Les Paul Vs SG [Four Awesome Guitars, Four Classic Amps]

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  • What’s your favourite - Les Paul or SG?
    Welcome to the show! It’s with some surprise when we say that - despite an embarrassment of lovely electronical guitars - TPS has been devoid of a dual-humbucker Gibson SG to date.
    Now then, Mick is in search of just such a beast and thanks to a bit of chance and the generosity of Gibson, we’ve been able to borrow a flippin’ unbelievable Murphy Lab ’64 SG Standard with Maestro Vibrola. Woop!
    So let’s do this - two seriously lovely Les Pauls, one jaw-dropping SG and one genuine vintage 1961 Les Paul Junior… played through a genuine ’50s Fender Tweed, a ’60s AC30, reissue Plexi Marshall and a bit of ’80s Boogie gloriousness.
    Questions…
    • What does R8 and R7 mean?
    It’s an unofficial short name for Gibson Custom [Shop] 1958 and 1957 Les Paul models respectively. Full guitar details and names below. R9 would be a 1959 reissue. R0 is a 1960.
    • How are the amps set?
    - The 1953 Fender Pro-Amp is fully cranked. It’s 18 watts, ish (not 12 like Mick said).
    - The 1961 Vox AC30 is in the Brilliant channel, volume at 2 o’clock
    - The reissue Marshall 1987x has the channels jumped. High treble at 6, Normal at 5. The Fulltone Tube Tape echo is in the effects loop. It was too kerrrayyzzee in the front.
    - The Boogie power amp is set to volume 3 in both channels. High power mode.
    Enjoy the show!
    And please visit That Pedal Shop www.thatpedalshop.com/
    Pedals used in this video
    • Tru-Fi Zozo Fuzz
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    • Fulltone Tube Tape Echo
    No longer available new
    Mick’s board…
    • Schmidt-Array SA-550 XDM
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    • Latent Lemon Audio Hurts
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    • Crazy Tube Circuits Super Conductor
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    • Mythos Argo
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    • Ibanez TS808 Tube Screamer [this one is a Keeley mod from 2014]
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/3vBR2ht
    • Kingsley Juggler V3
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    • TC Electronic SCF Gold
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    • Free The Tone FF-1Y Future Factory
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    • JAM Pedals Harmonious Monk
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    USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3p4En2Z
    • Chase Bliss Audio CXM1978 Reverb
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    TheGigRig G3 Atom
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    Interesting bits and go-to sections
    0:00 Intro playing
    1:27 What are we doing today?
    2:18 A real 1953 Fender Pro-Amp?
    3:25 Today’s guitars
    5:15 Dan’s R8 and Mick’s R7 Les Pauls
    7:28 The Murphy Lab SG
    8:40 Volumes down to 3, then 6
    10:40 Bridge pickups at 7
    13:45 Bridge pickups, Fender Pro cranked
    15:30 1961 Vox AC30
    17:30 Vox clean?
    20:53 Both SGs kicking the AC30
    22:15 Marshall, tape echo, fuzz!
    28:13 More Marshall with Dan
    31:80 Mesa Stereo Power Amp etc
    32:50 Clean tones with reverb
    34:30 Huge dynamic range
    38:28 Mick pushing the blues
    41:23 Closing thoughts
    Guitars in this video
    • Gibson Custom 1958 Les Paul Standard [2002]. It has OX4 Humbuckers - Dan’s video here: • That Pedal Show - Our ...
    USA Sweetwater: imp.i114863.net/0JENNP
    • Gibson Custom True Historic 1957 Les Paul Goldtop, Murphy Aged. It has Gibson Custombuckers - no video yet
    USA Sweetwater: www.sweetwater.com/store/deta...
    • Gibson Custom Murphy Lab 1964 SG Standard with Maestro Vibrola Light Aged. It has Gibson Custombuckers - no specific video yet
    USA Sweetwater: imp.i114863.net/15nNYa
    • 1961 Gibson Les Paul Junior [all original] - Dan’s video here: • That Pedal Show - Our ...
    Amps in this video
    • 1953 Fender Pro-Amp with Jensen P15N speaker (huge thanks to Dan Thomas)
    • 1961 Vox AC30 with Vox Alnico Blue speakers
    • Mid-1990s reissue Marshall 1987x with 1960AX cab / Celestion G12M Greenback speakers
    • Late ’80s/early ’90s Mesa 50:50 Stereo Power Amp & 212 Cabinet with EVM12L speakers
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Komentáře • 952

  • @shreddy412
    @shreddy412 Před rokem +248

    My favourite episode in a long time. That SG is unreal. There’s no way Mick is sending that back.

    • @TrailerHitchRVCenter
      @TrailerHitchRVCenter Před rokem +12

      100% and you know Gibson is sending them the cream of the crop.

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil Před rokem +12

      @@TrailerHitchRVCentereven the worst Gibsons are still great. People (nerds)exaggerate QC issues

    • @akwamarsunzal
      @akwamarsunzal Před rokem +15

      @@Ottophil Recently visited my local guitar store to buy a Gibson LP... Knowing there was a good selection I was prepared for a longish session trying out a few. With money in my pocket, I tried 2 out of the 12 hanging on the wall. All, without exception, had finish issues, 4 had checking around the neck pocket... 5k plus for a substandard guitar? I don´t think so! By the way, I own guitars with checking, finish cracks, less than showroom condition but I am not paying 5k+ for a Gibson that already has issues! Suffice to say I left without buying a Gibson!

    • @MooCow2X2
      @MooCow2X2 Před rokem +13

      @otto Phil. Sorry but I disagree here. A friend has a LP tribute. Came in with a jack socket that wouldn’t work cause someone shoved 3 lock washers on it. AND with a little time The fretboard has literally shrunk on the neck leaving a rather large lip on the bass side. The jack is forgivable. The fretboard is not.

    • @Tomijee
      @Tomijee Před rokem +10

      @@Ottophil Absolutely false, bad neck angles, neck warping etc even in high end Gibsons. Gibson is just bad company today with bad QC

  • @El-Scorcho
    @El-Scorcho Před rokem +33

    "And for some reason at the end of the 70s everyone lost their minds" - my new favorite Mick quote 😂😂

  • @jpelphrey91
    @jpelphrey91 Před rokem +83

    The best part of watching your videos is seeing the looks of pure child-like joy on your faces when you play at screaming loud volumes. The uncontrollable laughter by Mick at 26:00 is what keeps me coming back and makes me want to dime my own amp. Keep it up boys!

  • @alexc4445
    @alexc4445 Před rokem +43

    Mick playing that sg into the Marshall with the fuzz was one of the best tps moments ever. So joyful

  • @WhitAnderson70
    @WhitAnderson70 Před rokem +33

    Genuinely, the most anticipation I have ever experienced for a release of any CZcams content. Coffee ready, let’s go!

  • @sroelit
    @sroelit Před rokem +9

    Part of what I enjoy so much about this show is the infectious joy the two of you share for each other’s playing.

  • @StevenRoby
    @StevenRoby Před rokem +9

    The total joy on their faces in between takes makes the whole episode - it's what makes us all want to play guitar. Can you imagine how loud it is in there? Love it!

  • @donkeydarko77
    @donkeydarko77 Před rokem +12

    I love the SG sound & feel, but I'm really blown away by how awesome that Junior is.

  • @sl3102
    @sl3102 Před rokem +6

    That Fender Pro is all the guitar tone you'll ever need. Hearing the SG and Les Paul back to back makes me realize that the SG has some of that mid honkiness typical of the 335, but still with its own character. The SG is really growing on me. It's a solid guitar.

  • @billj5301
    @billj5301 Před rokem +20

    Haven’t ever commented on CZcams before and have watched all your stuff for years… Absolutely hands down amazing… guys both of your playing was amazing and totally inspirational…. Never wanted an SG but now it’s on the list. Seriously fabulous playing chaps… kudos boys!!!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Před rokem +5

      Thank you Bill, and thank you for being here!

  • @Christian-fe5vq
    @Christian-fe5vq Před rokem +2

    Your reactions to each other's playing in the opening is so darn infectious. Thank you!

  • @user-tm6ru2yg8q
    @user-tm6ru2yg8q Před 4 měsíci +2

    I bought my 1961 white Gibson SG second-hand and have played it ever since then. When I pick it up, it feels like "home" to me. I just got out of the hospital and your video gave me a great feeling of satisfaction. Glad you did the comparisons. i;ll send a photo sometime. Keep on Rockin'

  • @jrchanning
    @jrchanning Před rokem +30

    Epic and Glorious is how I would describe this episode, the playing, the sounds and the guitars were all incredible, brilliant work Dan and Mick, that SG is a thing of wonder !! 😄

  • @davedavem
    @davedavem Před rokem +9

    As a Les Paul owner of nearly 8 years I can safely say my favourite was... the SG! Damn it.

  • @AndrewReitze
    @AndrewReitze Před 9 dny +1

    revisited after a year and I just fell in love with the dynamics of the SG! best video ever!

  • @dwaynedelario
    @dwaynedelario Před rokem +4

    I lucked into an all original 1970 Lyre tail SG back in 2010... and my heart still beats for it every day. The frets are worn down to nubs, but it still sustains for days. A truly remarkable design.

  • @evanmiller2579
    @evanmiller2579 Před rokem +3

    Great run through the decades. The "80's" segment really illustrated how lucky we are now to have the kind of gear that is available. The ability to dial up both pristine and rocking tones through a well put together rig is so awesome. Additionally, being able to dial these in at controllable volumes. The Mesa rig really brought out the majesty of each instrument. I lost som any of the nuances through the other amps that were jacked. Thanks for all you do.

  • @charleslivingston803
    @charleslivingston803 Před rokem +4

    Top 5 episode of all time and it wasn’t even about pedals! Thanks guys, this is a subject near and dear to my heart. I’ve never been in a position to hear an SG and LP compared so well.

  • @davids9192
    @davids9192 Před rokem +13

    Most of Zappa’s best solos came from his SG. Also Holdsworth’s guitar of choice in his early years with Sift Machine. A very versatile guitar.

  • @markprice1847
    @markprice1847 Před rokem +2

    I want to like this twice just based upon how much fun the two of you are having. Great episode!

  • @hg7240
    @hg7240 Před rokem +3

    As a Lefty, videos like these are invaluable. We're relegated to most often buying sight unseen, so a video like this is much appreciated. cheers

  • @andreweasombentley4703
    @andreweasombentley4703 Před rokem +6

    Awesome episode Guys! Two observations from me: 1/ the Jnr into the Fender Pro is a match made in heaven 2/ This video reaffirmed why I think the Hudson Broadcast works so well with a Les Paul as a clean or slightly crunchy preamp as you can dial back the bass really nicely and it helps to prevent things going too dark when you roll the guitar volume off. I've tried so many other drive pedals but nothing does that job better IMHO.

  • @donaldcooper7713
    @donaldcooper7713 Před 8 měsíci +1

    My favorite episode yet! I thoroughly enjoyed it. Keep them coming!

  • @rebuiltbyusn
    @rebuiltbyusn Před rokem +2

    Dan and Mick what a pleasure watching you two dual and impress with your guitar playing skills. I just started watching your channel as I have been an acoustic guitar player for most of my life. I am starting getting into playing electric guitars. Thanks for providing great inspiration. A fan MJ

  • @nathanmuschamp9699
    @nathanmuschamp9699 Před rokem +5

    More and more "That Pedal Show" is attracting me to the tone of cranked amps without pedals 😊 There's another one I watched recently where they did a 1 guitar and 1 amp challenge. Man the tones Dan and Mick got were phenomenal. I especially liked the PRS into the DRRI. Sweetness!

  • @Amish_Trivedi
    @Amish_Trivedi Před rokem +7

    The two of you laughing in pure ecstasy is...all I need. Thank you guys for just...experiencing that and letting us watch :)

  • @agriff4795
    @agriff4795 Před rokem +2

    The look on your face, Mick, and the laugh at the end of each guitar through the 1987 with fuzz and delay, THAT'S IT!!!!! I hear that every time I play plugged in, there is NOTHING like that experience!! Great show, I love the sounds, tones and as always yours and Dan's playing. Cheers, Guys!

  • @YVIL65
    @YVIL65 Před rokem +2

    I'm usually not a SG fan, but I have to say this Pelham blue in all configurations just floored me; well done lads !

  • @dobster5819
    @dobster5819 Před rokem +4

    Hi Legends, glorious sounds today Guys. Mick your playing with the SG and the Marshall was something I won’t forget for a long time, absolutely beautiful. Thank you.

  • @stevebees3992
    @stevebees3992 Před rokem +30

    Quite often through that I kept having the thought that Dan's R8 is how the guitarist in the studio wants the guitar to sound, and the SG is how it sounds once the producer has got hold of it to sit nicely in a mix. Also, the design change between the Les Paul and SG makes a lot of sense when you consider the jazzier origins of the LP and the music of the 50's and the poppier janglier sounds of the early 60's and the thinner, wirier sounds of the SG. Great episode chaps, and you pair o' bastards have reignited my SG GAS...

    • @deplinenoise
      @deplinenoise Před rokem

      Extremely well put

    • @eoinjennings519
      @eoinjennings519 Před rokem +1

      Yes me also - there needs to be a health warning on these

    • @mcmillanalex
      @mcmillanalex Před rokem

      Great analogy 👌

    • @user-up1us9jf1o
      @user-up1us9jf1o Před rokem +5

      I always thought generally the LP sits in between a 335 and SG. You want a LP with more midrange girth get a 335. You want an LP with a little more bite get an SG.

  • @josh_baymee
    @josh_baymee Před rokem +1

    Huge smile on my face the entire time😊 thank you gents! What an epic show!
    On another note, I neeeeever got on with the look of an SG, never thought I’d own one. That is until a CS ‘63 SG Junior in Heather Mist came across my path and floored me, and I moved Heaven and earth to get that thing, and I’m so glad I did. Now I’m afraid I’ve got the SG bug, and been particularly wanting a Murphy 64 SG in Pelham Blue. So of course I came sprinting to this video!

  • @ERICKATERLE
    @ERICKATERLE Před rokem +1

    Excellent show and awesome playing from both of you Dan and Mick!! Cheers to the new SG sounds !

  • @GitShiddy
    @GitShiddy Před rokem +12

    Some of the playing Dan did through Mick's "Rad 80s Rack Rig" was so moving. Approaching Timmons level at points for me. Nice one Dan.
    (This combined with my other comment on this video also shows the dichotomy of tones that appeal to me.)

  • @burt2800
    @burt2800 Před rokem +3

    Absolutely glorious! Out of all the people I watch on CZcams you two are probably the ones I'd most want to have a pint with. How about a Gibson Humbucker vs Wide Range Humbucker video?

  • @steveo44
    @steveo44 Před rokem +2

    Such a great episode guys. Really interesting hearing the different amps too. Absolutely love the look of the that SG !

  • @paulgrotjahn4893
    @paulgrotjahn4893 Před rokem +1

    This honestly is the best both of you have sounded and played in a video. You were inspired by the tones and it showed. Well done gents

  • @recklesstoboggan
    @recklesstoboggan Před rokem +3

    26:02 Mick giggling, with the enthusiasm that Dan usually does, is just about the happiest and most elated I've ever seen or heard Mick. Good on ya. It made my heart happy to see.
    This is the best episode in ages. Really enjoyed it. Love the "through the decades" format.
    The Gibson SG is often referred to as the Gibson Stratocaster. Put that '64 CS ML SG up against your strats please!
    Also, how pedals were used through the decades would be a good format, eg. Chorus, Reverb, delays, fuzz, each one an episode of how it was used by iconic artists or in iconic songs through the decades.

  • @EdgeOfFuzz
    @EdgeOfFuzz Před rokem +5

    Those tones and playing were absolutely glorious!!!

  • @fcariani
    @fcariani Před rokem +2

    This was an amazing show. I don’t always stick it out to the end but I couldn’t miss a moment of this. I now want those Murphy Lab SGs even if I already have an SG. One thing I was curious to see discuss is how much the tonal and clarity difference has to do with the different locations of the pickups (and thus different distances from bridge).

  • @cdobbs7977
    @cdobbs7977 Před rokem +2

    I gotta say, some of the finest playing we've heard on this show. Mick particularly, it reminds me of the first vlog of the 61 strat, the trip to Analogman, adding the 335, unleashing the Two Rock, etc. It really illustrates the point of gear research and study: When our tools are supporting our creativity, we can reach our maximum potential.
    Y'all always sound good, but when the gear is "inspiring," so is your playing. I think that's why we put in the time on the tools, the research of the tools, the contemplation of what tools will inspire the desired results. And at the end of it, we can shut all of that off and just play.
    So very, very well done, as ever. Let's get Cesar and JC on the show, because that SG is a must.

  • @deancutler848
    @deancutler848 Před rokem +3

    Wow wow wow, you chaps have totally blown it out of the park today!!! And your screams of joy and laughter was infectious as you let rip…. Great to see and hear

  • @nandoholgado3050
    @nandoholgado3050 Před rokem +4

    My god... that LP Jr sounds terrific. So open and full, with all the needed frecuencies and presence... Maybe i'm gonna say something strong, but it's the best guitar i've heard from you. I really love your Show guys... keep rocking!!

  • @thecappy
    @thecappy Před rokem +2

    Cold snowy Friday morning a cup of coffee and That Pedal Show, perfect.

  • @scottcurry4116
    @scottcurry4116 Před rokem

    Nice show! Really like the tour through time with the amps. Your playing was excellent and inspirational as usual. Now if must go practice!

  • @stompboss
    @stompboss Před rokem +4

    I love their playing!! Soulful, feel, tone, no flash needed. Sounds killer guys!! 👍

  • @JayP1985
    @JayP1985 Před rokem +3

    What brilliant playing and tones all around. That was a fun episode to watch! The pelham SG is WICKED, but you guys are the best. Thanks gents

  • @Jeff-bg4xb
    @Jeff-bg4xb Před rokem +1

    One of the best videos you have ever done! Great great playing gents!

  • @markmccafferty6515
    @markmccafferty6515 Před rokem +1

    Great piece guys. One of my faves. The two of you were loving that and ooft the Pelham SG sounded amazing!!

  • @IRateReviews
    @IRateReviews Před rokem +5

    I love Mick’s tone induced uncontrollable laughter.

  • @leftchicago
    @leftchicago Před rokem +10

    Great stuff as usual guys, but holy crap, Dan! Your clean toned playing early on with the 80's rig was just beautiful!

    • @mikedr1549
      @mikedr1549 Před rokem +1

      Dan really shines with those clean sounds - you can tell he's influenced quite a bit by that Andy Timmons bloke! Dan and Mick are more talented than they realize!!

    • @leftchicago
      @leftchicago Před rokem

      @@mikedr1549 Agreed. I know Dan loves Andy's playing as evidenced by him tearing up when Andy visited TPS!

  • @bleeknoir
    @bleeknoir Před rokem +1

    This came at the perfect time. I’m a custodian of a new Custom Shop Murphy Lab 63 SG Custom, and it’s the first hum bucker guitar (excluding filtertrons) that I’ve ever loved. If only they were all built like that. Hearing the SG under a microscope, especially compared to a Les Paul, a guitar I’ve never enjoyed, illuminated what I love about it. Thank you chaps.

  • @andrews2772
    @andrews2772 Před rokem

    The part that always keeps me coming back to the channel is the genuine love for amazing tones.

  • @hybro8
    @hybro8 Před rokem +5

    Love videos of people discovering the SG, it really is the best-looking and best-sounding Gibson guitar out there without a doubt! The SG is what Les Paul players want their guitar to sound like.

  • @Eywadude
    @Eywadude Před rokem +3

    One of the biggest differences in tone between an SG and a Les Paul isn't just the pickups and the wood. One thing that most people don't know, understand or take into account is that the pickups are located differently on an SG and a Les Paul.
    Even when comparing an original 1959 Les Paul Standard to an original 1964 SG Standard, the bridge pickup on an SG is actually a little bit closer to the bridge than the bridge pickup of a Les Paul is, and the neck pickup of an SG is actually mounted farther away from the neck (and essentially closer to the bridge) than it is on a Les Paul.
    As we all know: the closer a pickup is to the bridge, the brighter it is, and the farther away it is from the bridge, the darker and bassier it will sound. Pickup location within a guitar's scale length makes a difference in tone.
    Being that both guitars have the same scale length (24.75 inches), the distance between the end of the neck and the bridge is the same for both the SG and the Les Paul. However, the most crucial difference in neck pickup location between the two is: with the Les Paul, the neck pickup sits right up against the end of the neck. Whereas the SG's neck pickup cannot be mounted right against the neck like a Les Paul because there isn't enough wood for the pickup routing in that area where the cutouts for the horns are, so it has to be routed further down and away from the neck for structural reasons. With the SG's pickups essentially located closer to the bridge than the Les Paul's, this affects its tone a lot more than people may know or realize.
    How does this affect the tone of the SG? Remember, the bridge pickup of an SG is slightly closer to the bridge than it is on a Les Paul, and the SG's neck pickup is located farther away from the neck (and essentially closer to the bridge) than it is on a Les Paul as well, which gives it a slightly brighter, thinner, more midrange-focused sound in comparison to a Les Paul. These differences in pickup location is why the SG generally tends to be more midrange-y, and why some consider it to have a more "Tele"-ish sound; that it doesn't sound quite as fat and full on the bottom end as a Les Paul, and why the SG has more midrange "cut" and "snap" to its sound. It's also why the SG's neck pickup tends to sound not quite as thick and a bit more articulate. Because it's located farther down in the string's scale length and is essentially closer to the bridge than a Les Paul's, which gives it a slightly brighter, tighter tone. Pickup location makes a difference!
    The reason I know it makes a difference is because a pickup builder and personal friend of mine made a testbed guitar with a rail system in it that allowed you to slide pickups up and down anywhere between the bridge and the neck, and by doing so, even only a couple of millimetres can make a difference in tone. Especially with the bridge pickup. A couple millimetres makes less of an audible difference with the neck pickup, but the SG's neck pickup is located much farther down than the Les Paul's neck pickup, which affects its tone. Even in this video you can see the distance between the pickups is different between the SG and Les Paul. Both of the SG's pickups are closer together AND closer to the bridge, which inherently gives it a different tone. Being they are closer together, it also affects the SG's middle position tonal character too.
    This is also partly why an Epiphone Les Paul's bridge pickup tone is a bit different than a Gibson Les Paul's, because the Epiphone's bridge pickup is slightly farther away from the bridge than a Gibson's. It's not just the pickups themselves (which of course make a difference), it's also the pickup location that makes a difference in tone. Gibson knows this and that's why there are differences between Gibson and Epiphone pickup mounting locations, and even small differences between different models in the Gibson range through out the years as well.
    Anyway, start measuring the different pickup mounting distances on SGs and Les Pauls, and from Gibsons to Epiphones to see for yourself. Pickups and wood are most CERTAINLY part of the equation, but pickup mounting location is a part of that equation too. Any guitar or pickup builder worth their salt knows it is.

  • @chipneal6846
    @chipneal6846 Před rokem

    Loved watching you guys play! It’s always great to see you enjoy the moment. Dan - 80’s clean was very moving and Mick - Marshall/SG/Fuzz sounded amazing!

  • @Adventuresingearland
    @Adventuresingearland Před rokem +1

    A minute in and already worthy of the like.
    Majestic stuff right out of the gate, gentlemen- thank you.

  • @Evy-1988
    @Evy-1988 Před rokem +3

    Mick and Dan in their happy place. I have no words. Best 46 minutes on youtube EVER

  • @thurstonhowls7723
    @thurstonhowls7723 Před rokem +3

    Such a great job of displaying the Gibson palate. The Junior and the R8 are my favorites.
    This episode will put hair on your chest.

  • @chrisprescottguitar
    @chrisprescottguitar Před rokem +1

    I’m sure this has been said in the bulk of the comments but this really feels like a defining episode of the channel, even though it’s light on pedals, light on technical details etc. I adore TPS, I have loved every challenge that’s ever been done. I love the shoot outs, the guides to each effect, the guest interviews, the NPD’s, the sessions, everything. But this, gentlemen. This, is why I’m here every week. Turn it up.

  • @TheNadaladaDOTnet
    @TheNadaladaDOTnet Před měsícem +1

    Mick and Dan, like many on these threads I am a massive fan of the show for the obvious reasons I think most are.....your guests are always compelling, your knowledge and love of all things guitar, etc. This episode for me is one of my favorites and I have watched it a few times. And what I love the most is how your personalities are on full display. The freak out you both have at various times while rocking out (Mick laughing hysterically after wailing on the Pelham Blue SG at top volume for example) just brings a smile to my face and I laugh with you as well. Love the show and thank you for being you.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Před měsícem

      Thank you kindly! We do our best to not forget that this should be fun. And fun we shall have!

    • @TheNadaladaDOTnet
      @TheNadaladaDOTnet Před měsícem

      @@ThatPedalShow bloody well right!!!

  • @BCarpenter2314
    @BCarpenter2314 Před rokem +3

    Just an epic episode! I've always loved a Pelham Blue SG, but I struggle with the difference in feel compared to my other guitars. The neck is being shifted more is just radically different for me!

  • @Sellen-
    @Sellen- Před rokem +3

    Great show !!
    One thing to mention, is the pickup placement.
    On the sg, both pickups is further down the body
    Also bridge pickup slightly closer to the bridge.
    Making it brighter.
    All 4 guitars was awesome

  • @less_concerned1221
    @less_concerned1221 Před rokem +1

    That was a brilliant video! I really enjoyed it. The different decades were well represented. I really think it boils down to the individual guitar and the sum of its parts. Some late 50’s LP neck pickups don’t have a heavy bottom end… etc. etc.
    I do agree about the Murphy SG. It sounded incredible in all tests!

  • @WhitAnderson70
    @WhitAnderson70 Před rokem +1

    Love love loved the show! The joy was contagious! All was consistent with my experience w/ my Murphy 64 SG. I think part of the magic is lower output unpotted custombuckers. Off to shop for a 50's Fender Pro. Much love, Woo

  • @elliotgreen987
    @elliotgreen987 Před rokem +6

    Interesting how I preferred Dans LP in Micks hands and Micks LP in Dans hands!
    Mick looks like he belongs with that SG. I am a Les Paul guy but that SG-fuzz-Marshall glory was one of my favourie sounds I've ever heard

  • @heikopfister9739
    @heikopfister9739 Před rokem +3

    I really, really don't like the looks of an SG.
    It's odd to me.
    The Lester is a classic beauty.
    But... the sounds... of these SGs... Right up there. Glorious.

  • @pewit8097
    @pewit8097 Před rokem +1

    Joyous episode, and stellar playing from both of you!

  • @ToddTheJoker
    @ToddTheJoker Před rokem +1

    Incredible sounds guys! wow! So hard to chose between them, would have to have both an SG and a LP and I love the sound of that Fender Pro amp...beautiful classic tweed sound goodness! Thank you for this!!!

  • @steverossi7949
    @steverossi7949 Před rokem +6

    Dan I am in love with your 61 SG. That P90 is epic. I would be hard pressed to play my other guitars if that was sitting there. Not a fan of Pelham Blue like most of the other viewers were but to each his own. Great playing as always and it’s so cool to see the joy on your faces at the sounds you’re able to get. Have become a huge fan of TPS.

    • @dancehallc
      @dancehallc Před rokem +2

      It always puzzles me how Dan and Mick spend so much time with other guitars when that Junior is sitting there. My favorite by far.

  • @markandrewdaley
    @markandrewdaley Před rokem +3

    The sounds of the SG through Dan’s Vox we’re just astounding. And Mick buys a new guitar in 3… 2…

  • @georgetriantafyllou983
    @georgetriantafyllou983 Před rokem +1

    Hey Dan and Mick, great episode! Thank you for all the effort you're putting in your fun and informative content! Would you consider bringing the Les Paul Special (with P90s) in those kind of comparisons in the future? A really versatile guitar and somewhat underrated, as it might be considered as the lesser Paul by some.. Thanks and keep up the great content! Cheers!

  • @bradenrodriguez5183
    @bradenrodriguez5183 Před rokem

    I honestly had no idea that you could get that tone with just a great guitar and a great amp. I always thought you had to have an overdrive or distortion pedal!
    I think i'm beginning to understand this pursuit of tone thing you guys are obsessed with. So interesting!
    Really enjoyable video guys!

  • @nastradame
    @nastradame Před rokem +11

    Mick at 25:40, and Dan at 35:30. I mean just absolutely phenomenal tones. From the embodiment of the rock n’ roll sound to the dynamic reverby ethereal plains. In my book it’s the SG all day, not to say the Lester isn’t an absolute amazing guitar but the dynamic versatility of SG’s and you still get to have the whammy bar takes the cake. My friend always says a SG is just a Les Paul pretending to be a Strat. Anyways phenomenal episode of TPS!

  • @samhealey7603
    @samhealey7603 Před rokem +14

    Never fully understood why the SG wasn't as popular as it should be, that Pelham Blue one is a prime example of the clarity and sparkle you can get from a good SG. They're also incredibly comfortable with great fret access.

    • @achanonymous
      @achanonymous Před rokem +2

      "Something something neck dive" is usually what I get when I start talking about how much I love SGs.

    • @samhealey7603
      @samhealey7603 Před rokem +2

      @@achanonymous That is the usual argument I hear against them too... Fortunately I bolted a rather large cumbersome Bigsby to the bottom end of mine, which seems to have cured it of that.

    • @nosferatu7325
      @nosferatu7325 Před rokem +1

      Neck dive keeps me away from the SG and the Firebird.

    • @achanonymous
      @achanonymous Před rokem +3

      @@samhealey7603 I always found that just using a wide strap that was made of a material with better grip on the shoulder than the standard fabric straps, was usually enough to prevent any kind of neck dive.
      I've always used wide straps, so I'd always thought that neck dive was a bit of a myth, or at least kind of rare, until I borrowed another guitarists SG while I was on stage (broke a string in the first song, then broke a string on my backup guitar in the second song, with no guitar tech to restring either of them), and that thing plummeted the moment I let go of it. Switched to my wide strap, and it was completely fine.

    • @Les537
      @Les537 Před rokem +3

      I never liked SG cause I felt like it was Angus' guitar. lol. Took me years to get over that. It was derrek trucks who finally FORCED me to buy an SG with his awesome tones. Now I own two and love them.

  • @elliotttadanier5971
    @elliotttadanier5971 Před rokem +1

    Really enjoyed the playing in this one. Seemed like both Dan and Mick had fun playing all the guitars, and the licks were on point.

  • @ronrumsey3205
    @ronrumsey3205 Před rokem +1

    Such unbridled joy! I love it! Carry on, gentlemen!

  • @BounceBoomBounce
    @BounceBoomBounce Před rokem +3

    Great video, I have also been looking around for an SG for quite awhile. However, after hearing them all side by side, I greatly preferred the Les Pauls and Jr. in every instance. It almost seemed to me that all the guitars go to 11, but the SG was stuck on 10. I'm a little surprised I thought that, but I guess that means I just need to get out there and try more SG's lol. Great job on the comparison.

  • @Sensates85
    @Sensates85 Před rokem +3

    Not much of a pedal user anymore but when it comes to guitars you guys do them justice. I love the Pelham Blue on that SG, hope it's staying.

  • @marlonromo3606
    @marlonromo3606 Před rokem

    What a great episode guys! One of your best for sure!

  • @MrNeilltupman
    @MrNeilltupman Před rokem

    Wonderful episode chaps, bravo! A real privilege to see that Murphy SG, and play the Goldtop yesterday at the Experience Day - thank you!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Před rokem +1

      Neill! Nice one geez. Hope you had an uneventful journey home. :0)

    • @MrNeilltupman
      @MrNeilltupman Před rokem

      The KFC at Amesbury aside, it was pretty uneventful for a Friday night drive!

  • @jamesdonahue6466
    @jamesdonahue6466 Před rokem +4

    Fantastic episode lads! I went through the SG vs. Les Paul, and ended up going Les Paul because, well, it's the best looking guitar ever made and I found a tasty Bourbon Burst Standard with a very dark rosewood board, and it's light too! That and Professor Taylor stated quite convincingly, "There are three key considerations when purchasing an electric guitar. What it looks like, what it looks like, and what it looks like."

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Před rokem

      Ha! Nice one James! We can see these teachings are spreading wisdom through the land. Hahahah!

  • @Casinofire1
    @Casinofire1 Před rokem +3

    That first chord from Dan during the 80’s bit, F#11 I believe, is just the most perfect chord of all time!!!! The Hemisphere’s chord!!!!!!!

  • @dustinthiessen
    @dustinthiessen Před rokem +1

    man alive! I knew this was worth listening on my studio monitors :) absolutely love that old pro!

  • @dirtmark333
    @dirtmark333 Před rokem +1

    Awesome stuff, thanks! I would love to see some LP Customs in show btw :)

  • @mikedr1549
    @mikedr1549 Před rokem +10

    Classic episode! I LOVE the walk through the decades - you could do a whole 2 hour movie on this theme. I'd really like to see you both do costume changes and wear era appropriate clothes for each decade. Lastly - I really like the new SG. Cheers!

  • @curtisdueck1858
    @curtisdueck1858 Před rokem +3

    I love pedals AND guitars. Please do more of these. How about a show on Explorers & Flying V's?

  • @kmickp1166
    @kmickp1166 Před rokem

    Loved this guys, it brought back memories of my journey through guitars and gear through the decades & it followed exactly what you described eg it the mid 80’s I switched to a rack with a GP16 multi effect etc for stereo, then in the early nineties switched back to a Boogie 1x12 combo!

  • @braydenmcmorran4562
    @braydenmcmorran4562 Před rokem +1

    Great to see some SG love! I've always played a Telecaster and never dipped a toe into the Gibson world until I got an SG Junior last year....it is now one of my favorites! I'm limiting myself to three guitars: Telecaster, Baritone Esquire, and my lovely red Junior. The Pelham blue sounds amazing!

  • @NorthXNortwestHighland
    @NorthXNortwestHighland Před rokem +3

    Amazing! Just amazing!Thank you, thank you, thank you.

  • @danmarcus1775
    @danmarcus1775 Před rokem +3

    YEEESSS, more of this please. I've been patiently waiting for you guys to get a proper SG for years and that's THE one to get. Don't send it back Mick, Gibson won't miss it!

  • @jasondejong3062
    @jasondejong3062 Před rokem

    First off, that Pelham blue sg is absolutely gorgeous🤤🤤🤤 second, what an episode!!!! When you guys played those guitars through that Marshall and the fuzz🤯 all I could think of while watching you guys grinning from ear to ear and guitar faces for days is this: that is soul medicine right there. Absolutely brilliant!!!

  • @christullmann7666
    @christullmann7666 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Outstanding episode. Both guitars are amazing. Outstanding tones ...Both of your playing was amazing. I love my 69 Sg. Plays ,and sounds amazing. Keep it up fellows!

  • @billgreen3629
    @billgreen3629 Před rokem +3

    The SG into the Kingsley/Mesa/EV 12-L rig has me rethinking everything I know about guitar tone. It was balanced, warm and articulate. I’ve heard balanced, I’ve heard warm, and I’ve heard articulate, but not all three together and not like that. Extraordinary.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Před rokem +4

      Ha! Thanks so much Bill. It’s a sound of which I’ve become very fond, and I’m totally with you. Mick here. It does crazy stooopid clean, and it does filthy nasty dirty. And everything between. Maybe not the irresistible chew and rasp of an old tweed or the barking mad rasp of a Plexi….. but the big headroom/maximum dynamic and all that…. I love this approach! Good luck!

  • @comethmordor
    @comethmordor Před rokem +3

    My Custom ‘61 Les Paul Reissue (SG) is my #1 :)

  • @soulisthegoal96
    @soulisthegoal96 Před rokem

    I look forward to hearing this with headphones and not on my phone, but I thought I'd share what I can hear:
    Mick's LP sounds like it already has a Klon in it! There's a really raunchy midrange to it.
    The SG has a lovely clarity (sounded like it was something in the pickup) that really appealed to me.
    Thanks for a great show!

  • @antonrandle4146
    @antonrandle4146 Před rokem +2

    Always good to see people having fun, playing in the key of loud.

  • @tonyevans9999
    @tonyevans9999 Před rokem +3

    Ok so that SG sounded far far better than I'd expected, and just in terms of versatility, it clean swept the floor. I love single 15" speakers on guitar and have a black panel Pro that I will be buried with, but that tweed was quite something. I'd like to hear a stock standard SG against a LP standard though for a more "real world" scenario, where I am fairly sure the SG design will still impress.

  • @nickangelo3283
    @nickangelo3283 Před rokem +5

    Lovely episode. I gotta say, that ‘61 SG Junior might be the best sounding TPS Guitar. So rich and alive. It even sounds good slightly out of tune…😅

    • @Irkennalpha
      @Irkennalpha Před 8 měsíci

      I think the pit of time is because the neck is quite bendy, isn’t?

  • @Stringtrees
    @Stringtrees Před rokem +2

    Thank you guys, that was just what I needed after a hard day at work. That SG was stunning. I used to hate them years ago but have completed changed and I love them. Gents, your playing was joyful. I only have one humbucking guitar( I have Strats and a Tele) which I never take to gigs but this has got me thinking that maybe I should drag the old Gibson ES339 out- yeah I know, not a LP or SG but the closest I have in terms of sound.

  • @GlasVelo
    @GlasVelo Před rokem +2

    Absolutely eye watering tones...excellent work gents!! That SG is amazing!