What happens if Putin wins? | James O'Brien - The Whole Show
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
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Did Scott Ritter 'phone in to give you a professional perspective?
Scott does not phone in and ask, he is usually invited.
@@BeristwOr whacks it to teenagers
It is so easy to brainwash the public if you only allow one side of the story…. Caller No1 great example.
I know the guy has no idea about Asia whatsoever.
Stop Netanyahu now, USA.
The USA doesn't control the Israeli government
At what point did you ever think Putin and Russia were going to loose .
They sure ain't winning. Even if they win some dirt they then have to hold it. Russia's strategic aims are already defeated
When they lost thousands of sq miles of territory in a matter of weeks?
You can tell these Russian bots with their spelling. Acts in English but it’s clearly just a state voice for a backwards warlord
LOOOOSE
...they will....!!!
Finally ... 32.50 ... Helder(?) ... another person notices the relevance of Aleksandr Dugin and TFOG in Brexit and Trump and the Ukraine issue.
My word, it's Bot Central here tonight.
Bots are people in UK who wave Ukrainian flags and call Putin a mid century national socialist.
Of course it is. The words "Russia" and "Putin" were said.
Thus all the slugs come running.
@@infosuge That's not a definition I recognise. Although to be fair, some of them could be.
@@infosuge Plonker.
“my WoRd iTs bOt CEntRal…”
When commentators and journalists say the West is 'fatigued' by Ukraine my blood boils! Do they think the war is entertaining reality TV that we soon become bored with? Ask Ukrainians, especially those fighting for their country (and democracy) what 'fatigue' means!
They're right though. Support for Ukraine requires political drive which only comes if people are paying attention to it. Look at how support started to dwindle when certain other conflicts took over the headlines.
It's because the media frames the whole "fatigue" discussion wrongly.. and they do it knowingly.
It's not a discussion about whether the West is tired of supporting Ukraine - it's about whether it makes sense to back a losing horse all the way to the finish line.. the "fatigue" is not down to lack of will, its about what is actually possible in the real world - and maximalist goals are out the window.. for both Russia and Ukraine, neither will get what they want - because they are unable to achieve those goals, now and later.
So, in short.. "fatigue" is simply a buzzword used to mask a larger discussion - primarily in regards to whether or not its time to climb down from the tree, force the Ukrainians to iron out some sort of deal, and so forth.
'Democracy' ??
@@djolivierastro Yeah, democracy. Have you heard of it?
@@dannylad1600 Yes, that's true of course, and governments should explain more forcefully and clearly ti their people that the war against Ukraine is not only a local concern for Ukraine but has implications for everyone.
James an interesting debate but it doesn’t address the realistic concerns of the Russian Federation that NATO is annexing and setting up military bases on the borders of what was the former Soviet union,remember what America did when the then Soviet Union sought to put misses within Cuba, further whilst we may say it is repugnant that force of arms is used to invade the Ukraine must be considered but there should be diplomatic solutions , as under no circumstances should anyone nation do this, we only have to hold up Israel and the England’s ( Iraq, Afghanistan etc )... occupation of Northern Ireland are to further evidence recent examples it cannot be right that we in the UK are paying for a war in Europe via the provision of weapons resources intelligence(we are equally fed a one sided position on the issues via the mainstream media) , and who knows what else we don’t know, it will never end well with the ultimate capitulation of a foe by force, be that World War II, where yes Germany was defeated but ultimately the political establishment had to find a way of working together again, in the 21st-century it is unlikely that such an outcome will prevail as it’s about global politics not what the majority of people desire...as the use of force of arms never ends well for anyone, especially the civilian populations of Israel Belfast or Northern Ireland as examples....the same applies in Europe today...
The Cuban missile crises was resolved by diplomacy, irrespective that U.S Marines later invaded Cuba "Bay of Pigs"
The Russian military operation could have been halted by diplomacy, 2 yrs ago. Ask Boris.
The West underestimated Russia and here we are moving to a MAD.
why is that so difficult to understand? why is that point of view not being addressed?
even if it turns out to be 100% wrong it should still be considered.
where who what when why, aren't these the basics of journalism?
Is he in a different studio?
Power has shifted Russia-China-Iran has all but ended the Western Hegemonic dominant. You might not realise it just yet.!
It's not that they're super powerful they're just very intelligent. They're not nations of folly. They know what the common ppl don't know or the common ppl choose to be in denial about.
How has life gone in in Gaza?
Daniel Davis is combat vet with a message of peace. He us touring the UK and France now, he woukd be awesome on your show!
It started when annexed parts of Georgia. When nothing happened it emboldened him to do what he has done now
Muddle headed nonsense. Georgia was under US selected criminal
She killed it! I’m really surprised these propagandists allowed it to go on as long as it did.
Can't ever fault what you say James on any subject. You are my 'go to' for whatever is currently on the news. Nice to have my daily fix of common sense.
You what 🤔, 😂😆🤣...
Are you having a laugh
I see that you know your sarcasm very well sir.
@@GorillaTVe if he was being sarcastic, then he definitely fooled me
Amazing show today
Send Boris to negotiate he knows the Russians we know that despite him covering up the Russia report
Boris on orders from Biden stopped peace talks which were going well in Turkey,
Send a Jester? Why not send David Lammy for a change? Contrary to popular belief, the Black man might be just your answer to world peace. Hand over the baton I guarantee you the Black man is not going play any kind of raas to start a w@r it's not in his best interests.
Boris went over to Ukraine to stop them negotiating with russia. At the behest of America. That has now been confirmed by zelensky officials
What Russian report?
What’s the source of the supposed Lenin’s quote at 41:10, lol? Please do not invite “experts” who simply make up stuff as they go.
When ever I see this guy James O'brien, I just don't know why but the word Weasel comes to mind.
Thank you for today....your shows are excellent when you leave the English shores and remember that you are all still European and that we are all part of this blue marble we survive on.
James is a treasure, his intrest and fascination with the callers was self evident. His attention during the calls and he didn't have to. It's lovely to watch (especiallywithSally).
On the point of classism into performing arts - the answer is simple and not just constitutional and societal bias. The real answer is that middle and upper class kids can afford to go into it, try out and for it to fail. Working class kids can’t afford that risk so many don’t try. That’s the privilege of coming from money. You can afford for it to fail, others can’t. It’s the same with starting businesses. When mummy and daddy can cover you if it goes wrong, there’s little risk.
Zalensky actually said today that for the first time in the entire war Ukraine now has enough shells. They have repelled Russia's attempts at Kharkiv with Putin now making statements like he never intended to take Kharkiv anyways
For me it was when Zelensky actually applauded a soldier that served for the 1st Galacian 14th SS Waffen Grenadiers in the Canadian parliament .
Why antagonise and attempt to humiliate and subjugate a powerful nuclear power like Russia?
Hi James, first time listener and I was excited at the prospect of having another independent to follow, and then you fall into step with the MSM narrative regarding Ukraine and Russia. Then you mentioned having Billie on your show, huge red flag.
Geopolitical debate isn’t James’s forte, he should get Mearsheimer on
Mearsheimer doesn't know how to debate. Simply hear what he has to say, mixing facts with fiction to match his theory on 'political realism'.' He's essentially a Vatnik, although he would be the last to admit it. He also happens to be a liar and a very naive liar.
All sides have invested to much to lose and you can't have to top dogs, it will be interesting.
Whatever happens Britain can't do anything about it. The UK will be totally reliant on Europe 🇪🇺 to protect it.
Oh the irony😢
LOL wut? We have nukes
@@jamespaul6315 : the last 2x Tests f those Nukes didn’t go so well , …….. really … NOT WELL !
@@jamespaul6315. Your Empire is dusted. 😂😂😂 pretty much a liability now if anything.
@@amnoahwielwabbit3837 lol we still have enough that work, and france is our allies too. Russia wont dare attack a NATO ally, mark my words
@@jamespaul6315
Pity we don't have any that actually work,😂😂😂
Of course it wasn't just Crimea that Russia annexed in 2014, they also occupied parts of Donetsk and Luhansk.
Is that the same Crimea that Given that Alexi Nevaldy supported the invasion of?
Go back to the media and you will find that your spouting lies
Both of those areas are historical Russian areas which Ukraine had bombed for years before Russia eventually put a stop to.
The DPR s asked Russia to take them in, Russia refused
@mikescythian5729 I mean technically speaking 24% of the world historically belonged to us too, do you think if we were able it would be acceptable to just go and take it back?
Why are we doing so little? Too much Russian influence in our country.
so little.??..our meddling has got a million ukrainians killed..that's not a little...add the totals up from all the other countries where we have got involved and your into the tens of millions...whatever the accusation..i don't think anyone can accuse us of doing "little" as you call it.
Because we’re not the mighty Empire we were 100 years ago!
We cannot defend our own borders so what change would we have against the mighty Russia?
They have the numbers and that is all that is required in a war of attrition!
Ultimately russia is a bigger threat to us than anything that goes on the middle east
The plug for Global in the middle of recipe was soo clean. That’s why you’re on the big bucks, James.
Please, with all due respect, you are low-talking (volume wise). I'm not hard of hearing, and your material is on point.
Leading Britain's Censorship still playing the giant squirrel card
If I watch any left leaning media on YT this always comes on next on the playlist, always. Must get majority of his views like that, it's always James aswell.
Have you ever thought maybe we actually can't do anything. Sanctions on russia have turned into sanctions on us.
There are no sanctions on us. We have full access to global markets. Try to inform yourself before commenting.
Sanctions on Russia are actually biting now. With the disruption to the oil industry the sanctions are being felt
@jakel8627 you miss understand the purpose of the comment.
The "sanctions" on Russia backfired.
instead of Russia collapsing, you have most of eu countries collapsing themselves. Recession in effectively all eu countries and the u.s. , inflation going crazy while Russia has a 3% inflation... all this time...
Becoming a laughingstock and effectively losing control over the world
@@jakel8627But when nations rise against nation, doesn't that affect the global markets? Or is it a hussle when it kicks off?
@@jakel8627the irony 😂
I also pondered what will happen if the U.S. and U.K. won in Iraq, then Libya then Afghanistan.
For the latter, the U.S. had to leave after 20 years.
The US did win in Iraq. War was over within weeks.
Don't forget The Sudan (proper, now that we have a South or West Sudan).
US and UK winning in Iraq destabilized the whole region for two decades and irreversebly destroyed lives of millions of people. So you can imagine what Russia winning in Ukraine would mean for Europe. Same tragedy, but possibly on much bigger scale and much, much closer to home.
Afghanistan women and free thinkers are the real losers from the west leaving.
Biden could have sent as much armament as they needed! He proved that in Israel.
What 'IF' Vlad wins? This is a joke right? Is it April the 1st?
We know Putin wants Ukraine. But has anyone figured out what his Endgame is?
Not to be bullied by the West!
If NATO hadn’t pushed their borders, this wouldn’t have happened.
Do you realise how silly it sounds to refer to Russia as Putin?
Sure did. He want's to restore former Soviet Union. We had that worked out for some 15 years here in Czechia...
If he wanted Ucraine won’t be wise to go in with an army of at least 1 million soldiers rather than 180000, that is a false narrative he wanted to make Ucraine neutral and demilitarize it without to much fighting but Boris make Ucraine believe they can win against Russia which will not happen. Russia will keep the war going until Ukraine collapses, and how Putin says if for that Russia have to demilitarise the NATO that will happen and just look at the military stocks in those countries and you see he is getting there
We underestimate the social hierarchy 💯
This guy is lying. Ukraine was the poorest area of the Soviet collapse.
Where is Shamira?
I disagree with your output on the conflict in Ukraine, and so do the facts of us and nato aggression.
GB concern over Falklands population? Far, far away....... Russian concern over Donbas population? And Cuban Missile Crisis scenario building on the border.... 🤔 For YEARS.....
NATO needs to go in.
@jamespaul6315 you and your kids first or are you all talk and no action, or are you happy for other kids go,by the way the complete British military would fit in Wembley with room for more,
US empire died when Xi and Putin made that hug
lol , take your meds
Frozen Russian assets. £300billion. Go get it....
Money don't fight wars or build weapons. People do. They will need to recruit soldiers and build weapons all this takes time and money don't buy time and sadly Ukraine will need all three.
And it’s “when” Putin wins not if
In general. No subject. I hate talking heads.
Peace
remember none of this started until Ukraine talking about joining NATO.
why would Russia trust NATO?
remember NATO was never supposed to expand the first place.
The wayhns will get free milk😊
I really think the UK needs to upscale its militarisation efforts significantly.
So after an hour of Ukraine contributions NOT ONE PERSON GOT IT RIGHT. Even the lovely Simon who i worked for
Crimea has been Russian for hundreds of years 7 the Crimean wanted to be with Russia
And prior to "Crime-a" Idumea.
All started with the ever reducing buffer zone between Russia and US/EU allies. What happened when Russia did it in Cuba? Well within living memory
Not really. People believe that the USSR just decided it of the blue to put missiles in Cuba but it was in response to Americans putting missiles in Europe. The Americans backed down and the Soviets withdrew their counter-threat.
@@JasperJohnD
The US missiles were already in Turkey. Their removal was kept quiet as part of the deal with Khrushchev and removed after the Soviets bottled out of Cuba.
{:o:O:}
@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 why bottled? You've already accepted that the Soviets were responding to an existing threat - not the other way round.
@@JasperJohnD
*_"why bottled?"_*
Kennedy put ships in the way of the Soviet fleet, and the Soviet fleet stopped dead in the water. Then withdrew in order to avoid causing WW3 and dismantled the missile bases in Cuba. A basic knowledge of actual, world history shows this.
{:o:O:}
You are aware US had put its missiles towards USSR first , and Kennedy hadn't even be informed by his generals of this ?
Already has
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22:11
From' Global'.That tells you all you need to know about this 'station'.James O'brien bought and paid for.
22:1
So what?! Fifty percent of Alaskans have an outside toilet!
Dunkirk.
O dear
James said, “you can’t underestimate the power of a controlled media”. Hahahahaha, get out of that western echo chamber!
I bet you live comfortably in the west though, don't you..
@@mwd331 did you have a point?
@@lynnevenables7193 yeah, people who distrust and complain about the media and governments of the west and prefer the Kremlin line on this matter, whist simultaneously enjoying the rights and freedoms of being in a western country are hypocritical in the extreme.
@@mwd331 you how indoctrinated you sound!
@@lynnevenables7193 I'm going for you being exactly what I describe then.. I'll go back to my indoctrination then. Keep up with the Kremlin line, they have yours and our interests at heart for sure.
I have to say it, once again, but I truly believe it is a very little engkish thing. Snobbery, exceptionalism, arrogance, class and crowning it all ignorance with the deep belief they aren't ignorant.
English.
Christ, 3 minutes in and you have said nothing.
Managed longer, lot of waffle without saying anything and love your voice but some great guests where they could speak.
@@EkuuleusNorthare you replying to your own comment?
@@mwd331 I made a really hard effort. There was one guest really allowed to speak but that was not phone in. Quite a different approach to his friends.
Russia has Putin as its fearless leader - Britain has "pint-sized loser" Ritchie Sunak.
Fearless haha, incompetent in the eyes of average punter.
Half pint.
@@MrWhitmen1981the average punter believes the bs propaganda spewed out by this station.
Or Rashy Sanuck as Brandon calls him.
P.S. I had domestic science lessons. It included not just recipes, but very informative nutritional analysis of foods.
I believe the premise of this conversation is wrong
Doesn't it sicken you to make that difference whilst children are being killed in their own homes, James?
why dont you braaave britts go fight your own wars? starting with braaaave James
So, higher energy prices are not because gas from the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, blown up by the ones who control the valve and the gas flow, is no longer available. The shortfall made up by buying bottled gas, bought in on ships crossing the Atlantic?🤔
Ww3
James, I bought a handcream a couple of weeks ago. It has three harmful chemicals in it that are banned in the E.U. Liz, Warton UK 🇬🇧
You should have voted to remain.
@@raymondo6665 wot would you know.
@@user-ms7ep9zw9y Top Tip: kitchen roll soaked in Remoaner tears makes cheap hand sanitiser.
@@raymondo6665 Love you Ray.
What a weird angle!
You don't have to wonder. It would be disastrous for Europe, the UK and democracy if Russua was ever allowed to win.
Democracy is already dead, you just don’t know it yet
What democracy? You have macron passing laws as he wants and increasing the allowed times he's allowed to be president, Germany banning political movements, governments betraying their own people left and right.. it's already a disaster.
Many of us, wish for a hard reset to this broken system, that has been curropted to the point where it's not different from a dictatorship
You genuinely believe you live in a democracy?
Please! 🤦🏻♂️
@@LittleBanditMicra If you want to live in a truly undemocratic state I suggest you live in Russia, Belarus, North Korea or China.
How is the Island U.K under threat by a Proxy war in Ukraine who is neither a member of NATO and not at risk when Iraq was invaded on a wrong premise.
The bots may spam dislikes and write absolute but Ukraine will prevail
bruh it's already lost. hundreds of thousands propagandized by the west into a meatgrinder only meant to weaken russia and even that part doesn't seem to have worked
so you are a ukranin bot
The current situation is irreversible , Ukraine cannot win
If???
putin is putin never change
It's important to make Russians fear what regular people fear, which is not a typical bungled offensive with extreme loss of lives.
But better to remember the cold war Mad (mutual adjustment deterrent or destruvtion) peace treaty is the choice of the aggressor but if the Russians fear nuclear attack as much as civilised citizens of Europe & U.S, do that's the best form of attack - not being murdered by military blunders & Tory treachery, whatever happens if you think it's bad now, it'll be fifteen times worse during nuclear war, if you survive the strikes ...
*_"the cold war Mad (mutual adjustment deterrent or destruvtion"_*
MAD was Mutually Assured Destruction.
{:o:O:}
Has James moved to a different studio?
Sending an unreal amount of aid and weapons, however no due diligence on where it is going... what's the point? Soldiers need the weapons at the front and they're being horded in Western Ukraine.
The working class no longer making music shows, music is now soulless and mostly the same dross. Daddy’s little darlings are boring and too entitled to be entertaining.
Blame 'Wokeism' We are paying dearly for it today in many ways.!
If he wins, the world will go to war and mankind may as well kiss goodbye to any kind of hopeful future. It's a pathetic indictment of our species and our inability to learn from history and also a tragedy. Our species had it all but we allowed greed, selfishness and violence to take over our spirits and to the ruin of all.
Actually, that's what would happen if he loses.
If he wins, Ukraine loses a bit of territory and NATO has to concede some sensible steps to Russia.
That might matter but it's not existential.
Russia isn't going to take Kharkiv. This is facile analysis
😂😂😂 delusional.
Exactly. Our species didn't learn from our history and tragedy that started in February 2022. Imagine if we can bring back our best days (those before 2022).
You still believe Russia is the biggest threat to humanity?😂😂😂
Ask the rest of the world who they truly believe to be the greatest threat to humanity, and they would tell you its America..
🙄🙄🙄🙄😒😒
There’s a shortage of ammunition .. but I’m sure Ukraine has converted factories to produce haven they 🤷🏻♀️ I don’t get it!
He's already won.
Whether you like Boris Johnson or not (and I don't) he is actually well liked and respected in Ukraine for stepping up in its defence in the early days and encouraging Ukrainians not to capitulate to Russian bullying.
Like a kid on the outskirts of a school fight, shouting 'punch him ,punch him' little coward.
Oh really…This war would not have started if it wasn’t for Boris there would be over 650 thousand more Ukrainians on the planet.
Stop it
Boris is only inerested in 'Boris' .He has no clue about the rest of the world.The EU were responsible for the Ukraine war and it need never have happened.They alone intimidated Putin by offering /encouraging them to join Nato or the EU.
Did that poll include the million plus Ukrainians killed or seriously wounded in NATOs proxy war against Russia?
@@JasperJohnD You obviously haven't a clue what you are talking about. I suggest you leave off taking your information from Russian propaganda channels.
Get real. Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants. Quotation. Forget attribution.
Go vegan, then I'll listen.
Putin has already won. Cry neocon cry. Lol..lol..lol..long live Putin. We love him.
Italy support Ukraine Kiev. In military Italian division. Excellent discussion on Ukrainian situation. Support help 200000 Ukrainian refugees fleeing the war living in England London and Scotland 20000 Ukrainian people living in Scotland.
When Putin wins
What does winning mean?
@@Rosskles: winning means , looking after Russians and those THAT WANT TO BE PART OF RUSSIA, Unlike Western Government’s who want your silence and capitulation !
@@amnoahwielwabbit3837 lololololololol..
The people fighting and dying to prevent Russia taking their land actually ... (and I quote) "WANT TO BE PART OF RUSSIA"
Delusional. Bye bye.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 CRY HARDER
Work in the media is an oxymoron.
Doing too little? Britain has been brilliant and the Ukrainians say so themselves. Boris was the first leader to visit. We've given a stunning amount and pressured countries like Germany into pulling their weight.
Yes, BJ certainly bounded over there... to stop the actor from signing the negotiated peace deal! Did you love being locked down while BJ was partying up, drinking and snorting with his elite buddies?
O’Brian shining bright with his immense ignorance of the whole situation….But then, look at his Nate..Bill Browder😂🤪😭
All this sounds like the long drunkeness, has now become a woke hangover.
NATO needs to send in troops.
You first then, since you’re game! 😏
they have been for two years. Most are dead now
I love Russia .
We should be talking about peace not more arms sales. Putin already won Europe has gained nothing
How exactly is destroying and traumatizing your own nation winning? Europe has lost nothing, a little money maybe, but it is the wealthiest continent on the planet, so they can afford it. For Ukraine and Russia however, this war is a total catastrophy.
What are you, the Hindustan Times?😅
@@dh1380why am I Hindu because I said the word peace?
@@dh1380but don't forget the Hindustan times has an audience of 1,4billion while Europe is 450 million?
Putin has only done terrible damage to Russia by invading Ukraine whereas Europe and the US have gained a couple of new NATO member states and cleared out lots of their aging military equipment.
We dont have to waste anymore money on Ukraines war.
...world affairs not your strongpoint are they....?
Like America 'wasted' money helping us fight the Nazis?
@@Rosskles Like America armed actual neo-Nazis to create another energy war 5000m away from their shores simultaneously weakening the 3rd largest threat to their economic superiority
@@stephenblanchard8973 I know we're wasting billions on a war that could never be won by Ukraine.
@@stephenblanchard8973Actually, she's spot on.