REACTING TO PURSE ON FLEEK: GOODBYE HERMES, and the NEED for a WIDER conversation, my thoughts.

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
  • Hi there and thank you for watching. Today's video is an unplanned video answering your messages on my thoughts on the ‪@Purseonfleek‬ video, 'Goodbye Hermes@, reacting to the content of the video, giving my thoughts on what happened and how Mel was treated, but also on what I think is even more important, and that is the wider conversation on how Mel was treated in the aftermath and the general need to speak out against on-line trolling and meanness. I can't tag Mel;s video as it is currently private, while she reflects on what is best for her, but two other videos chatting about this video are here:
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Komentáře • 915

  • @BananaAna-hw8wi
    @BananaAna-hw8wi Před 3 lety +357

    I work in Human Resources in Canada, have been in this field my entire career and am in a Sr. Employee Relations position that manages harassment complaints. What I can say is that HR does not reach out to clients outside of an organization - that is very strange and not common practice. If it’s employee to employee we would deal with the accused “employee”. But in this case it should have been the District Manager, Sales Director or Client Service lead that should have reached out. For a company who is financially so well off it is mind boggling to me that their HR team is not operating within HR best practice standards and has their HR team making calls to customers - super weird!

    • @tpm9949
      @tpm9949 Před 3 lety +51

      Agreed. I am in HR Management and I was boggled that HR reached out to her.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +23

      Thank you so much for sharing this from an HR perspective, I wasn’t sure but it didn’t sound right 💕

    • @tpm9949
      @tpm9949 Před 3 lety +24

      @@ameliarosescloset yes absolutely. I am healthcare, and if there was anything between a patient and staff member our legal department would handle it. Not HR. So in Mels case, it would make sense that the SM or another manager would handle it. But in her video she did mention that the SM blocked her from social media. I do believe there maybe something more to the story. But I don’t know the regs in Australia. 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +13

      @@tpm9949 I think a few people have commented that there is more to the story 💕

    • @endogenetic
      @endogenetic Před 3 lety +11

      @@tpm9949 This is not a legal issue though. Just putting my thinking hat on, perhaps she had already been warned about her “behaviour” before and she didn’t change and the employee felt anxious handling her, which affected the employee well being hence HR is involved. No one knows the true story. We can all only take a guess. But at the end of the day, the company can choose who they want to sell to. Just because you can afford it doesn’t mean you will get it. If it doesn’t work out, move on no matter how passionate you are with the brand.

  • @StyledByGwenny
    @StyledByGwenny Před 3 lety +169

    I tried watching Mel last year, but I couldn't get past 5 videos. She just came across as smug & entitled. That's fine, she wasn't for me, I unsubscribed. BUT out of morbid curiosity I watched her video in its entirety. WOW. I'm all-for marking life events with bags... BUT she asked for a quota bag to be made available to her because she & her hubby were *going to start trying for a baby*! 😳 That's a bit much. Should she have been more chill? Absolutely. Should Hermés have been more up front with her? Absolutely. Should people have made such personal attacks & been so bloody horrible in the comments? Absolutely not. Be kind 👏🏼 💕

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +11

      I agree with a lot of what you said, regardless of your view of Mel, No need for the attacks. And I agree on the comments re the baby etc 💕

    • @agenteducateur
      @agenteducateur Před 3 lety +16

      I agree. Very smug. I didn’t get the whole chasing a bag then selling it then on to the next chase... like, it’s a bag, for the love of God. Hopefully her kids don’t suffer because of their mother’s reckless behavior. They don’t deserve any of this. For a bag...

    • @em84c
      @em84c Před 3 lety +17

      Yea that was really weird. Not only that it was a reason to buy a bag but to tell her SA. She even said she was saying it in the email because she couldn't say it in front of her friend at the store. Every email she had a different reason she needs the bag. Bad health, anniversary, etc

    • @ablack012993
      @ablack012993 Před 3 lety +19

      She was using her “life events” as excuses to get bags and to force a close relationship with an SA. If I was that SA I would have seen right thru it.

  • @Nailtheday
    @Nailtheday Před 3 lety +290

    I just watched Mel’s video and I agree that she was very emotional but if I was an SA I would think her emails were a bit much, it was pretty full on and I think in person she would be very full on in store and I know she thinks she feels friendly but I honestly think the store might have been a bit fed up with her. It’s awful to say but yeah, you need to have a healthy balance with an SA when it comes to communication.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +15

      I think that’s very fair and accurate 💕

    • @jgalt5002
      @jgalt5002 Před 3 lety +2

      emotional is one way to put it ! I can see the otherside point of view

    • @samanthagupta
      @samanthagupta Před 3 lety +17

      I agree, I wouldn’t want to deal with her

    • @em84c
      @em84c Před 3 lety +25

      She was being too friendly and personal. It was cringey.

    • @olwethunomvete4353
      @olwethunomvete4353 Před 3 lety +5

      I agree lol she was doing to much ☠️

  • @hellscape552
    @hellscape552 Před 3 lety +186

    Great and compassionate video. You have all your points right. I just wanted to add, that still, MEL IS THE CUSTOMER. I agree with you on the fact that they let her shop there, encouraged her to keep on shopping with them, still, it was kind of decided she never receives a bag. Like some kind of twisted punishment.
    In my eyes, it is an abuse of power and unethical business practice.
    They refuse to let her know to stop chasing the bag, as a "friendly advice", but still they have the time and energy to get her called by HR and being bullied. At this point, Hermes lost me.
    Influencers and bag collectors try to sugarcoat these actions as "their ways", and "everyone knows it" - it is just like saying "boys will be boys" after your daughter is being bullied at school by jocks.
    Additionally, I find it extremely disturbing that they camouflage it as a "customer journey". They purposefully fed her with misleading info, like: no link purchase, or you just have to wait.....
    It is a marketing strategy they do and live well off of it. It is not something special and exclusive to Hermes.
    Some ppl with money or passion for bags still buying into that, just because they aim to feel privileged to have THE DREAM BAG.
    Sure, Mel made some mistakes along the way, but why do not they tried to uplift her with some advice or good intended tips rather than turning her into a frustrated, disappointed customer. And the emphasis is still on CUSTOMER.
    I know there are ppl who are unmanageable. I worked in customer support for many years. Mel is clearly not one of them.
    Pushy - maybe. TMI - maybe. But still....if her SA could not handle it - OK, she escalated. Followed the processes. Then the store manager decided to ghost Mel and being passive-aggressive. Maybe it was easier to toss the issue to HR and pretend it is not their problem anymore. Then HR, who obviously saw only one side of the story has the audacity to call a CUSTOMER and treat her like crap. WHY?
    It only shows that Hermes is just a bunch of ppl, who made a way bigger mistake than Mel.
    If someone decides to glorify and entertain this "practice" then be it. All I am saying it casts a shadow on Hermes to allow such treatment.
    Another thing is: pls stop making excuses for SAs and trying to portrait their work as something extra hard. It has some hard parts but "getting a bag for you or any other client" is their job and EXACTLY is why they are there. Maybe it is not hard at all and this is just part of the picture they try to paint. Maybe getting a bag is frustrating since the demand is great, but still, it is not oil drilling and certainly not impossible.
    Earlier I also purchased limited items but stopped doing so because it was just frustration and fuss and I felt no special afterward when the excitement faded away. Slowly I realized it is just a stress factor for me.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +13

      This was so insightful and thank you for posting this, j thoroughly enjoyed reading your point of view 💕

    • @StelmaDesigns
      @StelmaDesigns Před 3 lety +33

      Raid Zero, I agree with your excellent post! I worked my young adult life in high end retail sales, though not as luxury as Hermes. I can't for a minute imagine treating a customer in that fashion or accusing a loyal customer of such things. It's shocking to me quite frankly. I can say it appears Hermes created this problem for themselves by the very games they play with customers emotions. There is no transparency at all. Sure, it's just a handbag but let's be real here, many women and men dream of those bags and to be made to jump through hoops to get one is quite something to me.

    • @lesleawitter5534
      @lesleawitter5534 Před 3 lety +27

      Raid Zero, excellent reply. I totally agree with you. As far as I’m concerned, Hermès did a lousy job handling this. I’m 60 years old, but I remember when there was a time when the customer always came first. Boy, have times ever changed!

    • @bflorida8469
      @bflorida8469 Před 3 lety +4

      @@lesleawitter5534
      I am 62.
      Sometimes Customers are definitely not always right! Each customer is different......... I don't believe she would have been treated as she was but it seems clear, she was simply fulfilling others orders. Hermes, as other Luxury Businesses are open to make money. It's my opinion and we each have our own - but it was Mel that was being untruthful and Hermes caught onto it.
      She simply was running a business and chances are high, she was profiting from selling those bags.
      Which is certainly her right.
      But it's Hermes right to stop selling to her as well.
      I shop in Hermes and have absolutely no issues, no games, no quota to spend in order to purchase a Birkin or a Kelly bag.
      In fact, I had spent perhaps 1000. And mentioned I would love a particular Birkin in the future.
      Within 4 weeks, the SA called to offer me this particular highly sought after bag. I don't even have to ask, if I visit the store, the SA will offer.

    • @kt114
      @kt114 Před 2 lety

      Agreed

  • @Tttxxxj
    @Tttxxxj Před 3 lety +80

    Personally, I tried to really be on her side about it, but the amount of personal information she included in her emails is emotionally draining and borderline obsessive, IMO. She came off very heavy, and while she might view her openness as a sign of friendliness and comfort, the SA may have found it extremely overwhelming. Still, I find the approach they took as a company rather strange.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +6

      I think that’s how a lot of people felt, I agree with what you said completely 💕

    • @Sana-gq9ow
      @Sana-gq9ow Před 2 lety +5

      She was trying to guilt the girl into giving her a bag.

    • @LoveNia_
      @LoveNia_ Před 2 lety +7

      I completely understand why they involved HR, that lady came off as absolutely insane. When you’re dealing with people with insane money you have to deal with them in different ways. Even if someone on a store level would have “checked” her most likely she would have sent a lengthy email & continued behaving the way she does.

    • @yesterdayitrained
      @yesterdayitrained Před 2 lety +3

      @@LoveNia_ I disagree. HR is not customer facing, period. Another part of the company should have handled it.

    • @LoveNia_
      @LoveNia_ Před 2 lety

      @@yesterdayitrained I don’t know that they are meaning HR like the department that handles internal affairs. I believe they’re meaning to say corporate that is customer facing. Otherwise HR most likely wouldn’t have responded or directed her to the correct department.

  • @CAsaidit
    @CAsaidit Před 3 lety +51

    I felt so bad for her because she seems so emotionally invested. However, someone mentioned she was sold a couple of major bags only for her to turn around and resell. I’m guessing that’s part of the reason she wasn’t offered. I can understand mentioning a life milestone once to an SA in conversation, but to mention it multiple times is beyond.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +8

      Yes I don’t think publically selling her birkin helped 💕

    • @yesterdayitrained
      @yesterdayitrained Před 2 lety +1

      @@ameliarosescloset She publicly sold a Birkin?!? OK, that alone could explain it.

  • @shejoh100
    @shejoh100 Před 3 lety +97

    The store manager should have contacted her and told her how her behavior needed to change and set boundaries. If they weren’t going to sell her certain items as a result of reselling they should have sent her a letter telling her that exactly.
    ETA: and yes, can we please bring back civility?

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +1

      Agree with all of this 100 💕

    • @bougiestocklvrdoc2470
      @bougiestocklvrdoc2470 Před 3 lety +15

      Sorry but I respectfully completely disagree. Hermès is a business and will gladly let her or anyone else continue to buy and spend their money. They don’t owe an explanation of why people don’t get certain bags. That’s never been how they operate. As far as the manager speaking to Mel, based on how Mel was reacting after the incident occurred where she didn’t get the pink bag they probably felt her reaction was beyond what they felt was appropriate. This is why they brought in HR. They were within their rights to do so. Also if the SA said she felt threatened, the store could face severe penalties if they didn’t bring in HR. It’s so unfortunate that it has reached this point.

    • @tarreemhacaruso2687
      @tarreemhacaruso2687 Před 3 lety +7

      Definitely should’ve told her she was blacklisted, because that’s what they did.

    • @suelashomb2922
      @suelashomb2922 Před 3 lety +4

      The store manager is definitely the one who should have contacted her, not HR. They should have handled it way better. And blocking her on Instagram? LOL

    • @yesterdayitrained
      @yesterdayitrained Před 2 lety

      @@bougiestocklvrdoc2470 Nope. It doesn’t matter the reason- it is not within HR’s scope to contact a customer, period. Someone from Sales should have handled it.

  • @victoriajames9814
    @victoriajames9814 Před 3 lety +151

    I just went to McDonald’s and got excellent customer service when ordering my strawberry & creme pie. I got my food in under 50 seconds. I paid $1.73 with taxes. I can’t afford Hermès bags, and TBH luxury stores before the pandemic the sales associates would get really close to me, and would like to stare at me in an obvious, uncomfortable way. It freaked me out. I buy luxury items online now, because the sales associates are too much for me. Unless your like a monthly regular shopper I feel like luxury stores couldn’t care less about you, and their goal is to be stalking you until you make a purchase or scare you into leaving as soon as possible. No thank you. I get better treatment, literally at McDonald’s.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +21

      The customer service can leave a lot to be desired but can I say how much I now want a McDonalds!! 🙈

    • @VeeLondon1449
      @VeeLondon1449 Před 3 lety

      Strawberry and cream pie.. That sounds lush are you in the England? I'm pretty sure that's not on the UK menu.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +1

      @@VeeLondon1449 wouldn’t it be great if it was!

    • @victoriajames9814
      @victoriajames9814 Před 3 lety +2

      @@VeeLondon1449 Nope, United States of America 🇺🇸

    • @Artar35
      @Artar35 Před 3 lety +17

      Best comment since CZcams’s whacky algorithm showed me all this drama .. I wouldn’t be able to spot an Hermès if it was on the clearance rack at tj maxx 😂

  • @mellyholly
    @mellyholly Před 3 lety +89

    I do agree with all the points you have made. I watched mels video and I did feel for her, because she was so upset and hurt, it’s not nice too see anyone so upset. I hope she is ok. I have seen some of the unnecessary comments and it’s uncomfortable to read. I’m a mental health nurse and see so many patients that have been affected by social media trolls. Even if we don’t agree with what she said/did, we don’t need to be unkind to someone who is upset anyways.

  • @mini0001
    @mini0001 Před 3 lety +88

    I understand why Hermes wanted to sever ties with her but in no way does she deserve to be personally attacked.

  • @luxeydaze
    @luxeydaze Před 3 lety +125

    It broken my heart reading how people were dragging her apart on the Purse Forum. Even if people don’t agree with what she does, or have an opinion, and she’s opening up about it publicly doesn’t mean she deserves to be mocked and ridiculed. Compassion and kindness goes a long way, and sometimes people should agree to disagree and keep their not-so-nice opinions to themselves. Poor girl. It was like Mean Girls: Luxury Edition.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +4

      Absolutely, agree with this 💯 💕

    • @dinavienna
      @dinavienna Před 3 lety +9

      Agree with you. It s not at all surprising though purse forum is a rather nasty place of gossip and elitism. Reading a few pages turned me off it completely some years ago - I never registrated an Account with them

    • @624LC
      @624LC Před 3 lety +4

      @@dinavienna Me neither - I do not understand how something as fun as forum on purses attracts such a bunch of entitled snobs.

    • @kathrin9674
      @kathrin9674 Před 3 lety +3

      yeah but let's be honest: at the very moment you even THINK about critizising the big holy H you are persona not grata and it's all your fault. That's the purse forum, and this is why I even do not consider posting there anymore. That said, I need to search that thread and leave a few comments.

    • @totesgene
      @totesgene Před 3 lety

      No one deserves that, but she shells it out too. She called someone a C U Next Tuesday in the comments on her response to her original Hermes video.

  • @AutumnBeckman
    @AutumnBeckman Před 3 lety +42

    I've seen people who talk badly about celebrities or CZcamsrs or people on reality TV shows say that those people put themselves out there so they should expect negative criticism. Nope. All they're really doing is using this excuse as (very poor) justification to be mean to people. That behavior is not okay. Thanks for talking about that.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +2

      I agree with this and it’s really not ok, whether we put ourselves on the internet or not 💕

    • @babablacksheepdog
      @babablacksheepdog Před 3 lety +2

      I do wonder if people would do the same if they had the person right in front of them, rather than typing away at a keyboard (I'm guessing the answer is no). It's so easy to de-humanise people we see on social media and assume they have no feelings to hurt. I mean, imagine if you were walking down the street and several hundred strangers approached you and hurled insults at you - how is this any different?

    • @dinavienna
      @dinavienna Před 3 lety +1

      Exactly !

  • @peterssister421
    @peterssister421 Před 2 lety +35

    Never been here before. This video reaction/critique is so KIND. Your cadence and tone is so compassionate. You are genuinely a class act!!❤

  • @ravensjewel-3886
    @ravensjewel-3886 Před 3 lety +140

    The problem with her video was that she took no responsibility for her own actions. She knew what she was going by selling and she knows the brand enough to know the issue that would cause. I feel for her cuz she was extremely upset but I think she needs to reflect on her role in the situation as well as her unhealthy attachment to a brand. That being said, the personal attacks are unacceptable and should never have happened.

  • @msnich394
    @msnich394 Před 3 lety +119

    As a regular customer at Hermes and have being offered and purchased bags, i simply only see it down to her SA not liking her 🥶🤷🏻‍♀️ May sound harsh, but her behaviour was intense to say the least.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +7

      That has to be part of it doesn’t it 💕

    • @lanagrey2180
      @lanagrey2180 Před 3 lety +1

      YESSS I AGREE!

    • @chansinging91
      @chansinging91 Před 3 lety +5

      Yes, it was definitely personal but kind of understandable after such emails...

  • @tracygarner5912
    @tracygarner5912 Před 3 lety +35

    I was shocked how Hermes runs their business in choosing who can buy something. In the US, HR doesn't call customers so that was shocking. Store employees choosing who can buy a handbag is shocking to me. A sales manager at some level should have been called her if there was an issue.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety

      I totally agree with this 💕

    • @joyfuljaj
      @joyfuljaj Před 2 lety +2

      I thought HR departments handled internal issues. I agree the sales manager should have handled this. The first response should have been the SA setting boundaries and maybe suggesting another SA if Mel wanted more attention. It seems they wanted to ignore her. She seemed very needy.

    • @yesterdayitrained
      @yesterdayitrained Před 2 lety

      💯 … to everything you said.

  • @daggnow9407
    @daggnow9407 Před 3 lety +61

    I think she was blacklisted for reselling her dreams bags and other items. There is probably more to the story. She is hounding the SA that it is her dream bag- and then resells it. Hermes feels it is cheating.And maybe that phonecall is a result of what they found out. It is not the SA job to confront clients, that is why HR exists within the company. The resellers score hot items , jack up prices and regular people are constantly having a hard time obtain them from the store. It is getting ridiculous with overpriced resellers

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +2

      I definitely don't think selling the birkin helped 💕

    • @sct4040
      @sct4040 Před 3 lety +4

      Resellers should be banned from buying anymore.

  • @TD-vb6il
    @TD-vb6il Před 3 lety +15

    First time watching you and I admire how classy your discussion was on Mel's Hermes "meltdown" situation. I agree she posted an emotional response video - her frustration and disbelief were quite evident. That said, her approach with the brand could have been more tactful and discreet. And so should have been Hermes' reaction to her. Sadly I think they will just freeze out any persona non grata rather than risk being vulgur with bluntness. That said, the Golden Rule is never out of style. You are perceived by how you make people feel which is much harder to forget than the words we speak. Just my thoughts...xx

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +2

      I love your thoughts, very balanced and pretty spot on IMO 💕

  • @tracygarner5912
    @tracygarner5912 Před 3 lety +90

    Let me get this straight, the sales clerks for the wealthy can't manage a client with questions and requests? HAHAHAAAA send the sales clerk to the middle class shops and watch how to manage a customer asking too many questions.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +8

      Definitely different standards! Hermes runs such a different operation, the demand for their bags is simply unreal.

    • @kynap7184
      @kynap7184 Před 3 lety +10

      But she in my opinion came off as harassing the SA near the end.

    • @keelyclevenger
      @keelyclevenger Před 3 lety +11

      That is what the Hermès SA get paid to deal with. They would be perfectly happy to do any of those things for someone famous or someone with a bigger bank account.

    • @ah5721
      @ah5721 Před 3 lety +6

      @@keelyclevenger SA are people too there is a difference of people of means being rude and having true elegance and refinement. I deal with wealthy people all day and they have been insanely rude which isn't classy. No one deserves to disrespected just the customer has wealth and status.

    • @Aja_Walker
      @Aja_Walker Před 3 lety +13

      @@ah5721 Sadly, in my experience in the fashion industry, its the wealthy who are the most ignorant and rude

  • @MisplacedBelle
    @MisplacedBelle Před 3 lety +46

    I stumbled on that video and am so perplexed. Even if you have a passing interest in Hermes, you know that you can't just go into a boutique and purchase a bag. I find that ridiculous, but whatever. I found her sense of entitlement disturbing and concerning. I understand being passionate about a brand, but in the grand scheme of things, we're talking handbags. I have a feeling that the SA was just over her demands, no matter how nice and polite that Mel thought they were. The constant lists of items requested was a bit much and yes, I think it would throw a red flag about her possibly reselling items. I think Mel needs to take a hard look at her obsession with this brand and see if maybe it is causing her more stress than it's worth.

  • @tinamax4023
    @tinamax4023 Před 3 lety +61

    I love handbags and I spend way too much money on them, but hermes strategy is just ridiculous. they basically ask for reselling with their weird way of picking out customers. I would never ever (!!!!) beg for a ridiculously expensive bag or any other thing for that matter. like I would never try to get into a club with a doorman who decides who is worth letting in 🤷🏼‍♀️

  • @alg94
    @alg94 Před 3 lety +17

    all i could think when i was watching her video was when kim k cried over losing her earring in the ocean and her mom told her there were people dying. im also not on hermes' side, i think its freakin wild that they sell these purses like the golden ticket, but obviously it works for them. but also to add, hermes banned oprah from one of their stores, i really don't think they'll care that someone with a smaller audience on youtube won't shop from there unfortunately.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +1

      Agree completely, they won’t care. And that made me want to go to Bora Bora!! 💕

  • @MsPruittsPerception
    @MsPruittsPerception Před 3 lety +53

    This is why I subscribe to your channel. You’re passionate about luxury and the things you enjoy. And you never push brands in our face. Or make us the viewer feel less then if we don’t have it. Your videos aren’t bragging, or over the top. You’re kind and we can see that plain and straight. Thank you.

  • @Tonimaroni2BeKindToAnimals
    @Tonimaroni2BeKindToAnimals Před 3 lety +75

    My self dignity is more than begging for a bag. I would never play that game. However, i felt bad for her.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +4

      Absolutely 100% this 💕

    • @kismet2354
      @kismet2354 Před 3 lety +4

      Absolutely correct! No bags or other material goods, is ever worth groveling for! Some people’s actions just beggars to be believed!

  • @aidaibrahim4381
    @aidaibrahim4381 Před 2 lety +11

    Jeez she sent an email saying she was depressed. They were probably concerned. She was listing so much, you can’t take things personal with stores like this. Cringe I wouldn’t want to be her SA! she was confrontational!

  • @melissabill1640
    @melissabill1640 Před 3 lety +74

    She was mistreated and not everyone is going to react easy and unemotional to that. My guess is most people would be pretty mad after being called by HR and essentially accused of harrassment. To say "it didn't help" places blame on her. The problem is CLEARLY their horrendous customer service and bad practices at that location. You don't treat customers like subordinate employees you report to HR.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +1

      I agree reporting to he was wrong, I think aspects didn't help in being offered her next week, certainly doesn't justify hr.

    • @misschelle23
      @misschelle23 Před 2 lety +5

      @@mc1069 you got a point BUT, it should've been the Manager talking to the customer not the HR. If we, as customers, want to clear things out we talk to managers not outrightly the HR who has nothing to do with the customers. Heard the SM blocked her as well which maybe made her more frustrated. We talk to customers to settle things not block them. At the first place, I think if the SA could've been more honest and straightforward to her from the start nothing of these happened. Communicating is still the key.

    • @yesterdayitrained
      @yesterdayitrained Před 2 lety +1

      @@misschelle23 I get you, but this is not the way buying luxury bags work. The companies consider owning a bag as a privilege. Their perspective is that they have “allowed” you to buy a bag - as if it’s a favor to you. I’m not saying this is a proper or typical way to run a company / treat your customers, but she knew this going in. From a company that operates this way (again, this is widely known, it’s not a secret), a customer may be dropped at any time for any reason, and no explanation or communication is required.
      Again, I’m not saying the company’s behavior is right, but, in light of the company, completely expected. The way they treat their customers is widely known, and she knowingly stepped into that arena. You cannot apply typical customer service norms to these types of companies.

    • @s.macklin9430
      @s.macklin9430 Před 2 lety

      Agreed, she was a FAITHFUL customer spending a substantial amount of her money on their brand. She should have been treated as a valued customer. PERIOD.

  • @beerachael
    @beerachael Před 3 lety +14

    When I watched Mel’s video I felt uncomfortable - looking from the outside in, she seemed like she’s lost perspective and came across as a bit obsessive. I have designer items and make videos too but as I get older I am more able to see that it’s not that important. I think that Hermes staff felt that her communications were inappropriate. She was repetitive, insistent and over disclosed personal things in an effort to cultivate preferential treatment. Add to that the reselling etc. However I didn’t comment on that video because my feedback doesn’t help her she’s got to come to terms with the situation herself. However for anyone to attack, mock or abuse her over it when she was clearly upset over the whole thing is horrible. I do think though that we lump anything that isn’t adoration and praise as ‘trolling’ if we put ourselves out there we invite criticism and people find honest feedback hard to take these days and become defensive.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +3

      I think this is fair and balanced, a lot of people don’t like criticism and we have to expect it when we put out videos, but not personal attacks in children. On a happier note, I’ll check check out your videos! 💕

  • @colleenjackson8358
    @colleenjackson8358 Před 3 lety +20

    This is why you and your channel have become so popular. You have such a lovely way about you. Personally I think that In this age of social media it has become so easy for people to be plan nasty and horrible under the anonymity of CZcams or Instagram where you can hide behind a user name. I have been asking the question for over a year now and that is “why can people not just be kind to each other “. Thank goodness there are still genuine people like you on social media.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +2

      Thank you so much, this is so lovely 💕

    • @yesterdayitrained
      @yesterdayitrained Před 2 lety

      @@ameliarosescloset You deserve the compliment! Lovely attitude and so well-done.

  • @Crishya
    @Crishya Před 3 lety +9

    This is such a big subject at the moment, i’m happy to hear your reaction on this.

  • @Lindisteg
    @Lindisteg Před 3 lety +14

    Totally agree. I think the reselling especially of free perfume samples etc was the nail in the coffin. The reaction though was ridiculous. How do people attack her appearance or children over an opinion.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +2

      I agree, the reaction was unwarranted, and I’m sure the selling of samples didn’t go unnoticed 💕

  • @Ainuratheone
    @Ainuratheone Před 3 lety +15

    You said it so wisely, be kind and be proud of what you write! People need to hear this. 👏Yes, people make mistakes and we are not here to shame them, we as well could be in Mel’s position and the last thing anybody need is to deal with so much negativity when you are so hurt. Thank you for sharing your thoughts dear! 💕

  • @rajjie100
    @rajjie100 Před 3 lety +86

    I owned a high end retail business , some people get their validation through "things " . I watched that video and this person clearly feels entitled. Anybody on the other side or in sales would view her as unstable and I feel they acted accordingly. Tears over handbags , come on !

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety

      Thanks for sharing the perspective of the sa, it was a lot 💕💕

    • @Dancingsophie21
      @Dancingsophie21 Před 3 lety +10

      Agreed RK - given how things are in the world, to constantly list your wish list in every email and talking money just comes across as entitled.
      She maybe should have taken a break as that video and the reselling of other items from them may have her blacklisted.
      With a new SA maybe ask them the best way to keep track of her wishlist.
      I love shoes and bags, but they are things......I keep my spending and feeling around material items private. This past 18 months I have kept my mouth shut as I’m aware others aren’t as comfortable.
      I would say, If you put something like that out into the world, if people do have an opinion that differs to yours, you can’t just cry ‘trolling’ and ‘be kind’. I agree there are people out there who can be blunt or cruel, however to cry about a bag (no matter how beautiful it is) in this current climate is so misjudged and people who are going through a difficult time aren’t going to have any sympathy for you.

    • @jgalt5002
      @jgalt5002 Před 3 lety +5

      very unstable and yes entitled !! your comment is spot on .

  • @suzyq8777
    @suzyq8777 Před 3 lety +19

    I just watched her video. I truly feel for her since she was so very upset. However, we all know that by posting the video, which she has every right to do, Hermes will NEVER EVER sell her another bag.

  • @kathyn1343
    @kathyn1343 Před 3 lety +16

    Very well done and beautifully said. I saw her video and thought it was a bit over the top, being so upset about a HANDBAG. And she puts herself out there so that is opening herself up to comments, both supportive and not. However, I agree that is not a reason to attack her personal life. The whole thing was just so strange IMO. Hope she is taking the time to enjoy her family and reassess what is truly important!

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you so much, I’m glad it came across well, you can never be sure. I hope she takes some time too, some of the comments were very hurtful regardless of how you felt about her actions and video 💕

  • @mayflowermatriarch5284
    @mayflowermatriarch5284 Před 3 lety +11

    Hermes is clearly leaving no stone unturned to maintain its status as an exclusive, aspirational brand. Even its scarves and costume jewelry are pricey. While Purseonfleek continually refers to her relationships with "her" SAs, the Store Manager [clearly aware of Purseonfleek's actions because he had already blocked her on social media] is the person who will allocate the holy grail bags to the customers that Hermes wants to see carrying their bags. That's never going to be someone who is selling on her bags, packaging, and trinkets. She got some good bags over the years; but she can't really be that into Hermes, since she's sold them on -- so why should Hermes be "into" her?
    Some perspective is needed here -- they're just bags! I don't care if Grace Kelly made them famous, I don't care how many the Kardashians own, they're still just stitched leather. An Hermes Kelly is not, not really, worth that much more than a good Loewe, for example. The delta in price between the Loewe Flamenco and the Hermes Picotin is in the eye of the beholder.
    This is just a commercial relationship. They have bags, small quantities of extremely desirable bags, and some people are willing to go to great lengths to acquire this scarce commodity. However, to think that you have a "relationship" with an SA is not realistic. You are a customer, one of many of the SA and one of many more of the store [and there's a lot of money chasing a very few Hermes bags in Sydney], and it's unrealistic to think that the SA is going to "give" you a bag because they like you, or because you're telling them so much about your private life; not if there's a real customer who spends 10X what you spend who wants the Kelly noir with GHW.
    Save your love for something that will love you back.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety

      This is so well reasoned, thank you for posting this 💕

    • @aceimus5319
      @aceimus5319 Před 3 lety

      Where I''m from, we develop relationship with market vendors who are usually the store owners as well, not with store or retailer employees of a company. Employees, themselves, don't have loyalty to the company. They can resign anytime they want. And why are customers so afraid to upset Hermes SA?

  • @tracygarner5912
    @tracygarner5912 Před 3 lety +15

    I read her wishlist like she was sending it to her personal shopper with Hermes. If they don't do that then they should have said point blank we can't watch for specific items.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +1

      I think they could have been more upfront for sure 💕

    • @joyfuljaj
      @joyfuljaj Před 2 lety +2

      I am not in the luxury world and wondered while I watched her video whether such wishlist (and constantly checking on them) was normal.

  • @YennieMC
    @YennieMC Před 3 lety +15

    Hello Amelia! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this 🙈 the Hermès system is indeed frustrating but at the same time, I see what you mean about it being an emotional video. There were definitely some contributory actions on her part that led to the fallout.

  • @lesleawitter5534
    @lesleawitter5534 Před 3 lety +15

    I just happened to come across Mel’s video, and I found myself captivated, watching the entire video. I really felt for her, basically because I know what it feels like to walk into a high end store and be completely ignored. I also know the opposite, being escorted from one department to another, as they open a credit card with several thousands of dollars credit. But nobody deserves to be horribly treated. I can appreciate a company that backs their employees. I’ve actually had employers in the past treat me poorly because a customer complained about me, and that’s not right, either. But to attack a customer’s integrity, particularly if they’ve been purchasing from them for a long time, just seems so wrong. I don’t care what Mel did or didn’t do, she should’ve been treated with respect and dignity.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +3

      'Nobody deserves to be horribly treated'- that right there sums it up 💕

    • @emilygooner9697
      @emilygooner9697 Před 8 měsíci

      Me too I agree how dare H be so mean and not care about how they treated her feelings she only wanted a bag they gangle in front of her and as far as she’s aware she has followed their rules to get it, hurtful

  • @DaylesAddiction
    @DaylesAddiction Před 3 lety +10

    Well said, it’s pretty sad how the ‘pile on’ occurs by people trying to protect the exclusive of a brand, and that very behaviour is at odds with what they are trying to ‘protect, defend’.

  • @yesterdayitrained
    @yesterdayitrained Před 2 lety +2

    There is NO REASON for HR to contact a customer. That is not within their scope of duties whatsoever. It doesn’t matter what perspective you take- HR does not have customer contact, period.
    Regardless of the actual situation, Sales or another appropriate customer-facing part of the company should have contacted her.
    Having said that, a company can decide not to sell to a particular person, and they are in no way obligated to provide a reason or any further information.
    I understand her feelings of rejection, after investing so much on a personal/emotional level. I understand money may have been the most likely issue, followed VERY closely by reselling (especially Hermes, as a major part of their brand is exclusivity). But from a completely outsider’s point of view, those things combined with what likely may have bordered on harassment, most likely let to the decision. Before anyone jumps on me for using the word “harassment”, I mean this purely at a “too much” level- perhaps the young lady was asking for too much, not asking for what she wanted appropriately, contacting the SA too much, being in the store too often, just being too pushy in general- if the money spent didn’t match her expectations, the decision may have been made that retaining her as a customer just wasn’t worth it.
    I wasn’t sure where to add this into my comment, but a customer should NEVER bring up what another customer has been able to purchase, and imply unfair treatment. That is simply not done. If she noticed this and was concerned, she should have privately reflected on the possible reasons, and moved from there. One cannot approach the store/company with this concern. It comes across as very petty, and puts the SA in a difficult position. The SA cannot and should not respond to this line of inquiry.
    Lastly, this video was very well done, from start to finish. And I completely agree with the wider discussion- there is is never a reason to attack someone personally, attack their appearance, their family- any type of bullying behavior, no matter who is doing it and why, is wrong. Bullying is not a constructive way to make a point - as these types of comments are unrelated to the issue at hand. Bullying comments are simply mean to be mean. No one deserves that. I really like your suggestion- because I think it’s an effective way to moderate one’s comments. Would you feel comfortable if your mother, child, or friend read your comment? If not, then maybe it’s inappropriate. Kindness - just basic decency - hurts no one. And if you can’t manage that, then simply keep your thoughts to yourself.
    ETA: Sorry so insanely long - this is by far my longest comment - so kudos if you made it through!

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 2 lety

      I made it through, thank you! A lot of fair points, and well made 💕

  • @haelieherrera32
    @haelieherrera32 Před 3 lety +93

    I think some of her Sa’s actually left just to get away from her. It’s unfortunate but I think she is the worst kind of client. The entitlement was disgusting to me. She honestly reminded me of veruca salt on Willy Wonka.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +5

      I don’t think she came across in her best light 💕

    • @octave9029
      @octave9029 Před 3 lety +6

      I understand that some of her behaviour was a bit emotional, but once again, make sure to be kind. Insults only make situations worse- :))

    • @octave9029
      @octave9029 Před 3 lety

      @F.R.N. F Have you read Willy Wonka? It’s a pretty good book, a character analysis on people like Veruca Salt would be recommended! ;))

    • @kokok3052
      @kokok3052 Před 3 lety

      She mentioned that some Sales Assistants were from France, their visa may have finished and they had to go back home.

    • @kkhaha
      @kkhaha Před 3 lety

      please tell me you're telling a joke. Just get away from a customer? Lmfao.

  • @melissagodwin1594
    @melissagodwin1594 Před 2 lety +2

    Watching this for the first time a year after the fact. I know nothing about what happened. But I’m glad your voice is on CZcams, and I’m glad I found it. The world needs more voices like yours.

  • @dhans6015
    @dhans6015 Před 3 lety +14

    There definitely needs to be a bigger conversation about online bullying...if things don't change, we're going to lose great content makers that don't want to deal with all the negativity that comes with being online. I've learned a lot about Hermes on Mel's chanel and it would be a shame to lose her from social media because of all this bullying. Thanks for making the video❤

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +1

      I agree with this 💯, thanks for your comment 💕

    • @alexagallagher710
      @alexagallagher710 Před 3 lety

      you put yourself online and make $$$ its fair game

    • @yesterdayitrained
      @yesterdayitrained Před 2 lety

      @@alexagallagher710 No, it’s not. Bullying someone is NEVER Ok. Negative, cruel comments, involving a person’s family and private life, are not Ok. In any situation. Just because someone is a public figure and making money while doing so doesn’t mean you can treat them however you want. Your moral compass is way off.

  • @samcassie9192
    @samcassie9192 Před 3 lety +5

    Your thoughtfulness and respectful way of sharing your view speaks to your character and life experience. It’s very obvious why you have success in your professional life, you obviously know how to manage relationships!! Major kudos to you 👍👍

  • @amybrando2585
    @amybrando2585 Před 3 lety +19

    I believe Mel put her video up 3 weeks after the incident & her comments said she had reflected on it & still posted the video so she could have her voice heard.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +3

      I think she filmed right away and uploaded 3 weeks later, maybe in hindsight she should have filmed a more thought upon response 💕

    • @amybrando2585
      @amybrando2585 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ameliarosescloset yeah that’s what I meant to write lol. She had watched it back & still posted it. Obviously still as upset 3 weeks later. She did a poll on taking it down & I said yes.

  • @littlebean8856
    @littlebean8856 Před 3 lety +4

    My first time watching your video, and I really enjoyed it. Your view was objective, clear, logical and unbiased. Most of all, you’ve shown kindness, which seems to be lacking in the Internet these days. ❤️❤️❤️

  • @erinnadia0409
    @erinnadia0409 Před 3 lety +8

    And yes! The bullying is so wrong!
    Thank you for mentioning this and using your platform to remind others to always be kind

  • @jillianaccadia6742
    @jillianaccadia6742 Před 2 lety +3

    i am totally clueless about the fuss with fashion and stumbled onto your thread by accident. However I listened to every word you said, and what you said was so great on so many levels. Such a thoughtfull from the heart honest and "nice" level of communication. What a lovely lady I think you are. Bless you xx

  • @cycy1578
    @cycy1578 Před 3 lety +23

    I wish I saw her video, but from the looks of things, they didn't want her to have their goods.Hermes is the most notorious. I suppose I'm struggling with her being "depressed" because she didn't score the prize due to her own questionable behavior? I can't feel bad for her. The trolling and abusive comments were over the top, but seriously, she needs to get some perspective here.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +2

      I think that’s a fair summation, she didn’t really help herself but the attacking comments on her family are not ok 💕

  • @glendaplease971
    @glendaplease971 Před 3 lety +11

    Thank you for being an advocate for kindness.

  • @siyrean
    @siyrean Před 3 lety +43

    HR to her "I'm sorry but your SA no longer feels they can meet your needs." Oh look, problem solved.

  • @lesliecraven3087
    @lesliecraven3087 Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you you got my follow. In my opinion, your best point is that when you are going against the grain of the brand selling stuff, especially because these brands have issue with the reselling market (buying a new bag with tags from someone that has access to the merchandise) or the pre-love market ( buying from huge resellers like the real real), you are treading in delicate water. The brands have lawsuits pending about reselling. Also, you touched on the insensitivity of Hermès not notifying a very loyal customer who spent a lot of money about undesirable behavior. This is another point that has not been raised. Decent Customer Service would warn the client that there are issues with the account. Perhaps the account has been red flagged and that allows the client to change their behavior perhaps redeem themselves if you will. I don’t know if Hermès ever gave Mel the chance. Anyways great discussion. I have learned a lot from Mel. She deserves better.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety

      Thank you, I agree with what you have said, I really think the big houses are trying to crack down hard on re selling 💕

  • @fennyellis3366
    @fennyellis3366 Před 3 lety +17

    At the end of the day, we can't take it with us!🤷‍♀️

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety

      Love this 💕

    • @fennyellis3366
      @fennyellis3366 Před 3 lety

      Love your channel!
      I can appreciate the finer things in life...the craftsmanship, history and iconic, cultural significance!
      It's just not in the cards financially for me.
      So, with that being said, I'm in awe of those who are able to have these luxuries!
      I may have a twinge of envy but it doesn't last when I see the price tag!🤗🙋‍♀️

  • @angelamumo1561
    @angelamumo1561 Před 2 lety +2

    I love your reasoned, well thought and kind response to the whole issue. I wish we could all be like that

  • @FromJWithLove
    @FromJWithLove Před 3 lety +6

    Totally agree with everything you mentioned. I’m just still a little perturbed that HR would contact a customer in this context.

  • @Paigedh1776
    @Paigedh1776 Před 2 lety +2

    This was so refreshing to watch. Thank you for adding a grownup voice to the internet.

  • @bargain.hunting.blonde
    @bargain.hunting.blonde Před 3 lety +6

    Completely agree with everything you said about the keyboard warriors! Once people can hide behind a screen name the things they say are crazy. Were the emails a lot- yes; might the in person discussion had more to it then we know? -yes; but putting her personal address out there and attacking her family, especially her children were so uncalled for. Also I am confused why people feel the need to personally attack her... like this was between her, the SA and Hermes. It has nothing to do with us as viewers! Thank you for your video!

  • @kath1626
    @kath1626 Před 2 lety +1

    The CZcams algorithm sent me here after watching Mel's original video and this is the most compassionate reaction I've seen. New subscriber! ❤

  • @laurelldockall2399
    @laurelldockall2399 Před 3 lety +3

    You hit the nail on the head. I believe everything you said to be correct. You also did it in such a nice way. We all need to treat others kindly. I personally could not live with myself if I were to treat someone badly. I bet you are a fun and loyal friend to have. ❤️

  • @imbaghappy
    @imbaghappy Před 3 lety +3

    Great commentary. I agree with the points you said. It was a general miscommunication issue and eventual harsh treatment with having HR reach out. It is pretty apparent the SM doesn’t like Mel so it’s definitely a factor. They just didn’t want to address it directly and I agree there may have been a bit of stringing along when they probably didn’t have any intention of offering her any of her wish list bags. Really sad overall.
    As for online bullying, this is mainly why I put off making videos for so long. Until now, I keep my face hidden from my videos even if it will affect my viewership. Bullying and privacy are my main concerns. People are just so comfortable judging others while behind their screens... anonymous.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety

      Absolutely agree with this, and I will check out your channel, love the fendi in your profile pic 💕

  • @stevieg6418
    @stevieg6418 Před 3 lety +22

    She wonders why Hermes did want to sell to her when you obviously resell them on. You ask them for it then you sell them on. Make it make sense. She was desperate to keep on having them sell to her so you didn't have to shop preloves and not make any money reselling them. The whole reason why she didn't get your bag is they don't want to sell to someone who resells them on some pretext months down the line at an inflated price.

  • @ayid864
    @ayid864 Před 3 lety +46

    Mel maybe a good person but she’s a toxic client. It is also the right of the SA to cry foul when she feels threatened.

  • @ea1420
    @ea1420 Před 3 lety +22

    Just because an SA is an SA for a luxury house doesn’t mean that they should endure harassment. And, I believe that Mel’s behavior could have easily been interpreted as harassment. Personally, I don’t really have an issue with the way that Hermès handled things. I think you pointed out the many issues that probably led Hermès to making the decision that they did. With that said, even though I agree with Hermès actions, I totally disagree with the way that Mel has been treated online. She posted a video sharing her perspective. I can disagree with her perspective and point of view without attacking other elements of her life. And, I didn’t even comment on her video. To me it was a clearly a video that helped her express her feelings about the situation. I had nothing worthwhile to say, so why comment?

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +1

      I agree with this completely, you can think she went to far with the SA but she doesn’t deserve personal attack. I did not comment either 💕

  • @kl6917
    @kl6917 Před 3 lety +6

    Well said babe 🙌🏾🙌🏾👏🏽👏🏽. Compassion is always better than hate 🥰😘🥰

  • @dkaymc6758
    @dkaymc6758 Před 3 lety +55

    😱I don’t tell my actual friends that much personal information lol I understand having HR calling is horrific but so we’re all those crazy emails .

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety

      There was a lot of info! 💕

    • @lanagrey2180
      @lanagrey2180 Před 3 lety +3

      I know! It was sooo weird how she would just go on about so much personal stuff. She’s like one of those customers that come up to check out and you ask them hi did you find everything all right. And then she just starts talking about her entire life story lol

    • @em84c
      @em84c Před 3 lety +1

      @@lanagrey2180 yea the SA would just respond politely, but not revealing any personal info herself. You'd think she'd get the message that the SA is not interested in her personal life. But she kept doing it!

  • @traingirl.meghan
    @traingirl.meghan Před 3 lety +1

    So I didn't watch the video, but I just enjoy hearing your take on things generally. I think you expressed your points gently and eloquently. I can understand both sides and why it's a sensitive topic, and I certainly don't blame brands for wanting to control/protect their image and product. It's a sticky issue figuring out how much control they can/should have once they sell an item. I think you made an excellent point regarding packaging; I hadn't thought about how counterfeiters could try to use that to pass off fakes. I've never considered selling packaging because I enjoy seeing it and using it when I can!
    I understand why Hermes would not want to sell to known resellers since resellers make an enormous profit on Hermes bags, and the SA would have rather sold that bag to someone who really wanted it considering how few bags are produced and how long they take to make. Of course accidents happen and we think we want something that doesn't actually work for us, but it would become obvious to Hermes when it becomes a frequent habit.
    Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you so much for watching! I think the re selling is a big problem for luxury brands, bags like these, as you say take so long to make, I don’t think they will be happy when they see them sold

  • @bitsnbags
    @bitsnbags Před 3 lety +10

    I'm not in her league, and I think it was very brave if her to post that video. However I agree, she was far too embedded in the emotional reaction. But still, ppl need not criticise her so harshly xx

  • @ninareppert7746
    @ninareppert7746 Před 3 lety +3

    A friend of mine reminded me that a purse is a piece of leather with hardware on it. Mel’s devotion to Hermès puzzles me, however, we all have our own interests. Excellent review.

  • @karenalowe2210
    @karenalowe2210 Před 3 lety +22

    I felt the regular wish lists that mentioned medical issues and life events could have been construed as emotional blackmail and harassment hence the SA going to HR for help with the situation. Also, discussing another client's purchase should never have been brought up and discussed either by client or SA - that was inappropriate. As someone that works in high end sales I understood how the SA must have felt with the continuous lists that kept coming through. At the end of the day this was very much a 'first world problem' and many viewers may have been very unsympathetic to the issue. At the end of the day it's just 'stuff' isn't it? She could go the resale route if she really wanted to as clearly she is in the fortunate financial position to do so. Hermes must have thought it was quite serious in terms of protecting their own staff for HR to have got in touch. However, whatever everyone thought of it online bullying is completely unacceptable and she didn't deserve it. Sometimes though, we all need to be grateful for what we already have rather than complaining about what we don't have!

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +1

      I agree with every word you have written, I think it’s a very accurate and fair reflection and thank you for giving the perspective of the sa 💕

  • @kklvoescc
    @kklvoescc Před 3 lety +13

    I agree emails or texts are always tricky as the interpretation can be a 180 from what you intend. She probably thought she was making it easy for her SA by listing everything and giving many “options” to fulfill. The personal information was probably shared to try to build a “friendship” with her SA. SoCoco here on CZcams said her SA is very aware of social media and people trying to play “the game” and finds it amusing as there is really no game to play. So I can see why her efforts completely backfired. And Hermes is definitely against reselling as they are now printing on their receipts basically that reselling is not allowed and I have heard of people getting banned for it. That said, you are so right about the comments and the bashing she has taken for putting her raw thoughts out there. It is unwarranted. She is entitled to her feelings and thoughts. I am really glad you put this video out there to really make us think about this very important issue. 😞😞😞

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety

      I agree with every word you have written my friend 💕

    • @dinavienna
      @dinavienna Před 3 lety +4

      It s pretty ridiculous a company would (rightfully) stress their right to sell to whomever they want and then try and deny the buyer the right to resell their own property. Commercial reselling can be an issue but a consumer selling on their own property is no issue whatsoever and their right. Hermes should be consistent when they claim commercial rights for themselves but want to forbid lawful dispositions of their customers with their property ! This company really does not come across „supportable“

  • @deezame
    @deezame Před 3 lety +28

    The selling of packaging unfortunately helps counterfeiters so that wouldn’t help. Definitely the bullying is nasty

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +3

      Agree with both points 💕

    • @jifeak
      @jifeak Před 3 lety +2

      You think counterfeiters can replicate bags to superfake level but can't replicate the packaging???? They don't care that much.

    • @ladyborat1
      @ladyborat1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jifeak can they really? Packaging should not be sold.

  • @Skyebright1
    @Skyebright1 Před 3 lety +8

    You’d think customer service rather than HR would’ve contacted her. The SA seems to have talked about the rose Sakura client, which might be inappropriate about private information

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah they sa shouldn’t have said that and def customer service or the actual store 💕

  • @jacquelinemoss1911
    @jacquelinemoss1911 Před 3 lety +5

    I agree with what you have said here, it’s what I took from the video as well and I also agree that the public’s behaviour was just not ok! Yes she did react out of emotion and needed time to reflect before reacting publicly.
    However something I wasn’t aware of, although knowing she bought and sold pieces on the regular, which is hers to do so how she pleases was that she sold off packaging and samples too. There is so many things wrong with that IMO. From the companies perspective it is representative of their house and also counterfeiters like you mentioned would be a huge issue, along with a whole host of other problems. From a consumers POV it’s just plain wrong! She’s taking advantage of people that want a piece of the maison and can’t afford it and that actually really bothered me. Anyone remember the Chanel lawsuit against a beauty counter worker that sold off the demonstration nail polishes???? If they did they wouldn’t do that, that’s for sure.

    • @karriek2207
      @karriek2207 Před 3 lety +1

      Jacqueline Moss, you make excellent sense . I agree with you.

    • @jacquelinemoss1911
      @jacquelinemoss1911 Před 3 lety +1

      @@karriek2207 Thank you 😊🙏🏼

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +1

      I think you are right, you’re expanded on the point and I think you are spot on, this definitely didn’t help her cause I don’t think 💕

  • @LesleyAdina
    @LesleyAdina Před 3 lety +3

    Well said! Thank you for sharing your thoughts, I agree with everything you said! I wasn’t aware she got such nasty and malicious backlash. That’s just so sad...

  • @EmiliaEarlam
    @EmiliaEarlam Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I do agreed with you about the long wish list, I was feeling so sorry for her until toward the long wish list that sound like a bit pushy and demanding. The end the day it’s just bag and materials things, there is more important in life. I hope she is ok. Have a lovely week to you. X

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +1

      I agree absolutely, it’s just a bag, I think it got built up so much it became much more 💕

  • @MeticulousShopper
    @MeticulousShopper Před 3 lety +5

    I imagine HR was called in because she is a CZcamsr. It's hard for the store to make a call on how to handle this when they know there's going to be significant blowout on social media

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +1

      That’s a good point 💕

    • @yesterdayitrained
      @yesterdayitrained Před 2 lety +1

      Possibly- but still wrong. HR handled the call very poorly- which is somewhat understandable, as they are not customer-facing. If not Sales, then PR should have handled it. Of course, it should have never reached this point in the first place. As soon as they became aware she was reselling bags, the store/Sales could have quickly and clearly ended their relationship with her.

  •  Před 3 lety +4

    Absolutely agreed. I believe she came across as desperate and demanding, which didn’t sit well with them. However, I also find their reaction rather ridiculous because if anything they should be happy they’re taking her money.

  • @tpeeloves4560
    @tpeeloves4560 Před 3 lety +1

    I did not see Mel's video on this, but from what I am gathering in this video, the point I 100% agree on is that there is no need to leave nasty, personal comments under any circumstances. You did a good job sharing your reaction in a very delicate and compassionate manner.

  • @jackieduplessy1459
    @jackieduplessy1459 Před 3 lety +10

    Your video was so genuine and I appreciate it. I feel the hurt in your voice for Mel. I appreciate you for that. Honestly, I don’t think Mel did anything wrong. She felt comfortable enough with her SA to be deep and personal. I think it was the store manager. He probably saw Mels eBay store and decided that he was not going to extend an offer. The poor SA got caught in the middle. She couldn’t tell Mel- you are not getting a beg and she string her along instead. The SA made a mistake by divulging info about a client and quickly went into defensive mode thus the call from HR. People are mean. I read some of these messages left to Mel and I was appalled. I kept giving them thumb down but that didn’t help me. I feel sad for her because I know she loves the brand. People should support her not attacking her. I’ve sent plenty of long extended emails to my SAs at LV and Chanel- not a big deal. The fault is on the store manager and he is a coward. Thanks for the video.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you, I think you are right that store manager took a view 💕

    • @Mia5528
      @Mia5528 Před 3 lety +2

      @Jackie Duplessy OMG! Finally someone who thinks like I do! There are some people whose SA have become their friends and of course youtubers (lvlovercc etc.). There is nothing wrong in this: they talk about personal things in their lives and their wishlists are huge. Some people (SA or clients) don’t like that and it’s OK. Each their own. It was the store manager definitely! And that phone call from HR, OMG! I like Hermes but if they do that kind of things to their clients, I don’t know if I want more items from the brand... I had a bad experience with LV (banned for multiple returns of defective items) and I was so upset (like Mel, so I understand her) but now that I moved to Hermes and Chanel I’m so happy! People are very mean, we definitely need more kindness! I feel bad for Mel 😘😘😘

  • @luxpetite
    @luxpetite Před 3 lety +1

    You bring up so many valid points! The bullying is not okay. I agree, the top tier houses are watching!

  • @romangarcia2996
    @romangarcia2996 Před 3 lety +16

    Da fact dat she has eBay store and resales samples and packing and the big brands are trying to stop resellers because it real customers that want the same bag and can’t get it

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +6

      I think that’s a very valid point and something I’m sure they were displeased at

    • @nora4981
      @nora4981 Před 3 lety +5

      She was so tacky for that 😂

  • @bagsandlifestyle
    @bagsandlifestyle Před 3 lety +3

    Totally agree with what you said. You have to think about the words you write. You also have to stand behind what you’re saying and being kind is always the best way to go! If you’re not willing to say it to some’s faces don’t write it! Also, if you are willing to say what you write, think about if you’d want someone to say that to you or someone you care about.

  • @CariSalgado
    @CariSalgado Před 3 lety +5

    But, she had the opportunity to get bags from them , quite a few. She said in one of her previews video that , it’s hard to score dream bags of there because only 2% of the Hermès sale is in that country. Why she didn’t travel somewhere else to get it? She should have known better. I hope she feels better by now.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety

      She did, I love the pink birkin she got, I’m sure she has some thoughts herself now when she looks back on it 💕

  • @claudiakalkbrenner4148
    @claudiakalkbrenner4148 Před 3 lety +1

    Absolutely agree with you, be kind to others, treat others like you like people to treat you! The world is in deep need of love and kindness! Amazing video!

  • @cacagaspar
    @cacagaspar Před 2 lety +3

    Also, she never went to the store, she kept setting up meetings, but always making excuses and not showing up… that is kind of disappointing for the S.A, and her wish list was always so long and not specific. So if I was the S.A I would also immediately cancel her, because it was noticeable that she was not having a good time with the brand. What I notice too is that she was being effusive, she didn’t have that kind of intimacy with the S.A, and kept on telling really personal stories.

  • @shanlei
    @shanlei Před 3 lety +1

    I think everything you said is right! Mel went wrong in a lot of ways but for me, if I was an SA, my “breaking point” would be when she wrote in an email that it was making her DEPRESSED…
    I would also like to point out that the Hermes game is so gross. It’s the most manipulative marketing strategy ever & it is designed in a way that makes people insanely stressed. At least at Chanel I get direct answers. Playing mind games with your customers is weird. Also, I bought Cartier packaging just because my pre-loved jewelry didn’t include the box! If this was also a red flag for the SA they should have responded to her *many* emails maturely and honestly….

  • @wl8648
    @wl8648 Před 3 lety +18

    I think this was a great video what was most important to me is that this woman who loves this brand was treated so terribly. Also this brand did not allow Oprah Winfrey to touch or look at the bags. It’s just ridiculous and racist and classist and even though I could probably buy one of their bags I wouldn’t because that treatment is disgusting. And if you’re going to spend the money and enjoy it I don’t care who you are you should be treated with respect so I could give a crap about how awesome the bags are when they treat customers like crap. Honestly….are you kidding me right now? $22,000 for a five year old bag. Good grief if you gave half of that to your local homeless shelter you would still have $11,000 to spend on handbags. And your soul would be uplifted because you fed God knows how many people. That said I respect everyone’s right to spend their money as they see fit. But no abuse to the customer thank you

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety

      Absolutely no abuse to the customer, Hermes is a funny old game

  • @MM-ir8zv
    @MM-ir8zv Před rokem +1

    Thank you for you very human and uplifting message. You are absolutely lovely!

  • @christiner4841
    @christiner4841 Před 3 lety +10

    Good Job hun on this video, we live in a day and age in which people can hide behind a computer screen and type away nasty comments.

  • @theeconcretecatwalk
    @theeconcretecatwalk Před 3 lety +2

    I really like the way in which you laid out all of the sides in the situation that occurred. I do agree, the emails were a lot, and like you said; what one means to express in an email sometimes does not translate into what is intended to the reader, to me they came across demanding- "ish" and very forward. However, no one deserves to be mistreated by a brand and/or on social media.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety

      I agree with your comment completely, I think we need to try to be understanding when watching these things 💕

  • @San-ui9cr
    @San-ui9cr Před 3 lety +8

    I love luxury handbags, (luxury items period) but I don't think I will ever understand why people go through all of the hoopla to spend their money with Hermes. Like why I am going to rack up spending on items I may not really want, kiss people behind, hope and pray that they pick me to spend my money with them?!? It's an average looking "it" purse at best.... I know I sound like a hater lol but I don't get it. I hope the young lady feels better and perhaps rethink her expectations, spending power etc.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +2

      That’s totally fair, I think there are a couple of bags I would like in certain colours but I’m not going to drive myself crazy over it 💕

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety

      That’s totally fair, there are a couple of bags I would like in certain colours but I’m not going to drive myself nuts over it

  • @SociallyStaciJ
    @SociallyStaciJ Před 3 lety +2

    First, great video and very eloquently stated while trying to give respect to each party. I appreciate you for that, because my response is not going to be that eloquent. Lol! I think Hermès was completely out of line for how they treated her. She lives on another continent, so things could be different, but for HR to contact this woman directly and accuse her of harassment because of some pushy emails is insane. And it honestly baffles me that some ppl think they weren’t out of line. I work in corporate retail and I’ve also worked in sales in luxury retail for years. The emails were a little much, but they came across as her wanting to make sure she was able to buy some things on her list. I absolutely did not take it as harassment. If Mel was given the SA’s work email to converse about product in the store, you can’t get mad because she’s asking about products in the store. It’s not Mel’s issue if the SA was overwhelmed over a long list. We’re in a pandemic. Trauma nurses are overwhelmed. They have someone’s life in their hands. This is a list about overpriced handbags. Ppl can’t expect others to know they are an issue if you never tell them. That’s my issue. Yes, Hermès has a right to stop selling to anyone they choose. And I’m not even mad at them cutting her off for re-selling bags and branded packaging. I get that totally. But why would you not have a conversation with her about it to nip it in the bud? That’s the civil and respectful thing to do. What happened to civility. So I’m 100% with Mel on this one simply because they never told her that they had an issue with her. You can’t fix a problem you don’t know exists. She’s not a mind reader.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +1

      I agree with you completely that this should have been dealt with by a conversation, would have been a lot more respectful 💕

  • @alliahmac
    @alliahmac Před 3 lety +11

    Bless your heart...this was so refreshing to watch. Women can be so vile and wicked with their tongues. I am not in a position to judge Mel, because, who am I? The disgust disposition of women ripping another human apart in the name of a glorified brand is just sad and heartbreaking that these people are raising children who will one day do the same to other people....Thanks for sharing

  • @MonsieurAshley
    @MonsieurAshley Před 3 lety

    So eloquently put, and a thoughtful reel of conversation which had structure and meaning. Well executed!

  • @annenorth8553
    @annenorth8553 Před 2 lety +3

    She sold her first bag, then apparently sells the packaging etc....they probably think she;s a re-seller - so that little List she keeps talking about is not a wish list or a wait list, pretty sure it sounds like she's been put on a blacklist. (or Santa's Naughty list LOL)

  • @pathos9864
    @pathos9864 Před 3 lety +2

    Very mature point! I wish Mel would have waited and reassessed her speech. The root of the issue is a bit deeper.

  • @stubbyflower9064
    @stubbyflower9064 Před 3 lety +3

    Super vid. I never give a list to my store…it is them who occasionally send me details of rare/ hard to get items and ask if I would like to purchase. We have a great 2 way relationship and never mind if I turn an item down.
    It’s respect on many counts…..nothing more.

  • @paulathornton4980
    @paulathornton4980 Před 3 lety +2

    I really enjoy Mels videos , she has a world of knowledge about Hermes , unfortunately reselling some of her Hermes items definitely didn’t help ( in regards to Hermes) but really at the end of the day in my opinion she is a very honest person, last year I got a ban from lv for buying one product to much and it really up set me I have to say but on the bright side I also got my first store birkin, how Mel is being treated is just absolutely disgusting by some comments, she has openly talked about suffering from depression after her first daughter and it’s just sad ☹️ that people can be so mean.

  • @TheBrianCummingsOff
    @TheBrianCummingsOff Před 3 lety +6

    If you think her youtube comments were bad u should have seen what they were saying on the purseforum and what some hermes fan pages/purse pages were saying. It was absolutely disgusting how they went after her. To me this just shows the divide within the luxury community, those who buy hermes and praise and glorify the brand and ridicule those who come across issues with the brand.
    How ever, it's just a bag... ppl need to chill tf out. I love hermes to but ughh.

    • @ameliarosescloset
      @ameliarosescloset  Před 3 lety +2

      I read some on the purse forum then stopped, I didn’t see the other sites but some were plain nasty 💕

  • @THECLOSETbyConnor
    @THECLOSETbyConnor Před 3 lety

    Well said 💙 I really appreciate your video and your perspective on this topic.
    Thanks for referencing my video also, as we’re clearly on the same page. You have a heart of gold x