I Am Getting Rid of My SSL Controllers Because…..(The Last Reason Crushed My Soul 🥺🗑️😡)
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In this video, I reveal the 5 BIG reasons why I swapped my SSL controller for Softube's Console 1. We'll dive deep into the features that make Console 1 a game-changer for music producers, from its intuitive interface to its powerful processing.
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The limitations of traditional SSL controllers (Spoiler: There are more than you think!)
Why Console 1 offers a faster and more efficient workflow
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i’ve bought the uf1, uc1, uf8 and even the interface!! besides the fusion .. and i’m not enjoying this! Like he says, all i want is to make music and not troubleshoot every time
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I use Pro Tools and Logic and the SSL controllers work flawlessly. I've owned the euphonix controllers, Console 1, avid s3 and dock. The SSL controllers have been my favorite especially now that I can map any plug in. I don't know what issues you have with Logic but haven't found any limitations. As far as CPU percentages. 45 percent doesn't mean for your whole system, It means in comparison to your other apps. My activity monitor says SSL 45 percent but my SYSTEM CPU says USER- 13 to 17 percent with Pro tools and SSL 360 open. I'm using a Mac Studio Ultra. Not one issue with the system.
If you like the workflow of the console 1 mk3 then awesome but I find your issues with the SSL stuff a bit misguided.
Thank you. I run heavy sessions with many plugs and as soon as I got rid of 360 everything started working. I’ll have to message SSL. Thank you for the info mate
Logic / SSL 360 user since day one with the same configuration...
This is rock solid !
How’s the CPU consumption? Thank you Fred.
@@_TheModernCreative I have the same numbers with analyzer from Flux, but it really doesn't have an impact on the overall performance of the machine.
I am running 164 tracks of audio, I don t count plugins and how heavy it is , tons of aux ! And my UF8 scrolls smoothly through all of that !!
The last update was huge and addressed a few minor bugs.
If you have a problems running logic with a controller, it is not the controller...
Thx dude
I'm feeling like sharing. Ok so i bought a StudioLive 32s, and work with ALL 2nd gen StudioLive 32 or 64. I use my StudioLive 32s in DAW mode. I have mapped the 8-knobs from my StudioLive 32 to the SSL UC1 Channel Strip(s), I then mapped the buttons below the knobs on the StudioLive 32s to the push buttons on the Channel Strips(s) also. This has to be done from the DAW you work in (I use Studio One Pro 6), and not from SSL 360. This allows me to still work in 360 by using the knobs and buttons just like the UC1 does. So just map it all on the StudioLive 32s in DAW Mode from your DAW Software and when you open SSL 360 you can still turn the knobs and buttons on the StudioLive 32s and it will control everything in the SSL 360 without the UC1, UF8 etc...! Basically, the SSL 360 is pulling the control from the channel strip in your DAW even though it shows the movement when you're in the SSL 360 Software! ENJOY GUYS...! I enjoy tactile movement in SSL 360 and enjoy all 32 faders along with User function buttons on my StudioLive 32s.... ITS AN AMAZING WORKFLOW!!!!!!!!!
Thx for sharing
same here! tried it 4 months all 3 modules, thrown it out. back again on c1, mk3 now. seamless smooth workflow. looking forward get f1 mk2.
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I was a Console 1/Fader user (now SSL user) but I’m still curious to see what the new fader banks will bring.👍🏾
@@doodoogtube CPU good? What DAW are you on? Just curious.
@@doodoogtube I wish they would come out with a 20 fader unit to go along with my MK3 ... I have fader 1 with current MK2 but it sure would be nice to have more faders. pretty sure it will be 11 like the last but I'll keep dreaming of more faders.
Can you share the make/model for the stand you show briefly, early on in the video? Thanks, and best of luck switching to Softube!
Gibraltar stand
I don’t use Logic, but I do use Ableton and I have all the SSL modules plus (2) UF8’s & the SSL 12 audio interface and I’m solid as a rock and loving every day with no issues. Everything that I asked for it delivers and then some. I was a Console 1 MKll user with 20 faders and had no issues as well but the SSL eco-system just offered and gave me so much more. Plus, since they merge with Harrison audio and Slate plug-ins, it just keeps giving and giving and giving… Now, when I create music, I don’t even think about gear, controllers or the “latest & greatest” shiny new plug-ins, because I have everything I will ever need…and I mean everything.
That being said, I do believe you’re having issues and I believe it may do with logics compatibility. I remember seeing a chart where Logic and another DAW not having as much compatibility (yet) as the other DAWs. So if you’re locked into logic and that’s your DAW of choice and it’s not working for you, you gotta do what you gotta do to make your workflow fit you.
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Thank you CHIEF!!!! 🙏💪
Thanks for the video.Whats that stand you were using to hold up your softube console1 mk iii
I like this one mate but any VESA mount should work: VIVO Premium VESA Single 17 to 32... www.amazon.com/dp/B074P7Y9ZG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Still loving my Avid, EuCon Artist Series control surfaces with Logic Pro X!
Works well? Stable? Thx for sharing. What is the price point?
Whatever works for you, but:
1. The screenshot shows that the CPU used by all apps is 9,2%. Hence the complaint about 46% for 360 is just misreading the figures.
2. Desk Space. Yes, the controllers take up some space, but couldn‘t you have figured this out upfront?
3. You don’t mention the SSL plugins that come with the controllers? This is actually the real value of the combo, e.g with UC1 you get channel strip, bus compressor and 4KB tightly integrated with the hardware. Plus the virtual console 360.
I get that mate. As I mentioned to other comments, as soon as I uninstalled 360…my system is running smoothly. Appreciate it though. Think it’s an issue with Logic Pro. Good find on #3 - 🙏💪🔥💯
My guy. SSL 360 was using 46% of the 9% your entire total of apps was using. It was only using 4.14%....
Dude for real. All my sessions were broken. Playhead stuck. Only thing I did was uninstall 360 and everything is running smoothly. Will look into it. Someone said the latest update helps. We shall see….
@@_TheModernCreative It's been pretty solid here. Granted I've only been on it since v1.4. I bought them up in the summer last year. It's been pretty stable. Only thing is that sometimes I do have to delete the controllers and "re-add" them sometimes because of the Mackie protocol. I will say though that I haven' that to clear the preference list for it though.
That’s not too bad. Thx for sharing man.
BOOM! Exactly!
I have a pretty small desk and the size is the main thing that has stopped me from getting these. That cpu usage is pretty crazy too but also why is Evernote using so much cpu?
lol not sure but I usually turn that off as well.
Works perfectly fine for me on logic
Thank you Miguel 🙏💯💪🔥🔥
You complain about things you could have figured out before hand.
Really though? 😳
SSL works flawlessly with logic. You’re worrying about things that don’t matter. Console 1 is good but I reckon you’ll get over that too. Plus SSL can now control any plugin, console 1 cannot.
It’s coming in a future update this year
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You can use Console 1 as a generic midi controller (at least the Mk2). But it is more limited in functionality that way.
Mk3 can control any vst sooooooo…. 🤷🏿♂️
@@blkgostnone4092 I love my Console 1 MK2 and Fader 1 ... just ordered MK3 .... combination of having Softube plugins and UAD plugins and now Fabfilter is just about all I need... its packed with more than enough and is my main studio workhorse. when I grab the EQ, shape, gate, compressor, channel select etc. its right there, no steps, just grab and tweek.
using UC1&UF1 with logic pro,bitwig,ableton and its rock solid. i have ssl 12 too. The best integration out of these daw is Bitwig hands down. However it opens up vst3 for Logic. Got m1 max macbook pro and never had any problems with cpu consumption or stuttering playhead using 360 having more than 130 tracks with different plugins and channel strips. UC1 with 360 and michelangelo from tone projects mapped is pure magic!!.
Thx for that sir. 🙏👍💯🔥
Drawer shelf for computer keyboard and mouse maybe?
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I like this video. It helps people think before buying. In all fairness though. SSL provides the dimensions of their controllers. If you purchased it and then found it took up too much desk space, that's on the purchaser for not doing their proper research, due diligence. I mean everyone should know what their desk can or can't accommodate. The same can be said for some of the other points you made. Regarding the redundancy comments, once you figured that out, why not just return the other controllers? Lessons learned? Do your research thoroughly prior to purchasing any gear you buy.
46.6% CPU usage. You don't mention your CPU or memory specs. That can make a big difference. I noticed you use UAD. Depending on how many plugins you use, CPU usage can be well above 46.6 percent. You need to uninstall Evernote by the way. you said anything that uses over 30% CPU 🙂
Mac Studio: Does your's use the M2 chip? M1? older? I am using an Intel i9 series CPU along with 64GB of ram. My SSL 360core CPU utilization tops out at 15%
I use Pro Tools and Luna. From a daily experience, I can say that the SSL U8F works great on those platforms. As is true with any gear, it's not a one size fits all type thing.
Thx for sharing. On an M1 and things are running smoothly now that I uninstalled. You never know I might try again someday. I love tech so no love lost. Cheers!!!
I know a guy who's multi-platinum, has billions of views and he just uses a laptop and doesn't need any of this stuff. He doesn't even care about the faders because it has no relevance in a song that already has 100 lanes of automation. He just clicks the mouse and types in 0.2 dB. Don't forget that having a good idea is more powerful than your whole studio of equipment.
Well said 🙏
Who?
I feel sad for his sterile tactile moves. very cold approach to a mix. And writing automation lanes without fades is slow. 10 fingers and flow always win
This is so so true..but he did mention it was slowing down his creative flow which in turn relates to your statement
The SSL using large CPU power is a whole nother issue of concern and when I start using logic, I am good with eucon and my Avid controllers
What stand do you have your console 1 on that let it raise and lower like that?
Sorry for late reply. Been putting in work. Here is a link to the stand for Console 1: amzn.to/3QVDU24
Thank you so much.
I don't own any SSL controllers but I did have a look at them in store. Nice looking pieces of equipment. I didn't invest in them for a few reasons. The UC1 is huge and takes up way too much real estate for what it is designed to do. The UF1 in my opinion did not need the screens as I have all the information I need within my projects in front of me on the computer monitor. They could of made better use of that real estate with other functionality. As for the UF8... well that was a huge let down from the get go. No dedicated transport controls lol.... I guess they enticed their customers to eventually purchase the UF1 after release as that came with transport controls. Design and marketing strategy? Who knows. I could mention more but I'm just glad I didn't invest in their eco system.
Does seem like a marketing ploy from the start. Cheers! 🙏
You seem to have a lot of very negative but conflicting views. Your CPU usage is still less than half, and you also have Evernote running, using about 30% CPU - try turning that off while you're recording. Also, while you're complaining about the Mackie Control Protocol - if I'm not mistaken, the Softube Console system also uses that very same system. I know people who have been running the SSL ecosystem for many months now, and yes, using Logic Pro mostly - and not a single complaint. Well, maybe a few complaints about potential improvements early on, but SSL seem to be very responsive and virtually all requests have been listened to and implemented in recent updates to the firmware and the 360 software. Me? I'm just about to ditch my Behringer X-Touch systems and get the SSL ones, after seeing friends using it happily and flawlessly. Have you perhaps considered not running an external DAW controller at all, if you strive for simplicity? Just use the good old mouse and/or Wacom pen or similar?
Console 1 works great and is simple (which I need). As soon as uninstalled 360 and ditched controllers my system is working flawlessly. Think it had to do with Logic Pro integration. Best of luck with controllers. Blessings!
the angst....
Bumping into mic stands, running out of desk space...SSL really are a crock of shit 🤨
How have things been since you opted out?
I’m enjoying the ease of workflow. These products should make our lives easier for sure. Thx for asking. Blessings! 🙏👍💪💯🔥
100% agree, tech hiccups destroy creativity. 👍🙏😎
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So ur total pc usage is 12 percent from what i see in the screenshot. And 46 percent of that is ssl so i think u read the metric incorrect lol
The only metric I am considering is that my computer wasn’t working and I got to finish a ton of projects. As soon as I turned off and uninstalled SSL 360, everything was fixed. Pretty sure it’s a problem with Logic pro. Thanks 🙏
there's a wheezing sound in your video all the time
Thank you. Not sure if it is a cable or a piece of gear. Will look into it. My Video editor has been picking it up for some time
@@_TheModernCreative I can recommend to try a power conditioner, often this comes over the electricity
or a cable is not plugged in properly.
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The amount of videos like this which I’ve seen about the SSL controllers backs up everything you’re saying. I’ve seen zero reviews saying ‘everything works flawlessly, this is such incredible value for money’. Until I hear chatter like that from loads of people, I’m staying well away.
I also feel like electronic hardware gets outdated suuuuper quickly. They plummet in value 2-3 years after purchase.
On point @zuul1701
I’ve had zero issues with my uc1 and uf1 and both work flawlessly with Logic…7 days a week use for months…no problems 💁
@@StudioLife101 you’re definitely the exception to the rule. I haven’t found any review video with your claim.
@@StudioLife101 🙏 do you run dense sessions with heavy track count? Just curious.
@@_TheModernCreative Yep…usually 30 plus tracks often over 50…channel strips on most 👍
Mac users :D
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You are out of your mind
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if desk space is an issue i'd advise getting rid of the controllers, buy a 27 inch touch screen monitor and host the SSL 360 application on it. Instant hands on control, no banking, no having to click through layers just simple straight forward no unnecessary barriers. You can have direct interaction and see the knobs you are turning. Works for me just like a console.