my sorento 2014 died last week. took it to dealership (tow) and they called me yesterday and said they're replacing the engine (127,000 miles) under lifetime warranty (lawsuit). pretty cool seeing what they're going to do to my car. thanks for the video.
THANK U SIR , I TOOK MY HYUNDAI SANTA FE 2014 TO THE DEALER AND EXPLAINED ME IT WAS LEFT WHEEL SENSOR NOT CONNECTONG OR SENDING INFORMATION AND ACCORDING DIAGNOSTIC THE CAR SHUT DOWN AND STALLED, THANK U SIR 4 UR KNOWLEDGE
Great video! Just had my 2015 optima lock up on me with not even 50k miles. I had it towed to kia on 10/17 and still waiting for them to look at it. With guys like you there not to worried about the install time just the time it takes for kia to approve and get the new engine to the dealer.
as soon as someone look at it and start the process, you’re local dealership will receive your engine within a week or two, but dealership will take care customers ahead of you first.
My mom 2014 Kia Sorrento have I think at least 93k miles on it but it would be better to replace the engine if it having the timing issues and all of that stuff
Great video man! Probably going to be doing the same job next week. Glad to see I can go this route rather than dropping everything out the bottom. Only question is…what trans mount comes off to get the angle right to come out the top? Rear one? Any help or time savers would be great thanks.
SORRY TO BOTHER YOU SIR AND TODAY 08/26/21 TIPTON HYUNDAI IN BROWNSVILLE TEXAS THANK U SIR , I TOOK MY HYUNDAI SANTA FE 2014 TO THE DEALER AND ACCORDING TO THE TECNICIAN EXPLAINED TO THE CUSTOMER SERVICE PERSONNEL IT WAS LEFT WHEEL (ABS) SENSOR NOT CONNECTONG OR SENDING INFORMATION AND ACCORDING DIAGNOSTIC THE CAR SHUT DOWN AND STALLED, THANK U SIR 4 UR KNOWLEDGE AND THAT PRETTY MUCH THEY SAYING THAT ONE EPISODE THAT COULD IT BEEN THE REASON SHUT DOWN
MY 2014 SANTA FE SPORT 2.4 STALLED ALMOST REACHING HOME (ENGINE) FOR COUPLE MINUTES I WAITED ENGINE TURNED ON , BUT IN THAT MOMENT ALL LIGHTS IN MY DASBOARD LIGHTED LIKE CHRISTMAS TREE . MY VEHICLE BARELY HAS 50980 MILES AND HAS RUN 2650 MILES FROM LAST OIL DONE AROUND 48295?? HELP !!!!!!!!! I DID GET HOME ANY IDEAS?? GOOD THING I DONT DRIVE FAST ONLY AROUND 40 MILES IN MY CITY (SMALL CITY)
Wow that was awesome. My engine light began flashing today and lost power, had it towed to the nearest Kia Dealer. Hope they have someone like you working on it.
Its just a matter of time,,i had the same signs and the engine seized at 186k while driving in the highway,,but kia replaced the engine with a new one and shoulder the towing expenses every thing for free
@@zedlopez8267 thank you for watching my video, most Kia’s offer 100k miles/ 10 years powertrain warranty, if your car affected on the engine recalls they offer engine lifetime warrant, but recently they changed their warranty policy.
@@moiseslerma3695 Extended lifetime warranty available for 2.0L and 2.4L Kia/Hyundai engine, take your car to the nearest dealership and have them replace your engine at no cost. Good luck.
Kia Cadenza needs to be added to the list. I'm definitely experiencing the connecting rod failure in my 2015. Even though the cars in the US sold just under 50k from 2014-2021, it shares the exact same 3.3L as the sorrento but kia can't seem to own their faults. I can't even find a used motor with a 100k for less than 5k. It's crazy agate they're getting away with. So now I'm just out a car but still have to foot the bill on my new lawn ornament 😥
I’m sorry to hear that, it is impossible to find used KIA engine since they released the service campaign few years ago, most Kia vehicle have 10 yrs 100k miles warranty and yours is just under 50k so factory warranty should take care of you. good luck.
I only wish it was covered but it's got over 100k but I was saying everywhere I've looked for a used engine they're charging anywhere between 5 thousand up to almost 8 thousand on a motor that will likely do the same thing. I did find a completely remanufactured one online through JEGS for less than 6 so if I happen to experience any type of miracle where I can come up with the funds, I'll go that route since it would have no kia parts for internals. Then I'd have an actual good motor. Do you know or anybody know if the motors that kia is manufacturing for the replacements have different bearings at least? Maybe in the spring I can find a place where I can pull the motor myself and see if I'm able to access and replace the bearings myself through the bottom end because I'm not about to do a complete tear down with the cams, timing, and heads. Car still runs great as I stopped driving it the day I heard it knock at startup so I'm hoping the damage inside isn't terrible. But on the other hand, I have no way of telling how much more metal shavings are still floating around in there. I found quite a bit before it started to knock while changing the oil but within 2 weeks it started playing that sad Kia music telling me it wanted to let a rod get out for some fresh air.
I did an alignment after engine replacement, my opinion is every time you do work involve McPherson struts will requires alignment check. Thanks for watching.
awesome video..im going to have to be replacing my engine due to a messed up piston ring..when removing the engine do i need to discharge and remove the a/c system and also do i need to remove the radiator
You don’t have to discharge your a/c system, just remove 4 long bolt on compressor and let it hang, you can also remove an engine out without removing radiator.
@@WrenchingRyan ok thank you so much..i would say im pretty good at working on cars but mostly old chevy 350 blocks and ive swapped the trans in my 2001 honda accord but never done a newer engine..if you dont mind me asking is there anything i should be focusing on more when removing the sorento engine as in removing the axles or anything that you felt makes the job a lil easier
Nice video. My 2017 certified pre-owned Sorento suddenly lost all acceleration on the highway in the middle of no-where. We had to be towed 115 miles to the nearest Kia dealer and then found out that the engine will be replaced. Thankfully, there was no fire and we were able to coast downhill into an obscure turn-around exit and pull into the shoulder safely. It was very troubling and there was absolutely no warning. The car barely hit 47,000 miles and had every appointment with recommended oil changes and service. I hope someone with your skills will be working on it. I've only owned the car for a little over 3 years and frankly, just the regularly scheduled maintenance has been pricey. I've also had issues with the air conditioner and have incurred high costs to address it. Do you have any "after-care" recommendations for consumers to be aware of or watch for? Meanwhile, I have an old 1998 Camry that has over 200K on it and has never, ever once stalled or left me stranded, so I let my children take it with them to their college each school year.
So in replacing an engine, is there any reason that you would have to mess with anything in the steering system? Or have anything to do with the steering column?
Hey @Jason Bautista. So I contacted Kia they said sorry to bad your 2011 Kia Sorento isn’t included. The 2010 and the 2012 and we know the 2012 has the same motor and issues there haven’t been enough complaints. I looked it up and contacted the nhtsb they are sowing a ton of complaints doing the same thing but told me I have to wait till Kia decides to act. But thank you for the help.
@@WrenchingRyan ohhh ok im changing my engine in my 2012 kia sorento front wheel drive and was going off your video and when i got to the axle part i was like theres only a bracket with 2 bolts holding it..but thank you so much i appreciate you getting back to me
Good question and I don’t know the answer lol, when I got hired that cherry picker is already there, my parts guys probably know because he was there forever lol. I go ask him tomorrow and I’ll let you know. Thanks for watching.
@@WrenchingRyan Awesome much appreciated. I do all mine from the bottom with subframes out of the way. Ive watched all your videos and tried them all from the top but I don't have the patience for doing the exhaust and accessories when it's in the car. Good on you dude keep up the amazing videos. 👊
@@behrozqazi4479Thank you brother. 👊 I also do from the bottom before but I don’t know somehow I feel like I’m more efficient pulling them out from the top specially optima.
Hi i saw your video of kia sorento 2016 where the bcm defekt was but then u dont done the replacement video my question did the person have to do the programming after neu bcm installation please reply will be very thanks full
Just got my car back with new motor. It took 16 days for the whole process from towing it in to getting it back.I expected it to be much longer due to all the horror stories I have been reading up on.But it was much less stressful than expected. Keep up the good work and good luck to you!
Question:How much oil are you adding into the new 2.4 motors? I just did the first oil change on my new motor and at least 6 quarts drained out of it,I added a 5 quart jug like I did before and it was just barely over the “L” mark..had to add 3/4 of a quart to get it to “F”..would you know anything about that? Thanks.
Awesome video and perfect job , my wife’s 2012 Kia Sorento 2.4 engine died on highway while driving 65 mph , may 6 2021 , engine just died with no warning lights or nothing , she almost got in bad accident, she was able manage and stop the car, went to her pulled dipstick oil was to F mark but smoke was coming from dipstick hole , probably engine seized , 2800 miles since oil change , towed to Kia dealer which cost me 375$ , waiting for them to diagnose and call me back , also at mean time while waiting for tow truck I called Kia corporate and filed a complaint and open a case ,they told me that as soon dealer diagnose and if the engine is seized due to the recall o, which I did that recall 2017 and got warranty for it . She told me we will reimburse for towing and give u free rental plus new engine ,, car has 126 thousand miles, after reading everywhere ppl having same problem with this engines , and that a lawsuit is about it, at this point finger crossed, we hope they will call with good news .
They will call you with a good news, base on your comment you sound like your maintenance is up to date, dealer must follow flow chart recall before Kia approved it. I don’t see any reason to decline your claim. Thanks.
@@WrenchingRyan just got a call from Kia dealer , they will be putting a brand new engine at no cost to me , they will be taking care the tow truck bill , plus a free rental car , end of may should be done , thanks for response and help
@@WrenchingRyan question if u guys don’t mind answer , since u guys do daily this job , does the engine comes with new pulleys and new serpentine belt or they use from my old engine
@ 7:55 there is a square at the bottom crank seal that is access panel to get/remove flywheel bolt, @ 1:39 I removed the access panel, 22mm to turn crankshaft and 17MM to remove flywheel bolt. I hope this help. Thanks for watching!
my sorento 2014 died last week. took it to dealership (tow) and they called me yesterday and said they're replacing the engine (127,000 miles) under lifetime warranty (lawsuit). pretty cool seeing what they're going to do to my car. thanks for the video.
Your welcome, thank you for watching.
Sir how long did the dealership took the new engine on your sonata?
I meant Sorento Hyundai my bad
@@moiseslerma3695 I think it took a little over a week. with the lawsuit they gave me a free rent a car (a subaru outback)
@@fishrman77 THANK U SIR
THANK U SIR , I TOOK MY HYUNDAI SANTA FE 2014 TO THE DEALER AND EXPLAINED ME IT WAS LEFT WHEEL SENSOR NOT CONNECTONG OR SENDING INFORMATION AND ACCORDING DIAGNOSTIC THE CAR SHUT DOWN AND STALLED, THANK U SIR 4 UR KNOWLEDGE
I’m glad they figured it out. I appreciate your time.
You’re a pro now! Good work!
Thanks Mambas
That Sorento has the same paint flake as mine on the passenger pillar. Also, this gives me an idea how my swap is going to go this weekend.
Great video! Just had my 2015 optima lock up on me with not even 50k miles. I had it towed to kia on 10/17 and still waiting for them to look at it. With guys like you there not to worried about the install time just the time it takes for kia to approve and get the new engine to the dealer.
as soon as someone look at it and start the process, you’re local dealership will receive your engine within a week or two, but dealership will take care customers ahead of you first.
My mom 2014 Kia Sorrento have I think at least 93k miles on it but it would be better to replace the engine if it having the timing issues and all of that stuff
Cool video man, do more like these!!!
I will, thank you for watching, I just uploaded a video similar to this please check it out thanks czcams.com/video/UveZROYeRuY/video.html
Great video man! Probably going to be doing the same job next week. Glad to see I can go this route rather than dropping everything out the bottom. Only question is…what trans mount comes off to get the angle right to come out the top? Rear one? Any help or time savers would be great thanks.
Awesome video!
Thanks!
BY THE WAY AWESOME TIME LAPSED VIDEO KOOL MUSIC BACKGROUND SIR
thank u sir hope you put more videos , cant wait 2 c more videos sir
SORRY TO BOTHER YOU SIR AND TODAY 08/26/21 TIPTON HYUNDAI IN BROWNSVILLE TEXAS THANK U SIR , I TOOK MY HYUNDAI SANTA FE 2014 TO THE DEALER AND ACCORDING TO THE TECNICIAN EXPLAINED TO THE CUSTOMER SERVICE PERSONNEL IT WAS LEFT WHEEL (ABS) SENSOR NOT CONNECTONG OR SENDING INFORMATION AND ACCORDING DIAGNOSTIC THE CAR SHUT DOWN AND STALLED, THANK U SIR 4 UR KNOWLEDGE
AND THAT PRETTY MUCH THEY SAYING THAT ONE EPISODE THAT COULD IT BEEN THE REASON SHUT DOWN
@@moiseslerma3695 Your welcome, i will upload video each week, I appreciate your time watching my video. Take care.
Why do you use a cherry picker instead of dropping it from the bottom? Just curious
MY 2014 SANTA FE SPORT 2.4 STALLED ALMOST REACHING HOME (ENGINE) FOR COUPLE MINUTES I WAITED ENGINE TURNED ON , BUT IN THAT MOMENT ALL LIGHTS IN MY DASBOARD LIGHTED LIKE CHRISTMAS TREE . MY VEHICLE BARELY HAS 50980 MILES AND HAS RUN 2650 MILES FROM LAST OIL DONE AROUND 48295?? HELP !!!!!!!!! I DID GET HOME ANY IDEAS?? GOOD THING I DONT DRIVE FAST ONLY AROUND 40 MILES IN MY CITY (SMALL CITY)
This engine looks like a Honda engine how it looks since it is a i4 ! I'm wondering if you can fit a 350z engine and trans !!
Wow that was awesome. My engine light began flashing today and lost power, had it towed to the nearest Kia Dealer. Hope they have someone like you working on it.
I’m glad you enjoyed it, thank you. I bet they have good ones too.
Its just a matter of time,,i had the same signs and the engine seized at 186k while driving in the highway,,but kia replaced the engine with a new one and shoulder the towing expenses every thing for free
@@zedlopez8267 thank you for watching my video, most Kia’s offer 100k miles/ 10 years powertrain warranty, if your car affected on the engine recalls they offer engine lifetime warrant, but recently they changed their warranty policy.
@@WrenchingRyan SIR THANKU 4 UR INFO, HOW DID THE CHANGE THE WARRANTY POLICY? THANK U SIR
@@moiseslerma3695 Extended lifetime warranty available for 2.0L and 2.4L Kia/Hyundai engine, take your car to the nearest dealership and have them replace your engine at no cost. Good luck.
Kenapa sampai kena tukar engine ye, dalam dia dah habis barai ke, kos tukar enjin macam ni berapa myr?
My 2016 Sorento died. Will be getting a new motor In 2 weeks I'm stoked 🙌
Good deal.
@@WrenchingRyan new motor is Installed and couldn't be happier 😊
Jeez! We drop the entire sub frame to do these at our kia shop we can have it in and out in a day
tried drop the entire sub frame before but doing this way works perfect for me.
Kia Cadenza needs to be added to the list. I'm definitely experiencing the connecting rod failure in my 2015. Even though the cars in the US sold just under 50k from 2014-2021, it shares the exact same 3.3L as the sorrento but kia can't seem to own their faults. I can't even find a used motor with a 100k for less than 5k. It's crazy agate they're getting away with. So now I'm just out a car but still have to foot the bill on my new lawn ornament 😥
I’m sorry to hear that, it is impossible to find used KIA engine since they released the service campaign few years ago, most Kia vehicle have 10 yrs 100k miles warranty and yours is just under 50k so factory warranty should take care of you. good luck.
I only wish it was covered but it's got over 100k but I was saying everywhere I've looked for a used engine they're charging anywhere between 5 thousand up to almost 8 thousand on a motor that will likely do the same thing. I did find a completely remanufactured one online through JEGS for less than 6 so if I happen to experience any type of miracle where I can come up with the funds, I'll go that route since it would have no kia parts for internals. Then I'd have an actual good motor. Do you know or anybody know if the motors that kia is manufacturing for the replacements have different bearings at least? Maybe in the spring I can find a place where I can pull the motor myself and see if I'm able to access and replace the bearings myself through the bottom end because I'm not about to do a complete tear down with the cams, timing, and heads. Car still runs great as I stopped driving it the day I heard it knock at startup so I'm hoping the damage inside isn't terrible. But on the other hand, I have no way of telling how much more metal shavings are still floating around in there. I found quite a bit before it started to knock while changing the oil but within 2 weeks it started playing that sad Kia music telling me it wanted to let a rod get out for some fresh air.
Wheel alignment? I’ve never been successful reattaching strut to hub and getting it perfect even using dirt outlines to put it where I thought it was.
I did an alignment after engine replacement, my opinion is every time you do work involve McPherson struts will requires alignment check. Thanks for watching.
Where did you get the assembled motor from? I called kia and they said they dont sell an assembled motor
This must be a recall engine, i've just left my kia sorento on the dealership today, they are going to change my engine with no cost.
awesome video..im going to have to be replacing my engine due to a messed up piston ring..when removing the engine do i need to discharge and remove the a/c system and also do i need to remove the radiator
You don’t have to discharge your a/c system, just remove 4 long bolt on compressor and let it hang, you can also remove an engine out without removing radiator.
@@WrenchingRyan ok thank you so much..i would say im pretty good at working on cars but mostly old chevy 350 blocks and ive swapped the trans in my 2001 honda accord but never done a newer engine..if you dont mind me asking is there anything i should be focusing on more when removing the sorento engine as in removing the axles or anything that you felt makes the job a lil easier
Nice video. My 2017 certified pre-owned Sorento suddenly lost all acceleration on the highway in the middle of no-where. We had to be towed 115 miles to the nearest Kia dealer and then found out that the engine will be replaced. Thankfully, there was no fire and we were able to coast downhill into an obscure turn-around exit and pull into the shoulder safely. It was very troubling and there was absolutely no warning. The car barely hit 47,000 miles and had every appointment with recommended oil changes and service. I hope someone with your skills will be working on it. I've only owned the car for a little over 3 years and frankly, just the regularly scheduled maintenance has been pricey. I've also had issues with the air conditioner and have incurred high costs to address it. Do you have any "after-care" recommendations for consumers to be aware of or watch for?
Meanwhile, I have an old 1998 Camry that has over 200K on it and has never, ever once stalled or left me stranded, so I let my children take it with them to their college each school year.
sell it
Thank you more vlog
Kenneth Marie Vlog more to come.. thanks for subscribing.
@@WrenchingRyan welcome
They’re replacing my engine also on my 2014 Kia Sorento. Is it best to also change the spark plugs?
New engine comes with spark plugs, don’t worry about it. Thanks for watching.
How much time it took to do it ? And how much for labor roughly we r looking at ?
Thank you for watching my videos, I got it done in about 6 hours, I don’t know about labor cost.
Quick question is this the same way they would it for a 2018 Sorento?
Yeah, probably the only difference is yours is a motor driver power steering which is way easier. Thanks for watching.
So in replacing an engine, is there any reason that you would have to mess with anything in the steering system? Or have anything to do with the steering column?
can you tell me where are you located i would like you to do that on my kia ,right now is at the dealer
I’m located in Oregon, double check with your dealership if your vehicle is still engine lifetime warranty.
Do you have a step by step process, I'm gonna be doing this and I dont have a lift and I know it's going to make it more of a challenge?
Take it to Kia they warranty these 2.4 for the recall
@@NEMOJA i have a 2011 and they told me tough they won't. ill never buy one again
@@matthewhartill784 they should if it has the pi1803 recall. It a lifetime warranty on the 2.4 and and 2.0T.
@@NEMOJA thank you I will look into it further they keep saying it’s a 2011 and that it is 2012 I’ll look with that recall number really appreciate it
Hey @Jason Bautista. So I contacted Kia they said sorry to bad your 2011 Kia Sorento isn’t included. The 2010 and the 2012 and we know the 2012 has the same motor and issues there haven’t been enough complaints. I looked it up and contacted the nhtsb they are sowing a ton of complaints doing the same thing but told me I have to wait till Kia decides to act. But thank you for the help.
question when replacing the engine why did you take off the passenger side axle?
The reason I took the passenger axle off because this is AWD there is one bolt hidden from transfer case.
@@WrenchingRyan ohhh ok im changing my engine in my 2012 kia sorento front wheel drive and was going off your video and when i got to the axle part i was like theres only a bracket with 2 bolts holding it..but thank you so much i appreciate you getting back to me
@@retromeatball4402 there not too bad to work on, thanks for watching And good luck on your project.
@@WrenchingRyan ya it seems pretty straightforward but your video honestly is a life saver thank you so much keeep them coming
Any idea where i can find the rotator you have on the crane?
Good question and I don’t know the answer lol, when I got hired that cherry picker is already there, my parts guys probably know because he was there forever lol. I go ask him tomorrow and I’ll let you know. Thanks for watching.
@@WrenchingRyan Awesome much appreciated. I do all mine from the bottom with subframes out of the way. Ive watched all your videos and tried them all from the top but I don't have the patience for doing the exhaust and accessories when it's in the car. Good on you dude keep up the amazing videos. 👊
@@behrozqazi4479Thank you brother. 👊 I also do from the bottom before but I don’t know somehow I feel like I’m more efficient pulling them out from the top specially optima.
@@behrozqazi4479 I just talked to my parts guy, he got if from Rigging Supply.
Hi i saw your video of kia sorento 2016 where the bcm defekt was but then u dont done the replacement video my question did the person have to do the programming after neu bcm installation please reply will be very thanks full
Yup, after BCM replace both key fob need to be program to the BCM.
@WrenchingRyan only key fob other thing will work right ? And you dont make video how to replace
@@WrenchingRyan and can you please guide where the bcm is located
@@bestefotos8482 just the key fob, the customer declined the service so no replacement video. Sorry.
@@WrenchingRyan how much long can i drive with defect bcm
If they use the same new defective motors it will fail again,if they are using them?
For the first few years we’ve been installing brandnew/improved engine but lately we’re getting improved/reman engine.
Just got my car back with new motor. It took 16 days for the whole process from towing it in to getting it back.I expected it to be much longer due to all the horror stories I have been reading up on.But it was much less stressful than expected. Keep up the good work and good luck to you!
@@kllrazor Glad to hear. Thank you so much.
Question:How much oil are you adding into the new 2.4 motors? I just did the first oil change on my new motor and at least 6 quarts drained out of it,I added a 5 quart jug like I did before and it was just barely over the “L” mark..had to add 3/4 of a quart to get it to “F”..would you know anything about that? Thanks.
How much time did the whole process actually take?
Took me about 5 hours including filming/camera angle. Thanks for watching.
@@WrenchingRyan That's amazingly fast! May I ask which state and city are you located?
what was the actual work time?
Probably around 5 to 6 hours that I’m in it. Thanks for watching.
Awesome video and perfect job , my wife’s 2012 Kia Sorento 2.4 engine died on highway while driving 65 mph , may 6 2021 , engine just died with no warning lights or nothing , she almost got in bad accident, she was able manage and stop the car, went to her pulled dipstick oil was to F mark but smoke was coming from dipstick hole , probably engine seized , 2800 miles since oil change , towed to Kia dealer which cost me 375$ , waiting for them to diagnose and call me back , also at mean time while waiting for tow truck I called Kia corporate and filed a complaint and open a case ,they told me that as soon dealer diagnose and if the engine is seized due to the recall o, which I did that recall 2017 and got warranty for it . She told me we will reimburse for towing and give u free rental plus new engine ,, car has 126 thousand miles, after reading everywhere ppl having same problem with this engines , and that a lawsuit is about it, at this point finger crossed, we hope they will call with good news .
They will call you with a good news, base on your comment you sound like your maintenance is up to date, dealer must follow flow chart recall before Kia approved it. I don’t see any reason to decline your claim. Thanks.
@@WrenchingRyan just got a call from Kia dealer , they will be putting a brand new engine at no cost to me , they will be taking care the tow truck bill , plus a free rental car , end of may should be done , thanks for response and help
@@MegaLeoo1 good deal. Thanks for watching my video.
@@WrenchingRyan question if u guys don’t mind answer , since u guys do daily this job , does the engine comes with new pulleys and new serpentine belt or they use from my old engine
@@MegaLeoo1 engine comes with new crank pulley only, drive belt, idler and tensioner will be re used.
How much for the new motor.
Approximately 6-8K, I still have to double check.
A bonus would be to show how to disconnect the flywhee from the motor through the little secret access panel on the back of the transmission.
@ 7:55 there is a square at the bottom crank seal that is access panel to get/remove flywheel bolt, @ 1:39 I removed the access panel, 22mm to turn crankshaft and 17MM to remove flywheel bolt. I hope this help. Thanks for watching!
here dude..
Done
Not much to those engines.
YeAh, they’re not too bad.
KIA’s are such junk. Never buy one!
some of them yes some not.