The INSANITY of DOTA 2's balance EPISODE 2: Showcase for League of Legends Players!

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  • čas přidán 16. 07. 2023
  • Ever look at a icefrog and wonder....
    what is going on inside his head?
    EPISODE 2. Go watch episode 1 first!!
    This video is meant for League Of Legends players to get a quick summary of the craziness on this side of the divide.
    discord.gg/sxMHGSm
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Komentáře • 526

  • @TheL1ch_
    @TheL1ch_ Před 11 měsíci +795

    Love how tiny takes more time to hit enchantress than bloodseeker needs to doo a full circle around the map xD

    • @user-ol1pm2iw9j
      @user-ol1pm2iw9j Před 11 měsíci +15

      This is why echo sabre is needed ☠️☠️☠️

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci +78

      Echo saber kicks in after the first attack. The poor guy needs a moon shard!

    • @user-ol1pm2iw9j
      @user-ol1pm2iw9j Před 11 měsíci +17

      @@TZAR_POTATO
      6 moon shards and one consumed moon shard to be exact.

    • @veil3756
      @veil3756 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Tree throw from silver edge to break her passive or just agh skill her xd

    • @msgdeletdbymod4471
      @msgdeletdbymod4471 Před 11 měsíci +15

      I thought you were exaggerating until I watched the scene. Hilarious!

  • @Neovipa
    @Neovipa Před 8 měsíci +282

    The craziest thing about dota compared to league is how much better its practice tool is.

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 8 měsíci +26

      soooo true!

    • @MrKrinkelz
      @MrKrinkelz Před 8 měsíci +11

      It encourages players to discover more broken shit and patch it asap once reported but sometimes dota wont even patch it too lol

    • @saunorine
      @saunorine Před 8 měsíci +9

      @@MrKrinkelz lol lets not forget when akali shroud worked under turrets for almost a full year

    • @beardyjesus4591
      @beardyjesus4591 Před 8 měsíci +3

      ​@@saunorine To be honest it wasn't even THAT broken, if she wasn't OP in challenger and pro they would probably didn't remove it.
      I am sure that 95% of players never saw anyone that could use this abilty well

    • @ricosuave_numero
      @ricosuave_numero Před 8 měsíci +1

      you misspelled "the whole game" with "its practice tool"

  • @user-ol1pm2iw9j
    @user-ol1pm2iw9j Před 11 měsíci +207

    Hard support:
    "I fear no man... But that thing..."
    *Agility stack Slark*
    "It scares me..."

    • @jhanwan8318
      @jhanwan8318 Před 11 měsíci +13

      60 stack and 25 permanent and my carry still wants to fight

    • @user-ol1pm2iw9j
      @user-ol1pm2iw9j Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@jhanwan8318
      This is why break debuff is so good.

    • @ziadahmad2440
      @ziadahmad2440 Před 11 měsíci +3

      But then u realize u are up against elder titan 💀💀💀

    • @WildlifeFAQ
      @WildlifeFAQ Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@ziadahmad2440 ET will only remove the armor tho not the damage.

    • @ziadahmad2440
      @ziadahmad2440 Před 9 měsíci

      @@WildlifeFAQ yea thats enough to kill him just have halbred and he is done for

  • @xin8992
    @xin8992 Před 11 měsíci +189

    there's a saying among dota players.
    "nothing's broken if everything is broken."

    • @jeevieseverino3949
      @jeevieseverino3949 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Unless its medusa with no nerfs with 65 percent winrate.

    • @mikelezhnin8601
      @mikelezhnin8601 Před 11 měsíci +20

      also "everything can work"

    • @Inf1e
      @Inf1e Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@jeevieseverino3949 I'm sorry, WHAT? She has been nerfed first day (still earned me a few easy games) and can be countered with quite a few heroes. Compare it to physical Ark (very difficult hero, you need to press Ctrl with right click) or Meepo (difficulty on this hero is nonexistent after Poof rework) which draws full enemy team attention to just neutralise them.

  • @xvoin2867
    @xvoin2867 Před 11 měsíci +160

    One day... One day LoL players will see the most complex, the most universal hero, who can do LITERALLY anything and everything. RRRRubick the GRrrrand Magus!

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci +18

      RRRrrrrRRr---RRrrrRRr R rrR R, rr *proceeds to levitate enemy into orbit*
      Do you know this reference?
      Also, it's not LITERALLY anything, but close enough ;)

    • @abogmus8904
      @abogmus8904 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@TZAR_POTATO wasn't there a time when morphling could morph into allies? what if Rubic stole that? then he truly could do everything (everything that is available in a set game that is)

    • @mikelezhnin8601
      @mikelezhnin8601 Před 11 měsíci +1

      well lol has sylas and viego, both aren't quite the same, but can steal spells

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci +11

      @@abogmus8904 There's quite a few abilities that are marked as un-stealable, and also he cannot steal passives. Morphling's ult is one such unstealable ability.

    • @yarikyaryi
      @yarikyaryi Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@mikelezhnin8601 don't even compare that to rubick, he is on whole different level.

  • @msgdeletdbymod4471
    @msgdeletdbymod4471 Před 11 měsíci +37

    9:42 oh nice! my doom got his refresher at minute 30, let's see what huge impact he is going to have with it. *devours twice in a row*

  • @svenkrules9855
    @svenkrules9855 Před 8 měsíci +79

    As someone who plays both LoL and Dota 2, it's actually baffling how Dota 2 feels more balanced than League is considering every hero in DOTA 2 is considered to have a "broken/OP" ability/skill by LoL standard

    • @BruhMeme85
      @BruhMeme85 Před 7 měsíci

      If everyone is broken nobody is broken
      Except for OD I don't care if you are weak in pro play fuck you in general

    • @ChadKakashi
      @ChadKakashi Před 7 měsíci +1

      Since most spells are individually powerful a lot of ultis are just insane.

    • @jackolevious8308
      @jackolevious8308 Před 6 měsíci +8

      if everything are broken, none is broken

    • @13YoJest13
      @13YoJest13 Před 5 měsíci +12

      Dota feels more balanced because it doesn’t have individual damage ratios in every single hero like League does for every single one of its champs. (70 damage on Jhin doesn’t = 70 damage on Ashe)
      (70 damage on anyone in Dota is 70 damage)
      Also the fact that everyone in Dota uses mana (a few spells use hp) league has Mana, rage, energy, straight up no resource, cost at all just CD.
      Crits also don’t just add up like they do in league. Two items at 25% is 50% crit in league. Two items at 25% in Dota would technically be a 37.5% chance to crit not 50% (Dota uses actual real world math for chance calculations on Crits)
      This also just gives us more build diversity in general. Like 90% of ADC’s in league is Boots+5 crit items or Boots+4 crit items+ GA.
      (Yes there are other builds like lethality or AP versions instead of AD like Varus can do but none of that is even close to the diversity of Dota builds/roles.

    • @floreaciprian9742
      @floreaciprian9742 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@13YoJest13 itemization is one of the biggest differences between games. League has a lot of "useless" items. I mean the same item that does slightly different things, like zeal items, or lost chapter items and so on. Dota brings way more variety with items, especially how different and useful the actives are

  • @persies4397
    @persies4397 Před 8 měsíci +136

    As a dota player these abilities/passives taken out of context are pretty funny. I also loved the transition at the start from "powerful" to a clip of bounty hunter 😂

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 8 měsíci +4

    • @Tory-JJ
      @Tory-JJ Před 7 měsíci

      He's top 3 for pos 4..

    • @ChadKakashi
      @ChadKakashi Před 7 měsíci

      @@Tory-JJ pretty good as a mid too.

    • @ChadKakashi
      @ChadKakashi Před 7 měsíci

      Jinada is such bullshit.

    • @nmc400
      @nmc400 Před měsícem

      He also went easy with invoker, didnt even show his combos that you gotta do to be good as him xd

  • @somehow_a_wizard
    @somehow_a_wizard Před 11 měsíci +169

    Dota is free. All heroes are free to play, always. Its part of the game's balance. You only pay for hats if you want. The grass IS truly greener.

    • @vo1ce147
      @vo1ce147 Před 11 měsíci +4

      And guess what you not gonna use all of them, it's such a weird flex saying yeah dota hero is free but again you probably gonna use like what 5 at max.

    • @yuutootosaki4327
      @yuutootosaki4327 Před 11 měsíci +48

      @@vo1ce147 i use all :)

    • @jo4ogameplays
      @jo4ogameplays Před 11 měsíci +28

      You're not gonna use all of them, because you don't want to, not because valve wants to get in your pockets even for the heros

    • @jeremiahtorrevillas4396
      @jeremiahtorrevillas4396 Před 11 měsíci +28

      @@vo1ce147 maybe for a league its a weird flex
      Saying
      U need to work hard to get ur heroes lmao

    • @vo1ce147
      @vo1ce147 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@jeremiahtorrevillas4396 like how hard we need to work anyway like I can just sit my ass off and buy anything anyway like blue essence at this point is like worth nothing, unless you are like really new new player even then it's not that hard.

  • @ioroid
    @ioroid Před 11 měsíci +55

    Invoker finally here, the only mage who need to do chanting before use a skill. That's the price your have to pay for 10+ spell you can use.

    • @FoxSullivan
      @FoxSullivan Před 11 měsíci +11

      Not to mention that in early game, invoker players end up trying to cast faster than the CD of invoke allows one to lmao

    • @vo1ce147
      @vo1ce147 Před 11 měsíci

      No there is another one, Phoenix from marvel super infinity wars also do same thing.

    • @Adrian_Good
      @Adrian_Good Před 11 měsíci +1

      MEATBALL!

    • @Veighar
      @Veighar Před 6 měsíci

      the real price for having 10 spells to use is a life time of capral tunnel syndrom

  • @rakaboy1619
    @rakaboy1619 Před 11 měsíci +115

    Great video! Especially love how you provide a counter for this stuff, so that it doesn't seem too OP. In my opinion video about comparing META and patches of both games would also be quite interesting, seeing how Dota frequently changes heroes around, while League tries to keep them the same, just adjusting numbers

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci +14

      I considered it, but couldn't get an easy way to see the league patches like you can for dota ones.

  • @mikelezhnin8601
    @mikelezhnin8601 Před 11 měsíci +32

    It's kinda funny how for dota 2 players most of this stuff looks normal (except enchantress, I think we can all agree it's complete bullshit)
    imho the real insane stuff for them is core WW/AA/willow/snapfire who shoot from the range similar to sniper and deal insane damage

    • @Inf1e
      @Inf1e Před 11 měsíci +1

      WW is kinda broken (but still countered by default pos3 items), AA squishy af and should stay away from fight, Willow squisy as well (but still powerful and playable in some cases), Snap is just Snap. OK, Valve, you missed whole BAT point.

    • @vo1ce147
      @vo1ce147 Před 11 měsíci

      WW was good back when she still has that broken 50 dmg on LV 10, AA, willow and snap taking too long for online . And if you talking about bs it's not enchantress it's SB.

    • @dinmukhammednurbek6573
      @dinmukhammednurbek6573 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Even the case with Enchantress and Tiny looks normal.
      1. Tiny has himself attack speed less than an average hero. And in this example I guess Tiny had no items for increasing that attack speed. If he buys correct items, he can beat enchantress in significantly fewer seconds. So this is exaggerated case.
      2. Enchantress has a great passive ability that slows down enemies, but she is still balanced with fewer health points. Tiny can easily kill her with magic, and in addition Tiny has two active skills that cause damage. In a real game Tiny is not going to stand there like a statue trying to beat her. He just throws Enchantress with his second skill and kill her.

  • @youthzedd1337
    @youthzedd1337 Před 9 měsíci +18

    Invoker is practically Mozart playing the piano. You skillfully let your fingers and the keyboard flow as you watch the beauty of his spells raining down😢

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 9 měsíci +5

      10 spell combos feel like fur elise. Spells and refresher scythe combos feel like Summer.

    • @Veighar
      @Veighar Před 6 měsíci

      @@TZAR_POTATO you can also enjoy a life time of carpal tunnel syndrom

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 6 měsíci

      @@Veighar Ha, i made this joke in my last vid!

    • @sovaovas
      @sovaovas Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@TZAR_POTATO bro, i think you should include some of pros scene clips, so people can really understand what these heroes ability really capable, overall great video and thankyou for keep dota2 legacy alive

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 5 měsíci

      Though I have considered that, it would be way too unfair to include pro clips, as it's only going to be one-sided. League doesn't offer any way to watch pro games through ingame client.
      @@sovaovas

  • @RegMeow
    @RegMeow Před 10 měsíci +7

    10:37, everytime I play LoL, I always forgot you can't break projectile tracking using "flash Summoner Spell" and wasting it

  • @sunbro6998
    @sunbro6998 Před 11 měsíci +12

    These kind of videos are beautoful in ahowing how wildy different each hero is , and just the teue depth (not fluff depth) of the game. Nothing like dota.

  • @SeiberGraffco
    @SeiberGraffco Před 11 měsíci +14

    Ahh.. finally Invoker are mentioned on the vid. Im invoker mains, and i always impress other people who only plays LOL, Or Mobile legends with this hero when they brag their champs are “very hard to play”.
    So a good invoker combos are actually very simpler than you might u guys think. Just memorize their spell combo and you guys are good to go
    Normal combo :
    1.Prepare TORNADO and EMP. (WWQ->R->W->R)
    2. Use Tornado (now it come to the 2nd slot of invoked spells which is F key) -> immediately invoke Chaos Meteor (EEW->R)-> cast EMP (second slot of invoked spell which is F keys) -> cast chaos meteor (1st slot of invoked spell which is D keys) -> invoke Deafening Blast and use it immediately (QWE->R->F)
    Simplified key combos are :
    WWQ->R->W->R->F->EE->R->F->D->QWE->R->D
    There are alot of combo out tere but this is the combo y’all need for clash and solokill people.

    • @Delacrow_l_Chawngthu
      @Delacrow_l_Chawngthu Před 8 měsíci +2

      Meanwhile Sniper just right click 😂. Occasional Q with R on running enemies.

    • @wiseland5052
      @wiseland5052 Před 10 dny

      easier said than done💀

    • @SeiberGraffco
      @SeiberGraffco Před 10 dny

      lmao it is.. but i played dota and played invoker for the most part because this hero is just flexible. no counter but the counter is your skill usage and positioning since your cd is 30 sec long for hard CC's and escape.
      if you played him and understand the combo you can use him. not that hard to master except for unorthodox combos.

  • @lorzahplays
    @lorzahplays Před 11 měsíci +33

    you forgot mention zeus
    MECHANIC : stattik shiv on every attack

    • @Inf1e
      @Inf1e Před 11 měsíci

      It's fairly new and mostly a meme, since Zeus no longer has %hp damage passive. You will be laughed at and punished for doing this.

    • @vo1ce147
      @vo1ce147 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​​@@Inf1ehe has it on his Q reading my guy reading like he deal same amount the problem is he same like enchantress and silencer three of them is intelligence character
      Here put his Q for ya
      Hurls a bolt of lightning that leaps through nearby enemy units.
      Cast Animation: 0.2+0.6
      Bounce Distance: 500
      Number of Bounces: 5/7/9/15
      Bounce Interval: 0.25
      Base Damage: 85/110/135/160
      Current Health as Damage: 3%/4%/5%/6%

    • @annpyingshek4693
      @annpyingshek4693 Před 7 měsíci

      Volibear has the same thing, this is not something out of ordinary

    • @oleksandrpopryshko7575
      @oleksandrpopryshko7575 Před 2 měsíci

      @@annpyingshek4693 volibear needs to stuck passive in melle range, same time zeus 1 lvl > Nicola Tesla

  • @bahychairyhakim8535
    @bahychairyhakim8535 Před 11 měsíci +35

    we need part 3 because a lot more hero need to be mention.

  • @TANGENT-io4wk
    @TANGENT-io4wk Před 8 měsíci +33

    These mechanics are precisely what I love about this game. And there are so many unique interactions in the game that people who have been playing it for 15+ years can still constantly find new things they've never seen before. I'm curious how it seems to other moba players though.

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 8 měsíci +1

      totally!!

    • @k45racing
      @k45racing Před 7 měsíci +5

      8 years of league and about 800 hours in smite and i just started dota 2 today. i can already tell its gonna be the same as going from diablo 3 to path of exile. there is so much more to learn and keep track of, but the game mechanically doesnt feel harder outside of needing to figure out rebinds because there is so many things to press. but unlike league as of the last 5 years, i am excited to learn something new, i just hope i can talk my friends into trying it as well.

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@k45racing good luck! See you around

    • @TANGENT-io4wk
      @TANGENT-io4wk Před 7 měsíci

      @@k45racing yeah, I agree the mechanics are easier than something like league because it's not as reliant on skill shots or timing. But as a tradeoff the positioning, vision battles, and macro level gameplay are harder in dota. It is very team reliant, even at the lower skill levels.

    • @mubarkqardas46
      @mubarkqardas46 Před měsícem

      My friend plays it as a league player i just play abaddon and try my best to not feed lol.

  • @eggycarrot
    @eggycarrot Před 10 měsíci +12

    Absolutely loved the Morphling part where the music synced 😆

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Thank you! Almost nobody noticed I think :D

    • @slahser
      @slahser Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@TZAR_POTATO I definitely noticed! Props to that!

  • @VasiliyOgniov
    @VasiliyOgniov Před 11 měsíci +26

    You forgot to mention that Crystal Maiden is a support. With a spell which literally deals highest amount of damage in the entire game (and I am serious - excluding infinitely scaling abilities like Echo Slam, Freezing Field have highest potential damage). And she isn't even really that good. Thinking about it, its quite common for supports out there to have some insanely painful skills (Earthshaker, WD, CM, Lion with aghs and probably more). I'm wondering how it compares to LoL
    Petition to make analogue for us, DotA folk, to see, is there any insane things in LoL. There must be, right?

    • @abogmus8904
      @abogmus8904 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I WISH THERE WERE. I SO FUCKING WISH

    • @VasiliyOgniov
      @VasiliyOgniov Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@abogmus8904 I mean, LoL is famous for heroes dying in two milliseconds, so there must be at least something

    • @jinnd319
      @jinnd319 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Lol is more insane for the speed of the game. Less crazy mechanics more everything went off in a color explosion in like 4 seconds.
      Assassin's in lol 100-0 you in like 2-4 seconds unless you're on some sort of hyper tank.

    • @abogmus8904
      @abogmus8904 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@VasiliyOgniov what's crazy is the damage scaling on spells, and not the spells themselves.
      off the top of my head i can't name any "huge" impact spell. some may look very cool and flashy (Pantheon R for example), but do not do much at the end. most spells are either mobility, damage, slow (CC), sometimes a mix of all.
      but i'm not an avid LoL player (not big on DotA either), so I may be wrong (and most likely am)

    • @yarikyaryi
      @yarikyaryi Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@jinnd319you can be one shoted in dota too. But you can counter that with proper itemization.

  • @Zestieee
    @Zestieee Před 10 měsíci +27

    i was just thinking, you might do a comparison video about Mana between Dota 2 and League.
    i think it's something interesting to look into.
    mana is very important in Dota and you have to manage it carefully, whereas in League you pretty much never run out of mana from the mid game onwards.
    some Dota items have a mana cost, whereas in League they don't because not all characters _have_ mana.
    sounds really fascinating. i'm sure you'd do a great job at it

  • @Coram.Deo.
    @Coram.Deo. Před 11 měsíci +27

    My boy Arc Warden didn't even make it to part 2 😢

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci +10

      I refuse to cover him until the promised rework is out, which might be next month with 7.34

    • @vo1ce147
      @vo1ce147 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@TZAR_POTATOnext month 7.34 yeah surely surely it's come next month

    • @spacesheep5567
      @spacesheep5567 Před 4 měsíci

      @@TZAR_POTATO what about rubick

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 4 měsíci

      @@spacesheep5567 what about him?

  • @attria4945
    @attria4945 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Totally free hero no need to spend anything. If you want to look cool you can buy a hat item for Ursa for only $600

  • @jiaqishao4357
    @jiaqishao4357 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I remember playing against Monkey King and thought it was fine since there was Wukong in league. I was not expecting lore accurate Wukong that claps me with a massive, almost undodgeable aoe stun that chunks me for half my hp at level 1.

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 8 měsíci +2

      He is WAY more lore accurate in dota, than in League :D

  • @democracydemocracy8026
    @democracydemocracy8026 Před 11 měsíci +45

    Additional note on Doom's ultimate (which is also called doom): Changes the game from 5v5 to 5v4. When upgraded with aghs, can possibly be 5v0.
    Actual effect: Deals pure damage (cannot be reduced by armor or magic resist, only damage resist.) over time for 16 seconds. Also silences and mutes (prevents item usage) target. Can be upgraded further via talent to also break and prevent passive shenanigans. Aghs makes it AOE and can cast on self to apply debuff radius on self. As a final FU, pierces spell immunity and dispels target. This can shut down a carry reliant on items and passive (Phantom Assasin), or prevent initiators (tidehunter/enigma) form doing their thing.
    Counter: Linkens sphere can block Doom unless he has a teammate or jungle creep ability to burn the sphere charge. Alternatively, lotus orb can reflect it to also apply doom on Doom.
    Part 3 mention nomination: Necrophos.
    Mechanic: Executes you when you are at 40% HP or lower. Also saps just under 3% (6% with another skill) of your health every second.

    • @iamguavafruitjr.8458
      @iamguavafruitjr.8458 Před 7 měsíci +2

      You forgot the part where Necro also increases your death timer
      Have fun watching YT without Buyback in lategame if you die to that ult

    • @rayleigh8536
      @rayleigh8536 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@iamguavafruitjr.8458 that doesnt happen anymore sadly same with the doom it only silence you need the level 25 talent to mute items

  • @twanto1139
    @twanto1139 Před 10 měsíci +5

    patiently waiting for Rubick to show up..
    mechanic: ctrl+c
    ctrl+v

  • @calixtobrilliantes4435
    @calixtobrilliantes4435 Před 11 měsíci +4

    "everything has counters" BUT... Those who know... the counters have counters.

  • @soulsfang
    @soulsfang Před 11 měsíci +2

    now i have to go find out if episode one had techies...lol. Good video

  • @studeogames
    @studeogames Před 11 měsíci +4

    "If everyone's OP, no one's OP" -Valve, probably.

  • @Ree-Val
    @Ree-Val Před 11 měsíci +7

    Tzar Potatoe explained how to counter pick against illusion hero's with Pugna. Guy is a goated coach with a great YT channel.

  • @goldenmoses1517
    @goldenmoses1517 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Awesome editing man actually made my fking morning 😂

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Hope you like my other vids as well!

  • @user-cm3mv9di5i
    @user-cm3mv9di5i Před 11 měsíci +8

    Love that "everything has counters" is about ITEMS that counter this stuff, not characters' abilities.

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci +11

      Thought characters counter stronger, I want to remind people that, even in a shitty draft, you can itemize better and be okay.

    • @VasiliyOgniov
      @VasiliyOgniov Před 11 měsíci +12

      To be fair, items are much more important in that aspect, because if you need a whole-ass hero to counter something (i.e. "This thing can be countered ONLY by some specific ability from another hero"), that's just a bad design, in my humble opinion

    • @user-cm3mv9di5i
      @user-cm3mv9di5i Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@VasiliyOgniov yeah, that's what I meant, cuz in league word "counter" usually means either any antiheal item, or a whole hero.

    • @VasiliyOgniov
      @VasiliyOgniov Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@user-cm3mv9di5i lolwut? Sounds dumb, ngl

    • @haryok8940
      @haryok8940 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@VasiliyOgniov You can counter with items, and its just hero will do it better, most of times with some item(most likely aghs). Like silver edge vs SD in terms of countering passives

  • @matthewchiayongxuan2251
    @matthewchiayongxuan2251 Před 11 měsíci +1

    that morphling part was so well done with the volume

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci +2

      I hope you mean the pitch! Thanks :)

  • @vesplatdamaged6994
    @vesplatdamaged6994 Před 11 měsíci +2

    a chaotic game of dota 2 makes you unable to appreciate the sound design for Naga ultimate

    • @Doflaminguard
      @Doflaminguard Před 7 měsíci

      It just stops the game momentum and reset fights lol.

  • @chrysanthemummyy
    @chrysanthemummyy Před 10 měsíci +1

    From playing together in pubs to this. Glad to see the grind, bruddah.

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Hope you like my vids!

    • @chrysanthemummyy
      @chrysanthemummyy Před 10 měsíci

      @@TZAR_POTATO If i see you in pubs again, I'll tip your nightshady butt.

  • @Moker49
    @Moker49 Před 5 měsíci +2

    really enjoyed both videos. good shit man! what was the outro song?

  • @haasa2293
    @haasa2293 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Yes, I will totally show this to my friends who play LoL....if I had those

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Go make some! Then show them the previous video first!

  • @ziadahmad2440
    @ziadahmad2440 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Nice Video ya got urself a new subscriber Comrade Potato and continue with ur sequel of these videos ❤❤

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci

      Welcome aboard!

    • @ziadahmad2440
      @ziadahmad2440 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@TZAR_POTATO thanks man 🤗 looking forward to ur new episode of insanity 😁😁

  • @jeraldscarlet9493
    @jeraldscarlet9493 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I've come alot! thank you for the show!

  • @panyarou
    @panyarou Před 11 měsíci +2

    I have almost 3000 hours in dota and i'm learning new stuff from this video

  • @Joyexer
    @Joyexer Před 11 měsíci +1

    To that ending sencence: No problem buddy, I come for you any day.

  • @jethrovaningen
    @jethrovaningen Před 8 měsíci +1

    Dude you are awesome! Great video

  • @kingsalver
    @kingsalver Před 11 měsíci +7

    The thing about dota is that even everyone can be broken on certain things but It takes a good player to exploit Its advantages and to cover for its disadvantages.......
    And sometimes you just get a shit team and lose 🙂🙃
    But yea awesome video Comrade Potato 😂 keep it up

  • @Drelga99
    @Drelga99 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Awesome video, part 3 please!

  • @mickolesmana5899
    @mickolesmana5899 Před 11 měsíci +1

    yey new video from Emperor Potato

  • @xolotltolox7626
    @xolotltolox7626 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Invoker may have 10 spells, but he still doesn't have a dash

    • @CwzG
      @CwzG Před 11 měsíci

      you don't need the escape skill if you can kill the "cause" of the escape faster

    • @yarikyaryi
      @yarikyaryi Před 11 měsíci

      He is fast enough without it. 3 spheres of wex give good speed + travels + blink + invis.

    • @saimmahmood5511
      @saimmahmood5511 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Fair, but League doesn't have Blink Daggers and Force Staffs, so not every core/carry needs a "dash"

    • @xolotltolox7626
      @xolotltolox7626 Před 11 měsíci

      @@saimmahmood5511 league has rocketbelt and galeforce, on top of everyone having a dash.
      Stridebreaker and Prowler's claw also used to have dashes until riot finally realised how broken those fundamentally were and removed them
      Here's hoping the other two get removed as well

    • @vo1ce147
      @vo1ce147 Před 11 měsíci

      Tornado blink ? Dude that hero have more than 20 million different way to escape.

  • @arczuha9209
    @arczuha9209 Před 11 měsíci +5

    trynda: I have the best unkillable skill
    kindred: No i have
    ???: amateurs
    trynda and kindred: What was that punk
    Dazzle: I said Amateurs
    Dazzle is the character that have the unkillable skill (excluding counters)

  • @halfthetimeeverytime6603
    @halfthetimeeverytime6603 Před 11 měsíci +2

    its so true every game i play with my friends i hear ‘god that hero is such bullshit’ at a minimum 2 times a game, and i love the game for it

  • @karenwang313
    @karenwang313 Před 8 měsíci +1

    To be fair, league has its own broken stuff too, like master yi cleaning up entire teams WHILE INVISIBLE back when he built duskblade.

  • @o.colpus
    @o.colpus Před 11 měsíci +1

    Really want to know which song/music plays from Enigma to the counters part.

  • @abaxoth1488
    @abaxoth1488 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Is it just me, or that music is from tinker pocket dimension from DoS2?

  • @williamlord8064
    @williamlord8064 Před 8 měsíci

    Great video, what is the song being played during the section on Doom?

  • @nicreven
    @nicreven Před 10 měsíci

    Would it be odd to ask you if I could find the name of the song you put at the start of your champion vs hero videos?

  • @nocturnalforsaken4519
    @nocturnalforsaken4519 Před 11 měsíci +2

    that ES video funny bro keep it up.

  • @BruhMeme85
    @BruhMeme85 Před 7 měsíci

    Putting aa after life stealer is a very nice touch

  • @SplittingOfPrides
    @SplittingOfPrides Před 7 měsíci +1

    Dota 2 balance is like rock paper scissors. So it's the perfect balance.

  • @lyl14ghost
    @lyl14ghost Před 11 měsíci +2

    Everything really is countered by skill and experience, which is why you get stuck in one MMR if you just keep playing, it's very different line up and thought process in different MMRs.
    Which makes it really different to other competitive games I have played. There isn't really a meta because the meta will soon been replaced by the counter meta.
    TBH Clinkz is still fucking hard to balance after so many big patches just rework the character entirely. So is a lot of chars with long invis since really you don't win Dota by play better but by having more information on the map(vision).

    • @vo1ce147
      @vo1ce147 Před 11 měsíci

      No he actually easy the problem is clinkz still doesn't have any identity because the way he was build.

    • @imfinishedgrinding638
      @imfinishedgrinding638 Před 11 měsíci

      Current Clinkz is very frustrating but I'd rather have that than burning barrage Clinkz. That shit was super annoying to face against once he gets his key items(Gleipnir usually).

  • @user-yi7ls1xb8h
    @user-yi7ls1xb8h Před 11 měsíci

    more about counter items, active items, etc... so many new things to learn...not playing this abt 7 years already

  • @paperstars9078
    @paperstars9078 Před 11 měsíci +9

    maybe top 10 counters next? like how dark seer with lvl 10 talent can create illusions that deal more damage than the actual hero? Is definetly a top 10 counter!

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci

      A counters comparison video is on my to-do

  • @Kitwanderer
    @Kitwanderer Před 11 měsíci +2

    Bro, i though bloodseeker movement speed was on 2x playback

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci

      Even after I added the timer on screen? Really??

  • @manoi8
    @manoi8 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I really thought you gonna show the full invoker combo (for extra showing off too)

  • @I-Kurai
    @I-Kurai Před 11 měsíci +3

    BRUh a vet dota player here and just saying if you keep that damn dazzle alive in clashes he will literally make a 10k gold lead look like nothing

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Dota's supports are insanely powerful compared to league ones.

  • @scottjohnson3070
    @scottjohnson3070 Před 8 měsíci +2

    ES mini fissure is hilarious 😂

  • @HighLanderPonyYT
    @HighLanderPonyYT Před 8 měsíci +1

    Noice! There were some typos. I'm a spellchecker for hire.

  • @sayabingung
    @sayabingung Před 7 měsíci +1

    you forgot bounty hunter's track

  • @practic4l349
    @practic4l349 Před 2 měsíci

    2:00 Axe brings the AXE *dunk*

  • @ponjun3970
    @ponjun3970 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Old Patches were wilder.
    Enchanress' Impetus has higher damage, the further the enemy is.
    Modern Enchantress has limit on damage per distance. Old Enchantress has no limit on damage per distance. She was basically the real sniper. But can be countered with a mere blademail item(damage return)
    Modern Invoker has 10 spell combinations, but Old invoker (Dota 1) has 27 spell combinations. Only counter is the player's memorization skill. Old invoker probably got the fastest rework in all MOBA after their first debut.

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci

      Old invoker had that aoe flamethrower on taking damage though, forget the name, but it's the only spell you needed. Tank up, run at enemy, win game. Also tornado is basically unchanged from inception which is ... wow

  • @Zocker_1st2k
    @Zocker_1st2k Před 11 měsíci

    We have 04:42 in the night and i just found you now, as a lol player i downloade now Dota 2 and want to give it a try and maybe stick to it as a good alternative cos it seems pretty fun

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci

      Sounds great! Join the discord, find a bunch of help there to get you started.

    • @Zocker_1st2k
      @Zocker_1st2k Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@TZAR_POTATO I just did thx u, i am really excited to look at dota 2 :3

  • @BouncingTribbles
    @BouncingTribbles Před 5 měsíci

    I used to play DOTA 1, lol, this video has so much nostalgia

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 5 měsíci +1

      You might enjoy my Dota Origins series :)

  • @AlexGuaikTV
    @AlexGuaikTV Před 9 měsíci +2

    Everything is broken, but everything is counterable. That is beauty of Dota.
    and not easy to cast your spell, because u will get stun forever.

  • @Vivect
    @Vivect Před 11 měsíci +2

    Invoker is a great hero for people who miss magicka game.

    • @Inf1e
      @Inf1e Před 11 měsíci

      Came out way before first Magicka. Good game tho, even if buggy af.

  • @viggo9891
    @viggo9891 Před 7 měsíci

    Nothing is broken when everything is broken

  • @eryalmario5299
    @eryalmario5299 Před 10 měsíci

    This is a good introduction to dota 2 good work

  • @Monte_Carlo451
    @Monte_Carlo451 Před 11 měsíci +4

    If we are talking pl dota 1 with dopplewalk, he can probably take care all the champion by himself

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci +6

      He has dopplewalk now in the shard.

    • @Monte_Carlo451
      @Monte_Carlo451 Před 11 měsíci

      @@TZAR_POTATO oh yeah! I forgot! Well, time for pl to terrorize dota 2 again

    • @Inf1e
      @Inf1e Před 11 měsíci

      @@Monte_Carlo451 He is strong, but still in boundries of balance. No way near old PL. New PL plays around Spear with Aghs (3x damage, 3x illusions, 2.7x illusion from spear damage)

    • @vo1ce147
      @vo1ce147 Před 11 měsíci

      Say hello to the shard .

  • @nursetamaruf
    @nursetamaruf Před 8 měsíci +1

    Bro dont forget axe dunk can kill dazzle and oracle😂

  • @RuddenLyter
    @RuddenLyter Před 11 měsíci +1

    you forgot bane's talent for cast range reduction

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci

      OH! Trueeee, I only showed level 1 heroes but you're right!

  • @YKT45
    @YKT45 Před 11 měsíci

    Hey, maybe u can make video about war fight comparison as content between LoL and Dota?
    btw great content as always, hope u get more viewer

  • @franciscoabad6379
    @franciscoabad6379 Před 7 měsíci

    An entire other world, literally

  • @ailfridha1135
    @ailfridha1135 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The best / worst part is even the counter item can be countered too lmao

  • @Drking-mz5yp
    @Drking-mz5yp Před měsícem

    whats ur music bro? in the 1st?

  • @Xtasy99
    @Xtasy99 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Nice video 👍

  • @Jyxero
    @Jyxero Před 8 měsíci +1

    Can't tell why I feel Invoker (+10 year character) more balanced than stuff like Akshan with his 2/3 passives despite Kael's Q/W/E being basically that
    Still love to cosplay old Evenlyn + Sunfire armor with him thou

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Invoker is actually released in 2005, making him 18 years old!

  • @strygwr
    @strygwr Před 8 měsíci

    Remember bloodseeker used to increase damage base on loss hp of enemy good old days

  • @EliTheGleason
    @EliTheGleason Před 11 měsíci +2

    Ayyy im in the vid 🎉 very excited for more!

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Oh are you the ember?
      Hope you don't mind ;)

    • @EliTheGleason
      @EliTheGleason Před 11 měsíci

      @TZAR_POTATO oh lol no, I'm the first comment 😅

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci

      @@EliTheGleason ahhh haha!

  • @fadhilyudistira8819
    @fadhilyudistira8819 Před 8 měsíci

    we dota players realize how broken blade of the ruined king is after getting ourselves mauled by lifestealer to death.

  • @dscicon1236
    @dscicon1236 Před 10 měsíci

    i know i am 3 weeks late, i got recommended thru on the side of a video, been enjoying it, but making me wanna try Dota 2 again, but i am super new, and tried dota 2 one time

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 10 měsíci +1

      I can help you out, join the discord and tag me. I wont be free until like monday though

    • @dscicon1236
      @dscicon1236 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@TZAR_POTATO alright, i used to play league, but i quit around 4+ months ago though, so i am rusty on the mechanics

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 10 měsíci

      @@dscicon1236 np!

  • @xynged
    @xynged Před 11 měsíci +1

    No Shinra Tensei clip for radial deafening blast 😢

    • @Lftarded
      @Lftarded Před 10 měsíci

      Earth spirit feels a lot like pein tbh, that guy pulls and pushes by gravity.

  • @JuanCarlos-qr9gd
    @JuanCarlos-qr9gd Před 11 měsíci +2

    I like that in Dota, armor is not that inflated, my lol friend told me "hey, i don't have much armor" and he had like 40 sth armor and when i made him look at the physical dmg reduction he had he just laughed a bit and kept playing

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 11 měsíci +1

      In league 1 point of armor is 1% who. In dota, it's 6%. League has the better system to understand at a glance, it's not about inflation.

    • @imfinishedgrinding638
      @imfinishedgrinding638 Před 11 měsíci

      Armor in Dota loses its effectiveness the higher the amount. That does not mean its value gets worse over time otherwise Agility hard carry scaling heroes wouldn't dominate in the late game.

    • @TheInfectous
      @TheInfectous Před 8 měsíci

      @@TZAR_POTATO idk man, I think if you can't understand a log scale you might want to focus more on middle school than playing video games.

  • @CHiQoooooo
    @CHiQoooooo Před 11 měsíci

    if only everything were this PERFECT :P

  • @dresean3725
    @dresean3725 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I thiught Bloodseeker was sped up until i realized...

  • @RadialSeeker113
    @RadialSeeker113 Před 7 měsíci

    Ill never get over how oonga boonga the names of heroes are in this game. Sniper. Lifestealer. Void assassin. Theyre all so devoid of any personality.

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 7 měsíci

      That's just their professions. Nearly every dota hero has a profession name (and what people like referring to them as) and a propper name.
      Sniper = Kardel Sharpeye
      Lifestealer = N'aix
      Faceless Void = Darkterror

  • @estebanthaddeus8170
    @estebanthaddeus8170 Před 7 měsíci

    Might give Dota 2 A try again when first played the map didn't look like this or the graphics.

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 7 měsíci

      Do not play what you do not enjoy.

  • @longlehoang7192
    @longlehoang7192 Před 11 měsíci

    BS can go faster with LS inside of him.Idk if LS's aura affect his host so you should try

  • @dragonfire4575
    @dragonfire4575 Před 10 měsíci

    Hey, I would like to see a League version of this, showing off somethings that would feel totally out of place or just insane in DotA such as graves... just graves. It probably wouldnt be too much but I want to see peoples reactions to it.

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Already have a draft, but it's behind my next series which is like 5 vids long!

    • @Dreadnote-pf7of
      @Dreadnote-pf7of Před 8 měsíci

      Interesting to see what exactly weird about Graves except maybe his passive? He is interesting, yeah, but why him in particular?

    • @TZAR_POTATO
      @TZAR_POTATO  Před 8 měsíci

      @@Dreadnote-pf7of auto attacks blocked by anything in the way

    • @jeroennickman
      @jeroennickman Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@TZAR_POTATO Graves would get gigacountered by iron wood branch 😂

  • @therealdevcat
    @therealdevcat Před 10 měsíci

    Gonna have to put this vidoe on the backburner because now I'm gonna rewatch Naruto.

  • @valkyriun
    @valkyriun Před 11 měsíci

    What about, comparing and explaning the top 10 iconic plays in Worlds vs TI.

  • @user-wb5xj7oq5w
    @user-wb5xj7oq5w Před 11 měsíci +1

    keep in mind that some "popular" counters arent usually good counter like many think earthshaker is the go to brood counter but he is actually so bad at countering brood

    • @Inf1e
      @Inf1e Před 11 měsíci +1

      Brood is so weak, she douest even need a counter

    • @vo1ce147
      @vo1ce147 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@Inf1eman saying brood is weak surely something that hit you for like 600 per attack is considered weak

    • @gagass.s278
      @gagass.s278 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Morp is the best counter for brood right

    • @vo1ce147
      @vo1ce147 Před 11 měsíci

      @@gagass.s278 Last patch yes any unversal hero get counterd by morp but they nerf it so ehh its alright due too agha not an instant win anymore

  • @Tory-JJ
    @Tory-JJ Před 7 měsíci

    I play ecnhantress, nyx and juggurnaut. I love dota 2 but i cant find time

  • @potatongina1254
    @potatongina1254 Před 11 měsíci

    also axe culling blade can kill the hero with the grave