Can I have a baby with the Grim Reaper? // Sims 4 Grim Reaper

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  • čas přidán 9. 02. 2022
  • Have you ever wondered whether you can woohoo and have a baby with the Grim Reaper? If the answer to that question is yes then you might like this video!
    I’ve been getting more and more interested in these little sims 4 experiments lately, so I figured I’d indulge myself today! I think we will probably do more experiments like these in the future.
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  • @WhinyBrit
    @WhinyBrit  Před 2 lety +95

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    • @Xx_lil452
      @Xx_lil452 Před 3 měsíci

      why did u kill blue dress/leila u could have used her for smth else

  • @SweetLala25
    @SweetLala25 Před 2 lety +2698

    It's annoying that EA put in that line about "the forces of evil don't have time for romance." It's the evil part that's pointless. The Grim Reaper isn't evil, they are literally meant to help the soul move on to the next plane. How is that evil? lmao just annoying. But this was entertaining though lol

    • @EldiumCraftwerks
      @EldiumCraftwerks Před 2 lety +317

      Depending on the viewpoint, the Grim Reaper is even kind. He/It makes sure you don't enter the afterlife alone and makes sure you get where you're going.
      And Life absolutely adores him. She's constantly sending him gifts that he keeps forever. 😁

    • @lemonweirdo
      @lemonweirdo Před 2 lety +110

      Yeah, and I also heard somewhere that he offers discounts when you’re trying to save a child’s life, how is that evil? (assuming it’s real)

    • @kgcat
      @kgcat Před 2 lety +66

      EA kind of sucks. I have sensory issues and the high maintenance trait just makes fun of that I can't even use it

    • @_Z0YA_COOKS
      @_Z0YA_COOKS Před 2 lety +8

      Agreed.
      Anhel of Death is always neutral.

    • @Anna-hy4sb
      @Anna-hy4sb Před rokem +9

      Yeah,Watch A Dub Of "Loving Reaper" Its Very Sweet.

  • @supi-becky
    @supi-becky Před 2 lety +1242

    Love how morbid the "He dislikes the colour blue? Oh well, there's no trace of blue in this house, so..." part is, considering your Sim just destroyed the only blue thing in the house by killing off her sister with the blue dress 😄

  • @allamericanslacker2378
    @allamericanslacker2378 Před rokem +534

    This video made me miss the Grim Reaper from Sims 3. One of my sims befriended him in their childhood, and Grim showed up to his college graduation. Since he wasn't there because someone died, he didn't show up in his robes and with his scythe, and I got to see his face. He had jet black skin, with a mile high black pompadour that had purple highlights, and was wearing Hugh Hefner style pajamas.

    • @Hannahhello
      @Hannahhello Před 10 měsíci +39

      Thats so cute

    • @Flamingo123e
      @Flamingo123e Před 7 měsíci +29

      @@Hannahhello that is so adorable i want the sims 3 now😭

    • @yendaaaa
      @yendaaaa Před 3 dny

      lmao wait y is this cuteeeeee😩😩😩

  • @maryamshabani9654
    @maryamshabani9654 Před 2 lety +449

    In The Sims 2 there was an old woman in strangetown who did woohoo with grim reaper and had a baby from them. It was actually written in her memories.

    • @chinita2463
      @chinita2463 Před 2 lety +35

      Isn't that the lady who lives in the graveyard thing? Or am I mistaken?

    • @sophie9984
      @sophie9984 Před 2 lety +65

      @@chinita2463 Yes, Olive Specter. But I think even in the Sims 2 it isn‘t possible and the Sims team cheated this in for her backstory.

    • @nerdychocobo
      @nerdychocobo Před 2 lety +29

      @@sophie9984 yeah, nervous is a genetic clone of the grim reaper, not actually olive's biological child. odd that they made it a story line when its not possible to romance grim (and trying to will corrupt your game)

    • @maryamshabani9654
      @maryamshabani9654 Před 2 lety +5

      Monika K Villalobos Lillo yeah that’s right. But it seems that all those graves somehow belong to one of her family members.

    • @Ready-ForTheEnd
      @Ready-ForTheEnd Před 2 měsíci

      Grim is not a them. He is clearly male.

  • @sharonblythe1
    @sharonblythe1 Před 2 lety +680

    I did this challenge with Wickwhims-i have a whole town full of Reaper children...their eyes go really weird down the generations lol

    • @kristingallo2158
      @kristingallo2158 Před 2 lety +12

      I want to try to turn guidry and temperance back into humans and see what happens with whicked whims with those 2.

    • @n2izzyfan
      @n2izzyfan Před 2 lety +2

      @@kristingallo2158 ooo wait how to turn them into human do u use mccc?

    • @kristingallo2158
      @kristingallo2158 Před 2 lety

      @@n2izzyfan there's a recipe you can make that turns ghosts to humans. It's called ambrosia

    • @n2izzyfan
      @n2izzyfan Před 2 lety +1

      @@kristingallo2158 oh yeahh ik ik but how do i make them eat it ?

    • @kristingallo2158
      @kristingallo2158 Před 2 lety +2

      @@n2izzyfan use cheats lol.

  • @BarnettCustomDesign
    @BarnettCustomDesign Před rokem +157

    I find it iconic that he dislikes the color blue after we had to kill her blue dress 😂

  • @adelkaizbest2038
    @adelkaizbest2038 Před 2 lety +106

    Just decided to play new storyline with Extreme violence. Serial killer who keeps murdering people bcs she's in love with the Reaper.

    • @solong_abigail
      @solong_abigail Před 4 měsíci +5

      Ooo that seems fun

    • @pspspstella
      @pspspstella Před 2 měsíci +2

      in sims lore there is actually a sim that did this and they have a son

    • @kikka-sd3mw
      @kikka-sd3mw Před měsícem +1

      That was my exact idea lmaoo

  • @bruhitsdemi7886
    @bruhitsdemi7886 Před rokem +50

    Imagine she kills her sister by accident in a fit of rage and when the grim reaper appears she’s in a trance love at first sight so she sets sights on making him hers but realises the only way for him to appear is death so she starts offing half the town just for them to get together 😂

  • @wicky2701
    @wicky2701 Před 2 lety +65

    My Grim reaper loves my child... literally sounds disturbing it is! My child dad died and he stick around for days to take care of my toddler xD later on mother died and he stickt around 2 days for my kid becoming best friend, then grandma died and he started flirting interaction of his own with my teen sim! (enable teen with MCC) But still !!... I was like 'Ohyeah true love... ' now that she adult, she never can have him... sad ending, and I wasn't even trying to make sad story.

  • @Feluffle
    @Feluffle Před 2 lety +175

    Wasn't this possible in the beginning? Then, EA removed the option for some strange reason... Kinda sad as you could have Grim Juniors running around in the other Sims' games (excluding Sims 1) if I recall correctly.

  • @Canis_vanis2
    @Canis_vanis2 Před 3 měsíci +7

    "There is no trace of blue in this house"
    The cup: 👁️👄👁️

  • @HopelessRomantic-zv8cx
    @HopelessRomantic-zv8cx Před rokem +48

    You actually can try for a baby with him by removing the IsGrimReaper trait and then those options are unlocked. If you want his smoky effect and deep voice back, you can re-enable the trait via cheats.

  • @SevenEllen
    @SevenEllen Před 2 lety +76

    My Sims' favourite colours and hobbies change with every playthrough; once, my Grim Reaper disliked the colour black. Poor guy. The irony wasn't lost on him.

  • @baniduhaine
    @baniduhaine Před 2 lety +119

    The mod by Gauntlet101010 unlocks Reaper interactions. I think it affects other NPCs as well, but not sure which others.

  • @thatcrazyorc5335
    @thatcrazyorc5335 Před 2 lety +34

    If you can't woohoo the grim reaper then why am I even living?!

    • @HopelessRomantic-zv8cx
      @HopelessRomantic-zv8cx Před rokem +2

      You can using cheats to remove the grim reaper trait, which will unlock the hidden options, and then add it back on for his exclusive effects back.

    • @thatcrazyorc5335
      @thatcrazyorc5335 Před rokem

      @@HopelessRomantic-zv8cx thank you 😊.

  • @MyHellaKitty
    @MyHellaKitty Před 2 lety +46

    I love your Sims social science experiments. It's entertaining and educational at the same time. I love your sense of humor.

  • @gneurshk_
    @gneurshk_ Před rokem +14

    "It is no longer possible to Try for Baby with the G R I M R E A P E R *wheeze*"

  • @andreamyob9458
    @andreamyob9458 Před 2 lety +36

    You're basically the Woohoo Guru at this point.

  • @thiaulric9053
    @thiaulric9053 Před 7 měsíci +12

    I wonder what Bonehilda and Grim's kids would look like 😂

  • @beataceylan
    @beataceylan Před 2 lety +28

    There is a reaper mod that you can become a death angle or something, you can collect souls and give to the Grim Reaper.

  • @Shadow_buddy._.
    @Shadow_buddy._. Před 7 měsíci +8

    4:04 The blue mug on the table: "👁👄👁"

    • @Simply.Cosmic
      @Simply.Cosmic Před 7 měsíci +1

      The blue windows:
      “👁️👄👁️”

    • @Simply.Cosmic
      @Simply.Cosmic Před 7 měsíci +1

      The books:
      “👁️👄👁️”

  • @ok-pi1qm
    @ok-pi1qm Před rokem +12

    hold the shift key and click the grim reaper, select "add to household" you can interact like a normal sim but he still acts like the grim reaper, tings get a bit weird in cas though
    {this is basegame}

  • @leighadawn6783
    @leighadawn6783 Před 6 měsíci +6

    … if the grim reaper was an actual metaphysical being with feelings do you think he’d be mad that EA made him completely unF*able?

  • @peruviangringa
    @peruviangringa Před 2 lety +5

    “come inside” 🤣🤣

  • @Kekeliz
    @Kekeliz Před rokem +10

    Also have u ever tried to have a baby with Night Wraith?He’s a ghost that was a spellcaster in life till he died from overloading and is now a ghost that haunts spellcasters as a curse I believe u can interact with him

  • @Mo_Nilla_Co
    @Mo_Nilla_Co Před 2 lety +12

    please upload this sim to the gallery, she's super pretty 🥺

  • @cas1dor
    @cas1dor Před 2 lety +4

    I love your videos they give me so much inspiration to play!

  • @Austinniya.
    @Austinniya. Před 2 lety +19

    Use MCCC to remove his isgrimreaper trait.

  • @NikkiM93
    @NikkiM93 Před 2 lety +7

    Ya you cant do without mods but my sims with wicked whims like to autonomously sleep with grim LMAO.

  • @larisamuniz8508
    @larisamuniz8508 Před 2 lety +2

    So evil....I love it! 😂

  • @skatiesadiemator5948
    @skatiesadiemator5948 Před rokem +10

    What a sick job you will have. Cash for playing the Sims every Day. I need this gig

  • @Nezuk0Chan-
    @Nezuk0Chan- Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for making these awesome videos

  • @joyce271
    @joyce271 Před 5 měsíci +1

    oh my god i love your channel

  • @hkazu63
    @hkazu63 Před 2 lety +9

    It’s the Olive Specter challenge

  • @SkrunchieBit27
    @SkrunchieBit27 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for answering this because it saved me a lot of time 😳 not to out myself or anything

  • @sootsy9723
    @sootsy9723 Před 2 lety +19

    Only way I’ve ever succeeded was adding him to my family! I’ve had many reaper babies

    • @sootsy9723
      @sootsy9723 Před 2 lety +4

      Oh… you do that right at the end! It was years a go I did it, and I can’t remember what I did!! I know I added him to my family. We even got married!

    • @ZadeMeadowsLittleMouse
      @ZadeMeadowsLittleMouse Před 8 měsíci

      That’s awesome!! Do I need a mod or cheat for this?

  • @babiem2290
    @babiem2290 Před 2 lety +4

    Lmao you do the same exact thing I do when I try to get my sims to woohoo 😭😂😂😂

  • @indiafox5786
    @indiafox5786 Před 2 lety

    This is a brilliant idea

  • @1God2savem3
    @1God2savem3 Před 3 měsíci +1

    At 9:44 reaper says "Oh, sure!" To taking that one succesful solo pic of him?!

  • @miraquledidthat
    @miraquledidthat Před 2 lety +4

    i would definitely try this challenge 😂

  • @dreadlordaxtonus6673
    @dreadlordaxtonus6673 Před 2 lety +7

    well thats Weird You Could Shag Old Grim-reaper in the Sims 3 with no mods? So why they re....oh right the Sims is produced by E.A.

  • @damnedza9368
    @damnedza9368 Před 10 měsíci +1

    You killed the wrong sim!! Lol The one you killed had the moodlet for winning and the other was dazed!😂

  • @davidd.9916
    @davidd.9916 Před 2 lety +4

    I did this myself about a month ago, similar to you I killed the sim I lived with and then had to add another. I killed Summer Holiday and they ended up sending a different grim reaper than the first. I ended up flirty with both, but I wonder just many there are out there.

  • @user-sl4rw4lf5v
    @user-sl4rw4lf5v Před rokem +4

    you can woohoo with him if you make him sexually attracted to other sims ! 🧏🏻‍♀️

  • @angiejean5950
    @angiejean5950 Před 2 lety +3

    Was going to say you can with wicked whims

  • @animaltheangrymuppet9455
    @animaltheangrymuppet9455 Před 2 lety +18

    I have used the mod by Gauntlet101010 a few times myself. I find that Karla makes great videos, entertaining and fun to watch. She is also a great storyteller and just enjoy listening to her.

  • @HopelessRomantic-zv8cx
    @HopelessRomantic-zv8cx Před rokem +4

    “There is not a trace of blue in this house” *Notices the blue window-frames* “are you sure about that..?”

  • @kristinclark5537
    @kristinclark5537 Před 2 lety +1

    I love your vids

  • @xXMalwar3Xx
    @xXMalwar3Xx Před 10 měsíci +1

    i used to have a crush on the grime reaper😭😭😭

  • @user-io3se9je7l
    @user-io3se9je7l Před 2 měsíci +1

    Loved your video, but I had my sim have a scientific baby with the Grim Reaper after I had added him to my household first and it list him as being the father

  • @Nameless_Night
    @Nameless_Night Před rokem +1

    Not a trace of blue, eh? *Slowly removes blue tea cup from the table"

  • @IreneWY
    @IreneWY Před rokem

    Olive spectre in the making

  • @gemma3021
    @gemma3021 Před 2 lety

    No way you upload this just after I try it-

  • @emilycurrent7489
    @emilycurrent7489 Před rokem +2

    *Olive Specter is typing...*

  • @Kekeliz
    @Kekeliz Před rokem +2

    U can u just have to take away his reaper powers so he’s not really gonna be the reaper anymore unless u give his powers back idk if this cheat still works or not I’ve heard rumors EA might have disabled it but u have to use traits.remove_trait GrimReaper after typing in testing cheats true

  • @siennavlogssingsgames6866

    WhinyBrit: theres no trace of blue in this house! The books: EXCUSE ME?

  • @rrruby1377
    @rrruby1377 Před 11 měsíci

    the grim reaper has a tiny freezer bunny skel on his belt... its so cute :,D

  • @leigh0kay
    @leigh0kay Před 5 měsíci

    “no no no, don’t send him home”
    *_”let him stay 😏”_*

  • @Vienely
    @Vienely Před 2 lety +2

    you can if you remove his grim reaper trait, but then he won't be quite grim reaper again. i once tried and he's not flying anymore if i'm not mistaken

    • @EldiumCraftwerks
      @EldiumCraftwerks Před 2 lety +3

      Remove trait, woohoo, re-add trait. Don't kick Grimmie out too quick though... He's a marvelous house guest. Clean, loves to dance, and very humorous.

  • @sophie9984
    @sophie9984 Před 2 lety +2

    But a child with the wishing well isn‘t a problem.

  • @BoBoBoBoBoBoBoBoBoBoBoBo.
    @BoBoBoBoBoBoBoBoBoBoBoBo. Před 11 měsíci +1

    you have to do 'traits.remove_traitisGrimReaper' in the cheats bar. or a variation of that like 'traits.removetrait_GrimReaper' i forgot the origional 😅

  • @lucapeyrefitte6899
    @lucapeyrefitte6899 Před 2 lety +1

    Remember when you could 😂 then they removed it, I didn’t even get to do it

  • @r.washington9146
    @r.washington9146 Před rokem +1

    I tried this as well. Can't even go on a date with him once you start the event and go to chat or whatever it closes out the date because he can't kiss and etc so I just ended up collecting reapers and making them a household🤷

  • @fishy4873
    @fishy4873 Před 11 měsíci +1

    You just have to turn off the grim part of him then you can woohoo

  • @Jay-fh4pn
    @Jay-fh4pn Před 7 měsíci

    If you do want to have a baby with grim without mods, with the new science baby update if you add grim to your household he can have a science baby with your sim. It can’t happen the other way round though

  • @aftermathsample305
    @aftermathsample305 Před 8 měsíci

    You forgot to say "you know I love it when you do that" after you said like and subscribe

  • @emdarby9791
    @emdarby9791 Před 2 lety +2

    Love your videos! Can you please review the Arranged Marriage Mod by Mizoreyukii cause I can no longer download mods without your seal of approval first. Thnx 😘

  • @xxsniperkittykatxx
    @xxsniperkittykatxx Před 2 lety +3

    I **think** you have to remove the trait that makes him the reaper.

  • @tessaelmore9657
    @tessaelmore9657 Před dnem

    You have to turn on testingcheats true and shift click the Grimm reaper and add him to your household then you can woohoo him

  • @nonhuman2804
    @nonhuman2804 Před 2 lety +2

    At first you could but I think they removed it now for some reason

  • @yeehawgaylord7655
    @yeehawgaylord7655 Před rokem +1

    One of my favorite cheats in the game is the "traits.remove_trait isGrimReaper" one because that opens SO many storytelling routes and whatnot.

  • @user-sv5wp5su8n
    @user-sv5wp5su8n Před 2 lety +1

    U can't without cheats but u can with cheats. I added the Grimm reaper to my family and did this cheat when I was then able to have the first kiss and all the other things

  • @_Unoffical_Norahhh_
    @_Unoffical_Norahhh_ Před 11 měsíci

    When a Whiny video starts with two people arguing, you know it's going to be good. EDIT: Also love you Whiny

  • @iyou5291
    @iyou5291 Před rokem +1

    I woohooed the grim reaper before but I couldn’t have a baby with him, I didn’t use any mods/cheats

  • @QueenLuce
    @QueenLuce Před rokem

    "Just a lil kiss" 😏👉👈

  • @nataliafigueroa3757
    @nataliafigueroa3757 Před 2 lety +1

    I would like to see what cc U use for furniture extra

  • @wannabefitgirl7260
    @wannabefitgirl7260 Před 9 měsíci

    I remember my sim making a baby with the grim reaper. It’s been years since I tried but it used to be possible

  • @tarajk82
    @tarajk82 Před rokem +1

    My sim is currently pregnant with a son by the grim reaper😂

  • @carminesanders2759
    @carminesanders2759 Před 14 dny

    So I just tested this and the only way I was able to do it was playing with the genes thing through cas. I checked if I could still mary and have a baby with Patchy too and it still works. LOL I tried the one where people said remove the grim reaper trait and for me the cheat doesn't work.
    (I had to ADD Grim To Family First. and make it so they were married through CAS. Same with Patchy)

  • @ama1992101
    @ama1992101 Před 2 lety

    one of my sims has a baby with the grim reaper by adding him to the family

  • @TheBlonde92
    @TheBlonde92 Před rokem +1

    It vas fate that bleu lost the fight, reaper doesn't like the color blue :D

  • @kaitlinburks5215
    @kaitlinburks5215 Před 2 lety +1

    I was able to do it using the SimDa mod!

  • @flaviaalexiabaciu3381
    @flaviaalexiabaciu3381 Před měsícem

    i feel like you should open up some sort of bussiness w the grim reaper

  • @Ready-ForTheEnd
    @Ready-ForTheEnd Před 2 měsíci

    I think i will do this myself but use actual extreme violence.

  • @loganheron684
    @loganheron684 Před 3 měsíci

    I captured some prisoners and some of them died but then I discovered you could add the grim reaper to your family but then he can’t be the grim reaper so it makes another grim reaper for dead people so I got like 3 grim reapers and locked them in a dark room

  • @pbnjay
    @pbnjay Před 11 měsíci +1

    Grim Reaper meets clingy girlfriend

  • @Cornyjokesnacks
    @Cornyjokesnacks Před 6 měsíci

    Watch me have a science baby with the grim reaper

  • @papergirlb4172
    @papergirlb4172 Před 7 měsíci

    You cannot build up a romantic relationship either with the grim reaper (at least it didn't work for me) it said that he's not interested in that stuff, however if you use cheats you can do that. YOu don't even need a mod for kissing and having a baby with the sim reaper, you can just do that with a cheat, you will see that the cheat worked because the smoke will disappear to and he will have hunger, sleep etc. as well

  • @ariannawilson4536
    @ariannawilson4536 Před 3 měsíci

    I was able to have a baby with him. With and without mods. Forgot how though because I don't have the game anymore.

  • @Therian_Mercury
    @Therian_Mercury Před 11 měsíci +1

    The reason you can’t woohoo with grim is because in preferences there’s 1. Can get others pregnant 2. Can become pregnant 3. Neither he I see neither

  • @Zemiaza
    @Zemiaza Před rokem +1

    They deleted the option to woo him.

  • @evesther1789
    @evesther1789 Před rokem

    Their is a way to have a baby with him I forgot thou lol but it might be a mod or something I saw some youtbers do it in the mystical baby challange .

  • @noestestristecass
    @noestestristecass Před rokem

    i think you needed to make her evil or something so maybe she wouldn't care so much about the actual deaths

  • @Yeah_You_Thought
    @Yeah_You_Thought Před 6 měsíci

    I'm dead

  • @mihmo2663
    @mihmo2663 Před 2 lety +1

    Are the Discover University mascots just other students in costumes? Been a while since I played with that pack

    • @rabidpinkbunny8915
      @rabidpinkbunny8915 Před 2 lety

      Yup, one of my Sims actually married one. XD

    • @mihmo2663
      @mihmo2663 Před 2 lety +3

      @@rabidpinkbunny8915 That's a bummer. I'd like to see her try to pound a giant lobster

    • @rabidpinkbunny8915
      @rabidpinkbunny8915 Před 2 lety

      @@mihmo2663 This comment made me burst out laughing. XD
      I wonder if there's a way to assign one of those costumes as sleepwear? Because then the Sim would change into it before woohooing. Better yet, assign it as all their outfits so they're always in character.

  • @GamerPanda-ds2dz
    @GamerPanda-ds2dz Před 2 lety

    You can with cheats I didn't without mods and it is fun

  • @majapmangor901
    @majapmangor901 Před 2 lety +4

    Baby with bonehilda

    • @EldiumCraftwerks
      @EldiumCraftwerks Před 2 lety +2

      Bonehilda herself can get pregnant, but you have to wait until the baby becomes a toddler before you can kidnap it from the Other Side.

  • @KingDaveth
    @KingDaveth Před rokem +1

    This is why Sims 2 is the best lol.

  • @yass.please
    @yass.please Před rokem +1

    my Sim cheated on her husband with another guy. I was bored so I let her spouse evidence this. As a result, he had a heart attack and died successfully. Sheesh. Still, I was bored and decided to make some love with Grim Reaper🤣🤡 3 times in a row and there wasn't any pregnancy cause he had cond#ms. That was wicked whims though. That's my story