A few years ago we boarded our plane at SNA after a trip to Disneyland. And as we were boarding the pilot gets on and says, "Folks, we don't want to rush you, but Air Force 1 is due to arrive at Vegas about the same time we are. We'd sure like to beat them in so we aren't stuck in the air, so if you could all take your seats as quickly as possible we'll get on our way." Everyone kind of paused for a second and then settled in. Was the craziest takeoff I've had in a commercial jet. When we hit altitude the pilot pushed over hard enough that we got a little bit of negative g. I'm sure he wasn't allowed to go flat out, but I'm also sure he requested to push his speed as much as he could because it was the quickest SNA - LAS run I've ever been on. "We're beginning our descent into Vegas and it looks like we're going to be one of the last handfull of planes allowed to land before Air Force 1 shuts down the airspace. Glad we could get you to Vegas on time."
SNA also has one of the steepest take off angles in the country so that feeling was probably the normal feeling we all have when leaving SNA. They have to rise quickly and cut the engines so the rich people in Newport don't get angry. After getting used to that takeoff angle, normal takeoffs feel so slow and shallow!
@@mtnbiker432 Yeah, I've flown out of SNA a number of times and it always is a rush. This just felt more so. Maybe it was just a psychological thing because we were "racing" to beat AF1 in. That's likely all it was. Either way, it was a fun flight. :D
@@borkingdoggouwuuwuw The pilots don't know why there is a TFR though. They get scheduled for many things, not just AF1. So far all they know it was something mundane going on.
Those controllers are champs. Trying to get out as many ppl as possible before shutting down. Heck yeah! I never knew air traffic control was such an intense job
He sounds pleasant enough. I doubt that he's missing on any sleep about it, though. He also sounds confident and maybe even proud of flying a PIP. (pretty important plane, scnr ;-D )
@@jefferywilliams8479 More dangerous in civilian airspace. AF1 might have the experience in civilian airspace, but most military pilots do not and are a positive menace in busy airspace.
@@T33K3SS3LCH3N desecrating everything he touches... as an ex soldier i cringe when that guy makes a salute, or when he doesnt. Because the soldiers, security people around him - actually are competent and earned and deserve the position and rank they have. They watch over him wasting tax money on golf trips, while getting a fraction of a pay and with helluva lot luck survive their service time and end with a small house as their own... or maybe not even that.
Why does AF-1 have to land at a COMMERCIAL airport when there are so many military bases near to the POTUS's destination? It's not as if the POTUS has to arrange for ground transportation or worry about baggage claim.
One MercilessMing+ Air Force One can and does land at military instillation's, but handling not only his aircraft but the several other aircraft's that follow (his motorcade, vehicles, crew, secret service etc) is easier when landing commercial. A military airport most likely won't be as close to his final destination and the route the president takes would have to be secured, which means the secret service will be closing and securing highways and surface streets to ensure they're safe. It's an inconvenience, but one I think most people understand seeing as how he is the most powerful person in the free world. Generally the only people who complain about this are freedom hating assholes. ;)
I didn't know, either, but watching the video, I was able to figure it out in context. It was either Temporary Flight Restrictions or Totally Foolish Requirements. Temporary Flight Restrictions won out. I still feel that AF-1 could easily land at ANY military base (especially Air Force) in the area. All military bases have landing strips. The POTUS doesn't have to be concerned with ground transportation or collecting his bags, etc. There would be no inconvenience to the flying public. No lost connections. No missed business meetings.
One MercilessMing there are a lot of air force stations/bases that share runways with commercial. PDX is one of those. and also a major hub. I could be wrong but I believe Travis air force base is the "closest" base where AF1 would've been able to land that's not also servicing commercial flights. point is though that the air force does share a number of airports with the commercial aviation industry.
Jeffery Antioquia, While some military facilities may share runways with commercial airports, it doesn't change the fact that AF-1 could EASILY utilize a military base (where security can be much tighter). Instead, thousands of people flying commercially were impacted by a POTUS who, apparently, has little regard for the people whom he reputably serves (not lords over).
The sweep they're discussing is a manual search for FOD, Foreign Objects and Debris. This is not optional prior to AF1 departure or landing. They don't mess around with AF1.
I was a C-5 flight scheduler for many years and I had to work with the Secret Service folks to coordinate airlift support for their vehicles when the president traveled. What a cluster it was dealing with those guys. They knew they were at the top of the food chain and they weren't afraid to remind you either.
Gotta love the British pilot accidentally starting his callsign with Golf out of force of habit followed by the ATC making the exact same mistake with November for the same reason (around 4:00)
I’ve seen Air Force one at bordeaux (BOD), France. During the G7 in France, he has landed there because the runway of biarritz (BIQ) is too short for a 747………I was really glad to see this iconic plane of our Americans friend………💕💕💕
Not knowledgeable in those terms but I believe it means this: Get shifting right now and move to your destination on the runway at maximum safe speed, if you experience any delays tell us and we need to reevaluate the situation. I have seen enough of Kennedy Steve to know that some pilots are not really concerned to get anywhere quick and then need to be asked why they are not where they should be.
It's probably a lot more stressful since everything is essentially put on lock down for the duration of time the president is in the area. I'm sure they feel bad ass but that quickly subsides when they have to tell other aircraft's they can't go anywhere.
+Literally Shitler And then deal with trying to get trough the backlog and get their airspace back into it's nice orderly running they had before AF1 came and messed everything up.
Fun fact: the Boeing VC-25As only get the call sign 'Air Force One' if the president is actually onboard. Any airplane can get this designation no matter the type in which case it will get the same priority as if it was the B747 type of airplane. Traditionally the same goes for the call sign 'Marine One' for any aircraft specifically operated by the USMC, usually a helicopter.
Air Force One Marine One Army One Navy One All for their respective branches. And if the sitting president happens to be on a civilian plane? Executive One
@@michaelkotula6727 (a) When the President is aboard a military aircraft, state the name of the military service, followed by the word “One.” EXAMPLE− “Air Force One.” “Army One.” “Marine One.” It would be Coast Guard One.
Doesnt really matter. This is a question of national security. They do their job and everyone else has to deal with it. It sucks but thats life ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@ajg8600 Also, sometimes it's logistically easier to land in a city with a civilian airport, especially if there is no base nearby. Clinton visited my town in the 90s and they had to land at our airport because there was no good base nearby.
Military aircraft also use a dedicated UHF-AM band from 225.0-399.95 MHz for air-to-air and air-to-ground, including air traffic control communication. This band has a designated emergency and guard channel of 243.0 MHz. Radio aeronautical navigation aids (navaids) use other frequencies.
What happens if someone, other then AF1, declares an emergency during thr TFR? Does ATC give priority to the aircraft in distress or does AF1 still get priority?
Harry, the DC metro area is essentially a permanent restriction zone, it's like Air Force One is always there. There is an Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) with a 30 nmi radius, and within that there is the DC flight restriction zone (FRZ).
"Special awareness training is required for VFR flight within 60 nautical miles of the DCA VOR/DME, are you familiar with the DCA SFRA and procedures?" lol
I don't think a lot of people understand how much comes with AF1. At some point before AF1 got there a cargo plane landed that had the presidential cars in it. The "backup" AF1 was flying with it, it may land at a airforce base though. Not to mention the air force escort AF1 gets while flying. I'm actually shocked it was just a 45 minute delay. And people get so upset when presidents don't load up and head straight to a disaster area. It causes so much chaos it's just not worth it.
The trouble is in this political climate, if people don't like the president they will criticise them no matter what they do. Don't go to the disaster area, they don't care. Fly out straight away, they are taking up valuble resourses and causing disruption just for photo oppertunities. Left or right, republican or democrat doesn't come into it, both sides are as bad as each other.
Melissa, the air force does not escort air force one at all except possibily in and out of war zones. only exception was on 9/11. the air force and secret service reqularly turn down escort offers from foreign countries as well
I actually flew out right after he left. Our flight was about 30 minutes late. I got a pic of it leaving. Funny, everyone was way more excited when Air Force One left than when it arrived……. Don’t know why……………
Would be interesting to know the timescale here. ATC tells those planes that they have a window to get them out before the TFR, then tells them to stop and shut down. Did they miss the window, or did the window change?
@@kcook8119 "They also say Air Force 2 when the 2nd plane flies." LOL! "Air Force One" isn't a plane, it's a radio call-sign for ANY Air Force plane the president is aboard, and ONLY when he's aboard. "Air Force Two" is the call-sign for any Air Force plane when the vice president is aboard. When both VC-25 aircraft are flying, the one carrying the president would be "Air Force One," and the other would be "SAM (Special Air Mission) XXXXX" with the "XXXXX" being the tail number of that aircraft or the assigned mission number.
I worked in aeronautical operations at KJFK. I assisted in handling AF1 movements from the Ragan to Obama administrations'. I'd love to comment on so many things but feel it better not to. I will comment on one question I read way down the list, someone asked where was the back up plane, the back up plane is only used on trips to foreign countries.
VQBLA - That sounds like a pain in the rear as a call sign. Who decides call signs on private planes or are they from the tail number?? Hope everyone's doing good.
What would happen if such a TFR got into effect at some airport and then an airplane has to declare MAYDAY (a medical emergency, or something other that absolutely prohibits the rerouting to another airport or any delay) and is forced to land?
Emergencies (aircraft in distress) always have priority, even over Air Force One. This is specifically stated in the regulations -- FAAO 7110.65. However, it's unlikely to happen. Presidential movements are carefully orchestrated, weeks in advance. Air Force One is not a "surprise"... the controllers have known for at least 4 or 5 days exactly when it's coming, and the procedures that will be used. Pilots based in the area are also notified several days in advance. Domestic Air Force One itineraries are not secret... everyone knows, well in advance, what is going to happen.
@@ServantOfOdin That's true. I implied that emergencies won't happen, but I should have explained that more clearly. Since the TFR is announced well in advance, the likelihood of an emergency in the vicinity of the airport is greatly reduced. In other words, if the airspace is sterilized and advertised well in advance, there's practically no chance that any aircraft will be anywhere near the airport, in a position to declare an emergency.
That being said on top of what everyone else had said, the person declaring the emergency would be checked and if they pulled a fast one they'd be in hella trouble. Something like a low fuel emergency they'd be sent elsewhere and if they've become so low they can't make elsewhere they'd be in serious trouble. But a mechanical emergency of serious nature you'd be fine.
hell SWA expedites taxi's all the time. we left tampa one day 40 minutes late engines were at full as soon as we hit the runway. and then sharp turns to get out of the airspace. pilot actually apologized for the turns. we were on time in phoenix. they hauled ass all the way
They were due to have a ramp freeze and shut the airspace down, but they opened the airspace up to allow a couple of aircraft to depart. Very interesting without any delay, right until the airspace shuts down again.
just listening to this makes me stressed lol. cant imagine actually being in the tower an controlling them with a 12 minute window until the coolest and most iconic plane lands (AF1)
It's interesting to listen to, but God, it brings back so many bad memories... I worked at SFO and I remember how President Obama was constantly flying in. After the second time of seeing Air Force One the novelty wore off. Every time it caused huge delays. Despite Moffett field being 20 minutes south, they insisted on coming to an incredibly busy commercial airport because it was closer to the city, even if he was going to an area that was closer to the south bay. We stared calling it "opening the cash register" because he always came to SF to get donations for the DNC.
Yeah, man. Something most people don't get, and why there was a huge stink all those years ago when Obama went to NYC for lunch...just 'cause (or something like that, I can't remember the details.) Point is, not just AF1, but the whole entourage that accompanies the POTUS is a huge, expensive hassle for everyone in his wake, and most people don't get that. Good presidents do.
You morons bitching about Obama say nothing about our newest POTUS fucking things up in Florida every time he heads down to "open the cash register" at Mar a Lago. Knock off your political BS.
I think the only place that doesn't get bothered when Air Force 1 arrives is military bases because they don't have to cease operations in most cases as they are already secure, they do stop all flights but most military flights are cargo (something people don't realize) and unlike at commercial airports where the flight restriction is until the president has left the airport at a military base its only until it lands and has taxied to its parking location
No I was at NAS Lemoore when AF1 landed there it was a cluster fuck. Half the samn field was shut down the entire time it was there, and security was a nightmare to get into ops side of base just to go to our hangers.
i was at Andrews AFB one day on the ramp, the C-5 took off, about 10 minutes later 1 of the 747's took off 5 minutes later the 2nd one did. no big deal everything seemed more normal than the day before
I'd have to look at the charts, however, knowing the Reno airport as well as I do, I don't think he'd be able to turn off the high-speeds on 16R into the parking area at the ANG ramp. The guys going there normally taxi to the end of 16R and around.
Mike is somewhat restricted south of the ramp - those taxiways are fairly narrow down at that end of the airport, and they park closer to the intersection of 16R / 25 - that's why he went to the end.
Reduces the need for heavy braking and as stops reduces the risk of overheating the brakes so that if they need to take off again in a hurry, the don't need to wait for the brakes to cool. Aircrat likely to still be on the heavy side too due to fuel, for the same reason
Everytime I see a movie regarding TFRs or other special measures because of the president I’m stunned by the how far America goes in protecting him. Here in The Netherlands our King flies on legacy carriers between ordinary passengers if the schedules with the government airplane don’t work our or if it is more convenient (As recent as two weeks ago when he and his family had to go Argentina for a funeral; they flew business with KLM). Is America just so affraid that something might happen or is this just part of the show?
No its not. Nothing in the sky over the US is going to be a threat no reason to send fighters and if there was a threat it would be intercepted WAY before it reach the shores of the US. That fatty can handle itself with its defensive abilities
I have heard multiple myths that they do have an escort to a specific distance, I hear that jets are on standby for a rapid response, who knows honestly
A 747 is quite a bit faster then the vast majority of relatively affordable general aviation aircraft. Don’t think they would need to worry much about avoiding a madman in a Cessna 172, or Cirrus SR22. Would only need to worry about airliners and corporate jets who would all be grounded or well outside the TFR zone.
I can't image AF1 not having a bubble of restricted air space around it. AFBs always have alert squadrons on standby within minutes and I would guess that when AF1 is in the vicinity of AFBs, the alert status is heightened. So ideally, when an aircraft or any other airborne object enters the restricted airspace around AF1.. AF1 would take evasive action and the alert fighters are scrambled and vectored to intercept. Of course I could be completely wrong, I'm just a random guy theorizing what I would expect to be protocol.
At the end, did AF1 cross a runway without permission. I realise that, with TFR, nothing else is moving and AF1 may not need permission, but there is no reason not to ask.
He gave him permission in his taxi instructions. Since nothing was moving he just told him to go ahead and cross so he didn't have to hold short and request.
Modeltrains160 - Starwarsrocks160 Aircraft in Distress are always Priority. Whether AF1 is nearby or not, that's irrelevant. That's probably one of the few cases where you will see someone else get priority over AF1.
Negative! If the in flt emergency was unable to divert to another field or airport and AF1 is democrat he has to kiss his ass goodbye. If AF1 is Republican they would advise the tower to give priority to the emergency and state they would be 'on the go' and to advise when clear and allowed to land.
D. Geo petty partisanship is fucking retarded. Especially when youre trying to paint a party that hates anyone not rich as caring about an emergency. Theyve been ignoring the opioid crisis for years. But hey keep thinking a bunch of rich people care about your stupid ass. That'll fix the country
Underling VASAviation's answer, when Nixon resigned, he was in the air in Air Force One when Ford was sworn in. AF1 redesignated itself as SAM27000 (the tail number of the aircraft being used) in mid air when Nixon ceased to be President. Reference: www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/us/politics/17albertazzie.html?_r=2&hpw=&pagewanted=print
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"Tower, this is Air Force One.."
Rest of the pilots wanting to land or take off..." well, that's my dinner plans for tonight runined"
Lol
Pilots: DANGIT!
air force 1: CMON GUYS RELAX! Its Official business!
Pilots: I love how smooth and non delayed everything is today
Air Force 1: Hold my TFR
lmaoooooo
It is very satisfying that this has 747 likes
@@boocraftgaming Now 757 likes- what is this, Air Force 2?
@@rudi_ghuliani On our way to 767 and Air Force 3 :)
@@boocraftgaming already past 777 and moving to 787, Air Force 5 😁
You know that pilot has to have a smirky grin when he says air force 1 over the radio 😀
Patrick Fain of course
It's a big honor to carry the president.
When they repeat the altitude like 'descend to 1-6 16000' ft" they're former military pilots!
It's the coolest call sign on the planet, he's got to be smug....
@@gooner72 Runners up imo are Speedbird 1 & 2, used for BA's LHR-JFK-LHR Concorde runs (used for JFK-LCY now... meh)
Taxi without Delay - What every New Yorker wishes they could have
Good one 😅
A few years ago we boarded our plane at SNA after a trip to Disneyland. And as we were boarding the pilot gets on and says, "Folks, we don't want to rush you, but Air Force 1 is due to arrive at Vegas about the same time we are. We'd sure like to beat them in so we aren't stuck in the air, so if you could all take your seats as quickly as possible we'll get on our way." Everyone kind of paused for a second and then settled in. Was the craziest takeoff I've had in a commercial jet. When we hit altitude the pilot pushed over hard enough that we got a little bit of negative g. I'm sure he wasn't allowed to go flat out, but I'm also sure he requested to push his speed as much as he could because it was the quickest SNA - LAS run I've ever been on. "We're beginning our descent into Vegas and it looks like we're going to be one of the last handfull of planes allowed to land before Air Force 1 shuts down the airspace. Glad we could get you to Vegas on time."
SNA also has one of the steepest take off angles in the country so that feeling was probably the normal feeling we all have when leaving SNA. They have to rise quickly and cut the engines so the rich people in Newport don't get angry. After getting used to that takeoff angle, normal takeoffs feel so slow and shallow!
@@mtnbiker432 Yeah, I've flown out of SNA a number of times and it always is a rush. This just felt more so. Maybe it was just a psychological thing because we were "racing" to beat AF1 in. That's likely all it was. Either way, it was a fun flight. :D
Was that during Obama’s or Trumps presidency?
@@Speedster___ Obama.
@@mtnbiker432 San diego was surprisingly like this as well.
"Tower this is AF1"
Everyone: "crap"
They already had tfr set for before, so Af1 contacted far before hand.
@@borkingdoggouwuuwuw The pilots don't know why there is a TFR though. They get scheduled for many things, not just AF1. So far all they know it was something mundane going on.
"Can we go in before AF1"
"Negative"
*snickers* I don't know what they were expecting.
ain't hurt asking :-)
there's always one like that in the group
Never been politically correct so... But with an accent like that, it's,"Hell Negative"
What if his fuel was critically low? I mean I will drop out of the sky in 4 minutes low?
@@suratroadkingpvtltd5769in that case it's a Mayday Fule situation. I imagine he'd be redirected or allowed to land.
I've watch so many airforceproud95 videos that it feels wierd to hear the callsign af1 from a grownup real pilot
hah same here
Same here lmao
@@hesarasenanayake5416 i spam AFP every 6 months or so and always end up watching these after, natural progression :)
Peter D'angelo AirForceProud95 is a real grownup pilot
@@RealZynexx I'm talking about those silly kids in his videos.
“Air Force One, I’ve got a number for you when you’re ready...”
"Tower, just letting you know that we'll file an airport deviation report"
"that doesn't exist"
"It does now"
Looool
“Air Force one, be ready to copy that number…….it’s the President’s approval rating.”
just a mad scramble to take off before AF1 starts to land lol
Air Force pilots always talk super slick on the radio.
Almost come off as slick as Navy pilots
his initial call to twr was a trainwreck but ok.
A good Cessna pilot is just as "slick".... the size of the aircraft has nothin' to do with the "slickness" when on the radio.
Jake Kitzmiller they have every right to 😂
Now, Now. Slickness has nothing to do with the length of your tongue. It's how you use it that counts.
Those controllers are champs. Trying to get out as many ppl as possible before shutting down. Heck yeah! I never knew air traffic control was such an intense job
I wonder if AF1 pilot feels bad knowing that wherever his plane goes he is inconveniencing every other pilot in the area
blackjacki2 not at all.
No, because it's the fucking president. His safety and ability to get around quickly is more important than a delay.
No, cause no fucks given
He sounds pleasant enough. I doubt that he's missing on any sleep about it, though. He also sounds confident and maybe even proud of flying a PIP.
(pretty important plane, scnr ;-D )
He has bigger things to worry about.
I love the difference in the way military pilots sound
For sure more seasoned, more formal.
@@jefferywilliams8479 I'm gonna go ahead and take a wild guess that newbies don't get to fly the AF1...
@@gekko434 likely not
@@jefferywilliams8479 More dangerous in civilian airspace. AF1 might have the experience in civilian airspace, but most military pilots do not and are a positive menace in busy airspace.
@@iatsd AF1 has the benefit of TFRs at their disposal too.
Must feel like a total boss piloting AF1, getting entire airports to cater for u to land with no go arounds or delays
@@ctech9856 heres another question... do u think they care? Lol
Must feel awful to carry that orange... thing... around.
@@T33K3SS3LCH3N maga2020
@@T33K3SS3LCH3N desecrating everything he touches... as an ex soldier i cringe when that guy makes a salute, or when he doesnt. Because the soldiers, security people around him - actually are competent and earned and deserve the position and rank they have. They watch over him wasting tax money on golf trips, while getting a fraction of a pay and with helluva lot luck survive their service time and end with a small house as their own... or maybe not even that.
@@Elliott2001 whoops
When your departure schedule is right at the time the Air Force 1 comes in.... =(
Why does AF-1 have to land at a COMMERCIAL airport when there are so many military bases near to the POTUS's destination? It's not as if the POTUS has to arrange for ground transportation or worry about baggage claim.
Exactly what I was about to comment on
Would also be a lot safer for everyone
Because he can. Now shut up peasant! :)
VASAviation - Do you plan on doing an video of the flight KLM701? An passenger died of cardiac arrest after the plane emergency landed on SBCT...
One MercilessMing+ Air Force One can and does land at military instillation's, but handling not only his aircraft but the several other aircraft's that follow (his motorcade, vehicles, crew, secret service etc) is easier when landing commercial. A military airport most likely won't be as close to his final destination and the route the president takes would have to be secured, which means the secret service will be closing and securing highways and surface streets to ensure they're safe. It's an inconvenience, but one I think most people understand seeing as how he is the most powerful person in the free world. Generally the only people who complain about this are freedom hating assholes. ;)
Why am i so interested in these? Can't stop
I find them strangely relaxing.
TFR = Temporary Flight Restriction (in case you don't know like me)
Yes, I show it at the beginning of the video ;)
I didn't know, either, but watching the video, I was able to figure it out in context. It was either Temporary Flight Restrictions or Totally Foolish Requirements. Temporary Flight Restrictions won out.
I still feel that AF-1 could easily land at ANY military base (especially Air Force) in the area. All military bases have landing strips. The POTUS doesn't have to be concerned with ground transportation or collecting his bags, etc. There would be no inconvenience to the flying public. No lost connections. No missed business meetings.
TM Timelapse thanks was wondering!
One MercilessMing there are a lot of air force stations/bases that share runways with commercial. PDX is one of those. and also a major hub. I could be wrong but I believe Travis air force base is the "closest" base where AF1 would've been able to land that's not also servicing commercial flights. point is though that the air force does share a number of airports with the commercial aviation industry.
Jeffery Antioquia, While some military facilities may share runways with commercial airports, it doesn't change the fact that AF-1 could EASILY utilize a military base (where security can be much tighter). Instead, thousands of people flying commercially were impacted by a POTUS who, apparently, has little regard for the people whom he reputably serves (not lords over).
The sweep they're discussing is a manual search for FOD, Foreign Objects and Debris. This is not optional prior to AF1 departure or landing. They don't mess around with AF1.
9:07 you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, lmao
kevo31415 this guy gets it
Lol 😂
It was worth a shot lmao
- Wayne Gretzky
~Wayne Gretzky
~Michael Scott
Typical day in FSX
AJHedges LOL and no one give a shit
not so rude buddy
I assume he was clogging the shitter at the time?
AirForceProud95 I see ;) Nice one sauce boss!
sagiksp thats an affirm, president has clogged the shitter, have the pepto bismol ready on arrival.
I was a C-5 flight scheduler for many years and I had to work with the Secret Service folks to coordinate airlift support for their vehicles when the president traveled. What a cluster it was dealing with those guys. They knew they were at the top of the food chain and they weren't afraid to remind you either.
I take it, BAD TIPPERS......
I love how a commercial pilot says "we can't wait 40 minutes,..could we take off? ....."uh negative!" Lol Air Force one has priority lol
If I'm not mistaken, the plane that said it couldn't wait 40 was *on approach*, not on the ground...
Gotta love the British pilot accidentally starting his callsign with Golf out of force of habit followed by the ATC making the exact same mistake with November for the same reason (around 4:00)
What do its mean?
@@g4lmobile798 Golf (G) is the starting letter for British aircraft registrations. November (N) is for American aircraft. Examples: G-ABCD, N1234DL.
I’ve seen Air Force one at bordeaux (BOD), France. During the G7 in France, he has landed there because the runway of biarritz (BIQ) is too short for a 747………I was really glad to see this iconic plane of our Americans friend………💕💕💕
sure theyre still friends? Or is your statement the result of sucsessful blackmailing? .-)
@@zoolkhan bro shut the fuck up 💀 not everyone has to be mad 24/7
@@zoolkhan or maybe its just called ALLIES
It's called empire. @@seantaggart7382
This is so cool to see an actual TFR in effect, I've always seen and heard about them but never flown during one!
"taxi without delay, please" is the Soutwest standard, so nothing special there ;)
What exactly does that phrase mean? I fly SWA a lot, really enjoy the takeoffs from the taxis that basically never stop rolling lol.
Not knowledgeable in those terms but I believe it means this: Get shifting right now and move to your destination on the runway at maximum safe speed, if you experience any delays tell us and we need to reevaluate the situation.
I have seen enough of Kennedy Steve to know that some pilots are not really concerned to get anywhere quick and then need to be asked why they are not where they should be.
@@icantsurf89 it means hurry tf up
I so love hearing the Airforce One pilots. Their comms are just beautifully so clear.
I'm guessing it is an ATC dream to be talking with Air Force 1.
Certainly makes the day more enlightening. Although the biggest hassle was the TFR. Not directing AF1.
fahkzz are you a controller
It's probably a lot more stressful since everything is essentially put on lock down for the duration of time the president is in the area. I'm sure they feel bad ass but that quickly subsides when they have to tell other aircraft's they can't go anywhere.
+Literally Shitler And then deal with trying to get trough the backlog and get their airspace back into it's nice orderly running they had before AF1 came and messed everything up.
Probably makes his day worse.
Telling Southwest to taxi without delay is a license to speed. V1 minus five, with the FO holding the control column full forward.
"Lovely"
Punny by a Southwest pilot (LOVE)
At 11:13, approach instructs N6451 to turn to 360, but N6451 replies “we’re turning left 350 for traffic” 😶
I noticed that too !!🙌
220, 221.. whatever it takes
Fun fact: the Boeing VC-25As only get the call sign 'Air Force One' if the president is actually onboard. Any airplane can get this designation no matter the type in which case it will get the same priority as if it was the B747 type of airplane.
Traditionally the same goes for the call sign 'Marine One' for any aircraft specifically operated by the USMC, usually a helicopter.
Air Force One
Marine One
Army One
Navy One
All for their respective branches. And if the sitting president happens to be on a civilian plane?
Executive One
@@chrispustelnikas8922 what about Coast Guard One?
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EXAMPLE−
“Air Force One.”
“Army One.”
“Marine One.”
It would be Coast Guard One.
@@chrispustelnikas8922 don't forget Space Force One
@@michaelkotula6727 coast guard 2 happened though.
I get the impression that few pilots like AF1.
Doesnt really matter. This is a question of national security. They do their job and everyone else has to deal with it. It sucks but thats life ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
AJ G no they could just land at army bases like every other political Important person.
@@hr2883 important politicians don't usually ever land at military bases unless they have business there...
@@hr2883 also army bases usually dont have airstrips?
@@ajg8600 Also, sometimes it's logistically easier to land in a city with a civilian airport, especially if there is no base nearby.
Clinton visited my town in the 90s and they had to land at our airport because there was no good base nearby.
I just arrived here, it's really a great channel. All my best.
Can you imagine being AF1 pilot getting to ruin everyone's day and getting dibs? haha.
Military aircraft also use a dedicated UHF-AM band from 225.0-399.95 MHz for air-to-air and air-to-ground, including air traffic control communication. This band has a designated emergency and guard channel of 243.0 MHz. Radio aeronautical navigation aids (navaids) use other frequencies.
Compass 6068 you brave man
Compass is history.
Killed by Covid overreaction
When you're allergic to NOTAMs....
Seriously. What? TFR? Gosh. Can we push now?
What happens if someone, other then AF1, declares an emergency during thr TFR? Does ATC give priority to the aircraft in distress or does AF1 still get priority?
Distress always.
The emergency would take priority always ......The presidents security is not more important then a human life in distress
I wonder if this has ever happened before
@@VASAviation Imagine having to say "no" to AF1.
Technically af1, but really the emergency
That's why pilots hate living near DC
That isnt true. Air Force One takes off and departs from Andrews Air Force base and rarely effects Dulles or National flows.
Harry, the DC metro area is essentially a permanent restriction zone, it's like Air Force One is always there. There is an Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) with a 30 nmi radius, and within that there is the DC flight restriction zone (FRZ).
Yes, Im aware. I live in Reston.
"Special awareness training is required for VFR flight within 60 nautical miles of the DCA VOR/DME, are you familiar with the DCA SFRA and procedures?" lol
DC just sucks in general.
Flying bus drivers are thrilled to see af1, are you kidding...best vantage point anywhere.
I don't think a lot of people understand how much comes with AF1. At some point before AF1 got there a cargo plane landed that had the presidential cars in it. The "backup" AF1 was flying with it, it may land at a airforce base though. Not to mention the air force escort AF1 gets while flying. I'm actually shocked it was just a 45 minute delay. And people get so upset when presidents don't load up and head straight to a disaster area. It causes so much chaos it's just not worth it.
The trouble is in this political climate, if people don't like the president they will criticise them no matter what they do. Don't go to the disaster area, they don't care. Fly out straight away, they are taking up valuble resourses and causing disruption just for photo oppertunities. Left or right, republican or democrat doesn't come into it, both sides are as bad as each other.
Melissa, the air force does not escort air force one at all except possibily in and out of war zones. only exception was on 9/11. the air force and secret service reqularly turn down escort offers from foreign countries as well
I actually flew out right after he left. Our flight was about 30 minutes late. I got a pic of it leaving. Funny, everyone was way more excited when Air Force One left than when it arrived……. Don’t know why……………
because the president was done screwing up traffic all over town
Would be interesting to know the timescale here. ATC tells those planes that they have a window to get them out before the TFR, then tells them to stop and shut down. Did they miss the window, or did the window change?
I wonder if it ever gets old saying "Air Force 1" Everytime you talk to ATC.
Not at all, :)
They also say Air Force 2 when the 2nd plane flies.
@@kcook8119 no that's if the vice president is on board.
@@kcook8119 "They also say Air Force 2 when the 2nd plane flies."
LOL! "Air Force One" isn't a plane, it's a radio call-sign for ANY Air Force plane the president is aboard, and ONLY when he's aboard. "Air Force Two" is the call-sign for any Air Force plane when the vice president is aboard. When both VC-25 aircraft are flying, the one carrying the president would be "Air Force One," and the other would be "SAM (Special Air Mission) XXXXX" with the "XXXXX" being the tail number of that aircraft or the assigned mission number.
@@seikibrian8641 LOL! You're full of shit
"air force one is with you" LOL @12:08
Amazing how many transmissions are over the top of each other.
9/11 atc audio must have been so interesting to hear
Its on CZcams. Search for it.
Thank you, I didn't know. But surely not in a fancy format as VASAviation would.
No I don't think so. To be honest I have never been able to bring myself to listen. Knowing that none of them survived is a little too much for me.
They have that all over youtube
Did you ever watch it
I'm sure every other pilot, just loves AF1 to death....lol!!!!
Most of them are educated enough to hate it's "special passenger's" guts already.
@@T33K3SS3LCH3N haha cry baby MAGA2020
@@Elliott2001 will you two just kiss and get it over with? There are so many comments where you are both pointlessly arguing with eachother
Sw257 got the GREEN LIGHT there. Love it
AF1 pilots radio sounds like they are the radio version of cool side of the pillow.
I worked in aeronautical operations at KJFK. I assisted in handling AF1 movements from the Ragan to Obama administrations'. I'd love to comment on so many things but feel it better not to. I will comment on one question I read way down the list, someone asked where was the back up plane, the back up plane is only used on trips to foreign countries.
VQBLA - That sounds like a pain in the rear as a call sign. Who decides call signs on private planes or are they from the tail number??
Hope everyone's doing good.
not as bad as LXGVI lol the tower didn't even try to read that one out
Death Star, this is the Emperor's shuttle ...
I'm so glad that I have been listening for awhile before I hear this. Really interesting to see the back and forth needed to accommodate AF1.
What would happen if such a TFR got into effect at some airport and then an airplane has to declare MAYDAY (a medical emergency, or something other that absolutely prohibits the rerouting to another airport or any delay) and is forced to land?
Not a controller, but I would let emergency aircraft land.
Emergencies always come first.
Then fighters responding.
Then search and rescue.
Air force 1.
Everything else.
Emergencies (aircraft in distress) always have priority, even over Air Force One. This is specifically stated in the regulations -- FAAO 7110.65. However, it's unlikely to happen. Presidential movements are carefully orchestrated, weeks in advance. Air Force One is not a "surprise"... the controllers have known for at least 4 or 5 days exactly when it's coming, and the procedures that will be used. Pilots based in the area are also notified several days in advance. Domestic Air Force One itineraries are not secret... everyone knows, well in advance, what is going to happen.
@@johnfowler1627 THank you for the info. Well, sure, such flight-plans are planned weeks and months ahead. But emergencies aren't.....
@@ServantOfOdin That's true. I implied that emergencies won't happen, but I should have explained that more clearly. Since the TFR is announced well in advance, the likelihood of an emergency in the vicinity of the airport is greatly reduced. In other words, if the airspace is sterilized and advertised well in advance, there's practically no chance that any aircraft will be anywhere near the airport, in a position to declare an emergency.
if someone declares a emergency and needs to land at a airport during a TFR what would happen?
Turbo Gaming They would get diverted to the nearest airport not within the TFR.
AdmiralNimitz04 I thought they would give them consideration lol
AF1 would depart the area until the emergency is resolved and the tfr was back in place.
That being said on top of what everyone else had said, the person declaring the emergency would be checked and if they pulled a fast one they'd be in hella trouble. Something like a low fuel emergency they'd be sent elsewhere and if they've become so low they can't make elsewhere they'd be in serious trouble. But a mechanical emergency of serious nature you'd be fine.
@@MrJaiimez Why would they get in trouble for really low fuel? How are they supposed to plan for an unknown long TFR?
Funny that he has to ask SWA to to expedite the taxi. Like they are gonna be taxiing slow😂
hell SWA expedites taxi's all the time. we left tampa one day 40 minutes late engines were at full as soon as we hit the runway. and then sharp turns to get out of the airspace. pilot actually apologized for the turns. we were on time in phoenix. they hauled ass all the way
You'd think they'd give Air Force One some sort of coded callsign
Wonder what would happen when you have an established TFR but there is a plane with a blown engine or Mayday call.
Mayday has priority
What happens if a small plane is inbound and doesn't have enough fuel to wait out the TFR or divert?
Would be an emergency and therefore would be allowed to land
He doesn’t even need to tell the SW guys to expedite taxi😉
They were due to have a ramp freeze and shut the airspace down, but they opened the airspace up to allow a couple of aircraft to depart. Very interesting without any delay, right until the airspace shuts down again.
The comms on the AF1 sounds different compare to the rest
Would like to see video of all those taxi without delay aircraft (Insert screeching tire noise for fun).
"Crap, TFR, we got shit going- OH MY FUCKING GOD IT'S THE PRESIDENT."
I live just outside of Reno. It's a notourisly hard airport to come in at because of wind.
I live in Reno. The turbulence when flying Reno is still very unnerving to me. 🤯
Lol at 9:40 I don’t even know how... I think he was about to say I don’t know how you didn’t know this was happening
12:18 Im fairly sure they said Wind is 200 rather than 220... That's what i heard.
Yeah
just listening to this makes me stressed lol. cant imagine actually being in the tower an controlling them with a 12 minute window until the coolest and most iconic plane lands (AF1)
AF1 is a weird way to spell AN-225
It's interesting to listen to, but God, it brings back so many bad memories... I worked at SFO and I remember how President Obama was constantly flying in. After the second time of seeing Air Force One the novelty wore off. Every time it caused huge delays. Despite Moffett field being 20 minutes south, they insisted on coming to an incredibly busy commercial airport because it was closer to the city, even if he was going to an area that was closer to the south bay. We stared calling it "opening the cash register" because he always came to SF to get donations for the DNC.
Peter Banderas you should have refused him clearance.
D. Geo lol was not my call
Yeah, man. Something most people don't get, and why there was a huge stink all those years ago when Obama went to NYC for lunch...just 'cause (or something like that, I can't remember the details.) Point is, not just AF1, but the whole entourage that accompanies the POTUS is a huge, expensive hassle for everyone in his wake, and most people don't get that. Good presidents do.
You morons bitching about Obama say nothing about our newest POTUS fucking things up in Florida every time he heads down to "open the cash register" at Mar a Lago. Knock off your political BS.
I have to agree....Bush seemed to ALWAYS fly into Moffett...which made more sense....less inconvenience to all major airports
I think the only place that doesn't get bothered when Air Force 1 arrives is military bases because they don't have to cease operations in most cases as they are already secure, they do stop all flights but most military flights are cargo (something people don't realize) and unlike at commercial airports where the flight restriction is until the president has left the airport at a military base its only until it lands and has taxied to its parking location
No I was at NAS Lemoore when AF1 landed there it was a cluster fuck. Half the samn field was shut down the entire time it was there, and security was a nightmare to get into ops side of base just to go to our hangers.
i was at Andrews AFB one day on the ramp, the C-5 took off, about 10 minutes later 1 of the 747's took off 5 minutes later the 2nd one did. no big deal everything seemed more normal than the day before
"Is 2323 on that list ?" Awwww :p 14:35
"with two of your brethren"
How do other countries handle AF1? Do they also hault all air traffic in the area when AF1 arrives in their country?
Where was the second plane that follows AF1?
They do that for international flights, not domestic ones.
@@2011blueman the 2nd plane is always within an hour flight time away both go all the time
Anyone know why AF1 would want to taxi from the very end of the runway?
I'd have to look at the charts, however, knowing the Reno airport as well as I do, I don't think he'd be able to turn off the high-speeds on 16R into the parking area at the ANG ramp. The guys going there normally taxi to the end of 16R and around.
Mike is somewhat restricted south of the ramp - those taxiways are fairly narrow down at that end of the airport, and they park closer to the intersection of 16R / 25 - that's why he went to the end.
Reduces the need for heavy braking and as stops reduces the risk of overheating the brakes so that if they need to take off again in a hurry, the don't need to wait for the brakes to cool. Aircrat likely to still be on the heavy side too due to fuel, for the same reason
Wow!
can you do the time air force one landed and daytona air port for the daytona 500?
Everytime I see a movie regarding TFRs or other special measures because of the president I’m stunned by the how far America goes in protecting him. Here in The Netherlands our King flies on legacy carriers between ordinary passengers if the schedules with the government airplane don’t work our or if it is more convenient (As recent as two weeks ago when he and his family had to go Argentina for a funeral; they flew business with KLM). Is America just so affraid that something might happen or is this just part of the show?
Your king probably ....umm...hasn't "upset" as many people as the US president.
Think....middle east....!
Your king is an outlier. These days almost every head of state has a TFR around them when they fly.
To be fair, our President is a considerably larger target than the king of the Netherlands.
Yeah, I’m not exactly sure what goes on there, but I’m sure more people would want to kill our president, so there is a greater risk.
Imagine how good a pilot you gotta be to fly AF 1
Best of the best in many ways and not just a pilot either.
Air Force One should wait their bloody turn.
Hehe, you should have seen I35 when Shrub came to town, You had to turn off your car and the road. Piss in a bar ditch.
I never thought of aircraft having ability to crash into AF1. I can understand the TFR. Is AF1 accompanied by fighters for protection?
No its not. Nothing in the sky over the US is going to be a threat no reason to send fighters and if there was a threat it would be intercepted WAY before it reach the shores of the US. That fatty can handle itself with its defensive abilities
If you fly in the TFR, then fighter jets will turn up at you side to escort you away if you don't get out of it quickly.
I have heard multiple myths that they do have an escort to a specific distance, I hear that jets are on standby for a rapid response, who knows honestly
A 747 is quite a bit faster then the vast majority of relatively affordable general aviation aircraft. Don’t think they would need to worry much about avoiding a madman in a Cessna 172, or Cirrus SR22. Would only need to worry about airliners and corporate jets who would all be grounded or well outside the TFR zone.
I can't image AF1 not having a bubble of restricted air space around it. AFBs always have alert squadrons on standby within minutes and I would guess that when AF1 is in the vicinity of AFBs, the alert status is heightened.
So ideally, when an aircraft or any other airborne object enters the restricted airspace around AF1.. AF1 would take evasive action and the alert fighters are scrambled and vectored to intercept.
Of course I could be completely wrong, I'm just a random guy theorizing what I would expect to be protocol.
I love how air force one is followed by a Russian Oligarch's Gulfstream (LX-GVI)
This may be a dumb question, but is it standard to spell waypoints like he did at 12:31? Or would they usually say "whiskey - alpha - ..."?
The ramp freeze is the worst part that nothing can move on the ground even
why dont they just land them on a military airbase? why would you need all those delays for 1 plane?
Because there isn't a military airbase capable of accommodating Air Force One within a reasonable distance of every major airport.
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Public servant should just take the fucking bus. But for the king, hold everything and know your place.
The ultimate call sign Air Force 1
Rather have used "speedbird -Concorde one"
At the end, did AF1 cross a runway without permission.
I realise that, with TFR, nothing else is moving and AF1 may not need permission, but there is no reason not to ask.
He gave him permission in his taxi instructions. Since nothing was moving he just told him to go ahead and cross so he didn't have to hold short and request.
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I love how the pilots are given 10 minutes are all rushing to GTFO. the mad rush is crazy
Typo at 7:53. Great video
So if AF1 was landing with the TFR and lets just say there's an emergency landing needs to be at the airport, how would that go?
Modeltrains160 - Starwarsrocks160 Aircraft in Distress are always Priority. Whether AF1 is nearby or not, that's irrelevant. That's probably one of the few cases where you will see someone else get priority over AF1.
Sinci AF1 is not in emergency it always climb back.
Negative! If the in flt emergency was unable to divert to another field or airport and AF1 is democrat he has to kiss his ass goodbye. If AF1 is Republican they would advise the tower to give priority to the emergency and state they would be 'on the go' and to advise when clear and allowed to land.
D. Geo petty partisanship is fucking retarded. Especially when youre trying to paint a party that hates anyone not rich as caring about an emergency. Theyve been ignoring the opioid crisis for years. But hey keep thinking a bunch of rich people care about your stupid ass. That'll fix the country
you are a moron Your idiotic rhetoric is a good sign your on opiates unless it's just naturally you, the moron. That name befits you nicely.
Victor Quebec Bravo Lima Alpha ... worst callsign in history. #correction
Does AF1 get TFR even if no one important is on board? For example, the plane going somewhere for repairs?
AF1 only operates as AF1 when the president is onboard.
Underling VASAviation's answer, when Nixon resigned, he was in the air in Air Force One when Ford was sworn in. AF1 redesignated itself as SAM27000 (the tail number of the aircraft being used) in mid air when Nixon ceased to be President.
Reference: www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/us/politics/17albertazzie.html?_r=2&hpw=&pagewanted=print
I will say the blue and whites are beautiful inside
13:03 my oh my