How to Repair a Rocking Toilet | Ask This Old House
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- čas přidán 13. 12. 2018
- Ask This Old House plumbing and heating expert Richard Trethewey shows host Kevin O’Connor several ways to troubleshoot a toilet that wobbles
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Time: Less than an hour
Cost: $10 and Up
Skill Level: Beginner
Shopping List:
Plastic Shims
Steps:
1. Don’t overtighten the closet bolts, as the toilet can crack.
2. Ensure the closet flange is secured to the subfloor.
3. Use plastic toilet shims at the low points to keep the toilet level.
Resources:
All of the items Richard demonstrated, including closet flanges, wax rings, closet bolts, and toilet shims are available at home centers and plumbing supply stores.
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How to Repair a Rocking Toilet | Ask This Old House
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Great video! I tried those plastic shims, but they were too thick so I used an old Delta medalian card. It worked well. You can't always get an airline seat upgrade with it, but who knew Silver medalian can get you to a first class porcelain throne ..
Don’t use coins to shim. Many household bathroom cleaners contain chlorine or other aggressive chemicals which will corrode the coins. Use composite or plastic shims.
I dont think he meant it as as a quick fix till you get shims. At least thats how I felt about it.
So glad you suggested a wax ring and not those green foam rubber gaskets. Those things absorb water and squish it out like a sponge. They grow bacteria and stink over time.
You have to use neoprene for wall mounted toilets, though, unfortunately.
orijimi - LMAO. Wall mounted toilets.
The neoprene gaskets don't act like a sponge though. Theegg185, yes wall mounted toilets. You will see them in residential sometimes. But most commonly in a commercial setting. You can't install a wax ring on a vertical setting because as the wax heats it will melt and you lose seal.
ChefBoyareB - lol. I pictured a terlit with the base of it mounted on the wall.
He uses and recommends the green foam rubber gaskets in his other videos.
When the toilet's rockin, don't come a knockin.
love the cutaway views. These guys are my heroes.
Absolutely perfect explanation thanks !
Tried this shimming trick and it worked. Just to test it, I used two quarters and the rocking stopped. May use plastic shims in the long run. Glad this video was available.
Coins are cheaper than shims.
I’m 4 hours away from reinstalling my toilet after tiling. This is a bad omen if I’ve ever seen one hahahaha
It is 2:26 am where I am, and knowing how to fix a rocking toilet might help me to sleep, I think!
Try melatonin and will sleep in minutes.
Set the toilet in plaster.
Thank you so much, this fixed my problem. Unlevel floor causing toilet to rock.
Wow, that was awesome! Thank you!
Keeps good readings
Definitely use plastic shims, some of those coins will corrode in a chlorine environment 👍
Looks like a flextape commercial. I CUT THIS TOILET IN HALF!! 😜
AND REPAIRED IT WITH NOTHING BUT FLEXTAPE
*Phil taking a dump*
YYYYEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHAAAAAWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's the willy wanka toilet.
I cut some aluminium pieces from a soda can to shim. Worked perfectly. Free tip.
Thank you 🙏
Excellent
Rockin' to the oldies just got a new meaning, huh?
Steve lav uses cedar shims they work great
What do you do if the flange is too high for the toilet?
orijimi, create a base for the flange underneath. Wide and long enough for the toilet to sit level and finish with a plaster of Paris for imperfections as a base
ROCK & ROLL
Good to know. Thanks
My toilet loves AC/DC!
That's an Old School 5 gal flush toilet. The 1.6 gal flush ones are into Brittney Spears.
I bet I’m not the only one who has taken out an old toilet and looked at pieces of the old wax seal and thought that it was something else.
It's like: if we need to make some ring that blocks number 2 from going anywhere but the hole let's use a material that looks just like number 2!"
I fixed my rocking toilet, now it has started to jazz! Damn toilets...
I didn't use coins..!!! I folded a couple Hundred Dollars Bills I had laying around the house. ...Did the trick!!! Lol
Still cheaper than a plumber!
And where do you get these toilet shims?
I use mortar instead of shims.
It makes one big shim that conforms to the floor all the way around.
jej3451 yes it’s so much better than shims.
Won't that eventually crack?
@@luckyskitchen4472 Yeah, probably. Full disclosure, I've only done this twice, and both toilets were on ceramic tile over concrete foundations. xD
There is probably some specialty compound that would work perfectly for the purpose.
@@jej3451 Just don't ever use epoxy grout... :)
@@jej3451 A nice thick bead of silicone caulk that gets under the toilet also works well.
Replace the seal and use grout.
Any options if you can’t secure the flange to the structure and the pipe is wobbly?
Yes... Add more floor... Add cut 2x4s... Is it concrete or slab with a void? You could technically do the above cut to fit the negative space hammer in wedges and secure with screws... If it's actually a pipe in the floor with no negative space add a flange and buy a drill to tap holes to secure the screws add some epoxy in the holes... Best of luck
Put a level on the toilet when put in shim
Umm no, that’s not the way it works. If you are shimming the toilet, then the floor or flange is not level. The point is not to level the toilet, it is to keep the toilet from moving and destroying the wax ring. You shim the base until it no longer rocks. Sometimes it will be level after sometimes it won’t.
Has anyone ever seen a toilet bowl base secured with plastic bolts instead of the brass ones? I am replacing a toilet which was reset just a month ago and the plumber did this. Of course, the plastic bolts snapped right off from people plopping their rears down so hard when they used this toilet. Never saw such in use before and I just wondered if things had changed since I was a plumber's apprentice about 55 years back? I see plastic bolts for the toilet lids, but not for the base of the bowl. Just curious.
Just googled this video due to the exact same issue. I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I popped the caps off and found plastic bolts. I've seen them for securing seats but never seen them for securing the toilet itself.
“ Don’t use wood shims it gets wet under there.. Use coins” 😂 If it’s wet under your toilet you are going to need to pull up the toilet and fix the leak no matter what type of shim you use lol
Mopping
If you have a rocking toilet, it belongs on the porch.
Putting coins will make the caulk green
Always make sure when my toilet is level.
Not the way it works
"You don't have the shii..." "ms."
I like it when my toilet it ROCKS WEEEEEEE
It's no good as your bathroom will accumulate water and your waste probably will not go down the sewer pipe properly
So, if you have a good toilet, it won't go down the drain.
:D
I would think that the coins were put in excess of pressure on one spot and chipped porcelain
The flange is even with the tile? It should be on the top of the tile ? Not even with it?
I've asked one of the major companies that produces closet flanges such as this one, they state that the closet flange is supposed to sit on top of the finish flooring. Had to know for my own install. There are templates that are designed to fit under and bring it to the appropriate height without it being on the tile.
The fix there, is to take up the John, put down a flange spacer or two, which brings the flange up to the proper level. Then, use a wax ring that does NOT have a funnel in it. Having a funnel wax does no good and can cause water damage later if there's ever movement on it. Then set the toilet as instructed by the manufacturer.
What about a bead of Plumbers putty around the bottom of the toilet?
I would not suggest it, it would take quite a bit of putty and im sure it would work but i don't recommend.
I install about 2 toilets a week
Why?
Brendan Mathers , plaster of Paris.
Use the plastic shims then run a bead of silicone caulking around the toilet base but leave a small gap at the back of the toilet. Let the caulking set before sitting on it. Caulking holds shims in place and further supports the toilet.
Using putty or even latex caulk can be a problem, for it you do have a leak down there, it may be some time before you realize it, as the water would be trapped beneath the stool of the commode.
This toilet is only good for going #1
Sykokiller , and #2 and #3
Only cost me >50 cents to level my toilet
Shim so its solid and level. Then use a sanded grout under the outside lip of the toilet (all around).
American toilets are weird. Here in the UK the waste goes out the back of the toilet and straight outside instead of under the toilet
Eman M yes but bath tubs are raised to line up with the drain going out the back. It’s hard as hell to get into a tub. And the tubs are so damn small.
This arrangement doesn't defy gravity or periodically result in depositing sewage inside a wall.
We do have those here. I've only put them in a couple of commercial jobs, not much fun TBH.
@@manit77 Also, many a hot water heater in EU is mounted directly over the bathtub. When I was an officer in the Navy Nurse Corps, stationed in Naples, I treated more than one kid who got scalded when one of those tanks decided to unload into the tub. Also, Americans for the most part have no clue as to how or why to use a BIdet. :-)
Don't use coins, they still corrode.
The toilet flange should have been installed on top of the finished floor, not level with it.
Willy wonka toilet!
Does anyone else have no idea why they are watching this?
Because you are the next trades woman to take this world by storm ⛈ 🌏
Seems as if your just remaking the same videos over and over, in different ways but essentially the same