Real Talk: Is Kevin Durant the Most Underappreciated Player In Recent Memory? | Devin Booker and JJ
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- čas přidán 13. 03. 2024
- In this clip, Devin Booker talks about his Phoenix Suns teammate Kevin Durant and JJ goes on a rant about appreciating his greatness.
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KD doesn’t get the credit he deserves for how good he was coming off that Achilles injury. Media was talking about how he’d be a spot up shooter and he returned playing elite ball.
max kellerman^
Thats true
I agree it’s almost like he was never hurt that’s how good he playing
@@Maxjuliannna fr sometime I gotta remind myself he tore his Achilles
Hes an easy target for insecure people. Period. People who are insecure lash out at others to make themselves feel better. Nothing more nothing less trust me.
Like an artist, real art can be appreciated only past its time. KD is an artist and not many can see it yet
Nah I think people appreciate him now, just don’t respect him as much since he joined a 73-9 team after losing 3-1 against them
Facts
Basketball fans get it. NBA fans don’t.
Picasso, Warhol, Michaelangelo? Picasso would brag about how valuable his art was. Warhol ate a cheeseburger. Sistine Chapel. A banana taped to a wall is art. What do you know about art? It's subjective.
Saying KD is a Jim Croce after KD has almost 2 decades of hits.
Real deal. Get past the hate, dudes greatness can’t go unappreciated. When it’s all said & done he’s going to go down as one of the greats. Real ones know 💯💯💯
KD is my favorite player.
but Lebron is the best
- Book, probably
"Book and KD fked with each other."
- JJ Redick, 2024
"Book and KD fd with each other."
- JJ Redick, 2024.
Since Seattle
Kevin is criticized for making a decision for HIS life. I just wish Kevin didn’t respond whether it be trolling or on a burner account. Let it rest, KD. YOU’RE GREAT!
Why can’t he respond?
@@BTGWILL they’re committed to criticizing his “decision” to play for GS so, just let ‘em talk. You can’t stop people from “talking.”
JJ’s absolutely correct. Real ones know
Nobody questions KDs greatness, real ones only complain there aren't enough flowers.
KD is the definition of a player having the power to say I have the right to go anywhere. The owners don't want that kind of player freedom. They want the players to be treated like they are in the zoo or circus where they just stay put benefiting one city for years. While the player understands there are other owners too who can benefit their city or states where they can go to.
Certain owners don't take advantage to build around that star to keep him around for years. And a player like Durant who is lost into the art of the game is more interested in finding the best quality of the game that brings out his best form.
Then the owners will send out the old heads like Shaq or Chuck or Stephen A Smith who will say back in the days it was against a code for star players to team up. Those in the media regardless of what they accomplished in the past don't represent the current generation but work for the owners. Where the owners use the media networks to send out messages to keep players in check and send out messages, they want the fans to hear from their perspectives.
Honestly it has long been confirmed from where these old heads stand, they are always going after current players to keep them in check. They use all type of forms to go after them to diminish their career once the players don't follow in line and this is the power play of ownership vs star players knowing their own value.
It used to be only certain media passes anything related to player from their own perspective. Now with the number of media and social networks players have their own outlets to control their own stories. The fact KD uses the social networks to air out his points of view and chooses to go where we wants is the biggest threat to the old ways of doing things.
So that's why you see the old heads every week on TNT or ESPN go after Durant to try to paint the picture he is not leader, a follower, bus rider in order to have his views diminished. They don't want other stars doing what he does so they are setting an example that if you go against the original ways and ignore our media we will come after you are speaking anything about that has nothing to do with your game. There is no better example of it than TNT and ESPN zooming on KD and his hair just to leave that image in the eyes of the fans when they hear about him after calling him a follow in same sentence.
Most viewers have already figured out the plants and who they represent and not the players but the league and the owners and sponsors. So, when those who used to play with this player speak up and represent it is more enjoyable to consume. Their viewers are diminishing, and they are turning into alternatives but when you see or hear same plants its ignored quickly.
Keep it up JJ you are the one who will be remembered, and we stand along eventually while this old-world monkey disappears from repeating same words every week.
KD is one of the greatest players of all time and we should appreciate him. Also, he should't have joined a team that lost in Game 7 in the NBA finals and won a championship the year before. Those two opinions aren't mutually exclusive.
Dude would never have a championship if he didnt go to the warriors because he can't lead a team
Remember Draymond calling him Champ? Or Westbrook calling him a Cupcake?
@@brandonlill1261 westbrook who? The guy who played with Lebron harden Beal kawhi pg Melo and Anthony Davis and still managed to come up ringless again? Hmmm….
I literally just wrote the same thing lol.. I agree wholeheartedly.. Just because you appreciate a player, that doesn't mean you have to be a fan of every single move they make.
He really is. Most talented player i have ever seen. He is better player all time than curry in my book. If KD was drafted by the warriors with klay and draymond i honestly think he would have achieved the same or more then steph
KD and Draymond have wayyy too different of personalities for them to be teammates for a long time
Sound crazy
Talent is one thing. Being a leader and a good teammate is another. KD gets all the credit in the world for his talent. Yes he is just as talented as Curry, maybe even more.
But Curry is a far better leader and managing to keep a team together, engaged and happy for years is at least in part due to him being the person he is. Durant is not that guy. So no, KD could not have done what Curry has done with the Warriors, and that includes recruiting KD to become a part of something greater.
Why hasn't he won anything without Steph then
@@Fr0gSplashhso you agree Kd is a better player . Lol
Kd is right where he’s supposed to be. He went to a 73- 9 team. And what to be called the goat or be looked at as just as good as Lebron. He did it to himself.
The media seemed to have forgotten JJ how they were pointing their fingers at KD saying he was faking his injury. For the value of entertainment, the league, media and doctors approved him saying he was good to play risking his career.
They have not once spoken about him coming back from injury and where really quiet when he came back stronger being a toe line away from beating the eventually champs putting up the greatest game in elimination history. That same summer he carried his country on his back against all odds bring home a gold medal.
Remember this is just a year after learning to walk away. They were really quiet like mice nowhere to be seen or heard but next year when he has one bad series against the Celtics that held, grabbed and fouled him throughout the series. They came out right after the series ended firing shots from left and right. They were really quiet when he was shining the brightest but were really loud once he became anything less.
They don't want to mention how he has been consistently injured after they almost ruined his career. Now he is playing his best finally looking more healed up guarding the best player every night while putting up career highs. The biggest tragic in history of sports media and we will look back and dismiss why we even watch certain networks and analyst soon because of how they disrespected the purest hooper to ever touch the floor.
beautifully put… very strange how his return from a serious injury like that is so unprecedented but yet not talked about. If it was lebron or steph i know it’ll be on espn every day
KD changed the game more than anyone. More than bron and Steph. 7 footers who could shoot never actually panned out like he did. Now you see them every where. I mean look at Wemby
Wemby? He aint done nothing yet
@@lebronjamesharden3958you slow he not sayin hes accomplished but he is a 7 footer with handles like a guard and can score at will..can you read? Lol he doesnt have to have rings or trophies to play like someone
@@trvpyvngin nope you shouldn't get praise while playing in one of the worst teams, that's just common sense kiddo
Because it's all a part of his story.. We can be critical of someone's decision and still appreciate their greatness.. They are not mutually exclusive.
I don't think that a future nba top 5 all-time scoring leader and surely top 15/borderline top 10 all-time player would need any kind of endorsement. You obviously need to love your craft and be hyper professional to be able to achieve all that, besides being insanely talented
Man I’m glad I watched this. D-Book is a cool dude!
He has played his best basketball for the last 2-3 years since the Achilles injury. Having an ALL NBA SZN & ALL Defense year He Became more efficient, defending at a TIME level and he dont get any credit. Like injuries didn't derail the Nets and now the suns too but he still is the most available player even though he is older than Book and Beal Lmao...
KD is the mfing dude! I'm always gonna be a fan. I was happy when he came to the Bay. I'm hoping they can get a chip in Phoenix so bad.
KD🔥
Two time champion two time mvp will finish with 35k points top ten all time
I think alot of what it is, is that he's not been loyal to any team he's been on. He's one of the legends of this game but its his team loyalty which I think has put people out. Of course, even someone loyal to a team gets grief like Dame. So who knows in the this hellscape anymore? lol
Yea, i loved kd in okc. In alternative universe they have 7 rings with harden and westbrook. After he went to the biggest rival for cherrypick rings it was over, sadly.
Nobody has been loyal in this era except the guys in perfect situations. Okc was not loyal to Seattle or harden. Brooklyn was not loyal to kyrie.
@@mateusznikicik8770biggest rival? Gs was never okcs rival. Spurs clippers mavs and grizzlies were the biggest rivals to okc and kds biggest rival is lebron.
Has he been any less loyal to his team than Lebron? My issue is that KD gets hate, but Lebron always gets a pass for being just as weak
People only hate KD bc he beat Lebron at his own game
@@nydibsI think people consider brons case different cuz he’s won a ring with each team he’s gone to
@JJREDICK That table would be alot to handle man.😂
the whole league under appreciated the average fan of today is like the rare crashout haters of the kobe era
Book said it the best "The real ones know, Everything else is clickbait"
Cause they know most of these people are casuals who like drama shi
Thank you JJ
Real talk Dbook “real ones know”
I just made a little CZcams short about this a few days ago reading my mind lol
Let's not forget kd has made his own narratives. No one can just diminish someone's greatness. He's great when not much is on the line but he's a toothpick in the playoffs and flimsy. I'm a basketball player through and through. Kd can make tough shots that look tough but when things get tough no one considers having kd in top 5. If you say when he was on the warriors? Yeah he got mvp of the finals his goal he set out for. I mean watch the games every fast break kd through the middle for easy dunks because klay and steph were on the wings setting up for three and just gave kd the 2s and he took advantage of being on one of the greatest teams ever. Idk he's good he's a bit of a freak of height and talent. It's the fact that his teams he's been on cant win in the playoffs. A good basketball player isn't just pure stature and making difficult shots against buddy buddy regular season basketball. If you make easy shots for your teammates take easy shots for yourself play basketball unselfishly to win. That's the only stat that matters up on the score board but if you want a player checking the box score how many points they had in a loss and is happy with what they did kd is your boy. Then act angry at everyone else, look at my greatness best to ever do it. Okay no one agrees that's why this is the conversation
He has had great moments and failures in the playoffs like every single player who played. JJ point regardless just enjoy him. His not gonna be in the league much longer. I wouldn’t be surprised if he pulled a Tim Duncan and just left without a proper farewell tour
He is one of the best performers in the playoffs when you look at his actual production. Numbers dont lie. Top 5 scorer in elimination games and #7 all time playoff scoring. Rarely misses the playoffs.
You are pushing a false narrative. Even last year he was a top scorer in the playoffs.
Kd a killer man, real one know he was and is the man still & I ain’t even a kd fan, but I do appreciate it game a lot because how easy it is for him I think that what so special about him the game come to him so easy
He really isn’t, everyone I know says he’s the best scorer and at the least top 15 all time. He just gets criticized because of his own doing
Fr! You seem like the only person w some sense in this comment section
@@gabrielperez82204oh shush
What has he done to still get the criticism he gets?
lol top 15? 😂😂😂 that’s the problem .. the man is easily top 10.. he has been having gette seasons than lebron and curry the past years yet they stiii bring hon down to bring curry and lebron up .. IF NO KD .. curry legacy is trash known for losing 73-9 season blowing 3-1 lead .. like this year he should be first tram all team
when i look at individual talent he def Top 10.
He’s absolutely praised and appreciated appropriately. He maybe gets a lot of criticism, but most of the time that’s due to his own actions. I don’t think anyone ever doubts the level of KD’s play, skill and talent wise he’s an all time great.
Yes, he definitely is underappreciated. What he has done at his age this year and he barely gets talked about, unless it's something negative.
“Due to his own actions”??? Wtf r u tb😂
ppl were literally saying KD was washed up and not a Top 5 player and his defense is underrated.
@@rah6229he just mean that kd don't do and say what the fans want. He dont put on an act for them
@@rah6229 exactly what I said, his own actions. Like he has 2 cheap rings because he went to GS, so his legacy is affected by that. It doesn’t change the type of talent he is, but it does hurt his argument vs other greats
The problem with KDs perception is that he’s a regular person imprisoned in the superstar body with superstar skillset.
Born to be great, but does not really want it.
😂😂😂😂 facts
Injuries have been more of an issue to his career but you might be right. If he had more of a Kobe mentality I don't think it would even be close
Yes
Shooting efficiency is out of this world
JJ has literally said that KD isn't top 10 all time but steph is...but now wants to act like he's not part of the problem
Career wise he might be right.
KD' career was riddled with injuries to him and his team that cost him many awards, stats, and even championships.
Talent wise he's amongst those top 10 players.
@@Christopher._M i get what you're saying but that's not what JJ was saying...he didn't talk about top 10 "careers" of all time, just top 10 players🤔 so yeah for someone who consistently criticizes other reporters' inconsistency he isn't very consistent himself
no he isnt.
Whatever you say about it, you can say it about anyone else in recent memory. The reason we dont talk more about it is because everyone in media wants to count rings and compare players instead of enjoying and apreciating them for who they are. KD is a walking chance for a shot at the championship, just walking into the building, and the best part is he proves it and as a fan that's all I want from him. It was such a joy to watch the Nets vs Bucks series, and a reminder of who he has been.
People will look back and say "omg, we got complacent with someone so great for so long as Lebron. We wanted to talk so much about who he isnt, his rings and how he compares to MJ, and didnt get to enjoy enough what he was doing in the moment", and will have one of those for KD, Curry, Dame, Russ, Harden... everyone.
At some point this players wont be there anymore, Kobe, Duncan, Dirk, Garnett, Wade... And if you feel like you didnt watch those guys enough, and you didnt enjoy their moments, it's your fault. I dont care who they are playing, but if KD put up 50 points im celebrating it, if Lebron gives us another playoff miracle run im enmarking it next to the other dozen, as long as Curry is shooting I'll be watching, if Harden moves to his 5th team in a month I'll be disapointed while watching him be the best passer or scorer in the league at will... Picking against this guys is dumb and you will miss them, so dont.
stay delusional
Sports fandom is a strange thing. Jamal Murray said recently he wants to be the GOAT. And the reaction was largely that he has the correct mindset. When KD, far better player than Jamal, said he wanted to be the GOAT, he was clowned for it.
Jamal Murray ain’t even the best player on his team lol
There’s a difference between wanting to be the goat and saying you should be in the goat discussion. KD has been in the league for 17 years and we’ve seen what he has and hasn’t done in the league compared to Jamal who’s only played for 7 seasons and just entering his prime. That’s why KD got clowned. Because we’ve seen what he’s failed to accomplish over the years without a 73-9 team
the better you are , the more haters you will have. his team moves didnt help either. but look at bron, the only one really in the goat convo and he is getting the most hate by far for saying he is the goat.
@@CamUchiha in KD's first 7 years, he won 4 scoring titles, an MVP, took a team to the finals and was first team all nba 4 times (I think). Jamal is really good. Still nowhere close
Jj is right he's the second best player of his generation he's up there with steph fr
lol
He’s way better than steph. Kd Lebron and kawhi are the best of the era.
nobody in the world said he isn't, ppl said he doesn't deserve to be in the GOAT convo... this is all bs clickbait
@@7jcjg Barkley called him a bus rider as a two time finals MVP lol
When MJ was asked “Kobe or Lebron?” He said Kevin Durant. Obviously a joke cus KD wasnt an option but its a way of saying he’s at the table as well and after that theres nothing a hater can say imo 🤷♂️
It's like Gil said...in the court of public opinion; KD going to GSW sacrificed his own legacy (going to the "enemy" to win after losing to them) to solidify Steph, Klay & Dramond's legacies. Bron & the Cavs had their number before KD got there.
I think all of them solidify their legacies joining together and winning 2 chips. Steph, Klay and Dray just upped KD by winning in 22 without him. If KD didn't get that 2 chips he will be talked as Tmac, Melo and other greats that don't have a ring. Everyone acknowledge that he is a great talent he just need to win 1-2 more chips.
The problem is not that these guys are not "appreciated", it's that people force them into conversations that they don't belong in. As always, when we have to rank a player, someone in the top 10 to 20 must be moved out. That means we have to scrutinise every single detail of their career. The problem with the fans of these guys is that they get emotional when they are losing the debate and just say, "let's just appreciate greatness".
You can make an argument of him being top 20, but anything higher than that needs you to enter into the realm of fantasies and what ifs.There is no objective argument for him being top 10 though.
Absolutely false. Kd is at the same table as Kobe and Lebron and you can easily argue him over both.
Nope. 0 rings as the bus driver means hes not even at Dirks level.
@@brendanbloom3366 how?
@@dpakj989 lmao. Anybody who uses bus rider in basketball discourse is just a sheep. Dirk is great. Kd is better. Rings are a team accomplishment. Kobe never gets traded from charlotte and Lebron never leaves Cleveland and okc never trades harden than your dumbass narrative completely shifts.
@@sskmanentsa5326 kd and Kobe scoring wise is very debatable. Kd scores easier with his height and release point and kd might just be a better pure shooter. Kds length also gives him an advantage closer to the rim. Kd is a better rebounder than kobe. Kd is more unselfish than kobe. I understand Kobe being selfish without shaq but not with shaq. Kd is a better shot blocker and rim protector than kobe and a better post defender than kobe. Kd and Kobe are basically tied as players.
No one doubts KD’s skill because he’s clearly one of the best players of all-time. However, his move to GS is also the weakest move of all-time for a player of his caliber. He took the easiest route to getting a ring. It’s like finishing a game on easy mode, while others finished it on hard mode even tho he may be a better player than the guys who did it on hard mode. You can’t sit on the same table claiming you finished it the same way. It’s like the guy who inherited a million claiming they earned it the same way as the guy who had to work from flipping burgers.
His move was no weaker than Lebron colluding and forming superteam. He just happened to beat Lebron at his own game
@@nydibsLebron didn’t join a 73-9 team that made it to the finals. Which he almost beat. Any true baller even in street ball would say “run it back”, not “yo let me join your team next round”.
That you Steven A. 🤨 ??
@@MrFraiche - Lebron also never joined a team by himself, he colluded, had his own sports agency to bring in reinforcements
He joined an already Finals MVP in DWade AND brought in Bosh, and other reinforcements. He then went to Cleveland to join Kyrie and brought in KLove
He went to LA and brought in AD. Lebron is just as weak as KD
Tell me who finished it on hard mode.
KD saved the Warriors after their EPIC MELTDOWN IN THE NBA FINALS! THE ONLY ONE OF ITS KIND. Everyone always says the regular season doesn’t matter except for this cuz it’s convenient.
KD is appreciated. I think one of the guys on the polarizing or unlikable side might be the most underappreciated Sheed, Draymond, Karl, AI, Ja, Pip come to mind.
I would say AI gets more appreciation than anyone else you listed
@@shiningwizard202he’s finally staring to get some recognition the last couple years
@@OakleytheRottie yeah I guess you’re right, it’s sorta recent. I always had love for AI but most fans hold the no championship thing against him despite his success and cultural impact.
@@shiningwizard202he’s an ICON and somewhat forgotten for a long time unfortunately
The stars of the game truly aren't really appreciated now until their careers are over and all we're left with are their statistical accomplishments and can observe how absurd and damned good their are. Since the season is so long, we can nitpick guys on a game-by-game basis and a lot of bs gets thrown into things for storylines and segments, which are all entertaiment-driven.
KD saved the warriors legacy..
Real talk!
more like warriors saved KD's legacy. let's erase the GS-KD years from history, what do we have? GS has 2 trophies, Curry has 2 MVPS, 1 FMVP. What does KD have? 0 trophies, 0 FMVPs...
@@jegca bro was already a league MVP with multiple scoring titles, tf are you on 😂😂😂😂😂
oh i see, so if Curry and GS never won a single title, then it'd be ok right? then why would KD be 'saving their legacy' .. you literally contradict yourself.@@shiningwizard202
true, cavs woulda owned the warriors for years
😂 it’s the other way around, the Warriors won championships before and after KD as well as posting the greatest regular season record of all time before he even got there.
What has KD done since leaving Golden State? 😂
His cupcake 🧁 move supplanted his perceived greatness. Being the previous mvp and joining the current mvp had never happened until Kevin. Not only that but he was joining a team that was already arguably the greatest of all time. Of course that capped his own greatness.
Not here to defend Lebron at all, but there’s definitely a difference between what he and Durant did. Lebron went to a great team, Durant went to possibly the best team of all time (at least in terms of wins). The Warriors could’ve had Durant riding the bench the entire year and still won a ring. You could argue he was still the best player on the team, but they won a championship before he got there and the won another after he left. Durant was irrelevant to his team’s success. Giannis’s or Jokic’s one ring (so far) is worth twice both of Durant’s put together.
The hear were not great, in fact I think they missed the playoffs the year before
Just proved reddicks point. Good job.
@@brendanbloom3366dude idk why u and reddick can’t understand why the conversation about kd is the way it is, everyone knows he’s a great player and appreciate how good he is, but the team changing decisions he made and quotes he’s said have made him a joke point blank period. Dude could play for 10 more years with the suns and the narrative would be the exact same when the going got tough he went to the easiest team to win and that’s the only place hes won at. We just don’t feel bad for the multi millionaire who made his own choices and is now facing the backlash from said actions I have no idea why you do
@@Widhcdkajdbkdp nobody said anything about feeling bad for him. Which player in this era didn’t leave when it got tough and go to the easiest team to win. Name one please. What he does in the offseason don’t matter. You judge a player by what he does on the court and what he’s done on the court is been the best player on the floor the majority of the time.
So the 2 that KD won hurts his legacy, but the 2 that KD helped Curry get boosts Curry legacy??? Really??
For sure. Top 10 when al said and done!
Top 10 scoring not player
Already top 10 scorer. Already top 12 player@@Maxjuliann
@@whoisskywalker yea I got him around 12 too but he needs to win another ring to crack top 10
Nah, yall put too much into rings like its a individual thing. everything has to go right to win it all. Top 5 in scoring and he will be top 10 ever. @@Maxjuliann
@@MaxjuliannStill wouldn’t be top 10 even if he wins another ring because who would you place him ahead of?
People forget KD was the best player in the 2019 playoffs prior to getting injured.
Under appreciated only by haters and fanboys of there players 😂😂
Underappreciated ? Everybody out there is saying he's top 20 all time. He won an MVP award. That could be overappreciated honestly.
Talent is one thing. Being a leader and a good teammate is another. KD gets all the credit in the world for his talent. He is just as talented as Curry, maybe even more. Only LeBron stands above as far as raw talent is concerned.
It's about who he is as a leader and a teammate. Jokic is gonna jump him all time because look, it's clear as day Jokic makes everyone around him better, same as Curry. There's more to organized basketball than being a bucket. Every one of his stops, including accepting to play for GS, is proof that he doesn't have what it takes on the attitude side of things to belong in the GOAT conversation and he knows it.
Him going to Golden State after losing to them in devastating fashion ruined his legacy
KD does get credit though? He's often said to be one of, if not, the best offensive player of all time. People just don't respect him as an all time great because of his average defense, his durability issues, and the elephant in the room- the fact he hasnt won a ring as the clear leader of a team. The warriors won before him and won after him, that truly hurts his ring credibility. So yea, is he a top 50 player of all time? For sure, top 25? Eh, I dont know about that.
Average defense? You already exposed yourself. Clear leader. MJ wasn’t even the clear leader. He was a co leader with Pippen.
His defense is better than average. It's almost elite over the course of his career
@@jacobbarela6153 That's just not true lmao. Sure when he wants to turn it on, he can guard well but he's never been sustainably elite on defense
@Adam-qf2rq he was good in OKC, elite in Golden State, good in Brooklyn, and serviceable in Pheonix so far. Thats better than average to me.
@@Adam-qf2rqhe finished 9th in dpoy in 2017 What are you on? He Also lead the dpoy race in 2017 before he was injured so how isnt he elite on defense?
My favorite player. KD🐐
KD is undeniably a great player. I feel like he wouldnt get as much hate if he wasnt responding to randoms on Twitter, bcuz it shows u do care about it and it gets to you. I dont think anyone can blame players for leaving when the team/gm doesnt try to get u help. Dame/portland, Lebron/cavs first stint. But there's something that just feels wrong about a player as great as KD (arguably top 15 all time?) joining a team that went 73-9 the previous season. It'd b like if Jordan joined the Celtics or Detroit the year after the got beat in the playoffs. Would ppl still think of him as the Goat if that happened?
This!
KD is an all time great, most of the hate for him was his decision to join the 73 win warriors after losing to them. also still hasn't won outside of GS.
Two things can be true at once. Kevin Durant is one of the best players of all time. We can also still criticize his decision and say it was a weak move.
Kd gets a lot of talk but he brings some of it on himself. If were talking under appreciated kawhi comes to mind for me. He gets talked about less than kd and its usually criticism and both are 2 time finals mvps that dont get talked about like they are.
How does he bring it on himself?
Kd is the goat
The more you appreciate KD's greatness and ability on the court the worse it looks for him to join a 73-9 team.
Precisssely. 🐍
73 - 9 and then lost the finals...that's y they went for him..and created space for him .becoz he was a max player by then and it takes a lot to accommodate a guy like that..
@@laposhlounge-mz5ud We are all aware they lost the finals. Most people aren't mad at the Warriors for recruiting KD. But a Top 10 all time player joining an arguably Top 5 all time team is always going to bother people and rightfully so.
KD isn't the most under appreciated player in recent memory, Devin Booker is.
KD is getting exactly the credit he deserves. Being a one dimensional player (scorer), he actually gets more than he should.
Oof, casual alert 😂
There was a time KD was everyone's favorite player, then he joined the team he choked a lead to and led to the least interesting regular seasons of all-time as a result. We all appreciate and respect his insane talent, but that move will always be clowned.
No. Durant was like the single most appreciate player of the 2010's. I think people in 2024 are just forgetting that now. He is great, though.
His stats were amazing, but he wasn't the best defender, and defense is generally underrated as a contributing factor to winning. Defenders in general are going to be the most underappreciated players. Jrue Holiday is someone slept on -- Bucks got worse when he left and Celtics got better. CP3 is slept on. David Robinson is slept on. Scottie Pippen. A lot of people have been sleeping on Kareem lately. Gary Payton. Jason Kidd.
Old players eventually get forgotten and slept on as well. Artis Gilmore won the ABA MVP as a damned rookie, and had a season where he averaged 18.3 RPG.
KD is arguably the most effiecent and effortless scorer in the entire NBA history, we're talking about an 6'11 guy that quite literally needs to be double teamed at will. But is he greater than jokic? idk for now probably but by the time joker retires it might not be even close...
Kd is misunderstood by fans and therefore unliked by casuals. Real hoopers and the other nba players love kds game.
What happened to Kevin Durant was that he stopped trying to be the man on his team. Like that playoffs run he had that was one shot away from the finals we will never see that Kevin again. That Kevin is what would had made him the goat.
So where does he rank in the top 20?
MJ, Lebron, Kareem, Magic, Russell, Kobe, Shaq, Bird, Wilt, Duncan (Top 10). When does KD's name come up when you have names like Curry, Oscar, Hakeem? I cant put him ahead of them. To me it becomes a debate with KG, Dirk, Malone, Barkley, Dr J.
I bet when you ask most fans or players, they'd put KD in a very very elite group so not sure he's underappreciated.
I’ll never understand why people harp on kd for joining gs. I’ve always saw it as jealousy
I think a lot of players think oh I could’ve fit on that team but the truth is KD’s game was perfect for that system and the job was to beat Bron. No other player on the planet was capable of going back & forth w that version of bron except KD and 21 Kawhi
You didn’t see anything wrong with a top 3 player joining a 73-9 team with a reigning 2x MVP that he lost a 3-1 lead to the year prior?
@@CamUchihano not if you wanted to be in the best place to win
@@CamUchihaonly person who had a legitimate problem with that move was Russ and they’ve squashed it. Get over it bruh
@CamUchiha nope and the rest of haters shouldn't neither. Especially when majority of ppl are hypocritical. Majority yall wouldn't complain about KD going to the spurs that year( being they beat him the year before gs did) being he would made the spurs unbeatable with a healthy khawhi and LA so I that's why I don't wanna hear from u haters
You can’t complain about KD joining GS while giving pass to Lebron for colluding and forming superteams
Either hate them both or move on. KD just beat Lebron at his own game
That is not the same. Lebron went to a 5 seed, a lottery team, and a lottery team. KD joined a champion.
@@tylerholt6828 - again, Lebron only went to those teams knowing that he would be bringing in other top 10-20 players at the time
He didnt just join a lottery team, he colluded and never joined any team by himself
@@nydibs Lay off the drugs. These scenarios are not even remotely similar. Did Lebron join Boston or San Antonio?
JJ getting worse and worse at interrupting 🤦♂️ every time there's enough silence and space to make the interviewee start meaningfully opening up JJ barges back in
"the real ones know"
Kd that superstar you don’t wanna be‼️
No doubt that on the court KD is one of the best basketball players in history.. The history of basketball is not just about stats, there are also emotions and a story. I am one of those who thinks that a player with such class on the floor could have left OKC as a high class player. I also think that his departure from OKC broke something in his career, in his evolution and his relationship with people (he talked about it in another podcast)... At the end of his career, like former players he will not be judged as a whole and not just as a player
Did yall even watch KD 9years in okc ??? Most of all this fans just erase KD 9 years of greatness in okc . Yall bugging i swear . Everyone dont have the luxury of winning chip with the team that drafted you if the front office is not willing to win . Okc let jharden go . Kd said recently in one interview that he hope they dont make the same mistake with shai, chet and willms guy . Yall tripping with all this kd takes lol if anything injury slowed KD greatness down . Before he retires i believe he will be top 5 in scoring .
KD did it to himself when he joined Goldenstate. He saved their legacy and sacrificed his own image. You do not join the team that beat you when you are a top 2 player in the world. However, in saying all that, KD is still top 15 all time imo
KD kinda turned the attack dogs on him when he got busted for his burner accounts...
Kd great player but facts are that his name will ALWAYS be associated with leaving for the warriors
He is the unicorn lol hes a 7 foot gaurd lol
If you are not a fan of Kobe, Duncan, Magic Giannis or Jokic you are in no position to talk about KD joining a Superteam 😂😂
I dont hate nobody and I still mad that he went to gsw
Major cap Chris Bosh he’s never talked about
If every player in nba history was lined up for a pickup game and 2 guys were picking their 5, KD is getting picked. You might not agree that he’s top 10 all time which is fair but he’s getting picked.
Imagine if it was lebron who's playing the way kd is playing now the media would go crazy!
Overappreciated. Some people have him ahead of curry but he constantly has championship rosters and doesn’t use his talent advantage to tip the scales in his favor
He is an MVP, a HOFer, and a consensus top 15 player all time. Please stop with this narrative.
To some sure, there’s a large amount of people who really overlook how good KD is nowadays though since he went to GS.
@@marcusbrown4933 If a lot of people are arguing that a guy is one of the best 15 players of all time, he's not underappreciated.
@@thetramp123 That doesn’t refute my point. It still stands that there are a large amount of people who still hate KD.
Top 15? Yep, underappreciated by the majority of nba fans
I've had season tickets to the clippers 10 rows back facing the clippers bench for a long time. I've seen Kevin Durant play when he was with the thunder, A LOT.
Anyway, I saw him do this twice...
Standing above the top of the key at the three-point line caught a high pass one-handed and in the air and basically volleyballed the ball in for three points without touching the ground. Basically a 3 point alley oop.
I've seen all the greats, and I've never seen anything like that. Twice.
I saw him do this twice. And I knew we were done.
A very goaty player
He did that SuperSonics summer league buzzer beater catching it in the air and releasing it before coming down.
@@brendanbloom3366 That's on another planet.
let's just say that if he stayed at OKC and still never made it to the finals let alone win the trophy, we wouldn't be underappreciating him.. you all know this is true....
JJ don't do this.Everybody judged by legacy things.It's natural.Other great players who couldn't win a ring judged by they are not winner.Everybody knows KD is a great player.But there should be no privilege here.When u are great player expectation is different and i don't think KD met the expectation.
Players are still not understanding. It wasn’t about leaving the Thunder it was about JOINING THE 73-9 WARRIORS that beat you in the playoffs
They are understanding. Emotional fans are the ones not understanding.
It’s funny Book saiid what matters is respect from peers and those that came before u…and that’s exactly what KD doesn’t get 😂
No he's appropriately appreciated he's a really good player who's not an alpha and not a leader stop trying to sneak him into the goat discussion he's nowhere close
Tim Duncan is the most underappreciated player in recent memory
Only has rings off a 73-9 team. Should have carved his own legacy he’s too talented for that
Lefan boys blame KD for two finals loses
Most under appreciated player in recent history is Manu…. I said it 🤷🏻♂️
KD is not underappreciated.. i agree with everyone that he is an all time great but the hate comes from that GSW switch.. the switch was too ugly and after that how he followed with the nets and now the suns just put things into perspective. What I feel he should’ve done is he should have stayed in OKC for a year more or something. Or maybe not leave the nets like how he did. He is a assassin when it comes to pure basketball but what we are watching isn’t just basketball right.. its much more!
Yeah he should have stayed in Brooklyn to play with dinwiddie and Simmons who never plays. FOH.
@@brendanbloom3366 well i do feel of he had stayed nets could have worked something else out…
@@brendanbloom3366 all im saying is ultimately how much ever good he is, the decisions he made will forver tarnish his career for the reason he couldn’t carry a team!
@@miwangtobgyal5708 couldn’t carry a team? That just dumb media narrative talk. Did you not watch what he did vs the bucks? Do you realize the 22 nets team lost 11 straight and 17 of 20 and dropped from 2nd seed to 7h when kd got hurt? Boston literally had to triple him every possession. Okc from 2011 to 2016 were in at least the wcf every year the team was healthy. Okc got PG Grant and Schroeder after kd left and couldn’t even win a playoff series.
the offense gotta through KD
No he isn't. There's cp3, George Mikan (isn't recent memory but still), kg, Alex English, Jerry west
No, everyone knows Durant is a great basketball player. Of the Top-15 players of all-time, KD effectiveness as a leader is questionable, as a culture setter for championship basketball -- He hasn't displayed that ability. It's not "bullshit discourse. We know KD is a bucket, we know he can fit into an already established championship team (Golden State) -- as one of the best 15 players of all-time, you're going to be held to a higher standard. Stats isn't as important, it's a team game -- winning comes before everything.
Nice bs discourse. Just proved his point.
If he wins in Phoenix then this narrative is b.s KD's main enemy has been injuries
@@jeanpayano1506thats the thing tho. IF. and he wont. at least not this year. and after that his chances get lower each year.
Did yall even watch KD 9years in okc ??? Most of all this fans just erase KD 9 years of greatness in okc . Yall bugging i swear . Everyone dont have the luxury of winning chip with the team that drafted you if the front office is not willing to win . Okc let jharden go . Kd said recently in one interview that he hope they dont make the same mistake with shai, chet and willms guy . Yall tripping with all this kd takes lol if anything injury slowed KD greatness down . Before he retires i believe he will be top 5 in scoring .
@@adeadele-nz6xt The entire OKC regime, ppl talked about Russ being the 'alpha', "KD need to get away from Russ, KD needs to tell Russ to stop shooting and pass him the ball more" -- Do you think LeBron, MJ, Bird, Magic etc would allow Russ to be the alpha? The criticism KD got in Brooklyn was what? not taking control of the situation with Kyrie, instead of being team first -- he was Kyrie first. All of this is leadership or lack thereof.