Will Evil Doctor Strange Return? - What If Episode 4 Breakdown

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  • Episode 4 of Marvel’s What If… asks? What If Dr Strange Lost His Heart Instead Of His Hands? Not literally it’s a metaphor for love or whatevs. Anyways this week we get into the role of an evil Doctor Strange in the MCU on a quest to write the wrongs of his past.
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  • @Drbumcheeks
    @Drbumcheeks Před 3 lety +1641

    If you look closely, after Doctor Strange absorbs the wolf creature, he follows up with absorbing Corn of Coblin, I believe this is where he obtains his amazing power.

    • @shielfoxftw8279
      @shielfoxftw8279 Před 3 lety +59

      With this in mind, we can assume that the Doctor Strange in No Way Home really is the What if...? Doctor Strange, but under the influence of Corn of Coblin. Controlling someone Peter Parker trusts would be the perfect way to defeat him.

    • @caelenm1
      @caelenm1 Před 3 lety +35

      Forget the Corn Of Coblin ... its the Pee Of Pooplin you need to watch out for

    • @supermysticsonic2
      @supermysticsonic2 Před 3 lety +4

      *Corn of Coblin

    • @Drbumcheeks
      @Drbumcheeks Před 3 lety +3

      @@supermysticsonic2 idk what you’re talking about

    • @supermysticsonic2
      @supermysticsonic2 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Drbumcheeks lol

  • @Snfflbx
    @Snfflbx Před 3 lety +1238

    "Pride goeth before the fall", or as we know it as these days "Fuck around and find out.
    So true.

    • @samhank
      @samhank Před 3 lety +1

      Yup

    • @lyndsaybrown8471
      @lyndsaybrown8471 Před 3 lety +8

      This is Dr. Strange's milk crate challenge

    • @caramel_______9413
      @caramel_______9413 Před 3 lety

      AISURU.TOKYO/AGNEZ 💞
      (◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
      CZcams: This is fine
      Someone: Says "heck"
      CZcams: Be gone
      #однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

    • @rileyk5228
      @rileyk5228 Před 3 lety +1

      Died. Amazing

  • @joeyteter9383
    @joeyteter9383 Před 3 lety +299

    Also, we definitely need a “You got watched, bitch!” shirt

    • @jdunnatl
      @jdunnatl Před 3 lety +7

      I lost it when he said that. I would definitely get that shirt. 🤣

    • @joeyteter9383
      @joeyteter9383 Před 3 lety +3

      Oh I’d buy it instantly. But yea I did too 😂😂😂

  • @Swoosh_015
    @Swoosh_015 Před 3 lety +940

    The watchers “appearance” to Dr. Strange was so fucking cool. It’s like he was always there. His corporal form just sorta appeared and his answer was so fast to Stranges. It was sooooooo DOPE

    • @marcrichardson517
      @marcrichardson517 Před 3 lety +74

      The Watcher has been in every ep, except the 1st I believe…jus doin what he does…watchin…
      The fact Doc Strange was able 2 see & talk 2 him…jus shows how powerful Strange is. Jus SO dope…

    • @ohJettzen
      @ohJettzen Před 3 lety +1

      Dope

    • @MrTevens
      @MrTevens Před 3 lety +26

      I was half expecting him to try and absorb the Watcher.

    • @micahwright5901
      @micahwright5901 Před 3 lety +10

      It was incredibly powerful to see this god-like being turn his back on Strange.

    • @bobaphet4125
      @bobaphet4125 Před 3 lety +2

      Yea was cool:)

  • @manchild8365
    @manchild8365 Před 3 lety +734

    Benedict Cumberbatch's voice acting shows just how much it can elevate this show, that end was truly depressing thanks to Benedicts performence. Really made me feel something

    • @iamgroot2810
      @iamgroot2810 Před 3 lety +26

      He has a lot of experience in voice acting.

    • @aashishsingh2001
      @aashishsingh2001 Před 3 lety +24

      Tom Hiddleston and Benedict both are great voice actors. Similar to Troy Baker.

    • @manchild8365
      @manchild8365 Před 3 lety +3

      @@aashishsingh2001 hopefully pedro pascal can do just as good as troy did for joel in the LOU live action

    • @92brunod
      @92brunod Před 3 lety +14

      @@aashishsingh2001 Wait wait wait wait. Troy Baker (and Nolan North) are on a whole different level of voice acting, mate.

    • @foster-uz5rt
      @foster-uz5rt Před 3 lety +4

      I've pretty much been depressed ever since I watched the What If...? Honestly if I had younger kids, i don't think i would let them see it.

  • @matthewpollock9685
    @matthewpollock9685 Před 3 lety +234

    You know, between Dr. Strange, Eric Bana in "The Time Traveler's Wife", and Domhnall Gleeson in "About Time", I'm starting to feel like Rachael McAdams really has a thing for sad time travelers with tragic stories.

    • @MrCuntacular2
      @MrCuntacular2 Před 3 lety +10

      Ya girl got a type

    • @nick240p
      @nick240p Před 3 lety +11

      Let us not forget Midnight in Paris also. Or maybe we should

    • @brandonbaker536
      @brandonbaker536 Před 3 lety +9

      Anyone know how to build a time machine?
      I'm asking for a friend.

    • @matthewpollock9685
      @matthewpollock9685 Před 3 lety +5

      @@nick240p Wow! I'd neither seen nor heard of Midnight in Paris until I read your reply. Nice reference, Nick, that's amazing.
      Her dating time travelers is starting to feel like as much of a cliché as Matt Damon needing rescue and Sean Bean dying.

    • @matthewpollock9685
      @matthewpollock9685 Před 3 lety +3

      @@brandonbaker536 And the award for the best reply to a CZcams comment in 2021 goes to...
      Dude, you know the tragedy of a reply that perfect? Too many people skim comments and ignore the replies. Please understand that I intend no sarcasm nor irony when I say that evident by the length of this reply to your reply (as well as my original comment), my humor oft depends on excessive exposition. The brilliance of your reply is it's simplicity.
      As William Shakespeare himself wrote in Hamlet, "Brevity is the soul of wit." My hats off to you good sir. I regret that I have but one like to offer.

  • @Carrieland
    @Carrieland Před 3 lety +844

    Don't know if I'd risk the destruction of the universe for Rachel McAdams, but I do know I wouldn't even hesitate to risk it for that hunk Nick Mason

    • @garrettcarter5622
      @garrettcarter5622 Před 3 lety +22

      I mean, let's be real here, she ain't no Clea.

    • @caravan1996
      @caravan1996 Před 3 lety +19

      Yeah NICK "that pig rolling down a hill" MASON

    • @micahwright5901
      @micahwright5901 Před 3 lety +5

      I would risk it for both our Nick Mason and one drummer from the greatest band of all time, Pink Floyd’s Nick Mason.

    • @5lim.0
      @5lim.0 Před 3 lety +2

      100% would

  • @ItsTheGuy77
    @ItsTheGuy77 Před 3 lety +925

    This episode was dark, bleak & horrific & I loved every moment of it. THIS was the kinda stuff I was expecting from a show like this. Absolutely loved this what if scenario. And that bleak, depressing ending was the icing on the cake. Cause you know, Actual consequences.
    This episode just made me hyped af for the Doctor Strange sequel, Multiverse of Madness. Absolutely loved the horror tone of this episode & I hope the film goes all in.

    • @1kbmahan
      @1kbmahan Před 3 lety +20

      Probably the best episode in the series hands down. But I bet marvels gonna ruin this episode by doing unnecessary tie in besides making it a standalone episode. Cause this episode is Gold I loved it I really hope this isn’t a tie in for some future mcu stuff cause I don’t care

    • @ItsTheGuy77
      @ItsTheGuy77 Před 3 lety +2

      I wholeheartedly agree. Wish they'd leave this one as a standalone. But Apparently, and this is just a rumor right now, but most if not all the Heroes we've seen so far are gonna have like some big team up in the final episode. "Guardians of the Multiverse" is a name I keep hearing.
      So chances are, they're gonna try & "redeem" this Doctor Strange

    • @1kbmahan
      @1kbmahan Před 3 lety

      @@ItsTheGuy77 it’s cool to redeem characters sometimes but it’s a lot more impactful when there’s no turning back yes it’s super heroes and magic but there must be consequences that feel dark and true. Like it’s too late even if doctor strange didn’t want it to happen like this. It’s like real life you have good intentions but something messes up and you can’t fix it you just live with it. But it’s fine whatever they do

    • @Wizard_Pikachu
      @Wizard_Pikachu Před 3 lety +2

      Delightfully depressing.

    • @therealeverton
      @therealeverton Před 3 lety +1

      The great thing about the show isnitnis doing ALL the different types of What If...? Story. Dark,.comedic; big changes, almost no changes...as a reader of them,.it's brilliant.

  • @Kango234
    @Kango234 Před 3 lety +442

    The thing I loved about this episode was that he never really turned "evil". The entire time I was waiting for him to get possessed or start killing humans, but in the end it was just his arrogance that ended it all.
    I should clarify he's still a villain I don't know why people think I was defending him or anything. I was just expecting a more cliche take and I liked that every thing was his own choice instead of being corrupted by the demons or whatever.

    • @4no3bo3dy
      @4no3bo3dy Před 3 lety +38

      Yes, Totally Not Evil Strange Supreme, a Cronenberg amalgamation of every totally evil Lovecraftian horror he’s absorbed in the pursuit of More Power.

    • @Churro_Flaminguez
      @Churro_Flaminguez Před 3 lety +17

      dontcha know: cartoonish one-dimensional villains are so over. the best villains these days have relatable motivations instead of being comically eeeevil. even the Ancient One says something to that effect on this episode

    • @Lion-O-Richie2040
      @Lion-O-Richie2040 Před 3 lety +4

      Yeah and he’s still got all that power. I hope to see him utilise his new abilities in the big battle finale.

    • @jaminelvers7250
      @jaminelvers7250 Před 3 lety +6

      He straight up killed countless other scorcerers and creatures, how's that not evil?

    • @gabrielmcmahon9391
      @gabrielmcmahon9391 Před 3 lety +14

      He is doing everything with good intentions. The Ancient One says that he isn't evil, he is just misguided.

  • @caffeinebob4458
    @caffeinebob4458 Před 3 lety +130

    “What if the best of intentions has very…STRANGE consequences?”
    I just think it’s nice that Uatu knows how to pun.

  • @IcyDiamond
    @IcyDiamond Před 3 lety +132

    I like how the first two episodes were light and happy while the most recent two were pretty damn dark

    • @ChristianJayTheCTrain
      @ChristianJayTheCTrain Před 3 lety +21

      I mean, T'Challa's episode ends on a rather dark note. Ego finds Peter and more than likely uses him as a battery for his expansion back on his planet. And its not like T'Challa and the Ravangers keep track of Ego so there's no way they could find them and stop his plans. They're just doomed to die

    • @obyone878
      @obyone878 Před 3 lety +6

      @@ChristianJayTheCTrain Eh. There's plenty of ways that people could stop Ego. The collector no doubt knew about him.

    • @LAUGHINGRIOT
      @LAUGHINGRIOT Před 3 lety +2

      You again remember me

    • @92brunod
      @92brunod Před 3 lety +14

      @@obyone878 The Collector is implied to get brutally murdered by his collection

    • @ramadansteve1743
      @ramadansteve1743 Před 3 lety

      @@obyone878 eh

  • @DaAcorn
    @DaAcorn Před 3 lety +460

    I’d say technically the watcher didn’t interfere because doctor strange was gaining the ability to perceive the watcher without him having to do anything. So it’s more about doctor strange interfering. The watcher may not have even known he could hear him at that point.

    • @phabothadon7855
      @phabothadon7855 Před 3 lety +2

      Please re-explain this like I'm five....I don't know what you're trying to say, but I think I like it😭

    • @reymundbugas
      @reymundbugas Před 3 lety +46

      @@phabothadon7855 I think he means that Strange got too powerful to a point to be able to see the watcher, which means that the watcher did not interfere at all by all sense, he just had to speak to evil strange when evil strange spoke to him.

    • @Blynat
      @Blynat Před 3 lety +37

      @@phabothadon7855 Evil Strange kept stealing power from other magic beings and cosmic beings for a thousand of years. He went into the past to study where The Ancient one couldn't reach him. So he had been growing in power for many many years. So Strange go so powerful he was starting to be able to sense higher beings that are on a whole other level.

    • @bluesnake4626
      @bluesnake4626 Před 3 lety +15

      I think it was more like that the fabric of his reality become so broken and unraviled that he could litterly see the watcher who was just outside the universe. Its like after after making a hole in the wall you can now see anyone who is on the otherside.

    • @bern9642
      @bern9642 Před 3 lety

      @@Blynat centuries not thousands.

  • @rubenchavira6608
    @rubenchavira6608 Před 3 lety +184

    I been reading “what if” comics since I was young, this one is the one that felt the most in spirit with the comics. These other realities don’t always have a happy ending like the prime timeline. This goes in line of one of my favorite “what if” the one where “what if silver surfer held the infinity gauntlet”?

    • @rubaiyat300
      @rubaiyat300 Před 3 lety +8

      I do think the Dark Multiverse of DC takes that to heart. But honestly, I think there SHOULD be worlds better off than the "main" setting.
      Heck I'd argue the MCU to date is a vibrant kindergarten playground compared to the 616. Which is apt since 616 was chosen by Alan Moore as the designation for the main universe because of the idea 666 is a mistranslation...and 616 is the actual number...

    • @MatthewLevineFilm
      @MatthewLevineFilm Před 3 lety +11

      @@rubaiyat300 how is this a response to what ruben said at all

    • @Magnet_Chaos
      @Magnet_Chaos Před 3 lety +13

      To be fair. The T'Challa episode ended in a sour note after half an hour of frolicking in space flowers.

    • @tygovisser5626
      @tygovisser5626 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, the murder mystery was good but it felt more like a side story happening while main events unfold

    • @kylecampbell2164
      @kylecampbell2164 Před 3 lety +1

      @@rubaiyat300 lmao careful not to cut yourself with such an edgy comic bud

  • @selormtagbormorales9523
    @selormtagbormorales9523 Před 3 lety +160

    It'd be cool if the last episode was called something like "What If... The Watcher Interfered?" and they have him go back to previous episodes to change things up and bring characters to other universes.

    • @mr.moviemafia
      @mr.moviemafia Před 3 lety +20

      IMAGINE THAT’S THE FINAL EPISODE

    • @redswasted8624
      @redswasted8624 Před 3 lety +9

      That would be cool, but unfortunately they have already released all the episode titles
      (Edit) I guess they could’ve “lied” like they do in trailers sometimes

    • @nicktvhits
      @nicktvhits Před 3 lety +9

      @@redswasted8624no they didn’t release all the episode titles yet, they do it week by week.

    • @StormX6
      @StormX6 Před 3 lety +2

      There is that alternate 2012 Avengers Assemble scene but with Cap Carter, Evil Strange, and T’Challa Starlord together in the What If trailer, but I doubt it’ll actually happen.

    • @redswasted8624
      @redswasted8624 Před 3 lety

      @@nicktvhits a twitter account called MCU Source put out a tweet with all the episode titles around 2 weeks ago. Heavy Spoilers (on CZcams) made a video titled What If Theories around 2 weeks ago talking about it. Maybe it was fake 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @MrLarry
    @MrLarry Před 3 lety +695

    I really thought he was going to go back and wreck his relationship with Christine, leading to the events in the movie, which could have been an interesting twist on the what if concept. But I liked him becoming a beastie boy

    • @liampezzano
      @liampezzano Před 3 lety +44

      That was, essentially, what he did when he abandoned her that night, and the hospital exploded in order to kill her.

    • @MrLarry
      @MrLarry Před 3 lety +18

      @@liampezzano kind of, but in the movie their relationship has been over for a while. And like I said, it’s just where I thought it was going, doesn’t mean it would work within the constraints of the story

    • @dotails
      @dotails Před 3 lety +24

      I was thinking something similar while watching it I was like he's going to go back and give up something else he loves, in order to save her, that thing being his hands. It would have been a much more satisfying episode to know that the tragedy that was his life was the preferred life even though he didn't know it. It would help us be grateful for what we have not knowing how worse it could be if things were a little different which is the whole point of the show I think, at least it should have been.

    • @WaterMeLoan64
      @WaterMeLoan64 Před 3 lety +2

      He became a Marvel OC.

    • @sauce8277
      @sauce8277 Před 3 lety +1

      Wow that ending would have been so much better.
      Also, “beastie boy”. LUL

  • @KennethMWLi
    @KennethMWLi Před 3 lety +111

    I thought that the constant car crashes that Strange got into were assassination attempts by Hydra considering the mention of his name in Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

    • @starhound9354
      @starhound9354 Před 3 lety +8

      Except this would've been after Hydra's fall from grace in the Winter Soldier, so they would've been a bit more preoccupied with staying hidden instead.

    • @KennethMWLi
      @KennethMWLi Před 3 lety +12

      @@starhound9354 True, but if I'm correct, representatives of Hydra attempted to purchase Yellowjacket suits from Darren Cross in Antman, which takes place after the events of Captain America: The Winter Soldier. It wouldn't be too surprising if Hydra was still active every once in a while. Nevertheless, they probably were just random car accidents.

    • @starhound9354
      @starhound9354 Před 3 lety +4

      @@KennethMWLi That's true, though perhaps the heart attack and 'guy walks in a shoots' ones were attempts by them. A random diner and a secluded event are probably far better places to attempt an assassination. Just a shame Christine seems to be taking the brunt instead.

    • @stranger59
      @stranger59 Před 3 lety

      I kinda expected the swerve (hehe) to be another Dr. Strange just constantly running him off the road to stop him.

    • @oxygenconsumer1993
      @oxygenconsumer1993 Před 2 lety

      @@KennethMWLi Ant Man is before Captain America Civil

  • @krusnik94
    @krusnik94 Před 3 lety +182

    Dr Strange: Watcher I really need your help
    The Watcher: How about no

    • @ArlanKels
      @ArlanKels Před 3 lety +27

      The Watcher: What's my name, bitch?

    • @magicoA
      @magicoA Před 3 lety +41

      “I missed the part where that’s my problem”

    • @laxunderscoreaddict
      @laxunderscoreaddict Před 3 lety +5

      I read that in Maso's silly voice

    • @ItsTheGuy77
      @ItsTheGuy77 Před 3 lety +17

      The watcher: Gonna cry?

    • @Ineedgames
      @Ineedgames Před 3 lety +2

      Shut Up! I'm watching the Matrix.

  • @carealoo744
    @carealoo744 Před 3 lety +52

    In THIS timeline, Doctor Strange's girlfriend Has to die because this timeline represents the Question: 'What If Doctor Strange lost his Heart instead of his Hands?'
    This universe would act the same way if Doctor Strange tried to chop off his hands.

    • @just_doug
      @just_doug Před 3 lety +5

      Also, didn't she have to die because when she doesn't, strange doesnt learn the mystic arts and stop dormammu, so the universe ends. Like, I'm pretty sure that's why they made a point of saying that he definitely stopped dormammu after she died. By saving her he's basically merging into a timeline where the universe doesn't exist, which I figured was the goopy blackness.

  • @Lynch2507
    @Lynch2507 Před 3 lety +40

    I really liked the ending sequence of the world slowly collapsing in as the only actual light on-screen is Strange trying to keep reality from collapsing. That, with his desperate plea to The Watcher was honestly a highlight of the MCU as a whole.

  • @Audentior_Ito
    @Audentior_Ito Před 3 lety +55

    I loved the magic glowstick runes on Dr. Strange in the final fight; it was a great way to show danger/progress within a fight that would otherwise be completely arbitrary

  • @mkocel
    @mkocel Před 3 lety +111

    notice that the watcher says he cant interfere because the rest of the realities are too important to risk, maybe because he will come back for this version of strange to form some multiversal team

    • @the_belugaluga5286
      @the_belugaluga5286 Před 3 lety +13

      I’m from the future and you’re right. He assembles a team of heroes from a multitude of realities.

    • @BasedBrah10
      @BasedBrah10 Před 3 lety +20

      @@the_belugaluga5286 Somehow, Evil Dr. Strange returned.

    • @gabrielmcmahon9391
      @gabrielmcmahon9391 Před 3 lety +1

      That makes sense because he would need Strange Supreme to get as powerful as he can. He also needs the universe to be destroyed so that Strange will see the error of his ways and feel sorry

    • @videogamenostalgia
      @videogamenostalgia Před 3 lety +2

      I fully expect them to get one character from each episode and have them team up in the finale.

    • @jakeallen123
      @jakeallen123 Před 3 lety +1

      @@videogamenostalgia you're right

  • @arthand7672
    @arthand7672 Před 3 lety +35

    I do like how they've all seemed really different. Sometimes it's just a character swap, sometimes the universe is changed for the better, sometimes the universe changes for the worse, and now we've seen a change lead to the loss of an entire universe

  • @mikecameron6667
    @mikecameron6667 Před 3 lety +63

    This was a different universe. There were no continuity errors. Timelines and universes aren't the same thing.

  • @IfOUGHTpIRANHAz
    @IfOUGHTpIRANHAz Před 3 lety +146

    I saw Benedict on stage playing Frankenstein’s monster. He played him like a man with brain injury. Fantastic.

    • @enderostrich7507
      @enderostrich7507 Před 3 lety +24

      @@aweigh1010 no, this is Patrick

    • @Deltythe73rd
      @Deltythe73rd Před 3 lety +9

      Actually it's Frankenstein's monster's monster, common mistake.

    • @kadhimsadhiq7998
      @kadhimsadhiq7998 Před 3 lety +17

      @@Deltythe73rd Frankenstein's monster's monster sounds like the title of a porn movie

    • @mmhoss
      @mmhoss Před 3 lety +3

      @@aweigh1010 this whole comment tree is a psyop, Mr. "John Smith".
      We see through your little games Maso

    • @videogamenostalgia
      @videogamenostalgia Před 3 lety +8

      He wasn’t acting like a man with a brain injury that’s just what he’s like normally. All other Cumberbatch performances are just him acting really hard to not be like that.

  • @Holthis
    @Holthis Před 3 lety +77

    I think we didn’t experience any absolute points in time when we only had one timeline because there was so much more room for variance. I think the way branch realities work, the absolute points in time are those that define the identity of the branch reality.
    This branch is identified as the one where Christine Palmer dies and Stephen Strange becomes the Sorcerer Supreme, if she doesn’t die then the identity of this reality is ruined and the branch prunes itself.

    • @looneyduck121
      @looneyduck121 Před 3 lety +11

      Perfect explanation, almost exactly what I was thinking.

    • @Predatornc1
      @Predatornc1 Před 3 lety +2

      Wow. You might be right.

    • @SimonBuchanNz
      @SimonBuchanNz Před 3 lety +7

      I thought it was closer to the fact that her dying is the reason that he got access to the time stone in the first place. Like regular MCU Strange can't fix his hands.
      Endgame gets around it because they didn't prevent the thing that got them to time travel in the first place.

    • @WibblyWobblyChanel
      @WibblyWobblyChanel Před 3 lety +5

      Yeah, the absolute points could be the same ones as the nexus events, meaning that they are what created the timeline in the first place, and thus erasing them would also erase the timeline

  • @Ultinuc
    @Ultinuc Před 3 lety +31

    I like that they didn't make this just "what if Doctor Strange was EVILLLL" like it felt like he had a mostly understandable motivation and was still human (just cosmically stubborn with enough power not to be stopped

    • @jinxysaberk
      @jinxysaberk Před 14 dny

      i think that’s why the ending hurts so much too. His motivations haven’t been evil his actions of sacrificing more and more of his humanity is what was. By the time he realises what he’s done it’s too late and what’s worse is he’s now aware of his actions. He knows what he did and has to live with it

  • @Dan_G.R.S.
    @Dan_G.R.S. Před 3 lety +38

    As great as these videos are as background noise Collings has REALLY been working on the visuals, some genius and hilarious gags in there

    • @rawcollings
      @rawcollings Před 3 lety +36

      Damn thanks so much Dan. This one was a brutal late in the day turnaround and feeling really self conscious about it. But this comment helped no end so thank you. I’m afraid to say though that you have indeed been WATCHED B****!!!
      ❤️

  • @Johnny_JD
    @Johnny_JD Před 3 lety +51

    I think that in the MCU Sacred Timeline, Strange losing his hands is an absolut point but he doen't get together with Christine and that's how she gets to live.

    • @Beastinvader
      @Beastinvader Před 2 lety

      They missed an opportunity for DS2: Have evil Doctor Strange explain to Steven that without Good Steve's accident, Christine would die.
      That would have given him actual closer as to why he and Christine didn't end up together. He would have been content knowing she is alive.

  • @sirqxxvii8457
    @sirqxxvii8457 Před 3 lety +379

    Best episode so far, felt the most like the comics

    • @TheB00tyWarrior
      @TheB00tyWarrior Před 3 lety +6

      The only one I've watched so far. Wasn't interested in the first three

    • @BadWilf
      @BadWilf Před 3 lety

      Absolutely

    • @ulmerbrothers2076
      @ulmerbrothers2076 Před 3 lety

      I totally agree

    • @ItsTheGuy77
      @ItsTheGuy77 Před 3 lety +19

      This episode was dark, bleak & horrific & I loved every moment of it. THIS was the kinda stuff I was expecting from a show like this. Absolutely loved this what if scenario. And that bleak, depressing ending was the icing on the cake. Cause you know, Actual consequences.
      This episode just made me hyped af for the Doctor Strange sequel, Multiverse of Madness. Absolutely loved the horror tone of this episode & I hope the film goes all in.

    • @wisdomwielder
      @wisdomwielder Před 3 lety +11

      It took itself seriously instead of trying to shove in bad jokes during some dark, disturbing moments. Great episode.

  • @jimmymiller1313
    @jimmymiller1313 Před 3 lety +12

    During the "Christine constantly dies" montage, I was like, wow, Kang is just murdering her over and over.

  • @BlueZeroZeroOne
    @BlueZeroZeroOne Před 3 lety +227

    I've come o the conclusion that MAGIC TIME TRAVEL can alter history in the same timeline therefore changing the future, and QUANTUM TIMETRAVEL (ENDGAME) jumps you to a different timeline/or creates a branch at the point you travel to.
    So both could technically be canon variations of time travel in the MCU.

    • @laxunderscoreaddict
      @laxunderscoreaddict Před 3 lety +6

      Cept magic and science are the same according to Thor, sorry sucks to suck

    • @Lynch2507
      @Lynch2507 Před 3 lety +72

      @@laxunderscoreaddict Asgardian magic is essentially just advanced technology, but the magic that Strange and them use is definitely magic as we traditionally know it. Like, Asgard had hovercraft and shit lmao

    • @the_belugaluga5286
      @the_belugaluga5286 Před 3 lety +34

      Yep. Quantum Realm is about moving through the timeline kinda like teleportation. Mystic Time Travel is more like reversing time. It’s follows the traditional rules of time travel.

    • @zoser595
      @zoser595 Před 3 lety +2

      Nice observation

    • @KingsNJenssons
      @KingsNJenssons Před 3 lety +9

      So it's not magic magic it's the infinity stone but you are pretty much nail on the head but it's more like he is rewinding the universe than unlike in the movie where they jumped back in time

  • @FoxTashikata
    @FoxTashikata Před 3 lety +110

    "Another continuity error...."
    "LETS GO! FUCK THIS SHOW!"
    LMAO dead

  • @SpoonDude
    @SpoonDude Před 3 lety +42

    I’m assuming the absolute point in time where Christine just keeps dying is actually the branching off point of this timeline from the original. Thus- to undo that event and make it so that it never happened, would create a paradox that meant that timeline never branched off, ergo the universe stops existing

    • @zonesproductions
      @zonesproductions Před 3 lety +12

      He pruned the timeline while he was still in it 😬

    • @emtemt9450
      @emtemt9450 Před 3 lety +3

      I believe the branching off point happened earlier in the episode, if not before. As in the movie Christine is never in the car that was involved in the accident that damaged Strange's hands. The reason why Christine's death is an absolute point that cannot be undone is explained in the episode: preventing her death would create a paradox where Steven would've never been inspired to learn magic, defeat Dormamu, become sorcerer supreme and time travel to prevent her death

  • @reecejohnston9817
    @reecejohnston9817 Před 3 lety +19

    I liked how tempted the watcher was to interfere to save that universe, and that strange had grown so powerful and learned so much that he was able to speak to the watcher and be aware of his presence, it’s looking increasingly likely that the watcher will interfere eventually and mess something up

  • @ExiledQ
    @ExiledQ Před 3 lety +143

    This episode was able to introduce the idea of “absolutely events” because the timeStone controls time on an object-oriented basis (I.E. Apple-y visual) and rather than shooting back in time through the quantum quantumRealmy, he rewound himself back to that spot within his own timeline, which in turn DOES have more similar rules to ‘The Time Machine’ and ‘BTTF’. Hulks theory goes out the bloody window in this one. Paradoxes can exist here and they ravage the flippin univ.

    • @BubblesZap
      @BubblesZap Před 3 lety +5

      Yerp!! Good ole fixed points in time, really reminds me of Doctor Who tbh

    • @tygovisser5626
      @tygovisser5626 Před 3 lety +12

      So infinity stone and quantum time travel are two different types of time travel

    • @jonasquinn7977
      @jonasquinn7977 Před 3 lety +4

      See the way I interpreted it was that Christine’s death was the moment where, to borrow the TVA’s terminology, the Nexus Event reached the redline and as a result became far more difficult to undo and doing so would basically prune the reality because you’d be destroying its foundational pillar

    • @lyndsaybrown8471
      @lyndsaybrown8471 Před 3 lety +2

      This is really helpful, thank you! So, the time stone itself is only on a straight-line.

    • @johnreynolds7996
      @johnreynolds7996 Před 3 lety

      Somewhat like how Tenet allows a person to go backwards against the flow of time by reversing his/her entropy?

  • @Emilis2023
    @Emilis2023 Před 3 lety +17

    I don't know when the Watcher will step in, but I liked that this episode he basically set the conditions under which he would. He says that despite this universe's existence being threatened, it wouldn't be worth saving one universe at the risk of destabilizing all the others. I figure this is a set up for a future episode causing a threat to the entire multiverse causing the Watcher to decide it finally crosses the line.

  • @J0kerXD100
    @J0kerXD100 Před 3 lety +31

    I really thought Evil Dr. Strange was going to turn into a Mephisto looking demon when he was face absorbing all those dudes but the hybrid look was still awesome.

  • @jansenart0
    @jansenart0 Před 3 lety +130

    Watcher will never interfere; he only even interacted with Strange because Strange was so completely dissolved in ancient dangerous knowledge, forbidden rituals, and absorbed mystic essences, that he was able to perceive beyond the dimensions of his universe to the Watcher. Only Kang and the Time Keepers would also have the ability to perceive the Watcher.

    • @BTBSOUNDS
      @BTBSOUNDS Před 3 lety +31

      I figured it was because of the reason Sylvie hid out in apocalypses. The Watcher interacting with Strange would have no impact on the universe because the universe was going to be destroyed regardless. And Strange had already felt his presence and learned about him so revealing himself there wouldnt change smth there either

    • @jorg3023
      @jorg3023 Před 3 lety +2

      He is clearly fighting in the trailer

    • @catastrophecookies6066
      @catastrophecookies6066 Před 3 lety

      Kang has to show up at some point

    • @turbonerdo6838
      @turbonerdo6838 Před 3 lety +31

      "Watcher will never interfere"
      The Watcher interfered in the first comic he was ever in. It's a rule that Uatu breaks with regular frequency.

    • @mr.moviemafia
      @mr.moviemafia Před 3 lety +1

      And Stan Lee

  • @TonyCT7567
    @TonyCT7567 Před 3 lety +41

    This episode was just was wacky as the Doctor Strange comics get. I love it

  • @AlMoSiCe210
    @AlMoSiCe210 Před 3 lety +47

    This episode is DEFINITELY proof Marvel prepping us for the horrors in Multiverse of Madness.

  • @hhhieronymusbotch
    @hhhieronymusbotch Před 3 lety +6

    13:28 - I, for one, am glad they included footage of Marvel's most unappreciated hero... Pig rolling down a hill.

  • @Endgame_01
    @Endgame_01 Před 3 lety +24

    The Watcher is basically a peeping Tom. He's lucky Strange didn't try to absorb him which I thought might happen

    • @lyndsaybrown8471
      @lyndsaybrown8471 Před 3 lety +1

      Golly, now you put it that way, the stuff the Watcher has seen...

    • @JBrotsis1
      @JBrotsis1 Před 3 lety +5

      @@lyndsaybrown8471 don’t forget Heimdell. He too has seen…..a lot.

  • @perpetuallyuncomfortable
    @perpetuallyuncomfortable Před 3 lety +56

    Can't believe how far the universe was willing to go to keep Christine fridged.

    • @RetroIsaac
      @RetroIsaac Před 3 lety

      This episode really was the definition of fridging.

    • @perpetuallyuncomfortable
      @perpetuallyuncomfortable Před 3 lety +2

      @@RetroIsaac yeah, i really liked it otherwise but that was annoying.

    • @B1gBoyPants
      @B1gBoyPants Před 3 lety

      @@perpetuallyuncomfortablewhat else were they supposed to do? That was the whole concept of the episode.

    • @perpetuallyuncomfortable
      @perpetuallyuncomfortable Před 3 lety +1

      @@B1gBoyPantsI suspect the selling point was the Evil Strange vs. Good Strange fight, and he could've gone evil from nothing more than his desire to be the best and acquire knowledge; we've seen him be an asshole because of that. Christine could've broken up with him in every instance and he blamed the universe instead of himself. He could've been trying to save the world with Dark dimension energy like the Ancient One but gone too far. He could've been trying to prove something to Mordo. He could've been trying to protect the earth from some inevitable cosmic threat.
      Like I said in the replies, I enjoyed this episode, but I think suddenly making up a rule that says Christine has to die so her boyfriend can be great is a little lazy.

    • @B1gBoyPants
      @B1gBoyPants Před 3 lety

      @@perpetuallyuncomfortable I get what you mean, but at the same time they wanted the event that causes him to become evil to be something very personal to him, and what could be more personal than causing the death of a loved one?
      The whole point is that he can't change what made him Dr Strange in the first place, and if it was just that his hands had been messed up, then it doesn't really seem like that would be as believable of a motivation.
      But if, in this universe, him and Christine were still together, and he had caused her death through his recklessness, it seems much more believable that he would go to such drastic measures to undo his own mistake.
      I don't really see this as a classic case of fridging. I feel like if the episode had just been "what if Christine's death is what motivated Dr Strange," then yeah that would be annoying and 100% unnecessary and lame. But I feel like this episode actually explored this concept in a much more nuanced way. Like, what would it take to push Dr Strange over the edge? He felt immense guilt over causing someone's death and had no way of undoing it. He wants to be able to save everyone, but this time there's someone he can't save, and it's someone he deeply cares for.
      And we as the audience wouldn't have felt the same connection if it was just some random character who we had never seen before- like a kid or some person off the street or a family member we had never met. So it makes sense that they chose the person who Dr Strange has developed the closest connection to in the movies.

  • @TheDelinear
    @TheDelinear Před 3 lety +7

    Shuma Gorath: "I was happy, floating, living in the ocean"

    • @just_doug
      @just_doug Před 3 lety

      Poor Shuma, boi just wants to chill.

  • @josephmanifold9211
    @josephmanifold9211 Před 3 lety +3

    10:45 that timing is perfect with the zoom in on The Watcher 😆 the editing is god tier

  • @Kai_So_Fly
    @Kai_So_Fly Před 3 lety +56

    Strange: I KNOW YOU CAN FIX THIS. YOU’RE A GOD!
    Watcher: I missed the part where that’s my problem

  • @dangerleader
    @dangerleader Před 3 lety +46

    next week is apparently the Party Thor episode so if the Watcher interferes it’ll be to have a jolly time with Thor

    • @SimonBuchanNz
      @SimonBuchanNz Před 3 lety +11

      I hope party Thor defeats Hela with the power of party.

    • @fulcrum6760
      @fulcrum6760 Před 3 lety +7

      @@SimonBuchanNz He summons a giant disco ball.

    • @redswasted8624
      @redswasted8624 Před 3 lety

      Just got a vision of The Watcher downing a pint, smashing his glass on the floor and yelling “Another!” 😂

    • @DJmouchi777
      @DJmouchi777 Před 3 lety

      "What If...I got shitfaced with the God of Thunder?"

  • @bigverb8744
    @bigverb8744 Před 3 lety +3

    Mad that they left out the Dr Strange vs Corn of Coblin scene

  • @metalmayfantasy
    @metalmayfantasy Před 3 lety +20

    I hope, he will be in Multiverse of Madness, this episode was fantastic

    • @TheFunnyGuy9000
      @TheFunnyGuy9000 Před 3 lety +3

      I think misguided strange will fight normal strange each other again in NHW and/or Multiverse of Madness

  • @Jansenbaker
    @Jansenbaker Před 3 lety +26

    In the movie, Stephen and Christine kinda had something going on, but he was a narcissist, and once his hands were injured he doubted she really loved him.
    In this universe, however, they truly love each other, and the universe has to change accordingly. In the other, his hands were the influence to find Kamar-Taj, and would be an Absolute point in Time. Here it's Christine dying.

  • @crtg4672
    @crtg4672 Před 3 lety +44

    If the end of the universe didn't prompt the Watcher to step in, I can't imagine what events would force his hand.

    • @Lynch2507
      @Lynch2507 Před 3 lety +25

      The end of multiple universes?

    • @MichaelAChristian1
      @MichaelAChristian1 Před 3 lety +7

      He plays favorites with FANTASTIC FOUR is all!

    • @PulseAnimations878
      @PulseAnimations878 Před 3 lety +11

      @@MichaelAChristian1 "ehhh I can't interfere, buuuut these are my favorite guys!, Okokok just this once."

    • @rubaiyat300
      @rubaiyat300 Před 3 lety +5

      @@PulseAnimations878 He IS a fanboy. His monologue during the Onslaught storyline is proof of that.

    • @Hu-uw4hz
      @Hu-uw4hz Před 3 lety +3

      Zombies will, they eventually look for other Universes to eat

  • @TomsSauce
    @TomsSauce Před 3 lety +4

    His transformation into Corn of Coblin was something else

  • @supremeguykai
    @supremeguykai Před 3 lety +30

    Blink and you'll miss it: Corn of Coblin is actually the snack break he takes right before absorbing the first being and THAT'S how he survives for hundreds of years

  • @panmush
    @panmush Před 3 lety +2

    Shoutouts to THE GREAT RAWCOLLINGS for the Twilight Zone Doc Oct edit! Restarted the video 10
    Times just to enjoy it. GOLD

  • @Reidlos1773
    @Reidlos1773 Před 3 lety +13

    This episode left me speechless, and made me craving more!

  • @nealenthenerd399
    @nealenthenerd399 Před 3 lety +2

    10:49 I am laughing too hard at the dramatic timing of that editing

  • @kieran10202
    @kieran10202 Před 3 lety +5

    In the last episode, the Watcher goes back in time and introduces Christine to James Marsden, thus fixing the timeline.

  • @purplemonkydishwasher
    @purplemonkydishwasher Před 3 lety +2

    Animated JACK KIRBY CRACKLE was amazing to see!

  • @sauce8277
    @sauce8277 Před 3 lety +12

    The Ancient One is dead and still surprises me with her problem solving ideas and skills. She indeed has to be a candidate for wisest character in the MCU.

    • @belac.howard8295
      @belac.howard8295 Před 3 lety +4

      She has more impact dead than Black widow does

    • @sauce8277
      @sauce8277 Před 3 lety

      @@belac.howard8295 lollll true

    • @deanospimoniful
      @deanospimoniful Před 3 lety +1

      She's a good planner. Wouldn't be surprised if she impacts the next Dr. Strange movie.

    • @sauce8277
      @sauce8277 Před 3 lety

      @@deanospimoniful Oh man, I wonder….

  • @McFazzer
    @McFazzer Před 3 lety +3

    I really liked the Kirby energy blasts with the dots that Evil Strange used (Strange Supreme in the subtitles). It made me think “could this effect work in live action?”

  • @LachM2011
    @LachM2011 Před 3 lety +9

    When watching this episode I couldn't stop making Steins Gate jokes.
    Every time Strange time traveled I went "Oh no the watch is broken"

  • @lightingmcqueen522
    @lightingmcqueen522 Před 3 lety +3

    The watcher talks about not interfering like he’s gonna get fired from some cosmic job

  • @melvinlinderoth7108
    @melvinlinderoth7108 Před 3 lety +4

    Did James finally find his catchphrase in this video. Just in time for podcast episode 401, would love to hear him shout you got watched bitch at the end of every episode

  • @hellothere8208
    @hellothere8208 Před 3 lety +10

    The whole Christine dying in because it is an absolute point of time reminded me of Steins Gate.
    Where spoiler......
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    One of the characters dies and the main character tries to save her with time travel but every time he goes back he will always fail.
    She dies multiple ways but the end result is the same. Because her death is a constant in that timeline.

  • @jeromychason107
    @jeromychason107 Před 3 lety +6

    Jeffrey Wright has an amazing voice... and yet another actor who plays a character in both Marvel and DC Studio properties. I really liked this episode, the ending hit me different... losing everything you love in spite of all your best, or worst, efforts... that's real

  • @GreekJR2
    @GreekJR2 Před 3 lety +7

    I was convinced that the episode was gonna end with Dr. Strange learning that he'd have to give up something incredibly important to him to get Christine back which would have lead to his hands being destroyed instead which would have brought the episode full circle with the MCU. I think it's possible that this will happen later on in What if...

    • @jd1800
      @jd1800 Před 3 lety +2

      That's a cool idea, but wouldn't that make it canon to the main universe and therefore not a "what if..."?

    • @GreekJR2
      @GreekJR2 Před 3 lety

      @@jd1800 My response is: does that matter?

    • @jd1800
      @jd1800 Před 3 lety +2

      @@GreekJR2 It would technically make the title a misnomer, but other than that one nitpick, I guess not.
      If they did want to show a mix of non-canon stories and previously unseen canon events I would be cool with that.

    • @GreekJR2
      @GreekJR2 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jd1800 Technically the show is already a misnomer because they are all canon, they just don't take place in the universe we've been watching for the last ten years. It should be called "What if.." but instead "Things that happened differently in other universes."

    • @cgijokerman5787
      @cgijokerman5787 Před 3 lety +1

      @@GreekJR2 that's what the what if comics are though

  • @Thenesrookie
    @Thenesrookie Před 3 lety +3

    I think the best part about this episode is that you could only do it to this level in animation (and not just because it has an unlimited budget 😏)
    When I think of the other episodes I thought "yeah this is cool but why is it even animated if its not taking advantage of some the amazing visuals that could made". But wow that absorbing montage was just incredible. I wish this is what the show had always been.

  • @BarbaDjole
    @BarbaDjole Před 3 lety +1

    Can we appreciate how awesome the soundtrack was in this episode.

  • @moonverine
    @moonverine Před 3 lety +28

    Seeing this episode cemented my long-held theory that the real hero of the next phase of the MCU wont be Strange or Wanda or whatever, but Uatu. Uatu will be guiding Strange and the Avengers in their battle against Kang. You heard it here first, folks.

    • @garrettcarter5622
      @garrettcarter5622 Před 3 lety

      That would be strange considering he's famous for doing that but with GALACTUS.

    • @zoser595
      @zoser595 Před 3 lety

      @@garrettcarter5622 Well, in the comics, Uatu has the same role but he is limited to his own universe (the 616, there are multiple Watchers throughout the Marvel comic multiverse). In the MCU, they essentially “promote” him into watching the movies Multiverse.

    • @qwertyferix
      @qwertyferix Před 3 lety +2

      They're clearly setting up Squirrel Girl to be the next main hero, not Uatu.

    • @creed8712
      @creed8712 Před 3 lety +1

      Was it said in the show this is Uatu? I personally would like the idea of it just being another watcher since it’s kinda weird two multiversal observers have the same name

    • @allanfallucci9269
      @allanfallucci9269 Před 3 lety +2

      Heard that way before you there, bud. Don’t pay yourself on the back too much

  • @TheKingDagon108
    @TheKingDagon108 Před 3 lety +2

    I like how Strange's beard becomes evil too

  • @AdamTensei
    @AdamTensei Před 3 lety +3

    The B Plot for the series is the Watcher's character arc as a person. Constantly being shown the call to action and rejecting it but, despite his "responsible stance", can't help but feel like he should do something; because he knows he can.

  • @beanman3113
    @beanman3113 Před 3 lety +1

    Animation wise, this might be my favourite episode so far. Especially with a bunch of the monsters and spells being 2D animated, it just looks so cool!

  • @Firmus777
    @Firmus777 Před 3 lety +3

    Strange: I didn't mean for this to happen!
    The Watcher: Well a bit late for that now, innit mate?

  • @Arkios64
    @Arkios64 Před 3 lety +12

    I'm really disappointed that James, the man that knows everything about Anime, didn't point out one of the possible solutions for the time paradox. Steins;Gate did this exact plot ages ago, and Okabe Rintarou/Kououin Kyouma solved the paradox whilst being arguably a bumbling idiot who just happened to construct a working time machine he didn't even fully understand the functionality of; and all of it without magic or an endless library to help him.
    And even aside from PRETENDING that his girlfriend died, with ACTUAL MAGIC there are so many ways to get around the fixed point.
    First of all, IS the fixed point even her death? Clearly, breaking his hands would also work just fine, so just do that. Alternatively, what about necromany after the fact? Teleporting her to an emergency room straight after Strange notices her being dead? Replacing her with a replica dead body during the crash? Splitting her in two and letting one of them die?
    There are so many ways to solve this without going full warlock on the universe.

    • @hollandscottthomas
      @hollandscottthomas Před 3 lety +5

      True points, but it's also a defining trait of Strange's arrogance that he thinks only he personally can fix something, so I can accept him being blinded to other more reasonable options.

    • @probablyseth3565
      @probablyseth3565 Před 3 lety +1

      First no breaking his hands wouldn't work, because this isn't prime timeline doctor strange where his hands being janky is likely the fixed point in time, in this the fixed point in time is different and will always happen no matter what. Splitting her in half? Both of her will die. Placing a fake body? The actual one will die in an unrelated way etc etc the only one you said that would probably work is necromancy because you wouldn't be messing with time you would be reviving her in the present. But even then we don't know if strange even has access to necromancy.

  • @lishtins
    @lishtins Před 3 lety +10

    I forgot how good the doctor strange movie was like the chemistry between wong and strange. Also I love how they used some comic art style for the magic animations. And the monster montage

  • @BadWilf
    @BadWilf Před 3 lety +1

    The pig rolling down the hill was a nice touch 😂

  • @simonshephard3834
    @simonshephard3834 Před 3 lety +10

    Shuma-Gorath is a Great Old One, I don't remember him being the sorcerer sumpreme of any dimension, by nature the title is of a guardian figure. Shuma literally eats other dimensions.

  • @lo_d_rocket-1212
    @lo_d_rocket-1212 Před 3 lety +1

    This was by far my favourite episode, absolutely loved it and the feels were incredible

  • @ZiemakAttack
    @ZiemakAttack Před 3 lety +6

    My interpretation was that the reason Christine’s death was considered an absolute point was because her death is what triggered the creation of this new reality, and was the catalyst for Doctor Strange gaining powers in this universe. Doctor Strange not only trying to bring her back to life, but trying to reverse the events that led to her death, was basically him trying to reverse the event that created that universe in the first place, therefore it was destroyed when he was actually successful

  • @actualltrashh
    @actualltrashh Před 3 lety +1

    It's an absolute point in time in the universe they are in, just as strange crashing and ruining his hands would be an absolute point in our timeline. :)

  • @baconsoap2616
    @baconsoap2616 Před 3 lety +20

    I like the atmosphere in this one it was more depressing than the other ones

  • @milk1535
    @milk1535 Před 3 lety +22

    The TVA when Loki uses the tesseract: Real shit???
    The TVA when Dr Strange destroys a universe by messing with time: i schleep

    • @Whiteythereaper
      @Whiteythereaper Před 3 lety +13

      It's post-the sacred timeline

    • @MysteriousMrL
      @MysteriousMrL Před 3 lety +1

      ​@@Whiteythereaper Even if it wasn't, doesn't this reality essentially prune itself anyway? At least it doesn't lead to a variant Kang, and we know stopping those coming into existence was the real purpose of the TVA. So I imagine they'd see this timeline on their monitors and just kind of shrug when the branch suddenly stops on its own.

  • @andreweverett
    @andreweverett Před 3 lety +26

    I came for the analysis of my favorite segment: "the watcher is watching for now, but when will he intervene even though he said he wouldn't" I give it a 2 out of 10 this week.

    • @adoniscreed4031
      @adoniscreed4031 Před 3 lety +1

      2 out of 10? they came up with "you got watched bitch" that shit is hilarious 😂

  • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
    @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Před 3 lety +3

    It can still be an Absolute Point in time AND there can be infinite universes where the Absolute Point is different. Infinity is so massive that it contains infinite other infinities (which Maso hinted to). The point of this series is to showcase some of those alternate realities where really anything can and will happen. I think these universes don't necessarily have to be branched realities from the Sacred Timeline either. They could be some of the infinite universes that already existed outside of the Sacred Timeline that Kang managed to isolate and control.

  • @johnprice2416
    @johnprice2416 Před 3 lety +17

    One of the MCU's darkest moments without a doubt.

  • @mth1022
    @mth1022 Před 3 lety +1

    This was definitely my favorite episode so far. It was really the only one that felt like it had weight to it, where the change mattered, and that you actually got to sit with the idea and its impact/consequences. Last week's premise was good but the result/conclusion felt rushed so ultimately, the Avengers being killed off felt like it didn't matter (maybe a two-parter would've been better) but here, the whole episode was about how the change affected Strange and the consequences were the focus. Best use of the "What If?" idea yet and the most invested I've been in an episode.

  • @BetweenTheLyons
    @BetweenTheLyons Před 3 lety +8

    If I had to guess, the reason the point in time is absolute is because it's the one thing that differentiates that universe from another particular universe, to copy another universe's timeline would probably result in some catastrophic event, in MCU terms. Although the supreme being was able to split the timeline, so who cares 🤷‍♂️

    • @ben.patrick
      @ben.patrick Před 3 lety

      The ancient one split the timeline at the point where strange picked up the time stone to reverse his gfs death. Im assuming she cant split the timeline for hard events, which are unique to each individual universe.

    • @arthand7672
      @arthand7672 Před 3 lety

      I think in this particular case, it destroyed the universe because without strange becoming the sorcerer supreme the world would have been drawn into the dark dimension.
      It wasn't clear to me if the world was being destroyed because they tried to change the fabric of reality, or if it was becoming one with the dark dimension because that's what would have happened without strange.

    • @rubaiyat300
      @rubaiyat300 Před 3 lety +1

      The premature death of a universe resulted in the Incursions, ie Crisis on Infinite Marvel Earths. And I have a feeling that will be the endgame for this era of movies.

  • @woebegone_kenobi
    @woebegone_kenobi Před 3 lety +1

    The never ending mention of Corn of Coblin gives me so much life

  • @Green__Man
    @Green__Man Před 3 lety +8

    I loved it when Dr. Strange heard The Watcher talking and The Watcher's just like "Oh shi- 👀"

  • @Dhamz90
    @Dhamz90 Před 3 lety +1

    3:58 The car Dr. Strange is driving is definitely supposed to be the same Huracan model that is in the films, you can tell by the compact shape and distinctive V10 engine noise. I feel animators either got the doors wrong or just wanted to exaggerate them for the animation.

  • @kadirgarib3459
    @kadirgarib3459 Před 3 lety +3

    I really wanted this episode to effectively be a "prequel" to the film, covering strange sacrificing his relationship and hands for Christine's survival, breaking the absolute point in time and making a new standard for his life's timeline.
    Because as it stands, this absolute point in time thing makes no sense if we're to believe that an alternate universe where he doesn't lose her exists yet somehow it can't the accessed/replicated by this universe's strange.
    Definitely my favorite episode so far but making it go full circle with the film would've made it perfect

    • @fredrikandersson1893
      @fredrikandersson1893 Před 3 lety +1

      I think it made some sense, if he lost his hands but she was still alive then he wouldn't have the motivation to become the sorcerer supreme because he still had her and that's why she had to die.

    • @kadirgarib3459
      @kadirgarib3459 Před 3 lety

      @@fredrikandersson1893 In the original film they aren't in a relationship, which is what I mean by "sacrificing his relationship" as well, so he becomes the sorcerer supreme thanks to his lost hands

  • @silhouettecity7804
    @silhouettecity7804 Před 3 lety

    You have one of the best editors in the game and I don't know if he gets enough credit for the funny stuff he puts in the videos

  • @Mitsuraga
    @Mitsuraga Před 3 lety +7

    Is Rachel McAdams interested in time travel? Is that what's going on, here?
    Anyway, I took her death as an absolute point in time to mean that this timeline branch of the multiverse (in part) only really exists because she died. If that gets taken away, then this timeline becomes redundant, or like... in some way or another, this dimension can't exist without (one of) the foundational event(s) that formed the dimension in the first place.

  • @GC-ps9mn
    @GC-ps9mn Před 3 lety +1

    I really appreciate the pig rolling down a hill aka Mason reference.

  • @NathanS__
    @NathanS__ Před 3 lety +3

    These big squid 🦑 monsters from hell just keep reminding me of the first Hellboy movie.

  • @josephbirhall3109
    @josephbirhall3109 Před 3 lety +3

    Okay but Dr. Strange's line about peter living two different lives makes me feel like thats how they will explain multiple spider men rather than an evil dr. strange also could be an absolute point of his identity being revealed

    • @TheGreenEyedMoose
      @TheGreenEyedMoose Před 3 lety

      I think people are taking this line too literally I think his two lives are where he’s trying to balance his life as Peter Parker and his life as Spider-Man

    • @josephbirhall3109
      @josephbirhall3109 Před 3 lety

      @@TheGreenEyedMoose I could definitely see that but it could also explain the reasoning behind adding more rules to time like absolute points and all that

    • @TheGreenEyedMoose
      @TheGreenEyedMoose Před 3 lety

      @@josephbirhall3109 I think it might be more of a setup for multiverse of madness rather than no way home or at least a hint to what’s coming. Nothing is never accidental or done without care or forward thinking in the MCU but usually the simplest explanations are the right ones. Like all the theories for Wandavison on it being Myphisto when people were just overthinking it

  • @andrewmcclamroch867
    @andrewmcclamroch867 Před 3 lety +3

    Liked for the Corn on Coblin reference

  • @evanevans5428
    @evanevans5428 Před 3 lety +2

    The cape fight was dope. And as much as I love Cloaky(literally rip), Evil Cloaky was pretty f'n cool too.

    • @andhe
      @andhe Před 3 lety +1

      I like that this means there are potentially a whole bunch of sentient capes...

    • @evanevans5428
      @evanevans5428 Před 3 lety

      @@andhe MCU= Multiple Cape Universe

  • @kevinkubica2989
    @kevinkubica2989 Před 3 lety +7

    Now that you mention the No Way Home Doctor Strange is the evil version theory: I'm inclined to believe that it's not true. Generally speaking, with the MCU the simplest answer is usually what they go with. Meaning regular ol' Strange is just being a helpful, but arrogant, mentor to Peter. But to play devil's advocate here... 🤨 I want to point out that people around the internet have been wondering why Doctor Strange is even wearing the Eye of Agamotto in the NWH trailer. Evil Strange still has the eye in his timeline 🤔and messing up the multiverse might be a great way to ultimately get what he wants which is to bring Christine Palmer back. Not saying that these factors alone are proof, gods know NWH might already be too bloated between adapting One More Day AND Spider-verse AND setting up Multiverse of Madness but I like this theory more than the "Strange was actually Mephisto all along!" twist.

  • @blacksheep9950
    @blacksheep9950 Před 2 lety

    I feel like an important part of this episode is that it sets where the Watcher's line is. A whole universe gets destroyed along with everyone in it, and he's just "yeah, that sucks" but he has no problem letting it happen. It's not until something is a threat to the multiverse that he needs to interfere.