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- Spring toggles are commonly available in most countries and can be used for fixing medium weight items to hollow plasterboard walls. Here we demonstrate how to use spring toggles as well as the disadvantages of using them. Brought to you by www.ultimatehan...
Simple, straight to the point, no nonsense, no fluff video. Thank you!
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Your video really helped me get the job done at work today, I love how you not only showed the front view but the behind view as well. Thank you for sharing!
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Thanks for mentioning that it needs to have the part I'm attaching to the wall- I almost forgot!
you can also add some glue or caulking to the toggle so it will stay glued to the back of the wall. then you can remove the screw and the toggle will stay in place
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Great idea!!
Gorilla glue? Lol. Or just go buy another toggle. Ain’t that expensive.
Jay Seven ... Darn, read your comment too late. Great tip!
Jay seven. What a great idea. Was almost tempted not to use these because of that draw back but will definitely be using this idea. Securing radiator mounts
Did it all myself and was at a loss to understand why they weren't fixing. The last 20seconds of your video made it all clear. Thank you so much for taking the time to do this.
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I found this very helpful. It's the first time I saw a video explaining and showing exactly how these sorts of bolts work -- by "gripping" or "biting into" the back of the drywall. All of the other videos left out that part, which left me wondering how these work. Thanks for the helpful video!
Exactly what I needed. Probably the most useful 90 seconds of my day!
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Thanks for posting such a well made video explanation: brief, thorough, and useful. Very helpful!
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You need a longer bolt, and ensure the spring action works prior to pushing in.
Thank you SO much for this great video! I was totally lost regarding these toggle bolts! :)
Jennifer Son
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These are by far the strongest toggles I've used, better than the spiral wall anchors in my opinion. I've been able to mount 100+ lbs older flat screens from 2009, without wondering if it's going to fall off the wall. and you know those tvs were some big boys back then.
Yes, these are one of the best fixings that you can get, they are also widely available and inexpensive
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comic addition , had a new house built, company sent handyman to fix loose towel rails I told him to use toggle bolts he did , unfortunately he screwed the expanding part back to front just had to redo correct way, he learned something new today
+Keith Green
Ha Ha, I hope that is one mistake he will only make once ;-)
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It is on a external wall. Just plaster boad and ply wood before the masonry wall. Its a new build. Thanks for the advice. Love your vids. I bet working with you must be great
Arks Shackerwell
Thanks, I often work with some brilliant people when I'm on site ;-)
Thanks for this, I was struggling to visualise how they worked. This helped a lot!
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An excellent video! Great that you showed the view from behind
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Really good example of how to use spring toggles thank-you!
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This video is BRILLIANT.
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It's perfect show for spring toggle . i love it
about to fix shelves at work in the stock room, thanks man!
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Thanks for all your videos they have been very helpful.
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thanks excellent video..you show the inside of the wall, so i can see how the toggle bolt actually works..you made it very simple and easy thanks !...i was trying to use regular plastic anchors to install a bath shower rod..it was loose and wouldnt get snug against the wall....the plastic anchors would just spin with the phillips screw when i tried to tighten them..i guess i drilled too big a hole, and the anchors have nothing to grip to while installed on the wall..i'll try these toggle bolts instead, they grip the INSIDE of the wall with the wings...THEN they get snug, and you can start screwing in the nail ..
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thank you well done
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Brilliant video
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Awsome mate, the lengths we have to go through today because they dont use brick anymore lol
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I rewatched this to hear your accent again. 😍
You either love it or hate it 😂
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Great video. A noob question though. If you need to drill a 12mm hole to fit the toggle though and the screw thread is just about 6mm or whatever, isn't the screw just loose though the wall? Usually you'd drill a hole to fit the screw size wouldn't you?
Yes, but once you tighten whatever it is you are fixing to the plasterboard the friction will hold the fixing in position.
You could, of course loosen the screw and you would be able to move it in the hole for a few mm in either direction- until you tighten the screw again.
This happened to my and my hole is 10mm and screw is what 5mm. Trying to put a shelf up
no i also noticed that, but i used these the other day and they didn't spring open, now i have 4 big ass holes in my wall
EXCELLENT video! Thank you very much! I am looking to install floating glass shelves onto drywall that have cinder blocks behind it. I heard of screws turning endlessly inside concrete. I've looked at Wall-Dog screws but toggle bolts seem more sound. What do you think?
Also what if I miss the void in the block & screw into the web/joint area of the block? The wings won't open but will the wings try to expand & bite enough of the concrete to get a decent hold?
Try reversing the bolt so the head is at the back of the toggle. Then use a separate nut to tighten the bracket on from the front. That way you can remove the bracket without losing the toggle.
That doesn't work. The idea of the spring toggle is to create a wide surface area for biting down into, if you reverse the spring toggle you're literally just having the bolt head support the entire thing which will cause it to fail under very light pressure/force, the people who thumbed you up are idiots.
Terrific video!! ~ So very helpful!! I'm now a subscriber!! Thanks heaps!!
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clear and straight forward. Good review.
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Good stuff thanks...have a bag of these here with me..sort of knew how to use them..but your advice helped a lot. Thanks..BTW..you from Bolton, Lancs?
Problem is that after you get the toggle screw through the fitting, does not leave enough length on the toggle screw, the screw is not long enough to clear through the plaster board for the toggles to spring open behind the plasteboard
Get a longer screw version ;)
The toggles shown in the video are large diameter small length toggles, you can use an alan key to clear up the debris on the other side of the plasterboard prior to installing the toggles that way any loose chunks get knocked off and leave you with a cleaner exit hole, or you can max out the toggle on the bolt and wiggle it.
Hi man! One more great video! Well done! Do you preffer spring toggles or Hollow wall anchors? Which one support more weight? Thank you
Spring toggles.
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Thank you. Very helpful
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Great video, thanks.
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Does this work on insulated plasterboard
I have a wacky wall where the screws for my curtain rods pull away from the wall. Would a toggle help that problem so it stays in place? If so, you will make my day. haha
It's hard to say without seeing it. Normally curtains are hung on external walls of the property, so there is normally a solid wall behind the plasterboard, which might stop these from working.
@ Ralph Connell
Just next door in Darwen.
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+Ultimate Handyman
Problem is that after you get the toggle screw through the fitting, does not leave enough length on the toggle screw, the screw is not long enough to clear through the plaster board for the toggles to spring open behind the plasterboard
+Jack Jill
Yes, that can be a problem with them.
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I am having the opposite to be honest, I brought some snap toggles the other day and I was a bit dubious about the size and low and behold the screws are far too long, I am just drilling a hole and as soon as it punches through that is it as I don't want to drill a hole into next door. One more job that I did not want a trip to a store to buy new screws. I am kind of thinking that a 13 mm snap toggle is not going to be good enough to put a heavy monitor on the wall as chances are the bracket holes will be a lot larger than the actual screw. So pretty much I think I am screwed either way lol
Knew I recognised that accent, Preston here :-)
my dumb ass nearly installed some m3x50 spring toggles without having threaded them through the speaker wall brackets i was mounting, cheers!
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you have awesome videos pimpin!
Muito bom, Divaldo from Brazil.
Obrigado pelo comentário, Divaldo
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Thank you! Cheers!
Do you have to drill a bigger hole to get spring toggle in since it is not round and sort of square shape?
As long as the hole is almost large enough, you can normally push the fixing through, as the plasterboard is only soft.
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Thank you so much for the view from behind the dark side of the wall !! I figured that was what it would look like. But, every other time I haven't a clue. I am trying to figure out what is up with the other kind? The kind with the plastic cover that covers the screw and as you turn the screw the plastic thing opens? Good luck with that one?
+jane doe You are welcome.Not sure which fixing you mean, is it one of these- czcams.com/video/mIEY3E4fiDk/video.html
Yes, it is like the blue one.. Wow,i was thinking the wrong way of course!
+jane doe
I have used the Grip it fixings a couple of times. When I get chance I'm going to do some tests on how much some of the better fixings can hold in plasterboard.
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Great video. Thank you!
Monica Decker
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***** I am not sure if you can answer a quick question but here goes: I am trying to hang a heavy shadow box. The dilemma I have is that the shadow box has small holes where a screw is introduced and then it slides up the narrow channel.
All the drywall anchors that are the plastic threading style have screw heads that are too large to go into the shadow boxes hole. I was looking at trying the spring toggles to give me the strength I need to support this heavy box but I don't think they are going to work.
You mentioned in your video that you must slide whatever you are attaching to the wall on the screw first and then place into the wall. I have nothing I can do this with. Can I used a washer or something?
I don't know why in the world they would make the holes so small for such a heavy object. Beyond me. Hope you can help. Thanks! :)
Monica Decker
Snap toggles are better - czcams.com/video/tAIUublenMw/video.html
These leave a threaded hole into which you can screw any bolt, providing it is the correct thread. So if you find that the head is too big on the bolts provided you can get cap head screws and use those instead.
So for example if the snaptoggles come with a 1/4 inch thread, you can get a 1/4 inch cap head bolt and use that instead of the supplied bolt.
What size drill bit did you use to drill the hole to push the toggle through?
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You do need a large hole for these, it was probably 12mm or 1/2 inch.
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Cheers pal. That part of taking the spring of first didn't even cross my mind. Dumbest builder right here 😅😅
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I need to fit a 20kg towel rail (has four fixings along only one side) and a 23kg bathroom cabinet (more when loaded with items) to a tiled plasterboard wall. Would you recommend spring toggles or snap toggles which I saw in your other video? Thanks!
I'd definitely use the snap toggles, they are superb on hollow walls ;-)
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Never thought of using them things on the wall.
Would these be suitable for fixing fixing tv to a wall?
It’s best if you fix a TV to the studs, these videos might help-
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Really helpful video, thanks for uploading! Can you use these on plasterboard ceilings? I need to hang a light fitting that weighs just over 2.5kg to the ceiling rose, but it is nowhere near a joist and I don't have access from above to rig up a batten(we live in ground floor flat). Would two of these be able to spread the load enough?
Yes, two of these should be fine for a 2.5KG light fitting.
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Self drill anchor plugs would be better for that in my opinion.
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I have a double thickness plasterboard ceiling for fire rating purposes....can the toggle bolt come in longer lengths to allow for twice the thickness of plasterboard?
Yes these are normally sold in specific sizes so for example in the UK you can get them with a M6 or M8 thread, so you can then just buy longer screws for such applications.
Nice vid.
Would these still work if you have celotex insulation boards in-between the joists?
It depends if there is a space between the plasterboard and the insulation. If there is no spaces these will not work, but Grip it fixings might, although you might need the undercutting tool-
Grip it- czcams.com/video/szx7nMRZSIY/video.html&t
Grip it with undercutting tool being used- czcams.com/video/-geib-6sa3M/video.html
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thanks for the ‘’ole story!
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I have 4" toggle bolts 3/8". What size hole should I drill to get the wings through the hole? 1/2 or 5/8"?
Not sure, just drill the smallest sized hole that the toggle will fit through. The smaller the hole, the stronger the fixing will be.
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What size drill bit did you use for that pilot hole?
Not sure, but the smaller the hole the better. I think it might have been 12mm
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BUT because it was a demo - you can retrieve your spring! :D
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lot ..Can this bolt hold kitchen cabinet alone.?
will this hold a medium size chandelier?
No, I would always fit a chandelier to a joist.
The pull out force on a ceiling is much different to that of a wall.
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I got the toggle into the hole, and when I tried the screw the screw in, ot just spun on the other side and never got tight.
Sometimes you have to pull them forwards for the toggle to catch the plasterboard.
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@@ultimatehandyman Hi! I had a similar problem- got it to tighten the first time. then had to loosen just a half turn of teh screwdriver to level the shelf again, and when I went to re-tighten, couldn't get it to grip again! Just continues to turn, even when I pull forward. Can't figure out what I did wrong! Any idea?
I'm having the problem at 0:53 - it won't open behind the plasterboard!
Is there insulation or cardboard in the void?
Sometimes you have to clear the way using a hex key/Allen key or similar.
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@@ultimatehandyman Thanks for the reply. I can't be sure, but I think the combined thickness of the coat hooks and plasterboard is meaning the toggle is not fully going through the hole and springing open on the other side. I'm going to try with a longer bolt and see if that works 👍🏻
Would you use that to hang a boiler? ?
Arks Shackerwell
No, Normally boilers are installed onto external walls, so these would work well-
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If it is a stud partition wall that you are fixing to then snap toggles are one of the strongest fixings you can get-
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Can these be used for a led tv 46" that I want to put on my plasterboard wall ? or am I barking up the wrong tree lol.
TheSoulKeeper7
Snap toggles are better if the wall is hollow- snaptoggles
Or if the wall is solid behind I prefer rigifix-
Rigifix wall anchors
Hi, would you use that to hang a tv support? (of 48") thanks
+Mauricio Carrasco I'd use snap toggles if possible, although these will do it as long as you use enough of them and space them out correctly on the fixing bracket. czcams.com/video/tAIUublenMw/video.html
+Ultimate Handyman thank you very much, your videos are very useful. greetings from Chile
+Mauricio Carrasco You are welcome.Thanks for the comments ;-)
How did i go wrong the toggle wouldn't go into the wall.. so I made a bigger hole. And then obviously you know what happened next
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nice to see those that backside
+Jonathan Falkowitz Thanks for the comment ;-)
No, he just needs to feel like he's doing something productive besides sitting inside all day watching YT. He's right about the fail at :50 though, where there wasn't enough bolt to push the toggle all the way through. A minor thing, really. I guess he really wanted to see them spring open! :O
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This man found a way to save the toggle.