This is probably the most interesting train journey I've watched so far. The age and variety of infrastructure, unusual stations, industrial sidings, the super-tall power line supports and then trains manoeuvering 20' away from one another. Fascinating and atmospheric.
It is possible that as a result of the earlier 15-minute hold-up, the train has 'lost its path' and is therefore coming up against a lot of adverse signals. At least, that is how it appears as I watch this thousands of miles away in the UK. But what do I know? It must have been frustrating for passengers and train crew alike.
Lol it’s slow. Their used to be multiple railroads that handled commuter operations so they built stations close to one another to syphon off passengers. As a result when SEPTA took over commuter operations, there were stations barely 2 miles away from each other so they go at slower speeds so as to not overshoot the station
The camera being zoomed out hurts the perception of speed. But even with that, this train is unusually slow for the Trenton Line. The cab signals keep flipping to unfavorable indications despite no visible conflicts on the track ahead. And a permanent approach limited (45 mph) was added for all trains about a mile from Frankford Junction to prevent a repeat of the 2015 accident.
Europeans would riot if their trains were this slow. Also some of these smaller stations look like a couple of guys went to home depot one weekend and slapped a station together. C'mon, man.
The Wilmington/Newark line is like this too. Just a slab of concrete with a yellow line. Even Newark station at the end of the line is neglected. It’s so sad
It usually takes about 50 minutes. Probably the switching problems had a lot of traffic on the tracks. Generally, Septa is pretty solid on it's on time schedules.
SEPTA always gets dinged by a slow signal two miles north of Levittown. It’s for the crossover move at Morris which is necessary to reach track 5 at Trenton and there’s no way to avoid it.
Jack D. Ripper: The same can be said for CTA's Chicago L trains. It might take well over 2 hours to go from the Chicago Loop to O'Hare International Airport!
I took Septa to Trenton, oh it had to be back in 1994, i did the Economy Commuter Jaunt to NYC, this was on a Saturday, no particular reason for going, just to spend the day sight seeing. I do not remember the Philly to Trenton trip taking long at all, when i transferred to the NJT commuter train, that was a long ride in to Newark then over to Manhattan. This trip im witnessing right now is embarrassing, if you have a place to be your screwed! This has to be the slowest stretch on the Northeast Corridor!
Besides the initial 15 minute delay at the start, the passengers in wheelchairs, using the "wheelchair accessible" stations, could have wheeled themselves to Trenton faster than taking this train. Some of the slowdowns seemed really odd.
I’d be interested in seeing a version of this with a speed indicator, since during certain parts it isn’t actually clear what the true speed of the train is due to the narrow field of view of the camera
Ain't this the truth, the conductor clipping the tickets was quicker walking down the train himself, swear I could have walked back to Trenton faster on my own..!! 🤣🤣
Seems like the signal system must've been malfunctioning this day... every time the train speeds up it immediately get hit with an approach signal/speed restriction despite the track ahead being clear
If you need to rest up before you reach your destination, this is the trip to take! Acquiring new trains for the system is not the problem here. I do not know why this trip is taking this long??
I took the train from Edinburgh to Sterling roughly the same distance as Philly to Trenton ,got there in under 45mim...in a vastly more comfortable couch....
Ain't this the truth, the conductor clipping the tickets was quicker walking down the train himself, swear I could have walked back to Trenton faster on my own..!! 🤣🤣
I don't know what the problem was with the speed. This vdeo ran 1:15:37 while the schedulled running time 30th St. to Trenton is 0:52. Engineer didn't go to Warp Speed until after Cornwells Hts. Slow order following trackwork? Delay at Powelton Ave Coach Yard didn't help (just after 30th St.)
37:57 THAT is a station!? It’s a couple of steps next to the track! Also, what is with the constant acceleration to a good speed to a deceleration or walking speed? What’s going on with that?
Even given the state of SEPTA and American transit funding in general, this was just a bad day for the line. Track 3 was out of service and the cab signals kept giving slow indications, hence the routine beeping being heard.
I don't see the problem. the switch was open to allow the train to go to the correct direction, so whats the problem? on a good clear bright day you can see that signal at 20:17 from the expressway its that bright. I think they should make it so that the Keystones started using North Philadelphia instead of 30th and wasting 15 minutes by having to back track. 29:30 is where #188 went flying. They can program the PTC to have the system know where track workers are? I really like that. 36:27 are they even allowed on that track? I thought it was owned by CSAO.
30th is the busiest station for Keystone trains. No way they don’t stop there. Amtrak originally stopped using North Philadelphia because Philadelphia passengers for the Keystone and Broadway Limited refused to go out of their way to wait for a train in a dangerous neighborhood.
CTA the same constant story on L trains going to O'Hare Airport! You're more than likely to miss your flight! 10 miles an hour on all CTA L LINES. Constant switching problems and the motorman texting and watching videos!
Thought these trains were supposed to be quick...😐 That's what happens when you leave Philly for the Midwest (Milwaukee), and I'm talking 30 years ago!
This is probably the most interesting train journey I've watched so far. The age and variety of infrastructure, unusual stations, industrial sidings, the super-tall power line supports and then trains manoeuvering 20' away from one another. Fascinating and atmospheric.
Philadelphia to Trenton at a break neck speed of 10mph!
What are you talking about? they can go 90mph for a lot of the gaps between stations.
@@kevinhoward9593 He's talking about in the video because the Silverliners are going slow
It is possible that as a result of the earlier 15-minute hold-up, the train has 'lost its path' and is therefore coming up against a lot of adverse signals.
At least, that is how it appears as I watch this thousands of miles away in the UK.
But what do I know?
It must have been frustrating for passengers and train crew alike.
Lol it’s slow. Their used to be multiple railroads that handled commuter operations so they built stations close to one another to syphon off passengers. As a result when SEPTA took over commuter operations, there were stations barely 2 miles away from each other so they go at slower speeds so as to not overshoot the station
The camera being zoomed out hurts the perception of speed. But even with that, this train is unusually slow for the Trenton Line. The cab signals keep flipping to unfavorable indications despite no visible conflicts on the track ahead. And a permanent approach limited (45 mph) was added for all trains about a mile from Frankford Junction to prevent a repeat of the 2015 accident.
What a strange ride, slow magic in rust and steel. And a lot to see (love the forest area at the end)
Europeans would riot if their trains were this slow. Also some of these smaller stations look like a couple of guys went to home depot one weekend and slapped a station together. C'mon, man.
lmfao
@@ned272 This is one of the better lines imo. Take a look at the Doylestown line, some of it is 1 track lol
Warminster Line is the same way & it's a pain in the ass to get there from Suburban
The Wilmington/Newark line is like this too. Just a slab of concrete with a yellow line. Even Newark station at the end of the line is neglected. It’s so sad
They literally used wood to upgrade an LIRR station. 😹
God, this ride was painful lol
It usually takes about 50 minutes. Probably the switching problems had a lot of traffic on the tracks. Generally, Septa is pretty solid on it's on time schedules.
Especially doing 20 on 80 mph track! Even worse between Levittown and Trenton, doing 20 on 100 mph track.
lmao spambot
SEPTA always gets dinged by a slow signal two miles north of Levittown. It’s for the crossover move at Morris which is necessary to reach track 5 at Trenton and there’s no way to avoid it.
Fan Railer: In the amount of time it took to go from Philadelphia to Trenton you could be in Portland Maine by flying in a jet.
If this train was any slower, the passengers could get out and walk to Trenton. It would be faster!
That won't work. You don't know how many minutes that Septa travel from Philadelphia 30th street to Trenton. Besides, don't make any jokes, please.
@@durece100 Sure I do. I rode on that train more than a few times. And you might wanna lighten up a bit.
@@Catnip11147 No you don't.
@@durece100 Yeah, okay. Keep telling yourself that.
Jack D. Ripper: The same can be said for CTA's Chicago L trains. It might take well over 2 hours to go from the Chicago Loop to O'Hare International Airport!
I took Septa to Trenton, oh it had to be back in 1994, i did the Economy Commuter Jaunt to NYC, this was on a Saturday, no particular reason for going, just to spend the day sight seeing. I do not remember the Philly to Trenton trip taking long at all, when i transferred to the NJT commuter train, that was a long ride in to Newark then over to Manhattan. This trip im witnessing right now is embarrassing, if you have a place to be your screwed! This has to be the slowest stretch on the Northeast Corridor!
Besides the initial 15 minute delay at the start, the passengers in wheelchairs, using the "wheelchair accessible" stations, could have wheeled themselves to Trenton faster than taking this train. Some of the slowdowns seemed really odd.
Track speed "east" of Bridesburg is 100 mph. (My home station is Levittown, which now has the new platforms open)
I’d be interested in seeing a version of this with a speed indicator, since during certain parts it isn’t actually clear what the true speed of the train is due to the narrow field of view of the camera
Wow I’m surprise the ADA doesn’t go for SEPTA. Not a lot of assessable stations
The Septic system !
Ain't this the truth, the conductor clipping the tickets was quicker walking down the train himself, swear I could have walked back to Trenton faster on my own..!! 🤣🤣
Amtrak is controlling the line from 30th out. Not sure why the delays
Urban decay in slow motion.
Seems like the signal system must've been malfunctioning this day... every time the train speeds up it immediately get hit with an approach signal/speed restriction despite the track ahead being clear
The train was moving so slowly, that I felt asleep.
That's how we felt on the train
If you need to rest up before you reach your destination, this is the trip to take! Acquiring new trains for the system is not the problem here. I do not know why this trip is taking this long??
The buzzer on this train sounds like the train is flatulent!
29:28 passing where Amtrak train 188 derailed in 2015.
I took the train from Edinburgh to Sterling roughly the same distance as Philly to Trenton ,got there in under 45mim...in a vastly more comfortable couch....
I'm confused. This SEPTA line runs parallel to I-95 - right? Near the 34 minute mark, you see an interstate - what interstate is that?
That is indeed I-95
Nice ride
Ain't this the truth, the conductor clipping the tickets was quicker walking down the train himself, swear I could have walked back to Trenton faster on my own..!! 🤣🤣
What was the initial delay for?
No point in watching video untill 16 minutes in.....
here in the uk we would be topping 90 mph by now
Is it Express to Holmesburg Junction, and Local to Trenton?
And slowly we go.
Where's the bridge over the Delaware?
I don't know what the problem was with the speed. This vdeo ran 1:15:37 while the schedulled running time 30th St. to Trenton is 0:52. Engineer didn't go to Warp Speed until after Cornwells Hts. Slow order following trackwork? Delay at Powelton Ave Coach Yard didn't help (just after 30th St.)
37:57 THAT is a station!? It’s a couple of steps next to the track! Also, what is with the constant acceleration to a good speed to a deceleration or walking speed? What’s going on with that?
OfficialRyanx that’s septa for you!
That's poor funding from the State and Federal level. It's sad some of the stations
Even given the state of SEPTA and American transit funding in general, this was just a bad day for the line. Track 3 was out of service and the cab signals kept giving slow indications, hence the routine beeping being heard.
Very relaxing. Please don't be so hard on the system. This is USA railroading at its best.
Edward Michalski this is not USA railroading at its best lol
I'll meet you halfway: this is USA railroading in a comfortingly familiar way. Someday it will be a nostalgic memory.
Watching this at 2x speed and it still feels slow
Does it take that long for the driver to take a pee????
I don't see the problem. the switch was open to allow the train to go to the correct direction, so whats the problem? on a good clear bright day you can see that signal at 20:17 from the expressway its that bright. I think they should make it so that the Keystones started using North Philadelphia instead of 30th and wasting 15 minutes by having to back track. 29:30 is where #188 went flying. They can program the PTC to have the system know where track workers are? I really like that. 36:27 are they even allowed on that track? I thought it was owned by CSAO.
May have been a switch up ahead, out of site, or a switch on another trains route that conflicted with this train’s path
30th is the busiest station for Keystone trains. No way they don’t stop there. Amtrak originally stopped using North Philadelphia because Philadelphia passengers for the Keystone and Broadway Limited refused to go out of their way to wait for a train in a dangerous neighborhood.
Did you ever think about cleaning your windshield ?
As a passenger, I'm not really able to do that
35mns to go from 30th St to trenton,,,no wonder no one rides the rails
Correction 1hr15mins,,,painful
CTA the same constant story on L trains going to O'Hare Airport! You're more than likely to miss your flight! 10 miles an hour on all CTA L LINES. Constant switching problems and the motorman texting and watching videos!
Abandoned Cross Bros Slaughterhouse at 26:22.
Can you do Some 30th street station to Newark Delaware
Next time I am in Philadelphia I will try to get more routes
NYCTA Railfan ok
Question how fast do the trains go?
Normally SEPTA trains on the Trenton Line can go 90-100mph depending on equipment.
Thought these trains were supposed to be quick...😐
That's what happens when you leave Philly for the Midwest (Milwaukee), and I'm talking 30 years ago!
Most trains are SEPTA is just bad at being a railroad
For starters, weeds growing on the platform.
What train cars that
They are Silverliner Vs
NYCTA Railfan ok
God forbid if you need to use restroom
Keeping it "trashy" New Jersey
24:29 4217?
An all stations stopping train from Sydney to Newcastle runs faster than this and it's only double track!!
What does that have to do with anything? And you realize those are different lines next to this double track Lin right?
That is painfully slow, you could outrun this train. I assume things have improved cuz in my experience regional rail is MUCH faster
This ride should not take that long.
This video is 1 hour long lol
a train on the line is scheduled to typically take 50 minutes. Then again this is an express train.
앞창문 유리도 안닦는지 궁금하다 너무 지저분하네
I'm not a big fan of the first 15 minutes of the video.
no shit...
pittsbugher would say your a JAGOFF