The High Price of Progress - Islanders vs Maple Leafs, 2002 ECQF (RE-UPLOAD)
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- To advance in the Stanley Cup Playoffs, a heavy physical toll is incurred as the result of a full-contact game, and hoisting the greatest trophy in all of sports is impossible without braving that gauntlet.
To advance as a sport, sometimes rules that prevent harm cannot exist until harm is done in a way that has not been addressed before. In other words, sometimes progress - by necessity - comes at a price.
In 2002, the New York Islanders and the Toronto Maple Leafs learned just how much they would have to sacrifice to realize both of these ends.
CHAPTERS
00:00-04:08 Introduction & Context
04:08-07:15 Game 1: The Slow Burn
07:15-11:34 Game 2: Mad Dog
11:35-16:07 Game 3: The Coliseum
16:07-23:51 Game 4: The Shot
23:51-29:53 Game 5: The Dark
29:53-35:35 Game 6: Gladiators
35:35-41:42 Game 7: The End
41:42-43:52 Epilogue
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Sorry about the re-upload, everybody. I had to remove some """"unsuitable"""" content (the Corson/Cairns fight). Aside from the fights removed, this version is exactly the same as the prior video, plus some minor corrections.
A video to the full tilt is linked at the corresponding section of Game 6.
EDIT: Demonetized again! :')
The Fights were kind of important. Boo CZcams.
did I mishear, or did you say jake mccabe instead of bryan near the start?
A shame the full fight sequence from Game 6 had to be cut to appease the CZcams gods but it doesn’t discount the excellent work put into this video. To anyone stumbling on this, I really recommend watching the full fight between Cairns and Corson, it’s well worth your time
Yeah YT hates fighting sm.. Yet theyre so inconsistent with it.. One punch and its age restricted. Its annoying
Is it the video clip of the fight that got it taken down or the word fight in the script? Could you get around it by not using certain words ?
Excellent work? Lol suck him harder big boy. A few voice overs is really hard work
It’s almost if as the CZcams CEO is a child and hates anything violent.
That was the best night of my life. I think about it all the time. A guy from Pittsburgh sat next to us and couldn’t believe how crazy that place was.
This Isles team was the reason to me that the Leafs didn't make the finals in 2002; this was the most physical first round series i've ever seen in my life. By the time Toronto got to Carolina, they were beat the hell up.
Kind of but not really. Leafs had a lot of players hurt and were winning without them. Alyn McCauley and Gary Roberts were playing like they had played together their whole lives. DYNAMITE together. Everyone was working their asses off. We got to the semi's against Carolina and MAGICALLY all of our players were healed. First and foremost was Mats Sundin, who stepped back into the 1st line and broke McCauley and Roberts up. That was the beginning of the end................
@@jessewahwahwhen we traded for sundin i said we'll never win a cup with him. nice guy..... wrong mentality.
@@TheBillarowhat made you say that back then? doesn’t he have a reputation for being a big game player? Captain Clutch?
@@eriklakeland3857 sundin sucked unless he was playing for sweden
Bob Cole is the voice of my childhood.I will hear his voice calling this series and Joe Sakic winning the gold medal in Salt Lake City in my head until my last day. 👍🏻
its actually incredible how the islanders pushed the leafs to the brink. to also think this was their last truly meaningful playoff series until 2013 against the penguins. i'll miss nassau. that place was a madhouse for playoff hockey.
I mentioned it in the comments of the last video, but this series really did their core in pre-maturely. A fully healthy Peca and Jonsson likely mean the Islanders don’t have to face Ottawa in 2003 or Tampa Bay in 2004 and might’ve actually had a chance to win a round, maybe even go deep by 2004 when DiPietro came into his own
Bob Cole was so damn good. Truly didn’t realize how good I had it.
Shawn bates penalty shot gives me goosebumps to this day
You need to do a deep dive on the Flyers vs Penguins series from 2012. That is one of the all-time greats and the story deserves to be told for those unaware
I strongly agree. That’s the Flyers team that made me a hockey fan and the series that cemented my love for the sport.
I'd like to see a deep dive on EVERY Pens Vs. Flyers series 2008-2018 ... but ESPECIALLY 2012
This series was the "old NHL" at its' absolute best
One perfect series to show why the old arenas had such a gravity to them. Fort Neverlose, the Joe, and the Igloo all allowed fans to make the series their own. And also, Dave and Neil in game 4 with much better announcing than what they're given credit for.
If the Leafs had resigned Steve Thomas they might have gone to the Stanley Cup Finals. 3/6 games in their Carolina series went to overtime. They could have used Thomas' overtime heroics that carried Toronto past Ottawa in years prior and helped Anaheim to the Finals.
Peca looking at Tucker going nuts is amazing. 🤩
As a Long Island boy, this was the first time I watched hockey. And I instantly got hooked.
I am still a die-hard Islanders fan 21 years later, and I'm not sure I would have become such a hardcore fan if it wasn't for a series this good.
Rip Wade Belak
the part where you accidentally say jake mccabe instead of bryan is a lot funnier now that he's been traded to the leafs. the gift of prophecy 😂
I feel like this is your best vid to model your content after. Obviously all of your content is great; the writing and editing are always superb and you clearly know your shit. But here it feels like you were on a roll.
You posted that poll a week or so ago, and the first thing that popped in my head was this vid as I was voting. Because I think it’s here where you’ve found your stride.
Anyway, just a bit of feedback I thought I’d offer. Your vids are awesome. Please keep doing this.
I agree! By random chance I think everything sort of came together eith his one; the story, the writing, the music, etc. Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching! :)
Coming right on back to say that this was the video that got me onto your stuff. Great work, to hell with the algorithm.
Thanks for watching! :)
@@PinholesGraham Absolutely! If you’re looking for recommendations on what to do next, the 2006 ECF would be a great series to cover. It was the series that actually decided the Cup that year: my Hurricanes against the Sabres (well Ryan Miller and what was left of the rest of the Sabres). It was a great series.
@@rjhaney2614 It's on the short list! :)
@@PinholesGraham Awesome! My favorite quote about the series was "You'd ask people what the differences were and they couldn't come up with any!" Even for an absolute nerd like me who find all of the bullcrap details possible. Both teams finished one spot behind the Senators (for the Sabres it was in the division for the Canes it was in the Conference), both teams beat their first round opponent in six games *and* beat their second round opponent in five games (hell, the structure of the five game series was the same for both: WWWLW), both goalies were playing their first playoff hockey, their colors were the same, their styles were identical...what a great series.
Maybe it’s the islanders bias but I think there are 3 kinds of barns in the NHL: barns that are quiet but can get loud, barns that are loud, and barns that aren’t just loud but are alive as if you can feel the building breathe with every play and stoppage.
Nassau Coliseum was one of those buildings that breathed even when the Islanders stunk. Maybe it’s the low ceilings in the 300’s, maybe it’s the history but Nassau was alive.
Ok I may be a biased Isles fan but wow the difference in volume between the coliseum and the air canada centre. That's incredible. I love Isles fans
As a Leafs fan the atmosphere in Toronto is a joke, real fans have been priced out for decades now. It's probably not cheap at the new arena anymore but I imagine in 2002 Long Island, real blue collar fans could actually get in the building and get good seats. That plus the small size and intimacy makes for a tremendous atmosphere.
A Leafs road game in Buffalo or Ottawa has a better atmosphere than a home game. It's sad
This series was the Mighty Ducks movie meets Pulp fiction as an Islander fan that lost depressed me throughout that ‘02 summer, so many ‘ifs’ The Isles would have to wait 14 long years just to pass the 1st round
I'm an islanders fan from Australia. I saw them when I was 12 years old during the 97&98 season and have been a fan ever since. This is the best thing I've ever seen on the islanders as I was about 16 when this happened but this is a great episode. Well done. I wish the islanders went back to there aqua jerseys hahah. All the best. Jesse James Heber Melbourne Australia
As a wings fan, Ozzy is criminally underrated..
Love these recaps! Keep ‘em coming!
Thanks for the deep dive. A great, great series.
This brings back a lot of nostalgia.
Good info, great editing, and amazing story telling.
Please keep these going.
Great storytelling! Cant wait for the next Leafs video!
So many great playoff series to be talked about! Can’t wait to watch these types of vids for years to come :D
What an incredible movie this was. Thanks for it.
Great video!
We need more videos bud. This is quality stuff
I'm so glad to have found your channel. it's incredible! please keep the content coming, particularly these series videos. great work!
Thanks so much :) Welcome aboard!
Thanks to you I video matched my Kaberle game worn jersey to this series. 🙏 Once again great video.
These series deep dives are so good. PLEASE keep them coming. Excellent work
Thanks Zach! I appreciate you watching, and I will definitely make more :)
Such an underrated channel. Very well done, I always look forward to your uploads. Thanks for doing what you do!
Much appreciated! Thanks for watching :)
Just found the channel and I love the vids!
Thanks, Peter!
Dude. What an awesome channel. Instant Sub.✌️🇺🇲
10:51 Look at the time he scored that empty netter, Hockey gods loved playing with Leafs fans
sucks game 6 had to be cut. Cairns v Corson is the highlight of the series lol
Not all of game 6! Just that fight. And once you get to it in the video, there's a link to the full thing. :)
Alyn McCauley had 16 points in 82 games that season. The guy had offensive talent but Put Pat Quinn wasn't interested in giving him a shot. Mats Sundin got hurt in this series and McCauley was bumped up to 1st line center and was playing with Gary Roberts. The 2 were fucking magic together. Alyn McCauley had 15 points in 13 playoff games while playing with Roberts while Mats was out for half of this series, and all of the next one against Ottawa.
Toronto (as per universal laws) dumped Ottawa from the playoffs and moved into the semi's against Carolina. Mats was still out. McCauley and Roberts were together for a game 1 win. Mats Sundin came back for game 2. Pat Quinn left Roberts and McCauley together and they both picked up a point, but the Leafs lost. And that was it.
McCauley started sliding up and down the lineup again in game 3. Him and Roberts were broken up. From that point on in the next 4 games neither picked up a single point as Carolina beat Toronto in 6 games. Before they were together Alyn McCauley played little as 7 minutes against the Islanders. With Roberts he was averaging over 20 and played 35 minutes in an 3OT classic against The Sens. By the time Carolina ended Toronto's season McCauley was back down to 17 minutes.
Pat Quinn caught lightning in a bottle and somehow didn't realize it. As soon as Toronto lost he went back to the status quo and it cost us.
Blake was huge in this series and I think a big reason why the 'truculence' era of the Leafs went out and got him shortly after
Amazing video
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Another fantastic video on this channel. I wait for a post from Pinholes every single day
This is pretty cool. I will have to check this out in greater detail later. Hopefully you'll be hockey's answer to JaguarGator9
Yayyyyy it’s back!!!
A classic vid!
That 2002 ECF loss would come from an unexpected entity in the 3 seed Carolina Hurricanes, who lost to the devils in the first round the previous season.
I find it interesting how you kind of predicted the future in a way with the McCabe mistake😂 Nice video, man:)
You need to do a deep dive on 1996 Blackhawks/Avalanche one of the better 2nd round series to go 6 games (but with 7 OT periods it felt like 7 games) and Chicago’s last shot at a Cup for a long time
That 3D thing you saw (8:19) is no commercial. It is music video to Pantera’s Planet Caravan (Black Sabbath cover).
This was quite entertaining
That was a great series
Do a deep dive on the 2006 Stanley cup finals Edmonton vs. Carolina very underated series
This series was insane.
Mannnn i miss Doc Emrick on the mic calling the action. Im a Devils fan who had the pleasure of listening to him for a long time and on national games. He was simply the best
You should do a deep dive on one of the greatest playoff comebacks, like the Sharks vs Kings in 2014. Or maybe a deep dive on a team that made a miracle run, like the Blues in 2019.
All Kings series in 2014 needs to be retold, what an amazing team and amazing story. That team just refused to lose.
As a sharks fan, I would prefer to not bring up 2014 ever again. Great story, I don't want to hear it a second time.
The Bay Street Bullies: Roberts, Tucker, Corson, Domi, Belak. Like the Broad Street Bullies but without the cups.
As a leafs fan born a few years after this series, I’m very glad I wasn’t alive to watch this. I can’t imagine the stress watching this live for either fan base!
I almost had a stroke at age 11 watching this as a Leafs fan
I remember watching every game of this series and I'm shocked you haven't mentioned Steve Webb!
You should do a video about the 2010 world juniors gold medal game. Gotta be one of the best finals ever and I don’t hear it talked about enough
I was wondering when Travis Green was mentioned, it’s the same Travis Green that was the interim coach for the NJ Devils this season, and was hired as the coach for the Ottawa Senators recently.
I saved the original vid and strangely still have it. Maybe CZcams in Britain doesn't care so much. Eric Cairns did play here after all. 😊
Remember the penalty shot very clearly. What a moment. This was a great series.
You should do one of these on the 2021 Isles Lightning series
I'm still upset that the Islanders didn't pull this off. The Toronto series against Ottawa in Round 2 broke me. Ottawa was up 2-0 in Game 6, set to eliminate the "Leaves", then Ricard Persson took the dumbest major penalty in team history and blew the lead for us. The Sens never got proper satisfaction against Sundin-era TML despite being the better team in all 4 series (as I recall).
Peca’s response to Darcy Tucker 😂😂
The bates penalty shot is iconic hockey lore
I love the subtle shots at the leafs lol…
Lol Corson getting his ass handed to him ,and the Isles fans triggering the now unhinged Tucker in gm 6 😂😂 Priceless 😆
Wait so the one fight in game 6 was cut off in the original video?
It has been 21 years since this playoff series and scientists are still searching for answers as to what the hell that was in the background of game 1
Where do you find this footage
OK OK hold on, did you use the Civ3 intro music for this and, as a follow up, how did you know exactly which two topics would turn my crank this much?
And a follow up, I don't even care you earned yourself the first follow I've ever given out.
Series ideas: -1997 Ducks vs. Wings. -1998: Coyotes vs. Wings. -2002: Blues vs. Wings. -2008: Nashville vs. Detroit. -2009: Columbus vs. Detroit. -2010/2011: Coyotes vs. Wings. 2013: Blackhawks vs. Wings. -2015: Tampa Bay vs. Detroit.
15:35 You used a picture of the 2002-03 Leafs, that's Ed Belfour in net.
2009 red wings & ducks next?
Do you prefer that one over their 2013 matchup? :)
@@PinholesGraham Undoubtably. The 2009 series was one of the best I’ve ever seen. It was an all out war.
1000% yes. I was at that game 7. Best live game I've ever seen
Bump
I was cheering for the islanders the whole time because i did not know how it ended and because of how dirty the leafs where playing and the underdog story for the islanders i really wish they pulled it off kind of a sad ending
Steve Webb was a fucking monster in the series
Do more of these
You should do 1997 oilers vs dallas
There you go, you somewhat fixed the Bryan McCabe mistake
But his son still plays hockey
@@ianzang2178who is his son?
How about Domi on the PP?!
What happened to get the video taken down?
Don't know - CZcams doesn't say why they block videos, only that they have. 😐
1996 Stanley Cup Finals, the RAT TRICK SEASON
Edit: 96 ECF or 96 FLA vs PHI probably a better choice
96 Pens-Caps and ECF should be covered. And the Panthers-Flyers duology.
That 96 ECF honestly brought hockey to its knees. It took a lockout and a whole bunch of rules changes to unscrew the league after the Panthers won that one.
@@Pensfan5919 damn you’re right, ECF is probably better since the SCF was a sweep
Do the 1992 Stanley cup finals
Sure, I can watch The Most Confident Wrist Shot (TM) another time!
I really wanna know why those football players were there in full gear like that
14:26 foreshadowing.
Webb was a wrecking ball!
One of my favorite series of all time, and I’m not a fan of either team. Just an absolutely war
Tucker hit looks fine to me .. I don’t get it 🤷🏻♂️
Gary Roberts showed how much of a pretender he was in this series. Jumping Czerkawski and injuring Jonsson at the same time running away from Jim Cummins. Cummins challenged him to a fight at the start of Game 6 and Roberts wanted nothing to do with it. Huge spot picker.
laughable recollection of events
5:36 im timestamping this just so i can try to figure out wtf that is once im done watching the video
is it like... an American football ad? but why? and isn't that an exit/entrance or something, like there's a hallway there, right? so how are they- yeah i have no answers
10:01 proto rvh!!!
That Maple Leafs team was full of assholes I hated them during those years. They had battles with my team the flyers too.
How the hell is Curtis Joseph not in the HOF. How the hell did Vernon get in ahead of him?!
Like ffs, OSGOODE had a better career than Vernon.
Engagement
Thank you sir!
Greasy Leafs team glad they never won
I find it unfair that Roberts and Tucker can take two of NY's top players out yet they can keep playing.
Connie McPrincess wouldn't survive in this era. Hitting was actually allowed
Bump
Thank you! You're doing the lord's work :)