On a day like today where all the youtube recs suck, I'm worn out between work and working out, and there's nothing to watch, getting a VGE notification is like being hugged by a pillow. This is like top 5 comfort channels on the platform.
The Commander Keen series, Scorched Earth, X-Com, Prince of Persia, Civilization, Rise of the Triad, Warcarft, Kings Quest, Day of the Tentacle, Leisure Suit Larry, Flashback, Sim City 2000, Wolfenstein, World Class Leaderboard Golf...so many great DOS memories.
I recently found out you can still buy Scorched Earth, just bought myself a copy as I've played countless hours of the shareware version as a kid. Also played a lot of Doom, ROTT, duke3d and Command & Conquer: Red Alert. Loved playing them with friends over modem on sundays. Back then, even local phone calls used to be super expensive in my country, so we took advantage of the flat rate on sundays, we could play for hours paying the same as we'd pay for a short voice call. 😂
I went from an Apple IIC to a 486 DX 66 to a Pentium 2 450 to a Pentium 4 something. Then I took a long detour into Mac and returned to PC maybe ten years ago (I always had a PC for gaming but I did all my film work on Mac)
@@VideoGameEsoterica I miss those days. It felt like your computer was a never ending well of creativity. I would draw and animate, jump to music and programming then game. Time was not an issue , I would stay on it all weekend
Very happy that your kitty is feeling better! DOS gaming is great! I highly recommend the eXoDOS project. It is an incredible DOS game preservation project. There is a light version that only downloads games that you want to play (I, of course, downloaded the whole thing. Gotta preserve!). I also love that it includes all the 'feelies' that came with most DOS games back in the day. Zork is a simple game, but it came with so many feelies. One of the reason I absolutely love DOS and retro PC gaming.
This is fantastic! I’d love a tutorial on how to package up games yourself. It may be out there, I’ll go look this evening. But if not that would be a cool vid. Glad Pepsiman is doing okay!
Have you tried Overload? I think it's a solid modern (well, relatively, it's from 2017) Descent-style game. Personally I quite liked it and it "scratched the itch" I had for this sort of games for years.
Rise of the Triad is a classic game. Ludicrous gibs! I think I probably mentioned this on the 3DO discord, but I played a VR version of the game at an amusement park back in the mid-90's. I was a fan of the game, so I instantly recognized it and thought it was so cool that someone modified it for a VR setup.
This is awesome! I grew up on windows 95 so ill be happy to have more of these games accessible to me without needing configuration. Glad to hear your kitty is on the mend. I hope you both have a nice day :)
Awesome. I've been wanting to play more DOS games but was installing them the really manual way which was painful. This looks way easier. Last I tried it seemed to be impossible to play the games at 240p on a CRT using direct video (I don't have the mister analog I/O board). A lot of these DOS games were 320x200 but linedoubled for VGA. Outputting the non-linedoubled video to a 15 kHz CRT would be great.
Something is wrong with your doom midi music at 9:32 you should be hearing guitars not percussion. Sounds like steel drums or timpani's are playing instead of the guitar.
I get to mess with my Mister like 1 day a week and by the time I get there I’ve seen so many of your videos that I have no idea what I want to mess with and I pretty much freeze up. This era is 10 year old me, I gotta get it going.
Didn't know about this, very cool and maybe I'll finally use the 486 core, lol. Always wanted to play the older DOS games on MiSTer, but haven't wanted to revisit my childhood PTSD for setting up old PCs. 😅
Your Doom music sample sounds completely wrong. I think it is because you are using MT32-pi hat and Roland MT-32 is not a General Midi sound card (it predates the standard by several years and uses it's own instruments sets and mappings) and Doom doesn't support MT-32 as far as I remember.
The only issue I can find with it is 'I wish there was a lot more'--which really isn't a problem with what's there. 🤣 I've almost worked my way up to that jump drive in privateer. 🚀 (that one did need the game's typical 'tricky, stick calibration' dance, though--which could probably have been eliminated)
Amazing collection to have, will be installing this on the 2nd SD card slot as I really nice/fast way to play the best DOS games, the MT32-Pi MiSTer add-on really shows how much better the MiSTer audio sound generation quality is (not sampled/sequenced sound which MiSTer 100% fine with as is) when it uses a companion CPU/Processor, the DE10 FPGA just works better with some extra processing clout when it comes to real-time synth sound generation, would be great if the MT32-Pi MiSTer could be used for arcade & consoles that also have powerful real-time synth sound, I know this is partly down to RAM latency and timings (lack of sub 40ns SRAM etc).
Sadly, I'm having issues with the video output for the core. Any game that doesn't run at 60hz (which is a lot), doesn't work on my TV for some reason. The video keeps cutting out and only occasionally kicks back in for a like a split second. Frustrating!
I'm honestly just confused why it's a problem with this core specifically, and not any of the other cores. I use an LG C3 OLED, and I run arcade cores that don't run at 60hz at their intended refresh rates (e.g., Item M72 at 55hz), I run PAL games on the console cores at 50hz, the Wonderswan core at 75hz, etc. All without issue. But this core just doesn't work!
This with a retrotink an an OLED would be amazing. My DOS machine back in the day could run doom OK, but I couldn't play games like tie fighter because I didn't have the right ram or sound hardware
This is awesome! Is it possible to add games that aren't included in this pack? One thing I really wanted to try and get working on the ao486 core for my daughters were some of those classic Magic School Bus games.... Maybe they can't run yet? But I know the first few of those work on DOS. Any suggestions?
@@andrewcamacho3364surprised wachky wheels wasn't in there, but one can add and i guess this is a living thing, and what IS there is pretty sweet. CnC was cool to play again, and saving works as well!
@@NLSagat I actually never had the chance to play a ton of DOS stuff back in the day. Most of my knowledge is, the King's Quest series (I hope VII gets added sometime, that's my favourite,) the Jazz Jackrabbit games, Jill of the Jungle... and then a bunch of the edutainment stuff from around that era, like the Magic School Bus, the Disney Interactive stuff... I remember a handful of the Schoolhouse Rock games being fun.. I get that most people are looking for the actual video games, but it'd be awesome to get some of that edutainment stuff running so that I can show my kids. I think they'd get a kick out of some of those classic titles.
@@andrewcamacho3364 I got a pc shortly after doom got released. Was fun as the sound gfx and cd tech was way beyond what i had with my amiga 500 and snes. This build focussed on just getting games working, but on a per game enviroment. I guess you can still set up what you want, but the AOcore is what you want for that scenario, basically a blank early/mid 90ies pc (but no voodoo support just to keep expectations in check) i def feel you should be able to get most of what you mention working, but it will involve a bit of manual work finding the stuff and setting it up.
Mechwarrior 2... I couldn't get this working and I got excited hoping this would solve it when I seen the title. Fingers crossed for core updates in the future
This is truly fantastic. I hope they are adding more games. There's some biggies left out like Might & Magic, D&D Gold and Silver box games, Bethesda's Terminator series, Freespace, etc I'd also love to finally play those shitty Hi-Tech Expressions Megaman games lol Edit - just saw they are definitely adding more. Stuff has been added since I installed yesterday afternoon. Hell yeah.
Oh cool I need to mess with this. I managed to obtain a real MT-32 and Soundcanvas and got them working with MiSTer. The PC version of Mortal Kombat had a really unique and cool sound with the MT-32. It was how we played it back in the day a few times.
This is kinda cool. Still wishing we'd have the ability to run DOS and early 3D games on Win 98 using modern hardware. I might just have to go down the route of building a Win 98 PC setup at some point.
Did you say near the end of your video, that the entire Amiga team have done a great job ? Isnt the video about 486 msdos games ? . Not nit picking just curious ? 👍😜
How does MIDI Doom play samples then? I thought MIDI devices had all their samples but in already, or could you somehow tell the device some sample data to play for you?
I guess I have 3 thoughts after this:- 1. How far fowards does the AO486 core go? I presume a 486 core should have enough power to run Windows 3.1, but can it be configured up to a Pentium/Win95 or P2MMX/Win98. What about other components like decoders (some PC games have better versions that require hardware like a ReelMagic or a DVD/Mpeg Decoder) or Voodoo & other 3d accelerator cards? Presumably they can run on FPGA but is there enough dye available to the DE10? Some arcade games in the 90s, like Hydro Thunder, ran on Voodoo cards so it could have more than one use. Is this more for something on later FPGAs? B. I have a collection of actual MIDI modules, is it possible to connect that to the MiSTer for this and cores like PC-88 & Sharp 68k instead? Don't get me wrong the MT32 is extremely cool and I'm glad it exists. 3. Will you cover the ScummVM core, I believe it doesn't use any of the FPGA but it capable of using the MiSTer's AV output and so forth. I think it runs totally on the Linux side. Does the MiSTer Linux hardware have enough power to run the SVGA ScummVM games like Blade Runner with simultaneous full screen FMV and 3D characters assets? Many thanks, and congratulations for reaching the end of my egregiously long comment nobody asked for
There has been some chatter at an attempt at Pentium / Voodoo experimentation but nothing firm at all. Yes you can connect real MIDI modules to MiSTer.
@@VideoGameEsoterica I think the ultimate end goal would be too super multiple components and configurations. Like certain games are best on 24bit rather than 32 bit cards, a tiny number of 97/98 games are better on Matrox and so on. I have some rare ish AGP cards I would be prepared to donate to the cause of they need to be like studied and what not
There are some salty little sausages in the comments of this one eh? Not rich beef sausages like the rest of us, that's for sure. Another great vid sir.
The original Doom does not have any way to configure it for more modern controls. You can set it to walk/backpedal with keyboard and turn with the mouse but you can’t take walk/backpedal off of the mouse. This means your mouse is always intruding on your walk/run speed unless you physically modify it to disable the vertical axis. I’m basically going for “mouselook” controls even though the game can’t look up and down. Is it possible to configure it this way on MiSTer?
@@VideoGameEsoterica Was hoping MiSTer’s input configuration had a way to disable the vertical axis and that maybe they had already configured games properly. The goal with this set is to sort of consolize classic PC games but, well, we’re still playing with a mouse. ;) I wouldn’t complain except that the advantage of playing with a mouse is lost when you can’t unbind walk/backpedal. Oh well!
@@VideoGameEsoterica it’s quite different from the original 2-D point click but it’s still pretty interesting game, but feel no shame I don’t have just a pile of shame I have a mountain. 🏔️
It’s def more streamlined and will probably get a lot more people playing the games if they didn’t grow up with dos / aren’t comfortable in a command line
Both have their place. If you are a “DOS Native” and know everything about it, love having a dedicated launcher with metadata etc, Flynn’s Top 300 setup is great. For people that just played a couple of DOS games at the time, or have never done it, our setup makes it easier to get started with a couple of games.
Is it possible to plug in one of those old DOS joysticks, they had what looked like large serial port connectors, and I think they would plug into your sound card of all places.
Can anyone test out earth worm jim 2 I tried to run it with an 8bitdo sn30 controller but I can't get it to register the controller letters in the game menu (not the mister menu it works fine on the mister menu but not the games menu). I played that top down racing game pixel told us about and it works no problem with the 8bitdo sn30. Hope i can get some help with this one
ill try this. Is there a way to put different folders instad. Because i want one exclusivly for windows 85, dos. I still have dos300 pack. is this better? is there M-Z?
What’s the best path to editing the rungame.bat? When I try to do it in the command line with the edit command I end up getting softlocked on a blue screen
I really wouldn't dare to speculate about that without knowing the resource usage of the current core. With wizards like Robert and Sergiy, you never know what may come next. 😅
Both have their place. If you are a “DOS Native” and know everything about it, love having a dedicated launcher with metadata etc, Flynn’s Top 300 setup is great. For people that just played a couple of DOS games at the time, or have never done it, our setup makes it easier to get started with a couple of games.
Both have their place. If you are a “DOS Native” and know everything about it, love having a dedicated launcher with metadata etc, Flynn’s Top 300 setup is great. For people that just played a couple of DOS games at the time, or have never done it, our setup makes it easier to get started with a couple of games.
I really wish you'd stop deleting my comments. This pack is pointless when 99% of the games run off the same baseline VHD / Dos configuration. Ao486 has tons of performance and compatibility issues as well. It needs serious work but it's been abandoned forever now.
It's really not pointless because if you only want 30 or so games from the DOS top 300 pack, you can download the titles you want individually at a much smaller file size than installing a 20GB download when you only want to play 400MB worth of games 🫵🏼🤡
Like a Hex Othello (Reverse) board game. Something I played on my uncle's PC vs computer and had a fun loop. Could we get a packing tutorial vid aka the Andy D method?
On a day like today where all the youtube recs suck, I'm worn out between work and working out, and there's nothing to watch, getting a VGE notification is like being hugged by a pillow. This is like top 5 comfort channels on the platform.
Aww thanks
Absolutely, it's the combo of immense gaming knowledge and super chill delivery
My brain is awash with gaming knowledge. But I lose the tv remote 5 times a week
@@VideoGameEsotericaI gave up, slapped a magnet to the back, and stuck it to the metal leg on the side of the table. I never forget now XD
I’ve put mine in the fridge crisper drawer before so I’m hopeless
Love the MS DOS content. Keep it coming!
I’ll probably run a second vid on this next month
The Commander Keen series, Scorched Earth, X-Com, Prince of Persia, Civilization, Rise of the Triad, Warcarft, Kings Quest, Day of the Tentacle, Leisure Suit Larry, Flashback, Sim City 2000, Wolfenstein, World Class Leaderboard Golf...so many great DOS memories.
Leisure Suit Larry is always a fun time
I recently found out you can still buy Scorched Earth, just bought myself a copy as I've played countless hours of the shareware version as a kid. Also played a lot of Doom, ROTT, duke3d and Command & Conquer: Red Alert. Loved playing them with friends over modem on sundays. Back then, even local phone calls used to be super expensive in my country, so we took advantage of the flat rate on sundays, we could play for hours paying the same as we'd pay for a short voice call. 😂
Ooooh man scorched earth 👍
ROTT was my jam back in the day
The 486 CPU ran my childhood. Doom, DukeNukem , WingCommader 2, Sim City 2000, Photoshop 2.0, 3D Studio 2.0 etc etc
I went from an Apple IIC to a 486 DX 66 to a Pentium 2 450 to a Pentium 4 something. Then I took a long detour into Mac and returned to PC maybe ten years ago (I always had a PC for gaming but I did all my film work on Mac)
@@VideoGameEsoterica I miss those days. It felt like your computer was a never ending well of creativity. I would draw and animate, jump to music and programming then game. Time was not an issue , I would stay on it all weekend
It was a fun time for PC gaming for sure
Very happy that your kitty is feeling better! DOS gaming is great! I highly recommend the eXoDOS project. It is an incredible DOS game preservation project. There is a light version that only downloads games that you want to play (I, of course, downloaded the whole thing. Gotta preserve!). I also love that it includes all the 'feelies' that came with most DOS games back in the day. Zork is a simple game, but it came with so many feelies. One of the reason I absolutely love DOS and retro PC gaming.
I miss the days of pack in items with games. Now we don’t get a manual and we’re lucky if the game even comes out physically
This is fantastic! I’d love a tutorial on how to package up games yourself. It may be out there, I’ll go look this evening. But if not that would be a cool vid.
Glad Pepsiman is doing okay!
Pepsiman is much better today. No clue how he got worms as an indoor cat.
@@VideoGameEsoterica
they are left over from when the cat was outdoors
it's a common bonus feature
My two favorite DOS games were DESCENT and DESCENT II couldn't get enough of it, but I also loved CASTLES and Heroes of Might and Magic II.
I loved Descent back in the day. Weirdly I don’t love it as much these days
And then changing to modern key and mouse settings makes it even better.
Very true
Have you tried Overload? I think it's a solid modern (well, relatively, it's from 2017) Descent-style game. Personally I quite liked it and it "scratched the itch" I had for this sort of games for years.
Decent 2 soundtrack such a banger
Rise of the Triad is a classic game. Ludicrous gibs! I think I probably mentioned this on the 3DO discord, but I played a VR version of the game at an amusement park back in the mid-90's. I was a fan of the game, so I instantly recognized it and thought it was so cool that someone modified it for a VR setup.
ROTT is my personal fav of that generation. Just a perfect game imo
This is awesome! I grew up on windows 95 so ill be happy to have more of these games accessible to me without needing configuration.
Glad to hear your kitty is on the mend. I hope you both have a nice day :)
He’s doing much better now. Thanks!
This is awesome! Cant wait to try this out!
A fun time is in store
Really very interesting, I'll take a look at it to this 0Mhz Dos Collection
It’s a fun time!
I never had MIDI when I was a kid, it's so awesome to play DOS games now and hearing how much difference there is.
Serious it’s a night and day diff
Sweet tutorial! I am going to have to get it set up.
Do it. So worth it
This is so incredible! Basically consolized DOS gaming ❤
Basically :)
Kind of what we all want in a way.
Exactly. And it’s so good
This is really helpful. I dont have the time to play around with DOS but really wanna try some games. THANKS!
That was kind of the goal of the 0MHZ collection. Like MegaAGS on the Amiga side. Cut out the setup
Awesome. I've been wanting to play more DOS games but was installing them the really manual way which was painful. This looks way easier.
Last I tried it seemed to be impossible to play the games at 240p on a CRT using direct video (I don't have the mister analog I/O board). A lot of these DOS games were 320x200 but linedoubled for VGA. Outputting the non-linedoubled video to a 15 kHz CRT would be great.
That’s just not something the core can do yet I don’t believe. Downscaling
does the hdmi output scale 240p?
hdmi sends the linedoubled image, so 480p (maybe technically 400p) on 320x200 dos games
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240p into a scaler would be sweet
It should be possible. Search the forums for the thread "ao486 Config for a Plain Old CRT TV"
Awesome! 💕 to your cat
He’s doing better. Big old dose of dewormer. We had no clue anything was going on until he threw up…a worm 😬
Oh man, played so much ROTT back in college...
It’s a classic. Probably my fav fps from that era. Not saying it’s the best. Just my personal favorite
I've got to try and find time to dive into this one!
Def find the time :)
Something is wrong with your doom midi music at 9:32 you should be hearing guitars not percussion. Sounds like steel drums or timpani's are playing instead of the guitar.
Probably an odd setup combo of instruments. You can make it do anything really
Got this setup and so stoked!
Glad you are enjoying it :)
I get to mess with my Mister like 1 day a week and by the time I get there I’ve seen so many of your videos that I have no idea what I want to mess with and I pretty much freeze up. This era is 10 year old me, I gotta get it going.
Haha the curse of less time and more interests
Didn't know about this, very cool and maybe I'll finally use the 486 core, lol. Always wanted to play the older DOS games on MiSTer, but haven't wanted to revisit my childhood PTSD for setting up old PCs. 😅
Haha this alleviates that ptsd
Wow, that 0mhz collection is pretty cool. Would be cool to have choice cuts collections for other systems.
It would be cool
Your Doom music sample sounds completely wrong. I think it is because you are using MT32-pi hat and Roland MT-32 is not a General Midi sound card (it predates the standard by several years and uses it's own instruments sets and mappings) and Doom doesn't support MT-32 as far as I remember.
It’s a mash up of “it worked”
Dos game I recommand to try is Conquest of the New World Deluxe edition! I spent thousands of hours on this one!
I’ll look it up
The only issue I can find with it is 'I wish there was a lot more'--which really isn't a problem with what's there. 🤣 I've almost worked my way up to that jump drive in privateer. 🚀
(that one did need the game's typical 'tricky, stick calibration' dance, though--which could probably have been eliminated)
More will come :)
Amazing collection to have, will be installing this on the 2nd SD card slot as I really nice/fast way to play the best DOS games, the MT32-Pi MiSTer add-on really shows how much better the MiSTer audio sound generation quality is (not sampled/sequenced sound which MiSTer 100% fine with as is) when it uses a companion CPU/Processor, the DE10 FPGA just works better with some extra processing clout when it comes to real-time synth sound generation, would be great if the MT32-Pi MiSTer could be used for arcade & consoles that also have powerful real-time synth sound, I know this is partly down to RAM latency and timings (lack of sub 40ns SRAM etc).
MT-32 is basically essential if you play PC stuff on MiSTer
I need to get in on this. I got the Amiga stuff up and running not long ago finally, so this shouldn't be too much trouble!
This is super easy. Get on it!
Sadly, I'm having issues with the video output for the core. Any game that doesn't run at 60hz (which is a lot), doesn't work on my TV for some reason. The video keeps cutting out and only occasionally kicks back in for a like a split second. Frustrating!
Welcome to the weird world of DOS refresh rates. You could play around with scaler settings in INI I bet
I'm honestly just confused why it's a problem with this core specifically, and not any of the other cores. I use an LG C3 OLED, and I run arcade cores that don't run at 60hz at their intended refresh rates (e.g., Item M72 at 55hz), I run PAL games on the console cores at 50hz, the Wonderswan core at 75hz, etc. All without issue. But this core just doesn't work!
Core doesn’t like Wisconsin maybe 🤷🏻♂️
This with a retrotink an an OLED would be amazing.
My DOS machine back in the day could run doom OK, but I couldn't play games like tie fighter because I didn't have the right ram or sound hardware
I need to try ao486 on my Tink
TIE Fighter is so good. Are there any flight yokes that work with Mister?
You know I’m honestly not sure. I’ll have to ask around
Are you able to run these on a crt? Mine gives me a blue screen, with audio. I assume is some resolution issue
It’s def a resolution issue. It won’t run on 240p displays and is hard to get to sync on 480p
I don't know how hard it is to emulate MIDI correctly but people seems to be happy with this version
This is awesome!
Is it possible to add games that aren't included in this pack?
One thing I really wanted to try and get working on the ao486 core for my daughters were some of those classic Magic School Bus games.... Maybe they can't run yet? But I know the first few of those work on DOS.
Any suggestions?
Yes. You can pack your own titles. I’ll show it in a video soon
@@VideoGameEsoterica That would be awesome!
@@andrewcamacho3364surprised wachky wheels wasn't in there, but one can add and i guess this is a living thing, and what IS there is pretty sweet. CnC was cool to play again, and saving works as well!
@@NLSagat I actually never had the chance to play a ton of DOS stuff back in the day. Most of my knowledge is, the King's Quest series (I hope VII gets added sometime, that's my favourite,) the Jazz Jackrabbit games, Jill of the Jungle... and then a bunch of the edutainment stuff from around that era, like the Magic School Bus, the Disney Interactive stuff... I remember a handful of the Schoolhouse Rock games being fun.. I get that most people are looking for the actual video games, but it'd be awesome to get some of that edutainment stuff running so that I can show my kids. I think they'd get a kick out of some of those classic titles.
@@andrewcamacho3364 I got a pc shortly after doom got released. Was fun as the sound gfx and cd tech was way beyond what i had with my amiga 500 and snes. This build focussed on just getting games working, but on a per game enviroment. I guess you can still set up what you want, but the AOcore is what you want for that scenario, basically a blank early/mid 90ies pc (but no voodoo support just to keep expectations in check) i def feel you should be able to get most of what you mention working, but it will involve a bit of manual work finding the stuff and setting it up.
Mechwarrior 2... I couldn't get this working and I got excited hoping this would solve it when I seen the title. Fingers crossed for core updates in the future
Yes the core could use a revamp in spots
It would be great to know how to add your own games to the collection
I’ll show that soonish
@@VideoGameEsoterica that would be awesome. I’d be happy to share the games with the community
Ok, now for the full exodos collection…
Haha a COUPLE extra games
@@VideoGameEsoterica a couple thousand
Like I said just a few 😂
This is truly fantastic. I hope they are adding more games. There's some biggies left out like Might & Magic, D&D Gold and Silver box games, Bethesda's Terminator series, Freespace, etc
I'd also love to finally play those shitty Hi-Tech Expressions Megaman games lol
Edit - just saw they are definitely adding more. Stuff has been added since I installed yesterday afternoon. Hell yeah.
It’s always getting added to :)
How did you get Doom and Heretic to run so fast on MiSTer? They run worse than a 486SX-25 on my MiSTer.
Oh cool I need to mess with this. I managed to obtain a real MT-32 and Soundcanvas and got them working with MiSTer. The PC version of Mortal Kombat had a really unique and cool sound with the MT-32. It was how we played it back in the day a few times.
Oh nice I bet it’s fun to have the real MT-32 next to MiSTer
@VideoGameEsoterica Yeah that and it should be really easy to switch it with a Mini PC I'm setting up eXoDOS on.
True. Dual use
I really like the DOS point-and-click adventure games. :)
Same. That and FPS games were my fav genres in the 90s
And VGE I hope your cat gets better
He’s getting better. Bored though since we have to keep him in one room away from the dog. Cat might start climbing up the walls to get out
@@VideoGameEsoterica OK that’s great. I’m glad he seems like an awesome cat since you care about him
He’s a great cat. From the streets lol
Finally!!! Dos!!!!
Don’t forget uno! (Sorry I couldn’t help myself)
Thanks PCN you are a legend 🤙
He’s good people. It was all I could do to get this out. AndyDo was a huge help too
This is kinda cool. Still wishing we'd have the ability to run DOS and early 3D games on Win 98 using modern hardware. I might just have to go down the route of building a Win 98 PC setup at some point.
Having a Win 98 PC is still kind of essential for that generation
Did you say near the end of your video, that the entire Amiga team have done a great job ? Isnt the video about 486 msdos games ? . Not nit picking just curious ? 👍😜
It’s the same team that does the Amiga packs for the Amiga core. So I know them as “the Amiga team”
@@VideoGameEsoterica thanks , because idk. I want a mister but cost and clones coming.
I’ll have the QMTech review clone vid tomorrow am fyi
I would like to see Terminator games on the pack 🔫
Those were good ones
Checking this out now. Finally got a Pi A+ so I can swap out the 3B I was using for mt32.
Nice. Good upgrade
How does MIDI Doom play samples then? I thought MIDI devices had all their samples but in already, or could you somehow tell the device some sample data to play for you?
I guess I have 3 thoughts after this:-
1. How far fowards does the AO486 core go? I presume a 486 core should have enough power to run Windows 3.1, but can it be configured up to a Pentium/Win95 or P2MMX/Win98. What about other components like decoders (some PC games have better versions that require hardware like a ReelMagic or a DVD/Mpeg Decoder) or Voodoo & other 3d accelerator cards? Presumably they can run on FPGA but is there enough dye available to the DE10? Some arcade games in the 90s, like Hydro Thunder, ran on Voodoo cards so it could have more than one use. Is this more for something on later FPGAs?
B. I have a collection of actual MIDI modules, is it possible to connect that to the MiSTer for this and cores like PC-88 & Sharp 68k instead? Don't get me wrong the MT32 is extremely cool and I'm glad it exists.
3. Will you cover the ScummVM core, I believe it doesn't use any of the FPGA but it capable of using the MiSTer's AV output and so forth. I think it runs totally on the Linux side. Does the MiSTer Linux hardware have enough power to run the SVGA ScummVM games like Blade Runner with simultaneous full screen FMV and 3D characters assets?
Many thanks, and congratulations for reaching the end of my egregiously long comment nobody asked for
There has been some chatter at an attempt at Pentium / Voodoo experimentation but nothing firm at all. Yes you can connect real MIDI modules to MiSTer.
@@VideoGameEsoterica noice
@@VideoGameEsoterica I think the ultimate end goal would be too super multiple components and configurations. Like certain games are best on 24bit rather than 32 bit cards, a tiny number of 97/98 games are better on Matrox and so on. I have some rare ish AGP cards I would be prepared to donate to the cause of they need to be like studied and what not
There are some salty little sausages in the comments of this one eh? Not rich beef sausages like the rest of us, that's for sure. Another great vid sir.
Haha very sausage heavy comment
Ahhh, I love Harvester!
It’s an experience. I’ve never been able to tell if it’s GOOD but I do enjoy it
The original Doom does not have any way to configure it for more modern controls. You can set it to walk/backpedal with keyboard and turn with the mouse but you can’t take walk/backpedal off of the mouse. This means your mouse is always intruding on your walk/run speed unless you physically modify it to disable the vertical axis.
I’m basically going for “mouselook” controls even though the game can’t look up and down. Is it possible to configure it this way on MiSTer?
It’s still basically locked to what the game was built for. You’d want a newer source port of Doom for that i believe
@@VideoGameEsoterica Was hoping MiSTer’s input configuration had a way to disable the vertical axis and that maybe they had already configured games properly. The goal with this set is to sort of consolize classic PC games but, well, we’re still playing with a mouse. ;) I wouldn’t complain except that the advantage of playing with a mouse is lost when you can’t unbind walk/backpedal. Oh well!
Maybe there is. I’d have to ask around. So many random functions nested all over the place
I have most of these points and click games in my ScummVM setup about 70 GB combo of DOS, Amiga, ST, Win..
The 90s were point and click golden years
@@VideoGameEsoterica my favorite is still beneath a steel sky. I also enjoyed the new game beyond a steel sky.
I bought the new Steel Sky and it sits unopened in my shame pile
@@VideoGameEsoterica it’s quite different from the original 2-D point click but it’s still pretty interesting game, but feel no shame I don’t have just a pile of shame I have a mountain. 🏔️
Nice, I maintain a collection of about 300 games and the current menu method is a paaaaaain.
It gets the job done but it’s a bit unwieldy
When I play Heretic on my Mister FPGA, it stutters or rather there's "hiccups". How did you make yours run at "full speed"?
Just the config that came down with it I believe
@@VideoGameEsoterica So it can be improved if I tinker around in the config files that came with Heretic's zip file?
This is so much better than the top 300 Dos games pack.
It’s def more streamlined and will probably get a lot more people playing the games if they didn’t grow up with dos / aren’t comfortable in a command line
I did grow up tinkering with autoexe.bat and config.sys files but I would prefer not to have to these days.
Both have their place. If you are a “DOS Native” and know everything about it, love having a dedicated launcher with metadata etc, Flynn’s Top 300 setup is great. For people that just played a couple of DOS games at the time, or have never done it, our setup makes it easier to get started with a couple of games.
Yes this is great for people who weren’t into PC gaming in the DOS era
Is it possible to plug in one of those old DOS joysticks, they had what looked like large serial port connectors, and I think they would plug into your sound card of all places.
Game port is what it was called, no idea if you can use one on mister tho
is there going to be a sort of.. shared place where you can grab preconfigured games much like andy d's example there?
Possibly. It’s still so early we need to see how more games get added to the archive
I have an annoying issue where it boots IDE 0-1 by default instead of IDE 0-0. Does anyone know where I can change this?
I’m sorry if this is a stupid question it does this core support 15khz for a SD CRT? Also get better soon Pepsiman 🙏
It doesn’t play nice with 240p
Now that Core Run in analog mode? The First One I only played in the digital and didn't Works on a CRT monitor 31khz.
It doesn’t change anything about the output
I hope one day we get math co-processor for 486DX
You never know
im having issues getting The Incredible Machine to load. keeps complaining about cd drivers or something. Can anyone help?
also didnt work. got al the unzipped folders in there and it didnt make a "DOS Games"
Odd. Should work
no system shock? ;(
I stay with the retro pcs :)
That’s fair :)
Is this limited to SD card setups like the AmigaVision release? Or is it possible to load from a CIFS network share?
Should work fine over network shares. Just make sure your SD card games directory is empty.
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I wonder if this can be set up to run from Network?
Yes, it's possible I doing it in that way.
Cat pen is sick?! Did he need new ink?
He needs dewormer
Can anyone test out earth worm jim 2 I tried to run it with an 8bitdo sn30 controller but I can't get it to register the controller letters in the game menu (not the mister menu it works fine on the mister menu but not the games menu).
I played that top down racing game pixel told us about and it works no problem with the 8bitdo sn30. Hope i can get some help with this one
I’ll look into it
@@VideoGameEsotericagreat bud thanks
Two videos in one day to kind of you, also what DOS game is played at 9:00
Indiana Jones 4 The Fate of Atlantis
Yep!
Indy
Glad the furry friend is feeling better.
Thanks! He’s glad too haha
This doesn't seem to work with the RT4K and direct video.
It may not. I need to test it
a486 still isnt great for a 15khz crt setup but this helps
Yeah it’s really never meant for 240p
ill try this.
Is there a way to put different folders instad.
Because i want one exclusivly for windows 85, dos.
I still have dos300 pack. is this better?
is there M-Z?
Not sure on folders. M-Z is being updated
Dude original DOOM or with a launcher is on every one of my systems capable of running it.
As it should be :)
I came looking for the mt32pi reference. I need some help with setup. :)
I have a video on it somewhere in the playlist
@@VideoGameEsotericaGot it, thank you.
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I Play this Yesterday.
I dont can usw the MT32 monkey Island and Others.
Is there a way to use IT .
Great video
You have to exit (f5) and edit the rungame.bat file to launch with the r command. Once you edit that, relaunch.
What AndyDo said
What’s the best path to editing the rungame.bat?
When I try to do it in the command line with the edit command I end up getting softlocked on a blue screen
Thx IT Work great ❤@@AndyDo
When will the Pentium and 3DFX cores be available? I want to know if it is able to run Quake or not.
Maybe one day. There have been rumblings. Nothing concrete
Really unlikely with a DE-10. I'd eat my shorts if such a thing is ever possible.
Never say impossible :)
I really wouldn't dare to speculate about that without knowing the resource usage of the current core. With wizards like Robert and Sergiy, you never know what may come next. 😅
Maybe I have some insider info lol
How does this compare to Flynnsbit AO486 top 300 pack?
This has everything pre configured and ready to launch per game
Both have their place. If you are a “DOS Native” and know everything about it, love having a dedicated launcher with metadata etc, Flynn’s Top 300 setup is great. For people that just played a couple of DOS games at the time, or have never done it, our setup makes it easier to get started with a couple of games.
Thank you. That is helpful! I grew up on DOS so I know my way around a command prompt, but I’m definitely going to give this build a try!
I've been using ExoDOS for this, how does this solution compare?
I’m not ultra familiar with exodos
Both have their place. If you are a “DOS Native” and know everything about it, love having a dedicated launcher with metadata etc, Flynn’s Top 300 setup is great. For people that just played a couple of DOS games at the time, or have never done it, our setup makes it easier to get started with a couple of games.
Games M-Z don't show up for my on the archive. Anyone know where they went?
They are currently updating the archive
@@VideoGameEsoterica Thank you.
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what rez does rott and other point/click run at
Usually line doubled to VGA
How does Estatica 1&2 play on this core?
I personally am not sure
ao486? what? where? oh not official ok.
Ao486 has been official for years 😂
not on the official mister github.@@KokoTheGorilla69
Clickbait. Core isn't updated, this is just a packaging method and it's pointless when most DOS games use the same baseline configuration.
Try listening past the first minute.
Lol the title nor the video does not state the core has been updated
They never do
tbf, the title does say "core gets a huge upgrade." which does make it sound like the core was updated.
All the videos with core updates use the word update 🤷🏻♂️ 0MHZ is an upgrade to what the old system of playing games was. So it makes sense to me
I really wish you'd stop deleting my comments. This pack is pointless when 99% of the games run off the same baseline VHD / Dos configuration. Ao486 has tons of performance and compatibility issues as well. It needs serious work but it's been abandoned forever now.
I am not deleting your comments. YT is. This comment is here undeleted. You can find it pointless. Doesn’t mean it is
It's really not pointless because if you only want 30 or so games from the DOS top 300 pack, you can download the titles you want individually at a much smaller file size than installing a 20GB download when you only want to play 400MB worth of games 🫵🏼🤡
Very much so
Archon Ultra, Star Control 1 & 2 🤌 Not a big game but would love a Hexxagon launcher.
I can’t say that I remember Hexxagon
Like a Hex Othello (Reverse) board game. Something I played on my uncle's PC vs computer and had a fun loop. Could we get a packing tutorial vid aka the Andy D method?
I may do a second vid with how to set new games up soon :) was a crunch job this week
It only shows 83 files, archive.GORG sucks! For me it cuts at Leisure Suit Larry, it says 170 Games.
They are updating it as we speak
@@VideoGameEsotericaI noticed now. LOL. Hungry like a wolf, if you know what I mean LOL