How Loki Changed Spider-Man, Dr Strange & More - Loki Episode 6 For All Time. Always Breakdown
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Loki Episode wraps up the season in a completely mind-bending fashion. The ending left a lot of things to be explained and it flipped things for the future of the MCU, directly affecting Spider-Man No Way Home, Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness and more. This week we go through the origins and death of Nathanial Richards aka Kang The Conqueror, the birth or rebirth of the multiverse, season 2, more Frog Thor and what’s in store next for Loki, Sylvie, Mobius and the MCU. Thanks for watching!
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For the reincarnation point i took it to mean that another variant of him will eventually find alioth again and do the all the same things hes done. Like a cycle
Thats pretty clearly what he meant
Or like a freaky circle,
@@cg1906 a lot of people thought that meant time would repeat itself, but no eventually another version of himself will stop the new war or something
I thought that was pretty clear but I guess not. Variants were a huge part of the show lol
Well its a good thing alioth was barley an inconvenience
No-one talking about how the editor showed a clip of Andor from Star Wars when James said "and, or". Don't worry editor, I noticed xoxo
😂
That'll be Collings 😂
Same with Paul Rudd when he says “paul-sible”.
Ben is incredible
Time is a circle
Regarding reincarnation, he didn't mean it literally. He meant that by killing him, all the other Kang variants are released ---> leading to another multiversal war ---> leading to another version of himself coming to the same conclusion about creating a Sacred Timeline. So it's like, this outcome is inevitable. Not that this specific He Who Remains will be reincarnated.
Somewhat of a grandfather paradox but not really
Its like a sort of cosmic horror honestly
"No matter what you do, we will end up back here, with a whole universe of useless suffering behind us. Maybe you'll make the right choice then"
Thats such a terrifying idea, I love it
"I am inevitable but it's kinda literal but not really.. whatever sells more merch"
That's how I read it too. This kind of reminds me of Rick and Morty, specifically Rick.
That's how I took it.
Loki faced his worst fear: a villain more theatrical than him
Good thing he didn't got to meet Mysterio
A brilliant performance from Jonathan Majors.
I have a feeling they made him whacky here and the main kang will be a bit more stern
@@mirkecWii That's likely, because in my opinion this version isn't even really a villain. He felt that keeping this timeline by itself was genuinely the best thing.
Actual villain Kang won't be having the same kinda hijinks or mannerisms!
@@mirkecWii That was my thought, too. I don't think I can handle a whole movie of that kind of performance & take him seriously as a threat lol
Unfortunately, the Mobius that Loki is with now is staunchly anti-jet ski.
The other one is still arround somewhere. Loki just gotback to the 'wrong' dimension
@@vashsunglasses I was talking to a friend about this and they did show at the start of the last episode that technically the only thing outside the timeline is that house Kang was in, so maybe that was a lie to?
His wife was killed by a jet ski
@@vashsunglasses I'm starting to question whether there's only one. Seeing as how Mobius had no idea who Loki is, and him/his variants have already been a pretty big deal to the TVA for a long time, only one of two things could have happened for Loki to end up in a TVA where there's a statue of Kang. Either he got pushed through a door into an alternate universe where there's another TVA, or Kang already went back and molded the TVA into his image the split-second after He Who Remains died. Either way we want the Mobius who likes jet skis.
@@Narumi4918 It wasn't a split second though, at least not outside of the citadel. It could have been a millennia. We don't know.
I hope the "multiversal war" was just different versions of the same scientist randomly traveling to other universes and having group fist fights in the street.
Basically the anchorman street fight
That would be great but I actually think it might be that they all have their own TVA’s battling!
I know yours was a joke but I wanted to through out my theory lol
@@jackdailey5238 there was a theory that there were multiple TVA agencies. Maybe that comes into fruition.
@@patricksammon6238 I thought at some point they would walk through a door at the TVA and end up in another nearly identical TVA.
Kang is literally bad guy Rick from Rick and Morty. Someone who always inevitably invents interdimensional travel and interacts with other versions of himself. Except kang well conquers
My favorite part was when the door of the castle opened and John Krasinski walked out and said “Maclunkey” before being stabbed by Sylvie
that happened to my buddy eric
Only to be unmasked as Mephisto.
@@Jackbutcool Ah yeah, Mephisto as played by Evan Peters (in a Jim Halpert costume)
Jonathan Majors performance made the exposition dump entertaining as hell
Honestly. The fact that he spent 40 minutes speaking and it was just as entertaining as any other episode is a testament to his talent as an actor.
100%agree when he got casted as kang in the next antman and the wasp I watched a few of the things he made, and his a brilliant actor and his voice and the way he portrayed “he who remains” ( I know it’s a variant of kang) was phenomenal
I loved it, this is probably the best (in terms of acting and morality) version of Kang we'll get to see
The sheer amout of time he spent looking around, darting is eyes in silence as he contemplates what he'll do next is what sucked me in. The long pauses hanging in the air while we wait for the next few words to spill out were everything in this scene. Silence can be very powerful
@@iamcodeman1995 I wouldn't be surprised if marvel ends this new saga with the Avengers helping He Who Remains to get ahead in the multiversal war and re-create the Sacred Timeline
You know that Japanese thing of repairing say broken pottery with gold cement so it's not disguising it's rebuilt. I think it's the same with the citadel. It's the same structure that every He Who Remains/Kang/Immortus uses.
That’s a cool idea! I believe it’s called Kintsugi. Also, Kang/He Who Remains’ TemPad kinda looks like Kintsugi with the gold veins contrasting with the black stone.
Same inspiration was used for the repaired Kylo Ren mask in Rise of Skywalker
Kintsugi. And ya it is definitely the theme idea here with how Kang is 'repairing' his own sacred timeline.
When miss minutes was at the entrance, I genuinely thought Barry Minutes was gonna be the big bad for a hot second
What do you mean?
He was.
I wanted a Barry Minutes so bad 😂
#JusticeForBarry
I love the idea that this was the nicest Kang. (due to him being the time ruler for so long) and that the others will be power hungry and crazy AF!
Not necessarily the nicest. He did essentially wipe all other timelines from existence. There have to be ones out there that never considered doing that because they were nicer than this one. He never would have had to do this if there were not meaner ones out there so he’s most definitely not the meanest one
I agree, that gave me the idea that this was just an exhibition of the next big bad. And we're literally going to get a more ruthless Kang with the motivation to conquer and fuck shit up
not sure that he was nice, I just took it as him being a bit loopy and insane from controlling the timeline for so long.
@@ryancarrell3186 that dude was EXCITED to die
@@juanadino369 oh yeah for sure. Next big bad will most def be kang but likely we will get other versions of kang that aren’t bad as well
I just realized that Sylvie was only pruned for her to show up to “The one who remains”
But then that means that the time heist and saving the universe from Thanos ONLY happened because “Kang” needed that Loki variant to break free of his timeline. Mind blowing.
Oh shit!! You’re right. That would explain why the Avengers fucking around with time was allowed. I think Revona even said that in the first episode. It all happened so that Loki would end up there.
Good call on that.
@@vinoveritas757 Kang wills it!
@@vinoveritas757 it also explains there being no reason given for pruning Sylvie, we didn't get an answer for that right?
@@revod7903 then don’t watch it anymore it’s really that easy . Also she has taken extreme amounts of damage since the get go in the MCU. Get over yourself
That sucks then. So literally everything that happened in Endgame was predetermined? No free will? That's stupid as shit. It makes Natasha and Tony's sacrifice completely void. If it was destined to happen then there is no sacrifice. They were always gonna do that.
How Marvel just gave themselves the license to do ANYTHING
You mean earned the license to do anything. If their movie universe sucked, none of this would be happening.
@@doomstadt2371 i mean, they earned it a long time ago, no ones catching up lmao
@@doomstadt2371 I didn’t say it sucked, and I also didn’t mean they haven’t earned it. I said what I said. Cool your jets.
@@Eddie_fn_g NO EDDIE! YOU COOL YOUR JETS!! COOL THEM! DO IT!
They can recast a Tchalla then
He got you there with the cut to Sheppard dancing following that "nothing good ever happens in a citadel" comment. S tier editing!
Fiddzyyy! Huge appreciation on the catch. Worried it was a risky one and people wouldn't get it. Hero.
@@rawcollings Never underestimate the internet, Collings.
With the multiverse we can now get a cannon Corn of Coblin movie in the MCU!
The original was always canon in my eyes.
Corn the Conqueror
Easter Egg: Loki , who appeared in Thor: The Dark World, also appeared in the hit TV show Loki (2018).
Could it be the same guy???
Why did you put the year as 2018?
@@chair42 I think they said that because that’s when the show takes place.
@@darricktv9857 it takes place in 2012
@@diegob798 oh yeah 2012 I’m dumb, nevermind 😂
At first I wasn't the happiest with this episode, but they sold me on it. That whole scene in Kang's office was like watching a stage play. His charisma is through the roof and I loved every second of it
Also that Kang Foo! Panel had me rolling 😆😆
Kang is going to be an INSTANT icon. Dude shows up for 30 minutes hamming it tf up and I already love him.
@@5Ci0N For... real... dude...Icon
Wasn’t the reincarnation just a reference to the many other iterations of himself?
Yeah, pretty sure he just meant that the war would reoccur with another variant ending the war with the smoke monster and pruning the other timelines just like he did
He literally said See You Soon
Yea, it’s essentially an endless cycle that needs to be broken by Loki I assume in season 2. If you’ve played the black ops games zombie modes before Cold War came out the story is the same idea. The characters were in an endless cycle where they’d make it through to the end and then get sent to something called the Great War in the 1300s and they’d die only to be born again and all meet up in world war 1. Each time they went through the cycle they would be slightly different, like one character could be the biggest prick but in the next cycle he’ll be the nicest version you’ve seen yet. Eventually they broke their cycle by doing the complete opposite of what they had done everytime in the cycle before.
he kinda kang kinda like rick, yo cant kill him he keep coming with many of his alteration version of him... he gonna keep coming....
We Wuz KANGS!
If Jonathan Majors is playing Kang the Conqueror and presumably the Council of Kangs I cant wait to see the acting range he brings to it.
I was absolutely baffled at the Coblin the Conqueror reveal, didn't think Marvel had it in them.
I dunno they're cowards over at Disney they might just retcon it.
Still a better Villain than Taskmaster
@@EnemysFateofficial I wouldn’t even consider taskmaster worthy of the “Villain” title… Even brainwashed Hawkeye from the avengers posed more of a threat than Taskmaster
You mean Coblin the Cornqueror?
@@EnemysFateofficial I read that as "Still a better Villain than Ticketmaster." Which is impossible there is no villain more evil than Ticketmaster.
Silly editor, the picture at 5:14 is of Reed Richards' father, who is also named Nathaniel Richards but is not a version of Kang. By pointing this out I am proving I am smart.
Smart is you.
Ahh appreciate this! I'll totally hold hands up and thank you for the heads up. Especially also doing so in a cool way. I definitely jumped on a higher quality image without double checking backstory. AHHH. Will do better and cheers again mate.
John Majors was so frickin' good, can't wait to see him in full conqueror mode!
I hope his personality is different tho, I don't want another serious baddas character to be turned into a wisecracking jokester like the Mandarin in iron man 3
He was literally the best thing from the entire show. Wich is saying something since everything was so good.
I really hope he becomes a big thing, he has been great in everything I've seen him in
I love that it "technically" wasn't Kang, even though they did bring in Jonathan Majors to play a variant. Fucking great ending!
I guess that was basically Immortus, he was wearing his outfit minus the Hat
Yea I saw an article interviewing Jonathan Majors before the show came out. They asked him if he's going to appear in Loki and he said he's definitely not appearing as Kang lol
@@NoVACorpsGaming oh yeah, definitely Immortus
@@stevencooper564 idk I think this version is just Kang and He who remains mixed, immortus was not in any way like that, he was definitely still a conquerer even with the name change
@@ThrobbertJomes no. Kang the conqueror is coming. It was made super obvious.
Sooo, they had recordings of Hemsworth as Throg beating up Loki, and they cut it for more exposition?
That hurts! 😢. They better put him in for S2!!
I just knew when those doors opened it would be John Krasinski!!!
It was crazy, I did not see that coming
@@stewriley2899 definitely the best onscreen depiction of Mephisto we've ever got.
Absolutely insane. And the fact it was all a scheme to prevent Mephisto from being released on the world? BRILLIANT!
@@stewriley2899
Maybe not seeing it coming were the real friends we made along the way.
@@PittsburghSonido piss off Bore Ragnarok
My God, the editing on this is amazing! The way it was edited when Nick said "or" lined up with Silvia saying it....Chef's kiss 😘
It's more of an Ego the Living Planet powerpoint display.
Situation.
Magic powerpoint needs to be added to the official bingo card for Marvel endings.
“Episode 5”
Episode 7
Episode 28
Episode 21
5pisode E.
Shout out to Collings. The true mvp of this channel and the episode reviews for all the marvel shows. I eat this shit up like a hoover.
PLZ refrain from vacuuming feces IRL. Just don't.
@@CWargh63 I also try to not eat it but we all get a bit wild in the heat of the moment.
Whoa. Cheers so much Al, that's too kind and also incredibly graphic. I LOVE IT
I saw the whole citadel gold inlay thing as Kintsugi and a 'repairing the timeline' type reference.
They’ve been calling us maniacs since wandavision but John krasinski was finally shown
So, with the two Loki’s and He Who Remains discussing the events that are about to unfold, and that Sylvie was the one to get the ball moving, was that like a Garden of Eden allegory there? Like, there was even a bad guy with an apple
Holy shit
Except Sylvie didn’t take the ‘apple’ that was offered by Kang. I see where you’re coming from though.
Also that's a cool allegory because all that was the "genesis" for phase 4 and Multiverse of Madness
@@terinrichardson6061 right, I see what you’re saying there, and thanks. She was on her own path of vengeance, but doing so “casts them out of Paradise,” so to speak, and into the wilderness that is the Phase 4 and the Multiverse. So, it’s not a 1:1, but I figure it’s gotta be a reference point, right?
As a point of clarification, Dan over at Nerdist was the one to attribute He Who Remains with the Serpent in the story (haha, snakes, clever), but it dawned on me that Loki and Sylvie would then be our “Adam and Eve” in the context. And that like, 🤯, opens up all kinds of conversations, on top of what the Multiverse means (Heck, I am still in awe that we now have a Multiverse on the way, despite it clearly in the cards with Dr. Strange)
After 3 whole series of teasing him, I for one am glad we finally got to see John Krasinski……..’s
descendant Nathaniel Richards👍
So when did he show up? I'm ngl I kind of hope you're joking
The 2018 scene of Renslayer has a framed certificate on her wall, awarded to Rebecca Tourmanet. In the comics that's a pseudonym that Renslayer adopts after she kills one variant of Kang and goes to live with another Kang variant, calling himself Victor Timely. So it's quite possible that 2018 scene is not the origin of Renslayer...hmmm
Loki: I am the most charismatic, chaotic villain!
Jonathan Majors: Allow me to introduce myself
What’s your opinion of Sylvie Saying she was “PRUNED” before Loki existed??like that means she’s been to the void before which explains why she was so confident in enchanting alioth she knew she needed loki to do it with her
i think by pruned she meant removed from her timeline
When Loki and Sylvie walk into the Citadel, there are statues of the three Time Keepers with a fourth one broken. In the comics, apparently, there were originally four of them and one of them was exiled so maybe they are real after all?
Mobius is finally going to say “wow” when he meets himself from an alternate dimension
Apparently, they specifically avoided having Owen Wilson say "wow" because he hates that meme.
Would be so great if in S2 Mobius meets a “variant” which is just the actual actor Owen Wilson and the two have a WOW-off
He changed it from episode 5 to 6 after 3min. Dont let him forget, let's shame James!
"boo. i'm a clock." - miss minutes
Probably
Tick tock
11:03 I think it’s more of a thing of there were multiple timelines, Kang #1 destroyed them all so only the “Sacred” timeline existed thus only 1 version of Kang (himself). And killing Kang #1 basically rebooted the multiverse, creating multiple timelines thus multiple Kang’s to wage war against each other
The Sacred timeline was nothing more than a trick to preserve all the perfect events that would lead to his, and only his, version of himself. If there were other Kang’s existing, they would have found a way to get to the sacred timeline, with or without the branches
The Multiverse has always been around, Kang/Immortus just isolated the "sacred" timeline. At least that's what he said, and what the graphic at the beginning of the episode implied. (Even if other Kangs could get in, I believe they fear Alioth)
My understanding is by isolating the timeline, he makes sure all infinite different multiverse timelines follow the "sacred timeline". Without his/TVA intervention they begin to branch. So that timeline circle in space is infinitely many timelines that are all basically following the same history of events. Then once he dies, changes start to occur, you have big branches, and as more changes occur it begins to cascade, the branches turn into a crazy web of infinite different timelines, where Kang variants will start to appear. I assume the "sacred timeline" was isolated as it was a timeline in which Kang never discovers time travel/multiverse travel.
Anyone else notice when Kang notices the "Threshold," the sound that comes from it, sounds like the Infinity Stones when Smart Hulk puts on the Iron Gauntlet and right before he snaps everyone back into existence?
I gotta say, at first I was thrown by the performance by Majors because it is wildly different from what I pictured when he was cast, but as it went on I loved it. He’s like the chill, bro Kang who’s also clearly lost his mind. I know it’s not exactly what he’ll be in Ant-Man but I quite enjoyed the performance.
Mason def wrote that title to accidentally put episode 5 instead of 6
I want a variant Loki who uses shampoo.
Burn
As a greasy long hair, I enjoy the representation.
L'oreal
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You're telling me Sylvie doesn't use shampoo, with those flawless wavey locks?
Man it would be funny if James messed up the title and put "5" instead of "6" and shamefully change it after but not before someone saw and made fun of him.
Haha
Like the infinity war trailer breakdown 🤣
Glad you guys regularly acknowledge your editor. Editors are the unsung heroes of some of the internets best shows.
I don't know if anyone ever think of this.
Remember back in infinity war, doctor strange stated that he has seen 14 billion different outcomes to defeat thanos and only 1 that succed which is where the avengers time travels and unintentionally cause loki to escape and get captured by the TVA which, in the series (finale), leading to the creation of the multiverse, which again, is what doctor strange have to deal with in the "Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness".
So my point is, didn't he or shouldn't he forseen this outcome as well? not just defeating thanos, but forseen the impact of loki's action/escape during endgame.
So in the ONE THOUSAND YEARS after Stark figured out time travel, everyone just ignored it?
They all got bored with the idea and moved on to multiverse after multiverse 😂
Probably classified and then forgotten
He did not share his password, probably.
A few references to time travel exist
like when Sylvie burns the TVA agents they say “probably just a time traveler looking for oil”
@@jackdailey5238 oh yeah. Almost forgot about that.
If you are white, that's okay. If you're black, well.. But you will be in the 1800's with no modern tech. so what's the point in going back in time to get all that money. Tho you can go back to the future and have yourself some mint conditioned comics worth millions of dollars
I absolutely love that in trying to make Collings' job easier, the boys end up doing a bit that makes it more complicated. lmao I love this channel.
Mass effect’s citadel is the only good citadel
The citadel brand of miniature paints is pretty solid
I mean, SPOILERS, it did turn out to be a reaper trap, and by the end of the third game it became a giant space cylinder full of corpses, so idk about "good".
The Citadel DLC, on the other hand, that I can get behind.
Yeah sorry Half-Life 2 has the best citadel no place better than City 17
@@Hacker-Kun oh true forgot about that one
I'm Loki and this is my favourite store on the citadel
Episode 5? Man, Loki really did change everything
Rob collings is an editing god- I’m always engaged by these videos and that’s not easy to do in these mostly-audio videos.
Alright first up, wow thank you. Second, I love you for this and thank you again.
How perfect that Ravona Renslayer was a principal! Highest in the chain at that location but always having to answer to and support the mission of a high authority such as the district Superintendent! This show was amazing. Huge doors open for this universe now! Mutants, monsters, vampires, new heroes, new villains, new technologies! So excited!
What if *_(wink)_* during Kang's slacking off he was the one shit talking Korg on Xbox?
Apparently that's canonically the guy at the computer store that tries to help Steve and Nat in Winter Soldier? Even though that makes no sense, he's clearly supposed to be a 13 year old.
Listened to the audio version of this and needed to see the pictures of Dan Aykroyd!
Aha daaamn, appreciate the double dip Hoffman!!
They also cut the scene of Loki looking in the mirror saying Glorious
And the Jaws thing. Maybe they will put the scenes all together for us
That’s very nice of you to upload this video. Thanks 👍🏼
seems like a lot of people just want to complain and moan about Disney and Marvel nowadays.
Shove that. They nailed the finale here. So excited for what’s next
This was the best of the three new marvel shows, hands down
So people aren’t allowed to dislike something?
I was waiting for John Krasinski to show up in the finale but I guess Jonathan Majors will do😔
A few things come to mind. 1. i don't think reincarnation, i think when he said "see you soon" he meant you are about to meet a whole bunch of my varients and good luck with that! So even if one is to the viewer, idendical, they are still a variet.
2. I think he has been managing the timeline somewhat arbitrarily with one main goal, dont let it spread mutliversaly too much and if more specifically, dont let my own varients exist. So as long as he keeps a timeline intact enough to stop that, including i suppose other people who would lead to the same shenanigans he did, then its fine. so loki could have beat the avengers and sylvie could get what she wanted, in the grand scheme of stopping the rise of kang, those are just other options.
3. when he was killed and everything became unmanaged and branched, that happened through all time instantly, and infinite number of multiverses started to exist with infinite timelines and to any individual on that timeline, its always been that way. seeing the branches slowly grow is just narritive translation to try make it understandable, and they can tweak that description as they like a bit going forward because its never going to be truly straight forward to make sense of, they just need to try avoid contradictions.
4. i find the concept interesting that we have never head of the fantastic four or richards before now because in the mcu timeline we know, they dont exist, because that is an important part of his decided timeline to avoid because it leads to varients of him. Hell maybe even all the other pruned branches are the timeline trying to correct to its free unaltered self, forwards and backwards in time. Times proper wierd in real life man, so let alone what they want to do when you try write it in stories
I think He Who Remains meant that if they killed him now he would just be born in the 31st century like he's supposed to and everything will happen again. Like his original life is still gonna happen and lead to the multiverse war. But since the tva is also outside of time it was immediately retaken by the reborn guy from 3000.
The red lines could represent the neighbouring universes above and below this one, which is why the branches go up or down rather than being a graph of how doomed we are. It also explains the very concept of "point of no return" because "doors open from both sides" and we would basically be unlocking the door to this universe, so any old kang can march in.
Did anyone else notice the statues in the second corridor of the Citadel? There were 4, but one (I'm assuming the one of Kang/Immortus) was broken. Maybe there were actually 3 others helping him preserve the timeline before something terrible happened? Maybe they turned on him, destroyed his statue, but he killed them off or something.
What if, in Thor: Love and Thunder, it's not even our Jane Foster?! They're still broken up? OR the Mjolnir she wields is from another dimension? This opens up EVERYTHING that can be possible. Here come the Fantastic Four- already formed? Annihilus? The frigging X-Men! The ripples from this could alter DNA of teenagers. Fiege is a genius.
Kilmonger as Black Panther?!
@@idbuyanewbmx might do that in what if tbh
This is a smart move, now there is no such thing as painting themselves into a corner, although I hope they don't get lazy.
What if instead of our thor is throg?
You guys are literally the only CZcams people that actually read the article on marvels site about the finale. Good for you
I already listened to this on BigSandwich but I had to come here to see all the hand drawn animation
“Maybe he did some Doctor Doom in there.” For a moment I thought there was a street drug called “Doctor Doom” that I hadn’t heard of.
Thank you Collings. Dan Ackroyd will haunt my dreams.
I was thinking the gold lining in the citadel was referring to Kintsugi, the japanese art of fixing pottery with a gold lacquer/paste. Maybe as a reminder not to forget the fractured multiverse
MASS EFFECT REFERENCE!
Fuckin love it. Well done again Collings
*I got a lot of Jacob from Lost vibes from He Who Remains. (He) essentially helped create a monster(s) and in turn he was the only thing keeping them at bay.*
Oh, I hadn’t noticed that. Great eye!
Re: Predeterminism vs free will - One could perceive this *TVA* scenario as making life meaningless. *But* the way I see it, *Kang* is simply one who has seen (or has access to) the entirety of the timeline. It's not that he's controlling everything, but rather he saw how it all went down. From my POV, we still made our own choices. He just happened to be privy to seeing those choices being made, as well as their ramifications throughout time (at least within our happy little timeline/universe).
There wasn't an issue until they crossed over to one anothers' universes, and subsequently there was war. So *Kang* decides to do the *TVA* thing. Which just means that he wants whatever decisions we made in our timeline to always be the decisions/choices we made. We always had the choice to make them in the first place. And for someone who can bounce all-around time, *Kangaroo* just wants to see that everything happens the way it happened. _Am I making sense?_
I imagine there are cracks in my conclusion. After all, this isn't easy, given we are limited to what is shared in the show. I've long been asking what the distinction is between a _timeline_ and an _alternate universe._ I think that's relevant to getting some the answers we seek.
According to my theory above, _we have free will._ . .in our own little timeline/universe. So I ask, is what they seem to be calling _free will_ (i.e., what they're fighting for in the show) the ability to split off and create an alternate universe? Because it seems to me that's all it really is. It just seems to be a fight for the _the existence of alternate universes,_ not _free will._
Without certain things clearly defined, we're just scrambling about. For instance, we can look at how *Loki* took advantage of what happened in _Endgame_ to split off from the timeline and create an alternate universe. But when *Sylvie* was taken, she had already been around for 8 to 10 years, so the fact of her birth wasn't the issue. . _.or was it?_ Perhaps it just took 10 years to find *that* Universe (or the cause of its creation) amongst an infinite number of universes. 🤔 That can't be right, can it? Well, each *Loki* did have a specific *nexus event.*
On one hand *Loki* created an alternate universe when he snagged the tesseract. On the other hand those other alternate universes (alligator, *Sylvie,* etc.) were _already in existence._ In which case, each one would have to have its own timeline. 🤯
I think I'm just going to have a lie down. 🛌
So this was about a guy who is in a place outside of time that is protected by a smoke monster and he has to make sure the world doesn't end.
I remember watching this when it was called Lost.
Lmaooooo spot on
The clip of James whacking Miss Minutes always tickle me fancy for no reason
Kang the Conker….his weakness would be a poorly drilled hole, or maybe a frayed string….or an incorrectly, or possibly sub standard knot.
No she used the kiss and turn to make it look like she was just catching herself on the desk to trick Loki into getting her closer to Kang’s tempad so she could push him into the time door.
I love how the editor really is the third character in these videos
The editor for these videos is insanely good
YEN! Cheers so much mate
The real multiverse are the friends we made along the way
Nice
“Episode 5”
Wow. A mistake in the title. How shameful. I have unsubscribed, disliked, and reported for terrorism.
I'll never get tired of seeing MrSundayMovies smacking that Miss Minutes clock
Maybe the payoff for the jetski thing is that Loki will be all "bro i know u like jetskis" and Mobius will trust him or something
I’m stunned at how people can’t like this, I thought this was amazing
Boring camera angles, dull lighting, flat falling jokes, and a unmemorable soundtrack.
@@darricktv9857 not only that but they made Loki an idiot. Not the trickster god but some side character goon
Who doesn’t like it? Weirdos the lot of them. Show is great.
@@dkantherest Side character who is the central and titular character of the show, around whom everything happens and whose love interest is version of himself sure sure, yep
@@darricktv9857 Counterpoint: Nice camera angles, nice lighting, fun jokes and an absolutely kickass soundtrack tho?
I think we can all agree that Marvel just don't miss when it comes to casing:
Sophia Di Martino as Sylvie
Owen Wilson as Mobius
Jonathan Majors as 'Kang variant'
and that's just to name a few! Especially now knowing that we're going to be introduced to a whole host of new characters over the next few years it's nice to know the casting team are doing a good job as always!
I was very engaged by Jonathan’s performance.
I liked how kangs place looked like Kintsugi, the idea is that when a pot breaks you repair it with gold or silver and it shows the history of it rather than trying to hide it.
14:15 The Mr Beast joke is really strong. A+
Marvel is 2 for 2 on weird incest kisses, first Steve and Sharon, and now Loki and well, Loki
@Joshu yep. Nobody complains about the Luke and Leia kisses, what’s wrong with Loki and Loki kisses? 😂
3 for 3 if you count the Ultimate comics…
Steve and sharon wouldn't be incest though. Sharon is Peggy's grand niece meaning she is the daughter of Peggy's sister's child and doesn't share any blood relation to Steve thus him and her kissing is just normal weird, not incest weird
Are we even sure Sylvie ISN'T Enchantress?
@@thedarkemissary She is now
“Kang” was credited as He Who Remains, who is a separate comic character who had nothing to do with Kang in the comics (but had something to do with the TVA at the end of time), he was some ancient yellow guy. I’m surprised the guys didn’t find that.
I think Collins did more work on this one, what a bloody legend!
Been waiting hours for this
Straight up thought for a second that Loki was going to backstab Sylvie
I feel that Renslayer had perhaps previously figured out her origin and placement in the TVA and when that awareness was gained she was offered her current position in exchange for preserving the sacred timeline and the lie to others processed by the TVA. Her comics origin goes way back from my time reading The Avengers, so maybe this is common knowledge.
Her comics origin is so insanely different it’s hard to say
I thought that Renslayer will be working helping the original (now dead) Kang to resort things back to normal. The files he sent her would lead her to work against the evil Kang. She could be OG Kang's ace in the hole. Regardless of Loki/Sylvie's choice, she would work to restore the timeline and bring things back to normal. idk thats what I took away.
That face when this vid is labeled episode 6
It’s episode 6, James. You can change it quick. I won’t tell anyone. ;)
I will, but no-one will ever believe me.
@@massivecockhaver4689 it might have to do with your username. Doesn't exactly instill truthfulness ;-)
@@endlessvoid7952 oh no!! How could you make such a clever and relevant take down of my reply which also insults my masculinity!
the timing of the editing at 0:27 is fantastic
Lucked out big time but also thank you
3:30 well apparently it is relevant kinda. The gold repair lines are in a style called Kintsugi. The idea is you repair things that are broken with gold to make it stronger, in the way that Kang has been 'repairing' his own timeline. Neat visual concept.