1990 Pontiac Grand Prix Turbo | Retro Review

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  • Mean looking versions of corporate platforms were Pontiac's specialty at one point. This Grand Prix Turbo is certainly proof of that. It's not too late GM! BRING PONTIAC BACK
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  • @atomsmash100
    @atomsmash100 Před 5 lety +193

    Hard to believe Pontiac was #3 in sales when this episode originally aired. A shame that GM squandered the division and then ultimately shuttered it.

    • @hakeemsd70m
      @hakeemsd70m Před 4 lety +21

      The Red Arrow had some great cars during their final years, the Firebird/Trans Am, Bonneville SSEI/GXP, 04 GTO, Solstice, and G8 GT just to name a few, and I liked the G6 Coupe & Convertible...but anyways, GM chose to keep Buick because they sell so well in China, effectively selling out the American customers to China.

    • @quincywashington4395
      @quincywashington4395 Před 3 lety +13

      The wrong people are running Ford and GM now

    • @lifes40123
      @lifes40123 Před 3 lety +11

      @@hakeemsd70m
      Chinese buy american cars
      Americans buy japanese cars
      What a world we live in

    • @williamegler8771
      @williamegler8771 Před 2 lety +5

      @@hakeemsd70m American buyers turned their back on American vehicles.
      The Chinese embraced them and bought them in the hundreds of thousands.
      GM did exactly what any other company would have done.
      It concentrated on the profitable market and left the non profitable one.
      I bet a majority of people slamming GM and boo hooing the demise of Pontiac are driving Toyota and Honda products.

    • @NYPATRIOTBX
      @NYPATRIOTBX Před 2 lety +5

      @@williamegler8771 Americans turned their backs on the big three because they allowed the bean counters to build cars that didn’t last. I’ve been a mechanic for 22 years, grew up on chevy small blocks, still own an s-10 with an iron duke and a 2000 z28, and I also own both a Toyota and an Acura, why you ask? Because they don’t break down like GM products. Can’t blame people for wanting a car that doesn’t need work every few months, especially when they are on a budget and not mechanically inclined.

  • @voided3
    @voided3 Před 5 lety +477

    "Our only complaint is a squirmy feeling in the back end when the brake pedal is pushed to the limit." Perhaps this is because the rear wheels left the ground during the braking test at 2:48!

    • @deansapp4635
      @deansapp4635 Před 5 lety +30

      Good call, I missed it until i read your comment and looked again.

    • @PrinceMoonbeam
      @PrinceMoonbeam Před 5 lety +37

      I noticed that too! I think it's the first time I've seen that happen in one of these MotorWeek videos.

    • @DustinBruce31
      @DustinBruce31 Před 5 lety +21

      Ed Ricco Music like a dog lifting its leg next to a fire hydrant.

    • @McBeamer94
      @McBeamer94 Před 5 lety +11

      I somehow imagined what would happen if the driver cut the wheel while braking! I think he would lose control!

    • @Heartbeat1991
      @Heartbeat1991 Před 5 lety +35

      I have had 4 of these. Still have one left. The brakes are usually what puts them in the scrap yard. Can’t find the parts. (Partly because I hoard them all). But when they work, that heavy car stops hard.

  • @porscheguy09
    @porscheguy09 Před 5 lety +100

    When I was in high school one of our gym teachers bought a brand new 1992 Grand Prix GTP that was black with the gold wheels. It was a sweet car for the time.

    • @vicaras1
      @vicaras1 Před 5 lety +9

      I had a 97 gtp and now it's my brother's and it still gets up and goes ! 3.8 supercharged.

    • @markk3652
      @markk3652 Před 5 lety +8

      When I was a high school gym teacher, I bought a 1992 grand prix turbo in black with the gold wheels. R. Lange begged me to take him as my date to prom, so I did, he looked great in that gown!

    • @Stressless2023
      @Stressless2023 Před 5 lety

      @@markk3652 LMAO

    • @jiggity76
      @jiggity76 Před 4 lety +1

      Very well said. I think people are getting HUD mixed up with the touch screen systems that displayed mileage, navigation, climate, radio, and other various functions on a TV like display. HUD or Heads Up Display projected information onto the windshield such as the speedometer and other simple functions so that the driver didn't have to look down at the cluster to see vital engine functions and the MPH. Yes, once again, the Cutlass Supreme/General Motors was the FIRST automobile to offer this feature in 1988 on 50 1988 Cutlass Supreme Pace Car convertibles. Many were destroyed but some did survive due to weak body structures when GM recalled them back. The SECOND vehicle to offer HUD was the Pontiac Grand Prix/General Motors in 1989, the Pontiac Grand Prix Turbo. There were two HUD versions offered, the first one used a taller body unit on top of the dash and the adjuster for the height of the information projected onto the windshield in the 89-90 Turbo Grand Prix's was mounted on the unit itself. The same unit found on the 88-90 Cutlass Supreme had the adjuster mounted on the left side of the dash/steering column. The second generation HUD which came out in 91-93 on the Grand Prix and the 91-94 Cutlass Supreme was a shorter unit and had the adjuster mounted on the right side of the dash/steering column on the Grand Prix, and down in the center dash bezel underneath the climate controls/ashtray compartment on the Cutlass Supreme. The color of the font or information displayed onto the windshield is a bluish green color on both models which matched well to the dash light color on the Cutlass but didn't match the orange dash lights on the Grand Prix. Could have been a cost saving idea from GM or the fact that the human eye picks up the color green better than orange and therefor has a bigger safety advantage.

    • @retiredsnowbunnyhunterx5106
      @retiredsnowbunnyhunterx5106 Před 4 lety +2

      @@vicaras1 i miss my 96 bonneville ssei

  • @MatrixDiscovery
    @MatrixDiscovery Před 5 lety +104

    When GM killed the OLDS and Pontiac, they basically killed off the car section at GM.

    • @devintariel3769
      @devintariel3769 Před 3 lety +10

      Not to sound insane but if the people who decided on that happening were mysteriously killed in a car crash I would not be upset.

    • @nbain66
      @nbain66 Před 2 lety +5

      @@devintariel3769 Oldsmobile has always drawn me in. They've been gone almost my whole life. Even an Alero draws my eye when it goes by

    • @RockandrollNegro
      @RockandrollNegro Před 2 lety +6

      GM went bankrupt due to poor quality and corporate mismanagement. If Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn, Saab and Hummer were actually making any money, they would have probably remained alive at GM. They almost killed GMC and Buick as well, but Buick sells great in China and GMC sells Denalis to people who can't afford an Escalade.
      GM is dead. 100% of their product line is either manufactured in China or is a rebadged Asian vehicle. Their factories in North America are now "assembly plants," because they no longer meet the legal definition of a factory. Even the supposedly "American" Alpha platform Camaros and Cadillacs are manufactured in China and assembled in North America from knockdown kits.
      GM has been dead for 40 years; they've just been surviving in zombie form thanks to Chinese millionaires and US tax dollar subsidies.

    • @rodmunch69
      @rodmunch69 Před 2 lety +2

      I hate they killed Pontiac, because they were the only ones doing something different. I just hate how much we don't have a modern Firebird - because you can find Camaro conversions and the Firebird skin on that body just looks so much better. Then you had interesting cars like the Saturn Sky / Pontiac Solstice, which just aren't made anymore. The Pontiac GTO and G8 were awesome cars, when Chevy did it, they jacked up the price so high that it didn't make any sense for a sedan being sold at a Chevy dealership. Overall its been a real cluster. Oh, and I forgot that Buick exists -- and that's a real issue for them since most people feel that way.

  • @frankburns8871
    @frankburns8871 Před 5 lety +264

    Head-up display in 1990? On a Pontiac?! Pretty freaking impressive.

    • @Lrules364
      @Lrules364 Před 5 lety +15

      Frank Burns Also available on the Oldsmobile Tornado Troféo, which costed about the same in 1990. The one I own retailed for $25k new.

    • @davidg4026
      @davidg4026 Před 5 lety +16

      Also an option on the '89 Nissan 240SX.

    • @cadillacdevile
      @cadillacdevile Před 5 lety +8

      @@Lrules364 I believe the Troféo also had a touch screen at this time as well, if I am not mistaken

    • @ymmij1973
      @ymmij1973 Před 5 lety +3

      @@Lrules364 I loved the look of those toronados. I think the Corvette had a type of keyless entry central locking available in the early 90s.

    • @jerrybarrax5618
      @jerrybarrax5618 Před 5 lety +10

      Pontiac was actually the first brand to offer this feature. I think it debuted on the 6000 STE or Bonneville SSE.

  • @67Bigsby
    @67Bigsby Před 5 lety +170

    I love the Retro Reviews... Thank you for all the posts!

    • @rars0n
      @rars0n Před 5 lety +3

      I used to watch Motorweek all the time as a kid (it was a show produced locally in Maryland and aired on PBS). It's fun to go back and watch reviews of these older cars when brand new. Plus, I started watching probably right around 1990 or so, so the older episodes are even more interesting, as are the ones I missed when they originally aired.
      There's such a huge, interesting back catalog of these great reviews, I'm so glad someone decided to upload these to CZcams. I can lose DAYS watching nothing but Retro Reviews.

    • @elonmust7470
      @elonmust7470 Před 3 lety

      @@itsjohnsonjackson I lived close by in Fairfax VA in 1990

    • @fernandorocha8459
      @fernandorocha8459 Před rokem

      Retro reviews is my program diary

  • @mysock351C
    @mysock351C Před 5 lety +200

    Wow. Weird to see one that's not all ragged out and missing most of its clear-coat.

    • @AremStefaniaK
      @AremStefaniaK Před 5 lety +7

      working on stuff like that on my unit. never seen a windshield leak and a roof rusting out so badly.

    • @elonmust7470
      @elonmust7470 Před 4 lety +9

      Yeah all of these cars are meth head specials these days

    • @piusg
      @piusg Před 3 lety +2

      @Chad Wilkins I had a 95 GTP and miss it.

    • @aaronp9835
      @aaronp9835 Před 3 lety +4

      Thays what happens to a 33 year old Pontiac lol

    • @OhioBoy1440
      @OhioBoy1440 Před 3 lety +1

      @@aaronp9835 Where do you get 33 years old? Are you from 2023?

  • @thebrokenglasskids5196
    @thebrokenglasskids5196 Před 5 lety +51

    2:48
    Pontiac: We build Excitement.
    *rear wheels literally leave the ground during emergency braking*

    • @mmiller1188
      @mmiller1188 Před 5 lety +7

      That explains the squirlley feeling ...

    • @_baller
      @_baller Před 5 lety +1

      I bet the rear brakes locked up and made it jump

    • @tony7287
      @tony7287 Před 4 lety

      😃😃😃

    • @jblyon2
      @jblyon2 Před 4 lety +4

      @Joshua Knighten "Well you see, after the accident the doctors had no choice but to replace my nose with the Mute button embedded in my face from the steering wheel"

    • @leomonster1973
      @leomonster1973 Před 4 lety +4

      Well that is exciting

  • @Acc0rd79
    @Acc0rd79 Před 5 lety +21

    I miss Pontiac, I would love to see them brought back and stick to sporty models throughout!

    • @Kgio-2112
      @Kgio-2112 Před 2 lety +1

      You can still buy a used one

    • @hakeemsd70m
      @hakeemsd70m Před rokem

      @@Kgio-2112 Sadly they're becoming harder to find for sale. I'll be honest though, I still see the final gen Grand Am almost daily here in the Ohio Valley. So you're right, they're out here but people just aren't selling them. I was surprised to find my 2005 Grand Prix GT.

  • @tony7287
    @tony7287 Před 4 lety +43

    That interior cockpit was designed by Michael Knight....

  • @HelloRoad
    @HelloRoad Před 5 lety +104

    Buttons! So many buttons on the steering wheel!!

    • @cadillacdevile
      @cadillacdevile Před 5 lety +9

      That was their signature :)

    • @billgateskilledmyuncle23
      @billgateskilledmyuncle23 Před 5 lety +21

      Imagine if it had an airbag. Then in a wreck they would find your face impaled with plastic buttons. It would look like you motorboated a bucket of Legos.

    • @thetinpin
      @thetinpin Před 5 lety +8

      @@billgateskilledmyuncle23 ... or waffle iron.

    • @mrdaykurutakuchannel
      @mrdaykurutakuchannel Před 5 lety +1

      And awkward position too fot the buttons even for the horns.

    • @hakeemsd70m
      @hakeemsd70m Před 5 lety

      Like the Banshee!

  • @jareknowak8712
    @jareknowak8712 Před 5 lety +63

    Im from Europe and Pontiac is my favorite Am-car brand.
    Still remember Knight Rider, when i was young. Firebird of that period is still the best looking front end on a production car for me. Pontiac and Olds have something special in design, factor-x. What a shame that they kill Pontiac.

    • @adamlemus7585
      @adamlemus7585 Před 5 lety +4

      Jarek Nowak
      It’s one of our most underrated brands.

    • @wiseguy9202
      @wiseguy9202 Před 5 lety +1

      Definitely not a fan of Pontiac but Kit was a great car.

    • @adamlemus7585
      @adamlemus7585 Před 5 lety +2

      Wise Guy
      I remember I went to Universal Studios where you can talk to kit
      A lot of times they wouldn’t admit that it was a Pontiac just a Kight Industries such and such
      One time this guy was on point. When I asked if he was related to the firebird he said that Knight Industries in order to offset his development costs licensed his likeness to General Motors. Equated it Jorden and his shoe deal with niki.
      I was like dude they aren’t paying you enough

    • @rars0n
      @rars0n Před 5 lety +2

      @@adamlemus7585 Knight Industries Two-Thousand (KITT)
      That's funny, good cover story licensing it to GM.

    • @rars0n
      @rars0n Před 5 lety +3

      Jarek, the really stupid thing was GM decided to kill the brand right as they started making their best cars in recent years (same with Olds). You had the GTO, which was a great V8 RWD coupe based off the Holden Monaro, and the Pontiac Solstice, a great roadster based on the Opel GT. Oh, and we can't forget about the G8. And none of these cars were beaten with the ugly stick by adorning them with way too much body cladding like Pontiac used to do all the time in the past.
      As for Oldsmobile, the Alero and Aurora were great cars, and I thought surely the sign of a new resurgence of Oldsmobile making products worth buying, but again, shortly after, the plug was pulled.

  • @davidaubin3902
    @davidaubin3902 Před 5 lety +61

    6:44 John: IT BLISTERS DOWN THE ROAD SCREAMING, I'M EXCITING! LOL

    • @artbyty
      @artbyty Před 5 lety +6

      Please clap

    • @Marcus_Pilot
      @Marcus_Pilot Před 5 lety +2

      @@artbyty Hilarious and relevant 😂

    • @herman452
      @herman452 Před 5 lety +2

      Yeah - all 205 horsepower. . . .

    • @wullahblack6452
      @wullahblack6452 Před 5 lety +2

      @@herman452 That was a lot back then you goon.

    • @herman452
      @herman452 Před 5 lety +1

      @@wullahblack6452 That wouldn't have been a lot in 1956. Spare me your drivel.

  • @DoubleSmackJacksSmackAttack

    Pontiac was leading the way in interior control button usage

  • @clyde2604
    @clyde2604 Před 5 lety +83

    Great Car! With Head Up Display in 1990!

    • @AdamAdamHDL
      @AdamAdamHDL Před 5 lety

      In a car it is fancy... But the technology is from the 50s.

    • @AdamAdamHDL
      @AdamAdamHDL Před 5 lety +3

      @Donald trick Trump Has STD's from Stormy D.
      It's a cool car. If I had one today I'd be proud of it.

    • @AdamAdamHDL
      @AdamAdamHDL Před 5 lety +2

      @Donald trick Trump Has STD's from Stormy D.
      That's a lot of kit....by contrast i'l never buy a brand new car because I take all my cars through the forest and get them banged up. But my current car detects people speeding behind me and warns me not to change lane into their path... That's fancy.

  • @vollste
    @vollste Před 5 lety +133

    Incredible...I’ve never seen a car lift rear tires off the ground while braking.

    • @whodahellru8124
      @whodahellru8124 Před 5 lety +18

      Steve V. that was scary to watch! That car definitely needs higher spring rates and more bound dampening on the front! No wonder why it was able to rotate in corners with a throttle off in put.

    • @jkmsaturn
      @jkmsaturn Před 5 lety +6

      That must be some sticky tires, also!

    • @AremStefaniaK
      @AremStefaniaK Před 5 lety +1

      it's called gymkhana autocross racing xD

    • @youngblood23rb
      @youngblood23rb Před 4 lety +5

      Same, I have never seen a car do a Stopy before

    • @danielhaskins519
      @danielhaskins519 Před 4 lety

      😂😂

  • @grunkohlaktionar7474
    @grunkohlaktionar7474 Před 5 lety +268

    Bring Pontiac back!

    • @capybaravangogh7427
      @capybaravangogh7427 Před 5 lety +6

      It cant because gm signed a contract to goverment when they ask for a debt to the government if im right if it is the government and the change is they must reduce car companies/shut down their other car companies FOREVER.The government do that do reduce cars in roads in the future and less more roeads to make too but that gives Toyota and friends advantages now.The Dodge now is a try hard Pontiac based on my observations but I think they just removed dodge instead of pontiac because pontiac is better than Dodge.If pontiac company is still on going today it will probably faster than Dodge and GM already have a car company to fight Buggati's speed

    • @jGRite
      @jGRite Před 5 lety +46

      ...let's trade Buick for Pontiac.

    • @hank1556
      @hank1556 Před 5 lety +11

      @@jGRite they wouldn't do that, Buick makes too much money in asian markets

    • @pattycheeze
      @pattycheeze Před 5 lety +22

      @@capybaravangogh7427 Fuck the government. I hope some rich guy with big oil money from Texas buys the rights to Pontiac and brings it back as a separate entity from GM.

    • @DisneyMusicVideos
      @DisneyMusicVideos Před 5 lety +13

      @@jGRite Agreed! GM should have kept Pontiac instead of Buick.

  • @generalzod7959
    @generalzod7959 Před 4 lety +24

    It shoulda had the 3.8 v6 engine. That would've made it into a screamer!

    • @hnlpharmd
      @hnlpharmd Před měsícem

      The Grand Prix did get the 3.8 in 1997, and you could have it in either normally aspirated or supercharged form.

  • @mperez9745
    @mperez9745 Před 3 lety +10

    60-0 in 112 feet was very very good even by 2020 standards.

    • @AlainHubert
      @AlainHubert Před rokem

      Yeah, to the point of almost flipping the car over! 😆

  • @blue06lt
    @blue06lt Před 5 lety +109

    $25,560 base price in 1990 = $49,225 adjusted for inflation.

    • @jareknowak8712
      @jareknowak8712 Před 5 lety +11

      I did not know that it was so expensive.

    • @Heartbeat1991
      @Heartbeat1991 Před 5 lety +10

      Sticker on mine was almost $27k in 89.

    • @roddydykes7053
      @roddydykes7053 Před 5 lety +15

      Blue06LT sounds like tons of money now but you have to consider the 80s superior salaries back then too

    • @blue06lt
      @blue06lt Před 5 lety +11

      Roddy Dykes I was a kid in the 1980s so I have no idea who was paid what back then. Although with the current trend of money staying at the top so executives can have eight figure salaries while the average joe scrapes by, that doesn’t surprise me.

    • @Heartbeat1991
      @Heartbeat1991 Před 5 lety +6

      Donald trick Trump Has STD's from Stormy D. Few grand more you could have a vette.

  • @silvastyles512
    @silvastyles512 Před 2 lety +5

    I'm in awe at how lush that interior looks for a 90's Pontiac. You won't find seats like that nowadays unless you're driving a very high end luxury car. Quite impressive!

    • @80s_Boombox_Collector
      @80s_Boombox_Collector Před 10 měsíci +1

      Now the question is how long did those seat adjusters last, especially the bolsters. Always a problem spot, even on many Japanese cars.

  • @bryankerbow7871
    @bryankerbow7871 Před 3 lety +5

    Lets see... Rear wheels leave the ground under hard braking, a turbo v6 with only 205hp, more buttons in the cockpit than the spaceX shuttle, a clunky auto slushbox transmission, and a seatbelt that tries to tangle and strangle you... But dammit I still want one. Ah the late 80s. Such a cool time for cars. All the experimentation that was done, most of which was ahead of its time was great!

  • @starxlr7863
    @starxlr7863 Před 4 lety +3

    Thanks for uploading this car!! Someone else removed it a while ago and I've been wanting to watch this again. My next door neighbor had two of these Pontiac's that they bought brand new and had the two for several years. My family had the Bonneville SSE and an SSEi. I wish I was able to have bought at least one of them to have today. These are definitely under rated and another forgotten about car.

  • @immature1990
    @immature1990 Před 5 lety +9

    I miss my 02 GrandPrix it was one of the best cars I had I wish I would of still kept it till this day

  • @DavesGenny
    @DavesGenny Před 5 lety +84

    25K was pricey back then

    • @rars0n
      @rars0n Před 5 lety +4

      You could buy an Eclipse turbo for something around $15k back then, which was a faster car despite having two fewer cylinders and less horsepower.

    • @wiibaron
      @wiibaron Před 5 lety +2

      You could get 2 '90 Daytona ES's that I just watched for that loot. And smoke the tires in braking too.

    • @davidaubin3902
      @davidaubin3902 Před 4 lety +3

      Or a Ford Probe LX V6 for a bit less

    • @charleslowe522
      @charleslowe522 Před 4 lety +1

      I only paid $42k for supercrew cab 2.7L twin turbo F150 with 302A package or whatever it's called. Has a rear locking differential and has a transfer case in it. With 93 octane, I can it 60 in 5.9 seconds. I wasn't aware there was a turbo Grand Prix in 90. I bet the 3.1L block was a weak as POS that would split if you add 20 more horsepower.

    • @extremedrivr
      @extremedrivr Před 4 lety +2

      @@charleslowe522 You say that when you drive a Fix or Repair Daily, Driver Return On Foot vehicle?? LOL

  • @m.stewart7208
    @m.stewart7208 Před 5 lety +19

    What a beautiful car! I LOVE IT!

  • @theKevronHarris
    @theKevronHarris Před 5 lety +41

    I Want to be Rich by Calloway at 5:22 playing on the stereo!!!📻🎶
    Very nice, nostalgic 1990s song!!!! 🦅👍🤙😎

    • @beulahboi
      @beulahboi Před 5 lety +5

      la la lalalala ooh

    • @curt.p.4363
      @curt.p.4363 Před 5 lety +1

      Good catch!

    • @theKevronHarris
      @theKevronHarris Před 5 lety +1

      @@curt.p.4363 Thanks buddy!

    • @theKevronHarris
      @theKevronHarris Před 5 lety +3

      @@curt.p.4363 70s, 80s, 90s, and early 2000s music is better than today's garbage.

    • @curt.p.4363
      @curt.p.4363 Před 5 lety +1

      I agree on that, pop music has really gotten lame and redundant!

  • @ILovedThe90s1
    @ILovedThe90s1 Před 5 lety +7

    And it still looks good today!

  • @JetsetMikey
    @JetsetMikey Před 5 lety +4

    What a beautiful machine. I miss Pontiac. What an awesome brand.

  • @RockwoodJoe
    @RockwoodJoe Před 5 lety +55

    Hair gel, Raybans, and a mustache were required accessories.

    • @01trsmar
      @01trsmar Před 5 lety +1

      Gel was more of a mid to late 1990's thing ! Heck,I still use some otherwise my hair is crazy !

    • @RockwoodJoe
      @RockwoodJoe Před 5 lety

      @@01trsmar Gel never goes out of style!

    • @elonmust7470
      @elonmust7470 Před 4 lety

      Crack as well

    • @RockwoodJoe
      @RockwoodJoe Před 4 lety +2

      @@elonmust7470 Yes, the perfectly level glove box door that opens up was a hold over from the GM coke days.

  • @dougsmith1483
    @dougsmith1483 Před 4 lety +7

    In 1990 this was cutting edge in styling , and with heads up display, McLaren tuning, turbo power. Not all 90s GM cars were junk. Japanese mid size coupes were no match for this thing. Nice car

  • @takeomack2782
    @takeomack2782 Před 5 lety

    I LOVE these videos! Keep up the GREAT work!!! 👍👍❤️❤️

  • @OnlyNotes
    @OnlyNotes Před 5 lety +23

    When you hear "steering wheel mounted controls" you would think the buttons would be in comfortable reach of your fingers while driving, *not in the middle of the wheel.*

    • @AremStefaniaK
      @AremStefaniaK Před 5 lety +6

      thats just a typical european lack of size of hands xD got french hands in there, boy?

    • @warrenny
      @warrenny Před 3 lety +1

      Jack, I agree; in my mind I could see myself banging on those buttons as if it were a bongo.

  • @805NAVE
    @805NAVE Před 5 lety +5

    I literally just saw a white one of these last week! Driving !

  • @justmy2cents_
    @justmy2cents_ Před 4 lety +1

    This car was way ahead of it's time! I owned the non-turbo version with the 3.4ltr engine & man how I miss this car! I still have these exact seats in my garage nearly 30yrs ago now for sale!!

  • @OLDS98
    @OLDS98 Před 5 lety +9

    Thank you once again more more GM footage! It is appreciated. I forgot about this one. I enjoyed this one too. I hope you still have more to come for GM and Lincoln. Did they have film any Holdens? I am looking forward to seeing The Ninety Eight, Toronado, and many others from 1981- until now if it has bot been posted.

  • @risingembersgaming7740
    @risingembersgaming7740 Před 5 lety +8

    I just like how these looked, I want one

    • @jkmsaturn
      @jkmsaturn Před 5 lety

      Love the FOUR bucket seats, also!

    • @TEDdotcom
      @TEDdotcom Před 5 lety

      The outside looks great, the inside looks good but the instrument panel switches and other doodads look flimsy and too busy though.

    • @AremStefaniaK
      @AremStefaniaK Před 5 lety

      thats because it looks like a 200 buck R32 Skyline:D

    • @noahh914
      @noahh914 Před 4 lety

      It looks like Mercedes sent a W124 coupe to GM to americanize it. And I love it. It looks so badass.

  • @tuowl0564
    @tuowl0564 Před 4 lety +3

    This body style had a good amount of success in NASCAR in the late 80's and early 90's.

  • @hank1556
    @hank1556 Před 5 lety +82

    Pontiac was GM's best brand. they were always hurting the camaro and corvette poor wittle feelings so GM was always shitting on Pontiac

    • @bw8632
      @bw8632 Před 5 lety +5

      Trust me you’re not wrong, but more extensive in reality. Only place that seemed to hate it’s employees and customers alike. Everyone lived in fear of losing their job. Engineers often ignored. Unproductive meetings that you can’t imagine. Sad, because there were some talented folks who knew their stuff.

    • @Exzachtly_ND
      @Exzachtly_ND Před 5 lety +2

      @@DatMat Pontiac did in fact make their own version of the Corvette, GM declined the first concept of said car, due to its lightweight body style (weighed as much as a Miata) and rear mid engined turbo 4 banger design. The car was still made and outsold its Japanese rival, the MR2, but eventually failed under GM's crushing weight on Pontiac. So, 35 years later, the Fiero is nothing more than a rare to find "what if?". Like "What if GM had allowed the Fiero to be built with Pontiac's newly designed turbo 4 banger like the japanese do so well?" Judging by Pontiac's figures, that new engine in the new car would have most certainly wiped the floor with the Corvettes of the time. In fact, that original concept could have very well put the car in elite status, with Ferrari like looks and Ferrari like power, but from a tiny, lightweight car. Instead, the car got a 98 HP Iron Duke not designed for a low 2 seater, car fires that ruined the reputation(entirely not Pontiac's fault, the engine should have never ever been in that car), and an estimated 45 mpg from a car that needs all it has to beat a Prius, maybe.

    • @roninkraut6873
      @roninkraut6873 Před 5 lety +2

      ruen125
      It was such a royal shame. Pontiac finally got the Fiero right and then it was killed. For being a car parts bin car, it was still something special. Pontiac deserved a better parent company. I wish they could have gone independent or maybe got bought out by another company. I know this is blasphemy but imagine a trans am based on the Mustang platform with Pontiac styling cues

    • @captainmorgan5449
      @captainmorgan5449 Před 4 lety

      @Frank White
      I owned two Fieros: Mint 1987 GT and a 1986 GT. All stock with the 2.8 v6. A girl hit my 87 and totaled it right before I was going to put it in storage. My 86 was not mint and I sold it in 2006. I wish I would have kept it.
      I enjoyed the Fieros more than my 1976 Datsun 280 Z. GMC= Good Man's Car.

  • @HelloRoad
    @HelloRoad Před 5 lety +6

    Yessssss! These are actually pretty cheap to obtain now-mine was $1k. But prepare to fix/replace the ABS system because they all fail!

    • @Heartbeat1991
      @Heartbeat1991 Před 5 lety +1

      Hello Road / Ethan Tufts the vacuum swaps are popular on them. I prefer the PowerMaster.

    • @Hipas_Account
      @Hipas_Account Před 5 lety

      i bought a Sedan model here in Finland for 300€, it a freeze plug issue, still havent gotten around to getting it fixed, but in every other way its mint, mint interior, and apart from a few minor scratches on the paint, its Bueno.

  • @boss12
    @boss12 Před 5 lety +32

    W-Bodies should have been RWD. They’d be way more popular nowadays.

    • @trevagraham1605
      @trevagraham1605 Před 5 lety +3

      boss12 Agreed!

    • @chada75
      @chada75 Před 5 lety +3

      Exactly! Especially the Olds-Bodied Cup cars.

    • @alans.4167
      @alans.4167 Před 5 lety +2

      I agree. In the 80's the G body Cutlass was a huge seller, that would have continued if they kept a rwd Cutlass. Anybody wanting front wheel drive already had the Ciera, Calais/Achieva, Toronado, and the bigger cars to cross shop with. A rear wheel drive Cutlass would have stood out.

    • @cwb7143
      @cwb7143 Před 5 lety +2

      No kidding even though I had the 97 GTP it really was disappointing for the wide body to be front wheel drive

    • @AremStefaniaK
      @AremStefaniaK Před 5 lety +1

      If Luminas were RWD, couple thousand more people would be dead or injured over the years

  • @keithjackson286
    @keithjackson286 Před 5 lety +7

    Great car! Never could figure out why GM didn't put a turbo or the supercharged 3800 in this car

    • @joes.7536
      @joes.7536 Před 5 lety

      Not sure. I think I turbo setup is more expensive to manufacturer. There are more components, an intercooler required even in low boost, and harder to tune. Alot harder to tune without modern wideband oxygen sensors like they use now on turbos.

    • @Heartbeat1991
      @Heartbeat1991 Před 5 lety +1

      This car is turbo charged.

    • @86twin
      @86twin Před 5 lety

      They supercharged them later. Pontiac Grand Prix GTP and Buick Regal GS and I think the Park Avenue Ultra.

    • @joes.7536
      @joes.7536 Před 5 lety

      @@86twin they did but that was the 3800 motor.

    • @kyoakland
      @kyoakland Před 5 lety

      they did put a turbo in it

  • @MrHugawa
    @MrHugawa Před 5 lety +1

    I had a blue 1992 Grand Prix GTP.... luv'd it...looked fast sitting still, nicest looking cat that I ever owned.

  • @themaritimegirl
    @themaritimegirl Před 5 lety +2

    One of my favorite cars, particularly the ones with the ripped-off-from-Mercury front lightbar.

  • @archangele1
    @archangele1 Před 5 lety +7

    Oh my GOD I forgot about those amazingly irritating automatic seat belts.
    In fact it is why I ended up buying a car without those
    darn things.

  • @Mgoblagulkablong
    @Mgoblagulkablong Před 5 lety +72

    Is that Hoovie's car?

    • @E46_Lenker
      @E46_Lenker Před 5 lety +4

      Yes

    • @TurboMan942
      @TurboMan942 Před 5 lety +13

      Yes, the same Hoovie that will build a 75,000 sq ft garage to house 30 year old pieces of crap like this car

    • @oliverdelgado6952
      @oliverdelgado6952 Před 5 lety

      Lol looks like it

    • @Mgoblagulkablong
      @Mgoblagulkablong Před 5 lety +10

      @jason9022 you must be fun at parties...

    • @TurboMan942
      @TurboMan942 Před 5 lety +1

      @jason9022 You're correct, but that doesn't excuse Maclaren for putting their name on a GM W-body

  • @mrincredible5492
    @mrincredible5492 Před 5 lety +1

    Brings back memorys had one in high school

  • @cakecard
    @cakecard Před 5 lety

    My all time fav car, especially in high school!!

  • @stevend3753
    @stevend3753 Před 5 lety +3

    Holy shit! When they hit the brakes it nose dived so hard it pull its rear wheels off the ground for a moment!!!

  • @IAmSidTheRealKid
    @IAmSidTheRealKid Před 5 lety +6

    R.I.P. Pontiac.

  • @catjudo1
    @catjudo1 Před 3 lety +1

    I miss Pontiac. My first car was a '70 Firebird. What a fun car for a high schooler and college student.

  • @RedLP5000S
    @RedLP5000S Před 4 lety

    My family had the ultimate Grand Prix GTP with the 3.4 litre. Black on saddle interior with gold honeycomb wheels. Absolutely stunning.

  • @anonymoususer6683
    @anonymoususer6683 Před 5 lety +8

    Ugh the wheels were always hard to clean!

    • @Lrules364
      @Lrules364 Před 5 lety

      Anonymous User As a current crosslace owner for the last decade, holy shit are you correct. Absolute bullshit to clean.

    • @JohnSmith-ww2pm
      @JohnSmith-ww2pm Před 5 lety

      Especially because the one I bought was from Kansas and Ohio, so there was a lot of road salt in them...

    • @kyoakland
      @kyoakland Před 5 lety

      I had them on my 87 Grand National and you're not lying I had to spray an extra coat of clear on there so I can wipe it off easier

    • @LynxStarAuto
      @LynxStarAuto Před 5 lety

      Use a parts cleaner brush

    • @AremStefaniaK
      @AremStefaniaK Před 5 lety

      i'll take that. But trying to find oem wheels. love them.

  • @steveespinola7652
    @steveespinola7652 Před 3 lety +3

    R.I.P Pontiac 😥

  • @erickpina2771
    @erickpina2771 Před 5 lety +1

    I remember when I was a teenager my neighbor had one and I used to dream driving it.

  • @jackjohnson7396
    @jackjohnson7396 Před 4 lety +1

    I remember those horror show seat belts. So popular, they disappeared forever.

  • @V8AmericanMuscleCar
    @V8AmericanMuscleCar Před 5 lety +9

    I want one! 😃

  • @richardlorith8256
    @richardlorith8256 Před 5 lety +6

    Pontiac of the Early-90's made some of the best looking cars

    • @OhioBoy1440
      @OhioBoy1440 Před 3 lety

      No, no they didn’t. Cheap looking with hideous body cladding.

  • @Valkyry5
    @Valkyry5 Před 5 lety +1

    No sound..
    I use to have this car, but in the non-turbo variant. It was So needy. There was something wrong with it every month. If I road 2 months without a peep, i actually got really nervous. Fortunately, there was a Great guy who was a Grand Prix enthusiast who lived blocks from me fixed it right up...every month. 'Jay, you are the Man!'
    Went Japanese since then.

    • @roninkraut6873
      @roninkraut6873 Před 5 lety

      Valkyry5
      Unfortunately, that’s been my experience with GM. You probably made the right decision to go foreign as a great number of people did. I went the other way and stuck to Ford

  • @Stressless2023
    @Stressless2023 Před 5 lety +1

    The movie "Josh and Sam" made me one of these Grand Prix's when I was younger lol.

  • @trooper427ss
    @trooper427ss Před 5 lety +3

    2:48 rear wheels come off the ground! Haha

    • @01trsmar
      @01trsmar Před 5 lety

      Thats how they tested cars then..Porsche 911's wheels always came off the ground in older tests !

  • @TheHelado36
    @TheHelado36 Před 5 lety +7

    This car is sexy !

  • @blackericdenice
    @blackericdenice Před 5 lety +2

    I’m glad I had the chance to drive one when I did detail work. I don’t remember very much turbo lag.

    • @AremStefaniaK
      @AremStefaniaK Před 5 lety

      torque engine, the gm hi-value economy unit, that one

  • @flightlancaster6102
    @flightlancaster6102 Před 2 lety

    I ' m a Limey , I drove one of these on my first trip to the States in 1990. It was a great vehicle . I wish I could have had one . Cruising around in a Pontiac listening to Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers , life could n 't get better , and it did n 't . Thanks for the memories Yanks .

  • @bwxmoto
    @bwxmoto Před 5 lety +30

    That's a cool looking Lumina

    • @beulahboi
      @beulahboi Před 5 lety +2

      Beretta

    • @trevagraham1605
      @trevagraham1605 Před 5 lety +2

      BWX. Yep the Grand Prix, Lumina, Cutlass Supreme, and Regal all shared the same platform at that time.

    • @bwxmoto
      @bwxmoto Před 5 lety

      At first I thought so, not so sure now. Might be same platform as Beretta? Just looking at the weights of the cars it seems that's the case. I dunno.

    • @trevagraham1605
      @trevagraham1605 Před 5 lety +4

      @@bwxmoto The Grand Am, Achieva/Calais, Beretta/Corsica, and Skylark all shared the same the platform.

    • @beulahboi
      @beulahboi Před 5 lety +2

      You're right..Beretta was the L platform, I was wrong.

  • @reycuerdos
    @reycuerdos Před 5 lety +4

    @2:48, the rear tires actually come off the ground when braking hard! Haha!

  • @fgeiger41
    @fgeiger41 Před 5 lety

    Love it. I had an 87 SE. Seatbelts never bothered me at all. The exhaust note used to make my friends green. The only problem was the horrible clutch in my manual. Only lasted about 20k idf I remember correctly. Would love to see a vid on the 89.

    • @jiggity76
      @jiggity76 Před 3 lety +1

      Your SE had to be an 88 or newer. First year for the GP W-body platform cars. Also first year for the 5 speed option for the W's.

  • @pfwww12
    @pfwww12 Před 2 lety

    Had a 2003 GXP. That booster was a monster. Pontiac had smooth rides and crazy sports handling.

  • @kevinbamvakais5136
    @kevinbamvakais5136 Před 5 lety +13

    Holy Shit it did an endo. @2:48-49 the back wheels leave the ground....

  • @casualsuede
    @casualsuede Před 5 lety +5

    This car was a POS. I had a 1994 3.4 v6 and it was the embodiment of poor reliability. And I'm convinced that Fisher Price supplied the plastics for this car.

    • @DrewKelleyTidwell
      @DrewKelleyTidwell Před 5 lety

      I had the 95 GTP and it was the slowest piece I ever owned !!!

    • @303nitzubishi4
      @303nitzubishi4 Před 5 lety

      The 3.4 was a bastard engine, even if you found a mechanic capable and comfortable working on one you'd pay out the ass to get anything done on it. The regular 3.1 liter models were far more common and would get well into the 170-200k mile range with standard maintenance. Not to be confused with the 3100 engine that had the intake manifold issue

    • @misterbuklau4053
      @misterbuklau4053 Před 3 lety

      @@303nitzubishi4 Ive got a 3.4l 5 speed in my 94 firebird, It HAD cooling issues but i fixed it. It wasnt a blown headgasket but it was overheating, and if you swap out the dexcool for green coolant its a solid motor its at 203k currently... Its not the best or most powerful but it does move the car off its ass

  • @justgoofingoff
    @justgoofingoff Před 5 lety

    I loved my 94 GP SE, wish I still had her..

  • @zachg9065
    @zachg9065 Před 5 lety

    My dad had a brand new 1995 Grand Prix GT coupe in white with the gold wheels. Loved that car

    • @jiggity76
      @jiggity76 Před 3 lety

      For 95, no GT coupe was available. The GT trim was only offered on the sedans. For a 95 coupe, it would have been an SE or GTP.

  • @ma7mgte
    @ma7mgte Před 5 lety +7

    I bet this car would respond well with some modern mods

    • @williamsinger4124
      @williamsinger4124 Před 5 lety +2

      It's funny you say that, I'm swapping a 5 speed into my 91 Beretta with the 3.1. when that motor goes, I'm gonna attempt to find a wrecked one, and swap the motor and do a few small things with it. I don't have the heart to tear apart a good one.

    • @Heartbeat1991
      @Heartbeat1991 Před 5 lety

      William Singer don’t bother. You’ll get far more bang for the buck out of a 3400/3500 and far easier to find.

  • @sleeksilver
    @sleeksilver Před 5 lety +6

    Accounting for inflation, this car would be nearly $50,000 today. That's an absurd amount of money to pay for a car that was mediocre at best even when it was brand new.

    • @davidhesington3490
      @davidhesington3490 Před 5 lety

      Not really what car's in 1990 were as fast as this? Not many at all and if you had one today in great shape and low miles you could get as much as $13,000 to $15,000 so that's a pretty good return on your investment!

    • @sleeksilver
      @sleeksilver Před 5 lety

      @@davidhesington3490 SHO made this look slow.
      Also what do you mean an investment??? This car was $25,000, if you invested that in an index fund in 1990 and even used a VERY conservative 5% rate of return, you'd have over $110,000 today.

    • @EmpressBlackIris
      @EmpressBlackIris Před 5 lety +1

      I have to agree my mom had one exactly like this and got rid of it because of so many electrical issues. It did turn alot of heads when we had it.

  • @floridamaddogg
    @floridamaddogg Před 5 lety +1

    A grand prix GTP was my dream car in 1995. Good old high school days.

  • @KLM817
    @KLM817 Před 3 lety +2

    Pretty cool car for it's day. I don't miss those door mounted seat belts though.

  • @TurboMan942
    @TurboMan942 Před 5 lety +20

    A neighbor had a '90 SE and he thought he was Tom Cruise in Days of Thunder with that thing. Washing and waxing that POS, acting like it was hard to keep on the road because of how powerful it was. Having never seen that movie, us kids would call him "Goose" behind his back because we had seen Top Gun, and Goose was a loser.

    • @jessjohn6157
      @jessjohn6157 Před 5 lety +16

      Cowards talk shit behind someones back

    • @TurboMan942
      @TurboMan942 Před 5 lety +3

      @@jessjohn6157 and talk shit in the CZcams comments section.

    • @DustinBruce31
      @DustinBruce31 Před 5 lety +1

      Faux Craig Singhaus Basically Top Gun, just replace the F-14 Tomcats with NASCAR stock cars and there ya go. Oh and a scene of Tom and another guy racing and slamming into each others rental cars on public streets and even a beach.

    • @FeisarX
      @FeisarX Před 5 lety +6

      This thing really does seem like a total POS... Even by 90s standards.

    • @fatherhate889
      @fatherhate889 Před 5 lety +3

      goose wasnt a looser yo. iceman was.

  • @JJPMustang
    @JJPMustang Před 5 lety +22

    Attack of the cheap plastic body cladding!!

    • @hank1556
      @hank1556 Před 5 lety +2

      90s American interiors! everyone run for the hills!

    • @JJPMustang
      @JJPMustang Před 5 lety +1

      @Donald trick Trump Has STD's from Stormy D.
      What would you consider right & tasteful? I don't associate either of those with Pontiac typically, lol

    • @LynxStarAuto
      @LynxStarAuto Před 5 lety

      Haywood Giablomi Indeed! I love the retro reviews simply for the comments alone. You have very clever sarcasm, and then you have the blind, deaf, borderline mentally handicap brand loyalty folks vehemently defending these almost criminal subpar products.
      It is like discovering your wife is working at a brothel behind your back, and defending the behavior because "times are hard. China took all the jobs."
      😆

  • @CoinHuntingDrew
    @CoinHuntingDrew Před 5 lety +1

    I've been looking for the episode with the Oldsmobile Firenza in it. Can you post it?

  • @w-dad4040
    @w-dad4040 Před 3 lety +1

    Those gold cross-laced wheels! So nice so 90s

  • @pbfloyd13
    @pbfloyd13 Před 5 lety +5

    Grand means big and prix means pricks.

  • @palebeachbum
    @palebeachbum Před 5 lety +3

    The new 1989 Nissan Maxima SE with a non-turbo 3.0L V6 with a lot less power did 0-60 in 7.9s as well. I've driven both cars and the Maxima felt a heck of a lot sportier than this bloated, floaty Grand Prix. Keep in mind this was GM's "sporty" division. Keep in mind this thing cost as much as a Volvo 740 Turbo, which not only was such a better quality car it's comedy to even compare to a Pontiac, but it had a 2.3L 4cyl Turbo and did 0-60 in 7.8s. Anyone who bought this Grand Prix paid an arm and leg for a lot of gimmick and not a terribly good car.

    • @GobotWars
      @GobotWars Před 5 lety +2

      I'd rather have this than a Maxima or a Volvo. Those are boring and everywhere, this is flashy and rare.

    • @palebeachbum
      @palebeachbum Před 5 lety

      @@GobotWars The Grand Prix Turbo was a flashier and rarer car, I'll give you that. I'd describe it as gimmicky and tacky, though.

    • @Lucille69caddy
      @Lucille69caddy Před 5 lety +1

      The only thing bloated and floaty is your opinion, foreign car fanboy😆

    • @palebeachbum
      @palebeachbum Před 5 lety

      @@Lucille69caddy praise where praise is deserved. Pontiac died for a reason.

    • @Raptor3388
      @Raptor3388 Před 5 lety

      They died because GM lost focus on what the brand was, and started making random boring cars with no style out of it. Nobody cared.

  • @thedarkrocker333
    @thedarkrocker333 Před 4 lety

    I bought my 1995 Pontiac Grand Prix for $950 back in March 2020. It runs like a dream for being 25 years old!!! I'm fixing it here and there to avoid having it crap out on me unexpectedly one day. But I am so happy I bought it when I did.

  • @razrramonel4077
    @razrramonel4077 Před 3 lety

    My roommate and I owned a 1990 Pontiac Grand Prix STE with a 3.1 Liter V-6 engine and a 4 speed automatic transmission and 4 doors taking Premium Fuel and a fuse box in the glove compartment, even though the one we owned was a sedan and it had multiple headlights in the front .

  • @roninkraut6873
    @roninkraut6873 Před 3 lety +1

    It’s a great looking car. I didn’t realize these were a 2+2 configuration

  • @spencerkennedy1693
    @spencerkennedy1693 Před 5 lety

    One of these are waiting for me In heaven I love this Car

  • @davidandnidia
    @davidandnidia Před 5 lety +1

    My favorite Grand Prix model of all time. Damn, I miss Pontiac.

  • @jonmcclane7433
    @jonmcclane7433 Před 3 lety +1

    These cars used to be everywhere! I always liked them. It always felt like Pontiac was the only American car company that made attractive sporty sedans that were Front Wheel drive

    • @2fast4all
      @2fast4all Před 3 lety

      Same here. But well they died and even before that I'd laugh at rebadged Chevys.
      and now I own a Chevy myself. lol

  • @amergigolo1442
    @amergigolo1442 Před rokem

    Those were my favorite front seats of any car I've owned!!

  • @workingcountry1776
    @workingcountry1776 Před 3 lety +2

    So much more interesting than 12 camera, phone integration, driverless bla bla of current vehicles

  • @SSDracerSD
    @SSDracerSD Před 5 lety

    Never seen a turbo version in person. So cool.

  • @Dungzoo
    @Dungzoo Před 5 lety +2

    My aunt had the supercharged 3.4L. The paint got sun faded and didn't age well but I loved that car when it was new.

    • @Heartbeat1991
      @Heartbeat1991 Před 5 lety

      Dungzoo I assume 3.8. That was the only one that came supercharged.

    • @Dungzoo
      @Dungzoo Před 5 lety

      Ah. Yes. It was the 3.8L.

  • @Almighty_cornholio
    @Almighty_cornholio Před 5 lety

    I've always loved this body style

  • @gizmo98632
    @gizmo98632 Před 3 lety +2

    The damn thing did a stoppy!!! Lol

  • @pacovalles9913
    @pacovalles9913 Před 4 lety

    Wow.. siempre imponente el pontiac gran prix... Y y para esa época estaba genial. Potente y mucho confort.

  • @GodIHateYouKenny
    @GodIHateYouKenny Před 4 lety

    I learned to drive stick on my father's '88 Grand Prix SE. That was a great car. Then he got me a '86 Fiero GT with five speed. Same 2.8 v6 in both.

  • @askjeevescosby2928
    @askjeevescosby2928 Před rokem

    I love these cars. I hope I can find a nice example of one before it's too late and they become impossible to find.

  • @baddrivercam
    @baddrivercam Před 3 lety

    I had one with a 5 speed manual fully optioned. It was a great car.

  • @joshblack4291
    @joshblack4291 Před 5 lety

    I had a 94, had a bunch of bells and whistles, was a great car.

  • @michaelburke7978
    @michaelburke7978 Před 5 lety

    I always wanted one of these