.
The use of the word "toxic" seems like a stretch; just sounds like the two did t get along that happens at workplaces every day. But I'm asking the same question Shannon had, why was information made public in the first place.
Maybe Fields would still be a Bear if he could take coaching from a SB winner.
Man stop, just stop with that mess. These kinda stories come out all the time about all different players in every kind of sport, not just the black ones. Why even go there, Stop it
Foles was the best QB Bears had that year. Went dummy vs Seahawks.
He's not even there anymore and the Bears are still being the Bears
How dare he disrespect BDN? SUPER BOWL MVP