Gamo changes the Game BIG TIME! - Gamo SWARM Multi-Shot Breakbarrel that Really Works!
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The Gamo SWARM Maxxim arrived this year and changed everything. Breakbarrel rifles are great because they produce a ton of power with only one cock of the barrel. No CO2 to buy, no need for expensive or complicated HPA, SCUBA, or SCBA systems. Just one cock, load the pellet and take your shot. The ONLY draw back has been that one shot at a time deal. Not anymore. The new Gamo SWARM incorporates a multi-shot magazine that automatically indexes and loads the next shot into the breach when you cock the barrel. No more fumbling for the next pellet. Gamo completely changed the game!
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Gamo Swarm Maxim .22 My review after 7 months and 4000 pellets.
I have been shooting airguns since 1972 at the age of 12. So i have had a variety of air guns in my 47 years of shooting them. I was excited when Gamo introduced a break barrel rifle with a 10 shot rotary magazine so I
ordered one with 2 mags.
Like any airgun you have to get to know its likes, dislikes, and pellets it favors over others. I have read a lot of bad reviews, experiences, about this gun and I feel most of those were from people with just not
enough patience, or time, to get to know this gun. I love this gun, but it has taken time to learn it for its true potential. I have shoot 8 different swarms all .22 cal so this will be for that caliber. I shoot to a maxim of 40 yrds
most times so this will cover that range and some to 50yrds just for testing purposes. I have shoot this gun to 75 yrds, but in my opinon thats max for a humane kill with it shooting 16 gr. pellets. I tested with the included
scope and a Centerpoint 3x9x32.
Shooting and barrel conditioning,
So I set up target at 25 yrds and just did a basic scope sight in with the supplied scope. Not a terribly bad scope but could use a much better one. Grouping at this yardage using Crosman 14.3 gr. round nose pellets was
1 to 1.5 inches. I wasn’t disappointed with this for the first few rounds. Some barrels condition up with 100 to 200 rounds, some take more as we all know. This particular one took almost 400 rounds to get the grouping
consistent to a 1/4 inch shooting 10 pellet groups, of course there was the occasional flyer which i left out for grouping measurements. I’ll talk about how I prep my pellets later.
Holding, and resting, the gun for accuracy,
So once i started getting consistent groups I played wit different types of bag rests, and holding the gun loose and tight. This gun is not that picky for this but it takes practice, practice, practice to find the best way for you
to become consistently accurate with it. I shoot from a sitting position most of the time off a modified tripod rest, or table, so I will explain how this works best for me and the fill in the bags I found this gun liked best,
Yes thats right I try different media in my rest bags and it truly does make a difference in acuracy with airguns. Ill explaining my testing of this for this gun. as well ans the padding i tested for my tripod mount as well.
I have found white rice to work best for me so that is what I started with and it seems to love that best. I used light media and my grouping was very bad. I used sand and same results, Grass seed and wasn’t to bad but still
not consistent as it was with rice. I use a firm hand grip with a gentle shoulder pressure with the stock resting midpoint on the bag and that works for me. But like I said you have to play with this gun to find what works best
for you but you will be rewarded with a very nice gun if you are patient and learn you gun. I have several friends that have bought this same gun and some find it great, some have cussed at me for getting one and they have
brought them to me to shoot and tune for them. I have worked on 8 of them so far and all of rhem shoot great for me. but learning your gun takes time and patience and I have a lot of that.
I have found that all of the ones
I have shoot like the same way I rest, and hold, them for me and all are just as accurate, but with different pellets
Pellets I have tested these guns like, Dislike,
Basic pellet conditioning to start with is washing and sizing all my pellet skirts, I dont worry to much about head size as long as there 5.50 min. and 5.53 max. This gun doesn’t seem to be affected by that size for accuracy in
my tests. some like Crosman, some JSB, some Beeman, but not a one likes the h&n pellets. Some will even shoot Ruger superpoint 17 grain, Mine loves them, just fine and others miss the target completely. So each barrel likes
something different. Just because its your favorite pellet doesn’t mean this gun will like them. I couldn’t get a single Gamo pellet to shoot decent groups from any of the 8 Maxim’s I shot. Not sure why but they dont like them
I shot 4 different Gamao pellets and the only ones that grouped decent at 25 yrds were the rockets. 3/4 to 1 inch groups firing 10 for measurement. Odd they make the gun and their own ammo doesn’t work well with the
ones I tested. You may have better luck but I sure didn’t. I have ordered the new JSB Hades pellets and have yet to test them but they look promising to me if conditioned properly for my gun, I hope. LOL.
How I conditioned different pellets for testing for best accuracy for each type of pellet,
This is rather in depth and will cover a lot with this gun and how it performs the way I do my barrel and pellets for accuracy depending on the range I will be shooting at, as well as the pellet I am choosing to shoot that day.
So i’ll start with shooting at home for squirrel, House sparrow, control at 25 yrds. I primarily use crosman round noise, and hollow points, for this at 14.3 gr. at a velocity of 748 fps. They are deadly accurate and rarely do i
ever need a follow up shot. These pellets are washed first, Sized skirts, and lubed lastly. I use a 2 cycle oil for lube and do it a certain way so as not to get them over oiled. Over lube can cause sever in accurate pellet groups.
I will shoot these pellets out to 40 yrds this way.
Now I shoot the Ruger super point 17 grn with no lube and just washed and sized. They dont group well when lubed. To condition my barrel for these pellets I run a few patches soaked with GOO GONE just for a light cleaning
of the lube then run a few dry patches through to clean any excess Goo Gone off.. After shooting 2 to 5 pellets they come into play very nicely and group well for me. i use this pellet for Rock chucks, Yellow bellied marmots as
some call them, for penetration and deliver a very distinctive wallop on impact.
The JSB’s I use occasionally I condition same as the crosman and weights from 14 gr to 18 gr shoot very nicely as well, The JSB’s are a softer lead than the hard lead from crosman, Ruger, so skirt sizing must be done carefully for these
pellets.
Now about the Magazines every one complains about,
I, like many others, hated this magazine when I tried to load shorter pellets into it. They would not slip into the magazin all the way without using a lot of force or a small plunger to load them in it. Well after about 400 rounds they
loosen up enough that now all my pellets slide in nicely and fit snug still. Love loading this magazine now, Quick and easy. 400 pellets to loosen it up was a pain but worth it. I can easily slip shorter, or longer, pellets into them
with ease. So even if you don’t shoot every day like me just run pellets through it while your sitting relaxing and before you know it you will be as content with them as I am.
The auto loader,
I have never had an issue with the loader, Pellet feeder, in over 4000 pellets of different head sizes from 5.50 to 5.53 ever. I know some have . But all 8 i have shot, tuned, worked on and with have feed flawlessly for me. It is a bit to learn
the best way to disengage it for barrel cleaning though. Other than that I like it a lot.
The CAT trigger,
We all know we like our trigger feel different. So this is just a set up i do for myself and what i like.
Well right out of the box the trigger is pretty good for 1st, 2nd, stage adjustments. However Gamo could still refine it a bit more, But for $200.00, I got mine for $154.00 shopping around, it is pretty darn good. I shoot it for a couple
hundred rounds like it came. But once my groups started to come around I removed it and polished the innards to take off the rough edges as well as adding a longer second stage adjusting screw. Now my trigger releases at just under
a pound at 15 oz and it has an almost hair trigger. I release the safety and its glass smooth with just a slight feel of the second stage restriction just before it releases. I love it this way and set all my triggers up similar for my tastes.
Finishing this up,
I’m not a pro at this but I do know it takes time, and patience, with any air gun, they all shoot pellets, but that’s all the have in common… every one is different in its own way and taking the time to know your gun makes it as accurate as
your capable of. If you expect miracles from it you better be the miracle shooter to make that happen. Few are. But you can make a Miracle happen with it for you if you devote your self to knowing your gun.
I hope my review, researching, of the Gamo Swarm Maxim can give it the real credit it deserves as it truly is a nice, accurate, air rifle.
Best video out there for this rifle thank you for posting it I bought one used and absolutely knew nothing about it. It didn't come with a instruction manual or anything to explain the features or whatever. Real good video thanks again I appreciate it.
Gamo has come out with some nice guns over the years. This one with the rotary mag and the other features, at the $200 price point should make a lot of shooters happy. Your videos are very informative, and helpful in decision making. Keep'em coming!
I have the Gamo Swarm Maxim.22, and I love it. I replaced it with a Hatsan Optima 3-12x50 AO Rifle Scope, Duplex Reticle, 1" Tube. It’s deadly accurate at 34 yards. Despite of what they say about Hatsan scope as being crappy, I find them very accurate and affordable optics. I also like the H&N Sniper Magnum .22/1.16 g/17.90 gr to have a very good grouping. Thank you for your review sir.👍👍👍👍👍
Finally someone who was willing to chrony a .22 pellet that weighed more than 11.90g - 12.65g? It sure seems like most of these reviewers actually get the air rifle they are testing from Gamo or whoever for free if they give a good review, all I ever wanted was honest. I have a Gamo Hornet Maxxim.22 and the most common pellets are the Crosman Premier H/P (what I hunt with) & pointed both in 14.3g I just wanted to see what type of fps & fpe I was actually getting not those crap numbers they put on the box using PBA pellets, I just didn't think it was going to take 30 min till I found your review? the Swarm and the Hornet are the exact same air rifle with the exception of the 10 rd. roto mag! Thank you Expert Airgun Reviews / AirgunWeb / AirgunWebTV for giving me an extremely close if not perfectly accurate answer!
Great convenience feature. I'll be interested to see of other manufacturers come out with something comparable. It certainly makes sense on a hunting break barrel. Many times I've lost that second shot opportunity because it took too long for me to load the pellet and get back on target.
Good review Rick.
great video Rick thank you . iv been waiting for this one
Just don't expect too much from Gamo Swarm Maxxim.
I didn't realize until today (2/2/2020) that Gamo Swarm Maxxim is a short range air rifle. Gamo doesn't tell users that the scope of Gamo Swarm Maxxim is set at 25 yards. I learned about it in a very hard way.
At 50 yards, you cannot even see the target clearly through the scope, and the accuracy is not good at all.
Good video as always,thanks. I have a Gamo camo rocket whisper igt and I love it,and it has some serious power behind it,S.A.T,it's comfortable to hold and it's pretty light too,i totally recommend this air rifle,oh and it's cheap!
Just got a .177 Swarm 2 days ago. The first thing I did was to put on a 3-7x32AO. Shoots great from 7yds to 30yds. =)
Finally a very good review on the Gamo Swarm rifle. Thanks
I want one! Thanks for the review
Thanks for another excellent review! It's probably a good thing that this feature was not available when I was growing up as the rabbit population would have been decimated!
Great video as always! Cool to see this review with a gun that has 1500+ shots though it.
After seeing this I just had to order one... Jumped on PA and ordered a 22 cal.... hope it turns out as good as the results you have so far with it.
thanks for the review, I'm waiting for the extensive review of the Gauntlet. probably will be my first pcp
Unless he gets a Crosman barrel. Or one of their usual quality.
Then he will regret it.
Another great video, great work.
loving it!!! Got one for Valentine's today!
very nice I want one great video thanks again
Very nice. Those look similar to the BSA magazines that come with the R10 & Ultra. Only problem I can see with the multi shot is it increases the chances of a dry fire if you lose track. If it has BSA hammer forged barrel I'd seriously consider it.
I have mine on order, getting it for $170. Looking forward to it. I'm trying hard not to buy it in both calibers as I seem to have that tendency. Fewer funds to spend and really only going to use it for recreation and fun.
Thanks Rick!
Good review, I just wish that epople in general would quit playing music while the shots are being fired. I want that dead silence so I can see and hear how loud the gun can be. I never have music playing in my ears when I hunt, so I really do not want to hear it when someone is doing a shooting review.
Ha ha lol
Most video recording devices compress loud sounds into about the same volume range as human speech.
If they didn't, every gun channel would blow your speakers if you raised the volume to where you could hear what they were saying.
You are not going to hear the full volume on these guns in 99% of youtube videos. Any video with huge (accurate) volume spikes is going to get tons of dislikes (jump scare videos). I'd be pissed if anyone sent uncompressed gunshot sounds through my ear buds. You would be too.
I have one. Its too loud. Wish i hadn't bought it
That was a good point just look for the groups different pallets
This is a great idea, for a break barrel air rifle.
Got one 3 days ago ,Take note any pellet that has a rim or wad cutter nose will be finicky to load in the mag. my R1 and HW50S 22 cals like the Beeman Silver Bear they don't feed well into the mag not having domed nose . Also if you have a pellet seater the ball end make loading the mag easier. Still not thrilled with the accuracy ,run like five different pellets ,and changed out that POS scope that came with it , for a Blue Ribbon that's worth more than the gun.. like to trry those GTO pellets but hate to spend that kind of money not knowing what they will do. Ordering a 4 X to get a free one is not an option i have enough pellets in 177. .20 .22 & .25 now to open a shop
just ordered mine at cabela's, cant wait to get it.
my feelings exactly I may have to get one of those .
Great vid Rick thank you.
What would I need to mount and Center Point 4-16X40 scope on this rifle?
Amazing review as always.
Rick what pellet you have found the most accurate?
Between this and my synergis.. It's the Gamo.. I like the weight.. I like mostly polymer design,i like the ease of cocking.. The Umarex is heavy. Its awkward,i guess i don't like the under levers..
The whisper is the one i have,i unscrewed the butt pad and put paper towel all the way down and then loaded the hollow stock with a tin of non lead pellets,a emergency fishing kit,a flashlight,lighter,an eye dropper of oil,a knife and packed tight again with paper towel.. It really is my go to bug out shtf piece of preparation..
Jus grabbed the wood version found on website
Can you provide the source for a wood stocked unit?
Thank you for your quick quick reply I do trust your word it's just that I saw a few negative videos out there but yes I will purchase my air rifle from you guys but I am waiting for the Swarm maxxim Magnum 2 come out thank you so if you could answer one last thing it's the Gamo swarm maxxim Magnum in 22 more powerful then the Hatsan 125 vortex I will be purchasing one this coming month April it's going to be either one but I want your honest opinion accuracy and power is what I want thank you
The Gamo Red Fires you shot are 14.5 grains I bought some at Walmart and the read 15.4 grains
All you need to know about spring guns you can get from a short tutorial at the Walmart sporting good section
I just ordered one from Pyramid Air and should be here on Tuesday. This is the most informative review on this rifle I have seen so far so thank you! I'm a little worried about the trigger pull which seems to be the most critical component on a lower end springer and I'm hoping to see a German made in a multi shot in the future. This is a great move for Gamo and hoping it is a huge success!
Air Gunner Reviews trust me... the new gamos have a NICE trigger on them... theyre not junk like they used to be.
I am going to wait for the warm Magnum to come out cuz I want 27 foot pounds of energy not 19 I'm trying to take down a grizzly bear LOL
The Maxxims are out.
Trigger is better than 1022
So... the world changing innovation is that I don't have to drop a pellet in the barrel every time I breach it? Wow! Much better than a gun I only have to cock with a bolt!
No iron sights is the only negative with this rifle; nonetheless, it's an excellent pellet rifle. Excellent review, sir.
Redfire tip shoot good in my gamo swarm maxxim 1.77 & 22
Good shit bro
The best thing I like about the Gamo Swarm is the 10 round mag. I love the fact that in the snow and cold of a winter NY i don't have to take my gloves off to reload. There are more accurate more powerful break barrels out there but man that 10 round mag is the bees knees. for that sweet spot of the $200 market there is nothing better in my opinion.
The pack in scope is kind of bad but hey all included optics kind of suck. I also wish there was a wood option but thats more personal preference.
Isnt airguns illegal in ny
They have the wood version on sale 134 I just paid. The muzzle break is bigger now though. I'm not sure still how I feel about it. Seems cheesey still a great rifle though shoots so dang good.
Damn that's quiet! Break barrel seems smooth and effort less as advertised too!
Yeah this is the only reason i like Gamo. They dare to try new things all the time and pushing the air gun industry to new levels! However i have owned a Gamo hunter once, and after very few shots, the wooden foregrip just splitted in half when i cocked the gun. Never never more any breakbarrel/underlever then Weirauch, Diana, Walther, Air Arms. But this new technology with magazine seems like a very nice step. Maybe if GAMO made a more classic looking hunting rifle with this magazine system i´ll try it but nothing will ever beat my custom tuned HW50S
If its cocking that easy its been used a few times for sure. Mine out of the box was surprisingly stiff to cock. We shot at about 45 feet small area as we are in Canada so not many places to shoot for free. Hard pull on the trigger and we are taking of scope and going with red dot. Impressed so far
Not many places to shoot for free in Canada 🤣 wtf . There's tons of places......unless you're in shitty B.C
@@gwood701 no where for free where I am unless you know someone with property.
great video I wish you did not have music in it I really wanted to just to hear the gun
nice gun
Very interesting........how does it compare to the Gamo Magnum .22
I have this gun n I love it!! It’s damn near perfect!! Only thing I didn’t like was the cheap plastic they used to make the magazine it’s should of Ben made of btr plastic plastic or metal cuz if u drop it or accidentally step on it it’s Gona break and ther not cheap ther bout $15-$20!
try the Beeamn Silver Bear pellets in my HW50s they are the most accurate @ like 12.6 gr.~ like to see what they do.
If you had to choose, this or Benny trail np2 ??? Thanks...
Multi-Shot unit on my .177 stopped working the second day I had it.
This was what i was afraid of.
Has there been a hint on what Gamo has new for 2021...is there going to be another upgrade on the Gamo Swarm Magnum maybe a Gen3... 25 caliber would be wonderful?
Something look wrong with my mag I have a gun I never shot but I fill the mag up but part of the mag is covering the hole where the pillet goes In even thought its filled up with 10 pillets
can you tell me which is better, the accu .22 or the swarm max .22
Rick, you're about the first person who hasn't completely slammed the scope on this air rifle. The word that's popping up in user reviews is "garbage" but you claim it's O.K. 1 to 10 rating? Thanks for your video as well, perfect for the novice as well.
Most people don't do objective reviews. They base their content on how the product resonates with their own preferences. That's certainly a way to do it, but it's unfair to the product, especially when the reviewer has unrealistic expectations. There are 2 shortcomings with the scope. 1. it does not have an adjustable objective which means you can't use full power magnification up close. You have to be 35+ yards out. 2. it does not have mil-dots for estimating pellet drop. Those conditions are virtually expected across the board with a bundled scope. But, those don't make the scope unusable or "garbage." The scope presents a very clear sight picture and maintains zero. In other words, it works just fine and presents a clear, distortion free image when used properly. Would I prefer an adjustable objective and mil-dots. Yes I would. But, that's my personal preference. The scope in and of itself, based on what it is and what it is designed to do, works just fine.
cheers
AGW
What is Gamo Swarm Magnum coming out with for 2021?
I took the spring off that holds the part that the magazine goes into in bent it can I get a new one .
Just bought the 177 for 98.00, good gun can consistancy hit a coke can at 35 yards and have taken out a couple squirrels.
please tell me is an entry level pcp more powerful than this because that would be the main reason i would buy a pcp over this i agree the pcp is more accurate but the power issue is a big one for me
Hi Rick, is this particular rifle an IGT or a spring version? If u hd to change the packaged scope , what would scope wud u choose? thank u
Just picked up two of these brand new with 2 cases for 50 bucks off of arms list 😂 best impulse buy ever. Fucking awesome
i think the key is pricepoint, as Rick said, you cannot demmand more than what this gun delivers for 200$, i was specting it to have a higher price just because is the only one with this system
Does the magazine cover the view?
GAMO I hope your reading this....... I watch these videos and Im so googly eyed over the swarm I can barely stand it.....then as I was the targets and think, this seems a touch more underpowered than most of gamos .22's........ then my eyes brighten up again.... I think of a swarm in .30 cal. Just imagine- the new break barrel multishot technology in the new big bore break barrel technology, can it get any better? The .30 cal seems to be slow catching on though in the break barrels, but if anyone can perfect the process Gamo can.As much as I like the pricepoint of the .22 model, don't sacrifice the quality, just build it! We''ll buy it!
hello rick 'just thinking 'I may try to add that self loader to my hatsan 125 'what do you think can it be done?
Gamo bravo👍👍
hey rick can i request for a hunting video for this gamo swarm? thanks in advance.
does it have a iron sight
Sight your scope a little brother.
What’s the difference between the Gamo Maxxim (or Maxxim Elite) and the Gamo Varmint?
Hatsan needs to integrate this on their 135 Carnivore. (or Gamo needs to come with this in .30 too).
Exactly the platform that this needs to be on.
I hope Hatsan will come up with a similar system. Would love to see a modified Hatsan 87/95 QE with this setup.
degorovi yeah
What's the use of viewing when not able to purchase or deliver to India.
I am waiting for a full auto springer.
@Matt V do you?
I am looking for the quietest of Gamo rifles. They have so many models it's confusing. Mostly what I found is to avoid supersonic speeds. I would like to see a practical review of the Gamo whisper series all models with a sound meter and the quieter pellet. Still not too convinced about the swarm v1 system. Second issue looks much better. The reviews I read on version one complain about jamming.
22 buy then to keep the fps down. That's your enemy from loudness
Can you retro-fit to a gamo wildcat whisper?
Is the hunter swarm 22 black band version the same? I can't find any details on my new rifle. Got it from Gamo site. Only says that it has a spring n goes 1000fps. That's all I found. Shoots great no issues, jus wondering.
what are the colour bands all mean what is blue ?
Any recommendations on how to clean it, I just bought one recently.
just run a dozen dry patches thru it. done.
Wow a green band tells us it's for hunting purposes, lol. Might help to make the barrel quieter for hunting purposes.
It's the loudest of all my rifles.
such an innovative idea, why did it take so long for this to happen when (now) it seems so obvious
This is not the first breakbarrel multishot, as far as I know not even the first from Gamo. Also see BSA Goldstar - very few new things in airgunning these days, just lots of hype.
It was tried before, but was not very successful. In our testing we are seeing Gamo's Swarm actually cycles/works reliably which is great.
Over the years there have been a few
Gamo Shadowmatic
Mendozo RM 2000 & 2800
Daisy(Milbro) 130
Diana 300R
Theoben SLR 98 - great rifle, but at $1200+
I'm sure there have been others, but that's all I can think of offhand.
pyramydair is it available in Canada in a 495fps please this thing is ausom
Not that we know of.
Can slugs be fired out of this? Been looking around and havent found much about this
Do you think the ability exists to upgrade other rifles with the replacement feed device?
looking at the system, it shouldn't be too complicated, just need some small modifications on the gun. Drill a hole or too and make some room for the spring. Actually you may not even need to drill any holes if you already own a Gamo from the later generation. You just have to get that barrel it already has all the mounting points.
Hi Rick, How hold sensitive is this gun compared to my Accu .22? Thank You.
Not bad at all.
Thank you for your quick reply one last question I have cuz I'm purchasing one this coming month from you guys cuz you guys have excellent policy for shipping I just want to know if the Gamo swarm Magnum 22 caliber is much more powerful than if I get the Hatsan 125 vortex 22 caliber I'm looking for knock down power and accuracy thank you
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you showed that with the right pellet this air rifle could be accurate. I need to know if it's grip sensitive and what you need to do so that it is very accurate. I know how to shoot rifles just not air rifles and I don't want to invest in a pcp.
Great gun....I love mine
Hello Rick, Great show you have here! I've been shooting air guns for 50 years and counting. I'm currently planning an extended camping trip, could be a year or more. Looking for a .22 gas piston rifle for hunting. Must be reliable and go the long haul in most conditions. Your thoughts on a rifle to look at please. Very Respectfully, Kyle
Are you Kyle rittenhouse? If so you are my hero ❤
Why is the buttstock design different in this video from the buttstock thats sold on your website?? I really like the look of it in the vid but not so much on the site
Ha... I should have wzited another minute 😁 got it! So would this be effective on racoon, skunks, and opossum? Thanks
Definitely some times if your close enough you can kill a coyote
music makes it difficult to hear the gun firing....
That's because the gun doesn't make any noise
matt bird yes it does
I could be wrong but isn't the grouping supposed to be closer to center it seems you go with were the first pellet hit
That's a common misconception or misunderstanding the process. When you are testing group accuracy.. you want to measure the group size. Overall point of impact is less important. In fact, shooting out the bull can adversely effect the group size as you've blasted away your steady aim point. Also, when testing, we often shoot with several pellets so trying to readjust for each pellet becomes cumbersome. It's pretty easy to bring things to center once you've settled on a particular pellet.
Cheers
AGW
Do you have to clean the barrel before your first shot? How frequently do you have to clean the gun barrel? Thank you.
Yes clean it before use to get rid of the gunk they use to keep it from rusting on the shelf.
is there a generation 2 coming out
Is it possible to buy this rifle in wood stock?
is there any gamo wood stocks that would fit on this rifle? I like the rifle.,but ill buy the wood stock if i know it will fit :)thanks
You may be able to get something like the Bone Collector hunter and move the wood stock over.. not sure if that would work or not..
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AGW
I'm not a hobbyist, not entering any competition, know nothing about air rifles nor do I really need to, except for the one thing I wish these reviews would mention right up front. What is the biggest pest it can kill with a well placed shot. Seems a simple, relevant and logical enough thing to mention. Are we talking hippopotamus or mouse or something in between? Sometimes to me it seems like the most relevant answers to the most obvious questions are the most difficult to find. Oh well... no info here that interests me. Nice review otherwise though.
Why is my Swarm so loud? It's way louder than my .22 I got it so I could shoot in my back yard. I've tried all wts. of pellets what's going on?
Have you tried cleaning the barrel? Mine did the same thing.
Yes I cleaned the barrel before and after about 100 shots. Still really loud.
Another reviewer gave the rifle good scores on the mag reload shots but very low scores on accuracy and types of scopes that are able to be functional with the guns current setup. Innovative but plenty of bugs need to be addressed to make this rifle a usable tool in the kit.
so here's the question: can the swarm bit be fitted on other rifles?
Not at this time. There are machined attachment points that are set into the barrel assemble.
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Hi Rick! What would you say is the most accurate breakbarrel Gamo air rifle on the market right now?
The swarm is pretty darn accurate. Their Accu .22 (not a breakbarrel but still a spring gun) is more accurate but less powerful.
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Expert Airgun Reviews / AirgunWeb / AirgunWebTV thanks. Is the swarm more accurate than the Bone collector hunter? seems to be a very similar rifle.
My Weihrauch HW 77K in .177 do 16 fpe and did a 1/2 inch at 35 Yds. Bachyard is´t bigger!! Later on I w´ll try it on the range. I think it´s great.
Will the Bug Buster scope work on this rifle?
most likely. Use a high mount.. although having a longer scope with the objective more towards the SWARM mechanics helps put your initial focal point beyond the device. Using a compact scope that's back further, you may find that the SWAM system interferes with your field of view.
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