My MacBook Is Aging TOO Well...
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- čas přidán 21. 05. 2024
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I think the M1 chip is a double edged sword. Apple made it too good. The M1 pro and M1 Max MacBooks are so good that MKBHD didn’t even upgrade.
I still have my M1 Max MacBook Pro, plenty of power.
No need to update.
When Apple was debating moving to Apple silicon I doubt it realized that its biggest competition would be older Apple silicon machines! I mean there’s not anything all that compelling about m2 (pro,max)and m3 (pro,max)to justify the significant additional costs over m1.
Which is why I believe Apple should’ve considered a design that allowed interested users to upgrade their logic boards. Keep the same screen, batteries, speakers, keyboard, storage, and swap out the logic board. I believe that would’ve driven revenue. But oh well.
Yes, Apple realised that and over M2 & M3, they have corrected their mistake by making their PC ecosystem more relative to the old school of base M3, mid-M3 Pro and the powerhouse M3 Max. That has meant a few changes and complaints, but the new business model was the right way, though it needed some fixing (return of two NAND 256GB).
They wanted to impress with the M1, but it has been a Catch-22; too good, as you say!
@@j340_official yep, hopefully Apple doesn’t purposely throttle older MacBooks to get people to upgrade.
@@andyH_Englandnow they have to contend with Qualcomm X Elite. And soon zen 5 and arrow lake. So big generational upgrades will likely come back.
Graphic designer and video editor. M1 Pro 16" 16GB, 512 SSD. Flawless after nearly 3 years. Best MacBook I've owned. No upgrades on the horizon for me.
Hi I have the same spec, can you kindly narrate your experience regarding storage and 16gb ram utilization with large video files. Also, what sort of work flows would make your 16GB memory pressure turn red?
SAME SETUP:
it is so nice as hobbyist CZcamsr (in other words, an occasional/infrequent poster of videos), to have such a machine that can easily edit videos on the fly! (:
@@micosstar Thank you kind sir :)
I totally regret NOT getting 16GB RAM which is why I have to get an M3 now 😢
Even old macbook pros… I owned an i7 16ram 2011 MBP, paid 1k in 2012, sold it in 2021 for 500 bucks, in perfect condition. Not a scratch
My M1 Max MacBook was my first macOS device and my experience has been phenomenal. It’s easily the best laptop I’ve owned in any category
Same. I agree 100%. Worse with gaming, but I didn't buy it thinking it would be good for gaming, and to be fair that's just in terms of support. The games it can play do run pretty well for being a laptop.
in any category ? Oled? Gaming ?
@StoopVital nobody buys a Mac for gaming. I just assumed he meant everything besides gaming, which I agree with. OLED is awesome and next level, but even my MacBook air m1 has a great screen. That's probably the only area they can improve in other than support for gaming, which apple has been horrible at
@@StoopVitalthe best they’ve owned, they may have not owned a gaming laptop
@@hobosnake1the argument that “nobody buys macs for gaming” only applies to the knowledgeable buyers lol, apple and retailers are dishonest with marketing and display only “3x performance, battery life” on the front page and they’d assume it applies to gaming too. Literally saw my friends and family regretting a MacBook Pro, 1200$ device because they thought expensiveness equates to everything
I managed to score a base model M1 Pro 16 inch about a year ago. It was priced at $1700 open box at Best Buy, and I traded in my 15 inch MacBook Pro from 2019 for about $800, so out the door it was about $1000 with tax. It’s an amazing laptop and like you’re saying is aging so well. It’s really going to be hard to top this laptop.
That’s a great deal!
Film and TV editor here. I bought an M1 Pro 14" in 2021 and it still blows my mind what this thing is capable of. I can playback 8K Red RAW in realtime in Resolve with 16GB RAM. WHAT. Pretty flawless machine IMO, it does everything I need it to do.
I have a base 14” MacBook Pro M1 Pro since March ‘22 (a few months after launch), and for my needs, it’s a BEAST. I watch more movies and video content on it than I do in my living room…
Incredible deal! They are fantastic media players
Same here. Got the 14" M1 Pro base model Mac for personal use. Such a strong contender, didn't even slow down a bit since i bought it. I do programming, run Docker containers also play with LLM models too sometimes. I love the fact that It NEVER turn on fans even after pushing so hard. Not gonna upgrade till 2028 atleast.
imagine buying a macbook *PRO* to watch videos...
@@weiss588 actually that is all I do with the same model of MacBook pro, it's just a bummer that I don't have the need to edit videos, would really love to use it to full potential but so sad I can't
Watch Apple doing sneaky to 'forces' people to upgrade their MacBooks with future macOS software....
Oh yeah…
With AI, the new buzzword, and if it does take off with some useful AI features, then people will probably have to upgrade to get the best and fastest LLM.
@@andyH_England Subject Lift and Centre Stage are examples of useful AI features.
Customers will complain about the update and Apple backs down by making the OS updates run incredibly slow on older hardware.
@@andyH_EnglandGood point. Some reviewers think that AI will require more RAM. But I think that AI is hugely overrated and may be a technology dead end.
I bought the M2 Macbook Air with 24GB or RAM, 2TB of storage from Amazon renewed.
Obviously I've only had it for 1 year, but this is the best laptop I've owned, 0 problems, amazing battery life and power, etc.
I don't think I'll update this machine until the next 6-7 years honestly
I got a base model M1 Pro right before the M2 Pro models came out and it's easily the best laptop I've ever owned. I recently got a 16 M3 Max for heavier duty work and I'm fully convinced that I might not need to upgrade until the M7-M8 models come out.
I actually discovered something very interesting with my and my friend's devices. Basically any laptop we bought, generally 2000$+ (mine cost 2000$) hasn't slowed down in past couple of years. I am a power user who has need for 64 gb ram as i use photoshop, premiere pro, illustrator , then games maybe and all that at almost same time. So I am a power user and such and i have noticed my 5-6 year old windows laptop too hasnt slowed down much. Its comforting to know that the times where a device would have been obsolete in like 3-4 years are long gone.
and yeah you're correct, people who do 3d modeling, gaming,engineering etc prefer windows (especially just desktops or chonky laptops)
This is largely attributing to having SSDs being standard now instead of the slow clunky spinning hard drives. Those drives have a relatively limited life due to wear of spinning mechanical parts.... Only for about 2-3 years before you start noticing a slowdown. At about 5 years, it's pretty much toast and you risk loosing data.
I think around 2020 was when most laptops, medium to high end, have started to ship with just SSDs. Only higher end for anything since 2018. So, yeah... Honestly SSDs are basically improving computing experiences across the board.
@@zeighy yes, SSD's are a good reason. But also that there exactly hasn't been much groundbreaking innovation in the market. A laptop that came out 10 years ago, could also have 8-16gb of ram, and a laptop that comes out now also has 8-16 gb of ram. Processor has gotten fast yes, but Windows hasn't gotten much intensive. Most people with older devices still use windows 7 and 10. And windows 10 isn't outdated for most people. And yes, SSD's.
Microsoft : hold my beer
This is your best review to date. I'm a new convert to MacOS after 40 years of DOS/Windows. I stumbled on to a M1 Max 14" (32gb/24c/2tb) on eBay with renewable AppleCare+, and it is the BEST laptop I've owned since the original Toshiba T1100 Plus in the mid 80's (because it was the first full feature DOS laptop). Above all, you are absolutely right about upgrades, and the comparison to a zero time export only saving you 20 minutes per day over this M1 Max. For an "office drone" like myself (productivity without gaming/video processing), I've never felt I'd keep a device for "years" but this one likely outlast my need for a laptop.
So on the topic of what people do with their MacBook's. I am a 3d artist professionally, and while I did have a custom system I built with a 4090 for rendering. And that was insanely fast for rendering for sure. But I had to sell my desktop due to a pretty massive life event. But after that I still had a base M1 MacBook Air I was using as a around the house internet browsing machine. And I was forced to try and use it for my 3d modeling and rendering work. And while it cannot compete with the 4090 I had, it genuinely surprised me. It has faster timeline animation playback than my desktop. And while the rendering was no where near as close to my 4090 it was serviceable. So tempting expectations is a must. But once you do you realise just how good it was.
Well skip forward a little bit and now I bought a base 14" M3 Pro MacBook Pro, and wow it handles waay more than I would have ever thought. Couple that with that battery life and everything else, I think I am going to be on Mac for a while. Do I miss my massive steam library for the off chance I would actually play a game? Sure. But there are Steam Decks and such for that.
That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing
How is the m3 pro performance vs your old desktop. Also what cpu did you have? It is surprising to me that you experienced better timeline playback on the apple chromebook versus your 4090 machine. Maybe you had a slow cpu or no ASICS or something.
@@definingslawek4731 apple chromebook 😂
You bought a base model m3 pro, so 8GB ram for rendering which will be swapping always on that tiny 256gb ssd. That ssd will die fast lol 😂
@@tomasradacovsky7227 the base model has a 512gb SSD. And after checking memory usage and actually optimizing my scenes model and textures and so forth, no I’m not using any swap. So you’re wrong.
If you’re incompetent and don’t know what you’re doing and don’t set your expectations correctly based on your tools then sure you could wreck your machine. But that’s more of a you problem at that point.
To each their own.
Got my M1 Pro 14" from my previous job and I got to keep it after I was laid off, was using my personal 2018 15" Pro before this and I love the screen size, screen, power and battery life, it's the best computer for me as I work on iOS apps and doing a Software QA gig at the moment.
Over the next year all of the corporate refreshes for employees with the m1 will happen and we’re going to see some amazing value.
Facts
That skit sums it up nicely! Well done! 2021 base 16'' pro owner here. 5gb read/write ssd 200Gb/s throughput and 8 P cores. Funny thing though, the used marketplace doesn't seem to have a clue what these are worth due to the nomenclature of thinking M1 is lesser than m2 which is lesser than M3 and in some cases its correct, but many it's not. The resale value on these IMHO has not held up as well as the intel macbooks did. Upgrade? What for, I did find a stuck pixel the other day, and my battery health is at 82% after only 58 cycles, but like you said you could even buy and install one yourself for $100. They did make this laptop too good. I love it.
My Mid-2010 MacBook pro lasted me for about 10 years, with 2 battery replacements.
I got the 16" 2019 MacBook Pro, and continued to use the 2010 model as a second screen for a bit, but my iPad Air 4 has replaced it in that role now.
These days for most people, it is going to be like buying a new washing machine. You get one when the old one breaks down.
As for what could come in the future, it is mostly going to be new AI features that need a faster neural engine. Subject Lift and Centre Stage for example are AI features.
If there was something in a future version of Final Cut that made it quicker for you to select the bits of the video that don't make it here; and that required a faster neural engine; that could maybe significantly reduce your editing time, and make it worthwhile for you to upgrade.
When you get an M1 Pro in five years, you’ll love it!
@@TylerMaximus It will likely be an M8 Pro that I replace it with.
Last month, I purchased a refurbished MacBook Pro m1 Max from Amazon for $1900. It came with 32GB and 32 graphic cores. I am really happy with it!
Still rocking an M1 Pro 16" here. No need at all to upgrade. It's still the best chassis on the market, best build, best screen, best keyboard/trackpad, speakers/mic, battery etc. M1 Pro is also rapid, everything is instant, photoshop is instant, programming is, I compile Java, JS, and SQL a lot and it's effortless. Plus with the 'Vivid' app I can get 1000 nits brightness sustained so outdoors use is amazing. No need to upgrade at all, and probably not for at least another 2/3 years minimum
Still rocking old M1 macbook air. Bought the cheapest model and for what I’ve been using it (youtube, remote work, messengers and social media, occasionally dabbing into one game (FFXIV) when I can’t log into it on my main PC either due to power issues or travel ) it holds up really well. I feel that this is probably best companion to my home big rig that does all heavy duty and it does stuff really well!
I would consider to upgrade M1 air - m2+ case feels better + magsafe.
@@user-gi4qu9do2v m2 base is much slower compared to m1 for some reason.
I’ve been on the Base M1 Air for 2 years now. My only consideration for upgrading would be to a 14” M2 Pro for the HDMI port or wait until OLED models drop. Pixel level inky blacks and faster response times will be well worth the upgrade over Mini-LED
Crazy it’s already been 2.5 years. I love my M1 MacBook Pro 14” don’t see needing to upgrade for a long time.
I got the base M1 Pro 14 inch MacBook Pro back in 2021 when it launched. It’s been amazing to use to finish up high school, along with a few semesters of college. I might be going to the 16 inch M3 Max MacBook Pro as it’s starting to struggle with my heavier workloads nowadays due to the low CPU.
Bought my base 13” M1 Macbook Pro in 2021 as my first transition from Windows to MacOS. 3 years later, runs like it’s brand new still. Little to no issues over that amount of time. Used for undergrad, photo editing, docs, and so much more. By far one of the best investments/purchases I’ve made!
I’m still using my 2018 MacBook Pro and I’m chillin
I’m chilling with my 2015 MacBook Pro. Replaced the battery. Zero issues. Everything runs smooth. Macs are absolutely solid products.
Same here. I just have some overheating issues and lagging, and also battery service, but other than that its still good
Hell, I use my iPad Air from 2019 for adobe illustrator. My gaming pc is even older, 2015
I’m still using my 2014 13’’ MacBook Pro retina as a daily driver and it is faster than our company supplied Dell laptop which is only 2 1/2 years old.
@@michaelbradley3393 hell yeah!
I got an M2 Mac Mini for Christmas and I still have yet to set it up. For me my iPhone 11 Pro Max has been my master Apple product that does everything.
Bruh, you should like set that up. It’s amazing how much you realize you’re missing out online with a computer after exclusively using a phone or iPad for awhile
Likewise. I got m2 mini and m1 Mba abandoned. My daily driver is still 2015 mbp.
14" m3pro owner here.. I don't see needing to upgrade any time soon. I manage a small business and the associated website.. This mostly means a lot of multitasking with a bunch of apps running and the occasional video and photo editing. It also serves as my personal machine which means web browsing, youtube and some gaming. I don't feel like I've even come close to stressing it out yet.. Batteries great too and I also use aldente to cap it in the 80-90% range. I definitely kind of splurged on this machine but at the same time, I also found a great deal at 1600 (18/512gb model). By far the nicest laptop I've owned.. Had it for just about 3 months now. I feel like it'll be comparing my iphone to new releases in a few years.. Currently have a 13pro and I just don't see any advantage whenever I compare it to a newer one! Plan on keeping the iphone for at least another couple years.. Will probably replace the battery in the next year and I feel the same about the macbook. Could definitely see keeping it onto the 2030s like you said.
M1 is a masterpiece. I recently tried the M3 Max because I have some headroom issues with my M1 Max in single core performance in certain use cases but the M3 Max didn't solve the issues either so I returned it. I do music production and some synthesizers I use in VST form can be single core heavy but other than that the M1 max is a dream. Really great in every way.
I have an M2 Pro and don’t see myself upgrading any time soon. Had my 2014 15” MacBook Pro Retina for almost 10 years and beside replacing the battery two times it never failed on me.
A couple months I got a M1 Pro, used, 1tb 20cycles, for 1k. It works great this far! Recently I had a great bargain with a M2 Air , 1tb, 16gb (same 1k!) and it keeps up editing videos and such with the M1 Pro.
Only thing that could get me to consider jumping from the M1 Max MBP (aside from software obsolescence) is a CF express card slot. They really did do a lot for this first gen device. I love it
I have an M1 MB Pro 13 base and an iPad Pro M1, 3.5 and 3 years old. I see no reason to upgrade for another 5+ years as I am a light user, and these are future-proofed. I never understood the hate for the iPad, as when I bought it, I knew what it did and did not do, and I accepted that with no regrets. It is a complimentary device, and if it and the Mac lasts me 10 years, then that is a great value. As I have two devices, I cover all my bases and spread the wear and tear between them. Common sense is a great attribute.
If you knew what the iPad did and did not do, then why get a $1000+ M-series iPad? It's like putting a Corvette engine into the chassis of a Ford Pinto, with a governor that doesn't allow you to go past 60 MPH. I don't understand why someone needs a mobile device with a chip that can beat out most laptops in performance.
@@redpillsatori3020 That is a narrow vision and sad. Most people buy an iPad for 5-7 years or even longer, so saying having the best performance now, even if overkill, is not worthwhile is trolling and biased. I can only assume you are anti-Apple, as that is a terrible take. Really, you make absolutely no sense, and if the Galaxy Tab S10 had the M3 in, no one would complain. Ridiculous!
@@redpillsatori3020 I believe the M-series iPad will give unparalleled longevity because of the wider performance headroom, even if its feature set is on a speed governor.
I’m on a base model 14 inch MBP with the M1 Pro chip. Upgraded from my intel 2019 13 inch model. It can handle all of the recording I throw at it. I don’t think I see myself upgrading for another 3-4 yrs at this rate and even then, it is going to have to be compelling to get me to upgrade. I’ve always loved my old unibody 13 inch 2012 but I feel that my current machine along with a MacBook Air M1 (especially when around $700) are the two greatest laptops ever made in terms of value to the dollar.
The only thing I can think of that could get me to upgrade is probably a thinner design, if they could fit everything this current MacBook Pro can do and not compromise anything but in the thinness of a MacBook Air that would be too tempting for me. I love my 16” M1 Pro MacBook Pro but this is a heavy chonky boy and I can see that being a reality several years down the road.
I got a base 14 inch pro as a birthday gift a couple years ago, my first Mac and I love it. Still runs like new and it runs basically any game or program perfectly
Ive owned 2 models of Mac pros in the past and now rock the 14” M1 Pro. I’ve never been happier with a computer and the added convenience over a Mac Pro easily justifies the slightly lower performance compared to those. It’s amazing.
My M1 Air is maxed out in the base tier and it’s operating like it did day one, I’ve never experienced slowdown and it’s primarily used for video editing.
I picked up my first MBP 14 base model at Costco last year for $1500. Solid deal since M2 just came out. I haven't had any issues with it and it's amazing to travel with.
My 14 inch M1 Pro MacBook will be about 2 years old this summer, and I have zero inclination to upgrade. Not only does it have way more power than I can realistically use (not a video content creator, but I do occasionally run some games in a Windows VM with Parallels), but it also still feels brand new to me. There's not a blemish on it, and the battery health is still at 99%. It'll be years before I need to even replace the battery, let alone upgrade.
How do you treat you battery then ?
@@noldaems760 In my case I just use it. Granted most of my workflow isn't very performance intensive, so it doesn't use a ton of power and doesn't drain the battery quickly. About half of the time I use it plugged into my thunderbolt dock (and charging) as a desktop setup, and the other half of the time it is unplugged and used as a laptop on battery power. Never had any issues.
I got one as well the day they were announced and it's still going so strong. I don't see any reason it can't last another 5 years at this point. The leap from my 2017 Intel i7 silica MBP to this is night and day.
I have a 2020 M1 Air 8/512 since 2021, and as a product design student it never got any slower, just incredible
Still on the M1 Macbook pro 13" with a touch bar. Its been holding up great. Only thing I would've done differently is get more hard drive space. I was going to wait to upgrade until we got FaceID or oled displays but my next Macbook pro will probably be my last one because I plan on maxing out the specs
My sister still uses her MacBook from 2012. Of course she’s had to replace the entire screen before and recently did a sketchy workaround procedure to update to the latest macOS but all things considered, it’s impressive and baffling to me at the same time she’s been using the same computer for a dozen years now.
12 years is a good run.
Got mine after M2 was released, it's a 32Gb with 1Tb of storage for $1.5k, a total bargin. A total beast of a machine. Was a little skeptical about the notch at first, but got used to it.
That's a ridiculous bargain, honestly.
I have a base model 15 inch MacBook Air I bought for school and web browsing, and I honestly feel like I could keep this thing for 10 years. I am shocked at how well it handles things, even light gaming. It does everything I might need a laptop to do and it's built so well I don't see a need to get anything else for a long time
My 14" M1 Pro has replaced my PC for all tasks except gaming, and is an amazing piece of kit, especially for the cost £1,450 new in 2022. I will be holding onto it for a long time. I do find it heavy compared to my 2019 HP Envy laptop I had before and a lot more cumbersome to carry around the house etc so I also now have a 2017 MacBook 12" that I use for web browsing, document writing and watching videos on the go. If Apple put the premium displays into the MacBook Air, that would be worth the trade off for a lighter laptop.
I’ve had my only MacBook Pro for almost 6 years now. It’s an intel of course but still feels like new.
I haven’t upgraded yet because I can’t afford to do it, but I hope I will be able to later this year.
I’d probably go for an M3 variant then just because it’s out and it will last longer.
What year is it? I've been planning to get a 2018 MacBook Pro, core i9, but I've been hearing bad things about heating and it's battery
@@imaginejargons it’s a 2018. Why would you get an Intel Mac when you can get an M series instead? With those new computers that seem like pure magic, I’d never recommend an intel computer to anybody.
my M1 Pro 14 inch base model is all I could ever ask for the last few years. battery life has dropped a little bit maybe, but overall theres no task or process I cant complete. sometimes large files can get the fans jumping. but we are talking hundreds of gigs sometimes or transfers.
I got the 2020 13’ M1 MacBook Pro… first gen that came out with the chip. Have never had any complains. Part of me wishes I waited for 2021 16’ model for bigger screen, hdmi, magsafe… but still a great machine. Has never let me down (Computer Engineering)
Got the M1 Max when it came out. Never felt like it couldn’t pull something off or was too slow. Magnificent machine
i torture my m1 air and i often use it with gpu and cpu maxed. out on games and my work flow.its been great.
I purchased a M1pro 14 inches... the thing is an absolute beast and works ridiculously well now in May 2024. I've only restarted it to update the OS, an amzing machine.
i have a 14" M1 that i use for music production and it still feels like i just bought it. it has way more power than i need too
M1 Max 16" 64 GB and 1 TB SSD - bought it release day, waited 2 months for shipment. Still rocking on and probably gonna rock on for at least 5 more years!
i have my m1 for almost 2 years, but lately i have been noticing that it gets way hotter than it used to, even when doing simple/light tasks. + the battery has been draining really fast since a couple months.
The future won’t be about regular performance but about AI and tokens per second.
M1 macbook was my first ever macbook, and I am soooooo impressed by it with the ability and how long the battery last. Everytime i use back my dell work laptop I was like wtf out of battery again
Had a M1 Pro 14” 16gb for a few years. Just sold it and upgraded to an M1 Max with 64gb ram. 16 was a little on the low end for my needs. Amazing laptop though.
I had the worst issue with web pages using too much memory on a 16GB M1 Pro. Having to repeatedly input my login credentials while doing research because the webpage just continued increasing RAM usage until the page was forced to close and reopen while I was researching effectively was hardening my vibes. I upgraded and have never reencountered it.
Also, when the effort is put into porting a game for it, they run like a dream. Baldur’s Gate 3 and Death Stranding run well in low-power mode on an M3 Max, which I could never imagine happening on a Windows gaming laptop.
the m chips are so good i went for the m2 pro instead of buying the new m3 of any kind. saved myself a chunk of change and still gave me all the performance i would need for future years to come. plus the "downgrade" allowed me to spec up my machine and not come any where near it would be brand new. super happy with it
im so thinking about it, get a base m3 or a maxed out m2
@@edwardsteinjolt3720 maxed out m2 everyday of the week. base m3 is simply not it
@@edwardsteinjolt3720 maxed out m2 every day of the week. itll prolly even be cheaper
@@edwardsteinjolt3720 maxed out m2
Bought the 13" MBP M1 in 2021, been using it up 'til now. Dang, maybe the best purchase i had made. Sadly change back to windows cause of Engineering Software needs though, gave it to my bro and still running smoothly, dang, even the battery life is just crazy good (2-3 days of usage)!
I am totally cool with this way of doing things. Put in everything you can and then do incremental upgrades. You can upgrade when you want to and not when they bring that ONE additional feature you must have.
I think the biggest upgrade we could see for the MacBook is Face ID because I'm not exactly sure what else it really needs, like yes new chips will come but the big jump from intel to apple silicon isn't really going to happen again; at least for a good while. Hot swappable batteries and upgradable storage would be nice but not exactly something I'd expect from current day apple.
At this point it seems more likely that for the average consumer the system will lose software support before they actually need to upgrade. Also note that after 7 years of a product no longer being on sale(directly from apple) repair technicians can have greater difficulty sourcing parts from apple and after 9 years it becomes basically impossible with I think escalations to higher management being required to even get the part and the request can be denied for any reason including they don't want to provide the part.
From what I understand after 7 years all manufacturing of replacement parts is ended and its based on the remaining supplies so if you need a logic board replaced but they don't have the 512gb logic board they may give you a 1TB logic board instead but they won't give you a 256GB logic board as from what I've learned it can't be a downgrade for the customer(based on the serial number specs, if you got a 1TB board for your 512gb model and you need another logic board replaced you could get a 512gb board if one is found) and if they've run out of the part like say the I/O board your repair may be denied unless required by an applicable law in which case they either need to manufacture a new part or find a working part. Also to my understanding after 9 years the warehouse space is cleared out to make room for more parts so Apple literally does not have the parts to supply to technicians anymore except maybe in extremely limited quantities for extreme outlier cases or for their internal engineers to be able to reference the manufactured part if needs be.
Bro, my MacBook Pro 2015 is still kicking ass after almost 10 years
In December 2023 I upgraded from a M1 13in mbp to a 16in m2 pro with 1tb. The m1 Mac was fine for my needs but 8gb ram weren’t enough since I‘m making music and doing a lot of real time audio stuff and because I’ve improved my production a lot since i got the m1 in 2021. the upgrade was definitely worth it. But if I had the M1 Pro 16in I probably wouldn’t have upgraded. And i could have gotten the m3 pro instead of the m2 pro but 1st it was cheaper and 2nd has worse multicore performance because a lot of DAWs can’t fully utilize all cores. The performance cores yes but not the efficiency cores and since the m3 has 50/50 of those i felt like I was at a loss and went for the m2. I‘m very happy with it and it basically handles everything that I throw at it. Even playing some games via whisky is great :)
I’ve been a surface and xps user for years, my last personal machine was a fully maxxed out xps15 9520. It cost about the same as the MacBook Pro of the time and it’s been fine. I got a m2 MacBook Air and it’s completely replaced my i9 XPS. The Apple chips are much more powerful and efficient.
I am using the M1 Pro 16-inch MBP with 32 GB and 512 GB SSD drive and got it refurbished from Apple Store. Good buy to complement my old 15-inch Mid-2015 MBP which I still use! And as Taylor would say, they are both Aging ….All Too Well!
M1 13" macbook pro, 16GB 1TB SSD. Holds up really well after 3 years. Only issue i have is when doing extensive work on after effects but even then, I hardly use after effects so i'm reluctant to upgrade (maybe i'll upgrade to the M1 pro/max)
LOL! Your intro is gold. The only thing I would add in the list of features to incent people to upgrade is the space black color! I really hope Apple sees this lol cause iPadOS needs a similar blockbuster upgrade.
My M1 Max 14” is the best laptop I’ve ever owned. I will not upgrade it until thunderbolt 5 arrives. And then after that I won’t upgrade again until it physically won’t turn on anymore. The only thing different I will do in the future is get more RAM. I have 32 GB but I will get at least 64 GB or more because I tend to run virtual machines simultaneously (Ubuntu and windows 11). But other than that the M1 Max machine is a beautiful machine. Probably the best ever from Apple. Really good job they did.
My only ding is the lack of upgradability. I understand the ram is unified so perhaps that can’t be upgraded. But storage should be upgradable. There’s no reason why Apple couldn’t put an empty nvme slot inside the machine. I run 3 pcie devices via the the thunderbolt bus including nvme storage and a Marvell aquantia aqc113s 10 Gbe lan adapter (this particular chipset works well with AirPlay unlike the aqc107s) . All pcie. All on the thunderbolt bus. The Mac supports booting macOS from thunderbolt media. So rather than external storage, the storage could’ve been internal no technical reason why Apple couldn’t do it. But that’s a small nitpick in the grand scheme of things.
I bought the exact MacBook Pro you have at release (just with 2TB storage) and I’m pretty sure it’s gonna go the same way as my 2018 12.9-inch iPad Pro in terms of just keeping it for years and years because of how well it’s aging. The one downside of it 2.5 years later is I have quite a few cycles on the battery and it doesn’t last as near as long (understandably), but even that is nowhere near as bad as the intel days with the 15-inch 2019 MBP battery life 😂
I just upgrade my 2011 MacBook pro to a MacBook Air M2 base spec after the M3 launch with education discount. Nearly 13 years and I decided to treat myself, I only use it for very basic stuff and have M1 Mac mini if I need to do something 'more'... basically never.
I bought the M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16 at launch and still love it. I would have liked a USB-A port but I'm almost completely migrated to USBC and I just need to replace one more device and then it's not an issue. The newer MacBook Pros have somewhat more efficiency but, at this point, battery is probably more dependent on display brightness. What would get me to upgrade is a 17.3 inch 4k display as my setup works better with 4k than the funny resolution that Apple uses. I think that I could use a 17.3 inch Air as well as I actually don't need the CPU/GPU in the MacBook Pro.
Oh - they could probably get a bunch of people to upgrade by getting rid of the notch.
I've been using an M1 Macbook Air for 3 years during university and no, my usage hasn't been just internet browsing and reading emails, quite the opposite. I study visual and product design, so the range of use is from graphic design content to 3d modelling in Rhinoceros and it did not give me any real problem. I chose to buy the 16gb of ram version and thank god I made that decision, one of my classmates bought the base M1 Macbook Pro 13 and now has big problems because of the lack of that extra ram.
Apart from that the only reason I could have to upgrade wouldn't be a real upgrade, because i'd just buy a 14" base Macbook Pro with tha M1 Pro to have a boost in performance for 3D modelling anything other than that would be useless for me since I have a built PC for harder work like 3D Renderings. AND even with that "upgrade" I would have to turn down one real good pro of the Air, and it's the portability.
I have a m2 pro 14' and i more or less use it for school and light coding which i need to pass the class. Never had the fans spin up yet in the last 8months of having it 😅. If nothing slows down i think i'll be using this for atleast 5 years
I got a refurbished MBP 16" 16GB w/ 1TB SSD for $1500 last year and I seriously don't think I'd ever need to upgrade it until the SSD eventually gives out a decade from now. I can't name a single hardware flaw and it's the best battery experience I've had with a laptop period (used exclusively Asus and Surface laptops for the previous decade).
I'm mainly a programmer and game dev and I do light video editing and 3D rendering. I have a beefy Windows rig at home but needed a portable option because I'm frequently traveling or not at home most of the day. For the first time, a MacBook was a viable option for my specific workflow and I'm very happy with this. Compile times are fast, and it handles basic 3D like a champ even on battery.
I have the same MBP as u - bought new in OCT 2021 and the max capacity for the battery is still 100% - it'll be a sad day when I eventually have to upgrade - but thats not for a while yet
I just bought my first Macbook Pro M1 used for a 40% discount. Very well taken care of and looking forward to using it :)
I have an M1 MBA and honestly it’s just the perfect machine for me. I don’t really do video editing or heavy things but occasionally gaming and honestly it just feels like the perfect fit. It’s been over a year for me and I can’t see myself replacing my laptop for probably another 5 years and even then idk if it would really be worthy for my workflow
The last Apple device I owned was a school iPad, which will stay the last as dealing with iOS and the unreliable lightning port was the worst.
This I 'upgraded' to an ancient Core 2 duo laptop, which felt like a massive improvement, but have since long replaced with a ThinkPad with an early AMD Ryzen APU.
While not nearly as good (nor expensive) as an M1 macbook, this machine has held up beautifully for the 5 years I've used it.
As in, it looks worn but everything still works and is fully sturdy and together. Surprisingly the battery is also still good, though the first years I limited the capacity for extending it's life.
I've thought about upgrading to a Framework 16, but as that ThinkPad still fulfils my needs, this feels unnecessary and wasteful.
I have used Linux for all this time, though with a Mac-OS like layout (and Windows Vista like theme), thankfully as even out of the box that laptop was annoyingly slow with Windows.
And as someone doing an IT studies and playing with a personal server as a hobby, Linux is the better OS for me, as I know how to quickly get it working for me.
Just bought my first MacBook with an M3 ever in my life and it's been a phenomenal experience for everything I do. Now I find myself in the situation where I'm selling all of my other laptops just so I can have this singular one, already sold my gaming laptop for the same price I paid for this, now I just have two more lol.
I used the 2012 MacBook Pro had my only computer for about six years until I got an iMac. Then I didn’t get a new laptop until the M2 MacBook Air.
The only reason I could imagine wanting to upgrade is to get the Pro model again, but even then I’m not sure, because I don’t use HDMI or SD cards, and I don’t do video editing so I don’t need the better screen.
Even the Air is so good I can’t see a reason to upgrade for years.
I bought a slightly used M2 air 14” and its holding up amazing. Fast, light, 10/10. And I don’t get the fingerprint issue
I have a base M1 MacBook Air and will definitely be upgrading to an M3 MacBook Air with 16GB RAM once the M4s come out and the prices are good. It was the best computer I've ever had, but the lack of memory is starting to show.
incredible impressions!
My mom still uses the MacBook 2012 until today. It’s pretty slow in my opinion, but 12 years is insane as she only uses the most basic of basic stuff. Never had to buy a new one
After getting the 14" M3 Pro as a replacement for my Windows laptop - I definitely see this device lasting an easy 5-10 years without many issues other than a battery replacement.
I really want to get a m3 as my first apple laptop/computer. I'm going to do it.
The only reason I'd upgrade from my 14/M1 would be to get the 16 inch screen. I love my current MBP, but at this point I need a little more working area. I'm in a position where I often can only rely on my laptop screen and not larger external monitors.
Very happy 3D generalist here working on a MBP with M3 Max. While 3D artists and professionals in related fields do tend to work on Windows machines, there has always been a certain number of users on Mac and that has only been going up ever since Apple Silicon came to Macs. I guess the trend will be the same going forward.
If I could get away with a MacBook pro for college I would, only issue is that I'd need to run a fair amount of software in VMs, my mom has an M1 14in and it's been amazing, super nice to use too
my primary machine is an Asus ROG flow X16, obviously given x86 battery isn't as good as mx macbooks, but in terms of aging, 18 months in it's still keeping up despite my ever increasing compute workload, hoping to not need a new PC till 2032 😁
the only question now for these types of devices is how long the OS updates will be delivered. 🤷
I'm too broke to be watching this
Same brother
I have a refurb'd M1 Pro MBP 14 (16GB/1TB) and the base M1 Studio Max. I'm set for a very long time.
Mine is still performing well, but it's already on its second screen (the first one developed random lines and the lid sensor failed). The battery is approaching 420 cycles @ 81% of the original capacity. Other than those issues I've experienced, it's still such a good laptop that it won't make sense to upgrade until at least 2027.
I upgraded from an 9th gen i7 MBP16 to the M2 Pro MBP16 about 10 days back. The difference is night and day. I have found nothing that this does badly in these 10 days, I could count at least 10 that the old one did 1 week in. Don't know how this can be bettered.
True story! I bought the m1 max 16 and it was still super relevant when I sold it recently... I did switch back to PC as I started gaming more again so I got a Lenovo Legion Slim 16 i9 RTX4070 and cranked up the Ram... I miss the Mac for sure... Mostly FCPX but I am enjoying Davinci Resolve Free version currently and like that I am not limited in the software game. But besides that I would have been 100% happy staying with the m1 max 16 I had for at least a couple more years
My biggest gripe with MacBooks in general but especially my 16" M1 Pro is the weight.
For commercially Li Ion batteries a 100Wh only requires about 375g (with more advanced packaging Apple can probably get this lower).
Looking at the rather small cooling system, leads me to the conclusion that the largest contributor to the high weight of this device is the chassis.
Going with a carbon fibre or sacrificing some structural solidity could really improve the real world usability. Laptops break for lot of reasons, snapping in half is pretty rare.
Still rocking my M1 14 inch MacBook Pro. At times I wish I’d purchased the 16 inch instead but I makeup for that with external monitors at my desk. Unless it dies, I don’t see a reason to get a new one or upgrade.
I got a M1 Pro (double binned version) 14 inch 512gb MacBook Pro! It is so good and super fast for everything I do! I play a lot of Minecraft on it and it’s getting usually 150+ FPS in Minecraft! I do some light music production in MuseScore and everything is so so much faster. I upgraded from a 2013 MacBook Pro 13 inch, it was really struggling the past few months and this just blows it out of the atmosphere it’s that fast! I definitely recommend this laptop
My Windows work laptop stopped working for me. So I upgraded to a MacBook Pro with the M2 Pro chip, 16GB model. I can seriously see myself using this for the entire lifespan of MacOS updates. And I’m VERY curious to see if anyone in the productivity space on CZcams will still be using their early M Series chips, when MacOS doesn’t continue support.
I still use my mid 2012 macbook pro for everything. Web browsing, light music production, etc.... still a very capable machine. 16gb of ram and ssd. It still has a better trackpad and build quality than most new windows machines. Definitely don't need the latest laptop to be happy
I think you are completely correct. There are actually creators out there suggesting an upgrade to the M3 if you have an M1 and that just seems plain stupid unless you really have money to burn or specialised requirements. I also suspect that Apple will have longer support times for the M units than they did for the Intel ones - and speaking of that, you can still buy an M1 Air (a design I prefer to the new one - apart from Magsafe) new from Walmart so any purchaser there would expect a good few years of support.