EPIC 2 STROKE battle - 1983 RM 125 versus 2019 125 SX
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- čas přidán 26. 12. 2020
- Hey guys, my 2 stroke addiction continues.. in this video we have an epic (in my book) 2 stroke 125 battle between 1983 Suzuki RM 125 and 2019 KTM 125 SX done by @dirtbiketv1 , there is 36 years of difference between these two bikes and around 36 years of riding experience too. I never had this much fun battling other guys, check it out and let me know your thoughts!
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1983 rm125 2 stroke battle ktm 125 sx - Auta a dopravní prostředky
much respect to the guy on the 83' RM, would be good to see more sessions like this!
thanks Dean, yea.. that would be fun!
Man that was awesome! Great to see the older bikes still getting after it. Maybe some of the younger generation can see that going fast didn't start just the other day. Keep up the great work my friend.
thats right Scott, he was rippin on that 83. Glad you enjoyed it!
Exactly why i choose to ride a 20 year old bike over a new one
I watched so world champion rounds from hawkstone Park from the 80s the other day,,, holy shit,, fast then,, fast now!
I'm 15 and I love older bikes I have a 79 yz125 I. Just restored a 1986 trx250r I just restored also and I have much more including threewheelers the old stuff is better
Awesome vid!! Love the old bikes. You should do a build on a 80s or 90s 125
Thanks for the idea! Lets see what we can do about it
I miss my old 97 yz 250😩
Great video man !!!!!!! I really respect that guy with an 1983 RM bike going really fast , these bikes were fast in their time.
Nice riding from you too Rado. Thanks for getting our adrenaline high........
thanks a lot man, glad you enjoyed it! Yea, he was really fast, I wonder how fast would he be on my bike
Total respect for you posting this!! At the same time I think you both won, two bikes having that much fun riding / racing wheel to wheel like that - so cool!
yea, it was a blast to race Rob he is such a great rider! .. I dont have big "moto ego" ;)
Best video I've seen this year!!! That old iron will still run with the new bikes!!!
thanks Jim, glad you see it that way!
Old bikes have more power
@@coltonlynn2825 nah lol
@@xxxdestroyerdildoxxx3965 wanna bet the old engines have more compression which means more power the new style pipes have more compression but it still doesn't make up for all of the power lost from the engine
@@coltonlynn2825 yes, just search it on CZcams. There is lot of dyno videos with old and new bikes
Yeah keep riding with these type of blokes and your skill level will increase exponentially !
Stay blessed brother 🤙🏽
Thanks Henry, I hope so! ✌️
Just goes to show fancy parts mean nothing 😂, your riding skills are definitely improving though Rado well done. I think the biggest noticeable advantage was you were able to brake way later with modern disc brakes.
its the rider! yea, Rob has no brakes compared to modern KTM brembo.. I rode his bike and it was a pain
@@dirtniron it’s the brakes that slow you down you have to stay wide open
@@matthewkx1006 true
Disks lol drums in the old girl
Do not ever take the old dogs for granted, we still want to run.
That was a battle! Really enjoyed watching this one!
Glad you enjoyed it Nir!!
This was awesome, much respect to both of you!
Glad you enjoyed it! thanks!
I had a 1983 Rm 125 great bike handle really great good power loved it wish I still had it.
Right on, thanks for sharing Brian!
I the same toooooooo!
Awesome Video my first 125 was an 1984 RM 125, Such a great bike back then. Thanks again for the Video.
Glad you enjoyed it Paul, I bet you can rip it!
That was some AWESOME filming. Some of the best footage I've seen (and I watch a ton since covid).
Wow, thanks Franklin, glad you enjoyed it!
Great vid, he was rockin it on that 83.
I love the old bikes brings back so many memories.
Glad you enjoyed it Vince! did you ride oldschool 125s?
@@dirtniron Depends what you call old school LOL.
I rode a 1984 YZ 125 and a 1989 KX 125, that was the only two 125's I ever had. These bikes were a lot of fun at the time.
I went directly to a used 1988 CR 500 after the 125's, what a fun bike that was and then all big bore 2t's until my first brand new bike in 2000 and it was my first 4T . A Husqvarna TE 400 left hand kick, great bike.
If you ever want to look for a unique bike I had a 1989 ATK 406, this bike was cool, one of my favorite bikes of all time, side mounted mono shock, rear brake rotor ran on a jack shaft, left hand kick (still have the leg scars) Rotax free air engine.
Mad respect to anyone that can rip that thing. I’d rather be on a supermini.
Ok
First
I broke my arm
Yea I have a kx100 and man coming out of the corners it has so much power to double, double, triple, it rips man. I love the superminis
exactly, he was on another level! I rode his bike and it was a pain, no brakes and no bottom. btw, you guys are crushing it on the channel, good job!!
Brilliant video . Good to see the old iron still hammering it out.
Good job mate.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks Stuart!
Awesome video! You’re a very humble fella, thanks for the content.
I appreciate that Nick, thanks! Glad you liked the video
Early 80s RM125s can rip! Very good power even by today's standards.
they can rip but are hard to keep on the pipe, he really knew how to ride it
Awesome video man! Kept me on the edge of my seat the entire time. I wasn't sure who I wanted to win. Keep riding!
hahaha, glad you liked it Graham, thanks!
Love the old full floater suspension on the older RM’s. I have had many of the 80’s bikes still do! Love the vid keep it up!
Glad you like it! Will do, thanks for sharing!
His line choice is better than yours. Follow his lines and you will do better. Watch how he enters a corner from the far outside. He keeps his momentum up good that way
His riding was spot on! I will definitely try to follow what he was doing, thanks Nicholas!
He was also really quick to clutch it on corner exits and get the old RM into the meat of the power immediately. You could see that's one of the areas where he was gapping Rado and the new bike. Classic 125 riding by a guy who knows what he's doing. What a great video!
@@DavidKAnderson can learn alot riding behind that guy
Yep, pretty much....the RM is hitting the outside 99% of the time. When the RM went inside a few times he got caught and passed. Also, I’d like to see the match up on a loamy track, not hard packed.
Great footage. I actually watched to the end...gonna go subscribe now.
@@venturini09 thanks, welcome on board!
Great video, from comparison growing up on a 86 cr125 they had no bottom end compared to a modern 2t 125, he had to be on it completely and perfect cornering to keep you at bay, great riding
Well said! his bike had no bottom, I rode it for a lap.. and no brakes too :)
I had the 83 Suzuki RM250 and I won an amateur classes with it but the full floater was the most confidence-inspiring thing about it. I wish I had full floater today
thanks for sharing Thomas
I had a 83 rm 250. Bike was way ahead of its time
I had an 82 rm 250.loved it best dirt bike I owned
cool Chris, thanks for sharing!
I bought an 83 RM 125 D off of the showroom floor, and it was a reliable, good midrange power, and well suspended in the rear. I do admire someone who can out-run someone on much better machinery, but than again talent always trumped technology in motocross, and in most other endeavors..
cool, thanks for sharing!
I’ve never seen you go that fast! Nice! Very fun to watch
thanks Tyler, glad you enjoyed it! you are right, these were my fastest laps ever, specially when I was following him
Great video mate!!
Glad you enjoyed it Joshua!
GREAT video!
Awesome machines.
Congrats.
Glad you like them!
Awesome video! It brought back memories of my 85 cr125 back then thanks!!
Glad to hear that Mark, cheers!
Thanks for the fantastic video I loved it I had an RM 125 from the late 80,s it was cool !
Glad you enjoyed it!
Rado that was awesome the fact that Rob was out there ripping on a 37 year old bike is about as cool as you can get, a year ago you would have never been ridding at this level you've come along way, the fun you were having is what ridding a dirt bike is all about.
thanks Rob, exactly.. so cool that Rob can ride it this way, it was blast to watch him flow on that track. I had a great time too, still many things to improve but I am moving forward and thats good. Glad you can see the progress on the video, appreciate it!
That is a very smooth track. On a rough track, the new bikes are way more of an advantage.
idk man updated suspension and a good tuned carb on an old bike will keep up with a new one 🤷🏼♂️
@@redrider2503 on a rough track the full floater will shine! that suspension wasnt further developed because it lacked performance- it was just a pita to keep maintained- but it ll definaltely shine when the track gets rougher. the ktm needs a different rider to get around the rm, with some mods these old rms do put out some serious horsepower numbers. the biggest disadvantages are the ergonomics and brakes and the narrow powerband (no powervalves)
Nah man, that dude on the old school RM is simply a badass to push it that hard that fast. Big props.
Nah I rode this track and it's not as smooth as you think its cahullia is anza ca
And Rado still hasnt come to grips with a 125 2T !
Stunning!!! Old bikes were built brilliantly back in the day! Great!
Yes they are!
Sweet video dude. We can see your improvement from chasing this guy. Keep up the good work bro!
thanks a lot Yohants, appreciate it!
Cool stuff, I was lucky enough to 14 in 1981 and had convinced my dad I needed a 125, and had read all the magazine tests, only brand new bike i have ever had, 1982 RM125 $1,550 plus tax as is no warranty. Good stuff.
Thanks for sharing Chris!
I am almost finished restoring my 82 check out the quick video I post it of it bro I’ll be posting a better video when I’m done
Muy muy buen video! me encantan estas comparativas entre máquinas de diferentes épocas.
What a video!! respect to you both...good Riding 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it! thanks Dave
Great vid thanks for posting it. The 83 RM 125 was my 1st Mx bike, this brought back great memories racing back through the 80s. Ps yes 125s were quick when too, just the softer suspension and poor brakes kept you holding on for life ...
thanks for sharing Mark, glad the video brought back some nice memories :)
That is cool, thanks for sharing. I had an 81 RM 125 when I was a teenager. Raced it in moto-x a few times in the early 90's.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hot damn!! I was on the edge of my seat, cheering "Go Rado!" when you started dropping in for those inside lines, then you got the pass👍 ... and I don't even like MX all that much😉
hahaha, glad I got you little excited :) it was the best battle in my life so far, that makes me think how much fun would it be to race!
Great video, you did a great job!
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice to watch my old rm125 still running like a new.. Of course w an excellent rider & good bike maintenance 🛵
Couldn't agree more!
What an awesome video!
Glad you liked it! Thanks
Dude that was such a sick ride to watch, That’s what dirtbike riding is all about. Awesome video, please post more videos like this racing other older dirtbikes. That track was awesome, got know where it’s at.👍👍
thanks Daniel glad you like it! This is Cahuilla Creek MX in Anza, CA
@@dirtniron thanks for that location mention.
Dude these guys guys can ride! 👌
Bad ass vid!
thanks man, glad you like it!
Man this is cool! My first full sized bike was an 82 RM125 all those years ago when I was 13. With that glorious full floater suspension
I live down the street from cahuilla creek and have seen this guy ripping there! Awesome vid!
Very cool!
That was a really cool comparison! I just recently got back into dirt bikes after a 25 year hiatus, (was active duty Army for 24 years), and most of the bikes I was riding back then still had two shocks in the rear, lol, (I didn’t have the dollars for a new bike). I love two strokes and I really love 125’s. This was a great video, and you’ve got to love those chance encounters! Thanks so much. Keep up the great work.
glad you enjoyed it, thanks for sharing!
Great video. Love to see the old 2 strokes ripping up the track. Experiences like this are why i restore/rebuild them.
Glad you enjoyed it! havent heard from you for a long time, glad to see you back!
@@dirtniron had to move and injured myself. Yz490 build is coming along. Should move faster in the new year.
@@TNTMOTO wish you all the best in 2021!
@@dirtniron Thankyou and you too.
Dude that was a blast. As they say, it’s the rider not the bike. Man he was fast but makes sense with all the years racing. You held your own though, you were ripping. I was cheering when you passed him haha. Awesome video 👍✌️
hahaha, glad you enjoyed it brother! I did all I could, it was my fastest riding ever, I did my best lap time when following Rob
Hi thank you for that I had a friend back in the 80s how raced rm125 in school boy class here in uk really great to see thanks .
Glad you enjoyed it Glen!
I had an 83 RM 125 ...was a serious powerhouse from what I remember...to see it from a third party perspective is very reassuring...guess that old bike was as fast as I remember it being 😂
pretty fast even today
Sweet vid!
thanks Willy
Had a 83' RM125 handled great. Great video! Nipping at each others heals.
glad you like it Patrick!
Thank you for the sound!
sounds fun right!
Awesome video, that track looks really really fun.
thanks!
@@dirtniron you’re welcome.
Love seeing this stuff! Like Jerry Robin putting the hurt on kids at lorrettas with his 86 cr250
cool, glad you like it Jeffrey!
If I remember correctly the 1981-2 RM 125 won every shootout - mostly due to a suspension that was ahead of it's time - and with a great engine. I think the 83 was a continuation af that bike. Sounds great. 🙂
respect! some days i utlilise my yamaha 490 yz my 1983, i meet too anothers modern bikes but they are serious problems to overtake me. Ciao from Bellagio North Italy!
cool man, thanks for sharing!
Great video. I think on a fast smooth track like that difference is smaller. A tight rough track and the suspension difference would mean more
I was waiting for the battle to start ngl
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Love to see this type of comparsion. Nothing like screaming old iron. On my y-t channel I race my restored KTM 125 mx from 89. It's a lot of fun. Great vids
old iron rocks! glad you like the videos, thanks!
You can clearly see his line choice is superb!
yea, he was spot on!
Love the videos cheers
Thank you David! Cheers!
Well done brother, us old 125 guys are hard to beat on a flowing track. You performed admirably.
thanks Joshua, yea it was hard to keep up. He was flowing like a river ;)
Super awesome video. Had 81 yz 125 in my late teen yrs. Thanks much
Glad you enjoyed it Wendy!
That was cool! That guy was ripping with that old bike! With the drum brakes and tiny forks, Respect! Good track for that sort of thing luckily. Good riding, keeping up with him!
Glad you enjoyed it, I gave it my best and he was just cruising around ;)
Respect!!!
Been outta bikes for a long time and recently got back in at 41. Got a 96 KX250. Love it. Im sure there are kids on old 50's that can smoke me lol. Hate to remind all the guys not old enough to remember but back in the 2 strokes day, 80's and 90's especially. KTM never won shit. Their bikes were always dead last or next to it in shootouts almost every year. If the Japanese had continued work on their own 2 strokes they wkaould more than likely stomp the Austrian companies current line up. I like the katooms, hydraulic clutches and other top notch stuff. Just wish you cold buy smokers from all the Japanese brands. Yamaha is awesome for continuing theirs even if there hasn't been any R&D go into them for a long time. I remember reading somewhere at one time that 90 something percent of all mx bikes sold never see a mx track. So Why the expensive 4 stroke only option? If most of us are trail riders and weekend off road warriors why is a balls to the wall expensive 4t the only thing most companies offer? Many would prefer a simple to fix 2t for their off road adventures. Can you imagine if Honda said ok time to bring back a modern CR250. Tuned for the trails ala YZ250X. Kawasaki making a modern KDX? Suzuki an RMX? Those kinds of machines would sell in droves, to the majority. I cannot understand why it isn't done? Major missed opportunity for them I would think.
thanks for sharing!
Brilliant, raced one in the uk back when!! Had the best rear suspension, motor was top end but bullit proof, awesome bike
That's cool! thanks for sharing Michael!
I think your a great rider. Your having fun and that's what's important.
thanks Glade, I am having tons of fun!
Cracking vid,,, love these old vs new vids,, ppl always underrate old gear,, but these old bikes are miles better than average joes😎
yea, its a rider most of the time
my favorite part:the guy on the RM is a few years older than me and still rippin'! I remember riding 80's two strokes as a teenager. time to get back on the dirt!
go for it! ;)
Love the vintage bikes. That RM is so mint!
It sure is!
I had that exact same bike when I was young. I rode it until the frame was cracked in several places. It even had the same extended seat like his too. Boy did this video bring me back!
cool Dustin, glad that the video brought back some nice memories!
Excellent just stumbled across this. I had RMs from 1976 to 1983 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome bro
Cool man!
Great vid as always Rado ,an interesting comparison would be to swap bikes and repeat the process and see what happens lol ,
I liked how you started to push him at the 6 min mark ,great ride you are getting better cheers D👍👍
haha, thanks man! we did that, I took his bike for a lap and blew first turn. . has no brakes.. I dont know how can ride it that fast
@@dirtniron ,lol I,m 58 been riding since 82 probably one of the first bikes I rode ,yep no brakes ( relativelyspeaking) compared to these bikes today ,we are spoilt today with the handling ,power delivery ,suspension etc ,they are a great bike still in my opinion,guess I am biased .cheersD
Love it! I raced an ‘81 RM125 back in ‘81. My favorite bike ever. I would love to hear his opinion on the Full Floater rear suspension verses modern rear suspension.
Excellent video! Both of you guys ride very well. Well done! Imagine if the guy on that 1983 RM was Mark Barnett (from time warp 1983)....there would’ve been no video😂he would’ve checked out! Y’all are excellent riders! Nice bikes too! Big thumbs up.
thanks a lot Russel, we had a blast!
That 83 looked sweet ! Good vid ! More like it please! LoL 👍🤘
glad you like it Ronald!
Great vid! I had an 86 rm and the worst part was the skinny foot pegs. Fun bikes. Suspension and brakes have come a long way but in the right hands.....
thanks for sharing!
Cool set up, gearing, jetting, suspension, seat time.
Thanks 👍
That was a good one real talk I love seeing and hearing 2 strokes screaming
glad you like it Chuck!
great job
thanks Nick!
This makes me wanna finish my 83' 250 & 500
Guess i need a 125 now seeing how fast it goes.
Shaun Palmer used to race 1 of them as a pro "correct me if im wrong" back when they were out dated and still won.
🤩Dangerous tthat look like 😱fun super cool video thanks for the video
Thanks for watching Ernesto!
B/c those 81-83 rm's were great. I had an 83 and the full floater suspension was very good and the bike never broke down. But, the 86 CR125 was epic and would be competitive with any stock 125 today
Well said a cr would piss all over them
86 and 87 CR are perhaps the greatest MX bikes ever made. Ever...
Thanks for the info!
@@Dashriprock4 How so? Better suspension then the 83 full floater? I never rode either
@@farquadmantis8486 I don't know that anything has better rear suspension than the old original full floater. It was quite a work of engineering and so expensive to produce that they ended up having to change to a lesser performing system. But the Honda has a stronger engine, vastly superior front forks, disc brakes front and rear and better quality throughout. 86 and 87 Hondas were so much better than the competition it essentially reset the bar for what a motocross bike should be.
That was an awesome video I was tilting my phone like I was there..
haha, thanks cool! thanks for sharing Lonnie 👍
That old rm ripped 👍 had the same bike lonnnnnnngvtime ago
. This was cool
That guys outside line choice was brilliant!
exactly, I have something to learn from now :)
My first bike back in the day was an 83 rm 125 , good to see they can still hold their own.
Thanks for sharing, glad the video brought some memories 😉
Great video and point proved here lads!- been saying this for lots of years-e.g. an '82 RM125 i first raced in '84 i reckon was as quick as my 2021 Sherco SE125 in many situations out on a track, its more exotic.
If you picked one of the many fast 125s from the 80s - (a few power dogs aside- every manufacturer made one!)- especially a fast one with a decent rider aboard, bike - even engine size - Or year won't matter.
Its been proven for over 40 or more years. You showed this so well here.
Top video with good point. Great to watch, great rides.many thanks🏆
thanks for the feedback, glad you liked the video!
125 Suzuki 1983 💪👍‼️
That was sic and proves my common argument!!!🤘🤘
thanks man!
great run... love RMs
6 speed on the RM actually , but 5 would do the job .
I have a somewhat modded 82 RM & a new KTM125 2023 sx and was hoping to be not too disappointed with the Suzuki .
I'm not ; but darned glad I don't have an identical twin to test this theory out on ...
Good race!
thanks!
Love his bike, and love his truck too!
thanks!