Memory Lane Level 11 (Hard) Season 11 - Horrible Level Design Ep. 7

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  • čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
  • I try to complete and explain why the eleventh level of Season 11's hard mode Memory Lane is horribly designed.
    Floral Federation server: / discord
    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Intro
    0:22 - First look
    1:49 - Second attempt
    7:31 - Third attempt
    13:05 - Final Thoughts
    FAQ
    - How can I play this game?
    Tutorial: • [NO LONGER WORKS] How ...
    - Why is the sound quality so bad?
    That's how the game is, there's nothing I can do about other than replace the music.
  • Hry

Komentáře • 222

  • @PeterKart4444
    @PeterKart4444 Před rokem +228

    i love memory lane.
    not playing the levels, but the stupidity of the level design.

  • @NanerBag
    @NanerBag Před rokem +192

    "The problem is that these arent normal tents"
    Oh come on, it cant be THAT bad. What? Are they gonna spawn gargs or somethin-

    • @pedromartins6810
      @pedromartins6810 Před rokem +29

      Famous last words

    • @kittizon3.
      @kittizon3. Před 11 měsíci +11

      same reaction from me too lol

    • @UlyssesK402
      @UlyssesK402 Před 11 měsíci +17

      I knew it was going to be bad and even I was shocked!

  • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
    @TwilightChomperEnthusiast Před rokem +327

    When it comes to Chinese level design, they always believe that Zombie + Objective spam = hard and fun level. Tbh this isn’t as BS as some of the other levels you’ve showcased, but this looks like something you’d see on like level 100 of an endless zone with all of the gargs. Great video!

    • @ezkuzemoi8084
      @ezkuzemoi8084 Před rokem +28

      Don't forget some PvZ 2 and 1 mods too, they rely on the player having insane min maxing skills and spam to always make a level hard.

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast Před rokem +60

      @@ezkuzemoi8084 The intent of brutal mode is to be obnoxiously difficult, so I’ll give it a pass, but for most of the PvZ2 mods you can’t excuse it. The ones I hate the most are the levels where there’s one solution, so it takes away the freedom of making a defence.

    • @Pancho326
      @Pancho326 Před rokem +26

      ​@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast*cof* *cof* Eclise *cof* *cof*

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast Před rokem +23

      @@Pancho326 Good riddance, Eclise.

    • @zeusdoesstuff
      @zeusdoesstuff Před rokem +3

      @@TwilightChomperEnthusiast immediatly the floral feds yoinked it and I think are rebalacning the entire game with perm from D.T(Mine Power) heres hoping third times the charm.

  • @LeoBezan
    @LeoBezan Před rokem +106

    I love how he always explains *why* the level is horrible at the end, just in case.

  • @user-Pies163
    @user-Pies163 Před rokem +172

    Jeez i feel bad for the people who had to do this challange

    • @miimiiandco
      @miimiiandco Před rokem +4

      I wonder how much easier it is with levelled plants.

    • @Coldysnapdragon
      @Coldysnapdragon Před rokem +6

      ​@@miimiiandcothat would make it p2w (but all are lv1 in this mode) wow i nearly played this level (i was at level 6 or 7 )

    • @CyberSteve777
      @CyberSteve777 Před rokem +28

      @@miimiiandco In memory lane, all plants are set to lvl 1, so it's kinda hard to say, but I think, it would be a lot easier

    • @Coldysnapdragon
      @Coldysnapdragon Před rokem

      ​@@CyberSteve777it would be p2w because the zombie levels would be on 4 and 5 probably

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 Před rokem +10

      Btw, I haven't realized, but this is a night level, meaning that you Sun storage is more limited than usual.
      Neat

  • @BabyDanielBD
    @BabyDanielBD Před rokem +9

    memory lane makes international big wave beach look like a tutorial in comparison

  • @nc7718
    @nc7718 Před rokem +81

    The bean gimmick looks super cool and fun. Everything else, not so much.

    • @iaminsideyourwalls2021
      @iaminsideyourwalls2021 Před rokem +29

      Kinda sucks we can't even dig the beans nor the plant from said beans

    • @_LunaticMoon
      @_LunaticMoon Před rokem +1

      To me they seem more of a nuisance, regardless of what plants could spawn out of them

    • @petrikhorr
      @petrikhorr Před 11 měsíci +2

      until it's an rng mechanic in a difficult level

    • @Flirtatious_Hypn0sis
      @Flirtatious_Hypn0sis Před měsícem

      Yeah like they should do that for a Saint Patrick's day event where thw entire lawn is filled with beans and you have to dig up plants you don't want, thus making it a fun RNG level

  • @UlyssesK402
    @UlyssesK402 Před 11 měsíci +25

    "These aren't normal tents."
    I was expecting the rabbit to be a vicious killing machine after that line, and I was STILL reduced to babbling and shouting "WHAT?" repeatedly when the gargs started walking out. My dad in another room came over to ask what was going on.

  • @saltysalt844
    @saltysalt844 Před rokem +15

    2:20 okay that's not what i expected it to be, i thought it would be good, i mean they give you free plant after your plant dies, apparently they just code it to spawn seed that can't be planted on everytime a plant is destroyed and that's it

  • @thehottestcabbage
    @thehottestcabbage Před rokem +25

    i saw the thumbnail and thought "did they seriously make a garg spam level with bronzes"
    NOTHING could have prepared me for garg-spawning tents

  • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast

    I’m pretty sure that some of these levels are fan made, taken from the level editor, so when thinking about it that way, it’s pretty sneaky what they did if that’s the case. That would mean that they added this editor as a way to get others to make the levels for them, and then slap on the objectives. I also think that these levels were barely (if at all) play tested, so we can get Little Timmy-esc levels like this one in the mix.

    • @flagzombie
      @flagzombie  Před rokem +56

      This one can't come from the editor since tents aren't a thing there.

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast Před rokem +20

      @@flagzombie Huh. As someone who doesn’t have the Chinese version of PvZ2, I don’t know what is or isn’t in the editor. But man I must be glad that those tents aren’t!

    • @flagzombie
      @flagzombie  Před rokem +44

      Yeah, there aren't even gold tiles for Imp Porters to spawn regular tents. It's limited in a lot of ways.

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast Před rokem +8

      @@flagzombie Good point.

    • @milkmonstrosity
      @milkmonstrosity Před rokem +5

      ​@flagzombie
      Although I agree that this one seems homemade since the Tents and Beans are the main focus, I disagree with saying that just because something isn't available in the editor rather means they didn't copy the level. Nothing stops them from just editing it to have that extra stuff thrown in, IIRC objectives, the timer, and stuff like Magic Fog are also unavailable there, but they can easily add it when altering the stolen level.

  • @user-ls8qt6mo2m
    @user-ls8qt6mo2m Před rokem +19

    Fair and balanced as always 💀

  • @Rainstar1234
    @Rainstar1234 Před rokem +39

    these memory lane levels definitely have the level design to ever exist in the history of pvz 2

  • @minestorian4035
    @minestorian4035 Před rokem +26

    That was cool, interesting and unexpecting. Thank you for your work! That was really entertaining!😊

  • @milkmonstrosity
    @milkmonstrosity Před rokem +26

    They heard you complain about the Evo Machine spawning Gargantuars being unfair, and decided you had to be punished.

  • @miimiiandco
    @miimiiandco Před rokem +33

    Garg tents sound kinda interesting, but they need way more build-up, and the beans making Instas worse is just cruel.

  • @NagKai_G
    @NagKai_G Před rokem +16

    This level was a great showcase of two things:
    1- garg spam and beans don't add up to good design.
    2- Kernel-pult is absolutely incredible at stalling gargs

    • @IH8Reflorished
      @IH8Reflorished Před 8 měsíci

      Turkey pult*

    • @NagKai_G
      @NagKai_G Před 8 měsíci

      @@IH8Reflorished thanks, I never realised I wrote kernel instead of turkey

  • @IcedTheLocalClown
    @IcedTheLocalClown Před rokem +8

    first wave garg spawner is certainly an interesting concept (especially with how comically easy garg is to deal in pvz2) but 2 is just pushing it and the fact it ramps up is just disgusting

  • @jacobg6299
    @jacobg6299 Před rokem +4

    I love this! Keep up the good work

  • @DCT-tt8ib
    @DCT-tt8ib Před 11 měsíci +4

    Honestly, with some readjusting, I could see this level being a pretty fun challenge. My changes would be to drop the sprout gimmick entirely, move the tents closer to the right side of the lawn, and don’t have the tents spawn Gargs until Flag 1 at the earliest (Which means this level would probably become a 4 flag level).

  • @noonelaughed6598
    @noonelaughed6598 Před rokem +19

    Right after you started the level, I was jokingly saying that it would spam gargs right at the beginning

  • @foiledagain1914
    @foiledagain1914 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Moral of the story: turkey pult can sometimes be absurdly useful.

  • @ShalalatYT
    @ShalalatYT Před rokem +1

    That really did look hard, u badly need the luck before playing this round. But when I saw spam gargs, knew turkeypult would be very handy in this level lol. Nice video again, always amazing and entertaining!!

  • @Vortexboi11
    @Vortexboi11 Před rokem +4

    I loce this series, keep it going!

  • @aidancode
    @aidancode Před rokem +7

    To be honest this is more a showcase of how big of a garg counter turkey is... this level doesnt even look like it would be that bad with some better communication, at least not nearly as bad as some of the other crap so far. I hate levels that require certain plants and this definitely fits.

  • @Sixitboy
    @Sixitboy Před 7 měsíci +1

    I laughed way to hard at the sunflower getting sent to the abyss by a tent lol

  • @Lowqualitycat
    @Lowqualitycat Před rokem +4

    Z mech mains when you let their gargolagist live:

  • @limeanimations4201
    @limeanimations4201 Před rokem +14

    This guy play bad lvls just for us what a legend

  • @kyliemylieprogramer1389
    @kyliemylieprogramer1389 Před rokem +4

    I love how every solution to these horrible levels are pvz2 or remade pvz1 plants-

  • @flyguydev2008
    @flyguydev2008 Před rokem +3

    WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!!!!!!! WHY GARG TENTS!? WHY BEFORE THE FIRST FLAG!? WHY!?

  • @elijahray5194
    @elijahray5194 Před rokem +3

    You all can gave your fun, I'm sticking with my Jurassic Marshes and Big Wave Beaches.

  • @kiseki8351
    @kiseki8351 Před rokem +4

    For a decent while he even managed to keep things symmetrical (until the level 3 gargs came)

  • @navyblues1969
    @navyblues1969 Před rokem +3

    they might as well have made the entire lvl with level 5 guard gantuars

  • @wimpodxd1036
    @wimpodxd1036 Před rokem +1

    thanks to these video's i just see the Turkey pult as the Ultimate Gargantuar Slayer

  • @larrymantic2635
    @larrymantic2635 Před rokem +4

    WHOEVER THE HELL PUT GARGS INSIDE TENTS MIGHT NEED TO PAY UP.

  • @ammaryt1186
    @ammaryt1186 Před rokem +4

    Plot twist: The tents have a hidden portal of MD day 16 from the International version

  • @buffete3753
    @buffete3753 Před rokem +3

    Always love to watch ya struggle to entertain us , keep your gold bar incoming ^^

  • @ethanli7048
    @ethanli7048 Před rokem +2

    you can destroy the tents quickly by using Cherry Bombs from the Vase Pult artifact and giving plant food to Cold Snapdragons

  • @ImmolateAll
    @ImmolateAll Před rokem

    Flag Zombie is suffering for us. Thank you man.

  • @navynew
    @navynew Před rokem

    i love these series so much!! keep them up i beg u

  • @MonsterAcaedmy
    @MonsterAcaedmy Před rokem

    I guess you can destoy the tents with pf of citron and lasercrown flower🤔
    Keep up the good work🤗

  • @adi4259j
    @adi4259j Před rokem

    5:12 the cattail that just reborn in bottom right corner is doing her best lol

  • @jonnevitu4979
    @jonnevitu4979 Před rokem +1

    0:25 no joke, I would play this song on my wedding, this song is soo good man.

    • @nkqwithankq6311
      @nkqwithankq6311 Před rokem

      I can see why he played that song,its the definition of calm before the storm which this level is

  • @user-vu7ju3cj3k
    @user-vu7ju3cj3k Před rokem +8

    You have now become one of my favourite youtubers, this is my favourite series from you.

  • @retdc
    @retdc Před rokem +2

    Memory Lane,More like PTSD Lane

  • @cookiecat3210
    @cookiecat3210 Před rokem +2

    heres how to fix this level: make the tents that spawn gargs have less HP, or just lower the levels of the gargs. if they did that. this level would be good!

  • @Edwin_is_dead
    @Edwin_is_dead Před rokem +1

    I have a disgust face for about 20 secs when the gargs begin to spawn from the tents. Good lord🤮

  • @Predator20357
    @Predator20357 Před rokem +6

    These are like those PVZ1 Hard Mode Mods where they spam bulky crap to inflate difficulty.

  • @zellexy
    @zellexy Před rokem

    i love the horrible level design series.

  • @grephi6416
    @grephi6416 Před rokem +3

    does tomb tangler exist in chinese version
    4:22 where did the twins sunflower go?
    12:10 what is happening with the third row

  • @Nhan_joker
    @Nhan_joker Před rokem

    Can you overanalyzing other normal plants at different lever as well i want to see if they have a special ability or not

  • @elgher
    @elgher Před rokem +1

    i wonder what would happen if you planted first on the tiles where the tents would spawn before they do spawn?

    • @flagzombie
      @flagzombie  Před rokem +3

      The plant would just get thrown off the lawn.

  • @filledwithsemengyatt
    @filledwithsemengyatt Před rokem +1

    The first and only level turkey pult actually being used

  • @MDYQF
    @MDYQF Před rokem

    1:14 "Obama Alien Defence" 💀 😭😭😭

  • @woeisme3018
    @woeisme3018 Před rokem

    this looked kind of fun

  • @Zaxmon11
    @Zaxmon11 Před rokem

    What about the memory lane day 8 which is has kind of barrels like exploding barrels., Its impossible to beat 😢

  • @Woodglue1
    @Woodglue1 Před 7 měsíci +2

    1:15 flag zombie what the heck is obama alien defense

  • @ImaGreenBoi
    @ImaGreenBoi Před rokem +8

    The Second Attempt should have been enough if you used Plant Food on Cold Snap and then in the Turkey Pult, because for what I've noticed the Costumed Cold Snap Freezes the entire screen

  • @angvunguyen3662
    @angvunguyen3662 Před rokem

    Will you analyze world plant too (like lotuspot or acornado) ? Ik many of them are boring and just used to counter zombie

  • @Starfruit1
    @Starfruit1 Před rokem

    Just realized that this video came out yesterday

  • @alternatedenz
    @alternatedenz Před rokem

    BABE WAKE UP
    NEW FLAG ZOMBIE VIDEO JUST DROPPED

  • @4ehoBek_4ehoBek
    @4ehoBek_4ehoBek Před 11 měsíci

    This looks like nightmare that you see while having boiling temperature

  • @satriaaddeva7649
    @satriaaddeva7649 Před rokem +5

    Do they even test these levels

  • @jiwooie_
    @jiwooie_ Před rokem

    How do you go to memory lane? Or access it?

  • @cyborg428105
    @cyborg428105 Před rokem +1

    Guess you could say that level is a little too in’tents’! XD

  • @whatswrongwithme
    @whatswrongwithme Před 9 měsíci +1

    I think that the level should've had healers from Rome.😥

  • @Justcommentinhere
    @Justcommentinhere Před rokem

    I am not joking if I say that you are best pvz content creator

  • @Raddimitri9263
    @Raddimitri9263 Před rokem +8

    Imagine a level that’s just knight gargantars and horse zombies😮 flag zombie

    • @Coldysnapdragon
      @Coldysnapdragon Před rokem +1

      i can make it , what lawn should this be on?

    • @dawipeach8948
      @dawipeach8948 Před rokem +4

      @@Coldysnapdragon Big Wave Beach. Garg spam at Wave 1, Horse Zombies at the very start of the lvl, don’t lose any lawnmowers, dont lose any plants and produce atleast 50000 Sun(no Sun producers, Sunbean only)

    • @Coldysnapdragon
      @Coldysnapdragon Před rokem +3

      @@dawipeach8948 ok

    • @Coldysnapdragon
      @Coldysnapdragon Před rokem +3

      @@dawipeach8948 i will make it 😂

    • @dawipeach8948
      @dawipeach8948 Před rokem +1

      @@Coldysnapdragon Oh and don’t forget to make all the gargs have the Health of a Giga-garg from PvZ1

  • @squidtilus0.400
    @squidtilus0.400 Před rokem

    Good job.

  • @stevethemastersword
    @stevethemastersword Před 6 měsíci

    its a sign of a *very* good level when its unclear if its even possible after roughly 30 seconds

  • @Kkf64
    @Kkf64 Před rokem

    Really hope you'll cover Pvz2 AltverZ's BWBX-X Coastal Calamity at some point

  • @Lumithion
    @Lumithion Před rokem

    Here is a suggestion for a Horrible Level Design video:
    PVZ 2 Reflourished: Modern Day 40. It was unbelievably hard and no matter what I tried, I had to use power-ups. It may be just me, but this level absolutely sucks, especially with the Rodeo Legend Zombie.

  • @smd4060
    @smd4060 Před 11 měsíci +1

    The point of how to beat memory lane hard mode is the artifact. Some level require you to have max lvl artifact if you want to beat it

  • @damie9412
    @damie9412 Před rokem

    Nice

  • @MagisterLive12
    @MagisterLive12 Před rokem

    Is it possible to rename the "Memory Line" to "Nightmare Line" or "Memory line of a person with a temperature above 40 degrees, sick with cholera"?

  • @tree1594
    @tree1594 Před 9 měsíci +2

    " hey boss, i just beat our level!"
    " with level 1 plants, right? "
    "with level 5 plants, sir. "
    " PERFECT! "

    • @THEnicholasvancosky
      @THEnicholasvancosky Před 6 měsíci

      And yet Memory Lane forces you to use level 1 plants. GENIUS!!!

  • @noobgod6
    @noobgod6 Před rokem

    2:44 why are the imps perfectly timed with the music

  • @mateusmacieldossantos5766

    How to create a horrible level in PvZ 2: fill it with portals, put a bunch of objectives, just put super strong zombies and that's it, your level is ready

  • @forcedexcess26
    @forcedexcess26 Před rokem +2

    Oops! all gargs

  • @mic_rula_old_schoola
    @mic_rula_old_schoola Před rokem +1

    Whoever made this needs to lose their level creation privileges.

  • @DanialProhozdenia
    @DanialProhozdenia Před 11 měsíci +1

    The level could be actually fun if there was only 1 tent and it would be conveyer so it gives interesting challenge

  • @funkingarden123
    @funkingarden123 Před rokem

    7:40 wait,you get vase artifact free? How to get that?

    • @flagzombie
      @flagzombie  Před rokem +1

      You have to go to the artifacts menu and beat the level associated with the artifact (this only applies to this one and the Healing Staff). Heads-up though, it's not easy without good plants.

  • @TurkishReeves
    @TurkishReeves Před rokem

    Shocking.

  • @vietkoala303
    @vietkoala303 Před rokem +4

    Average eclise levels:

  • @damienshingledecker2312

    Hey, love the content, but I've got a question. So, for the leveling system of pvz2 China, the plants gain 50% more health and damage right, but is it multiplicative or additive. Basically, we will say a plant does 100 damage a shot at level 1, level 2 would always make it do 150, but would level 3 do 225 damage, or 200 damage?

  • @unowncommenter9581
    @unowncommenter9581 Před rokem

    So quick question, how have you beaten the Vase Artifact quest? Unless I'm tackling the wrong level, the Z-Corpion Elite always throws vases onto the first column, and always ends up getting me killed by a chicken or something. Have any tips?

    • @flagzombie
      @flagzombie  Před rokem +1

      There's isn't a good way to deal with him. I had a level 5 Peashooter with Torchwood to kill him as fast as possible when I did it. There won't always be zombies thrown on column 1 so luck is also a factor.

    • @unowncommenter9581
      @unowncommenter9581 Před rokem

      @@flagzombie Darn. Well, thanks for the tip anyway! I can engineer some sort of solution.

    • @cygnus_a0
      @cygnus_a0 Před rokem

      I used level 2 Cactus along with Squash, Lava Guava, Primal Sunflower and Heath Seeker. Cactus took care of chickens (except the ones spawning on the first column at times). Also interestingly, Heath Seeker's cooldown is exactly same as cool down of Z-Corpion Elite's Attack time. I used this as an advantage and used Heath Seeker every time he launched Vases, pretty much clearing the lawn.

  • @namelesschannel4103
    @namelesschannel4103 Před 8 měsíci

    Honestly it seemed quite fun, but yeah depending on plants that are hard to get is a big red flag

  • @AstonLiang
    @AstonLiang Před rokem

    video aboutt artifacts when?

  • @undefind3426
    @undefind3426 Před rokem +2

    Oh, and the only way to permanently remove a plant with the Beam gimmick is on is by
    1: Have it get abducted in anyway, parrots, wormholes or black hole.
    2: Have a zombie burn it

  • @andreanardelli6468
    @andreanardelli6468 Před rokem

    Ok garg spam, this is new

  • @cartergames3793
    @cartergames3793 Před rokem

    I sense fear

  • @felixerlandson5270
    @felixerlandson5270 Před rokem

    8:20
    Magneat :)

  • @abutisuna
    @abutisuna Před rokem +4

    Memory lane. The only thing that will stay in your memory will be the absurd difficulty of the levels

  • @Lilliana1
    @Lilliana1 Před rokem

    It makes you wonder why tf would this guy not plant food the shadow shroom against those high health targets

    • @flagzombie
      @flagzombie  Před rokem +4

      Poison sucks against high health zombies like Gargs, what are you on about?

    • @dynamitoriel9056
      @dynamitoriel9056 Před rokem +2

      @@flagzombie I think they assume poison in this game work like poison from perfume zombie Ability or steam (which sadly wasn't true)

  • @Lordbowser666
    @Lordbowser666 Před 8 měsíci

    The bean gimmick would be fun in a better level. One were you can only use insta's (just with that)

  • @darkarcher908
    @darkarcher908 Před rokem +2

    todays pinata level is very horrible, it gives you the worst plants for the level and just spams chicken zombies and coneheads and expect you to complete it using fume shroom and repeater

  • @MrZombiepvz
    @MrZombiepvz Před rokem +1

    question: which kirby games did u play ?

    • @flagzombie
      @flagzombie  Před rokem +4

      Kirby's Adventure on 3DS, Amazing Mirror, Super Star Ultra, Return to Dreamland, Triple Deluxe, Fighters Deluxe and Planet Robobot.

  • @Sandu7231
    @Sandu7231 Před rokem

    Great video flag!😊
    This levels are very bad in coding,maybe the chinese version need more coding becuase of this VERY big content for this version and that cause bugs and glichtes.

  • @Womp_Womp_idc
    @Womp_Womp_idc Před rokem

    In pvz China version it might have a lot of bugs and bad designs I still see it as the best pvz game (of the tower defense ones) cause you get more attacks and just overall better plants peashooter in pvz China has the literal strength of like 10 lv.10 peashooters in the international version

  • @Beemodude
    @Beemodude Před rokem +1

    Why do they suck with these memory lane levels ? It took me ages to beat