Don't Hate on The Ferrari Mondial. DON'T! -- /DRIVEN

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  • čas přidán 19. 05. 2016
  • Even people who love Ferraris love hating on the Mondial. That's unfair, says UK Ferrari whisperer John Pogson. The Mondial is one of the coolest, most accessible Ferraris around, not some lowly, Italian worm, and he doesn't care what you say about it. Sticks and stones.
    Directed by Adrian Larkin
    www.adrianlarkin.co.uk
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Komentáře • 733

  • @boostgoblin
    @boostgoblin Před 8 lety +265

    This guy gets it

  • @LokiJotunn
    @LokiJotunn Před 8 lety +133

    Level headed working class guy who is a true petrolhead, he's not some fanboy that holds irrational hatred for everything but their personal choice.
    He has my full respect as a genuine car guy.

    • @econseer
      @econseer Před 2 lety +3

      took the words right out of my mouth. This man is a legend.

  • @themessenger5868
    @themessenger5868 Před 8 lety +61

    I've had a 1985 Mondial QV for the last 8yrs and just love it. I agree there are lots of fantastic cars that are not Ferrari's. However, my choice has always been Ferrari and the Mondial QV ticks all the boxes for me. It's everything I wanted in a Ferrari, even the price. People bash the Mondial, why? is it because of it's 4 seats ? I have a son and a wife, so that's perfect! Mine is silver and looks fab. Most people ask when they see it, Why isn't it red ? I ask, why is your Kia outhouse shit brown ? and they get the message. I live in Perth, Australia and we have a lot of dickheads on our roads, so you cop a bit of shit driving in a Ferrari. I think to myself, can your 30 yr old car do 200km's per hr for two hrs straight and then ask for more ? I don't think so. I do all my own servicing and save a packet. Cam seals and belts etc. It's easy! Just do the research, study and check things twice. Buy them now guy's, cos' they're not making anymore. Enjoyed reading your comments. keep driving ALL those fantastic motors no matter what badge they have and help me to leave the biggest carbon foot print I can. Peace to all. Marc

    • @WZDRIP
      @WZDRIP Před rokem +4

      Man’s asked what colors your Bugatti before it was cool

    • @silviavaskova7494
      @silviavaskova7494 Před rokem +2

      You sell it?

  • @DtRockstar1
    @DtRockstar1 Před 8 lety +154

    I've been saying this for years - I never understood the brand bashing. There are so many great cars out there. Why people think there is only one good brand is beyond me.

    • @thimble288
      @thimble288 Před 8 lety +7

      They'd be like that whether it was cars, dogs, religion, cheese; it's all about creating a sense of exclusivism. I like to think we know better than this.

    • @imbluz
      @imbluz Před 8 lety +6

      I like his attitude. I can also relate exactly to what he is saying when he refers to certain people approaching him and engaging him in conversation about his Mondial. But people generally would refrain from such if he was driving a High end Ferrari.

    • @DtRockstar1
      @DtRockstar1 Před 8 lety +1

      Haha! You remembered! That was a while ago, too funny!

    • @DIYDanCars
      @DIYDanCars Před 7 lety

      Couldn't agree more! I love a lot of different cars but the Mondial is not one of them. I do respect it though as it has a place in history. It's just not my cup of tea.

    • @ToyKingWonder
      @ToyKingWonder Před 5 lety

      @@DIYDanCars Yes, but you aren't calling them a POS either. Japanese cars are not my cup of tea either, but there are some very nice models available, such as an NSX. That doesn't mean they are garbage. I had to listen for years about how horrible Corvairs and Fiats are (yes I own both) by people who, almost without exception, have never even ridden in one, much less owned one.

  • @Collateralcoffee
    @Collateralcoffee Před 8 lety +54

    This is not about a Ferrari. Not about the Mondial.
    This is about a message. Petrolheadism :) I love it.

  • @fraxonthefurry21
    @fraxonthefurry21 Před 8 lety +257

    This man loves cars the same way I do. There may be boring cars and fun cars but there all the same, cars, not brands.

  • @chrisperrins9717
    @chrisperrins9717 Před 8 lety +11

    Same 3 litre V8 engine as a 308? Check. Same gearbox as a 308? Check. Same wheels? Check. Same Pininfarina design? Check. Aluminium bonnet and engine lid, superb chassis and handling, classic engine note. A cool car by any definition - and one that seats four! And John Pogson is one cool Ferrari guy, who sums it up perfectly.

  • @RamblinAround
    @RamblinAround Před 8 lety +31

    John seems like a really cool guy. I always liked the Mondial as a young kid. Over the years, I saw people sort of scorn them as not being true Ferrari's. I guess just because they were a bit lower powered and more affordable, that made them less exotic. In reality, they seem like fine cars.

  • @jagtem
    @jagtem Před 8 lety +45

    Collector values for Ferrari Mondial going through the roof in 3...2...1...

    • @colagesicht
      @colagesicht Před 4 lety +5

      Now they are worth around 50k, i still remember when you could get one of these for 20k or less.

    • @patrickmartin3322
      @patrickmartin3322 Před 3 lety +3

      Cola Gesicht I have seen 2 of these for sale near me for around 35k in the past month or so.

    • @willscruton2631
      @willscruton2631 Před 3 lety

      There's a convertible on auto trader rn for £31k they still aren't going up that's cheaper than a golf GTi

  • @eddy42057
    @eddy42057 Před 8 lety +64

    I could listen to this guy talk about anything and still be very interested. What a great man!

    • @RRtradestar
      @RRtradestar Před 8 lety +14

      seriously, he could talk about a 30 year old condom he found in his sock drawer and I would sit on the edge of my seat.

    • @RFSA180
      @RFSA180 Před 8 lety

      +RRtradestar TESTIFY!

    • @RFSA180
      @RFSA180 Před 8 lety +1

      +RRtradestar I want him to talk about me. So I don't feel so shit about my shit life

    • @RRtradestar
      @RRtradestar Před 8 lety +1

      +RFSA180 wow man. you wanna talk about it?
      if your life is shit, it's up to you to polish that turd my friend

    • @JM4300
      @JM4300 Před 8 lety +2

      Yes. I always reply to /drive vids featuring John and demand that he gets his own show. Christ, BBC would have done themselves a favor by trying to court him to appear on TG.

  • @whatareyoudoingyouidiot342
    @whatareyoudoingyouidiot342 Před 8 lety +86

    This guy. This guy speaks truth.

  • @newrez
    @newrez Před 8 lety +26

    Love the passion this guy has for cars! Feel completely the same way.

  • @ZILOGz80VIDEOS
    @ZILOGz80VIDEOS Před 8 lety +47

    This is such a great concept even outside of car fans. People in the computer world get incredibly defensive about AMD vs Nvidia, Intel vs AMD, Linux vs Windows, Mac vs PC and the people who have the most fun are the ones who appreciate and love seeing all that computers have to offer, not just one brand.

    • @hydroponic6561
      @hydroponic6561 Před 8 lety +1

      +Dec true, true

    • @spavatch
      @spavatch Před 8 lety +1

      +Dec nVidia? ATi? 3dfx all the way! ;)

    • @ZILOGz80VIDEOS
      @ZILOGz80VIDEOS Před 8 lety +1

      spavatch
      Nah man, real winners use Chips Tech.

    • @DJmixmo
      @DJmixmo Před 2 lety

      I'm sorry to say I am guilty as charged. I refuse to buy into the Apple monopoly. Long live the PC!

  • @WilliWerkel
    @WilliWerkel Před 8 lety +180

    Same senseless hate with a Porsche 944.

    • @meatmissilef111
      @meatmissilef111 Před 8 lety +31

      +Willi Werkel Only thing wrong with the 944s is that most are beat to shit now and owned by kids and/or idiots. They are solid cars when well maintained. The Mondial hate is a price vs performance issue. These cars were never that fast but still came with the Ferrari price tag and maintenance costs.

    • @meep6188
      @meep6188 Před 8 lety +14

      +Willi Werkel I love my 944 turbo. she's a beaut

    • @YOLORACER
      @YOLORACER Před 8 lety +1

      What about the 924, the 944 was a very good handling car, not super fast but the turbo version fixed that.

    • @KHAAAAAAAANNN
      @KHAAAAAAAANNN Před 8 lety +5

      +Willi Werkel What?! I dont know anybody who hates the 944.

    • @jsquared1013
      @jsquared1013 Před 8 lety +6

      (in reply to KHAAAAAAAANNN): 911 snobs.

  • @kedr77
    @kedr77 Před 8 lety +14

    What a beautiful video. As a Ferrari enthusiast, I must confirm that I am not a Ferrari mondial fan. Nonetheless I must acknowledge two things. First, this one, in grey with a red interior, is not something that you see everyday, and do bring a lot to this car. Second, the passion of John Pogson for Ferrari in general (especially F40 that he raced extensively) raises interest for every Ferrari enthusiast, I look at the car in the video, and I think " I am missing something here!". Great job Drive and many thanks for you collaboration with John Pogson.

  • @scanspeak00
    @scanspeak00 Před 8 lety +14

    It's great that speed and power don't get mentioned once when defining what is a cool car.

  • @KlunkerRider
    @KlunkerRider Před 8 lety +7

    IMHO the Mondial was never intended to blast around the Nurburgring at warp 11, it was a car totally intended to be more a daily cruiser. Not every Ferrari is a race car, remember the 400, same thing, the 400 was to me more of a daily sedan driver, same here, its not a racer, its a driver.

  • @ducksauce5908
    @ducksauce5908 Před 8 lety +13

    this is literally the most inspirational car video ever

  • @PraviSlobodan
    @PraviSlobodan Před 8 lety +20

    I completely agree... petrolheads/gearheads are all brothers

  • @chrissorreda4982
    @chrissorreda4982 Před 8 lety +17

    Someone gets it. I found someone who likes cars because they are cars. Not because it's cool and that it makes them feel like they have a bigger set of balls. This video makes me happy. I hope one day i personally meet atleast one person that's like him and me also.

    • @jirodriguesjirodrigues1642
      @jirodriguesjirodrigues1642 Před 8 lety +3

      Me and my friends bought a very old and beat up lancia dedra a few years ago. The goal was to have a big old car to take on vacations, night outs, concerts and to the beach. Despite being old it performed flawlessely and despiste being considered one of lancias low points, we loved the car and the brand. Yes, it never was one of lancias finest hours, it was an upmarket fiat tempra but we do loved that car. We all had better cars, but every one of um preferred to drive the dedra. Those alcantara seats, the nice sounding engine, the soft ride, the amount of lights and gauges on the dash... It wasnt a great car, but it was an awesome car, if you know what I mean

  • @VideoNasti
    @VideoNasti Před 8 lety +10

    I have ALWAYS wanted a Ferrari Mondial! Such a great, simple design and I'm a sucker for the under-appreciated/forgotten models. I have seen these going for under £30,000 for years now!

    • @philskype101
      @philskype101 Před rokem

      I bought one 8k and sold it for 5k gbp. when it ran it was great, I did not have the money to keep it tip top

  • @tdolan500
    @tdolan500 Před 8 lety +19

    I'm a ford guy but I've been banging on about this for years. You favourite marquees will never provide you with all the petrolhead experiences. Ford never had a 911t, they never made a series 2 defender, there has never been a Gtr with a blue oval on the bonnets. My dream garage will have plenty of fords in it but there is going to be space for a few other experiences.

    • @jimjames8575
      @jimjames8575 Před 8 lety

      +Terry Dolan well said mr Dolan

    • @VampyrMygg
      @VampyrMygg Před 7 lety +1

      Not against what yer saying,, just wanna point out... Ford Bronco is almost like a Defender in a way, RS200 is like their GT-R, the 911 is correct though, Ford didn't make a rear engined car as far as i'm aware, though again.. the RS200 did compete against the 911 in Rally. :P

    • @unclejoe6811
      @unclejoe6811 Před 2 lety

      Ford GT (all three), Shelby Cobra, Pantera, Original Bronco, Escort Cosworth, Focus RS,ST, Raptor no other automaker has dominated as many market segments. Ford is #1.

  • @braidongreer2172
    @braidongreer2172 Před 8 lety +29

    This really touched me. I grew up in Idaho USA and there everyone owns a truck except they only like people who Ave the same make so all my friends would argue which was better. All that arguing gave me the mind set that if I get a certain car than ther will be some group that will make fun of me for buying that car. so early in my teens I started to like mor obscure cars like Saab and Alfa Romeo and so for my first car I got a Saab 900 turbo. I love it but thanks to John I feel like I shouldn't worry about other people and I should like cars that I feel are good cars.

    • @braidongreer2172
      @braidongreer2172 Před 8 lety +1

      Another reason I got the saab is because I wanted a car I won't have to worry obout parking next to

    • @chrispark4310
      @chrispark4310 Před 4 lety +2

      All that matters really is that you get a grin on your face when you climb into it! Think about the number of people that buy cars all for the wrong reasons. They don’t love cars, they like accessories...Years ago I bought an 90´s BMW and I guarantee you that nobody would have dented my pleasure! It has been the best car I ever had and I miss it. And since then I have had more modern or trendy car that did not give me half that pleasure! So go for your SAAB if that is what you love. I did fancy the 900 years and years ago because I liked the shape and particularly the airplane cockpit windshield.

  • @lenwatson1699
    @lenwatson1699 Před 6 lety +3

    Mondial 8 was my first Ferrari suggested by my wife as I hated the handling of 911s in 80s after the superb 924 turbo. Got a QV as my company car and did 40k miles in 2 years the only problem I had was two diodes in the alternator. Had to stop using as Ferrari prices went ballistic and customers in the north of England thought I must have been ripping them off. Replaced with a Porsche 928 also a great car which did the same mileage for two years just a couple of problems, A 328GTS followed and eventually an F40 which when I moved to Australia I sold (big mistake) as they would not allow it to be registered. My current Ferrari is a 1980 308GTB which is raced in the Ferrari Classic series and is still road registered. Great car to drive and arrive in will never sell it.

  • @Willandern
    @Willandern Před 8 lety +21

    What an amazingly cool guy.

  • @marcandremanfredi3498
    @marcandremanfredi3498 Před 8 lety +22

    an ex Ferrari f1 driver once said.. forget the 348 355 360.. the best car to drive is the Ferrari mondial.. he was questioned why? the answer was it is the only Ferrari you can drive like a go kart!!
    at this he said it was like the f1 of the '80s where the pedals were in front of the wheel arches..
    so it is the Ferrari which is worth less makes you think after all!!

    • @mbchannel1037
      @mbchannel1037 Před 5 lety

      Who is the F1 driver actually said that?

    • @marcandremanfredi3498
      @marcandremanfredi3498 Před 5 lety +5

      @@mbchannel1037 Michele Alboreto Ferrari F1 italian driver who lived in Milan

  • @Bighand4
    @Bighand4 Před 8 lety +4

    I have a Mondial T Coupe. Drove 1200km last weekend. Great car!

  • @marcgomez1013
    @marcgomez1013 Před 7 lety +2

    I could listen to him talk all day, he's so interesting to listen to! Love his racing stories.

  • @bicyclist2
    @bicyclist2 Před rokem +2

    I once saw a metallic gunmetal gray/silver Mondial Coupe as a kid in the 80's. Parked in front of a small marina in northern Michigan. I was gobsmacked and utterly transfixed, as it was the first Ferrari I'd ever seen in real life. It's proportions are absolutely perfect. I still hope to own one some day. Unfortunately I've never even ridden in a Ferrari yet. Thank you.

  • @bottomlayer
    @bottomlayer Před 8 lety +24

    This guy is awesome! Just like the Mondial :)
    You don't need $200,000 to own a cool car. You don't even need $2000 to own a cool car! Any car you can afford can be cool. Car guys/petrolheads/whatevers can enjoy any car. It's about wanting what you have.

  • @DCow000
    @DCow000 Před 8 lety +5

    Tons of comments in here are missing the point entirely. At some point, it isn't about performance or any thing quantifiable - if you love a car just because, that's what really matters. It isn't the fastest or most done up or anything like that, but the Mondial is a neat car. What matters is how your car makes you feel when you drive it, when you look at it, and when you think about it. Don't be so quick to count out your emotions in considering a car. If you love something, don't be afraid to show it just because some speed snob will put you down!

  • @blarkdexture8899
    @blarkdexture8899 Před 8 lety +11

    Small rims tall rubber love it

  • @LordTwaddle
    @LordTwaddle Před 6 lety +2

    I've always had a unbiased opinion on car brands... my issue is I prefer "forgotten" and underrated cars over hype-mobiles. So that means I do like the Mondial, a lot

  • @julesldrake
    @julesldrake Před 8 lety +5

    I used to have a Mustang GT and one day I was out driving it when a rear tire went flat on me. I pulled into a parking lot of some equipment rental place and started changing the tire when one of the guys who worked there came out and asked me if I wanted to borrow a floor jack so of course I said sure. He brought it out to me and while he was standing there he said to me, "should have bought a Chevy." That always struck me as kind of an odd thing to say. Do Chevy's not get flat tires? I don't get the whole car rivalry thing either... it's stupid.

  • @moparvenom287
    @moparvenom287 Před 8 lety +4

    What a wonderful opportunity in life it would be to have the privilege to spend a day with Mr. Pogson. May this man have lots of health and many many years ahead of him, we need more people like him around to make a difference.

  • @princealexander5137
    @princealexander5137 Před 8 lety +3

    Doesn't get better than this! Classic 80s Ferrari styled by Pininfarina, mid-engine V8 and a proper manual gear shift. Brilliant :) Driving doesn't get any more pure than this. Great video!

  • @christopherlubke9231
    @christopherlubke9231 Před 2 lety +1

    I had an 84 Scirocco that wasn’t appreciated here in the south. It was a challenging and fun vehicle to drive. I later had a truck that would pass everything but a gas station, but I’d never dare punch it through windy curves. A Mondial is a dream car for me and most wouldn’t understand.

  • @itzajdmting
    @itzajdmting Před 8 lety +4

    This guy is on the money. Some people always have to argue which is best, rather than just appreciating both.

  • @Kuzalias
    @Kuzalias Před 8 lety +6

    The Mondial is much more beautiful than I realized. Great video.

  • @jon-paulcooper8336
    @jon-paulcooper8336 Před 8 lety +2

    Worked a few years, for a local Ferrari dealer about 15 yrs ago. A few of us younger guys got to talking, (not so positively), about the Mondial while the head Ferrari mechanic overheard. We got a very serious surprise when he said it was an absolute weapon on a racetrack. Probably the best handling "modern", road legal Ferrari (set up properly), up to that point. He was absolutely serious. Not the fastest, the best HANDLING. Very, very neutral in many track situations that other models can't touch. Other models would be a one or two trick pony so to speak...

  • @sfoaviation
    @sfoaviation Před 8 lety +3

    Am I the only one who thinks any car with a prancing horse badge is a classic? its very hard to find one that isn't, even this one.

  • @janrdoh
    @janrdoh Před 8 lety +2

    I love the exhaust note every time he changes up a gear or gets off the gas and normally it's the other way round for me .

  • @jamesdonoghue5907
    @jamesdonoghue5907 Před 3 lety +1

    I watch this video every year or so, thanks JP. My parents had a QV from new in '84 (blue with cream leather) and put 13000 miles on it in about 18 months despite having 2 or 3 other cars. It was loved then and always remembered as being something special. I'm 52 now and would love one. The only times I've had enough cash to get one, family has come first. Maybe one day...

  • @jasonedenilson
    @jasonedenilson Před 8 lety +11

    this guys got the same point of view i have on cars. there are certainly simple branded people who love their brand, and thats it. but i love all kinds of cars, all kinds of brands, engines, body styles, etc. in essence, i try to picture myself in every car, and i always think to myself whenever i get in any car, "I could totally live with this vehicle". I love audis, theyre my preferred brand, but i wouldnt be upset with a bmw, or mercedes, or a GTI at all. I got in a lyft yesterday that happened to be a ford fiesta. that car was nice as hell! i even looked them up to see what they go for in the used market because i liked it so much, but i do that with every car. stay open minded

    • @Swissk31300BO
      @Swissk31300BO Před 8 lety +1

      my thoughts exactly. I would love a 69 charger or a Audi TDI wagon avant. 2 completely different cars but 2 amazing experiences.

    • @jasonedenilson
      @jasonedenilson Před 8 lety

      Jeff Monroe exactly! id love a 60's stang or corvette, but dude, id die for an s4 or s6 avant, or a regular tdi a4 or a6 avant

    • @julianv.5848
      @julianv.5848 Před 6 lety

      YES AS LONG AS IT IS GASOLINE IT IS COOL.......

  • @michaellorenson2997
    @michaellorenson2997 Před 2 lety +2

    This man has enough experience to understand what is important. You'll notice he didn't talk about the numbers at all, only about how cool it is, and he put his effort into optimizing critical details.

  • @ciaocoveney8351
    @ciaocoveney8351 Před 7 lety +7

    I love my QV too, the most brilliant fun I've ever had in a car and, it's a Ferrari.

  • @XxStreetShredderxX
    @XxStreetShredderxX Před 8 lety +15

    This guy kinda changed my way to look at other people´s cars.. lol I guess the Mondial must be a cool car :D

  • @jeffreytruhan4989
    @jeffreytruhan4989 Před 6 lety +1

    I echo this gentleman’s sentiment. I own a Ferrari Mondial Q.V. and it’s an exceptionally fun car to drive. Puts a smile on my face every time I get in it 😀. At the end of the day, as long as it makes you happy, that’s all that matters.

  • @Krista16K
    @Krista16K Před 2 lety +1

    My brother has 4 really cool cars. 1 of which he got at a junk yard for $900 that was set to be scraped. All together they cost about $25k and man, what fun we've had! The love of cars is not about the status they give you but the feeling you get when you're around them.

  • @husky701rider9
    @husky701rider9 Před 8 lety +13

    I wish I could like this video more than once.

  • @cwmitch2
    @cwmitch2 Před 8 lety

    What a great little excerpt into cars.. really enjoyed it Cheers, Colin.

  • @dday216
    @dday216 Před 8 lety +2

    Absolutely love my dads 3.2 Mondial Cab!! Such a fun car, and it sounds amazing!!

  • @daddymulk
    @daddymulk Před 5 lety +4

    Nice to hear someone talking sense, makes me wish i'd bought one a few years back now when on ebay for 4-8k. Worried about the cost etc but after watching wheeler dealers i'd have more convidence in fixing them myself i probably would of bought one. And when you see them in some of my favorite movies like Wierd Science and The Hidden, they do look nice. Didnt most Ferrari nuts say becauss they 4 seater its not a proper one, now when you think about it, how much more practical is it when you can go out in one as a family. Sounds great too

  • @FezzaYT
    @FezzaYT Před 8 lety +2

    I've never been a Mondial fan but in that colour it does look nice. Nice video and I could hear him talk all day!

    • @matthewgodwin3050
      @matthewgodwin3050 Před 6 lety

      Fezza, check out Harry's Garage youtube chanel. Think you'll like it.

  • @ThomasHarrisonLord
    @ThomasHarrisonLord Před 8 lety

    Yes John, great to see you back on Drive!!

  • @pontaverde
    @pontaverde Před 5 lety

    Great message! This video made me look at cars from a different angle.

  • @crizzo450
    @crizzo450 Před 7 lety +1

    My dad used to own an 88' Mondial QV cabriolet but had to sell it for financial reasons. Him and I loved that car and were saddened to see it go. My dad fueled my passion and love for cars without prejudice of brand and that's why I hope one day to find and purchase the same model for him so that we can enjoy it as before.

  • @Mile-long-list
    @Mile-long-list Před 8 lety +1

    it sounds so good! I'm glad he's actually driving it, very nice to see.

  • @josuegonzalez6220
    @josuegonzalez6220 Před 8 lety +3

    Totally agree with his comment, that we should "look at this wonderful world with cars and engines." We should appreciate the diversity in cars and not argue over brands, ect.

  • @ericm.4747
    @ericm.4747 Před 8 lety +1

    What a cool perspective on the Mondial. I find myself guilty of hating on the Mondial, but NO MORE! Great video DRIVE! You guys should do more of these type videos.

  • @manofweed1
    @manofweed1 Před 8 lety +4

    He's right, they've been Waaay underrated for years. I personally find them quite attractive and though not fire balls, more than fast enough, like their predecessors the much maligned 308 GT4. Another more than capable machine (for its day).

  • @liljim4
    @liljim4 Před 8 lety +7

    glad to see someone driving a Ferrari like a ferrari.

  • @oldcargeezer
    @oldcargeezer Před 7 lety +10

    l had a Mondial t. Beautiful car, an event to sit in even before starting it up.
    Sorry l had to sell it! Values have doubled in five years, l think the Mondial particularly the t version is 100% full fat Ferrari experience.

    • @martinredif6297
      @martinredif6297 Před 4 lety

      Lotusdriver hi! I am thinking of buying a Mondial T. Can I ask for your advice? Also does the engine cone out for a belt change? Thank you!

    • @nigel.w
      @nigel.w Před 3 lety

      @@martinredif6297 On the earlier Mondials the engine does not need to come out. However, on the T it does...although my understanding is that it can also be done by removing the fuel tank.

  • @paulrogers6037
    @paulrogers6037 Před 8 lety +3

    For only 300 more pounds (of weight) and thousands of dollars less than a 328, you get better feel, weight distribution, engine access, and two more seats. And the Mondial T had as much hp and more torque at lower RPMs. Who could hate on that?

  • @lgmuniz
    @lgmuniz Před rokem +1

    "...when you get back to the paddock, and the team's really the heroes, not me."
    That speaks volumes about who this man is.

  • @TheAsdrubal200
    @TheAsdrubal200 Před 8 lety

    its wonderfull the passion in the voice of this man , the love about your ferrari mondial, a beatifull car, for people that have the sensivility to apreciate the art of italian sports cars the best in the world in my opinion

  • @mapp4751
    @mapp4751 Před 8 lety +2

    HI,
    very nice video,did not know much about the Mondial,had certainly heard about them,after seeing this would love to have one! by the way where was the video made? very nice scenery! thanks

  • @andybroer651
    @andybroer651 Před rokem

    Nice video. I agree with your comments on the Ferrari/Ford/GM/Lamborghini/Holden folks. I've owned all of them including 4 Maseratis, 2 ALFAs and an Abarth500. (Plus a Triumph TR6, L.R. Discovery, Porsche and more) I love cars! I'm down to 9 at the moment, but I love them all. I love chatting with gear heads at car shows or repair shops. Later this month I'm headed to Monterey, CA for Concorso Italiano for my umpteenth time. Taking my adult daughter with me for her first time. It should be glorious!

  • @bbjnimens
    @bbjnimens Před 6 lety

    Well said Sir.. Great Mondial footage and sound.. Thank you

  • @casualobserver77
    @casualobserver77 Před 8 lety +7

    I couldn't agree more with this guy.
    I love cars. I've always loved Ferrari, but the truth is I'm an equal-opportunity car lover.

  • @eoink8219
    @eoink8219 Před 7 lety +3

    That man talks a lot of sense ! Fascinating insight to his knowledge on Ferrari's and that Mondial looks the business !

  • @kenm251
    @kenm251 Před 2 lety +1

    Such true words from someone who really understands cars, no need to go out and spend a fortune on a supercar, even if you could! . Having owned a performance car sales business and driven everything from McLarens Ferraris and Aston Martins, I get just as much joy and excitement from my £15,000 1975 Fiat 124 Sport coupe, with an ex Ferrari engineer, Lampredi designed twin cam engine! Pick the right car like this amazing Mondial, spend your money wisely and you can still get to experience something as exhilarating as big money can buy!

  • @Beeweediffy
    @Beeweediffy Před 8 lety

    I love this guy! Every time he speaks you're just obliged to listen to him, in every clip he shows up.

  • @burrogrande
    @burrogrande Před 8 lety

    More from Mr Pogson, I am hooked. These stories and cars. Amazing. I could listen to him talk for hours. So perhaps an audio book: John Pogson

  • @Tubingenstr
    @Tubingenstr Před 2 lety

    My most favorite Ferrari. Understated 4 seater midship. I saw mid 40's couple driven nice grey one with full of vacation luggage on backseat at near Portfino Italy. It was very nice. Your viewer from Japan.

  • @desertedham37
    @desertedham37 Před 8 lety +9

    I love cars. I have favorites, but I respect all cars and all other people's favorites

  • @bremms1
    @bremms1 Před 8 lety

    Great video, had a couple modded X-1/9's, Alfa GTV6. Cool cars to me.. Mondial is too.

  • @assikopp123
    @assikopp123 Před 8 lety

    Nice to see him outside without his space blanket.
    Seems that his electromagnetic hypersensitivity is getting better.
    Wish you all the best!

  • @jcwebb540
    @jcwebb540 Před 8 lety +4

    This isn't so much about the Ferrari Mondial, rather a really cool car guy. You should do another video with him.

  • @retrocar7761
    @retrocar7761 Před 6 lety +1

    This guy gets it, there doesn't need to be a constant car war on what's better or not.

  • @shabanakausar3649
    @shabanakausar3649 Před 7 lety +4

    Why would anyone hate this masterpiece?!?

  • @VerboseSlayer
    @VerboseSlayer Před 8 lety +20

    ahh the Mondial, the only Ferrari you won't feel guilty about modifying.

    • @AutoYoung
      @AutoYoung Před 8 lety +3

      348? 360? F430?

    • @Mo-ih4gr
      @Mo-ih4gr Před 8 lety

      +Auto Young f450 haha

    • @AutoYoung
      @AutoYoung Před 8 lety

      +Mo S.
      Huh?

    • @Mo-ih4gr
      @Mo-ih4gr Před 8 lety

      +Auto Young as in the truck? made by ford

    • @AutoYoung
      @AutoYoung Před 8 lety

      +Mo S.
      Oh. Lol. Duh me. Dude I thought you were talking about some Ferrari I've never heard of or the F50. Lol

  • @12w0
    @12w0 Před 8 lety +23

    Welp the prices on Mondials just went up. Thanks /DRIVE!

    • @Boemel
      @Boemel Před 8 lety +3

      +12w0 I remember seeing these for 10 to 15k, now they are +30k :S

    • @maestro8008
      @maestro8008 Před 8 lety +1

      Selling now would be a mistake. Pick a Mondial variant, there are likely

    • @connorfff461
      @connorfff461 Před 8 lety +8

      yep my dad got his for sixteen thousand now worth about 40 grand on the market

    • @F1YMS
      @F1YMS Před 8 lety +2

      +Connor Fff Ferrari prices are just going crazy.

    • @bicyclist2
      @bicyclist2 Před 7 lety

      I once saw a silver Ferrari Mondial coupe in Michigan as a kid and was completely mesmerized by its beauty. It was just like this one except it had the body colored bumpers. I'll never forget it.

  • @p1eased0nteatme
    @p1eased0nteatme Před 8 lety +14

    Ferrari Mondial is possibly my favourite Ferrari.

    • @p1eased0nteatme
      @p1eased0nteatme Před 8 lety +6

      +Michael Charity It's my opinion, not a statement. Read my comment again please.

    • @nikb6528
      @nikb6528 Před 8 lety +4

      +Michael Charity How can he be mistaken about his own sensations?!

    • @davidbarett5269
      @davidbarett5269 Před 8 lety

      +P1eased0nteatme how possibly? like 0,1% possibility?

    • @p1eased0nteatme
      @p1eased0nteatme Před 8 lety +3

      If none of you can take something seriously then so be it. But you can keep your 458s and 430s, I'll be happy with a Mondial.

    • @MbunaMarcus
      @MbunaMarcus Před 8 lety +2

      +P1eased0nteatme ...said no one ever

  • @b.lew_photography571
    @b.lew_photography571 Před 6 lety

    This man is the epitome of a "Car Enthusiast" and we should all aspire to be like him! Absolutely beautiful words of wisdom by Mr. Pogson.

  • @thimble288
    @thimble288 Před 8 lety +3

    These are the best /Drive vids!

    • @thimble288
      @thimble288 Před 8 lety +10

      His point near the end about brand loyalty is great. I have no time for badge snobs. They're not car people! You can't even have a conversation with them about cars because they're so far up their own ass.

  • @Timotheedle
    @Timotheedle Před 8 lety +1

    thats a great looking mondial. have to say I usually see the kind of struck-out mondial with a ratty soft top, a bit of rust anywhere you like, and some big swirls, chips, cracks in the paint; maybe a couple weird panel gaps, especially by that quarter panel vent. but yeah, certainly this mondial at least looks completely wonderful

  • @gripsanity
    @gripsanity Před 8 lety

    Really enjoyed this, and his outlook on cars. I feel the same way about it.

  • @martinclapton2724
    @martinclapton2724 Před rokem +1

    Met people from FOC , a lot of them up their own ass. This guy , the way he comes across , like him a lot . Always loved the Mondial too . Great video.

  • @adampluta9414
    @adampluta9414 Před 8 lety

    Sir Pogson, I jus want to say Thank You. For describing my emotion for cars in a beatiful and empathic way. Thank You. Im glad We share those emotions.

  • @DIYDanCars
    @DIYDanCars Před 7 lety +3

    The Mondial is not my cup of tea but I do respect it for what it is. I remember this car from Weird Science and if I had my choice between the 928 and Mondial, it would be the 928! I do like them both but my heart has always been with the 928! Great video!

    • @DJmixmo
      @DJmixmo Před rokem

      I'm fortunate enough to own both of these cars, a Guards red 1984 928S and a black 1987 Mondial 3.2 Cabriolet. The 928 does get its share of interest at the car shows and around town. The Mondial? That's on another level! I'm glad it isn't red.

  • @jsquared1013
    @jsquared1013 Před 8 lety +1

    I agree with his overarching theme, but the reason so many people hate on the Mondial is that it's simply not a very good car, regardless whether it would have had a Ferrari badge or Toyota or BMW or whatever on it. Note that near the beginning he lists what he had to do to the car to get it to "speak" to him: suspension geometry change, alignment changed from factory, change the spring rates, etc. This is normal for us modder types, but for a car from a "performance" marque it's a bit... odd.
    The reason being that the design just wasn't good to begin with. Ferrari didn't take as much time on the 4-seater as they did with the 12-cylinder cars or even the 308. They simply took a 308 chassis and slapped in a FOOT of extra wheelbase, and didn't change anything else! Same geometry, same steering rack. So you end up with a car that feels long and has a *massive* turning circle and not enough lock. Plus it's now noticeably heavier -- some 600 lbs! -- but with no power increase. Then you have all the quibbles which, to be honest, exist for *any* 80's Ferrari: build quality, parts prices and availability, wearing transmission + metal shift gate = grind gears or remove gate, etc. That, to me, is why the Mondial takes such a hammering from most gearheads. It isn't marque snobbery, it's just that all the care, maintenance frequency/time/expense, etc that it takes to keep an 80's Ferrari on the road just isn't worth it to most people, since the performance isn't there and most people don't think it looks as good as a 308/328. The only redeeming feature is the sound... and again being honest, it IS a great sound :-D
    I'm glad the guy likes his Mondial, though, and I feel back for being a bit savage to it. I guess it goes back to his main point: everyone likes different stuff, who cares what marque it is! Just drive it and have fun.

  • @paulthomson9709
    @paulthomson9709 Před 6 lety +3

    I actually like the Mondial and prefer all the older ferraris over anything they make today

  • @stevenbissiri5511
    @stevenbissiri5511 Před 3 lety

    Amazing little car. Fantastic lines. Always loved them.

  • @blackjacket_
    @blackjacket_ Před 8 lety +1

    This Mr. is the best speaking person on the internet. His well spoken philosophy can be applied all over the life. And I just agree with everything he said. Well done both sides. Im gonna get a drive on my 3g Prelude. Have a nice day folks.

  • @monjiou1
    @monjiou1 Před 7 lety +1

    Nicely done! He is right about cars, to each his own!

  • @bicyclist2
    @bicyclist2 Před 7 lety +1

    Beautiful! Thank you.

  • @antoniogulino3647
    @antoniogulino3647 Před 8 lety

    Put this gentlemen in as many videos as you can, please.

  • @sidewayssam
    @sidewayssam Před 6 lety +1

    I recognise those roads, north yorkshire moors? And i agree completely.

  • @johnslumbers9831
    @johnslumbers9831 Před 8 lety

    John is a great man. The other day I took my 3 year old boy on the of chance to see his Corvette and he sat him in the car took him around the workshop and gave him a toy Ferrari an experience my son will never forget! He is a real gentleman and a true petrol head!