RIA is well below Staccato, Atlas and Prodigy. The Prodigy is a much more reliable and flatter shooting pistol than the Rock Island. Furthermore, the Prodigy is made in Illinois, Staccato in Texas and Atlas in Vermont. RIA is made in the Philippines with slightly higher quality than a high point
@@dailygrind5575 I can tell you straight up you don't have a clue to what you are saying. I have well over 35 handguns from budget to high dollar. I have a Prodigy and I also have 4 R I. I will run my R I bullet for bullet any day against the so called high dollar/ way over priced Staccatos, Atlas and Prodigy. The said guns come with a better trigger and a few things like slide cuts [some] and Optics cuts. Other than that they are extremely over priced. Just because it's made in America at a way over priced point doesn't make it any better, only far more expensive. This can be proven easy. Again You don't know what you are talking about fact.
@@arlissyoung8899 that’s good for you and your 35 fisher price guns that probably consists of a bunch of High Points, Rock Islands and Turkish clones. I also own a Prodigy and have used both the Staccato and Rock Islands in competition settings before I decided to buy the prodigy. The real facts are that the Prodigy and Staccato both recoil less, therefore allow for faster follow up shots when seconds count. And yes, it also has a better trigger and optics ready slide which is worth the extra money. Being made in America by a reputable company with an excellent customer service history and lifetime warranty is also worth the extra money. They also employ American workers that rely on recurring business to feed their families and keep the economy strong. But you keep on rocking that garbage Asian made paper weight. The only imports I own are several H&Ks because they’re the best firearms in the world. Go be bitter somewhere else old man
@@dailygrind5575 Nice try, I will give you an E for effort. Now that mommy has let you out of the basement, I will send you a Hee Man starter kit. It will have a Tic Tack and 2 BBs with the much needed instruction for you. I have many High Dollar handguns and a few budget ones also. Nevertheless you can't afford a real high dollar handgun gun so again you have no clue that's why you have a Prodigy. I also have been in a great number of USPSA matches so there you go cowgirl. Again anytime time you want to try your Prodigy against anything I have blow that dollar amount, I would say bring it on again but you can't afford the money and mommy wouldn't allow to cowgirl. You can't put your money where your month is because you don't have it to back yourself up or the experience in the real would of manhood as talk is cheap and it takes money to buy Whiskey. Hopefully the Hee Man starter kit will get you on the road to becoming a real man out from mommy's basement into a real world setting. Best of Luck to you, your going to need all the help you can get cowgirl.
I had to put a basepad on my Mec-Gar PARA P18 then they worked perfectly. Taylor freelance has some and the other one was Armscor Rock Island Armory 1911 A2 Double Stack Magazine Basepad 54152 which you can find them for around $7. Things gonna be a beast after you and Hayes get done with it. Love the prodigy so much as well I plan on getting one soon and sending it on over to you guys for sure.
@@SkipsGunz me too! I’ve been a big fan of the pro ultra I got and I was excited when I saw your video on the RIA because I knew you were gonna make that thing 🔥 and for people to see it for what it is. Great gun.
The RI mag seems compatible with the Mec Gar made Para mag is that right? It looks similar to the Bul double stack mag as well; anyone know if it runs the Bul mags or willing to try it?
@@tarikwomack1112 I have, had the fixed block port from dsc done on it. My XC has the Atlas trigger, thumb safety and slide lock thumb rest, plus Cheely stainless grip. Better than the Prodigy, just feels smoother all the way around. That gun competes with my Atlas pistols
I had to change out the floor plates on the mags for mag extensions to work on my R I with the mag well. After that they have been running great and it gives the extra 5 rounds also. I use Taylor Freelance for most all my go to mag extension and mag wells and back straps.
The RI mag seems compatible with the Mec Gar made Para mag is that right? It looks similar to the Bul double stack mag as well; anyone know if it runs the Bul mags or willing to try it?
@@LVbibby Yes the Mec Gar Para mags are the ones I got and use. Again with the floor plate they will not set fully with a mag well unless changed out with mag exten. or grinding them down to fit [maybe]. I don't know if the Bul DS mags are the same as I haven't tried them. Good to go on Para / Mec Gar.
That’s the same magazine body but the baseplate is the issue. Either get the baseplate on your original or get the Taylor freelance +4 baseplates. They work great!! I have 4 of them.
I'm not going to lie when i read RIA i was hoping it was the 5.0 but hey I'm definitely excited to see the 1911 finished too! Someday ill get that email sent!
I believe it’s the baseplates they were for the para guns but I think if you change those they should work I got one and had to do that but afterwords it worked great just my two cents
Was just doing some online browsing, and found out that Live free Armory is going to be coming out with a double stack 1911 lf their own, for $950 pre-order price, I'm definitely tempted 😂😂😂
@@SkipsGunz shouldn't be too hard for me to fit a bull barrel, just started working as a 2011 gunsmith myself, hopefully I can work to be as good as you are with em 👌
Hey Skipz, I don't think you mentioned this or I missed it but what slide stop/lock/etc is that that you have on the RIA 1911/2011? I have the same gun but can't find any compatible slide stops/locks/etc since I'm looking for an extended one.
Most people seem to have better luck with the Prodigy 4.25 out of the box, but how does the 5.0 run after your improvements? I’m looking for a solid shooter, maybe competition, not necessarily a carry 2011.
Hey skipz, have you considered reviewing another 2011 from the Philippines? I been reading up on the SPS Pantera that’s imported by Tristar. It’s a affordable STI Edge. Price from 1300-1700 depending on where you can get it.
Definitely looked it’s just a hard sell by the time I’m done I could start with a prodigy and atleast it’s optic cut. But for the right price il build anything
I have a host of high-end gunz. The Prodigy is good, but is an assembly-line gun. I sold my first one because I had huge early sale issues (failure to eject and feed, failure to battery). Springfield has now fixed those issues. The Platypus is great, and totally customizable. It is much more of a "hand-assembled" gun. The Bull Armory 1911s are fantastic. I have the 2011 Cesar and it is a killer, phenomenal. However, the Bul Armory SAS II is the bomb. A great 2011 gun at a great price, and my first choice. The Pro model is ported. If you do the Prodigy send it to Skips to at least get the EGW ignition system installed. Makes a huge difference.
Can you do a video talking about the base Prodigy vs. RIA if someone wanted to buy either and upgrade it? Which has the better build quality and how much you should budget?
I purchased a Hayes Custom RIA The base gun they used was the Ultra Match Pro. An excellent base gun. So much so that Hayes removed the RIA stamp and stamped the gun with their signature Texas horns stamp. The Match Pro sells for about $1000.00
Retail $ on the two guns is a big difference. Prodigy is ~$1,400 , RI is ~$900. You can buy lots of parts for $500. The Prodigy has a smaller grip than the RI. Plastic vs. metal grip. Both feel right in a medium large hand.
I have one. Got the full HCG package. I'm talking the whole shebang. Thing runs better and works better than an atlas. It's nowhere near the same pistol you send in
Clean up the tooling cut marks on the slide and rails, polish /stone kiss the fire components. Change out the extractor with a Wilson Combat bullet proof and zero malfunctions at 1300 rnds. Large grip like a H&K USP45 expert but if you have medium large hands it won't be an issue. SUPER accurate with the standard barrel no need to replace it with a bull barrel IMO. Fast trigger too.
Taylor Freelance Magwell and +4 mag extensions. Little to no frame fitting required. Running Para and Armscore 16 rounders in my limited .40 USPSA RIA and getting 20 RDS competition legal at 140mm. Should be able to get 22/23 in 9mm. Did plus up on the mag springs ($40 bucks for 4 mags) No need to run MBX just for the capacity. That said I have a number of MBX mag's for other 2011's and love them.
Every video the production and visual effects gets better and better. 2XL is the only shirt size for 2011 owners. Everyone else is a schmedium.
RIA is a smooth operator.sad most people don't acknowledge beings they are so called cheap. To me I rank it below staccato slightly.
RIA is well below Staccato, Atlas and Prodigy. The Prodigy is a much more reliable and flatter shooting pistol than the Rock Island. Furthermore, the Prodigy is made in Illinois, Staccato in Texas and Atlas in Vermont. RIA is made in the Philippines with slightly higher quality than a high point
@@dailygrind5575 I can tell you straight up you don't have a clue to what you are saying. I have well over 35 handguns from budget to high dollar. I have a Prodigy and I also have 4 R I. I will run my R I bullet for bullet any day against the so called high dollar/ way over priced Staccatos, Atlas and Prodigy. The said guns come with a better trigger and a few things like slide cuts [some] and Optics cuts. Other than that they are extremely over priced. Just because it's made in America at a way over priced point doesn't make it any better, only far more expensive. This can be proven easy. Again You don't know what you are talking about fact.
@@arlissyoung8899 that’s good for you and your 35 fisher price guns that probably consists of a bunch of High Points, Rock Islands and Turkish clones. I also own a Prodigy and have used both the Staccato and Rock Islands in competition settings before I decided to buy the prodigy. The real facts are that the Prodigy and Staccato both recoil less, therefore allow for faster follow up shots when seconds count. And yes, it also has a better trigger and optics ready slide which is worth the extra money. Being made in America by a reputable company with an excellent customer service history and lifetime warranty is also worth the extra money. They also employ American workers that rely on recurring business to feed their families and keep the economy strong. But you keep on rocking that garbage Asian made paper weight. The only imports I own are several H&Ks because they’re the best firearms in the world. Go be bitter somewhere else old man
@@dailygrind5575 Nice try, I will give you an E for effort. Now that mommy has let you out of the basement, I will send you a Hee Man starter kit. It will have a Tic Tack and 2 BBs with the much needed instruction for you. I have many High Dollar handguns and a few budget ones also. Nevertheless you can't afford a real high dollar handgun gun so again you have no clue that's why you have a Prodigy. I also have been in a great number of USPSA matches so there you go cowgirl. Again anytime time you want to try your Prodigy against anything I have blow that dollar amount, I would say bring it on again but you can't afford the money and mommy wouldn't allow to cowgirl. You can't put your money where your month is because you don't have it to back yourself up or the experience in the real would of manhood as talk is cheap and it takes money to buy Whiskey. Hopefully the Hee Man starter kit will get you on the road to becoming a real man out from mommy's basement into a real world setting. Best of Luck to you, your going to need all the help you can get cowgirl.
Love to see more Springfield Armory Prodigy Video views ! Thanks for all your effort !
More to come!
The flat base plates are for the frames without the magwell. Ria sells base plates that will work with your magwell.
Those prodigy builds are awesome. Great builds.
❤ nice work your videos are always interesting, the armory makes me think of trp long dust, my favorite single stock thank you
I had to put a basepad on my Mec-Gar PARA P18 then they worked perfectly. Taylor freelance has some and the other one was Armscor Rock Island Armory 1911 A2 Double Stack Magazine Basepad 54152 which you can find them for around $7. Things gonna be a beast after you and Hayes get done with it. Love the prodigy so much as well I plan on getting one soon and sending it on over to you guys for sure.
I’m excited to see the ria
@@SkipsGunz me too! I’ve been a big fan of the pro ultra I got and I was excited when I saw your video on the RIA because I knew you were gonna make that thing 🔥 and for people to see it for what it is. Great gun.
The RI mag seems compatible with the Mec Gar made Para mag is that right? It looks similar to the Bul double stack mag as well; anyone know if it runs the Bul mags or willing to try it?
Nice work w/both of them! I'm seeing alot more RIAs on the range these days, so word has definitely gotten out on them. 👍👍
I’m surprised that so many people responded to these videos it’s great 😊
the met gar mags are for an older generation of RIA double stack.
Once the upgrade are done on the Prodigys, I prefer them over the Staccatos, except for the XC
XC is a hard one to beat
You can actually get a Prodigy done like an XC for $1,000 less than the cost of an actual XC and that includes the price of the Prodigy
@@tarikwomack1112 I have, had the fixed block port from dsc done on it. My XC has the Atlas trigger, thumb safety and slide lock thumb rest, plus Cheely stainless grip. Better than the Prodigy, just feels smoother all the way around. That gun competes with my Atlas pistols
@@SkipsGunz I’d love to shoot my PT Htac more, but still can’t get an optics plate for it, have an H Pro I’m still waiting on
Good luck, PT customer service sucks
I had to change out the floor plates on the mags for mag extensions to work on my R I with the mag well. After that they have been running great and it gives the extra 5 rounds also. I use Taylor Freelance for most all my go to mag extension and mag wells and back straps.
The RI mag seems compatible with the Mec Gar made Para mag is that right? It looks similar to the Bul double stack mag as well; anyone know if it runs the Bul mags or willing to try it?
@@LVbibby Yes the Mec Gar Para mags are the ones I got and use. Again with the floor plate they will not set fully with a mag well unless changed out with mag exten. or grinding them down to fit [maybe]. I don't know if the Bul DS mags are the same as I haven't tried them. Good to go on Para / Mec Gar.
@@arlissyoung8899 awesome thanks!
Subscribed for the Prodigy content, staying for that RIA transformation
Well we’re doing cool stuff all the time here lol 😝
@4:34~4:55 check out those eyes, focused, not blinking.
He's a suiter.....I mean shooter!
I’m an alien 👽 no need for blinking
Damn the plague puttin in work in the slowmo
It’s a killer. Lol see wut I did there
Last I checked armscor or Rock Island has 22tcm/ 9 mm magazines on there site for sale, double stack magazines!
Love the Prodigy man
I love both lol
That’s the same magazine body but the baseplate is the issue. Either get the baseplate on your original or get the Taylor freelance +4 baseplates. They work great!! I have 4 of them.
I got some coming thanks
The prodigy doesn’t look like it necessarily has less felt recoil, just a noticeably quicker return to zero resulting in faster follow up shots.
The prodigy’s polymer grip probably helps with the felt recoil being it’ll flex and give abit under recoil
I'm not going to lie when i read RIA i was hoping it was the 5.0 but hey I'm definitely excited to see the 1911 finished too! Someday ill get that email sent!
I definitely will follow this! Probably my next purchase!….I can’t wait to receive back my P365 Macro, from you and try it!….
Right on!
Love the rock island content thanks! You rock keep it up please.
I believe it’s the baseplates they were for the para guns but I think if you change those they should work I got one and had to do that but afterwords it worked great just my two cents
I BOUGHT 3 MAG'S AND PUT THE PROPER BASE ON THEM THEY FEED FINE
Love my RIA
Ria ! Steal tank of a frame that is basically a copy of the original double stack 1911 the para ordinance... Awesome !!!
I love mine so much I might marry it
Was just doing some online browsing, and found out that Live free Armory is going to be coming out with a double stack 1911 lf their own, for $950 pre-order price, I'm definitely tempted 😂😂😂
Yeah there cool just a bushing barrel though kinda silly to not offer a bull these days
@@SkipsGunz shouldn't be too hard for me to fit a bull barrel, just started working as a 2011 gunsmith myself, hopefully I can work to be as good as you are with em 👌
@Minutes-Mils no worries you’ll getit just believe in yourself and push hard every day
Is the grip on the prodigy more narrow more ergonomic? I have a Ria 10mm Dbl stack and it's like a 2×4
Yeah way more ergonomic in comparison definitely no what u mean I am interested in so alternative palmswell grips for it to round it out eventually
Epic channel
Man U did binge lol 😂
As always bud nice vid.
I’m trying
Hey Skipz, I don't think you mentioned this or I missed it but what slide stop/lock/etc is that that you have on the RIA 1911/2011?
I have the same gun but can't find any compatible slide stops/locks/etc since I'm looking for an extended one.
It’s something I sell on the site it doesn’t lockback on a lot of guns just a heads up but it is a great leverage point
What plate did you use on the prodigy to mount that Atibal? Thanks!
I said it in the video the acro plate
What type of acro plate? Didn’t see one for the prodigy. Thanks
Most people seem to have better luck with the Prodigy 4.25 out of the box, but how does the 5.0 run after your improvements? I’m looking for a solid shooter, maybe competition, not necessarily a carry 2011.
They run like the one in the video no issues
Hey skipz, have you considered reviewing another 2011 from the Philippines? I been reading up on the SPS Pantera that’s imported by Tristar.
It’s a affordable STI Edge. Price from 1300-1700 depending on where you can get it.
Definitely looked it’s just a hard sell by the time I’m done I could start with a prodigy and atleast it’s optic cut. But for the right price il build anything
What are your thoughts on Stealth Arms platypus. Can they be upgraded or should I buy Springfield Armory? Also thoughts on Bull Armory? Thanks
Go with the prodigy
Www.SkipsGuns.com
I have a host of high-end gunz. The Prodigy is good, but is an assembly-line gun. I sold my first one because I had huge early sale issues (failure to eject and feed, failure to battery). Springfield has now fixed those issues. The Platypus is great, and totally customizable. It is much more of a "hand-assembled" gun. The Bull Armory 1911s are fantastic. I have the 2011 Cesar and it is a killer, phenomenal. However, the Bul Armory SAS II is the bomb. A great 2011 gun at a great price, and my first choice. The Pro model is ported. If you do the Prodigy send it to Skips to at least get the EGW ignition system installed. Makes a huge difference.
Can you do a video talking about the base Prodigy vs. RIA if someone wanted to buy either and upgrade it? Which has the better build quality and how much you should budget?
Yeah I can probably swing that
I purchased a Hayes Custom RIA The base gun they used was the Ultra Match Pro. An excellent base gun. So much so that Hayes removed the RIA stamp and stamped the gun with their signature Texas horns stamp. The Match Pro sells for about $1000.00
Retail $ on the two guns is a big difference. Prodigy is ~$1,400 , RI is ~$900. You can buy lots of parts for $500. The Prodigy has a smaller grip than the RI. Plastic vs. metal grip. Both feel right in a medium large hand.
How much fitting you to do to get that bull barrel to run in that RIA?
Same as all the other slides basically then u gota do the chamber after it’s a pretty significant job unless u have the tools.
I offer this on my site
Run 2011 mags in it
That type of red dot looks awful on handguns. They look like they would be better suited for PCC's. It grosses me out when I see them on a nice gun.
Entitled to your opinion.
Agreed tbh. A Tacticon Armament Predator V4, Trij SRO, or that rounded top optic style looks so much better on a 1911 style pistol
Good thing they're not your pistols, sad it bothers you that much to comment about others choices
@@PkwyDrive13 weird… the creator didn’t disable comments so people could openly… comment. 😂😂😂
What's your thoughts of ria hayes custom 1911/2011?
Not bad by any means
I have one. Got the full HCG package. I'm talking the whole shebang. Thing runs better and works better than an atlas. It's nowhere near the same pistol you send in
How the ri stand up out the box without upgrades?
Excellent question; have you considered either one yet?
The ria is a fine gun
Clean up the tooling cut marks on the slide and rails, polish /stone kiss the fire components. Change out the extractor with a Wilson Combat bullet proof and zero malfunctions at 1300 rnds. Large grip like a H&K USP45 expert but if you have medium large hands it won't be an issue. SUPER accurate with the standard barrel no need to replace it with a bull barrel IMO. Fast trigger too.
Are you going to add a "Better RIA" package to your services?
It’s already on there
Hey Skip I think Hayes can cut the inside of the grip to run mbx mags...
Hmmmmmm interesting 🤔 il have to see what they say
@@SkipsGunz I looked it up on one of their packages. They cut the grip to allow mbx mags to not over insert or stick.
Taylor Freelance Magwell and +4 mag extensions. Little to no frame fitting required. Running Para and Armscore 16 rounders in my limited .40 USPSA RIA and getting 20 RDS competition legal at 140mm. Should be able to get 22/23 in 9mm. Did plus up on the mag springs ($40 bucks for 4 mags) No need to run MBX just for the capacity. That said I have a number of MBX mag's for other 2011's and love them.
Staccato who?
Lmao 🤣
Red dot vs non red dot or porting not a good comparison
It’s a comparison of what my company can turn these budget guns into not against each other bud
I like the video but please stop racking the slide!!! Your OCD is taking over lol