Panasonic Lumix GX85 compared to Lumix GX8, Lumix GX7 and LX100, and Sony A6300 and Fujifilm XT10
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- Panasonic Lumix GX85 features and size compared to Lumix GX8, Lumix GX7 and LX100, and Sony A6300 and Fujifilm XT10. The latest and best of MFT cameras and the best of the APS-c mirrorless cameras.
I'm shopping for a camera and I have to tell you that I've watched this video a few times in the last couple weeks. You are the only person online who really boils down my interests to these exact cameras, updated to 2018:
- LX100 mark II
- GX9 (really a GX7 mark III or GX95)
- GX8
- Sony a6500 (or a6300)
- Fujifilm X-T20
YES! These all share something in common that you really demonstrated. They all aim to combine a semi-pro enthusiast mindset in a compact, attractive package. And then it comes down to lens systems, prices and other intangibles. I love how you lay it out.
The LX100 is what brought me here (after also deciding the RX100 was too small). It was the direction I was first leaning. I'm glad Panasonic added a touch screen (2018), but it still lacks a tilt screen/viewfinder! 24mm isn't quite wide enough for me either, but I love that it's compact, fixed and fast, like you say.
I love the focus speed of the a6300/6500, but it's a bit unfriendly as a camera package, and the Sony lenses simply aren't good for sharpness and portability. The X-T20 is amazing with its dials and design, but it doesn't quite feel as good in my hand, and lacks the flat rangefinder minimalism.
I will compromise with the updated GX85: GX9, which combines all of these cameras into one: great size, pancake zooms, tilting views, modern features and the 20mp sensor! If only it had the dials of the LX100 II/Fuji. Oh and weather sealing! Oh well..
I've written a review of my decision experience, in which I've featured your video. Thanks!
medium.com/@keithtelfeyan/controlling-sight-14ed3e1853ac
Fast forward to 2020 and l'm considering one of the GX9, GX8 or Pen-F as a street camera. The GX8 is about four years old but appeals to me the most. Panasonic giveth and taketh away with the GX9. Better IBIS and monochrome D but too small a body, worse grip and no weather sealing etc.
owns almost every camera i've ever cared about lol
So what can I say; you must have very good taste!
The image stabilization works on 4K video on the GX80 not on the others very important for some people.
Your right I want Ed the gh4 which I know is better but the gx85 is dual stabilaztion which has s guidin me more towards that the the gh4 I want to be able stabalize 4K footage not just 1080p
That's why I bought one. Plus I have a few lenses without stabilization.
You still need a gimbal with the GX80/85 the 4k video stabilisation is not that good.
Thanks for a wonderful no nonsense comparison from a real photographer - well done Jeff. I bought a GX85 a couple of months ago. Since I have another MFT body and lens collection, this was the way to go for me. Because it is supplanted by the GX9, I got it brand-new for sub $500 with two kit lenses and various other extras. I think it is a great little camera, especially in conjunction with the little Panny 20mm or the 14-140mm zoom.
I am glad you are happy with your GX85. MFT is a great format and at less than $500, what a deal!
I enjoy your youtube camera reviews, they're always thoughtful and full of information.
Hi, thank you so much for your video! I think it will bring me closer to a decision: GX85 or GX8. I think the advantage of the GX8 is, the camera is weather sealed (better for out-door activities), no plastic body and better for my big hands. The disadvantage for me is, no flashlight on-board. But I will follow your advice, to go to a shop to hold the cameras in my hand and make some shots and test it a bit, when I find a camera-shop. Not much shops left, internet-shops kill the most.
Thanks again for this very good video.
What a great collection you have! I regret that M43 has keep growing in size and to this day is not appealing anymore to me. I shoot Canon and kept M43 for backup/fun shots but now I can get a Canon M6 and is tiny and nice
Your videos really helped me a lot. I just bought the GX85, the Panasonic 12-35 f2.8 and the Panasonic 100-300. I'm planning to take the kit on a cruise in Alaska. To me coming from Canon the 12-35 is amazingly small and AF speed is fast. It's a bargain for $700. I have my doubts about the IQ of the 100 - 300. I'm a bit of a pixel peeper. But I'm not willing to carry a big heavy lens so I will see what the 100 - 300 will do. What you said about buying based on the way you live your life strikes me as right on the mark. Thanks for all the great videos.
I have to admit that I am happy with the 100-300mm. It's soo much easier than carrying a huge telephoto lens. I think you will like it on your trip!
Great video in 2022, thanks. I have a GX7 for Mexico travel... GX80 is tempting, although that back dial is dead on my GX7. No doubt the GX80 has the same problem with time.
I enjoy your videos. Thank you for taking the time to make them.
Thank you! That always makes my day!
You opened my eyes. I realized I need a fast and bright lens. So I would go with the lx100. I could go with the gx85, but I would never have the money to buy an equivalent lens for it!
By the way, the lx100 was the one in my heart. It looks so so good!! And the manual dials are just something else.
Glad I could help!
Top review Jeff. Factual and unbiased.
1) Was wondering which camera you would pick for late afternoon urban/street photography where the light can be challenging as it fades to night, GX85 (for its ibis) or XT10 (for its ISO performance)? I always have a tripod handy but handheld is more fun!
2) You also mentioned JPEGs at 14-15min. How does the GX85 JPEG's stack up to the XT10, fuji in general?
Thanks
Hi Daniel, My first choice might actually be the Lumix LX100 for its fast lens. But, if you put a good prime on the GX85 or the XT10, they will both be very good and more versatile.
The XT10 has the APS-c sensor, albeit a 16mp, but the Fujifilm lenses are top notch. Find a comfortable prime and you should do well. The 35mm f2 or the 23mm f1.4 might be a good choice for the street.
The GX85 is almost as good resolution as the APS-c with the newer sensor technology and no filter. Here the 20mm f1.7 might be good for you. All of the recommended lenses are reputed to be quite good.
The Lumix technology in the body is a little more advanced; the Fuji lenses are very difficult to beat in a value comparison.
Finally, I would recommend that you actually handhold each and compare the way each focuses and the way you set the aperture and shutter on each. You will probably like one better than the other. I think you will be very happy with either!
+Jeff Kahn Thanks Jeff, ended up with the XT10 and 23mm f1.4, you were right, in my hand it felt like a winner. The GX85 was lightning fast to focus with D&D panny tech, noticeably faster than the XT10, but the build was ergonomically a bit small for me in hand. Both solid builds but the XT10 is somewhat more inspiring....did not mind waiting the extra half second or so to focus! Cheers
Great video, it helped me decide on the GX85 over the A6300 thanks!
nice review - I have the LX100 and GX8 and the GX85 - I miss the EVF of the GX8 :) and the AFS.. lever - but the GX85 is really nice - Flip vs Tilt LCD - I prefer booth - but not possible - as a still camera the Tilt is maybe a bit more practical at times - but I sure like the fact of being able to cover LCD with the flip
I like to have the school wheel back - love you camera collection - I do have the Lumix ZS100 which is just a fantastic little camera - and takes over the reach of the RX100m4 - in style -
I like the Fuji IQ - but I love the GX85 with the 5 axis so perfect with prime lenses with no IS which many are -
yes the LX100 is just a fantastic little camera - I totally agree - at night doing street shooting I love using the LX100 and get great results - and yes my 12-35 F2.8 does not get used much :) as I rather just take the LX100 so I put the 25mm F1.4 on my GX8 or GX85 -
I look forward to the LX200 - I hope they introduce Touch LCD/Touch To Focus as I suspect they will as it will for sure have the Post Focus and the 4k modes - Also would like to see it with NO AA filter - and few more Fn buttons -
You are so right on the size and weight - O have Sony A7 and A6000 and Fuji Xt1 as well - but I end up using my Lumix bodies the most - love the many Fn buttons on them / with soft Fn buttons / C1 C2 C3 etc - just a well thought of interface - nice shutters - for me the Lumix has more assured focus over the A6000 and my A7 - yes the A7 and A6000 produce nice images for sure like the Xt1 - but just not as much fun to use - I really feel that most underestimate the Lumix lineup - they are considered the bastard child :)
The GX85 is just loaded with features - and the 4k photo features are just fantastic - using them more and more
I am glad to hear from one that has the other brands for a good reason but also really appreciates what Lumix is doing - I am certainly one of them -
Yes, what he said!
Sounds like we are on the same page!
I have a tz100, i want more image quality so i m thinking To buy the gx85. Is this Will be a good upgrade? Thks for your answers.
I really appreciate you taking the time to compare all these cameras. there are three in the mix I am considering as a first mirrorless body, so again than you. I do wish you would have spent some time talking video and audio, though. Have a great day. Peace.
I don't know why I missed your comment!
I use all off-camera audio and sync tracks in post. I use all Panasonic mft's, specifically GH and the G7. Their audio is very good, but I got negative feedback when I relied upon it. Too much ambient noise and echo. Off-camera is so much cleaner. About video; I pretty much use mft's because they ave served my purpose so well. Video really needs to be rated for how you want to use it, and my use range is pretty narrow. For these videos, I love my Panasonics.
Thanks.
Fabulous just the type of review I was looking for. Thanks for posting such a detailed and informative video as I am looking to buy a new camera and the GX80 would seem to fit my needs. I take a lot of action shots of dolphins, seals and wildlife from my kayak as this enables me to get closer than with a boat. Being a lady I want one that does the job and is small to fit the size of my hands. I have been using the Lumix Tz but have found that they are not so good in at low light levels. I want something a little better now. Also hoping that Lumix will bring out a polycarbonate underwater housing for it. I use slo mo and time lapse video and extract shots on my mac but it seems i will be able to do this on the actual camera :) You are a very knowledgeable gentleman :) What video setting does this camera have please?
Hi Jeff, again what a brilliant review ! I just have a quick question. Im having trouble to decide which body should I buy between emd5 ii, emd10 ii, gx8 and gx85. I love the design of the olympus cameras but I think without the 4K it is a deal breaker. I would like to hear from your experience which one of these cameras has the best AF among them ? Thank you for your respond.
Hi John, I think the AF among all of them is very close and excellent. I would look at which one feels best in your hands. The GX85 is smaller and cheaper with a lot of capabilities. The GX8 is the shooter flagship for Panasonic, but there is little but size and slightly better (hard to see) image quality. Try them both and see which one fits. You many be surprised at how much better one or the other feels to you!
thanks for the heads up Jeff. Really appreciate it :)
Nice comparison review. I have my doubts that Sony's backlit sensors "bringing out more resolution" other than the fact it's 20mp. LX100 is great, but it's simply too slow to zoom. I agree about the size yo-yo too. About the Fuji, can you actually change all the settings (ISO, aperture, shutter speed) when you have it up to your eye? ...I've heard there are issues concerning that. I had a similar thoughts about the GX80's jpg's vs RAW. Finally, I think there is a huge case for the GX85 in terms of value... it beats the rest of the cameras on the table- especially if you want video and IBIS.
John_M Thanks for the input!
Jeff, I believe you have the GX8 in your camera arsenal. I have a G7 and shot no video, I
like the camera but because of my early onset of Parkinson Decease, I feel that
the Stabilization in the GX8 and GX85/80 would be beneficial. I have the 14-140 and 12-32 OIS Lumix lens. There seems to be some great pricing on the GX8 all of a sudden. What camera would you recommend my getting?
Thanks,
David
The biggest differences between the GX8 and the GX85 are due to their size. Try to get them in your hands to see if one feels better. If not, buy the cheaper of the two because they will both serve you very well!
Was nice hearing your opinions without all the technical stuff some of the other comparisons do. For someone like me who doesn't know what half the stuff means all I really want to know is will it work, and is it worth the money for what I need. Skip ahead to 2019 and I just snagged the gx85 with an extra lens thrown in (45-145mm) for 450 bucks US. The camera, 128gb sd card, a bag and a little cleaning all came in at 550 dollars after tax. Now I just need to learn how a "real" camera works and what all these settings mean lol. Until then there is always the auto mode I guess.
Great review, I am eagerly awaiting a LX100 replacement, I love the LX100 as a walk around/travel camera, I sold mine a while ago and have purchased various other cameras but I keep wanting a updated LX100
You and me both! I was hoping for one by now. I guess that the only improved sensors were the 1 inch sensors and the advantage of the LX100 was the MFT sensor. I hope Panasonic keeps the MFT sensor with more improvements.
Jeff, you're a heck of a lot of fun to listen to because you're obviously a been there and done that kind of guy.
put the little grip on your sony, it will transform it.
Sir, thank you for this video. I was scrolling down through the comment section and you have answered almost every query! I have learned a lot. I got a question though that no one has asked yet below,
Which will you pick sir? Fujixt20 or panasonic gx85. Thank you
The are two important differentiating factors; sensor size and image stabilization. The Fuji has a larger sensor and terrific lenses vs. Panasonic with both In Body Image Stabilization and stabilized lenses. I must admit that I lean to the Panasonic for several rather oblique reasons including the advanced processors, superb Leica co-branded lenses and smaller size. Finally, Panasonic is a much larger and more agressive company.
However, under certain circumstances, including landscape and other instances where ultimate resolution is of the highest priority, the Fujifilm ould be a great choice.
Posting in 2019. My gx7 is running strong
you have the Panasonic 100-300mm ois, I'm surprised you didn't talk about the 5-axis sensor stabilization in combination... be interested in results with that lens vs others
The 100-300mm is one of the only (if not the only) O.I.S. lenses that isn't Dual I.S. compatible, unfortunately.. ie. you can only use IBIS or O.I.S. with that lens, not both
+Patrick Harrison
Thanks for the quick reply.
Whoa! they're not compatible? how is that? and how are you supposed to know?
I have other Panasonic OIS lenses, I assumed if they're connected to the camera and the OIS switch is on, they're working.
is there some kind of synchronization that has to happen between OIS and IBIS?
Nope. Not compatible. I'm not sure why. You have to update the firmware on the compatible lenses. Once you do that you will get Dual I.S. as the O.I.S. and IBIS will work together. Apparently the 14-45 and the 45-100 aren't compatible either. Here's a link with info on which lenses are compatible. lumixlounge.com/2015/08/dual-is-firmware/ It's about a year old, so some of the ones listed as future updates may already have new firmware for Dual I.S.
I have a GX8 and I updated the firmware on my 12-35 2.8 and the 35-100 2.8. It was pretty easy to update and it works great. It was one of the reasons I went from a GH4 to a GX8 (aside from the bump in resolution), plus I have a 3 primes without I.S. (two of them being Olympus lenses) which I can now use on the GX8 with the IBIS. Not as good as Dual I.S. of course, but a lot better than not having any at all
Thanks. Also here's another Panasonic page that gives the versions & links to firmware updates. I had to update 2 of my 5 lenses.
av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dsc/download/fts/index2.html
I ran into the Panasonic Rep yesterday. He explained the 100-300mm lens has last generation pin-outs, thus can never be updated. ...not sure I understand that, it has the same 11 pins as my other lenses. I'll be selling mine and upgrading to the 100-400mm.
So, here's an odd thing I found, your page link above says the 42.4mm H-HS043 is not supported, but I did the firmware upgrade from 1.0 to 1.1 and the GX85 now says "Dual" on the the display for this lens. Since the HS model is $1000 less than the Nocticron , I'll take it !!! Anyway, take note, it may be an error on the Panasonic site, my GX85 clearly says "DUAL" with the little shaky hand.
The other thought I had is the 25mm prime lens does not have stabilization, but when mounted on the GX85 I get stabilization (without the "DUAL" on the display)..... another plus for the GX85.
In 2024 ..if you were going to document travels outdoors on a bicycle in all kinds of weather and light, wanted good stills AND video for vlogging, nature, slow motion, time lapse or WHATEVER ...what hybrid camera would you choose?
A camcorder like a
Panasonic vx981?
Sony FX3000 or cx405?
DJI Osmo Pocket 3 or Action 4?
Olympus Tracker?
A camera like Lumix G9ii, s5iix, GX8?
an OM system TG7, OM1 ii, EM1X, EM5?
Fuji xh2s, xt10, xt4, xt 5, gx85, gx8?
Sony A7S iii, zv1, rx100vii, a6000, a6400?
Nikon ZF?
Osmo Action4? a pocket3?
A bridge camera like the Sony RX10 iv?
Lumix FZ2500?
A digital back medium format film camera?
Canon C100?
A 1 inch sensor phone (Android) like Sony Xperia 1 iv, Huawei P40, RedMagic, OnePlus, Oppo, Samsung, Asus?
...like what's the best swiss army knife camera you can think of that’s fun, mobile, with good weatherproofing and battery life?
Could you get a decent value device for each function and come out ahead for money without tons of extra gear?
There are so many options and nothing is a standout (or perfect).
All I want is the perfect camera.
Thanks for the great review. I'm coming from an SLR and am considering the GX85 as my first micro 4/3 camera. I'm going on a cruise to Alaska and want a long lens that won't break my back. May I ask what you think of the optical quality of the Panasonic 100 to 300 you mention in your video. My impression is that you're happy with it.
The 100-300mm is not perfect, but for hand-holding a travel lens, I know of no better. BTW, both Lumix 30-100mm are good, the cheaper one is very small too. They pair well and would be nice for a trip to Alaska!
Excellent comparison, thank you!
Early 2020 and I'm looking for a camera to supplement my Olympus Pen F. It should be weather sealed and will be used for outdoor wildlife together with the Lumix 100-300mm (still the overall best MFT long range telezoom) and be able to act as an able video camera. After some research, I think that the GX8 is still the best MFT camera for that purpose for less than 1000 USD.
Love this video! Really helpful! Thank you!
Great video. Very helpful advice :). I have been researching for a sometime now have narrowed down to LX100 and A6000. Which one do you thing a good buy?
The reason I am comparing between a fixed lens and ILC is because of their retail price right now. Almost same priced :). Personally I am not a very enthusiast photographer i.e I will hardly or never going to use a cam in full manual mode. It is always going to be Auto mode and A/S Priority in some cases, that it! Hence I love LX100. I love its all manual dials, very easy to use, and very accessible for a novice like me to go ahead and use it. I hate the PASM dials as I never tend to move it from P mode and hate changing Aperture and ISO using the buttons hehe, plus LX100 has an amazing LEICA lens, but just 12.5MP. On the other hand A6000 which comes at the same price has more advance features, it has interchangeable lens, larger sensor, more pixles, tillable screen, builtin flash. If I go for A6000 I am sure I will be using the stick lens only in the foreseeable future.
So how does LX100 compare with A6000 with stock lens only? Does the lower mega pixel count on LX100 an issue? Personally I really want to buy the LX100 but on second thought A6000 seems a smart choice.
Also, would you suggest the Panasonic GX7 over LX100?
Would love to hear your thoughts and will surely help in my final decision.
Thank You.
Sorry I missed your question. The Sony A6000 is excellent, but the 16-50mm is pretty mediocre. With a good lens, it's very good; and pretty small. The GX7 is good, and the standard lens is fairly good. It does use a smaller sensor, but it has IBIS. Trade-offs. The LX100 has the best standard lens, but obviously no options. But if you want a camera and just one lens, it's a good option. If you want a system, the A6000 and the GX7 are great starting points. The GX7 is probably a better budget choice, the Sony lens are a bit pricier. No bad choices in your selections.
Great. Thank you :)
I would probably give a kidney to have even one of those cameras, in my Country one gx80 is literally the whole paycheck😭😭
Hi Jeff, first off, thanks for the informative video.
I'm indecisive between the GX85, the LX100 and the A6000. I'm looking for a compact camera i can easily carry around everywhere but one that also doesn't feel small on the hand, has enough controls for manual shooting and one that does good photo and video. I'm leaning towards the A6000 because of its APS-C sensor, being better in low light but really like the idea of the 5 axis stabilisation of the GX85, and the 4k video. Whats your opinion?
Well, if you have the time to wait and a little bit more cash, wait for the new Sony A6500 to be released on November 30 or so. It has most of the advantages of the A6000 (except the A6000 is smaller) and it will include the new 5-axis IBIS!!
Here again, you really need to see how each camera fits in your hand. I like the size of the GX85; the A6000 feels a bit smaller, and the LX100 is the smallest. (P.S., I don't recommend the LX200 yet).
The GX85 picks up a bit of resolution in the BSI sensor to make it roughly the equivalent of the A6000. Remember the A6000 is a much older design and Panasonic has upped their game with every new camera intro. As I also expect better image performance from the new Sony A6500.
So, go feel them in the store and then select the one for you!
Jeff Kahn thanks for the advice Jeff! I've held the a6000 and didn't like the feel, it felt small and cheap in a way (and lack of manual controls) now it just leaves the gx85 to test out live.
Happy shooting!
Nice review. Here comes the negativity: When you are talking about the size of the gx85 in comparison to the GX7 you are actually holding the LX100. I guess it goes to show that it is very similar, but I'm gessing the gx85 isnt "a tad smaller in some of the dimentions (to the GX7)"
Yep, the GX85 feels a bit heftier!
Thanks for a great review. I am thinking about the gx85 over my G7.
Hello, Out of the LX100 and the GX85, which would you say is better for video? Which produces the best footage? I know you said you like the lx100, but I think that is because you like macro, indoor shooting? I will be shooting mainly outdoors, and natural settings..
Go for the GX85. Interchangeable lenses really improve your videos and allow close-ups and wide-angle location establishing shots.
Hmm. I've been using a bigger camera with some other features. But want to buy a Gx80, as there are many many positive factors over the old one in video. I WOULD be using it differently, but that is good, I think!
Thanks Jeff, I well take your advise.
I'd love to see a video comparing the lx100 and the g85. I'm looking for a small camera for video, and I will not be buying any extra lenses. I've whittled down my choices to these two cameras, and the zs100 (i will use it for travel)
Thanks Jeff for the great review , im looking for my first micro 4/3 im still a amateur .
But i cant decide a gx8 or the gx85 , do you think its worth to spend the extra bucks and get a gx8 instead of the gx85?
Thanks in advance
Profex85 You know I like them both. Personally, I would opt for the GX8 only because I like the size, it still fits in my small case, and I like the few extra features. But, I would recommend you hold and shoot both of them at the local photo shop. If the GX85 fits your hand better, go for it! Especially if you don't need the extra features. The image quality on both is so good!
Thanks :) , just bought the gx8 this morning with a 14-140 lumix lens and i could not be happier :)
Hi, I'm in the same situation you was. I can't make a decision GX85 or GX8. I like the fact, that the GX8 is weather sealed and has a better quality body but no flashlight. On the other hand, the GX85 is a smaller and lighter and has flashlight. I guess, I need to see both cameras in a shop to feel and try the cameras for a decision.
What was your impression to hold both cameras in your hands to make a decision to buy the GX8?
+Andreas Becker i like the oled screen more of the gx8 and overall it gave me a more premium feeling :) , very happy with the gx8
Are you going to order the new FujiFilm X-T20? If you have looked at the specs, what are your thoughts comparing it against the XT10?
Hi Katie. No, I will not buy an XT20. If you are comparing the XT10 to the XT20, I would recommend the XT20 by virtue of the 24mp vs 16.3mp sensor, and one stop higher ISO due to the newer processor. It has several other minor advantages that more than justify the $100 price increase.
I will not switch from my Sony A6500 unless Fuji implements IBIS. Despite the superb Fuji lenses and better controls, I prefer IBIS.
But if you don't need IBIS, the Fujifilm is a fun and pro-caliber camera in good hands.
PS, sorry to take so long. I wanted to do some research before rendering an opinion.
Great comparison!
Thanks Brian!
Thanks for you reviews , but please can you show a side by side pics and videos samples , imagines quality its more important than specs or features .
Hi Jose, I wish I could do that meaningfully! Unfortunately, the resolution of the monitors we watch the images on is so inferior that the comparison would be lost. Also, the color balance of monitors is highly variable unless it is precisely and frequently calibrated and adjusted. I try to include photos when I think they make a point, but in a side by side comparison, the monitor just doesn't show any real difference between a crummy photo and a pretty good one. Video is a little easier, but my focus is on still; with a little video capability.
BTW, I use Lumix GH series for my video. One is a GH4, one is a GH3, and the other is an old GH1(until the last couple). Can you see any difference? The image quality looks pretty similar to me in spite of all of the upgrades.
ever since I saw this video I had a dilemma between the a6300 and the gx85 and I decided that for my purposes, the gx85 would better suit me. In both stills and video without accounting for grading potential the gx85 will churn out quality that's close enough to the a6300's but with a lower price point and with... a lot more conveniences (Sony's cameras would be flawless if they took some hints from pany's mft line)
thanks for doing what you do. your self and informers a like provide an essential service to modern day photography.
I overlooked your comment somehow. Thank you very much!
+Jeff Kahn
you're welcome. (:
I have the camera now. its a blast.
Any issues updating the GX85 software to version 1.1? I tried two camera's and it won't update.
excellent, practical review. Thanks for the advice!
Thanks Chad!
What is your favorite camera for vlogging? If you could only have one?
McD I use Lumix GH series cameras, a GH5, a GH4 and a GH3. I have used a G7 which also did a good job. All of the LUMIX MFTs should do a good job really; the GHs just have a few more video oriented features available. The higher quality your needs, the more important some of those features become.
I'm thinking about getting this GX85 in exchange of my A7. Beside the size, the Sony lenses are very very expensive and i can't afford them. However the A7 is a Full Frame 24mp sensor compared to the µ4/3 16mp. Do you think it is worth it ?
First off, I really like the A7. It's fantastic, especially the mkII with IBIS. However, I know where you are coming from. Those Zeiss and G lenses are expensive. I have been traveling a lot recently and when I fly, it's with my Lumix GX8 and GX85. They're small, light, and if they get stolen, I'm out about a third the money.
That said, it really depends where, when and why you are shooting. If you want landscapes for print, I'd take the A7. For general purpose with occasional prints at 8x12 or less, the Lumix is excellent for the job.
Hi. Which camera you recomendate? A6000 or GX85? For travel, kids photos and amatour videos.
That is a difficult choice. The good news: BOTH are winners and you will be happy with either!
Lenses for the Lumix are a little cheaper and smaller, unless you opt for the super-high quality Leica co-branded lenses, and the Lumix GX85 has in-body image stabilization. The body isn't small but the package with lenses is.
The Sony A6000 is small and convenient, especially for an APS-C camera. The lenses are good and reasonably priced; the Zeiss co-branded Sony lenses are expensive but excellent.
Lots of choices of lenses for both cameras these days.
That said, if price is a factor, I would recommend the Lumix for it's value and portability. It is so easy to take on a trip, and it does a terrific job on video too. If price isn't that important, the Sony A6000 with the Zeiss 16-70mm lens is a great option; that is how I use mine. Then fill-in with other lenses as needed.
Mr. Jeff kahn i need your opinion, should i buy xt10 with 16-50,18-55 kit or i buy xt10 body only and 35mm f2 lens? n.b i used just for daily photography or maybe street photography
It all depends or how you use it and how important small size is. If you want really compact and fast, the 35mm is a good choice. If you want versatility, the zooms are both good, while the 16-50 is a bit smaller; the 18-55mm a bit sharper. All have their advantages. If you intend to build a kit, all three are good starting points to build upon.
how about the image quality of 18-55 vs 16-50?
Fujifilm lenses are all very good, but the 18-55mm is one of those special values. The 16-50mm is more compact, but if image quality is your primary goal, the 18-55mm is better.
What happened to a gx85 successor? And the Lx200?
yeah?
Picture and video quality wise, is there any difference between the GX85, G8 and LX100?
Sorry I missed your question while we were traveling. These cameras all use virtually the same sensor, but the processors may be slightly different and the newer ones are improved. Also, the LX100 does not use the whole sensor area and uses a fixed lens. That said, the quality of the photos and videos of all of them is very similar. I suggest you pick based upon features and the feel of the controls.
Great points on all cam s just got Panasonic go 80 but what's with Panasonic numbering ??
I know! Pretty confusing isn't it!
any can suggest me entry level camera (which can attached mike) for shooting wedding. wiith affordable price. i cant afford sony a7s ii @ gh5 yet. thanks
Hey Jeff which one of those do you think is better for low light video in 4k?
The GX85 might be marginally better than the GX8, and perhaps the A6300, although I don't have a good comparison between the Lumix and Sony models. However, all of them should be so similar you would really have to dissect them to find the difference in performance. That said, I would advise you to try the GX85 to see if it works well for you.
Thanks Jeff!!
Is GX7 with a 14-42 lens a better proposition over LX100?
Sorry it took so long, I missed your comment. It depends, if you want interchangeable lenses, the GX7 wins. The LX100 does have a very fast lens for street shooting or low-light. Both are good.
Thank you :)
Very good review
Nonses at one place. Lx100 yes have f1.7 and gives mor elight but Gx85 have IBIS and you can make longer expositions at the same ISO like lx100.
PS lenses do not have SPEED.
Tomas Av. LX100 has image stabilization.
I remember the days that you had a camera and you allways took photos. Maybe you loose little time to see the characteristics of a new film.
Now all day in front of rhe pc.
If photographers all over the world boycotted these cameras maybe the manufacturers would have decided to make a decent camera.
But.......
Love the lx100 Fuji type controls I shoot xt1 any way
If theclx100 had touch screen I would have kept it !! Very nice lens
Now this is a review
Hi!! Thank you so much for the video, i'm thinking on buying the lx100, but is it good in low light? I shoot mainly street, and i need a pocketable camera that can shoot in low light because well. I live in a third world country and our public ilumination is no good hehe and small bc i can get robbed anytime 🤭
Hi Katy, The LX100 is pretty good in low light primarily because the lens is relatively fast, especially for something so small. The LX100 is also capable of manual to optimize your exposure and it is not very conspicuous, so it should be good for street shooting. BTW, although this review is more than 5 years old, the LX100 has done well over time.
@@jkahnfilms thank you so much 😭 i was going for the gx85 for the articulated screen but it's a lot more expensive and wasn't planning to buy another lenses🖤thanks for the replay!!
ok i cheked again and i found the gx85 and lx100 at the same price (and also the lx100 is sold out i think) so i went with the gx85 :( i wanted the manual controls you know :(
Hi Katy, I think you made a good choice. The GX85 is very good too. It’s a little larger, but it has interchangeable lenses which adds flexibility. BTW, the kit lenses are very reasonable and are a great buy. (Kit lenses are the ones packaged together with the body) The zoom lenses are a little slower (higher f-stop at maxim aperture) but are generally very well suited in a little sunlight or bright lights. If it is inside or dark outside, you will need to bump up the ISO to 800 or 1600 to get your best exposure.
can you recomend me the best camera? lx100 or gx85,
AGM Fitness Both are really good mft cameras, if a bit dated. The LX100 is slightly smaller with an excellent, fast, fixed zoom lens. If you want to build a system with primes and/or zooms, the G85 is the choice. I still use my LX100 regularly for social photography. My GX85 now has a long lens on it to supplement my other LUMIX cameras.
Jeff Kahn thanks for the answer, i need a basic camera for short films and photo edition 😊 ando i look this cameras
How many cameras do you have?
Too . . . as in toooo many!
More like 2 + 2 + 2 +2 lol. Very informative and enjoyable review thanks. I'm tossing up between a GX8, GX9 or Pen-F myself to pair with a Panasonic 15mm f1.7 lens for street photography.
hi
Advise the best camera for video blog?
Of these.
thx
I use a Lumix G7, GH4, and a GH3 and I find them very good. Nearly any Lumix will do great video. Depending upon your needs, lots of good video lenses available too.
The Sony does good video too, but not as much available for video.
A lot depends upon your production level.
wouldn't the Fuji jpegs be better than the Panasonic?
Why would you expect the Fuji jpeg to be better than the Lumix jpeg? That is such a GREAT question! Let me know so I can focus my response.
Thanks! Jeff
Jeff Kahn Fuji uses the Bayer sensor and has better in body processing from what I gathered in my research. m43s seem to have noise, poor low light capabilities and a lot of smoothing in higher ISO, which results in some images looking like oil paintings. I could be wrong, but have been researching and trying out, just about every camera system, for one worth investing in.
Fuji uses an X-trans sensor without an AA filter which preserves fine detail better, especially in RAW images. They also have some with he Bayer array. However, for jpegs, the biggest factor is the algorithm they use to process their images. Fuji has been known for years for having bright and snappy jpegs. Pany tends to process their jpegs a bit flatter and more realistic, but the clarity between the two depends as much upon the image processing as the sensor in jpeg mode. For ultimate quality, most of us would select mage RAW.
The same generation aps-c would have a theoretical advantage over the smaller MFT, but Pany and Sony tend to stay a step or two ahead of most of the industry with their frequent camera model introductions. The BSI and sandwiched sensors are skewing our tradional knowledge about sensor performance. I must admit I am quite pleased with my MFT for most of the work I do. But I am not a pixel-peeper, I compare my work for market conditions. So it depend on how high resolution you need for your results.
I hope that helps.
The Fuji is unquestionably a fine camera with superior optics for super quality work. The LUMIX trades size for practicality, and compensates with some pretty good image processing.
BTW, I compared a same gen X-trans to a Bayer (both Fuji) and the difference was imperceptible with my computer. Both are very good.
what can yo say about light L16?
I don't know much about it. I haven't tried it. I am not sure it is a camera I would be interested in though. Here is why: cameras are a huge investment for most photographers. I cannot recommend a camera that does not have an established track record and a demonstrated ability to support the customers.
Second, it appears to be a very sophisticated point and shoot. I prefer with manual control, a viewfinder and a myriad of lenses to capture the diversity of environments that I encounter.
For an Iphone/Android user, it might be an interesting step up. I am not knocking it; just depends on how you intend to use it.
you have a good point that's why i'm asking lot's of people to gather their opinion to make it sure that i will not buy another piece of junk. thank you for your time. i will consider your thought.
excellent review, do u have instagram so I can follow u on instagram?
Thanks Aimee Cute! I don't use instagram. Perhaps I need to check it out and get with the times!
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