Memory Lane Level 9 (Hard) Season 13 - Horrible Level Design Ep. 10

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  • čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
  • I try to complete and explain why the ninth level of Season 13's hard mode Memory Lane is horribly designed.
    Floral Federation server: / discord
    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Intro
    0:25 - First look
    1:17 - Second attempt
    2:47 - Third attempt
    7:56 - Could it be?
    13:37 - Final Thoughts
    FAQ
    - How can I play this game?
    Tutorial: • [NO LONGER WORKS] How ...
    - Why is the sound quality so bad?
    That's how the game is, there's nothing I can do about other than replace the music.
  • Hry

Komentáře • 188

  • @taghreedali1948
    @taghreedali1948 Před 9 měsíci +404

    I’m convinced that the PvZC team is just fans of the game that don’t know game design works

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast Před 9 měsíci +81

      Funny that the PvZ equivalent of SMM “Little Timmy” levels are made by the devs unironically.

    • @BunnyJolf
      @BunnyJolf Před 9 měsíci +24

      So like mod creators

    • @miimiiandco
      @miimiiandco Před 9 měsíci +9

      I honestly think that statement might have some truth to it!

    • @UlyssesK402
      @UlyssesK402 Před 9 měsíci +13

      You'd convince me Earth is flat before you disprove this statement beyond a shadow of the doubt.
      (Edit: To clarify, I'm strongly inclined to agree with the original statement.)

    • @Sandu7231
      @Sandu7231 Před 9 měsíci +7

      ​@@Coromeskmakes sense because is a CHINESE VERSIÓN of pvz 2 with his exclusive content for the country.😅

  • @jonong3836
    @jonong3836 Před 9 měsíci +74

    This is why it’s called Memory Lane.
    The levels are so torturous it will literally carve itself into your memory.

  • @Techno_baller_67
    @Techno_baller_67 Před 9 měsíci +218

    Please never stop making videos of this series, it's some of the best modern pvz content out there and i love it

    • @taghreedali1948
      @taghreedali1948 Před 9 měsíci +15

      Most likely because it’s the ONLY good modern PvZ content (*ahem* Zomvoid)

    • @Techno_baller_67
      @Techno_baller_67 Před 9 měsíci +18

      @@taghreedali1948 yeah I agree, ZomVoid is just one of those clickbait pvz channels that are only made to trick kids and use them for money which I just find sad yet messed up

    • @taghreedali1948
      @taghreedali1948 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@Techno_baller_67 true

    • @woo.yeah.
      @woo.yeah. Před 9 měsíci +7

      ​@@taghreedali1948Creeps20, SylviaYSI, KoalaOM, RCCH

    • @jossuecabrera8611
      @jossuecabrera8611 Před 9 měsíci +6

      ​​@@woo.yeah.creeps20 is one of my favorite alongside flag zombie. There's also ducky tube zombie which makes pretty good pvz content

  • @UlyssesK402
    @UlyssesK402 Před 9 měsíci +65

    "These ones don't spawn gargs."
    My thought process was "Oh good."
    "Wait are these tents going to be worse someho-"

    • @hinotoritheobliterator6556
      @hinotoritheobliterator6556 Před 9 měsíci +10

      Cue hyper speed Jack-in-the-Boxes

    • @life_is_a_myth
      @life_is_a_myth Před 9 měsíci +6

      ​@@hinotoritheobliterator6556It wouldn't be that bad if they were at least Half Health like Zombie Nibble Zombie Quick in PvZ1 or like Shrinking Violet's Zombies.

    • @UlyssesK402
      @UlyssesK402 Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@life_is_a_myth They should probably also just be Level 1.
      Besides, it ain't 'xactly fair that *they* get to be higher level, while *you're* still forced to use Level 1 plants. Actually makes me wonder if these levels were somehow tested with Level 5s.

    • @life_is_a_myth
      @life_is_a_myth Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@UlyssesK402 Oh right. That too.😂

    • @Pihsrosnec
      @Pihsrosnec Před 9 měsíci +2

      they're so fast holy shit, a jack-in-the-box zombie reaching the house without exploding is also super cursed lol

  • @bbboi9127
    @bbboi9127 Před 9 měsíci +60

    I feel like the main problem with all these levels are the objectives. You have really specific ones like the kill zombies with melon pult while you’re facing a level that’s already hard to survive on its own. Plus there’s a timer so better no waste to much time!

    • @UlyssesK402
      @UlyssesK402 Před 9 měsíci +8

      And the fabric of reality apparently becomes less stable as the timer ticks down. Wormholes relocate your plants, portals spawn more zombies, and a black hole relocates and possibly even kills your plants.
      ...do we really need that?

  • @otienat9974
    @otienat9974 Před 9 měsíci +23

    8:10 Here is the little fun fact: Jack-in-the-box Zombie when first-released has glitch that if you hypnotize him he will crash the game when he encounter non-hypnotized zombie.

  • @heckincat1406
    @heckincat1406 Před 9 měsíci +48

    Hey Flag Zombie, I just wanted to say that I truly appreciate your content, like every other one of your subscribers. You earned them all. PVZ2 stands pretty near my heart as a 2006 kid, I remember watching people like Zackscott play the game and listening to the old UB and demonstration minigame music gleefully. Nowadays, it's much more stale, but your content has sort of reignited the spark of which started to become snuffed out with the content being released for the game. I'm really grateful for your content.

  • @Rito20
    @Rito20 Před 9 měsíci +69

    I've got this sneaking suspicion that memory lane might not be very good

    • @carljohnson7582
      @carljohnson7582 Před 9 měsíci +10

      6 of the 10 "horrible level design" videos are from memory lane levels

    • @UlyssesK402
      @UlyssesK402 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Gee, may I ask what gives you such a *ridiculous* idea?
      [giggles]

    • @-rlmn
      @-rlmn Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@carljohnson7582the first is a piñata party that has the same day as my birthday

  • @randomprotag9329
    @randomprotag9329 Před 9 měsíci +25

    PVZ2C has a real talent for making two tent spawning at beginning levels anti game design in different ways. they should just stop with spawning tents beginning of level.

  • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
    @TwilightChomperEnthusiast Před 9 měsíci +19

    Wow, I was just watching one of your other Horrible Level Design videos when I was notified of this. The more, the better!
    EDIT: Even better, it was the one featuring the tent gargs. The similarities keep adding up!

  • @GCalebB
    @GCalebB Před 9 měsíci +10

    lets admire this dude for playing levels poorly designed jusy for our enjoyment

  • @smg5962
    @smg5962 Před 9 měsíci +17

    Flag zombie is bouta make an entire season for BWB at this point _💀_

  • @user-Pies163
    @user-Pies163 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Level 9 memory lane will give you the memories of feeling pain for each time we experience and TRAUMA!!!

  • @nibyafternight1983
    @nibyafternight1983 Před 9 měsíci

    Honestly one of the main reasons I still watch your videos is for the music selection! I excited about what track would play next in every video!

  • @somemadnessfan4763
    @somemadnessfan4763 Před 9 měsíci +6

    it's funny how they brought back Jack in The Box Zombie, even though the game already has TWO counterparts to him (Exploding Zombie and Furnace Zombie) but ig nostalgia over making sense amirite?

    • @angvunguyen3662
      @angvunguyen3662 Před 9 měsíci +2

      What is even more funny is that the new jack in the box doesn't have the "Huh" sound when about to explode, while exploding zombie has it

  • @Weirdo_89
    @Weirdo_89 Před 9 měsíci +11

    Wow, it's remarkable how talkweb wants to make a horrible level design

  • @calmmoon266
    @calmmoon266 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Amazing Content as always

  • @Saifullah_4112
    @Saifullah_4112 Před 9 měsíci +3

    *_Memory lane, Makes unforgettable traumatic memories!_*

  • @buffete3753
    @buffete3753 Před 9 měsíci +11

    Jack in the box zombie is in the china version ? Damn this make me even more envious of this game , but as Always , thanks for showing off those Amazing level disign with no flaws whatsoever !

  • @Finocchibolliti
    @Finocchibolliti Před 9 měsíci +17

    In this season there is also a level that spams Gargantuas (i believe it's the third) and another one where you have to kill zombies with boom balloon which were really awful and would make for some cool episodes

  • @InsertFunnyThingHere
    @InsertFunnyThingHere Před 9 měsíci +8

    Ah memory lane hard, only the bestest of game design allowed in... And gargantuars, a lot of em

  • @lamenwatch1877
    @lamenwatch1877 Před 9 měsíci +9

    8:28
    The sync between the Cherry Bomb and the music here is impeccable.

  • @chomper1014
    @chomper1014 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Excellent video my dude.👌😎

  • @memerboi7128
    @memerboi7128 Před 9 měsíci +12

    Zombie ain’t nimble but they quick

  • @tree1594
    @tree1594 Před 9 měsíci +3

    me when im forced to use melon pults against an endlessly respawning horde of tanky fast zombies

  • @Franklamerde
    @Franklamerde Před 9 měsíci

    You know its a good day when flag zombie uploads

  • @djm334wog
    @djm334wog Před 9 měsíci +2

    Can’t wait until Talkweb makes an objective that’s just “Do not do anything”

  • @mulitpower8827
    @mulitpower8827 Před 9 měsíci +7

    I’m literally calling that Jack in the Box Zombie will be one of the next zombies to be added in the versus mode
    If I actually end up being correct with this by the time the next update comes out, someone please let me know

  • @Moxilock
    @Moxilock Před 9 měsíci

    You know its gonna be a good episode when its a Memory Lane one

  • @someonerandom7398
    @someonerandom7398 Před 9 měsíci

    unrelated but i love your choice of music, im a sonic fan so it was nice to see some music from sonic games

  • @chengxingdynasty
    @chengxingdynasty Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great video!

  • @life_is_a_myth
    @life_is_a_myth Před 9 měsíci

    14:24 That is the most passive-aggressive "compliment" I ever seen.😂

  • @Atlasraliff
    @Atlasraliff Před 9 měsíci

    I wasn't expecting that mini jack in the box zombie at the beginning lmao

  • @angvunguyen3662
    @angvunguyen3662 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Lmao, when I saw the "memory lane", I guessed it is the level with small jack in the box tent, and yes I was right, hate this level so much

  • @TartagliaThe_11th_McDsEmployee

    I was about to sleep until i saw flag zombie posted another video about terrible level designs

  • @mephistosimp
    @mephistosimp Před 9 měsíci +1

    9:28 the disrespect for Twin Sunflower...

  • @MartinYAYs
    @MartinYAYs Před 9 měsíci

    The Club Penguin songs fit so well lol

  • @tombraiserzombie2581
    @tombraiserzombie2581 Před 9 měsíci +3

    It’s called Memory Lane cause they want to remember all of the trauma

  • @nathanielhiponia7580
    @nathanielhiponia7580 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I kinda notice that the jack in the box in pv2c doesn't make a noise compare to the pvz1 counterpart

  • @Justcommentinhere
    @Justcommentinhere Před 9 měsíci +1

    BABE WAKE UP!!!

  • @tmes69
    @tmes69 Před 9 měsíci

    Lessgo welcome !!

  • @thexwhats2989
    @thexwhats2989 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Flag zombie is the rare pvz youtuber who doesn't have clickbait thumbnails and mindless content

  • @KraylebStudios
    @KraylebStudios Před 9 měsíci

    New intro omg!!

  • @user-cm5mp8vb2f
    @user-cm5mp8vb2f Před 9 měsíci +1

    I have a problem : i try to download pvz2 chinese version but that doesn't work and an error message appear : the app isn't instaled

  • @MAXIMA
    @MAXIMA Před 9 měsíci +1

    Other plant if you don't have gumnut is Narcissus , she is really good for the final bucket head zombies, Narcissus removes the armor for all the zombies, ignoring the level of the zombies

  • @naufalsiganteng3997
    @naufalsiganteng3997 Před 9 měsíci

    my ptsd kicks in when the tents appeared

  • @plssubscribetomychannel86
    @plssubscribetomychannel86 Před 9 měsíci

    Hi there Flag Zombie, you should do an overanalyzing video about the artifacts anyway love ur vids!

  • @n0tinctrl
    @n0tinctrl Před 9 měsíci +4

    is anyone else somewhat creeped out by the new jack in the box zombie design or is that just me 🫠

  • @theonlyshinyumbreon
    @theonlyshinyumbreon Před 9 měsíci

    It looks like the invincible hypnotized jack in the box zombies might be (somehow?) caused by gumnut

  • @64Bullseye
    @64Bullseye Před 9 měsíci

    I KNEW this level was going to show up in this series. Explode-o-nuts are pretty decent as they can damage the tents and stall for the jack in the boxes. Paired with vase-pult the tents don’t last long. (But the melon-pult objective is flat out stupid tho)
    Besides this (and level 8) This was probably one of the easier hard mode seasons, as I managed to get the glory days, extreme challenge and crazy trip achievements from this one season.
    (Also magnet shrooms DO NOT work on Jack in the boxes anymore)

    • @hovinhhao5235
      @hovinhhao5235 Před 9 měsíci

      Well Jack-in-a-box Zombies r lvl 3 and 4 while Magnet-shroom is lvl 1, and u know what happens right?

    • @64Bullseye
      @64Bullseye Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@hovinhhao5235Yeah. I completely forgot that was a thing. However, knowing the devs, they probably made them immune to magnet. Is there a level in normal mode where jack in the boxes are level 1?

  • @oratualvideos
    @oratualvideos Před 9 měsíci +2

    They should hire you to make the levels

  • @Neon_Here
    @Neon_Here Před 9 měsíci +1

    5:14 "All the Fun of the Fair" yeah, sure it does

  • @dana.d.4627
    @dana.d.4627 Před 9 měsíci +11

    A lot of the terrible level designs are from Memory Lane. Guess the devs don't remember how to make good levels.

  • @hovinhhao5235
    @hovinhhao5235 Před 9 měsíci

    8:30 The game didn't registered the existence of that zombie when he had just come out of the tent, hence Jalapeno did nothing to him. This one is related to coding , as the object didn't appear despite having showing up animation.
    Edit: I realized that he talked about the one got stuck in Gumnut's gum. Then I have no clue.

  • @someguy3267
    @someguy3267 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I guess If there's one silver lining, the level with the Boom Balloon Flowers was actually a dope puzzle stage.
    I wonder If that was a level yoinked from the Creative Courtyard, and given objectives in here, because I'm pretty sure a requirement to be a Hard Memory Lane level is to be bullshit. Oh well, at least there was *a* good level.

  • @jacobg6299
    @jacobg6299 Před 9 měsíci +2

    1:16 all ready did

  • @edredommilitarliveseclipes5282

    Soo flag zombie how do you get these artifacts? Like this giant seed? I only have the catapult and the healing staff

  • @squidtilus0.400
    @squidtilus0.400 Před 9 měsíci

    Good job.

  • @minusterry5711
    @minusterry5711 Před měsícem

    From Memory Lane to Nightmare Road.

  • @lustformoney5294
    @lustformoney5294 Před 9 měsíci

    Flag, Can you make a video of how family modification works? I don't know how that function works to reduce the cost to the plants :)

  • @angelinasoriano5694
    @angelinasoriano5694 Před 9 měsíci

    What happen to you box zombie hypno? Ha ha ha ha ha! That’s so funny 9:09

  • @Jimmy_a_Vietnamese_dude
    @Jimmy_a_Vietnamese_dude Před 9 měsíci +3

    I want to ask you a question that this stage not allow you to bring high-level melonpult, right?

    • @flagzombie
      @flagzombie  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Memory Lane sets all of your plants to level 1.

    • @kityondzhou6863
      @kityondzhou6863 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@flagzombiei dont want to remeber memory lane😢

    • @jessicarodriguez1376
      @jessicarodriguez1376 Před 8 měsíci

      If its calles memory lane its because They want you to remember it

  • @AveragealienWhocosplays-gj2tg

    Me seeeing the jack in the boxes: oh cool they were added surely they are like their pvz1 counterparts
    Me seeing how fast they go through a primal wallnut: oh sweet jesus

  • @nicooko_pvp
    @nicooko_pvp Před 9 měsíci

    the music in the beginning was made in beepbox lol, there is no way i cant recognize those drums

  • @biscuitporkasmealchoice6741
    @biscuitporkasmealchoice6741 Před 9 měsíci

    I've always said that blover haters would not survive the winter, and now we've found the winter in question

  • @brinefilopolski33
    @brinefilopolski33 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Jack in a box

  • @yteggegg222
    @yteggegg222 Před 9 měsíci

    好看!

  • @goatrex7181
    @goatrex7181 Před 9 měsíci

    I have a question what would happen if A Walrus zombie and Ski Zombie encounter a Saucer Squash?

  • @BunnyJolf
    @BunnyJolf Před 9 měsíci +1

    I swear PvZ burnt the food intentionally cause they knew people would eat it

  • @IndeedNotYan
    @IndeedNotYan Před 9 měsíci

    Basically "Zombie Nimble Zombie Quick"

  • @baconandx1858
    @baconandx1858 Před 9 měsíci

    I hand’t played pvz 2 in ages but I knew they gave levels to plants, but I just hope the zombies in the U.S. version don’t have levels too because that’d just be another thing that goes against how pvz 1 balanced dangerous enemies

  • @GizemKapsonu
    @GizemKapsonu Před 9 měsíci

    What happen if we shrink "Small" zombie?

  • @FelipeGames-py4gr
    @FelipeGames-py4gr Před 9 měsíci

    Drinking Game: Take a shot for every episode of "Horrible Level Design" that is a Memory Lane level

  • @Death_is_Crimson
    @Death_is_Crimson Před 9 měsíci

    Is it necessary to pay money to get the new premiums??

  • @raulgp5410
    @raulgp5410 Před 9 měsíci

    Man wft with the pinata party on Reflourished?

  • @Sombraro7
    @Sombraro7 Před 9 měsíci

    I think the hypnotized Jack in the box dont take damage because of gumnut

  • @RGC_animation
    @RGC_animation Před 9 měsíci +1

    Not even 1 minute in the level and we can already see how bad the level design is xD

  • @rextanglr4056
    @rextanglr4056 Před 9 měsíci +1

    it's pvz2c's memory lane. i am not surprised in the slightest.

  • @giftedphotonbee5220
    @giftedphotonbee5220 Před 9 měsíci +1

    At this rate, just put all of hard memory lane’s levels on this series. Every single one on here looks like they didn’t test it AT ALL.

  • @thelightningbolt9
    @thelightningbolt9 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This is probably the most brainf**k level I have ever seen on your channel so far. And no, not even the one with tants spawning Gargs. I doubt that Turkey Pult could have been useful here because of the Melon-Pult objective.

    • @PRIOTRODON
      @PRIOTRODON Před 9 měsíci +1

      Agreed

    • @thelightningbolt9
      @thelightningbolt9 Před 9 měsíci

      @@PRIOTRODON heyyy, man, I did not expect to see you here. Hello :D
      How are you doing? Have you known about Flag's channel before?

    • @PRIOTRODON
      @PRIOTRODON Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@thelightningbolt9 I'm just a PvZ2 nerd stopping by!
      and yes I've been following Flag for a while, from the overanalyzing series 😃

    • @witchhazel415
      @witchhazel415 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Turkey-pult specializes in dealing with gargs (regardless of their level) as it can spawn another turkey by the time the previous one is destroyed, but high level regular zombies? I don't think that'll go well, especially when the said zombies are faster than usual.
      sup Lightbolt :p

    • @thelightningbolt9
      @thelightningbolt9 Před 9 měsíci

      @@witchhazel415 thanks for explaining that plant's mechanics, I knew nothing about it lol. Also, hi :)

  • @supremechaosbeing2696
    @supremechaosbeing2696 Před 3 měsíci

    I think if you used Tallnut you could have actually farmed bugs for melon kills. first time tallnut has been useful. I also think you might have been able to swap out gold bloom for celery stalker to destroy tents, or whatever PvZ2C has that's better than it

  • @linggacr17
    @linggacr17 Před 9 měsíci

    keep it up pvzc2!

  • @Jakewebmaster8
    @Jakewebmaster8 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Couldn't have you used Hurrikale instead of Blover since Hurrikale kills bug zombies in one lane and also pushes zombies back?

    • @flagzombie
      @flagzombie  Před 9 měsíci +5

      Hurrikale doesn't kill flying zombies in this version.

    • @ahmedzaveel1665
      @ahmedzaveel1665 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Only one lane, that's the issue

    • @Jakewebmaster8
      @Jakewebmaster8 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@flagzombie Wait really? Dang I thought they did

  • @Kiminorama
    @Kiminorama Před 9 měsíci

    Did he beat the level with hypno shroom only because of the bug??

  • @Eliza-hb1nc
    @Eliza-hb1nc Před 9 měsíci

    would winter melon count for the objective? doesn't matter, since you'd die before you get the 500 sun, but would it?

    • @flagzombie
      @flagzombie  Před 9 měsíci

      No it doesn't count and does nothing since tiny zombies are immune to slowing plants.

    • @Eliza-hb1nc
      @Eliza-hb1nc Před 9 měsíci

      @@flagzombie not surprised. while it is a melon, it is technically a different plant i guess

  • @shingkung3974
    @shingkung3974 Před 9 měsíci

    carnival night zone prototype enjoyer😭😭😭

  • @Shades423
    @Shades423 Před 9 měsíci

    also i think fairytale level 9 is insanely hard because of the insane garg rush at the end.

  • @manicflying1289
    @manicflying1289 Před 9 měsíci

    brutal mode in pvz2c?

  • @Ebina_on_roblox230
    @Ebina_on_roblox230 Před 9 měsíci

    Is refreshing comments working for anyone else, it is not working for me.

  • @MrMariosonicman
    @MrMariosonicman Před 9 měsíci

    At this point. It might as well be called "horrible memory lane hard design" this shows up so frequently.

  • @trinitroid7893
    @trinitroid7893 Před 9 měsíci

    Isn't the whole point of the little zombie gimmick is to make them fast yet fragile? Did they seriously forgot to divide their health?

  • @LanaIsUnderrated
    @LanaIsUnderrated Před 9 měsíci +1

    This level wouldnt even be that hard
    if all plants werent locked behind level 1
    a level 3-5 melon pult wouldve taken out those zombies much easier
    but NOPE, its fucking level 1, where its strength is compareable to trying to destroy a literal armored tank with a god damn slingshot

  • @toxic_shr00m
    @toxic_shr00m Před 9 měsíci

    Memory Lane really loves showing up here huh?

  • @grephi6416
    @grephi6416 Před 9 měsíci

    atleast its not the WHOLE REALM

  • @forcedexcess26
    @forcedexcess26 Před 9 měsíci +1

    How is something like this allowed in a video game?

  • @nguido72110
    @nguido72110 Před 9 měsíci

    Why does most of these horrible levels come from memory lane (hard)?

  • @nilpyc307
    @nilpyc307 Před 3 měsíci

    im convinced that chat gpt is better than making levels than the pvz2 team

  • @QuirkyMaster
    @QuirkyMaster Před 9 měsíci

    Magnet-shroom

    • @flagzombie
      @flagzombie  Před 9 měsíci

      Nope, doesn't work since they are too high level and Magnet is only level 1.

  • @wronger-wrongest
    @wronger-wrongest Před 9 měsíci

    Correct me if I am wrong, but this one looks kind of nitpicky. Zombies were plentiful and had high health so that you are forced to use instas, they were small and fast so that you are forced to use stalling, and there is melon kills objective so you are forced to use attackers - seems like balanced challenge to me. And it looked like there were several moments, when using plant food on melon instead of using insta plant would net many kills. Also, to the points of "you have to do something specific", "you have to use something specific", "it's too hard", - isn't that literally how challenging strategy game is supposed to be?

  • @thebucketheadgaming
    @thebucketheadgaming Před 9 měsíci

    These levels are so horrendous...