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Plastic knuckle dusters and the "Spikey" vs. zombie head from ZGB
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2024
- Quite a bit of damage... just not the way I had hoped.
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There's a reason brass knuckles are made out of brass.
but illegal in Canada.
Arbhall McDougall That's beside the point.
kokofan50 Not to a Canadian it isnt. The whole point is using something legal here, that actually works.
actually more modern ones are made out of steel.
Yeah, I guess we need some chemists or something to help us with our knuckleduster plastic here in Canada.
Probably lucky you guys didn't slice open your hands with those cheap dusters
i bought one and did my own testing as well. They break square, not very sharp at all. the real upside us the shattering plastic acts as a dampener. Even if you smash a tree with all your might, you dont feel a thing
just looks like rolling dice to me. reading some horror stories below. I'm glad I'm not in the punching trees business :)
It wouldnt be that unlucky. Just a cut on the quickest healing part of your body.
-.- Hitting trees hurt. And its not a smart thing to do. >.> I got experience. xD Raged out and hit a tree about 10 times. Lucky me im not all that strong so I only got a bad swelling for a week.
they are talking about hitting trees with knuckle dusters. not your bare hand...
You get it wrong. They are HESSK - High explosive single shot knuckles.
Slab King/Brick would approve.
I still want bolted knuckles like he has
Now I wonder if a shaped charge on an armored glove would work.
a very small one focused on a single point might, to big & you would break your own bones to spread with a small charge wouldn't help.
blackdeath4eternity p
Gotta love how metal dusters are banned because they're 'too dangerous', but if you ever fought someone with these plastic ones you'd end up injuring yourself or perhaps even them with broken, sharp plastic.
Nice one Government.
So, Skall, now you see why THOSE knuckledusters are legal in Canada? :D
Hey, wooden knuckledusters are legal too. :) Proper hardwood would do a lot better.
They legalized them hoping that criminals will break their hands with them. Brilliant!
Ironwood knuckleduster anyone?
Cocobolo knuckledusters. Lined with shark teeth. Come on, guys, unleash your imagination.
What about a role of coins. Actually I think a screw driver might work better.
On the test with the Spikey, I could actually see the shock going through your arm on the high-speed. It looked as painful as you said.
Probably don't need to full force pinch with it.
In conclusion:
The plastic "weapons" were useless... No shit.
The Spikey fractured the zombie skull, and it was made of plastic
Creature Plays Games Yes, and it also injures the users hand.
A weapon that injures it's user after every strike is useless. Defeats the whole purpose.
Besides, being limited to use only hammer fist is very limiting. Then you might as well use one of those batons made of metal that you hold in the hand and use with that technique. Don't remember what they are called but they are legal in Canada as far as I know.
Yes, but it wasn't useless. Even the plastic knuckles weren't useless, as they'd be a decent deterrent to an attacker
Creature Plays Games They are useless as a self defense weapon since pretty much any other real weapon can be used with more effectivness, and even a lot of things that aren't even weapons work better.
*****
A weapon that is worse than pretty much all other weapons in every way IS useless. Also, what good is a self defense weapon that breaks after the first strike? Then you might as well use a better weapon that actually will last?
What do you mean where I got it from? He said it himself, that it really hurt his wrist and that he might see it causing serious injury after a couple of strikes.
A self defense weapon that breaks after the first strike, and also causes pain to the person it is supposed to protect IS useless. It might get you killed instead. It's much better to use a weapon that actually works.
Skall must be really fucking tough if he considers cracking skulls as "reasonably effective"
just a flesh wound . . .
Compare that to the damage of using an actually good weapon, which shatters the entire skull, or cuts it in half.
Please do tell me where I can find knuckles that would cut someone's skull in half or at the very least shatters the whole of it.
Or did you mean any weapon? But if so, why limit yourself to melee weapons? Go big!
"Compare that to the damage of Tsar Bomb, which shatters whole countries, or cuts them in half."
There, I fixed it for you.
If you'd like to be fair about it, compare it to other melee weapons you can conceal on your person. Such as a good knife, or extendable baton.
But why not comparing plastic knuckles to metal ones? Otherwise you could compare them to anything you can conceal, like a gun, for example, or even a glass bottle of soda, which you can break and use as a shiv.
Now, if we actually do compare plastic ones to metal ones, you won't do much more damage in a single blow with metal knuckles compared to plastic ones. And honestly, if you whacked someone in the head hard enough to break your plastic knuckles, he's not going to be causing you any problems any more. With the only downside being the loss of your knuckles, hence the key word "reasonably". Also, if you carry them for self defence, you won't need to use them very often. So having them as one-use item, provided you actually do connect a powerful hit to the head, but with advantage of being perfectly legal to carry (as far as the law is concerned in Canada) seems to be rather reasonably cost effective as well.
Great tests Skal, I really thought the plastic knuckles would have held up better than that.
Yeah, me too.
I didn't, plastic is very dense and unless they form it the right way it usually breaks easily if substantial force is used. If you wanted an alternative to plastic than polymer would definitely do the trick. But I'm unsure if they actually make polymer knuckles.
Polymer is a much vaguer term than plastic. A plastic is a type of synthesized polymer, namely with the characteristic of plasticity.
try PE500 or PE1000, that's not something you just crack
Exactly, it's like saying, "as an alternative to steel, use metal knuckles", doesn't make much sense right xD
Maybe he meant composite?
So, what about armor gloves?
i would like to see them in action too
sounds like a waste of gauntlets.
especially the plate mail kind.
those things a pretty expensive
+Gerard Mourits I think he meant hard knuckled tactical gloves, like a pair of Oakley ones
acanuck4life oh right, that does make sense
i actually he think he's talking about ones he got recently, he said he wanted to try them on a zombie head and/or helmet.
You know they're lying about that "same density as a human head" bullshit, right? The guys from Zombiegoboom are just some random dudes who make those things out of cheap PVC and foam-rubber in their bathtub and say that it's like a real skull, when in reality; if you've ever seen a pig skull being smashed or any other kind or real flesh or bone being sliced or bludgeoned you'd know that it reacts VERY differently to the way these supposedly 'anatomically correct' heads behave. It's just a marketing gimmick to fool suckers into paying $300 for some cheap fake zombie heads.
Damn right my nigga them whiteboys be sellin some bullshit
I've seen people using dead animals (mostly pigs)
For cutting tests that's as close to a living human being as you'll get
Pig heads are really a butt ton thicker than ours... just saying.
And their cranial construction is rather elongated as well. But yeah, I do agree there's probably no way that's similar to a real human head.
Certainly not impossible just not cost-effective.
Fake zombie heads? i dont think that real ones exist !
2:05
"yeah my hand's fine."
that shirt is damn fine too!
Remind me to NEVER mess with Skall's Squad.
It seems most of us would lose an epic beard contest as well as a fight.
NEVER mess with Skall's squad.
He hits his enemies with his beard stunning them the he will end them rightly
Thank you Bruttah 👍🏻
the hardest thing about it all is to have a reason to mess with them xD
as they are not in any way offensive.
Plastic breaking is dangerous.
Way back when I was younger I bought one of those hand training things made of plastic. Very first time I squeezed it one of the handles broke and left a stump in a pointy shape with sharp edges. Since it was no longer held by the detached handle in my hand, the stump proceeded to scrape along my hand, cut the "empty" skin between the index finger and the thumb and left a fairly deep and jagged cut all over that area.
Not pleasant at all. Took me a while before I felt like trying hand trainers again and when I did I got a much higher quality one with a different mechanism which I still have. Even if it breaks, it will do so in a different spot away from my hands, not the handles.
that's fucked, I'd have sued
This one you had was entirely made out of plastic or did it have those springs. I broke several of those, even taking the utmost care to never touch the springs
AlexEinherjar It had a "metal coil" attached to two plastic handles.
I'm not sure if "spring" is still the right word for that? It's a metal tube that circled on itself several times and with the handles created a "V" shape.
The new one I have now has an "A" shape and has an actual spring.
Yeah, it's a coil actually. English isn't my first language, so I confused the words. I bought one of those ProHands exercisers, they're great, if you have an opportunity, I think you should give them a try. I need to buy one of those like you have to get a more complete training.
Skallagrim.
Every time you post a video with violence, even if it's only against a Zombie Head, we are entertained. You'll never have to worry about that :P
so basically those dusters arent worth a dam?
Pretty much. Novelty items only.
I wonder if high density polyethylene would work better. I have some raw material of that stuff around.
^ yeah they would be a lot better. With my cold steel trainers I've broken many bricks, rocks and even bashed through small trees with only surface damage.
Plastic ones? no.
Or fiber-reinforced plastic (nylon). From the way these fractured, it looked almost like they were made of straight ABS or something...
An iron knuckle works like a revolver. When you run out of ammo, just throw the darn thing.
Pommel would be more effective when thrown.
Phoenix Starfyre
You're not gonna use a knuckle duster if you have a longsword
You want to stop an stacker, not kill him...
Attacker*
Phoenix Starfyre
you know you can edit your comments, right?
Yeah, you can really see that impact going up your arm with the spiky hammerfist, yikes!
yep, i realized the same thing on first glance, his arm whip like crazy because of the impact.
to be fair though, the guy he hit with it would have died
ihave2cows no he’d love, probably knocked out and in a lot of pain but still alive
@@boygenius538_8 With a cracked skull? He's probably gonna have brain damage.
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i'm really glad yall didn't get any injuries from the broken plastic, i've been waiting a while for this video
As teenagers, we just used a roll of nickels. It reinforced the hand nicely. Could hit a tree nearly full force with that, and it adds momentum too.
I also modified my keychain to make 4 rings with keys protruding between each finger. Comfortable and mean, but I wouldn't hit a hard surface with it - the keys would get driven into my hand. Save that for body shots and facial lacerations.
Latest canadian news: Plastic is banned
The durability could be a reason why plastic knuckle dusters are allowed while metal ones are banned
Although the ability to use it even once could be considered ban-worthy
Heyy, Disturbed shirt! You've got good taste, Skall.
Given your profile picture, I should say the same to you.
indeed he does!
Is it magma?
lol, i had to go back and have a look. good eye
Always remeber:
Dont drink from the cactus even though it's really quenchy.
I have a boxer's fracture on my right hand. Learning how to properly throw a punch by studying traditional Japanese Jiujitsu, which is meant to be mainly anti armor combat oriented martial art, taught me how to properly throw a punch, stepping in, and twisting your arm so it's rigid and also orients your striking knuckles properly forward. I also have floppy wrists, so a lot of the training I focused on was to practice proper technique against a 235lb heavy bag. I should have used my wrist wraps if I was going to do it without a padded gauntlet or mma gloves which I had, but it was more important to learn how to tense up the critical areas in the strike to prevent injury. Using knuckles might be preferable for me since I favor the tiger paw strike
Jiu Jitsu is a wrestling art, not a striking art. I don't know why you think that would be a good place to learn how to punch. If you have flippy wrists you need to start punching the heavy bag without gloves. Condition and strengthen your wrists is very important.
The thing is that none of these things has a pommel : /
you're punching technique is really of, you have to go straighter.
It looks like you're throwing "movie"-punches
You know that was a hook, right?
***** well then it wasn't a proper hook, you have to keep it more compact or your defense is vulnerable for a little too long.
Maher Baba
Fair enough.
No worries, I get that. It's two very different types of punches though.
+Maher Baba I dont think you know what you're talking about. That was very obviously a hook, and there wasn't anything wrong with the form of it. It was so obviously a hook and not a straight that I'm now positive that you don't have the slightest clue about what you're talking about.
Skallagrim: *hits dummy on the hardest part of the head*
Also Skallagrim: it was surprisingly painful, I kinda hurt my wrist.
Well no shit!
But you gotta admit the spikey had a good Hit omg .....those ZGB heads he was using are the same Density as Real human skull and one hit Broke into the skull
Christina Savannah his form could use some work
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So...those knuckle dusters are made for the sole purpose of punching things, but can't handle the stress of punching things. Good. Good idea.
@Skallagrim can you make a video covering the physical training (apart from combat training) of the warriors of the past? Did they even lift? Love the channel.
Hey there is actually a video about this!
czcams.com/video/Fa2irrYK09w/video.html
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Going for runs in full armor 100%
"You couldn't do that with just your fist" Speak for yourself Skall :P
Now I know why Plastic Brass Knuckles are legal in Canada....
For you who comment on punching technique; this is knuckle dusters.. which is most often used by people who never studied any type of martial arts in the first place. Skallagrims testing is more than valid since it's for the sake of durability. Stop being annoying.
Wow, those plastic knuckles are so disappointing.
Glad I have knuckles made of metal then
Surgery?
no he is wolverine ;)
u mean knuckle dusters?
The Wabbajackle
Brass Knuckles*
SuperCliffBurton cxizjxklls
Relieved to see your arm and shoulder have healed!
damn, that "spikey", for how ridiculous it could sound, is great
Kinda disappointed you didn't try punching with your brand-new steel gauntlet!
It may not be practical self-defense, but who wouldn't want to see that...
Also, the flesh-colored fake "flesh" freaks me out a bit (especially digging into it).
Indeed, he mentioned wanting to try it out on an ivan head. Maybe for a different video?
Patience, we have a looooot of footage to go through and edit for you :)
Cara the Rat :D
A product with a fake carbon look is always bad.
3:20 Surgeongrim
Properly transferring the force more directly to the brain is far more effective than busting holes in the skull. Been there and experienced that.
Pleasantly surprised at how good y'alls punching form was. Balanced, and controlled.
The Israeli product interfered with a camera. Typical!
whats israeli here?
15 shekels have been deducted from your account
Just your average Jew passing by rigging the golden globes!
Ps I’m Jewish and thassa funny joke from the op
Eeeewwww, Jews
OY VEY ITS JUST LIKE ANUDDAH SHOAH
Im interested to see how the model holds up against elbow or knee based strikes. they are certainly strong enough to dent the skull as we have seen in recent MMA fights (very unfortunatley).....
"That's how injuries happen." I want that on a T-shirt.
When I was shown how to use these, I was told not to over commit by throwing big straight shots, which are likely to cause you some pain even with a well designed unit. I was told the concentrated impact would be felt even with a short jab, and that it was better to deliver a rapid succession of short blows with a bent arm, in a kind of pawing motion, like knocking on a door. It allows better control and dexterity to avoid getting your arm caught (if your opponent hasn’t fled, he’ll be focused on neutralising that arm and what you have in your hand.)
Thank you for sharing this. If you're interested, could you give us the same test with Defiant's (real) carbon fiber? Also, I would be interested to see lexan knuckles on here. :) Thanks again for the videos thus far.
Always punch to the jaw when you go for the head.
Doesn't make sense with this zombie head because it's a solid piece without jaw articulation, so much sturdier.
***** Ah I see, but I mean when you're punching an actual head if you get in a fight.
+Nohb'dy 11 ... The temple is a good target as well. Slaps or palm strikes to the back of the head (occipital) are also effective.
Chaos Omega I'm not a fan of trying to punch the temple or bridge of the nose(some people recommend that as well) because there's a very small margin of error before you hit a hard part of the skull which is likely to happen if the other person winces reflexively before impact. Palms and elbows behind the ear are good as well though
The nose I would avoid. But if you can do Russian "casting" style hook punches, the temple is a more viable target (hitting it with the first one or two knuckles and having the pinkie facing upward.) Harder to break your hand that way.
Oh wow, I didn't expect that kind of performance from the knuckles at all, but they are completely exposed now. Like someone else said, now I know why they're legal. Complete novelty, just look cool!
Oh man I have been waiting forever too see what these plastic knuckle dusters can do finally!!!
Does a falcon punch work with them?
I would like to see this test with wooden knuckles
I'd suggest plywood with a thick coat of epoxy
+Dāvis Zaķis id sugest mahogany
fucking iron wood
Ironwood is the hardest, lignum vitae is the densest... Which property would be better for knuckledusters?
I researched ironwood, there isn't just one type. Lignum vitae is itself an ironwood. The hardest is called Australian Buloke. The second hardest is called Quebracho (which comes from the Spanish phrase, meaning "axe breaker.")
Knuckle push-ups and knuckle planking help to build the arms, fingers and wrists stronger and more resistance to hits. I have done that for several years and my hand are in good condition.
I guarantee you dorks used to carry around Chinese throwing stars in jr high
I would carry a cannon around
cool intro :)
i guess that's why they don't mind if you have plastic knuckle dusters
Made from lexan, they work just fine
love the new intro 😊
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the blue plastic duster only didn't break cause of having a more triangular shape. it also acted like a wedge. love the vid and keep up the great work with editing them.
Skall gana be ufc heavyweight champ with those punching skills
I only know the basics of unarmed martial arts. My form could be a lot better.
+Skallagrim when you punch swing straight not a curve less power but with those sucky knuckles you might been cut
tyler kane
Hooks are perfectly viable.
+Skallagrim yea you are probably right
Skallagrim hooks are good but a straight punch can hut it's as hard maybe a little weaker but it is quicker and harder to stop
who tf punches someone in their temple
bhris it's the easiest way to knock someone out cold
Sticky Notes dude what u talking bout... The chin man the chin
Sota The chin doesn't have thick blood vessels and isn't one of the thinnest parts of the skull.
I will concede, however, that punching the chin can easily knock the wind out of someone.
You don't want to hit the chin either. You want to hit them in the jaw, just below the ear, that's the knockout button.
You nerds have obviously never boxed.. The chin is the "button"
Knucks are supposed to be used on the segment of your fingers below the segment you used. The discomfort is the result of your technique.
glad to hear you are still with kara
Use heavy slaps and palm strikes, it's just as effective and you can hit as hard as you like, almost without any chance of seriously damaging your hands.
Laugh at slaps if you want, it just proves you've never been slapped hard lol, they knock the shit out of you.
Agreed on the effectiveness of the palm strikes, although you could mess up your wrist...
Jason Doe Even when I wasn't good at it, I never hurt myself by using my palm, but punching wrong *still* hurts to this day. I never wrap my hands though as I doubt I'll ever get into a battle where I can wrap my hands first.
If memory serves, the French actually developed a hand-to-hand fighting style completely without punching, so it's a real thing, though "Fight like a Frenchman" is probably the least effective sales pitch I can imagine that isn't an outright joke.
I'm the one between the two of us who uses palm strikes, Skall's Keysi background leads him to prefer fists. Me being a grappler though, I prefer being able to switch from a strike to a grab. So, Skall knows that open hand slaps and strikes definitely are nothing to laugh about ;)
Cara the Rat
+1
Try lexan knuckles
or G10
Oh my god when you cut it open at the end! Aaauuuuhhh! D: Damn those are well made ahaha
makes sense.. it's more about focusing all the energy to a single point.. so even if the material isn't as strong it will be more damaging that way. the drawback is that you have to be more accurate with your strike. interestingly in martial arts this is why (in say karate) you are taught to punch only by striking with the first two knuckles of the fist. you have to be more accurate with this because it's less powerful than like a boxing haymaker; but again that's why you train to be super accurate with your hits(i.e. hit directly in the nose or the diaphragm). hitting with the first 2 knuckles and with your wrist straight also makes your hand less likely to break without gloves.
Why do you wear the knuckle dusters so low on your hand? You know those aren't the knuckles you're supposed to hit with right?
You don't hit with the knuckles any more, you hit with the dusters, what else are they for
Exactly.
haha
False. I own three pairs of actual "brass knuckles" and
If you line them up on your upper knuckles/in the middle of your upper knuckles you will break your fingers. You want to line them up with your lower knuckles so all the force of the dusters are put into your palm, and not your fingers. Many people have made videos demonstrating this.
*smack*
You're a pretty bad boxer all in all.
When did I ever claim to be a boxer?
Yesterday
No offence. :)
Cool to see a channel's owner responding. Shows you know/want to know the community. Props.
PS love the content. Let the pommels fly.
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Dude you look badass with the slow motion.
that's why the weapon knucle brass is made from metal ! If you want to use knuckle brass-toy, yes you can use a plastic one...
(but i don't advise you to use a plasitc brass in a street fight - the only thing that you'll do, is just to pist off your enemy more)
for some reason I like the way you throw your punches. yeah it's not actually good or anything, but it looks cool when you do it
Wow, great videos! Really cool weapons and stuff!
The Skall Squad is so badass!
@Skallagrim want to point out that for safety reasons, you should never punch with your thumb sticking out. That is a great way to fracture your thumb; better to wrap it below the fist around the pointing and middle fingers
I know, and I wasn't doing that when throwing the punches. You can see that my thumb is wrapped around the fingers in the footage. The way I was holding it when talking about the knuckle duster is not how I use it.
Still, that's a great advise for everyone else
What i am waiting for is a Heavy War Axe VS Zombie Head or a Heavy War Axe VS Kite Shield.
Fantastic new intro, Skall!!!
Not surprising you got a depressed skull fracture with that last one, all the force is going onto that point.
I always appreciate your willingness to suffer for our entertainment, Skall. :)
1:08 that is the most beautiful hook punch I have ever scene! :O
That head is sofaking nasty, but cool as heck.
Ps. You did a good job of ending that zombie rightly.
Nice right hand from ponytail man, REALLY nice punch from Skall. Ｉ'm rather surprised
lol, ponytail man?
You throw a pretty wicked punch Skall.
Nice intro, niceshirts everywhere, cool metal song, punch in the face and breaking things. What else do I need?
You do NOT want to get in a fight with someone who has brass knuckles
i love when you just are messing around with the naked head
oh bummer, I was waiting so long for this, I thought they would hold up.
Nice disturbed shirt. I love the new album
tfw you're so metal that the knuckle dusters break but your hand doesn't
Yes, maybe the plastic isn't too durable. But then again, I wouldn't want to be whacked in the face by hard plastic.
Not an expert on knuckles by any means, but my "experience" using them to smash things, hammer fist was by far the most effective and most comfortable angle to use.
Delrin would of been a more suitable plastic for the knuckles. Hard but not brittle. Good impact resistance and heat resistant the ladder being its main application.
When you throw punches especially a lead hand hook you need to sit down and shift your weight to your rear leg. Sticking your chin out over your front foot takes away a tremendous amount of punching power and is a quick way to be countered and slept
You actually wore them the right way.
I have a couple of metal brass knuckles from Brass Knuckles Company. The palm support really hurt my palm whenever I used it. So I put 3 layers of plastidip on the palm support and it really help. More grip and no more palm injury
Awesome video, you probably saved someones butt with this.
As a religious watcher of the ufc it brought joy to hear skall say boxers fracture and hammer fist xD I don't know why
That guy's star wars /iron maiden shirt is awesome
Aww yiss!
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The guy with the galactic empire shirt is so cute
the second set of knuckles worked better because it has smaller finger loops. the finger loops are the weakest part of the plastic
I feel physically hurt by looking at your friend.
That intro is very cool.
wear a leather glove if possible , also pad the part that touches the palm ,put them just behind the first joint , don't try for haymaker. short swiping rabbit punches and hammer blows I actually got this advice from an old man at a knife shop up north nice fellow for putting up with a kids questions
I don't care if it breaks; you hit me in the face with one of these and I am not getting up.