Historian watches The Last of the Mohicans for the First Time!
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- In this video, watch as an 18th-century historian reacts to the iconic movie "The Last of the Mohicans." Join us on this journey through time as we uncover the truth behind one of the most beloved tales of the American frontier. Don't miss out on the fascinating perspective of a historian as they break down the movie scene by scene! Stay tuned for a deep dive into the real history behind "The Last of the Mohicans" and how it compares to the Hollywood version!
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0:00 Intro
01:25 James Fenmore Cooper
06:55 Opening
15:53 Frontier Fighting
21:30 Fort William Henry
33:21 Ambush
36:01 Book vs Movie
39:30 Spoiler Alert
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This has always been one of my favorite movies period. Not just the story, the acting and the soundtrack. The costume design and sets really take you back to that time period.. In my opinion.
Great story: Wes Studi (Magua) wore his character’s costume into a public elevator once and terrified people. Lmao
One of the best movie soundtrack ever
Agreed!
John Williams’ best. Amazing. edit: Williams had nothing to do w/the score
@@The_ZeroLine last of the mohicans soundtrack is Hans Zimmer
@@marcusfridh8489nope. Trevor Jones and Randy Edelman were the composers. Google it.
Except that it was Trevor Jones & Randy Edelman.
Loved this! Especially your reaction to Alice's fate. I knew what was coming, but dang, you were NOT prepared. Lol
I was NOT prepared. That came out of nowhere.
lol, I used to work at a talent management agency and had to deal with Alice for a week. I loved the movie character…the real actress (Jodhi May) much less so.
@@historical_usa Ok so they switched sisters. No reason to talk through the entirety of the final scene lol. Really wanted you to take it all in and just go with it. Talk after.
On a more serious note, i did enjoy this and learned quite a few things. ty
I think the reason Cora was made the love interest is because Jhodi May's (Alice) mother was on-set and would NOT allow any romantic scenes involving Jhodi. So even as a secondary character, they couldn't develop the love story to any extent with Alice and Uncus. As far as Alice jumping to her death? Yes, it might not have been something Alice-of the-book might have done BUT it was the only choice left for Alice-of the-movie. I think Alice realized that she was not strong enuf to survive what was in store for her and took her fate into her own hands. By the way, normally i hate the "Well, in the book..." crowd. However, i absolutely LOVED this video
Magua was going to kill Alice. If I had to choose between getting cut up or jumping off a cliff... I would probably choose the latter. Alice just witnessed Uncas getting very violently slaughtered.
Kinda drove me nuts she couldn't understand why she would choose this way. Like you said she just watched him murdered, her father just died, she's in her mind in a barbaric country not of her upbringing. She has found herself a slave to a group who killed her father, & in her mind will torture or enslave her to a life she doesn't have zero understanding of. About 10 reasons to why going out your own way seems more preferable, especially in her traumatized current state of mind.
I genuinely read it as Magua, having seen so much death, decided to spare Alice (being a father himself).
@@Thewingkongexchange How did you come to that conclusion? He was walking towards her with a knife. He just violently cut up Uncas. He promised the gray hair he was going to completely wipe out his seed.....
If you please:
"Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World" (2003)
"Agora" (2009)
"Jeremiah Johnson" (1972)
Agora, most likely the less historically accurate movie ever, Mel Brook's History of the World is way more correct
@@JulioLeonFandinho
apparently you didn't see john wayne as genghis khan....
Also worth noting that Russel Means as Chingachook was one of the original founders of the AIM movement in the 60s and 70s. One of my uncles was kind of active in AIM back than, he mentions meeting Means at some point in the early 70s. Not sure if he did, my uncle was a notorious bullshitter, but by my Dad's account he was doing stuff with AIM.
Wow, it’s surprising that you could not understand why Alice went over the cliff. Very strange indeed.
What I enjoyed is that the Native Americans heard the calls while the soldiers were lined up and knew when to duck. I have heard of Native Americans in the South West learning this against the Spanish.
!! This!! I love learning about the little tactics and strategies they picked up on and used in such situations. It’s such an amazing part of history that fascinates me more than anything else.
It's probably already been said somewhere in this comment section but I think the reason why Alice jumps off the cliff wasnt just about her feelings towards Uncas which she clearly had but she had no idea that help was on the way and decided death was better than being sacrificed or whatever Magua had in store for her. Just my take but I think its accurate.
Since I haven't seen anyone address it, the general gives Heyward a dirty look because Heyward corrected him. "I THOUGHT British policy was 'Make the world England.'"
FYI - This soundtrack is tremendous as an album. I have it on CD, have had it since the movie came out. It's terrific.
I agree!
one of my favorite movies and soundtrack...
The photography of the this movie. Could you imagine it if it were filmed originally in 4k?
The soundtrack is off the charts good.
The native American assigned to them Moqua, Wes Studi.
It would be absolutely stunning if they filmed it today!
A movie reaction. Man, that's something.
I’m so glad you watched this. This is one of my favorite historical dramas.
Thanks for watching
One of my favorite movies. Loved DDL! Great job on the review Lisa!
I feel like this was one of the only few DDL movies I have not seen! He is a fantastic actor.
Alice kills herself because she can’t imagine a life with Magua. She had no idea help was coming 💔
I am french canadian and we have the memory here that american idians were considered subjects of the french king, same as native french, as long as:
1) They learned french
2) They accepted Jesus Christ and converted to Catholicism.
Thank you for your analysis. I have read the book as well. I acknowledge the differences between the book and film, but given the magnificence of the film, the changes are forgivable, it worked. I was more interested in your take on the accuracy of the historical background to the story, so thanks for your comments on that
Not exactly historical, but you may enjoy a more lighthearted reaction to Almost Heroes, a comedy about a parallel expedition to Lewis & Clark
Ok I don’t know how accurate it is but I love this movie. If there was a perfect movie then this would be it
very deep knowledge about history you have! My respect
Thank you!
Why does Alice kill herself? She didn’t know she would be rescued. She thought she would be a slave to her father’s killer. And she’s basically broken by PTSD.
I thought the movie was great and thought the book was great.
It really didn't bother me at all that they weren't the same.
The book sucked and was archaic in language. However the main characters Hawthorne created as literary true to life protagonists are the ones that made this film so spectacular.
You have no idea how epic this movie is. Well lets roll the film.
Would love you see you do a reaction to Black Robe (which takes place about 100 years earlier in what would become Quebec). To me it really captures that sense of being alone on the far side of the world in a vast unexplored (by you) wilderness.
I ve watched black robe twice. It's not a LAST OF THE MOHICANS but those devilish indigenous savages are creepy a. f.
An amazing film, regardless of the book. And that last 15 minutes is among the best sequences in film.
Don't know if I overheard you mentioning it but Captain Bougainville (Montcalm's staff officer reading the letter from Webb to Munroe) is Louis Antoine de Bougainville, eventually much more famous as navy officer and explorer.
A story I recently heard was a disgraceful action involving GEORGE WASHINGTON a middle ranking officer who served in the FRENCH INDIAN WARS coldly ordered a FRENCH envoy executed who was supposed to be under wartime protection. I dont know why this happened but it tarnished my image of our founding father and 1st president.
Did they name an island after him?
@@tudyk21 I think that was French explorer who named the island after himself if you mean the one near New guinea.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this iconic film, it was great to see someone's reactions to a first viewing. I saw it on the big screen when it first came out 32 years ago and it remains one of my all time favorite period films. I agree with most of your impressions and was likewise disappointed with the numerous deviations from the novel. Of all the other film adaptations, I found the 1971 BBC miniseries directed by David Maloney to be the most faithful to Cooper's captivating tale (despite it being filmed in the Scottish Highlands rather than upstate New York). Thanks again for your review and for all your outstanding videos on this pivotal period in American history.
Thank you! I will need to watch the 1971 miniseries.
Exactly ! You can't put 18th century writing in today's time frame.
Not very culturally sensitive back then.
Thank you for your historical and literary commentary. (I am the same as you when it comes to movies deviating from "my" books.)
You're welcome!
The soundtrack was the very first compact disc I ever bought with my own money. The story was one of the first to break my heart. I love this movie so much.
What I recommend you do is get a hold of Russell Means autobiography. I believe there's a whole chapter on the film. And why he chose to be involved is *because* it's different from the book which he really did not like.
I read it when I was ten; part of the reason I went to see this movie.
One of my top 20 movies. Alice didn't know she was going to be rescued...i never thought she jumped for love or weakness. Other cultures aren't sensitive to me so I'm not sensitive to them. There aren't a lot of similar shows tbh. Unless you wanna watch hokey westerns.
I just was not expecting it at all! especially because she survives in the book.
You didn’t just butcher it. You committed a war crime. 😂
I'd think that a log cabin could burn and smolder for daaayssss, depending on what's inside. Lamp oil, lard, powder, liquor...blankets ect ect
More likely it would burn to ash.
@@tudyk21 possibly.
All kinds of factors. Wind humidity rain , how dry the cabin is, kind of wood ....
As a human woman with this soundtrack with the scenery, you can't not like this. lol
32:00. Any reason why you leave out why the native allies of the French felt slighted by what went on and one of the reasons(right or wrong) as to what they proceeded to do?
I saw an interview (which I now cannot find) in which Michael Mann talked at length about LotM. He said that they based the script on a previously written movie script from - I think - about 1930. Undoubtedly he would have read the novel too, and I would also think that the deviations made are absolutely necessary for the length and format required. I understand your annoyance, much like Steven King with The Shining.
Just a comment regarding the early ambush scene. The troops involved are the 60th, as mentioned by the character Webb earlier to Duncan. The 60th’s title was The Royal Americans. The regiment were recruited from the colonial population.
The general plot of the 1992 film is more or less an adaption of the 1937 film not so much the novel itself. Last of the Mohicans is similar to a few other book adaptions in that it has been adapted so often the influence of the original text is very secondary to the influence of other films.
The first time I watched this I was so looking forward to the turtle clan tattoo reveal scene from the book, and then it wasn't there! I was very disappointed.
If you're going chronologically, it'll be a while off, but please put The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford on your watchlist. It's a very moody western with a fabulous cast.
Sounds interesting!
@@historical_usathis suggestion is right on, I highly suggest you do check it out, the cinematography is amazing and the movie will soon be a cult classic…:) Don’t know if you care for Brad Pitt or not but he said that it was his favorite movie he’s ever made and meant more to him than any other
You should look into the Actor who played Chingachgook, Russal Means. I personally see him a real American Hero. A Lakota Sioux and founding member of AIM.
this movie sparked an interest in me about the North American history and the vastness and wildness of the land - the music is uplifting and sadening at the same time just because you will never be able to absorb all of it in one lifetime - must have been even more humbling back in the days
really like the format, maybe you want to go back to 1492, although this film has many inaccuracies the sound track is 10/10 or for revolutionary setting you could try 'April Morning'
If you’re going to deep dive the American Revolution, I urge you to review a golden age classic: ’Drums Along the Mohawk’(1939) with a young Henry Fonda and Claudette Colbert, two major stars of the era.
I will give it a look! Thanks!
As an American, you may not see it. Most American films portray the British as clueless and/or pompous and/or incompetent ( right up to WW2, and after ), whereas the heroic colonists are wise, experienced and superior to the British. This implicitly ignores the fact that the colonists WERE British, and the FIW was basically started by one man called George Washington. BTW, your comment that the British "NEVER" learned to deal with native tactics is incorrect. The British army formed specialised units to use similar tactics.
Both sides resorted to what we would consider. Violations of GENEVA CONVENTION. In another words it was a nasty war of attrition and brutality. The French later showed a brother in arms approach when LAFAYETTE reinforced our army at NEW ORLEANS
Thank you! I am descended from members of the Virginia militia that went on the Braddock expedition. None of this is discussed in most history media, although young George may have accidentally kicked off a world war! There is so much revisionism that has covered the things we didn't want to remember.
Rogers' Rangers come to mind.
If you get a chance, also check out Maurice Tourneur/Clarence Brown's 1920 'The Last of the Mohicans'. A classic in its own right.
A lot of the replotting and recharacterization of 1992 LotM (compared to Cooper's novel) come from the 1936 version of LotM (a pretty good 'popcorn' movie, as well).
The question is not "why did she do that?" but what would you have done if you we're her?🤔
Was required reading in GRADESCOOL when I went.
I think it was Huron and Ottawa alonv with a few others from smaller tribes who attacked the British and Mohawk if im not mistaken
You said to mention other movies and not sure if it fits your requirements, but I'd recommend The Patriot with Mel Gibson - Heath Ledger.
One thing I do know is that the Mohicans are not gone the are here in Wisconsin on the Stockbridge reservation.
The 90s was the heyday also for Native American actors.
Absolutely!
I got both this movie and Dances with wolves of dvd. And Wes Studi (Magua) is in both
Also my assessment from the book.
I also love Twain.
This was a good idea.
Do you want to go to lake George with me? Im a geologist and historian on this area. Let me know if you in the area and would like to hang out? We could do a tour from William Henery to Ft. Ti. ps. I live 5 min from the oldest homes in the Mohawk Valley, so awesome. Shenectayd stockade 1690 burned by the french etc.
I like the movie way better than the book. :)
If you are looking at this period in movies, “Black Robe” is a much better movie. It is drawn from “The Jesuit Relations”, a primary source for the documents from Jesuit priests in the Great Lakes region (mostly Canada) in the early to mid 17th Century.
"Black Robe", "Last of the Mohicans", "A New World" and "Jeremiah Johnson". Four excellent movies.
47:00 yeah I’m annoyed with you. But fair play, you said you were a stickler for the book. I watched this movie every single day from Christmas (when I got the VHS) until Lent (hardest thing I had to give up… age 12). 😀 Then I read all of the books, multiple times. Except for the Pioneer. Couldn’t get into that one for some reason. Love your detailed info, only real complaint is absolute munchers of the names.
Check out a movie called "Black Robe".
I was thinking about reviewing that one next.
@@historical_usa might be difficult to find as it’s from the era of VHS…
Manifest Destiny !
Bingo!
11:30 Webb outranks Heyward… simple answer
How do you know it's not worth it?
You will like this movie, I think.
After 1757 the war turned in favor of the British. British forces defeated the French in India, and in 1759 British armies invaded and conquered Canada. Montcalm was killed at Quebec in 1759. The British won the war and defeated the French, Spanish and Indians. British invaded 90% of the countries in the world and fought local armies everywhere including China, Russia, Africa, and the Middle East. They were good at fighting and winning wars far from home because they adapted. This is an American trope that they were regimented. The American militias were unreliable. George Washington was a colonel in the militia and was a disaster. He retired to his farm in 1758. Men under his command massacred French diplomats in 1754 and started the war, He led the British in 1755 into a trap and General Braddock was killed. This is an American view of history..
Washington redeems himself!😂
I am an amatuer historian so I bow to your knowledge but, when Daniel Day Lewis Character almost twirls his rifle to take aim at Magua in the first ambush scene, wouldn't he have been spilling the powder in his priming pan when he twirled it like that? Just curious. Thanks
No. You would generally load the ball itself with "wadding" which is to say either paper or fabric around the ball. You can note Hawkeye discussing the different ranges he can expect with different kinds of wadding when he he is loading his rifle at the Fort.
Well you can lean the loaded rifle in a bunch or bounce it at attention or arms at port.
@@ididthisonpulpous6526he's talking about the pan, not the bore, chamber.
The pan has a cover with the incorporated striker that covers & contains the priming charge in the pan.
Whether or not Hawkeye would have spilled the priming charge during this maneuver depends on how well his gun was made/maintained. That is to say, how loose the pan cover is (it's also spring-loaded).
(Apparently the pan cover & striker apparatus is called the "frizzen".)
How does this translate into the Marvel Universe? lol
ummm there was no such thing as a MOHICAN TRIBE... I think there was a mahecan tribe BUT IM NOT SURE (correct me on that)
How were the Indians able to go into the French fort and kill/rob the wounded British prisoners without the knowledge/permission of the French commanding the fort?
They may have had permission. 🤷♂️
She also mentioned that the conglomerate natives outnumbered their French allies and may have been uncontrollable.
Mistake to read the hook first. This movie was based on the 1930s film . Another CZcams channel called History Buffs, by a Brit, might be valuable because he cuts out the middleman. Does straight film vs. history analysis.
Look up Russell Means who plays Chingachgook. He was an important Native American activist and historical hero in his own right.
I'm debating whether or not to subscribe. I will like so I can see more. I think reading the book first was a mistake. It made watching the movie through too many filters mislead you.
I was a teacher myself and though I was in the English department, the History department made me an honorary member. My specialty was ancient literature,so history was an adjunct discipline.
Too much talking. Left out large parts of the movie. Started review about 10 minutes into the movie then jump to the almost 20 minutes of the movie. What’s the point?
Thanks👍
, even negative comments help the algo!😂
There are few things more attractive in a woman than intelligence, specifically in history, or cosmology…:) IMHO..:)
And twerking.
Wait, you're not famous. But you're wearing red lipstick. I thought you had to be famous to do that. Hmm. I need to re-think my entire paradigm.
How dare you have a degree is history! lol
Your nails match your lipstick. I am so in over my head.
Holy F, I came to see a reaction to a good movie not a history lesson. 10 min of non stop blah blah blah. I have to dip out. My soul is dyeing with each syllable.
Dude. She specializes in history. Not movie commentary. 🙄
Are you sure youre a historian? Couldn't pronounce chingachkook or uncas properly. 😁
Pronunciation of Algonquin names is not a requirement as a historian.
So what ? Correct pronunciation will be made in time if needed
This commenting 95% of the time is so anoying