Thanks man... this will make my life so much easier... I am just about getting ready to build my first ever carbon frame aero road bike and I wasn't going to go Di2 as i thought it would be way too hard/complicated to assemble... but you changed my mind after watching your video... Now I gotta come up with the extra $$ to buy al the extra parts but... I think it will be SWEET... LIKED and SUBSCRIBED. Peace!
being a mechanical user i thought of upgrading to di2 after watching this video, I'm put off by the installation process. I might need to switch groupsets to Sram etap force. Seems like Shimano still cannot get things to work wirelessly.
More like a Q. Must I removed the Bottom Bracket to successfully upgrade my system to R8050 or is there a way/hack around it? My 2017 TCR Advanced has capped hole on Top Tube forward-drive side and another capped hole lower Seat Tube drive side behind the crankset. Are those holes for Di2 electronic wire routing. Btw, great channel and thanks
Marc Bautista that sounds like ports for di2 indeed. I think it would be very hard to route di2 with the bottom bracket in... might be possible to fiddle your way trough the down tube if you remove the fork. I manage to remove a full di2 setup without removing the BB, but I think installing it will be a lot more challenging... good challenge for a future video 😅
Would zip ties along the rear brake hose that runs through the frame be an effective substitute for the foam tube, to prevent rattles? Thank you for the very helpful, clear and precise video tutorials.
A brake hose is most likely too stiff and heavy to be held in place by zip ties alone. You can make your own damping material pretty easy yourself though: czcams.com/video/Po3rQAimrDU/video.html
Speaking of the foam tubing that was supplied by Open, any thoughts of a good substitute that can be purchased elsewhere? Seems like a good idea and like to use something similar. thanks
Thanks for the really helpful video. Question, you didnt use a Y cable for the handlebars right? You're using two separate cables for the shifters? Sorry Was having trouble following the routing of that part.
@@ridesofjapan Thank you brother. I was a newbie in April, and have learned so much now I can help others. My next project is going to install Di2 on my lynskey, and your video is very well done and super helpful and informative. THANK YOU!!! - thanks for the prompt response too
I have some Easton EC70 AX carbon bars. I'm taking it it's ok to drill carbon? Drilling aluminium is one thing, carbon ok? I'm hoping so. Love your attention to detail when building etc.
@@simonpattison5598 It will void any warranty, so it's always at your own risk. I would be a bit more careful than with metal, don't drill more than you have to etc. and wear a mask as you don't wan to inhale any carbon dust. Cheers!
Because I use a 11-42 cassette and a single ring in the front, that is too big for a road derailleur. Also the XT mech has clutch to help with chain retention.
I really enjoy your bike building videos and am planning on doing a Di2 build myself. I plan on traveling to Japan in April. Do you think I can get better pricing on Shimano gear in Japan than outside? If so, where would you recommend I go? Thanks
Michael Meagher cheers. I think it will be hard finding any massive bargains in-store here. Most store just list part at or around rrp. Hard to beat online prices I think.
Miloslav Sirovy thanks! I used som cheap stuff from amazon Japan. Can’t find it on us amazon. It it’s 8mm diameter and is suppose to shrink to 50% if it’s original size.
Very helpful. Loving the drone footage. I was planning on fitting the BW-WU111 ANT+ / Bluetooth transmitter thingy inside my alloy bars, so that it sits in the middle closest to my Garmin. Do you think the Bluetooth signal will pass through the alloy bars? Should I stop before I hurt myself / someone with wifi signal frustration?
Rhys Williams I actually haven’t tried it myself so can’t say either way. My gut feeling is that it should work though. Personally I only connect my Bluetooth unit when doing an updated or configuring the buttons.
Hi Rides of Japan, great channel - many thanks. Question: does your home made cable guide (made with the brake ferrule) remove the need to buy something like the Park Tool magnetic IR-1.2 Internal Routing Kit? Tack.
Nice! 👍 On the Partslist for the Di2 Wires 1400mm for the Handlebar. I plan also to put everything inside the frame an handlebar but is 1400 not to long for the Handlebar (junction to the left shifter)?
Patrick Katzmair I thought so as well. I had the 1400mm already and tried it, and while there some slack to stuff into the ends , I reckon it actually helps with the rattling. You could probably get away with 1200mm... but I definitely needed more than I thought I would... handlebar with + 20cm or something like that won’t be enough... those drops at long 😅
How did you get the di2 cable thru the canyon h31 cockpit? I can get the rope thru it but no chance with the di2 cable attached to it. I think i have to route it externly under the canyon cockpit?!
Hi Again. I want to use an 11-42T XT Cassette with my Ultegra 2x 34/50T Crankset and Di2. Do you think I should go for the XT Derailleur or the Ultegra R8050 model OR the RX8050 Derailleur? I will for sure be using a new B-Link from WoolfTooth... probably the Roadlink DM.
You can’t pair an XT di2 derailleur with road front one so Definitely the Rx8050 if it were up to me. Roadlink DM sounds like the best/cleanest solution there 👍
Hey man, would you recommend using internal foam damper for the Di2 cables instead of the Di2 wire holder clips for dampening sound inside the frame? I've seen in another video where a guy used Jagwire foam damper for the Di2 cables and housing.
the foam tube is made the brake hose... I don't think it makes too much sense using it for the Di2 cable... I guess you could but the cable clips work great, and if you for whatever reason need to remove the cables it's easier just dealing with the clips in my opinion.
Hi, just wondering what diameter of the Heat Shrink Tubing do you use for the rear brake hose and di2 cable going to the frame? and also for the front brake? thanks
Hi i do saw a link there but wondering what size should be better (length and diameter) for the hose and di2 wire that going to the frame. they have 1/2 inch and bunch of others, wondering which one is better. thanks!
Chang measure you cables and get tubing that’s a bit longer, or just get the longest option and then cut it down to your cable length. That’s probably the best way.
nunatak gear thanks mate! This one should work amzn.to/2HBzImw 1/4 inch diameter size should be ok. I used a 8mm one in this video. Can only seem to find that in the Japanese Amazon.
Hard to say, there still a good chance the cable from the frame junction is too short to reach the nearest shift lever (that would be the shortest way to route the cable)
If I am not mistaken, current Di2 is lighter than mechanical, but only by a few grams. The difference becomes greater when wires and cables are factored in.
I use the cover for mech shifting. I do think then released a special "no-ports" cover for electronic shifting now. But I never had any problem with the normal cover.
Well done! How long did the whole thing take? I think 1/2 way through I would have had to have a self imposed time out in a padded room. BTW, not being familiar with the Open frame, was it an upgrade over the Bokeh or just a replacement?
Haha, yeah.... making sure you film every thing makes a evenings build take forever hehe. I would say it’s an upgrade for me as it will be my only bike. I wanted something a bit lighter as 90% of our rides are in the mountains. That being said, the Bokeh is an awesome bike, would have been happy continue riding that as well. But The stars aligned to make this frame a reality.
Joshua Amaral correct, same button configuration on both levers. Only difference is the hidden button on top of the levers that’s set to shift up on the right and shift down on the left lever.
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Probably the most informative di2 installation video on youtube.
Could this be the greatest cycling vlog of all time?
Great video! Love your idea on using a vacuum to suck the cable through the handlebar.
Thanks man... this will make my life so much easier... I am just about getting ready to build my first ever carbon frame aero road bike and I wasn't going to go Di2 as i thought it would be way too hard/complicated to assemble... but you changed my mind after watching your video... Now I gotta come up with the extra $$ to buy al the extra parts but... I think it will be SWEET...
LIKED and SUBSCRIBED. Peace!
Dick Tchairdjian cheers mate! 🙏
Good luck with the build 👍
Thank you for the prompt reply- keep up the good work with the bike build videos!
Video length was good and detailed. I want to put together a similar Di2 setup and you gave me some good ideas. Thanks!
Very nice bike! I am a big fan of OPEN and I have been enjoying my UP as well especially on off road rides and gravel grinding.
Simple, precise and above all, very clear! Great DIY vid. Keep up the good work.
Merci pour cette vidéo.
The UP would be a great bike for the UP (upper peninsula) of Michigan. Tons of paths and gravel roads.
You can spray a little bit of isopropyl alcohol into the foam tube to make it easier to slide over the hose. The alcohol dries pretty quick
I see new video from you, I click, I watch and I smile. Much love from the U.K and keep up the awesome content!
Great video, really helped me building my bike!
wow~~~~~~~~~~~~~aresome~~~ thx~~!!!^^~ from korea
really helpful video, great work.!
Nice build! Beatutiful Bike. Great Video too. Greetings.
Beautiful build and great video!!
Got excited when you said you'd prepared the Ho's 😂
Quality vid, will refer back to it with my new build shortly! : )
Very well done, and equally useful. Thank you.
Great video.
Great videos!
Alcohol sprayed on the housing before you slide on the foam tube works to make it easy and then it eventually evaporates.
A. Random awesome! Cheers for the tip! 👍
Dude, you are hilarious. Keep up the good work.
Great share! Thanks
Wah, what an intro!
bro you inspired me to redo my bike a road bike into a 1x lol your awesome bro and your vids
Thank you so much. Love your videos ,very helpful!!!
Very well , but need also for mtb Di2 cable routing, battery located in steerer tube.
being a mechanical user i thought of upgrading to di2 after watching this video, I'm put off by the installation process. I might need to switch groupsets to Sram etap force. Seems like Shimano still cannot get things to work wirelessly.
Nice job; well explained.
Might add tips on how much extra to leave near handlebars to allow for turning/crashes (could be in another vid?).
George Hugh check here: czcams.com/video/6Vv5TXBziHs/video.html
If it dose t jump to the right time stamp it’s at 11:45
@@ridesofjapan Thanks! I watched half of that video too (you're a thorough "bleeder").
To get it thru the foam tube extremely easily, use electricians wire pulling lube.
Amazing!
"frustration: zero" haha
Thank you so much :)
More like a Q. Must I removed the Bottom Bracket to successfully upgrade my system to R8050 or is there a way/hack around it? My 2017 TCR Advanced has capped hole on Top Tube forward-drive side and another capped hole lower Seat Tube drive side behind the crankset. Are those holes for Di2 electronic wire routing. Btw, great channel and thanks
Marc Bautista that sounds like ports for di2 indeed.
I think it would be very hard to route di2 with the bottom bracket in... might be possible to fiddle your way trough the down tube if you remove the fork.
I manage to remove a full di2 setup without removing the BB, but I think installing it will be a lot more challenging...
good challenge for a future video 😅
@@ridesofjapan thank you much! I guess I'll have to change bottom bracket then as I am not ready for expensive screw up. :-)
Would zip ties along the rear brake hose that runs through the frame be an effective substitute for the foam tube, to prevent rattles? Thank you for the very helpful, clear and precise video tutorials.
A brake hose is most likely too stiff and heavy to be held in place by zip ties alone. You can make your own damping material pretty easy yourself though: czcams.com/video/Po3rQAimrDU/video.html
Grym video 👌🏻
Helo i want to ask, right side lever is connect to bar end junction,
How about connect left lever n bb juction ?
Check 9:35 in the video 👍
Oh im sorry.. im understand now🙏👍👍
Speaking of the foam tubing that was supplied by Open, any thoughts of a good substitute that can be purchased elsewhere? Seems like a good idea and like to use something similar. thanks
Checkout this old video on what I did for my old Mason bike czcams.com/video/Po3rQAimrDU/video.html
Thanks for the really helpful video. Question, you didnt use a Y cable for the handlebars right? You're using two separate cables for the shifters? Sorry Was having trouble following the routing of that part.
Yes, no y-cable. The shifters are connected together with one cable, and from one shifter to the junction with the other cable.
@@ridesofjapan Thank you brother. I was a newbie in April, and have learned so much now I can help others. My next project is going to install Di2 on my lynskey, and your video is very well done and super helpful and informative. THANK YOU!!! - thanks for the prompt response too
Did you drill the carbon bars or do they come with holes? Can't seem to find that model on the internet?
I drilled holes myself, same method as I shoe in his video czcams.com/video/cON3w1IL_7k/video.html
@@ridesofjapan thankyou for taking the time to reply. Much appreciated. Love your videos by the way! Hope all is well with you. Chapeau...
I have some Easton EC70 AX carbon bars. I'm taking it it's ok to drill carbon? Drilling aluminium is one thing, carbon ok? I'm hoping so. Love your attention to detail when building etc.
@@simonpattison5598 It will void any warranty, so it's always at your own risk. I would be a bit more careful than with metal, don't drill more than you have to etc.
and wear a mask as you don't wan to inhale any carbon dust.
Cheers!
Hi why did you use an XT rear mech instead of the regular road derailleur
Because I use a 11-42 cassette and a single ring in the front, that is too big for a road derailleur. Also the XT mech has clutch to help with chain retention.
@@ridesofjapan how can a mtb di2 rear derailleur work with a road di2 lever? shimano say they cannot mixed.
Only Di2 combination that doesn’t work is mixing a front road derailleur with a MTB rear derailleur (or vice versa)
@@ridesofjapan i'll build also a cyclocross set-up with di2 xtr RD and di2 ultegra road levers. i have been search for this answer. thank you so much.
I really enjoy your bike building videos and am planning on doing a Di2 build myself. I plan on traveling to Japan in April. Do you think I can get better pricing on Shimano gear in Japan than outside? If so, where would you recommend I go? Thanks
Michael Meagher cheers.
I think it will be hard finding any massive bargains in-store here. Most store just list part at or around rrp.
Hard to beat online prices I think.
Thanks. Will look forward to further videos
Hi, thanks for really useful video! I enjoy it. Which heat shrink tubes do you use? Any tips? Do you know the diameter and contraction ratio?
Miloslav Sirovy thanks!
I used som cheap stuff from amazon Japan. Can’t find it on us amazon. It it’s 8mm diameter and is suppose to shrink to 50% if it’s original size.
Do you not need a ewds50 from front mech to junction box?
George Henderson I don’t have a front mech, so no, I don’t ;)
My bad 🤦🏽♂️
Very helpful. Loving the drone footage. I was planning on fitting the BW-WU111 ANT+ / Bluetooth transmitter thingy inside my alloy bars, so that it sits in the middle closest to my Garmin. Do you think the Bluetooth signal will pass through the alloy bars? Should I stop before I hurt myself / someone with wifi signal frustration?
Rhys Williams I actually haven’t tried it myself so can’t say either way. My gut feeling is that it should work though.
Personally I only connect my Bluetooth unit when doing an updated or configuring the buttons.
Hi, EW-WU111 should be according Shimano outside the handlebar/stem/frame. Do you try it if it works inside? It would look more clean. Thanks
Miloslav Sirovy yes, it works fine. Connects with my phone and Garmin without issue. I’m running Pro alloy bars. Hope this helps!
@@ridesofjapan Hi, when you connect it. where does it go?
@@olepetterdahlman1013 czcams.com/video/TaaVWHOltUc/video.html
Did you use the BB cable guide or left it out? I'm building an Open Up classic with di2 and the guide doesn't want to fit because of my BB.
Hmm... Yes I use the guide just not to have a gaping hole there. But you should be able to cover it with something else I reckon 🤔
Btw whey are you sure it Dosen't fit? I had to give it a wack with a rubber mallet to pop it back in after I finished the build
Got it to fit, just had to go in before the BB. :)
Matthew Lew excellent!
Hi Rides of Japan, great channel - many thanks. Question: does your home made cable guide (made with the brake ferrule) remove the need to buy something like the Park Tool magnetic IR-1.2 Internal Routing Kit? Tack.
Nice! 👍 On the Partslist for the Di2 Wires 1400mm for the Handlebar. I plan also to put everything inside the frame an handlebar but is 1400 not to long for the Handlebar (junction to the left shifter)?
Patrick Katzmair I thought so as well. I had the 1400mm already and tried it, and while there some slack to stuff into the ends , I reckon it actually helps with the rattling. You could probably get away with 1200mm... but I definitely needed more than I thought I would... handlebar with + 20cm or something like that won’t be enough... those drops at long 😅
Rides of Japan thanks, you‘re right, i measured it today. Amazing how much cable comes along for such a small handlebar 😆
How did you get the di2 cable thru the canyon h31 cockpit? I can get the rope thru it but no chance with the di2 cable attached to it. I think i have to route it externly under the canyon cockpit?!
Patrick Katzmair yes, on my canyon cockpit I did route it externally under the bartape down to the drilled hole about 4-5 cm from the bar end.
Ok thanks, thats the way to go. 🤙
Hi Again. I want to use an 11-42T XT Cassette with my Ultegra 2x 34/50T Crankset and Di2. Do you think I should go for the XT Derailleur or the Ultegra R8050 model OR the RX8050 Derailleur? I will for sure be using a new B-Link from WoolfTooth... probably the Roadlink DM.
You can’t pair an XT di2 derailleur with road front one so Definitely the Rx8050 if it were up to me. Roadlink DM sounds like the best/cleanest solution there 👍
Thanks @@ridesofjapan. Would you even think the RX805 (the clutch version) may offer any improvement to keep the chain tight?
Dick Tchairdjian definitely. Might not be necessary if you just ride on the road but a bit of gravel I’d take a clutch derailleur any day.
Never heard of those di2 cable clips before, do they work? If yes I'm in need of some!
holinografias definitely works. You can use zip ties to the same effect... the clips are cheap though.
Hey man, would you recommend using internal foam damper for the Di2 cables instead of the Di2 wire holder clips for dampening sound inside the frame? I've seen in another video where a guy used Jagwire foam damper for the Di2 cables and housing.
the foam tube is made the brake hose... I don't think it makes too much sense using it for the Di2 cable... I guess you could but the cable clips work great, and if you for whatever reason need to remove the cables it's easier just dealing with the clips in my opinion.
Does it matter what sort of ferrule you use for the di2 wiring installation?
I’ve only used the jagwire brake ferrules... but any ferrule for brakes wires should work in theory at least.
Rides of Japan Cheers, am gonna order some ferrules and steel wire for my new build over the weekend. 👍💪🏻
Hi, just wondering what diameter of the Heat Shrink Tubing do you use for the rear brake hose and di2 cable going to the frame? and also for the front brake? thanks
Chang take a look in the description, link should be in there :)
Hi i do saw a link there but wondering what size should be better (length and diameter) for the hose and di2 wire that going to the frame. they have 1/2 inch and bunch of others, wondering which one is better. thanks!
Chang measure you cables and get tubing that’s a bit longer, or just get the longest option and then cut it down to your cable length. That’s probably the best way.
ok thanks! quality videos.
Chang cheers mate! 🙏
Hello how long di2 cable inside your handlebar ? 1000mm or 1200mm? 😁 i use bar 42cm c-c
1200mm
Check this video czcams.com/video/re4VzBBonkA/video.html at the 2:20 mark
Rides of Japan i mean in this video at 10:30 how long di2 cable do you use inside bar, end to end to connect junction 910 with left lever? 😁🙏
rizal irawan check the description 😉
Rides of Japan thank you.. this video is usefull for me...
What size heat shrink tubing did you get? Well done channel you have!
nunatak gear thanks mate!
This one should work
amzn.to/2HBzImw
1/4 inch diameter size should be ok. I used a 8mm one in this video. Can only seem to find that in the Japanese Amazon.
Building "UP" identical bike...Curious what is your overall spacer stack height and your height?
Great editing! Q: what size heat shrink tubing did you use, and do you have an Amazon Japan link for it? Cheers!
RW C yes, 8mm
www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01EMYC9IA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_c_K655AbZX2PXTS
the upgrade kit i am going to buy comes with y cable, do I still need to buy the 1400mm cable?
Hard to say, there still a good chance the cable from the frame junction is too short to reach the nearest shift lever (that would be the shortest way to route the cable)
Top video (ps, cyclism.jp address needs an edit!)
Cycling in Japan god damn auto correct ;) cheers!
How much more weight is Di2 vs mechanical.
If I am not mistaken, current Di2 is lighter than mechanical, but only by a few grams. The difference becomes greater when wires and cables are factored in.
@@trekkeruss That's quite incredible.
Hi very useful vid! may i ask you the lenght of the wire that pass through the handlebar? (the one that connect the left shifter to the junction box)
Take a peak in the description 👍
@@ridesofjapan ouch! my bad!
What did you use to cover the BB area for the mech shifting ?
I use the cover for mech shifting. I do think then released a special "no-ports" cover for electronic shifting now. But I never had any problem with the normal cover.
Those are nice frames,but man,they are so expensive!
Well done! How long did the whole thing take? I think 1/2 way through I would have had to have a self imposed time out in a padded room. BTW, not being familiar with the Open frame, was it an upgrade over the Bokeh or just a replacement?
Haha, yeah.... making sure you film every thing makes a evenings build take forever hehe.
I would say it’s an upgrade for me as it will be my only bike. I wanted something a bit lighter as 90% of our rides are in the mountains.
That being said, the Bokeh is an awesome bike, would have been happy continue riding that as well. But The stars aligned to make this frame a reality.
hey @Rides of Japan, how do you charge your li-ion battery pack?
Aaron Goerzen do you mean the di2 battery?
I charge it via the handlebar end junction
Wait - did you drill holes in those carbon bars?
Trevor Oleniuk yes, same method as I did in this video czcams.com/video/cON3w1IL_7k/video.html
How did you modify minoura rs-1600 to thru axle??
wichersham hack saw and a drill if I remember correctly.
Do you have it so that both of your sti lever activate the rear derailleur?
Joshua Amaral correct, same button configuration on both levers.
Only difference is the hidden button on top of the levers that’s set to shift up on the right and shift down on the left lever.
Rides of Japan thx
9200 groupset coming in the next 3-4 weeks.
5 hour work is simple? lol I prefer my downtube shifters replacing cable takes 30 seconds.
It seems like we've dropped 19 people. Too slow to keep up with this video.
「Brake wire ferrule amzn.to/2r8R3YZ」 will lead to products with different links.
Please tell me the correct link.
amzn.to/2NsPC6d
lol. Di2 routing made simple?! It’s called SRAM AXS eTap!
Why on earth would anyone choose di2 over a wireless system... I have no clue.
shimano make a annoying cable system
what a ball ache. etap wins