SanMartin Vs. Seestern | 62mas Face off | Best value?| The Watcher
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- Full comparison between the San Martin 37mm 62mas homage and the Seestern 62mas homage. Which one comes out on top?
link below to both watches:
San Martin 37mm
s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AWENQJ
Seestern:
s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_9IQyiT
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Seestern is still a level above SM, although Seestern also started using off the shelf clasps that are not snug with the bracelet (same as SM), and this watch is a good example. One thing I also found is that SM clasps scratch much more easily.
Great video. Just my 2 cents: Don't understand why you would give an extra point for the movement that is known to be less reliable, just because of the beat rate. IMHO many people assigne too much value to beat rate when we are talking budget watches. I prefer reliability and durability over a higher beat rate.
Your video is great, I'm greatful, but I think the movments at the most are tied.
Best regards
Well I'd prefer a high beat rate because NH Seiko movements are so meh!
Look I don't mean to sound like a d**k but as part of a collection, a watch like this with a high beat movement less reliable than a Seiko movement is hardly an issue because after you buy it & wear it for a few weeks it'll just sit there and get used 4x a year meaning it'll still last 10 years probably.
If it was a primary watch then maybe your point is fair enough.
Agreed. Accuracy over beat rate all day
I think a Seiko homage deserves a Seiko movement 😊
Amazing comparison. Thank you, I’ve been looking for this.
Seestern for the "W" with the fully brushed case and polished chamfers + slight taper around the lugs. I've already taken the Scotchbrite pad to the sides of my SD1962 (and it looks much better "brushed" IMO), but the Steeldive 62MAS just seems a bit overly large A. 38mm case brushed at the factory for 200.00 USD is just what I'm looking for. Agree, though, about the font being a bit thick in the Seestern's bezel insert - less really is more there. Excited to be getting my 1st Seestern (grey). EDIT- *outstanding* in depth comparison, bravo 👍
Thanks , glad you liked it
Loved this vid. Please do a comparison of the San Martin with the Fifty Four too! I’m a bit stuck between them at the mo.
Thanks for the info and a clear conclusion.
Detailed! Thanks.
Setting price aside, I might opt for San Martin as a brand preference.
But I'd definitely choose the allbrushed bracelet and so it's the Seestern I'd go for, if I was buying.
In short, the Seestern / Sugess brand has San Martin quality for Pagani Design prices. So best price / performance ratio is for Seestern / Sugess. The new kid on the Chinese block. The brand to beat for the moment.....
As good as the sm is, I think I'd go seestern on this one, just has about everything you could want and for less. Great work with the comparison mate
Appreciate it Wes 👊🏽👍🏼
Excellent comparison I really enjoyed! I agree, for the Seestern has a lot going for it. Who would have thought it's better than a San Martin in terms of case finishing? I like the fact that it has brushing on the sides. The NH35 is the better movement for this watch. Not only is is more reliable and robust than the PT5000, the watch also has a little bit of Seiko in it. This watch doesn't need a high beat movement at the cost of reliability and longevity.
Totally agree
Spot on.. Exactly my thoghts
I own the Seestern - and have yet to see enough of a difference from any other brand to change it.
I'm sure that the bracelet on the SM is better, but as I prefer it on a rubber strap anyway, this doesn't matter to me.
I love these comparison videos - looking forward to the next one.
Facts. 62mas on a metal bracelet not a good look. Rubber is the way to go !
@@kobe5rings you can purchase the San martin with a rubber strap as well, I've got both
@@RetroworksMusic sure. If you actually prefer the sizing. Seestern nailed this one, IMO. I am a San Martin fan. I just prefer the Seestern.
Have you ever tested the seestern water resistance? I am not even talking about diving, but would it be good enough for showering, swimming or playing in the swimming pool?
Totally agreed on that one mate, the 62 looks the best on a strap
Great comparison buddy, it's really hard to tell the difference at the top of the tree when you don't have this type of content 👍
Appreciate it bruv!
Just bought the San Martin 62mas in the 11/11 sale. It’s the 41mm v4 model with the nh35 movement. Very excited for its arrival
There's a 41mm version?! What's the largest they go? This will look like a ladies watch on my large wrist
Brilliant comparison as always mate, truly a high standard. Not suprised the seestern came out on top, the sm price is abit silly imo. Keep up the excellent work 👍👍
Appreciate it bro, yeh can't be paying silly prices man
Should have used the same colour dial. Watching them being compared side by side - my eye continually shifts toward the Seestern... I guess that says everything
Great video👍
I was able to pick up the San Martin for $202. In my opinion, that brings it in line with being the overall winner and best choice in this comparison.
Great comparison! I agree, the Seestern is the best value for money. Thanks 👍
Definitely prefer the Seestern but I want one on a bracelet and those endlinks are hideous. Is there a 62 mas homage out there with a decent bracelet with female endlinks??
Great comparison, seestern is a better value. But SM is also very good except for the price. They are both eyes catching pieces.
On the case section, I think "thinness" should have been one of the points. However other than the SM being nearly 1mm thinner, I much prefer the Seestern.
The proportion of the hands and indexes is off on the seestern. Especially the second hand and the smaller indexes?
Good video. The edginess of the San Martin is a "no go".
Seestern is my pick for the 62mas. I have one. And in a San Martin fan.
thanks for the nice video
At the end only instruments could give objective judgments, otherwise all goes into subjectivity... And I personally for the only aesthetic point of view I prefer the San Martin
Isn't Seestern's bezel misaligned? 30 and marker on 3 look off
Top analysis 🧐.Seestern definitely wins value for money .
Seestern imo great review cheers.
Would like to see how the $70 Tandorio stacks up.
How does the Proxima 62mas stack up to these two?
Great comparison! I think the homage sweet spot is sub $300. Over that and I start looking at the less expensive microbrands (Phoibos, Spinnaker, etc). I own the San Martin 62mas. but with the NH35. It's a beautiful watch with a great bracelet.
Same here
I love this Seestern 💪🏻🤙🏻
The san martin hex logo is horrible IMO. I have seen the Seestern 62MAS with black dail in person. Awesome little watch..
The '=' sign vs Seestern (cistern).
I could live with = but not vitreous cistern lol.
I'd go with Seestern, thx
The Seestern does look like a very good watch however I prefer the case size to be 40mm or above. Out of curiosity and to be honest I haven’t found it did you ever do a comparison video between the San Martin and the Steeldive 62Mas watches?
I left out the steeldive 62mas as I felt it didn't keep up with the rest so didn't include it in the running at all
the watcher please test the red star bullhead :)
Just picked the seestern up on ali express. with all the discounts it came out shipped to $118. Couldn't pass it up! Also got a nice blue automatic pilot watch from san martin for $86. Not a bad duo collection for $200!!
I'm about to order the seestern 62mas, but can't decide between the blue and grey dial.
I can only afford to buy one but I like both colours. my decision difficulty kicks in again, can't decide...
Grey dial
I just ordered grey seestern today 😂
I would love that San Martin in gold or at the very least with gilt hands.
Has anyone ever tried water resistance in seestern and San martin? I am not talking about actual diving, but can they at least be safe in the swimming pool or playing at the beach?
Yes, they're fine for snorkeling light diving etc.. 200m is legit
I bought the San Martin V4 last year on its launch and iit is a superb watch indeed , but you can purchase the watch on other colour choices, there is a blue dial variation as well, apart from the silver that they sent me and it has The seiko Nh35 A movement on it,..
Now its posible to purchase it with a pt5000 or a selllita options at an extra cost, but I don't care as I DO NOT really see the point of one "Hommage" of a japanese watch, with one "hommage" of a Swiss movement on it ..wtf?¿..,
So to be fair you should have Done the comparison with both watches sporting the same movement.
Great video, but tbh there is no contest, SM is ahead of the game
Not on this particular model but on quite alot of models they are
for 30% extra cost.. sure.
for 30% extra cost.. sure.
Man. San Martin should make more watches with NH35 or the NY55 movement. As you said the NH35 is more reliable plus the prices with the PT5000 are a lot more. Like for example the explorer homage that with NY55 is about $250 and with PT5000 $310. I really think that their watches at $250 would sold a lot more.
Yeh i agree with that point
How do you know it’s more reliable? I have never seen a PT 5000 break and everyone I get is within + three seconds a day.
Really like these thorough comparisons. Any way you could really take your time and print a bit more legibly? Very difficult to read. Just a tip!
Its not meant to be read by you guys!! Thats just for me 😂 hence why i run you guys through it. Thank you for watching! 👍🏼👊🏽
Does the Seestern have a 28.5 mm dial? Would be great for a mod
Yes it does
@@TheWatcherReviews 🏃🏃🏃it's $165 right now. I'm buying one then
Seestern bezel seems mis-aligned at 9 o'clock. SM bracelet indeed looks better. I think both watches fit smaller wrists very well. Neither one has a high domed crystal as in the OG. So I will wait.
Have a look at the Heimdallr 62MAS.
H8 mate, between the Seestern 62Mas, and the Steeldive 62Mas, which one do you recommend? Thanks a lot for the answer
Seestern over the steeldive
@@TheWatcherReviews Thanks Mate
I'm thinking both come from the same factory, both nice watches.
my seestern has fully lumed bezel San Martin does not offer this.. so it's the clear winner in my opinion.
Yeh they do have the fully lumed bez option too
sorry SM, seestern ticks a lots of boxes for me on this one.
any polished areas other than chamfered areas, i usually just get it over with and brush it with a scouring pad or 800-1000 grit sand paper. yes, even to swiss watches....they are gonna get scratched so screw it-they are mine anyways
Man seiko doing own hommage soon wait 4 that 1kplus probably kwality
Seestern is smaller and cant be modded. Dial can be swaped for an oem seiko dial. Pt5000 cant. Biggest factor IMO
You mean can be modded?
I prefer the smallest size of the Seestern.
How is it smaller? They are the same size
Seestern won it by a mile!
I dont know if my eyes are playing with me.. San Martin hour indices is much slimer than Seestern. Or maybe Im wrong..
Yes, they're slimmer
The fully lumed v3 from Seestern is the best 62mas homage on Aliexpress and actually cheaper than most.
Slightly better lume? For me that lume is far brighter and from my experience likely going to last.
Yep Seestern for me. Excellent vid.
I find it absurd someone would prefer a Chinese movement to a tried and true Japanese movement. I think San Martin has really screwed the pooch in this decision to use PT5000. I'd actually pay more for an NH35 movement over a Pt5000..; which is NOT more accurate, and is unknown as to service life, but certainly will need more servicing due to the 8 beats per second.
It's good to see SM have started using Miyota 8315... that 60 hour power reserve is so much more useful a feature than irrelevant high beat.
I do not trust the pt5000 reliability much either
SM is only better because of its bracelet, other than that, Seestern is as good as SM.
What your comparison sadly missed is AR coating review. I HATE blue AR tints. A strong blue AR coat is a deal breaker.
Thats entirely subjective gornus, so i try to keep them objective.
@@TheWatcherReviews you don’t have to give a score rating to AR tint, but say whether it has an AR tint or not and say how strong it is. We can’t always tell from the video.
Noted but it should acrue a point as ar coated vs non ar coated means price/value difference
I hated the vídeo. Now i dont know wich Color to choose. The Gray or the BLUE onde? 😁
The Seestern metal bracelet is rubbish in the quality and the way its looks. I think otherwise its a better looking watch especially when it comes on its rubber strap and its cheaper as well compared with the SM.
why does nobody make the 39mm like Seiko lol?!!!!??!?!?!?
The Seiko was 37mm im sure
@@TheWatcherReviews i meant the SLA043J
Gemme one of them as a gift😍
Thanks a lot anyway❣️. Every single details you’ve got there and obviously one of the best comparison.
Thanks man, appreciate it
Just to also add- the SM shark logo is hideous, that's subjective, however the cartoonish type design is cheap and tacky. Also I've had awfully poor experiences with SM customer service
are you daft? How can you give a point for the PT5000 over the NH35... it should have been the other way around. Also, you give a point to the San Martin bracelet because it appears to have more work into it, but work isn't the same as quality. As you say it is edgy, has defects, and only four micro adjusts; The Seastern bracelet looks more refined. At best, it's 1-1. So there are two points in the advantage of SM that shouldn't be there at all.
Forget about price... even by your comments, the seastern is better at an equal price.
Damn, missed the fight, who won??? Do we have the official results... on paper? Was it a tight match?😋 Ok, let me see the vid now, will be back...
So, Seestern is a better potato peeler, right? 😋😂😂 Cheers mate, be well.
No no the san martin for spuds peeling and the seestern fof wrist healing
@@TheWatcherReviews Got it! especially the "fof wrist" (aka fuck(ed) over-function wrist ?) will need some healing for sure! 😂😂😂 ( typos make great meaning sometimes, ain't so? 😋😎) All good fun mate, be well always!
Get the spuds 🥔 out Fam 😅 time to get peeling!
Ok, well I just got this Seestern and no, sorry, but it's not good. The dial is too deep, the crown is flimsy and doesn't screw in or out easily, took ages to find the date setting. The bezel is loose (no backplay) but it's feels loose at some areas around the watch. The bezel hangs over too much on the case and makes it difficult to access the crown. All in all - garbage! What these watch companies need to do, is stop making dials smaller and start making them thinner!
Hey buddy, sounds like u had a bad experience, where were you looking for the date setting?
I would suggest to stop advertising Seestern and their Dodgy watches! I have now read multiple reviews on many platforms about their crown issues and almost non- existant customer service! Ethically poor company and would advise that you don't push their products onto people!
You don't know what you're talking about man, trust me. I've had plenty of seestern watches and they have some of the best crowns. Ofcourse you get a few instances of issues and those people make the loudest noises.
@@TheWatcherReviews I don't know what I'm talking about? Lol ok, so you're saying I'm lying? So you just make the assumption that the information I've disclosed is false? to the blatant point, "I don't know what I'm talking about"... Lol
@@vanwilder1101 yep, thats what I said bruv
@@TheWatcherReviews Bruv? Lol- you're as ignorant as you are crass
The irony, you started this off by making the most ignorant statement, which is why you got a crass response, neither are you a professor that I need to check my response.
Listen, use facts and unbiased info, their store on aliex - check the ratings and reviews overall. That gives you the answer you need. If 90% of the people buying are satisfied, your statement you made is nonsense because you're going off a very few people that have had an issue with their watches. It also doesn't make sense to cry that loud over £150 watch. You have to know what you're buying at the end of the day.
You're using anecdotes and a small number of people to make such a large and general statement, which simply isn't true. What do you want me to say to that? Don't get bummy, accept it, and move on, bruv. 😂
San Martin 378€ 😡😡
Seestern 250€ in Europe 😥😠.
Watcher, is the Seestern more comfortable to wear? You called the San Martin a potatoe peeler. I was wondering if the Seestern has the same issue? I have very small wrists.
Seestern is alot smoother
@@TheWatcherReviewsok thanks 👍♥️