Ep159: Meeting of Ngakpas - Lama Glenn Mullin & Dr Nida Chenagtsang
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- In this episode I host a dialogue between Tibetologist and Tantric Buddhist Lama Glenn Mullin and doctor of Tibetan Medicine and Yuthok Nyingthig spiritual teacher Dr Nida Chenagtsang.
Lama Glenn and Dr Nida discuss impact of three key revolutionary figures in Tibetan Buddhism from historical and doctrinal perspectives: Padmasambhava, Atisha, and Tsongkhapa.
The discussion extends to include the history and evolution of the famous 6 Yogas of Naropa. Both Lama Glenn and Dr Nida are known to teach these hitherto secretive practices relatively openly, and they discuss the issues that have influenced them to do so, including prophecy, the true meaning of secrecy, and the importance of including the body in religious practice.
Lama Glenn and Dr Nida also discuss subjects such as the geomancy of Samye and the surrounding areas, the pros and cons of the multiplicity of religious sects in Tibet, similarities between Buddhist lineages and Western psychological schools, and more.
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www.guruviking.com/podcast/ep159-meeting-of-ngakpas-lama-glenn-mullin-dr-nida-chenagtsang
Also available on CZcams, iTunes, & Spotify - search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’.
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Topics include:
00:00 - Intro
01:10 - Jimi Hendrix and Je Tsongkhapa
03:29 - 3 revolutionaries: Padmasambhava, Atisha, Tsongkhapa
09:38 - Tsongkhapa’s 5 stages of the Dzogrim vs 6 Yogas of Naropa
14:13 - Padmasambhava’s big breakthrough
18:07 - Civil war, religious persecution, and Muslim invasion
20:08 - Why was Atisha special?
21:09 - Sect consciousness
21:41 - Tsongkhapa and the Sarma Renaissance
23:27 - Importance of historical perspective in understanding Tibetan Buddhism
26:16 - Samye College & the 5 Perfections
29:27 - Similarities with psychology schools
31:07 - Milarepa and experiential learning
35:38 - Core of all the schools
37:24 - Pros and cons of many schools
41:16 - The geomancy of Samye and Tibet
48:26 - Geomancy and dream yoga
51:36 - Historical evolution of the 6 Yogas of Naropa
56:34 - Why secrecy?
59:06 - Experiential vs academic learning
01:04:07 - Completion stage secrecy doesn’t make sense
01:08:08 - Body liberation is essential in tantra
01:12:47 - Physical activity is important
01:15:07 - Subtle body yogas of vajrayana
01:23:29 - Glenn’s closing remarks on the pros and cons of recent spread of Buddhism
01:33:19 - Nida’s closing remarks on social awareness and finding balance in Buddhist teaching
01:41:14 - The need for female teachers
01:43:32 - BONUS: Lama Glenn & Dr Nida's first meeting (in Tibetan)
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Previous episodes with Lama Glenn Mullin:
- www.guruviking.com/search?q=g...
Previous episodes with Dr Nida Chenagtsang:
- www.guruviking.com/search?q=c...
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To find out more about Lama Glenn Mullin, visit:
- www.glennmullin.com/
- / maitripa.glenn
To find out more about Dr Nida Chenagtsang, visit:
- / doctornida
- www.skypressbooks.com/
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For more interviews, videos, and more visit:
- www.guruviking.com
Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James - Zábava
Thankyou. I really admire Steve’s rare capacity to allow his fascinating guests amplitude to tell their own stories while also discretely guiding the discussion at key points. Very dignified and intelligent and also well-informed.
I never comment, but this was such beautiful conversation between such beautiful beings, homage to my dear teachers, and thank you Steve for making this happen.
Last 5 mins. or so Steve looking slightly bemused is priceless ! Time to learn Tibetan Steve ? Thanks for the grins and chuckles Lama Glenn and Dr. Nida and further clues and thought provoking info ! May All beings be happy ! May the Dharma suffuse and transform all ignorance ! ! !
Lord Buddha blessing to all of us.
Awesome - will watch this more than once for sure
Thank you lamala! My yamantaka master and ngakpa ordination master! Homage!
Hey Lama laaa! How wonderful. Whoooop ❤
Washed over by peace listening to Dr. Nida.
Can't wait 💪🏼😇🎉
Amazing knowledge succinctly presented with grace and natural flow 🎉🎉 Tashi delek
This was a fabulous interview and display of cross cultural exchange.... a westerner with deep knowledge of Tibetan culture and history, and a Tibetan with deep knowledge of western culture and history. I learned a lot and will be listening again. Thank you!
Can't wait! Great topics of discussion!
Great! Thank you)
Exciting!
Thanks for this beautiful talk . Om Ah Hu 🙏
Awesome interview, much appreciated.
Nectar of wisdom to the ears! So blessed 🙏🙏🙏 Gratitude to Lamas and Steve for conducting this 🙏
Wow one of my Lamas and my other Lama's Lama! 💗
There is a lot of information on this conversation...... insightful and great interview. I was enjoying it a lot and will re-watch it again. Thank you. 🙏👍🪷☸️
Very informative. Thank you for the great teaching 🙏🙏
Very nice insights from modern teachers about the development of Dharma.
Great interview. I learned a lot about the historical development and political influences in the transmission of Tibetan Buddhism. Lama Glenn's teachings are amazing and his books are great too, looking forward to checking out Dr. Nida Chenagstang's work at some point too!
Thank you,very interesting.
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Rejoicing In The Merit!
great!
What happiness!
Wonderful interview discussing very important points. The bit on secrecy was particularly fascinating. Loved the end of the interview in Tibetan. You should have just dropped a "I was going to say the same thing!" .
Loved it. Stay blessed. 🙏🙏🙏
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all the meditation surely one will not die as result. hope so.
A meeting of Ngakpas that starts by quoting Jimi Hendrix (emanation of Chakrasamvara) must be an interesting meeting :)
After having watched the video, I have to add : It is a very, very, very interesting meeting. Thank you Guru Viking, Thank you Dr Nida, Thank you Lama Glenn Mullin :)
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There is another reason for secrecy re Highest Yoga Tantra: because it involves manipulation of very subtle body energies it must be handled very skilfully and precisely otherwise physical imbalances can occur as well as mental one’s as the energy winds and our mind which rides in dependence upon them are intimately related. An example would be misapplication of tummo techniques.
Tuje che!
The bonus part was really special. And funny... 😁 were you bored, Steve?
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Hello dear Guru Viking. Thank you very much for your work, I found it quite inspiring for my own practice. I was wondering if you maybe could give me your opinion on a question I am having regarding my own meditation practice right now. In your experience, would you say that intermittend fasting, not eating after solar noon, is something beneficial to the practice? Maybe even required to do for achieving deeper meditation?
I would be happy to hear your opinion on this matter.
Have a good day and all the best!
Looking forward to it. When are you releasing Deva Dasi as a single on Spotify? Love it
Tashi Delek all !
Very good. Both Glen and Nida have real knowledge of the tradition according to Buddhist accounts. The Bonpo say there was a fully enlightened tradition in Tibet way before Buddhism, with the nine stages complete, that Buddhists tried to wipe out in Tibet. Sangarakshita a demon who persecuted the Bonpos, including burning whole communities in their Bon temples which were destroyed. Bonpos given the choice of converting, death, or exile. Padmasambhava, probably a mythical and pseudo epigraphic device anyway, was a son of a Bon siddha who saved Bon texts by changing various names so they looked Buddhist. So many Buddhist termas, they say, are Bon texts adapted for the times. I don't know what the absolute historical truth is, all I can assert is that the Buddhist account might be a little skewed and self exculpatory. But enjoyed hearing these two Buddhist scholars and all round good guys imo.
Sorry there was bon but their practice were based on shamanism, if you use logic , you will know. If there was wisdom , why Bon emperors invited Buddhist master from India & china ?
i wish there was some non-commercial yogi dwelling permanent in the caves to avoid the dangers of groups & bullying elsewhere & the money dharma scenario
Pliz share how to prctice n method to become nyagspa
Is there a any way that I could send you a few questions directly? Nothing too complicated but extremely important for me.
This should be interesting.
Possibly you could ask the difficult (impossible?) question, "If there is no self, who or what is training the mind?"
the provisional collection of skandhas, upon which the label of "self" can be misattributed.
The designated self which is functional in the relative world.
First we have to define object of negation. "Self" is too vague. This is the key point of Lama Tsongapha. We negate independent of cause and conditions, unchangle, indivisible, self existing entity we label and expeerience of self. Emptiness means our exsitense is absent of this partifcular seld. Which is not complete negation of existense per se. So training make sense if is just creation of causes for sanity based in realisitc view of reality Anyhow thats my limited understanding
"Some people say that they exist, and those folks are as idiotic as cows. Others say they don't exist, and they're even more idiotic." - mahasiddha Saraha
At Anuyoga time, the body is not the body, if you see this way you are just reifying it = more obstacles. I disagree that the 6 yogas is less secret then atiyoga.
Hollywood movie of Padmasambhava? Oh, yes!
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Pliz explain how to become nyagspa
from uk BCC gumba.
Branching Streams Flow In The Darkness.
Thanx Viking,very informative teachers,I'm wondering how many students have the time and stamina to complete Ngondro...Do you practice Ngondro may I ask? Direct question..please furnish reply..vajra command...ignore at your peril..😁👍
I'm waiting...it's rude not to engage with people who leave comments..after all,if we didn't watch your content,you probably wouldn't bother recording this content...what would be the point..other than cataloguing Buddhism in this particular moment in time...which is being done all over the world.
I must admit,I often wonder whether practitioners who have great scholarly knowledge,can also walk the walk...Not wishing to suggest that either of your guests cannot walk the walk...but rather I would like to hear more about the experiential side of travelling the path .
STOP THINKING! and you are there ... .
@@felice9907 it's not the thinking that's the problem,it's believing our thoughts to be REAL..
thoughts NATURALLY arise just like clouds appearing in the sky.
@@hedfuka8608 that´s true as well ... so where is the problem?!
@@felice9907 which problem?...they're EVERYWHERE..😅😂🤣😁
@@felice9907 me again...if you're interested maybe listen to another vid with Glen Mullin...episode 9 .
6 yoga's of Naropa on Vikings channel..here he talks a bit more of his experiences..which is what I am interested in .👍
if everything is in interdependence or more deeply if so than there is no thing at all, so why all the practice when there is no eternal soul and else? dont get me wrong on a mental construction level we all wanna have decent lives but why a goal when the absolute truth is there is no goal or enlightenment?
nothing early saying apart it now happening apart it not same,do not know dhama why for come out thus now time knew come out what saying meaning words clearly find it first...
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It's interesting, but these Tibetan "agents" won't tell us any meditation techniques anyway.
They both teach openly. If you pursue their teachings, you will find them. There simply isn’t enough time for it to be practical to teach practices as complex as six yogas during the span of the interview.
Well they are not going to knock on your door and tell you meditate like this and that. Just move and go to a meditation class, workshop, retreat.
@@DTTaTa Really? You're so smart. I never would have guessed. There's a little catch: I'm immobile, and I get out about twice a year. And if they're somewhere on the other side of the globe, I'd have to be able to levitate--but in that case, I wouldn't need any instructions.
@@mispanludensprinck5652 zoom bro, if you are inmobile the pandemic was your best friend. There are zoom teachings everywhere. Just do a little research
@@mispanludensprinck5652 few teachers recomendations: mingyur rinpoche, tsoknyi rinpoche, lama lena
They all teach online
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