@@RedDwarfNerd I haven't watch the film "xmen days of future past" but you are correct in that they do that in the film. If Red Dwarf ever did anything like that, with Philip Labey being young Rimmer again, that would be an interesting episode. No idea who could play Young Lister.
Here's a video idea. How many times did the dwarfers have an opportunity to return to Earth, but for some reason didn't bother, and continued being marooned in deep space? Furthermore, they could have returned to Earth in their own time (ie 3 million years in the past) And even prevented the radiation leak in the first place! I can definitely think of a few examples!. Stasis Leak - They were arguing about who to bring back in stasis to survive the accident. But not once did they consider preventing the accident and savings hundreds of lives! Parallel Universe - Perhaps some more work on the Holly Hop Drive, could have got it doing what it was supposed to, rather than it jumping dimensions. Timeslides - The one episode where they at least attempted to! Meltdown - The light years quoted here for the matter paddle surely meant a few jumps and they'd be back on Earth. The Inquisitor - They could have used his gauntlet to go back and prevent the accident / go back to earth. Out of Time - We see the future selves going back in time and managing to travel where they want too. I guess they chose a life on the road so to speak Tikka to Ride - Why just go back to get a curry.. why not just go back to earth after the disaster of red dwarf and survive it.. or prevent the accident in the first place. Ouroboros - Showing they still have time and anywhere in space travel, they go back to put lister under the pool table... why not just go back!?!? Pete - Could the time wand have done something here? There maybe more but thats the few i can think of!
Yeah, that would be a great video to do! I'd also like to do a 'what year is it' looking at all the time jumps, stasis periods etc, to try and figure out what year The Promised Land was actually in.
@@RedDwarfNerd thats a great idea too! Because one plot of the promised land is that of course the dwarfers went into stasis a number of times since the events of Waiting for God, and yet Cats brother is of the correct age to the Cat. So that must be one hell of a coincidence that they also travelled whilst in stasis for the exact same amount of time the red dwarf crew did. The crazy thing is, there wasn't really a plot reason for Rodon to be Cats brother, other than for a gag about them kicking him out for not being cool enough. If they had omitted that, then the stasis problem wouldnt have been an issue as they would have just been people in the cat race.
@@RedDwarfNerd kryten mentions his exact age in Krysis and I think he mentions the year he was built when he was talking to the Psychiatrist in Back in the red so that should make it easier to work out
I don't think Rimmer would want to do the child body swap/possession for one reason, it would mean going through his childhood again, and I don't think that was a pleasant experience the first time around :/
That's a very fair point! Though you'd expect that with a 30 year olds mind he should of had a better time getting into the space core and making his parents happy!... mind you, he's failed the astro navs a bunch of times already, he'd probably just fail again! :-)
In theory they could have used the DNA machine to turn a tin of spam into a brain dead human body and transferred Rimmer's mind into it. How about they actually did achieve this?! At the end of Timeslides, Rimmer created an alternate history whereby they found the DNA machine sooner (He could have asked Holly to plot a different course) and that explains why he has a human body at the end before the explosion. So when they found the DNA machine the second time, Rimmer did try again but Holly purposefully sabotaged the attempt because she thought it would end just as badly, all over again.
I think the biggest stumbling for the machine's usage is the mistrust of Holly getting it right! I guess they just fixed Kryten then never touched it again for their own safety! :-)
Great video, albeit I don't think it constitutes murder doing a mindswap, the person Rimmer switches with would essentially end up as a hologram, and could be swapped back at anytime. And about the paradox, Lister already is a paradox, he is his own father and leaves his baby self under a pool table in a box of Ouroboros batteries.
True, but personally the thought of being just made of light and not able to touch sounds as bad as death to me! 😊 As for the Lister being his own father thing, thats strictly a Doug Dwarf thing which doesn't count until series 7. In fact the part finished script 'Dad' had Lister meet his original biological father back in 22nd century Liverpool!. 👍
If Rimmers neural map was on the ships hard drive (which it would have to be in order to produce a hologram of him complete with memories) then his DNA would also have been there. That ship with the DNA machine could have easily synthesized him a body via that information, no need for dandruff flakes.
The time travel body swap paradoxes are only challenging when we look at it in three dimensions but with the theroys like the multiverse, the paradoxes can be explained away with multiple timelines
Rimmer may have found a way in ‘Timeslides’ as he’s, briefly, alive at the end. ‘Rimmerworld’ is actually his most missed opportunity had he not run off but helped overcome the Simulant then they could have taken the DNA tech and with Kryten’s help grown a blank vessel.
Ha, yeah, that would have been ace - Rimmer with all his hang ups in the grinning guise of the most confident being ever created would have been amazing! 😂
Very true, that would have been the perfect donor body! Mind you, theres no way the Skutter's could have overpowered Ace, even if one of his arms was broken! 👍
if the ship is 3 million years old, how did Arnold find any DNA of himself i.e dandruff? My only answer to this, is that maybe lister had some on his clothing when he was put into stasis. This problem also applys to rimmer world... where did he manage to find a living, undamaged DNA cell that surived 3 million years in a radiation leak?
yeah, the dandruff is an odd one... mind you I could imagine that perhaps the bunks or bunk room was somehow sealed off and kept preserved perfectly for 3million years as holly knew he'd eventually be waking dave and arnold up? as for the cloning in rimmerworld, i think rimmers light bee must hold a digitized recording of his dna, which it uses to make his physical image so perfectly and even make him age convincingly. The cloning pod must have been able to read this digital version and make his clones from that... in fact, perhaps it not being organic dna was the reason he could never make a propper female clone... perhaps any female dna code was already deleated to save space on his light bees hard drive!
@@RedDwarfNerd i agree with all this accept one thing... he did technically make bioloical women they just looked an awful lot like rimmer "now avert your eyes from her great beauty"
There are no paradoxes with time travel involving parallel universes. I'm of the mind that if time travel is possible, it can ONLY be done through parallel universes.
Perhaps if Lister catched Pneumonia again after bodyswap then Rimmer could force lister to dream about him so a Rimmer could be created and put his mind in the Pneumonia rimmier.
That could work really well!... although, I guess the problem might be that the rimmer he dreamed up would have its own personality, so the Holo one would still be stuck without a body of his own.
Other possibilities = stasis leak rimmer, could have avoided the accident or had told hollister that the drive plate might fail. Could have inhabited the body of a polymorph or any alien, like a siren. The rimmerworld one doesn't make sense as the mind swap device is on red dwarf, not starbug.
Yeah, I did think of mentioning that the crew were only traveling on Starbug at the time of Rimmerworld, but thought that perhaps a mind swap was simple enough to maybe do with Starbugs equipment? A siren would certainly be an interesting choice, though Rimmer with shapeshifting abilities could be terrifying! :-) Warning Hollister would seem the most simple, I guess having recently had the Future Echoes episode, Rimmer probably believed the future couldn't be changed so didn't bother to try?
@@RedDwarfNerd Well if a mind swap was so easy to do on starbug, why did you never see the dwarfers use any of the other technologies they messed around with previously. Things like: Better Than Life, The Triplicator, Holly Hop Drive, Playing Pool with Planets, Giving Rimmer Memories, or Even a simple turning off Rimmer's Light Bee whenever they pleased (like in Wax World).
But Stasis leak uses a more Bill and Ted or Twelve Monkeys time travel rules where anything a time traveller does was always written into history so couldn't have changed anything later time travel episodes such as Timeslides seemed to follow more Back to the future rules where you could change the past
I suppose Rimmer could have also swapped with Legion, assuming he deactivated Kryten, leaving only himself conscious. However, he'd have to overcome his own worst qualities manifest, and he might retain the weird, involuntary mind and face-melding ability...which was done better in Holoship anyway with the mind patch.
I think a problem with Legion is that I dont think Legion could leave the space station he was on. Also, by that point Rimmer was hard light, so a body becomes far less important.
You said you need a "Mind" to transfer bodies. Hudson 10 is an android and doesn't have a mind, its a robot/computer (no mind). Waxdroid, same issue! If it worked with Droids Rimmer could have ordered Kritan to let him use his robot body
Well I'm presuming that Hudzen 10s brain is part organic, like Kryten's, and therefore counts as being able to sustain a human mind, like how in the recent episode 'Siliconia' the rest of the Dwarfers all got transfered into android bodies.
So would it be fair to say that we could add another time he could have resurrected himself by saying that he could have, at any point used Kritans body then ?
It's possible to put Rimmer's mind in a hologram, a completely immaterial substrate composed of light, (although what the hell is hard light?). Rimmer's mind is stored in code, tranferred from the main computer. On this basis I think it's likely transferring his mind to an android would't be much different , conceptually or practically, from the two other places it has existed in.
The putting your mind into your younger self, is along the lines of if only i knew then what i know now (though in the first instance you had to live your life to know what you know, so the second instance would give you a completely diferant path through life, which sets up the thrid instance of doing it all again which hurts my head thinking about it. On the subject of Paradox's I have a suggestion fo a future Vid. Lister being his own father. I believe life is circular and not a straight line, this being said there has to have been an original Lister that didnt originate under a pool table, somewhere along the line as such Lister became his own father and set up that holding pattern of human race never going extinct. so Have we been watching the (for sake of argument) Second Lister all along or was there a point where we witness the paradox occur. Ive watched RD all seasons at least 3 times and not had this thought in my head. I know its probably not even a consideration until they thought of the episode, but synchronicity and imagination might provide plausible clues in early episodes or even later.
I think its a tough one to answer, but your right, it should probably be a vid. It's a funny think that Lister being his own father feels like a big, well engrained part of the shows lore now, however it only really got established in Ouroborus in series 7, which is quite late when I think about it. BEfore then we knew he was abandoned, and there is even that unfinished script 'dad' which had Lister go back in time to meet his real life 'normal' father. It's certainly a very interesting part of Red Dwarf lore.
I like the idea that Lister gets more and more degenerate / inbred each "cycle" - and that the original version was very different to the one we've been watching all this time. Almost like the American version of the character in that failed pilot.
Rimmer did restore himself to life in Timeslides. Somehow. For about 10 seconds, anyway. The interesting one for me is in Stasis Leak, if he actually does talk his past self into the second stasis pod. With Rimmer and Lister in the pods, who works on the drive plate? Someone more competent, by definition. Does that then save the entire crew?
That mindbender is a topic for a whole different video! - though I have often wondered if the hard light lightbee somehow contains a copy of Rimmers dna in order to function? Thats the best I can come up with!
DNA is an algorythmics dot dash of sequencing, assuming that in the future that sequence is properly mapped, there is no reason if you have the organic material Carbon water etc that you couldnt assempble a DNA strand to replicate into the image of Rimmer. He had seeding technology which would essentialy contain the mapped sequences to terra form a world. Its a strech to try n fill all the blanks. But except for the Rimmer pattern no one questions too much the terra forming bit, as its established Sci Fi lore.
@@otakarkuby3926 Algorithms are named after the medieval mathematician al-Kharizmi. Fibonacci originally called them "algorismi" or algorisms. They are finite lists of precise, unambiguous, and also finite steps, typically for doing mathematical computations such as long division or taking the cubic root of a polynomial, and were originally recorded in the form of poems. Algorithms can be completed in finite time. DNA, desoxyribonucleic acid, are very long aperiodic molecules composed of four base molecules, each of which is a complement to another. Each codon is composed of a triplet of base pairs. Some codons mark the start of a sequence, others the stop, and most others one specific base molecule. DNA strands are split, recombined, copied, and interpreted by specific enzymes which are assembled from the instructions encoded in the DNA, subject to metagenetic markers and environmental conditions, including the presence or absence of specific enzymes. Life is successful as long as it doesn't stop self-replicating, which DNA has been doing incessantly for three thousand milion years now.
Perhaps, though I think it's worth remembering that the second Kochanski (Chloe Annette) was from an alternative reality/dimension, so she could have been from a reality where she was her own mother, whereas the original Claire Grogan version likely had regular parents.
@@RedDwarfNerd could be the same thing as Lister actually having a father in the original Timeslides script something. I just thought it would be a funny twist on the grandfather paradox.
@@VinluvAntonHandesbukia It's not impossible, although I think I need to research it a bit more. TBH I think it could be a very deep rabbit hole wondering if being their own parents would mean that there baby's would have no new DNA, resulting in a the baby's always being either a male or female clone of the parent... which I suppose is exactly what Lister is!
@@RedDwarfNerd it came to be because during the “smeghead’s guide series” they hypothesized that every time Lister is “reborn” he has more and more Kochanski DNA,which I found quite ludicrous. See as that even if Dave “lost the race” another alternative form of himself would’ve found a slightly different way to survive to become the “last human” and keep the human race “existing” wether it be his own birth,Rimmerworlds,or nanobot resurrections.
Rimmer swapping minds with his younger self is a very twisted version of the grandfather paradox.
Yeah, it's certainly odd, though didn't one of the Xmen films do that kind of thing a few years ago with the wolverine bloke?
@@RedDwarfNerd I haven't watch the film "xmen days of future past" but you are correct in that they do that in the film. If Red Dwarf ever did anything like that, with Philip Labey being young Rimmer again, that would be an interesting episode. No idea who could play Young Lister.
Here's a video idea.
How many times did the dwarfers have an opportunity to return to Earth, but for some reason didn't bother, and continued being marooned in deep space?
Furthermore, they could have returned to Earth in their own time (ie 3 million years in the past)
And even prevented the radiation leak in the first place!
I can definitely think of a few examples!.
Stasis Leak - They were arguing about who to bring back in stasis to survive the accident. But not once did they consider preventing the accident and savings hundreds of lives!
Parallel Universe - Perhaps some more work on the Holly Hop Drive, could have got it doing what it was supposed to, rather than it jumping dimensions.
Timeslides - The one episode where they at least attempted to!
Meltdown - The light years quoted here for the matter paddle surely meant a few jumps and they'd be back on Earth.
The Inquisitor - They could have used his gauntlet to go back and prevent the accident / go back to earth.
Out of Time - We see the future selves going back in time and managing to travel where they want too. I guess they chose a life on the road so to speak
Tikka to Ride - Why just go back to get a curry.. why not just go back to earth after the disaster of red dwarf and survive it.. or prevent the accident in the first place.
Ouroboros - Showing they still have time and anywhere in space travel, they go back to put lister under the pool table... why not just go back!?!?
Pete - Could the time wand have done something here?
There maybe more but thats the few i can think of!
Yeah, that would be a great video to do! I'd also like to do a 'what year is it' looking at all the time jumps, stasis periods etc, to try and figure out what year The Promised Land was actually in.
@@RedDwarfNerd thats a great idea too! Because one plot of the promised land is that of course the dwarfers went into stasis a number of times since the events of Waiting for God, and yet Cats brother is of the correct age to the Cat. So that must be one hell of a coincidence that they also travelled whilst in stasis for the exact same amount of time the red dwarf crew did. The crazy thing is, there wasn't really a plot reason for Rodon to be Cats brother, other than for a gag about them kicking him out for not being cool enough. If they had omitted that, then the stasis problem wouldnt have been an issue as they would have just been people in the cat race.
@@RedDwarfNerd kryten mentions his exact age in Krysis and I think he mentions the year he was built when he was talking to the Psychiatrist in Back in the red so that should make it easier to work out
I don't think Rimmer would want to do the child body swap/possession for one reason, it would mean going through his childhood again, and I don't think that was a pleasant experience the first time around :/
That's a very fair point! Though you'd expect that with a 30 year olds mind he should of had a better time getting into the space core and making his parents happy!... mind you, he's failed the astro navs a bunch of times already, he'd probably just fail again! :-)
In theory they could have used the DNA machine to turn a tin of spam into a brain dead human body and transferred Rimmer's mind into it. How about they actually did achieve this?! At the end of Timeslides, Rimmer created an alternate history whereby they found the DNA machine sooner (He could have asked Holly to plot a different course) and that explains why he has a human body at the end before the explosion. So when they found the DNA machine the second time, Rimmer did try again but Holly purposefully sabotaged the attempt because she thought it would end just as badly, all over again.
I think the biggest stumbling for the machine's usage is the mistrust of Holly getting it right! I guess they just fixed Kryten then never touched it again for their own safety! :-)
That Timeslides ending was absolutely hilarious and a standout moment in the whole show... Such a smeghead 🤣
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Great video, albeit I don't think it constitutes murder doing a mindswap, the person Rimmer switches with would essentially end up as a hologram, and could be swapped back at anytime.
And about the paradox, Lister already is a paradox, he is his own father and leaves his baby self under a pool table in a box of Ouroboros batteries.
True, but personally the thought of being just made of light and not able to touch sounds as bad as death to me! 😊 As for the Lister being his own father thing, thats strictly a Doug Dwarf thing which doesn't count until series 7. In fact the part finished script 'Dad' had Lister meet his original biological father back in 22nd century Liverpool!. 👍
@@RedDwarfNerd did he call him old and cryptofascist? :P
Great watch keep up the good work us Dwafers need to stick together I'll watch any thing on old iron balls lol 😆
Ha, yeah, Rimmer really does 'make' Red Dwarf for so many fans! 👍😊
If Rimmers neural map was on the ships hard drive (which it would have to be in order to produce a hologram of him complete with memories) then his DNA would also have been there. That ship with the DNA machine could have easily synthesized him a body via that information, no need for dandruff flakes.
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The time travel body swap paradoxes are only challenging when we look at it in three dimensions but with the theroys like the multiverse, the paradoxes can be explained away with multiple timelines
Thats a good point! If the writers wanted to do it then the paradox's cold easily be handwaved away!
Rimmer may have found a way in ‘Timeslides’ as he’s, briefly, alive at the end.
‘Rimmerworld’ is actually his most missed opportunity had he not run off but helped overcome the Simulant then they could have taken the DNA tech and with Kryten’s help grown a blank vessel.
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It was earlier than the tech was introduced but I think the perfect body for Rimmer is listers paranoia from Confidence and Paranoia 😂
Ha, yeah, that would have been ace - Rimmer with all his hang ups in the grinning guise of the most confident being ever created would have been amazing! 😂
I liked Bodyswap. I was 9 when it was on TV and i still like watching it now
do you think Kochanski is also her own mother? That would make the family tree a wreath!
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@@RedDwarfNerd also sorry about the double post. Went through a white hole.
@@VinluvAntonHandesbukia That was really odd, CZcams put my reply to you as being the same as your post, really odd, dont know what happened there!?
He could have stolen Ace Rimmer's body if he had wanted, but Ace and the gang probably wouldn’t have let him get away with something like that.
Very true, that would have been the perfect donor body! Mind you, theres no way the Skutter's could have overpowered Ace, even if one of his arms was broken! 👍
Rimmer came back because *I* love him so much. You're welcome everyone.
Ha, yeah! He is the worlds best 'guy we love to hate' :-)
You could have found a picture from a ship was about to explode. Take a person that is about to be atomised steal their body.
That thumbnail! 👍👍
ha, cheers!
How wonderful! I loved this show so much!
There is so much love for Red Dwarf, the community is brilliant!
if the ship is 3 million years old, how did Arnold find any DNA of himself i.e dandruff? My only answer to this, is that maybe lister had some on his clothing when he was put into stasis. This problem also applys to rimmer world... where did he manage to find a living, undamaged DNA cell that surived 3 million years in a radiation leak?
yeah, the dandruff is an odd one... mind you I could imagine that perhaps the bunks or bunk room was somehow sealed off and kept preserved perfectly for 3million years as holly knew he'd eventually be waking dave and arnold up? as for the cloning in rimmerworld, i think rimmers light bee must hold a digitized recording of his dna, which it uses to make his physical image so perfectly and even make him age convincingly. The cloning pod must have been able to read this digital version and make his clones from that... in fact, perhaps it not being organic dna was the reason he could never make a propper female clone... perhaps any female dna code was already deleated to save space on his light bees hard drive!
@@RedDwarfNerd i agree with all this accept one thing... he did technically make bioloical women they just looked an awful lot like rimmer "now avert your eyes from her great beauty"
There are no paradoxes with time travel involving parallel universes. I'm of the mind that if time travel is possible, it can ONLY be done through parallel universes.
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Perhaps if Lister catched Pneumonia again after bodyswap then Rimmer could force lister to dream about him so a Rimmer could be created and put his mind in the Pneumonia rimmier.
That could work really well!... although, I guess the problem might be that the rimmer he dreamed up would have its own personality, so the Holo one would still be stuck without a body of his own.
@@RedDwarfNerd Yeah that's a fair point 😄
Other possibilities = stasis leak rimmer, could have avoided the accident or had told hollister that the drive plate might fail. Could have inhabited the body of a polymorph or any alien, like a siren. The rimmerworld one doesn't make sense as the mind swap device is on red dwarf, not starbug.
Yeah, I did think of mentioning that the crew were only traveling on Starbug at the time of Rimmerworld, but thought that perhaps a mind swap was simple enough to maybe do with Starbugs equipment? A siren would certainly be an interesting choice, though Rimmer with shapeshifting abilities could be terrifying! :-) Warning Hollister would seem the most simple, I guess having recently had the Future Echoes episode, Rimmer probably believed the future couldn't be changed so didn't bother to try?
@@RedDwarfNerd Well if a mind swap was so easy to do on starbug, why did you never see the dwarfers use any of the other technologies they messed around with previously. Things like: Better Than Life, The Triplicator, Holly Hop Drive, Playing Pool with Planets, Giving Rimmer Memories, or Even a simple turning off Rimmer's Light Bee whenever they pleased (like in Wax World).
But Stasis leak uses a more Bill and Ted or Twelve Monkeys time travel rules where anything a time traveller does was always written into history so couldn't have changed anything later time travel episodes such as Timeslides seemed to follow more Back to the future rules where you could change the past
By the time of Rimmerworld he had his Hard Light Drive which, let's be honest, is kind of better than being flesh and blood anyway.
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I suppose Rimmer could have also swapped with Legion, assuming he deactivated Kryten, leaving only himself conscious. However, he'd have to overcome his own worst qualities manifest, and he might retain the weird, involuntary mind and face-melding ability...which was done better in Holoship anyway with the mind patch.
I think a problem with Legion is that I dont think Legion could leave the space station he was on. Also, by that point Rimmer was hard light, so a body becomes far less important.
Wonderful vid man. Great ideas and great words.
Thanks so much, hopefully I can find the time for more theory fun soon!
I think the wax body is too risky.
Never thought I'd say that before.
Ha, yeah, first time he got too near a hot engine in the diesel deck he would have melted! :-)
@@RedDwarfNerd no more hiking holidays for old wax balls
You said you need a "Mind" to transfer bodies. Hudson 10 is an android and doesn't have a mind, its a robot/computer (no mind). Waxdroid, same issue! If it worked with Droids Rimmer could have ordered Kritan to let him use his robot body
Well I'm presuming that Hudzen 10s brain is part organic, like Kryten's, and therefore counts as being able to sustain a human mind, like how in the recent episode 'Siliconia' the rest of the Dwarfers all got transfered into android bodies.
@@RedDwarfNerd I stand corrected :) I didn't think of that haha
So would it be fair to say that we could add another time he could have resurrected himself by saying that he could have, at any point used Kritans body then ?
But androids seem to have consciousness in Red Dwarf anything with consciousness has a mind by definition
It's possible to put Rimmer's mind in a hologram, a completely immaterial substrate composed of light, (although what the hell is hard light?). Rimmer's mind is stored in code, tranferred from the main computer. On this basis I think it's likely transferring his mind to an android would't be much different , conceptually or practically, from the two other places it has existed in.
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@@RedDwarfNerd aup buddy! Glad to see another upload.
The putting your mind into your younger self, is along the lines of if only i knew then what i know now (though in the first instance you had to live your life to know what you know, so the second instance would give you a completely diferant path through life, which sets up the thrid instance of doing it all again which hurts my head thinking about it.
On the subject of Paradox's I have a suggestion fo a future Vid.
Lister being his own father. I believe life is circular and not a straight line, this being said there has to have been an original Lister that didnt originate under a pool table, somewhere along the line as such Lister became his own father and set up that holding pattern of human race never going extinct. so Have we been watching the (for sake of argument) Second Lister all along or was there a point where we witness the paradox occur. Ive watched RD all seasons at least 3 times and not had this thought in my head. I know its probably not even a consideration until they thought of the episode, but synchronicity and imagination might provide plausible clues in early episodes or even later.
I think its a tough one to answer, but your right, it should probably be a vid. It's a funny think that Lister being his own father feels like a big, well engrained part of the shows lore now, however it only really got established in Ouroborus in series 7, which is quite late when I think about it. BEfore then we knew he was abandoned, and there is even that unfinished script 'dad' which had Lister go back in time to meet his real life 'normal' father. It's certainly a very interesting part of Red Dwarf lore.
I like the idea that Lister gets more and more degenerate / inbred each "cycle" - and that the original version was very different to the one we've been watching all this time.
Almost like the American version of the character in that failed pilot.
Rimmer did restore himself to life in Timeslides. Somehow. For about 10 seconds, anyway.
The interesting one for me is in Stasis Leak, if he actually does talk his past self into the second stasis pod. With Rimmer and Lister in the pods, who works on the drive plate? Someone more competent, by definition. Does that then save the entire crew?
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ha, yeah, Skipper had plenty of times when he could have just stayed as a living human!
Where did Rimmer get the DNA from in Rimmerworld?
That mindbender is a topic for a whole different video! - though I have often wondered if the hard light lightbee somehow contains a copy of Rimmers dna in order to function? Thats the best I can come up with!
@@RedDwarfNerd Well, that would be an explanation.
DNA is an algorythmics dot dash of sequencing, assuming that in the future that sequence is properly mapped, there is no reason if you have the organic material Carbon water etc that you couldnt assempble a DNA strand to replicate into the image of Rimmer. He had seeding technology which would essentialy contain the mapped sequences to terra form a world. Its a strech to try n fill all the blanks. But except for the Rimmer pattern no one questions too much the terra forming bit, as its established Sci Fi lore.
@@otakarkuby3926 Algorithms are named after the medieval mathematician al-Kharizmi. Fibonacci originally called them "algorismi" or algorisms. They are finite lists of precise, unambiguous, and also finite steps, typically for doing mathematical computations such as long division or taking the cubic root of a polynomial, and were originally recorded in the form of poems. Algorithms can be completed in finite time.
DNA, desoxyribonucleic acid, are very long aperiodic molecules composed of four base molecules, each of which is a complement to another. Each codon is composed of a triplet of base pairs. Some codons mark the start of a sequence, others the stop, and most others one specific base molecule. DNA strands are split, recombined, copied, and interpreted by specific enzymes which are assembled from the instructions encoded in the DNA, subject to metagenetic markers and environmental conditions, including the presence or absence of specific enzymes. Life is successful as long as it doesn't stop self-replicating, which DNA has been doing incessantly for three thousand milion years now.
What about 'Backwards'?
The problem there is Backwards came before the episode Bodyswap, so Rimmer wouldn't have known about the mind swap technique.
@@RedDwarfNerd I suppose so. I don't remember hearing of how they came across it in 'Bodyswap' though. I'll have to watch them all again! 😊
Krytens nanobots could make a brainless clone of rimmer theoretically
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do you think Kochanski is also her own mother? That would make the family tree a wreath!
That’s definitely what the episode Ouroboros implies
Perhaps, though I think it's worth remembering that the second Kochanski (Chloe Annette) was from an alternative reality/dimension, so she could have been from a reality where she was her own mother, whereas the original Claire Grogan version likely had regular parents.
@@RedDwarfNerd could be the same thing as Lister actually having a father in the original Timeslides script something. I just thought it would be a funny twist on the grandfather paradox.
@@VinluvAntonHandesbukia It's not impossible, although I think I need to research it a bit more. TBH I think it could be a very deep rabbit hole wondering if being their own parents would mean that there baby's would have no new DNA, resulting in a the baby's always being either a male or female clone of the parent... which I suppose is exactly what Lister is!
@@RedDwarfNerd it came to be because during the “smeghead’s guide series” they hypothesized that every time Lister is “reborn” he has more and more Kochanski DNA,which I found quite ludicrous. See as that even if Dave “lost the race” another alternative form of himself would’ve found a slightly different way to survive to become the “last human” and keep the human race “existing” wether it be his own birth,Rimmerworlds,or nanobot resurrections.