Easiest Way to CUT TILE Around a TOILET!!! Tile Coach Episode 29
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- čas přidán 6. 02. 2020
- I use two different cutting methods to cut a hole in porcelain tile around a toilet closet flange-- an octagon and a circle. Watch the video to see why one way is faster and easier than the other. Full demonstration and tutorial.
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Isaac, put the guard back on that grinder, I have seen pieces break of those blades and fly straight at the person using the grinder. Had it happen to me, but the guard stopped the piece hitting my face. . I cringe when I see that.
guards are for sissies.
@@JeepMurphy guards are for smart people
@@markme4 eyes roll..............
shut up
I’ve had mine on for years. Recently took it off , but only because these blades won’t mangle your hand like a metal blade. That being said I never considered the blade breaking apart I may need to consider putting it back on.
As a plumber, you want the flange of the toilet on the tile, not same level of tile!!! This is the number 1 issue that renovators do, a classic bathroom remodel with no real plumbing change so a plumber isn't called in because there's nothing "complicated". The tile flange has to be minimum 1/4" above tile. The toilet wax is for odors, not water so what happens is the toilet gets installed and no water is noticed because no issue until 6+ months when the wax has worn away from the flushing and water starts to seep on the side and ruin the subfloor over time. Please, tile under the flange!!! Worst case with a plastic flange you can get a flange extension (not perfect but better than nothing). Remember, 1/4" minimum above tile to create proper toilet seal!
@Bryan Bolden not exactly sure what you're trying to say.... the flange of the toilet should be installed ON TOP of the tile, you never cut the tile to go at the same level as the flange... really not sure what you're trying to say but what I've explained is in every building code that exists, it's in all the literature that comes with every single single toilet you purchase. So, without having fully understood what you're trying to explain, I'll just leave it there.
@Bryan Bolden I'm a contractor, carpentry, but mainly plumbing and heating... when you're doing a job, the tile guy never thinks about the plumbing the way a plumber does, to do it properly, you need a plumber to REMOVE the toilet flange completely so that the tiles can be redone properly and only THEN does the plumber come back and install a flange. Every single time a tile guy who doesn't think twice about the plumbing comes, removes the toilet (because it's isn't rocket science) and then tiles, and then reinstalls it... every single time a plumber comes back 6 months later "my toilet is leaking... why?" because the toilet flange is not sitting high enough, the plumbing job was so tiny, the tile guy or handyman took it upon himself. When I worked for insurances, this was #1 problem for water damage. A simple retrofit/revamp renovation that turns into water damage in the future. And even now, I get a call at least once a week about a leaking toilet... THIS is the issue. I tell all my tile guys and other contractors to be mindful of this because I've dealt with it and continue to deal with it on a weekly basis!
@Bryan Bolden Michael Dubois is trying to say that the bottom of the flange (the lip) should be the same height has the bottom of the toilet IE the same height as your finish floor that the toilet rests on. This is to ensure a 360 degree solid seal against gas (and water) with a common wax ring. Rarely is that the case unless you plumber comes back through. It most definitely isn't the tile guys job.
But the thing here is that there are flange extension kits and many different toilet sealers beyond a wax ring. Some of those various kits have extra pieces to add spacing just for recessed flanges. This issue might have been more true 20-30 years ago but this particular problem has come a long ways with easier solutions than resetting a flange. In new construction the plumber is supposed to know what the finished floor height is, set it and move on. The tile guy has little to do with drains.
For the cheap man jumbo wax rings are a thing now days, they are much taller to accommodate for these common sorts of errors. Mike is right, this is super common in old houses, but it has been out thought a dozen different ways. Still it does need recognized if you are going to seat a toilet. Usually not the tile guy's thing.
Looked on the comments to say exactly this
I’m a plumber too. A properly installed Closet flange extension is perfectly adequate.
Good vid. I know it's not part of your tile-cutting thing, but still worth mentioning something very important to the viewers. You have now raised the floor by the thickness of that tile. And a toilet flange must always sit ON TOP OF the finished floor. Therefore it is imperative to install a small flange extender (there are many kinds available) before installing the toilet.
That’s not completely true, I’m a licensed plumber and is not even a code here in fl
That's not always true. I did a couple of American Standard toilet installations and quickly found that with the flange installed on the tile the toilet was actually a bit too high off the floor and needed to be shimmed up quite a bit all around to get it to not rock. I recently pulled one of those toilets and installed a new tile floor over the existing floor, and left the flange as is. The toilet now sits perfectly seals just fine.
I had this concern and had a pal tell me to just put a second wax ring on and not to worry about the height that the tile adds; is that a good idea?
Just get a “better than wax” kit and you don’t have to worry about height as it will set you up for any height.
@@craigsmith8320you can buy wax less gaskets, thick wax rings or stack wax rings. It’s all fair game.
I always tell my self I'm gunna stop trying to cut so tight around flanges and just cut octagons but I always end up wanting to cut a perfect circle it just feels better for my o.c.d lol
Thanks for the knowledge and the honesty in your own story. Glad you’re a good tile coach.
Dude, your videos are amazing! I've been slowly going through all of them and I can't thank you enough for all your detail and most important....your honesty and integrity!!! It's very hard to find guys like you in any industry! Thank you for everything you do!!!
Thank you for these videos! You are awesome at breaking things down for anyone to understand. I am remolding our 4ever home and will try this octagon cut. 👍🏼You always make tile work look so dam easy, which is a testament to your skill.
Thank you again
This is one of the best presentations I've seen. Clearly spoken, clearly explained, clearly demonstrated!
Bravo!
This was so helpful! Thanks for taking the time to put this together for us! Also, really liked the comments at the end about working in the trades; so true that many of us can find satisfying work here and college followed by days behind a desk is not for everyone!!
as a tiling beginner, I appreciate this video. the octagon cut worked amazing!
Go girl hard on the knees 4SURE lol
Nothing like an experienced Craftsman to learn from. Great video and very logical to follow along with. Thanks TileCoach !
I've been doing this for almost 25 years now. I've never even thought about feeling the Octagon pattern and always went with the circle cut. Bro, you totally blew my mind with that shit. Thanks for the video and keep up the good work. I'm from Jersey. We don't do mud walls around here, LOL. Unless it's a super. High end job But it's a lost art and you have a gift my friend. God bless
Awesome! Have always spent time cutting "perfect" circles for no reason! Thanks for the tip!
Isaac, tomorrow I will try to do the circle cut. Thank you for showing the way. You made seem simple. I know I will challenges but with the help of experts like you, it makes the job easier.
One more time, thank you amigo
The octagon cut is wonderful bro. I Love it.
Thanks....you are awesome. I been in the floor industry for 16 years. Now i started doing showers and do them as you teach. Other tilers i know think they know it all and i can see all the corners they cut. Thanks to ur videos. I want to one day be able to do all that great work you do. I started doing residential carpet, then moved to commercial vct,lvt etc. But i enjoy shower work much more. Thanks again and keep up the good work👍👍👍👍 by the way i also want to add that you, sal deblasi and landberg tile are myrole models. I only do work as you guys show.😎
Thanks for the coaching on this ! Definitely sped up our last two bathroom floors!
Thanks so much for making those mistakes, so we don't have to. Or at least not so often - I just spent yesterday tiling a shower surround, and today ripping it out 'cause the tiles weren't well bonded. But without CZcams, and people like Isaac, I wouldn't even have been trying to tile my own bathroom.
Lots of love, to all sharers!
Thank you for all your wonderful help. You have made my life easier. I am so happy to have found your channel. My nightmare bathroom project will turn out beautiful.
Universe Blessings!
I have never tiled before and was very intimidated by cutting around the toilet flange. Your video boasted my confidence. Octagon for me. Thank you
Awesome instruction for a middle-aged dude about to tile all kinds of rooms in the house. I have to say, the last two minutes need to be played in every high school orientation.
Great job I keep a new spare toilet flange in my van to make my toilet cuts or a paint can lid works also. But I like the octagon cut and it saves time too!
Great job coach! DIY people will all benefit from this video! Appreciate the help!
Thanks for sharing this video. It's helpful to see two different methods and then choosing what works best for us. I also liked the explanation of the grinder blade differences. Very helpful
Thanks this the best I've seen in cutting tiles to fit the toilet beautifully ...
Hi, i really appreciate these tips, im definitely going to practice this, keep em coming 👍
Thanks for the demo! Yes the circle is important when you’re cutting in for canister lights...
Exactly the video I was looking for. i'm sold on the octagon approach for sure. THANK YOU !!!!
Isaac that is so cool you use the circular saw blade to mark it. I always use the plastic covers that the blade comes in but never thought to use the blade itself. Thanks for sharing tile coach.
Your the BOMB Tile Guy !!! I started out using a four and a half inch continuous diamond blade. Two times towards the end the tile cracked. I purchased a four and a half inch diamond mesh blade and I had absolutely no problems. Perfect circle on the first try. And yes I'm a rookie these are my first tile jobs in the house and I have two more bathrooms to go. Thank you much for your informative videos. No way I could do this job without some of the tricks and tips that I watch on your CZcams videos !!! And I'll save at least $2,000 on three bathrooms versus hiring a Tile Guy like you.
👍👍👍👍. Thanks Again
Extremely helpful for me. I'm just a DYI-er. Great tips.
Isaac, I use a toilet flange that I bought just for this purpose a little over 3 years ago. I keep it with my tile tools and when I need to cut a hole for a toilet I locate where the cut out will need to be and use it to mark the tile. The octagon is a good idea too.
You're awesome TileCoach. You have a genuine desire to transmit your knowledge. Always great tips, greats vids. GBY
Nicely done. Simple, efficient, effective.
Much love back at you. Keep growing keep learning keep up the great work.
Like your octagon approach. I’m going to use that method. Thanks
The octagon cut works just fine, so need to cut the circle. The octagon also generates less than half of the dust that the circle does. The octagon straight cuts also stress the tile far less so the chance of cracking the tile is minimized.
I like the octagon idea. I also carry a flange in the truck for easy marking. But i love to save time.
Octagon seems way easier and just as good as the circle. Well done! Thank you so much for the demonstration!
As a plumber, what we appreciate is that there is side to side support for the base of the toilet. The front and back could have large gap since it won't interfere with our installation. However, fill it so when the wax fails, the void doesn't fill up with water and get under the tiles.
Well done! You seem like a genuine human being!
That’s badass Tile Coach!
Great video, really well explaind and it has answered all my questions!
I used this method today and it worked out awesome. Tank you.
Thanks so much for a very informative video. As a mature adult home owner, I learned a lot coming from the point of view of plumbing. (I am a novice plumber!)
I cant stop watching your demo dude,,so great and very intelligent,,
Good job! Way to go “Coach”!
You are incredible. Thanks for your video. Today I learn something new.
Octagon worked perfect. Thank for the tip.
Thanks for doing this - I am about to lay tile in my basement bathroom on a cement floor. This was really helpful.
really well delivered Isaac! Thanks for the information
Hey Isaac new viewer on your page. I'm a general contractor in Washington State. Started seeing you use this product called Kerdi that I've never heard or seen before., Just use it on my first bathroom to do water testing. I am simply amazed and Blown Away by how easy the product is to use. Thank you for your time and advice!
I've done the hex & it worked like a charm, thanks a lot for your video
Thank you for your valuable practical advise, as always!
I just started watching your videos. With 45yrs exp. I must say you are awsome!!. Keep up all your good work.
Want to note about not useing the gaurd. I know that there a danger with not having it on. But over the yrs its proven to only limit an get in the way of alot!!
You should always with eye gear on, or a full face shield if concern about flying chips. Maybe you should do a video on the pros an cons on the gaurd.
That's funny. I too started from college 31 years ago and decided sitting at a desk was not for me.
On topic I usually cut the circle. Have extra flanges in my plumbing supply box.
Nice job brother. Appreciate you sharing from your experience. Us DIY'ers can always benefit from tips from the pros. Thank you.
Great video. Very organized and helpful. Thank you for sharing.
Hot tip from someone who just did it for the first time, while the octagon looks easier the circle is better because the tile is less likely to break. I broke 3 tiles doing the octagon then finally completed a circle with the same tool, same blade, same inexperienced me. I think it must be just a better shape.
Oh my! Great video and raising $ for worthy causes. Hats off, young man!
Another great video!!
Another great tutorial.
It’s a great show for us learn how to learn cut tiles . Thanks
excellent instructional video, thanks
I kinda like that octagon cut , i have always cut a circle for over 25 years . I'm going to try the octagon way on my next toilet cut.
Thanks for the great tutorial. Awesome job man!
Good stuff, Isaac.
I love your channel and videos brother. I learn something handy, new or useful constantly to use for my daily work!!! Much love broski!!!
Your youtube channel is very helpful. Thanks for doing these I am a DYI guy and without these my work would be subpar and you make my work look like a pro. Thank again. I did round and it worked like a champ. I would agree on the guard on the grinder makes it harder to see your work but I accidently slid my finger on the grinder wheel and as easy as it cuts tile it cuts skin like a hot knife through butter ;-)
Most of the bathrooms I've tiled have been with smaller tile so I've only had to cut a few enclosed circles. I did it by using a sacrificial-wheel that had worn down almost too small to be useful but was perfect for cutting vertically around the perimeter of the circle. As respects a comment below, I've replaced many toilets and often the flange is screwed to the subfloor and not installed on top of the finished floor. Some of the homes I worked in were plumbed with cast iron and I'm not going to bother changing what I found. Double-stacked rings is a viable solution.
Thank YOU brother well I am about to do my first shower bathroom tile th a k you for all your help man God bless you.
Thank you for all your videos very helpful
You are such a awesome young man. I hope all the blessings come to you.keep up the great work.
Bravo! Well done, brother!
Thank for your time!
I love the octagon method!
thanks for the technique awesome videos!!
Hi, you are a thorough professional and today you did say to get educated first and then find a trade. Education is very important to lead a life and a profession to live a life. Thanks
Learning the circle is important for exposed drains. It doesn't really matter for under toilet but what does matter is code. Flange goes on top of finished surface.
I'm not a tile setter, but it looks interesting, and thanks for lessons.. Keep up your calling..
Hey great show. I think octagon shape for sure to save time for toilet purpose. Good to know how to cut circle too if you need to expose the the shape. I'm learning a lot from your videos. Thanks you.
Beautiful job - Thanks
Thanks Issac... great tips..
Great tips coach. Like you said it’s hidden by the toilet and with the new wax rings with the rubber seal you have no leaks and no worries
I find center of the closet flange and I always keep them little placed it covers when I buy this circular saw blades and keep 1 or 2 of them in my tile crate for template nice smooth circle quick layout
Nice job I'm learning by myself and I do beautiful work
great video, helped me a lot!
Your tips were very helpful thank you
Great video! Thank you!
Soh two heavy weights of the tiling world have commented on your video Sal diblasi and landberg tile where is that Mr know it all 🌟 you know who I mean great to see fellow tile professionals taking an interest in each other 👍👍
great vid man. Definitely will use the octagon from now on.
All these years of tiling and to use an old saw blade to draw a ragged hole, surely by now you would have had a simple circular template handy to draw a nice neat circle, especially if used repeatedly. But great videos and I love watching you work. I have to second the comments about the blade guard. A friend of mine lost an eye due to cutting tiles without a guard. Watching this practice makes ones bum fizz.
I started setting tile 20 years ago and used a grinder without a guard too. I put it back on after I nicked my finger and in the last 15 years I have not encountered a cut that I could not make because the guard was in place. So not using a guard is insane, yet many tile setters do it.
Isaac great stuff keep it going brother .
Thank you very much very helpful I have a job coming up this weekend and that's exactly what I needed appreciate it and I'm looking forward to seeing more of your fine work my name is Rudy Santos
Thanks for teaching us. Watching you from India.
Thanks for the video!
Thanks good stuff. I like both
Love the video very informative ....many thanks
Great Video!
Great video!! Wish I had found it before I did my bathroom!