Sall Grover on the legal battle which could threaten women's rights globally | SpectatorTV
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- Julie Bindel speaks to Sall Grover, CEO of the women only app Giggle which has been taken to federal court in Australia. Roxy Tickle - a biological male who identifies as a woman - alleges that they were discriminated against after being removed from the app. It is a landmark legal case which could have implications for the sanctity of female only spaces and for women's rights around the world.
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On behalf of the USA, I apologize. I feel like we started this insanity. This is all so bizarre. I feel like I fell asleep and woke up in a Franz Kafka novel. The world has lost their collective minds.
Thank you so much. The rest of the world. Now, let's stand up and do something about it.
So it was you guys that are responsible for contaminating my country as well. Who can I sue? 😂🇬🇧
Sorry butt I feel the same way. America's dedication to it's own opinions, the relentless fear and will to avoid being wrong and the tribalism you exhibit to protect your beliefs was the perfect breeding ground for ideologies that rely on gaslighting and narcissism
@@jeremyroberts39 This gained traction in the mid 2010s so you can start with Obama and sue just about every democrat since then. They're the one's that support this madness.
Don't apologize. Wokeness is a "co-opted" movement. Governments and large corporations stir this up and agitate. They use it to control, divide people, and distract us from what the government and corporations are doing that mean much, much more than gender wokeness. We never hear about true human rights violations and environmental degradation. People have been duped into believing that this shit matters. But it is just a ficking shit-show circus.
BTW I am from America and now living in the UK. The rest of the world is stirring this stuff up and using it as a tool of divisiveness and social control. It is being used to undermine human rights globally. Not just women, but all human rights. Don't take responsibility for it. And though at a point, I might have agreed in seeing the US as a villain, I see it as a global corporate movement. Don't forget that people, including teens, in Saudi Arabia can be and have been executed for sending an offensive or critical text. Not an American invention.
Good men wouldn’t dream of invading women’s spaces.
Exactly. It’s very telling what type of man is suing for entry.
Men of strong character. Not the weak men of this insipid generation
Well... women opened the door to this saying that males and females are the same and gender is just a social construct. Let's be honest
And good women wouldn't dream of being feminists who promote far-left ideologies.
"Who loves not wine, women and song remains a fool his whole life long."
As a man, I hang my head in shame, the Tickles of the world do not need an app, but rather some serious help in dealing with themselves. I wish Sall Grover the very best of luck in her upcoming battle. May reason prevail!
But he won’t care about your feelings, because he claims he’s Not a Man.
This is to all of skiddle Tickles of the world get your own app where you can talk Tickles on your own and tickle each other in where ever your funny or humorous bone is and stop invading woman's only club because you are not woman simple as that coz there's so many of your gender around the world now go and talk to Caitlin Jenner coz it has connections for your type just saying
It appears quite clear that he has AGP which is a fetish, not a gender.
This is pure hatred of real women, putting this lovely woman and her family through this!!!!
As a man "who dosent wear a frock", I support her 100% and her cause. This madness should not have been given any court time whatsoever.
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We should also advocate for male only spaces too
They already exist. Locker rooms, saunas, those weird organizations or whatever like the Masons. Women initially fought for co-ed spaces when it had to do with the men having an advantage, like doing business dealings in a place where women weren’t allowed. When it comes to people wanting to socialize with their own sex, women don’t want to invade male spaces. But these pervert males want to go in women only spaces.
Thank you sir ❤
It's not just HER cause, this has wider implications than just her website. Wider implications than just Australia. If this case goes to tikkel then women across the GLOBE will be forced to suffer the consequences. This is TERRIFYING.
Ordinary Australian bloke here... supporting Sall all the way. She needs to win this for all our sakes.
she needs donations. itl cost 500.000 for the first case (250000 already garnered this way) but likely she will lose so it will go higher up. another 500.000
Will you also fight for men only spaces?
Get some self-respect. They've been invading men's spaces for decades. Let them feel the "equality" for a change.
@@jeffreypierce1440 You know these people not going to do that.
Did you donate?
Its absolute madness to think I as a man can just say Im a women and start taking people to court if they dont agree with me. The world really is crazy!
Empowered madmen need remedial steps taken by madder men, if they cannot be stopped.
I’m a father of 3 teenage daughters. I’m proud of, and grateful to, the way you’re fighting for their future 💚
She’s an absolute force of nature. Clear and unapologetic. Love her!
But can she win against the ideology? debatable in the current climate whereby trans ideology is top dog.
Good luck Sall, you'll need it.
@@arther4tune443 why are you not standing alongside her/us? Stop leaving the battles that (you say) affect you for other people to fight
@@MultiLlewis I'm with Sall 100% no doubt about it, but the trans side are cunning & very strong, so here's hoping Sall wins before it gets to the High Court. God's speed Sall ❤
it's been a long battle , the poor woman. i am in disbelief and I've been following this from the start...
@@MultiLlewis "why are you not standing alongside her"
Because feminists like these two *created* the entire woke culture that they are now complaining about. They forced it on the rest of society and did vast, probably irreparable damage to our civilisation - and are now complaining about being savaged by the monster THEY created, nurtured, and loosed on the world.
Why should I stand with people who utterly despise me and everything I believe in?
As a woman, mom to 7 daughters…this is absolute insanity… heartbreaking to watch all rights of women dissolved by a few misogynistic men…we’ve got to stand up and fight!!!
Teach your daughters to fight too!
I too am from a long line of women 1 of 8 girls only had daughters and granddaughters recently grandsons .. I feel my children and grandchildren are being stolen from as they rightfully are natural born women .. no confusion there are men women and they have their “trans” sorry they can’t have transport that’s a vessel of travel so best they get mental help for their confusion
@@lks6248we also need men to fight this too seen as it’s coming from men!!
Bless your 7 daughters ❤ May they live to grow up in a world where women's rights are protected for good
7 daughters wow. Hope you have enough bathrooms.
Surely the fact he calls himself Roxy Tickle should be a clue to anyone regarding this person's motivations... I mean, that sounds like a stage name from a very specific corner of the entertainment industry
Right, good freaking point. Wants to "blend in" as a woman except... doesn't actually at all. Wants the attention - just like this case.
As Helen Joyce has said, these AGPs will not hear the word no from women...
So a 6'4" man with a full beard could demand to come into women's spaces just by claiming that on that day, he felt like a woman? This is ludicrous. Who is paying Tickle's legal expenses?
Legal aid.
Apparently a law firm, Barry Nilsson
The Australian taxpayer is paying his expenses! I’m an Australian; our Australian Human Rights Commission is a government body that is supporting Tickle in this legal case. Tickle also received a $50,000 grant from the government to support his expenses. This is all on the Aussie taxpayer.
@@alexandragrace8164 😲😡
I feel like a good woman, now that I think of it.
All women should support Sall, she is fighting for ALL Womens Rights!!! She is awsome.
By that logic so were the O.G Nazi's, the Berlin institute of sexology was the first ransacked by them in 1934 and books burned, trans librarian the first fatality, gay and trans were amongst the first sent to the death camps. She is fighting for legal and physical erasure of a marginalized minority please stop being dishonest.
All men who care about women should support her cause.
All men should also! I do!
If this nonsense continues then it will get to the stage where women will just stop doing things because of it. They will stop competing in sports and they will avoid using public changing rooms and toilets. As a biological woman I will feel like I can’t venture too far from home so I don’t have to put myself at risk of having to use a public toilet. I will be advising my daughter to do the same because I want her to be safe. I feel that there are certain characters who are laughing in the face of women and goading us.
And it’s not just affecting women/girls. Children of both sexes are being indoctrinated with this nonsense, sometimes from the age of four. Being taught that they can simply choose their gender and will have the added option of changing biological sex, with the help of surgery and/or heavy-duty meds. I dread to think what the future holds for the next generation.
I believe that this is the end game of trans ideology. The removal of women from public life, as women are prohibited from using public space in Afghanistan etc
The fact that predatory men will take advantage if they can doesn't seem to occur to them.
They're all predators (not men, but the ones calling themselves women).
I am a heterosexual woman who obviously dates men, but in the past I have experienced bad experiences with men. So I would prefer to keep women only spaces where possible..
likewise many men would like Male only spaces for the same reason
But most men do have male only spaces in men's toilets, mens sports etc etc
@@davidrentonThe physical power imbalance is the point, not having a disappointing dinner date.
Women are afraid of men in their spaces where we need privacy and safety.
You aren't worried that a woman will rape or kill you if you are alone in a men's bathroom with her.
We women are.
Welcome to The Garrick Club - men only, thanks
As a heterosexual man, I am distressed by your comment. I assure you that all men are not like some of those you have met. I'd love to prove it, but I've been happily married for 30 years!! XXX
Support this woman and her cause financially, I’ve done so because it’s imperative she win. She’s fighting for all of us with a shred of sanity left.
How?
@@kbaker9804 at abut 34 mins in they talk about how you can help!
@@kbaker9804because it will set president. Any non woman will think it can get away with treating women with utter contempt all the while pretending they are one.
@@Verdent777 Hopefully it will also set precedent : )
@@lesferguson7020 yeah auto correct!! I didn’t proof read. Glad you were smart enough to read through the lines!!!
This is madness!! You are fighting a good fight worth winning, for all women.
You both are a brave bold inspiration. 🙏💯
as a man in SA, thanks for not backing down. stay strong.
I demand female only spaces and will not apologize for it. Approval neither required nor desired. Great interview Thankyou both for speaking out!
I support you but you need to march against trans invading it.
Maybe should've thought about that when y'all demanded that legislators made discrimination on the basis of sex-type illegal.
Did you give a damn when male only spaces were taken from men, or did you celebrate it like most women? Women voting for nonesense is what led to this perversion of men wanting to be in women's changing rooms. The world has gone to hell in a hand basket since we were given the vote. We have abused the privilege.
We had men only spaces - women DEMANDED it was sexist, it’s now illegal,
Women invaded men’s spaces on the basis of discrimination, dunno why you now demand women only spaces? I thought that was sexist?
@@davidadiwego4608you say “y’all” like sex-based protection is something we all fought against. What a wonderful generalization you have there.
Any male who deliberately tries to gain access to female-only spaces is just creepy and sinister. I really wish more women in Australia will start speaking up. Unfortunately there seems to be a rather deafening silence on this issue here, and because of that, many others aren't even aware of the scale of the problem.
So sad that there are no brave journalists in Australia to broadcast what is going on. They are cowards shame on them
The gay community are not behind this issue in Australia, is my feeling, when they are its on the down low. They do not want to be attacked. people support it behind closed doors. Opinions of young progressive people adjacent to the Queer (ie non gay/lesbian but the feelling a bit spicy crew's) are drowning out real lesbian and gay voices. I don't know if the older gay/lesbian community can be bothered to fight. They are out of the scene and they like it that way.
Any male, what about transgender women or are you just fixated on one size fits all? Sounds mega selfish of you, just saying.
Problem is the high costs of any legal action being taken against you. Stay off the radar and they won't target you YET.
It works like this "triangle-song" in times of oppression (assigning a colour to every "crime" imaginable and putting the offenders away in concentration camps with a downward pointing triangle on their clothing to indicate WHY there were imprisoned). The singer never bothers, not belonging to any of the targeted groups. Until getting into the focus too and realizing that nobody was left to alley with 😮
HUMAN Rights should be the first thing on the agenda: the right to associate with the people YOU choose. Like marrying - only one partner (NOT a hate-crime NOT dating random other people).
The righteous activists claim "being intolerant against the intolerant" puts them on moral high-ground... doing the things you claim to fight only makes you a hypocrite. Look at what the people actually DO, before you are judging them: being violent, preaching violence, or applauding violence should all be red flags.
Having a different oppinion or sticking to certain boundaries are issues protected by the idea of free speech. In the heat of the moment some words in formulating your opinion might sound a bit off - anyone is free to question THAT, but never tell anybody to become violent, against people with a different opinion.
Calling for violence IS a hate-crime, blocking people from discouse a questionable and immature move to silence free speech. There ARE laws against certain lies and misinformation: apply the the correct channels to enforce them (don't call the lynch- mob to do as they please).
"Gender" ideology is just a magnet for the WORST men, lured by the special priveleges it grants (eg access to female spaces, where ACTUAL women/girls are most vulnerable), and the protection that "LGBTQ" status gives them...
Which is why, statistically, the men who self-ID as "transwomen" are MORE likely to commit sex crimes than the overall male average; Overall, males are more than 50x more likely to commit a sex crime than a female... But males who self-ID as "transwomen" are almost 4x more likely to commit a sex crime than the male average- So that's almost TWO HUNDRED TIMES more likely, than an real, evidence-based woman...
So the evidence-based stats say that women and girls would objectively be safer, allowing any man who DOESN'T call himself "a transwoman" into their bathrooms and changerooms... That's not my opinion; It's the logical conclusion of the cold, hard data...
I often hear the RITA PANIHI show on sky news in Australia talking about trans issues. She’s completely on your side. I don’t know how that show is viewed in your opinion? But it’s a positive platform for you to get the message out. Keep up the good work. Patrick in Ireland 🇮🇪 here…#respecting biological women 🌹
Women have the right to women's spaces regardless if they have been treated badly or not by men. Men too have the right to men's spaces. What's wrong with the world. It's gone absolutely crazy. Aren't there more important issues to deal with?
the men who want acess to women only spaces are the reason that spaces were created in the first place. Good men respect womens boundries 🙏
Do women respect men's boundaries ?.
@@user-ge4pr7lg4bwomen who don’t respect men’s boundaries should be called out and ostracized the same way if it was the other way around.
@@kikilu79 women have been doing it for years, there are no mens only spaces. No mens only gyms, no boy scouts, to name a few. As a man I feel divided on this, unfortunately women set the precedent
WOW ,, sexism at it's finest
@@kevinf6365There are men’s toilets, correctional facilities, institutions, sports teams, Masonic groups, and so many more. What on earth are you on about?
When I talked about my views on transsexuals at my local pride group, I was told I needed to meet with the group leaders and a couple of ftm transsexuals for re-education. I was one of the oldest people in the group. I came out in 1978, and I needed re-education. I walked away.
🙋♂ Well done! They need to be de-programed. 👍
I'm guessing you are conservative in your views.
@@35406 This has nothing to do with your political leanings, this has to do with the redefinition of the word "woman" to include natal males and what that means for the human race and society as a whole.
Indeed, through a couple of close family who are gay men I have seen how a percentage of bullying trans "women" want to also cancel them!! They target young boys who are gay to convince them to go through all the hormone and surgery torture to become trans. This is abhorrent
"Re-education" reeks of gulags and forced labor.
It’s bigger than destroying just women’s rights…..it’s totally dismantling sanity !
Most real Men are 100% with women on this issue, we are also against being told to lie to ourselves to satisfy the delusions of some People. Why should I worry about hurting someone's feelings over my Feelings !!
Man here, agree and support 100%, but I believe 90% of men would agree with and support your thoughts and ambitions. Good luck and best wishes always.
99.99 percent at least.
I believe it is likely 99%
Agree, it would be a minimum of 99% of men agree and support you Sall. Also, I don’t think these transgenders are ‘anti-women’, rather they are delusional in this perverted idea that “I think I am a woman, there I am”…
I used to think the same, but Internet comments let me know how wrong I was.
It's good to know that there are a few good men left, thankyou.
@sonnykeith8338 - yes, thank you for your support. I am constantly surprised and delighted by the immense support given by men - unfortunately, as in almost any issue, it's the highly vocal and often litigious minority that get all of the air space and dominate the narrative. They then come to represent the group they are a member of. I am a feminist but see young women scared to call themselves feminists for this very reason, yet it seems like a no brainer to me that, as a woman, you would want equality. The same goes for trans people: most just want a quiet life where most people don't even notice they are trans.
I live in Australia and have linked this to a Federal member in the government. One Nation party. Hopefully they will get as pissed off as I am and bring it up in parliament and put the government on the spot. This is absolutely disgusting.
I’ve contacted my local federal rep too
Totally. It's simply a 21st century form of invasive procedures coached in a political agenda. If you have a penis (XY chromosomes) stay out, pure & simply.
The formerly known Liberal democratic party will definitely stop this woke bullshit.
Logically she should win but this reality we live in at the moment is so f*ed up I despair. It's insane.
One thing that Sall didn’t mention is that The Tickle was permitted by the court to file 166 days (or thereabouts) late. I’m guessing that Sall would not have been extended the same courtesy. It gets me wondering about ideological capture…
Biological sex is not sexism! Gender is!
This British man wishes you the very best of luck with all of your endevours!
Do you think us British would cave to this nonsense? Scotland are, I absolutely will not, personally, but all the political parties manifestos mention promoting LGBT rights and I don't want to vote for any of them! NHS have JUST banned hormone treatment for gender confused teens, and I want it to stay that way 😭
Thank you sir 🙂
Brilliant interview. Sally you are amazing you truly are, women have lot to thank you for. And the comment about the lack of coverage in the Australian media is spot on; I've heard nothing on any media space about this
Sall Grover is one of those people who have a gift for saying something different in each of the many interviews she does. Supporting her completely and very grateful that she’s one of the phenomenal women arguing for sanity and women’s rights. Julie Bindel is a great, thoughtful, intelligent interviewer bringing out the issues too.
'Gender ideology is a men's rights movement'. That sums up all this craziness perfectly!
I'm old enough to remember that for many years women demanded entry into men only spaces - men's clubs, etc in the quest for 'equality' This set an unhealthy strident tone. I never thought this was a good idea. Men need their own spaces as do women. Equality of rights does not mean trampling on differences. Women are different from men, yet confused equality with uniformity. Women should have stayed out of men's places and protected their own, instead of straying into the murky waters of social engineering. Unfortunately the chickens are coming home to roost. You can't have it both ways. Ps I'm a woman.
There is much more to the craziness sweeping across the west than the gender nonsense.
@@weallmakechoices7456Man here, it's not a man's rights movement. I have no desire to entre women's space's. So they are not fighting on my behalf. I wonder however if this woman would fight for my right to open a mens only social club. Sometimes men just like to get together and chew the fat with other men.
@@weallmakechoices7456 Amen,
@@weallmakechoices7456 i agree men should have their own spaces, but think carefully about this. The two situations are not comparable.
Women were not seeking admission to places where men were vulnerable - where they were naked, to their changing rooms, to their hospital wards, to their hostels, to prisons etc. Much (not all I admit) were to places that were the sources of power and where decisions were being made, often quietly and behind closed doors, by one half of the population but that affected 100% of the population. People don't talk about 'smoke-filled room' for nothing. Exclusion was a secondary way of disenfranchising women, even if that was not the original intention. If women had complied with what you suggest, we would still not have the vote because the House of Commons was the biggest male-only club of all.
Men would like male only spaces.
So totally admire this WOMAN ..wish so much I could help her. Unfortunately being a pensioner I am financially unable to. Its scary to think if this court case is lost, for the first time in human history there is no such thing as a woman, woman will have been cancelled.
The last part really highlights the absolute absurdity of this case; If this was a man, who identified as a man, trying to gain access to the app then there would be no case to be had. However, because this man identifies as a woman, the sanctity of women's rights laws in Australia are now under threat more than ever. Absolutely ludicrous.
Not just in Australia, sadly. The ridiculous ‘Queer Theory’ indoctrination, which originated in the USA, has spread to/been embraced by developed countries, worldwide.
And "gender" is neither observable or falsifiable/ provable. So this is all on someone's word, not facts. How on earth can this go to court, where evidence is meant to count for something? Is I say I am Napolean, am I?
Support this woman.
Donate to her Give Send Go.
Why? She's a radical feminist - she *created* and imposed the woke ideology that she's now complaining about.
No I support her with thoughts and prayers.
Donated. Keep fighting Sall, we're behind you.
Sall is a legend. More power to her.
Sall Grover isn’t the pushover Tickle thought she was
I’ve got a horrible feeling that he’s going to withdraw the claim on the first day of the hearing.
He’ll happily put Sall through this nightmarish ordeal, because it’s not costing him a cent.
He even got a $50k grant from the government.
I couldn’t loathe him more.
He would probably have to go the full thing to get the grant.
@@clovermark39 Oh, right. I didn’t know that.
Thank you. 👍🏻
Unbelievable, I didn't realise that. 😮
Absolutely not! He absolutely will take this thru all the way! There’s no limit to how far a man will take things when they think they’re right.
I think the powers that b, will encourage Tickle to go to Court. They want a legal ruling to ram home the agenda. It needs to be stopped. Also, a $50k grant from the government, that's unconscionable.
So many times I hear”I can’t believe we are even having conversation “
I say it myself frequently.This is a very good marker of how absolutely ridiculous this whole situation has become, women are no longer allowed to be safe - this is totally unacceptable.
Attempting to write vague ideas, feelings and emotions into law is a recipe for disaster and is a sad reflection of the low caliber of minds currently in government and the courts.
They legally change what a woman is with vast majority of woman not paying attention.
Not while I have breath in my body. I'm a (heterosexual) woman. Lesbian or straight WE ARE WOMEN
😂🤡💩
@@George-vf7ss hi George. What dress are you wearing tonight? 🤩
We were paying attention, Julia Gillard just didnt give a shit about us, she was on a power trip, bowing to the minority and telling women to be quiet and put up with it and no other government since, has had the balls to reinstate womens rights, to protect them from delusional men hell bent on erasing women.
The vast majority of women are not informed about it because most of the media is captured.
Whos paying for this mans case against this Women? That would answer a lot.
Australian legal aid.
that figures. All this badness is being encouraged by governments all over the world
I think its actually the humans rights commission?
The society of magical unicorn breeders
yeah I am wondering who is backing this movement !!
You go for it Sall.!! I have a granddaughter and I would be horrified if she has to put up with this ridiculous nonsense in her gym changing room. Do it for our girls as well as us ladies
Hopefully Sal wins the case. She should be our next Australian of the Year for services to Women.
We hardly have any money, we missed our rent for the first time ever, but I still donated £5...and I'm paying my rent in 3 days as I'll have been paid
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That's worth more than a million dollars from a rich person.
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Sall summed all this up perfectly with her sentence "good men dont go into women only spaces", thats why women are afraid straight off when they see a man in these places. We know that they are not there to use the loo, or shower.
'trans' women get aroused by being in women's spaces. It's male domination that turns them on
Sexual assault and domestic violence are the worst things that can happen to women. These men who say they are women are belittling and insulting these traumas that women are at risk of facing because we are women.
I'm fine with female-only spaces but a lot of feminists are opposed to male-only spaces.
Never heard of this case in Australia, the media here run interference by constantly discussing nonsense and trivia.
Every country does. The USA does, in Canada you cant talk about their MAID euthanasia program which is 1984 in all its horrors... Every country controls its media
Save women's space, save children!
Monty Python's Life of Brian turning out to be pure prescience, who'd have thought it?
Absolutely spot on ! Behind you all the way! Go for a referendum so we can vote all this madness away. Like the Irish have just done! NO NO NO!
It is the most fundamental of human rights to be able to commune with whoever you wish and not commune with those you don’t. Why does the government in a supposed free society think it has any business to interfere with this basic choice ?!
A fuaamental human right ....until NOW, apparently.
It wasn't so fundamental for the gents, though, was it? Nope, that was "sexist". And now perverted men have gone full circle. Acknowledge the whole error.
Government: Because fuck your feelings and your rights. You gave us all the power so what can you do about it? Nothing you subject number 3271231.
The government thinks it gets to stay silent because it has already set up all the mechanisms to allow this and it can blame any previous government if the media ever start reporting it.
Probably not wrong either.
So glad you got to speak to the epic Julie Bindal, Sall. I've watched all your interviews since you came over, and I think this was my favourite. I'm so grateful for what you are doing.
Are we living in a parallel Universe? I'm just speechless! Why have our politicians legislated this madness!
This madness has to stop. Women need to stand together and vote together to reclaim their collective rights.
We stand with women and girls ♥️♥️♥️
We hope you win this Sall. Doing a great job.
You go girl! This Canadian woman supports you.
It's called personal safety on sooooo many levels. And our spaces are always being violated by men on some level or another. Same old historical issue only it's presenting differently.
And thank you ladies for your efforts & love ❤️
Two fantastic, strong adult human females. Love you both ❤️
Amazing interview. Thank you, Julie Blindel for raising awareness of this tremendously important case.
The Australian media are ignoring or refusing coverage.
Aust MSM or any mainstream politician wont touch this issue.
🙋♂ They know it's bs but they are gutless wonders only concerned for their own skins.
The current generations working in the media have destroyed journalism.
Ladies, my hat's off. What a insane situation, it's just unbelievable. 👍
A very courageous Australian woman.
I love this Aussie goddess. 🇦🇺
Brilliant interview, Julie! Endless gratitude to Sall for doing this for all women, everywhere. Thank you!
She’s also standing up for common sense.
I agree that women (real women) should be allowed their own space. That being said, men should be allowed the same rights.
All too often, women violate men's spaces; but that's ok. But it's not ok for Tammy men who identify as women, to be allowed in female spaces 🤔
I'm a straight male who would defend your rights, if you actually gave a damn about my rights.
Also... Promoting lesbian dating to young girls, doesn't sound like a safe space; sounds predatory
Man here. I am 100% behind what Sall is fighting for. I completely agree that women (more so than men) need and have a right to women's-only spaces and I am out there standing up for that all over social media. We all need to keep making noise about this. It's an injustice that needs to *stop.*
🇦🇺 🇬🇧 Support - this is such a hugely important case. Every $5 or $10 etc counts. I’m on an Australian pension and I have foregone the cost of a meal, twice, in order to donate $10. Easy to do and every little bit helps. All the best to Sall a strong woman
Women should have their own spaces just like men should be allowed their own spaces as well.
Men have A L W A Y S had their own spaces
@@violettownmicroenterprises1528 There are no men only gyms like Fernwood, museum in Tasmania that has a women only section, Scouts had to start accepting girls but not the Girl guides, Boys schools here in Sydney being pressured or forced to go coed but no girls schools getting the same treatment. What men only spaces can you list?
@@violettownmicroenterprises1528we most certainly do not. 60 years ago feminists demanded access to every men only space, and they got it. And now you demand that which you stole from us. No.
@@rolypokyonly in this crazy day and age. For most of history our spaces were separate for good reason.
Wait, so men's spaces are just within the last little bit being turned into not just for men spaces, means men's spaces haven't always been a thing?? It means women shouldn't be allowed women only spaces, because men don't want to fight for their own spaces? In case you don't realize this, men are far stronger than women physically and can very easily not allow women into men only spaces. Women literally can't stop men from doing anything without a lot of other women or weapons. Men should start standing up for themselves, instead of just bitching and saying "everything is women's fault". Take some accountability for leading society to this point.
Could you imagine the outrage if there was "man only" social network 😂😂😂😂
Rooting for you Sall! Thank you for taking on this crazy, unnecessary burden. I’m sorry this has been thrust upon you. ❤
What a strong woman. Thank you
You have to win this ... much love ❤
Best of luck for tomorrow, Sall. I wish the case was being live streamed. Thank you for standing up for female rights to female only spaces. Thank you for speaking up and advocating for females. There are so many of us whispering what you are shouting, we whisper because our jobs and reputations aren’t safe if we speak up to say we don’t feel safe.
I hope everyone realises that almost all men, of every nationality, religion, race and culture. Support women in this.
We are pandering to at most 2% of the population. Taking women's rights back 80 years because of 2% of the population
Many of the comments on this thread suggest otherwise, unfortunately but thanks for your support.
@@juliacheetham2734 I see your point. So I did a deep dive,
I've looked at 901 replies (at that point CZcams would not let me scroll any further for some reason)
705 supporting her. 175 were none specific (usually someone trying to be funny and not committing to either side of the argument) 21 in support of men in women's areas.
I'm heartened by that. But 21 is 21 too many. so I take your point.
I can say that those 21 are near the top because they get the most comments on them - so the CZcams algorithm keeps pushing them back up as they are getting the most engagement.
The long comment threads on them are people arguing with the OP of the trans supporting post - telling the OP that they are wrong
A quick look at just the first few dozen replies does not reveal the true levels of support.
Again though. I'm shocked that anyone can support such an unfair and clearly manipulative transgression into women's spaces.
We will win this one on the long term. I'm sure of it.
Good luck:)
The 2% is actually too generous.
@@PaulRoneClarke Again, thanks for being one of the good guys. X
@@juliacheetham2734 The men and women who don't support this are a bit more common than 2% but they are loud enough to have a lot of people scared to various extents. It has got to the point where a lot of people just go with their political tribe without thinking.
What is even more beyond clown world crazy is that a TINY minority of people have , in a very short time, been THIS successful in reordering society in their image and likeness. Good luck Sall!
They have been at it in the shadows for much longer than it has been a generally visible issue
Thank the craven media and cowardly governments in the west for that.
bingo... question is... who facilliated their power and rise ??
That's how you know that it's a top down movement, not a grass roots one.
But why...
...transhumanism.
Great interview with Julie Bindel and Sall Grover. I enjoyed hearing Sall's story as a tale of resistance.
Due to American audiences blurring the line between sex & gender, due to their puritanical discomfort with the word sex, as Sall Grover and Julie Bindel begin discussing at 24:15, and others claiming that sex is non binary, when I do my presentations, I've taken to using the terms Genetic Gender (GG) and Gender Identity (GI). I explain that Genetic Genders are biological facts (XY & XX) while Gender Identities are based on feelings, which are highly subjective. While you can feel like GI Joe, GI Jane or GI whatever, your feelings do not change your chromosomes. The fact that this is up for debate is ridiculous. Good luck to you on your legal battle.
Go Sall!
Watching the numbers click upward as I listen.
Hope this goes viral!
You need to share the video to everyone you know
I've never understood why trans rights is even included in the LGBT movement - since one is about sexuality and the other about identity. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Exactly, it's like the queers for Palestine lot. One cancels out the other
They actually ARE mutually exclusive. We cannot coexist as one big happy "community" when they're erasing our language and taking away our gay/lesbian spaces, both online and irl. But they attached themselves to us because they knew they couldn't just come out publicly with their ideology and demands, they needed a Trojan horse. They used the words inclusive, community and diversity as a 3 legged stool to beat us into submission with, and took control of our organizations, language and spaces. For example, GLAAD has, in their latest media style guide, said people shouldn't use "homosexual" anymore because "it's out of date and offensive". They only want language that has no definition. They push umbrella terms that can mean whatever they want it to. And they're trying to turn words that do have specific definitions into umbrella terms. Our needs and goals are completely opposed. Especially when they call us bigots and transphobes for being same SEX attracted, not "same gender". They're against straight people being solely opposite sex attracted as well, but they have to conquer us first and they know it. But hetero hairy men in dresses who demand we call them "lesbians", who coerce young lesbians into sex, are not going to win this.
This is one reason why the LGB Alliance (UK) was formed. LGB without the T.
LGB “T” …
@@kevoreilly6557 Because of that 'T' I joined the LGB alliance. And I won't be voting for any political party that promotes and puts the 'T' befoe WOMAN and MAN.
This whole thing that is being done to women is horrific. I am an American woman and we are facing so much coming toward us it's terrifying just as you in the UK and Australia are. I am very blessed that my husband and my son would never and will never be supportive of removing the rights and protections afforded two women that women fought so hard for.
"I'm not backing down" love it.
Kia ora from a kiwi feminist, am so glad you are doing this, kia kaha, stand strong ❤❤❤
Question for you Miss Kiwi Feminist what would Feminists and the Feminist movement do if a group of men tried to set up any form or club just for men...???
@johnthedespicabledutchman7406 you mean like the masons?
If a woman, by virtue of wearing trousers and having short hair, said she identified as a man and demanded to join the masons, I don't think she'd get very far. Except women don't want to invade men's spaces.
Perhaps 30 years ago feminists did want access to the facilities enjoyed by men and men only - such as golf clubs. Now that woman commonly have equal access to golf clubs, they don't want to force their way onto men only days, just as men don't want to force their way onto woman only days. It was never about being angry at being excluded, it WAS about having no way to play golf.
Most people of both sexes enjoy spending time with their own sex. There's nothing wrong with this
@@AmanitaWoodrose Nope, I refuse to have anything to do with a 'cult',...I am talking about Men's only gyms, men's only clubs...etc...etc...
Another kiwi feminist here and I 💯 support male only groups. Don’t confuse the issues here the main one being that in days gone by women used to be excluded from most of public life which is why women had a problem with it. @@johnthedespicabledutchman7406
Thank you, Julie! 🎉
Go Sall!! I totally agree with you.
You will win. More support and funds are coming.
This woman is awesome
We love you Sall!!!! You are amazingly intelligent and creative, thank you so much for doing all this and going through it with so much strength and resilience 💪💪💪
As a father of 3 (both suns and daughter) I stand behind both of you 100%. Equality is respecting equally both sexes. It is not trying to make them the same.
They should be called the Selective Human Rights Commision, because they don't seem to mind stomping on some people's human rights if it suits their ideology.
I am not giggling! This is appalling! I gave up on Canada for this reason. Enjoying being a woman here in Mexico 🇲🇽 and I am going to join the fight for women’s rights from here 💚💚💚
I cannot believe the media is not talking, writing about this in Australia. I’m emailing them all tomorrow. Let’s see if 2GB will discuss this.