Paradise Lost: The Controversial Hunt For The Garden Of Eden | Myth Hunters | Odyssey

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  • The Garden of Eden is said to be paradise on earth and yet we don't know where it is, or do we? Bible scholars put forward controversial new theories as to where the legendary garden was located. However, not everyone in the academic community is persuaded.
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Komentáře • 444

  • @rebeccazegstroo6786
    @rebeccazegstroo6786 Před 2 měsíci +54

    I have heard a version of this. During the ice age, the fertile.crescent was very fertile. People could gather plenty of grain in a short amount of time and there was plenty of game to hunt. Artifacts from the period are well made and artistically decorated. As the glaciers receded, sea levels rose and the weather became dryer. People had to work harder to get enough food. They learned to cultivate and irrigate. Food came by the sweat of their brows. The change is lamented and human action is blamed.

    • @lilblackduc7312
      @lilblackduc7312 Před měsícem

      And now, a state-sponsored sect of religious zealots are blaming human action yet again!!! They are known as, the "C(lie)mate Change Cult". 😡

  • @GizmoFromPizmo
    @GizmoFromPizmo Před měsícem +8

    All those pictures of Adam and Eve with belly buttons 🤣

    • @squidink206
      @squidink206 Před měsícem

      And her pink toenails at the end there...

    • @GizmoFromPizmo
      @GizmoFromPizmo Před měsícem +1

      @@squidink206 - I mean paining toenails is one thing but adding a belly button (which is a scar left over from being born of a woman) is a little tougher to pull off.

  • @marshabaker6153
    @marshabaker6153 Před měsícem +35

    It was buried by the Persian Gulf. All the rivers lead to the PG. I'm saying this before I watch the video. Lets see if we agree. OMG I was right!!! I found both the same rivers---ON MY OWN!! I found this about 10 years ago! So glad to have found this video! I mean, I'm just an everyday mom and to have a Professor & Archeologist come to the same findings I did is just so awesome!

    • @Summerrose400
      @Summerrose400 Před měsícem +2

      Well done you !

    • @SubvertTheState
      @SubvertTheState Před měsícem +1

      Credentials are overrated when it comes to history, sociology, economics etc. when it comes to breakthroughs in rewriting history, it's not going to be historians doing it.

    • @iCup247TV
      @iCup247TV Před 28 dny +2

      ​​​​​​@@SubvertTheState You're right, ofc, at least on the last bit. Zarins was an archeologist, not a historian. But the bible is mythology not history, and it should be interpreted scientifically, not subjectively

    • @StRaphael-we9qn
      @StRaphael-we9qn Před 28 dny

      Hi there, Satan is the king of lies remember. Rough enough is not good enough. The great flood is real😮

    • @DemocracyOfficer2485
      @DemocracyOfficer2485 Před 4 dny +2

      @@StRaphael-we9qnwhy is there zero evidence for it then?

  • @Heligany
    @Heligany Před 2 měsíci +25

    OK Im three minutes in and they are still going on about how people didnt like the idea of looking for Eden.... this does not bode well

    • @hyun808
      @hyun808 Před měsícem +2

      Why would it not ? People start thinking more objectively and factual.
      These stories are just " stories" without proof. So it is understandable and thankfully so !
      Otherwise we'd be stuck in medieval knowledge.

    • @diorocks5858
      @diorocks5858 Před 6 dny

      Edan is Dilmun which in known now as Bahrain and the paradise within Bahrain formally Dilmun is Adhari

  • @tselengbotlhole750
    @tselengbotlhole750 Před 2 měsíci +35

    Juris Zarins 17 February 1945 -08 July 2023. Rest in eternal peace Champ. You gave us an unforgettable story

    • @Newyork20249
      @Newyork20249 Před měsícem

      What is recorded in history isn't necessarily what really happened
      Chuck Missler and Gene Kim have the best information on the subject.

  • @alisonmcnamara800
    @alisonmcnamara800 Před 2 měsíci +35

    I'm fine with looking for the origins of stories! That's how we learn!

  • @lukasmakarios4998
    @lukasmakarios4998 Před měsícem +4

    The four rivers' headwaters came together just north of Kuwait. The Gihon river flows south from Iran, and the Pishon river runs east across Arabia. They merge together and flow down through the garden and into a reedy estuary. Thus, Eden began in Kuwait and went south into what is now the Persian Gulf.

  • @BaileyStreiff
    @BaileyStreiff Před měsícem +12

    What no archeologist has yet to explain is that if you're the supposed first culture, and civilization... Who in the hell are you trading with ? They suppose the sudden rise of Sumer, but fail to mention that the Sumerians themselves acknowledge other cities, possibly predating their own, and they waged war pretty quick as far as history goes; against other cultures and city states, how can this be if yours is the first culture and presumably you should rule the world with your advanced technological civilization, who could mount a resistance ?

    • @LTPottenger
      @LTPottenger Před měsícem +3

      We just have their writings because of random chance that they wrote on clay which was unavailable elsewhere. We could never find paper or even parchment that is 4000+ years old and discount all civilizations we don't have direct writing from as 'myth'.

    • @BaileyStreiff
      @BaileyStreiff Před měsícem

      @@LTPottenger I understand that completely but their writings refer to older generations and civilizations as well as being able to build buildings, craft metal, domesticate both livestock and cereals, that just didn't appear and to suppose it happened simultaneously across the globe is ludacris at best... Recent discoveries like Gobekli tepe put high quality stone masons at he very least to be 12k yrs + into the past, and supposedly purposefully buried, which I find it extremely unlikely and more likely filled during some extreme flooding event akin to the US badlands geologic formation... So on the point of writing these clay tablets, that took extreme time as well, to develop and teach this language to the point of it becoming mundane and universal... Anyways the point being is just because it's the first writing the the rest of the supposed guardians of traditional archeology follow suit and declare it the begining of all civilization ? When clearly they point to others such as themselves that they conquered but their writings if they had them or not don't exist, so who's to say how long hat culture was around before they got waylaid by humans, nature or God... I'm just saying that if we suppose they're the first culture with writing why in God's name would they lie about their history, and their religions as well, why can't we assume these are telephone games played out over centuries and they do in fact have legit historical reference They have the same brains we do, we can only assume some were just as skeptical then as we are now ?

    • @ems4884
      @ems4884 Před měsícem +1

      Yes, there are chacolithic period towns throughout the fertile crescent.
      There's been archeology going on at those sites for decades.
      Not sure why you think this hasn't been researched at all.

    • @BaileyStreiff
      @BaileyStreiff Před měsícem

      @@ems4884 I get the fact that there's constant excavations and digs all over the fertile crescent, while most have been put on hold or destroyed because of the chaotic nature the middle east has been since the dawn of tine apparently... I mean the flow of info and technology implies a far longer time period than the sudden rise all over the globe of similar civilizations, structurally speaking... Does human nature imply a social hierarchy where one class rules over another, in constant perpetuity? More to the point tho is the fact that regardless where on the planet you look, gold plays a significant factor, where did that come from, why is also ingrained into the human psyche ? I'm off the point again, I just don't see Sumer as the foundations when they themselves have stories of advanced culture and wars before they themselves existed... Why are these stories myths and allegories, we thought the same of Troy and many others... ?

    • @BaileyStreiff
      @BaileyStreiff Před měsícem +1

      @@ems4884 moreover, it's the sudden rise, and then the sudden collapse/destruction and/or abandonment of the megalithic structures and their builders, granted there's not a lot left to study besides the giant carved and placed stones... But to just ignore them for being outliers, does a huge dis-service to humanity's collective memory / history and future...

  • @wickhunter7733
    @wickhunter7733 Před měsícem +6

    51:11 John Day doesn't acknowledge that the Ancient Hebrews could have got their translation wrong regarding the flow of the rivers. They got other geagraphical aspects of the region wrong in Genesis.

  • @user-mi6zq6jh8c
    @user-mi6zq6jh8c Před 2 měsíci +37

    Werner Keller wrote a book called "The Bible as History" which shows how many of the places and events in the Bible are actually rooted in fact, which doesn't mean they happened exactly as the Bible and preachers would have us believe.

    • @bostonteapartycrasher
      @bostonteapartycrasher Před 2 měsíci +4

      True, but the garden of Eden isn’t; it’s just the origin myth of Abrahamic religions. Almost all religions have them, but AFAIK none of the other creation myths are taken literally

    • @barbaraarndt5293
      @barbaraarndt5293 Před měsícem +1

      Like Chinese whispers

    • @geradorocha9902
      @geradorocha9902 Před měsícem

      Siri theory, just like.
      Evolution Darwin. Was known as desgripe that was before the flood

    • @Newyork20249
      @Newyork20249 Před měsícem +2

      Dr Gene Kim has the most knowledgeable information that I've ever listened to
      March 2015 2024 from Rochester New York

    • @MG-wm9kq
      @MG-wm9kq Před 17 dny

      Well the Bible takes place on earth so ide assume they would be represented in some way in the Bible 😂

  • @ing-mariekoppel1637
    @ing-mariekoppel1637 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Garden of Eden is a mythological and symbolical and archetypical place. It exists within us.
    It cannot be found on the physical earth. The expulsion from Eden tells us about how we are separated from our inner garden of Eden and it means
    the garden of pleasure / blessing / delight . The expulsion in fact tells us how we are sepatated from God.

    • @MrStupidHead
      @MrStupidHead Před měsícem +2

      I like how you just make all this up and then say it like it is obviously so. Meanwhile, there is a guy named Juris who spends his whole life looking for evidence with which to build and support his premise.

    • @DracoShark91
      @DracoShark91 Před měsícem

      Sooo..why cant it be both
      ..and a means for humans to obtain heaven?

    • @strawlotus7729
      @strawlotus7729 Před měsícem +1

      Interesting theory. Proof?

    • @highendservicesbarrieont8347
      @highendservicesbarrieont8347 Před měsícem

      Hmmm...well tell that to the Angel guarding the entrance... He's been there quite some time...and he'll be interested in your ideas....😂😂

    • @jameshogan6142
      @jameshogan6142 Před měsícem

      You have to consider everything in a broad context. For example comparing the lush paradise to the loss experienced when the gulf was flooded is like the expulsion of Adam and Eve from Eden. Imagine having all of that verdant fertile area being swept away by the Gulf becoming flooded (The great flood in Genesis)and having to try to grow crops in the arid hinterland to the north. Soft herbaceous plants are now replaced by thorny cactus plants which are adapted to survive the harsh arid climate. As in Genesis they earn their bread by the sweat of their brow and the land is difficult to cultivate and grows thorns and briars instead of all of those exotic fruit trees which once flourished.@@highendservicesbarrieont8347

  • @neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle
    @neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle Před měsícem +7

    How long had civilization been in existence before the first texts where ever written??? And how many of those first texts survived throughout the ages??? I don't think anyone can answer these questions...

    • @badpossum440
      @badpossum440 Před měsícem

      You can't have civilization without some form of writing.

    • @maszkalman3676
      @maszkalman3676 Před měsícem +2

      @@badpossum440 You can have civilization without writing!!! most meso-american cultures doesn't had writing until the incas and mayans right before them the Olmecs were the msot advanced you still see their buildings, giant head statues and lived with the still mostly unknown cultures in the Chiapas and Oaxaca region. So your point is quite dumb....

  • @crowjr2
    @crowjr2 Před 2 měsíci +17

    9:29 he summons Scotty Kilmer 😂

  • @IkeMann100
    @IkeMann100 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Mind blowing documentary!

  • @DeepHouse79
    @DeepHouse79 Před 2 měsíci +5

    First I’ve ever heard of this. Love it!

  • @carenkurdjinian5413
    @carenkurdjinian5413 Před měsícem +3

    Thanks for Your Dedication and Support……🌞

  • @danmcqueen5295
    @danmcqueen5295 Před měsícem +1

    Very good. Thank you, for this great production!

  • @sabrinawing8094
    @sabrinawing8094 Před měsícem +5

    I ate up this research as it was published and think it makes such perfect sense. I always believed the Bible to be more literature than theological and enjoyed Werner Kellers work as well. I’m now curious re the recent discovery of humans having been reduced to a very few at about the same time in about the same place and whether or not these things are related. Hope someone out there with better resources is as curious as I am.

    • @ems4884
      @ems4884 Před měsícem

      It's absolutely literature ... But various literary styles created over the course of six centuries. It's really a shame how little appreciated it is. I don't find that Christians actually read it to see it for what it is. Jews come a bit closer to that but the religious bias still distorts the perception.
      I wish writing was invited earlier ... During the neolithic. Think of all the trouble that would have prevented when it comes to the Bible

  • @JusticeAlways
    @JusticeAlways Před měsícem +5

    Curious of how the formation of the vast oilfields in the area were formed because of the vegetation climate...evidence to further support his theory.😊

    • @EvieDoesYouTube
      @EvieDoesYouTube Před měsícem

      Hundreds of millions of years ago before even dinosaurs existed.

  • @gabrielavuong689
    @gabrielavuong689 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Great documentary ❤

  • @thomasrape4616
    @thomasrape4616 Před měsícem +17

    It's no wonder these stories have Sumerian roots because Abraham was from the city of Ur in Sumer.

    • @flimsyjimnz
      @flimsyjimnz Před měsícem

      -except Abraham didn't write Genesis. It was written before Abraham...

    • @krakoosh1
      @krakoosh1 Před měsícem +1

      ⁠​⁠@@flimsyjimnzno it wasn’t. Moses wrote the Pentateuch

    • @parjanyashukla176
      @parjanyashukla176 Před měsícem

      Abraham and Sarah were not real people - they are Semitized word forms of Brahma and Saraswati (deities, not real persons).

    • @magomanyaituga4573
      @magomanyaituga4573 Před 15 dny

      ​​​@@parjanyashukla176this is the difference the world doesn't seem to understand: Abraham has always been a montheist. This clearly suggests that there were people in the area that believed in ONE, TRUE, ETERNAL, and TMELESS God, that doesn't change. Hinduism, is the opposite, and comprises of various gods, which then beings confusion as to who the Messiah will come from. There are also no prophecies about Jesus in accorsance with Brahma, so that doesnt make any sense. On the contrary, there are prophecies of Jesus in the old testament, starting from Abraham.
      Just because Brahma,and Abraham sound similar, they are not. We need to stop assuming that similar names refer to the same person. Otherwise, history would be a complete mess if we relied on that.
      Lastly, the Bible is a mix of 3 things.... REAL previous history, current affairs of the time, and future prophecies that are to last till the END of time. The latter, has been fulfilled in the last 2000 years, and still continues to be fulfilled as the world hasn't ended yet. This is not a mere book. JESUS was prophesied including his mission on earth (to set captives free from the lies and the captivity of the enemy, which clearly has taken over to blind people to this extent FOR MILLENIUMS.) It is a continuous story that has matched up, and everything they said Jesus would do before he was even born, he DID! Including where he would be born, AND HIS LINEAGE! So no, Abraham is not the hindu god, Brahma as that completely distorts Jesus lineage and purpose to fulfill the will of YAWEH, the one true and only God.
      Read the Bible in that sense; as a book that shows you the purpose of this world. Other than thay, you cannot unserstand it. You will then know, the importance of the Old Testament. OT was written by authors who didn't meet, lived hundred of years apart, but foretold the coming of the Jesus. That's why there are several books mostly written about genealogy in the OT. The Messiah had to come from a particular lineage, a monotheistic lineage, that believed in the God of the Bible. This is the only way Jesus mission would be fulfilled. This was to ensure that no false Messiahs, or no confusion is made. But it seems even with all that effort, the world is confused! The old testament, with its genealogy and belief in YAHWEH ALONE, is how we know we are talking of Christianity and not Hinduism in the Bible.
      I bring this up so you can understand that Jesus was chosen to come from a particular lineage. The lineage of Abraham, which was chosen by God, and foretold he would be the father of all nations (Chrisitianity would encompass all nations, through his descendant, Jesus and we are watching thay happen across this globe.) Again, Bible prophecy must be fulfilled. It will happen no other way. Sorry but that means even Brahma has nothing to do with the Bible.

    • @shelleyhender8537
      @shelleyhender8537 Před 3 dny +1

      @@parjanyashukla176 Israeli and international archaeologists would definitely disagree with you and certainly dispute your argument…and they are SECULAR scholars, so there’s no bias.

  • @jordanfalkowski6924
    @jordanfalkowski6924 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Its kinda fun conversation like how tenasious D he was lookin at that postr when he chose to leave home

  • @tiberiusgracchus7328
    @tiberiusgracchus7328 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Interesting video, I would be interested to know more about the geologic history of the area, wish I could had a sit down with him to discuss this. Geoffrey Bibby was actually first to propose that Dilmun, which he identified with Bahrain, as the prototype of the biblical Eden in the 50s. He wrote a book on his theory, Searching for Dilmun, in 1961.

  • @user-mx9rx1ci2o
    @user-mx9rx1ci2o Před měsícem +2

    I started watching this very cautiously afraid it would be weird or make quantum leaps ot something like that. But no, this fits extremely well with things I already knew to make a ton of sense.
    I had focused on the Great Rift Valley since I was making a connection to Africa. I would like to expand a bit more on exactly where they got the information that Cush was in that particular mountain range just for curiosities sake. I may have to dig for a book or something on this.
    I was very aware that of course Babylon & Sumer had to be a root source since Abraham is supposed to have come from Ur.
    I had run into those connections eons ago. Oddly enough I has thought that if Eden was a place at all it would likely be under water. Just because these stories seem to go back to a time of Ice Age not the actual creation of the Universe.
    Oral mythology or history always seems to carry a memory thread to actual events somehow. I think these stories began as oral history then later were applied to newer revelations about the spiritual world most cultures seem to sense.
    This just ties things I had read or sensed & puts something quite real to it.

  • @grf15
    @grf15 Před měsícem +1

    A fascinating documentary. The number of ads was annoying though.

  • @theZCAllen
    @theZCAllen Před 2 měsíci +4

    I like how it all came together there

  • @carenkurdjinian5413
    @carenkurdjinian5413 Před měsícem +1

    Thank You ….. You are A Great Professional…..🌞

  • @neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle
    @neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle Před měsícem +19

    Well...people once thought that people flying around in the sky was crazy...

    • @mongtkb
      @mongtkb Před 27 dny

      even the Wright Brothers' father said a few years before the first flight that flying is reserved for the angels

  • @diorocks5858
    @diorocks5858 Před 6 dny

    I worked in Bahrain formally Dilmun and there is a place in Bahrain up to 20 years ago known as Adhari which is natural water and paradise. I love Bahrain.

  • @melissaberman8244
    @melissaberman8244 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thank you 🙏

  • @user-fz1cv1yk6u
    @user-fz1cv1yk6u Před 26 dny +2

    Well told sir

  • @andrewharper1609
    @andrewharper1609 Před měsícem

    I have seen some people associate Dilmun (or Tilmun, depending on translation) associated with Bahrain. I think it may been Bauval and Hancock, although it may have been David Rohl.

  • @livinglife4835
    @livinglife4835 Před měsícem +10

    Fascinating, great video.

    • @jameshogan6142
      @jameshogan6142 Před měsícem +1

      It is fascinating. This is real academic research. I find it very tiresome when doubters just roll their eyes and look at people who find a basis in the origins of these stories as gullible simpletons who believe in fairy tales.

    • @shelleyhender8537
      @shelleyhender8537 Před 3 dny +2

      @@jameshogan6142 So very true. The vast majority of us value science and believe it can support Biblical accounts.

    • @jameshogan6142
      @jameshogan6142 Před 3 dny +1

      @@shelleyhender8537 Correct. I remember being taught in High School by our geography teacher that rivers and lakes are not permanent features of the landscape and appear and disappear according to weather, climate changes, earthquakes, volcanic activity etc.

    • @shelleyhender8537
      @shelleyhender8537 Před 3 dny +1

      @@jameshogan6142 I too was fortunate to have an extremely talented high school geography teacher who introduced the explanation of disappearing lakes and rivers…but…I really became fascinated by geography at university, when I took it as an elective for credits towards my archaeology degree.
      It truly helps when we have knowledgeable educators willing to go the extra mile!
      You obviously value education…something I believe is important throughout our lives.
      As you texted me, I was watching a series on CBC focusing on the contributions of the Canadian military in WWII. My grandfathers were veterans, so I try to learn as much as I can. I think some of us are naturally inclined to be lifelong learners.

  • @neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle
    @neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle Před měsícem +2

    You only have the "recorded" use of the word "Eden". How long was it in use before it was written down in a surviving text???

    • @maszkalman3676
      @maszkalman3676 Před měsícem

      We don't know that and that's allright a tleast we know the oldest use so far...

  • @user-qs7gx7rp7m
    @user-qs7gx7rp7m Před měsícem +1

    Love the story (metaphor) of Adam and his birth-child, Eve, together with the warning of the dangers of following the advice of the very first family lawyer-consultant . . . The Serpent.

  • @kaoskryst6688
    @kaoskryst6688 Před měsícem

    Well worth the watch.

  • @sarahprosecco
    @sarahprosecco Před 10 dny

    48:45 Ancient Egyptians also swapped north and south with regards to discussing the direction in which the river Nile flowed.

  • @carenkurdjinian5413
    @carenkurdjinian5413 Před měsícem +4

    Spring Is Coming …….🌞

  • @markmcarthy596
    @markmcarthy596 Před 19 dny

    The Garden of Eden was/is around the confluence of the Mississippi, Missouri, Illinois and Meramec Rivers. Ancient evidence everywhere

  • @jennclose4604
    @jennclose4604 Před 26 dny +2

    I love applying science to the Bible. It just proves that the book is pretty accurate, not perfect as they are stories that were repeated by mouth but still accurate!
    We are all of the human race and therefore we all have the same history hense nothing was plagerised in the Bible...

  • @thewagonadreambylewis
    @thewagonadreambylewis Před 26 dny

    This was very good

  • @neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle
    @neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle Před měsícem +2

    We do know the Nile has changed its course many times. So what was the course of the Nile back in the time when the Garden of Eden existed???

    • @ems4884
      @ems4884 Před měsícem

      This is known. You can research it in geological maps of the upper-paleolithic period.

    • @neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle
      @neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle Před měsícem

      @@ems4884 -- I don't trust much coming out of secular science...especially concerning biblical history. They'll do anything to disprove biblical events...even lie...

    • @evee_peavey
      @evee_peavey Před měsícem

      It never shifted past the red sea.. so that's kind of impossible

  • @nugsymalone1247
    @nugsymalone1247 Před měsícem +1

    Very interesting, he was soo close.

  • @iCup247TV
    @iCup247TV Před 28 dny

    DL Hamblin wrote a book about Zarins a while back, Has the Garden of Eden Been Found At Last? There's an article by the same name by her on the interwebs for anyone interested

  • @sabbyd1832
    @sabbyd1832 Před 2 měsíci +4

    It's a great theory

  • @gregcollins3404
    @gregcollins3404 Před měsícem +3

    The earth was catastrophicly changed by the worldwide flood of Noah and the garden of Eden is no more....

  • @HearTruth
    @HearTruth Před dnem

    Edom ... Adam Eden Edom was an ancient kingdom in Transjordan, located between Moab to the northeast, the Arabah to the west, and the Arabian Desert to the south and east.. 4 heads . Gen 48:17 Joseph replaces Dan in Rev 6:12-17
    Genesis 2:10. “And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; (Jordan Dan Guardians Gen 3:24 and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.

  • @miloviiy
    @miloviiy Před měsícem +2

    If billions people from differents place tell the same story from the past. Thats probably not just story or myth but thats a truth.

    • @hollyheughins9246
      @hollyheughins9246 Před měsícem

      Billions of people with no first hand account and only a book to tell them?

  • @summersolstice884
    @summersolstice884 Před 4 dny

    IF IF IF the Flood in the Bible is the telling of the Ice Age melt that raised the sea Level 400 Feet - - Then Eden was BEFORE the Flood so we are talking more than 12000 years ago ... Very incredible that word of mouth legends told around the home fires in the evening, carried that information for such a long time ...

  • @Summerrose400
    @Summerrose400 Před měsícem +3

    I have no religion but enjoy these biblical mysteries. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @GGable
    @GGable Před měsícem +2

    Lot more opinion than fact in this

  • @ScottRiddleArtist
    @ScottRiddleArtist Před 2 měsíci +17

    now seriously. The level of stupidity that goes along with people of faith is truly shocking. If God had actually cast the original people, the original man and woman out of Eden. What makes you think that any human being would be able to re-enter this sacred space?eventually some human would wander back in there if it was actually real. But like the majority of stories in the Bible. It was mythology! Man humans scare me.

    • @kevin61906
      @kevin61906 Před 2 měsíci

      Your comment shows a high level of stupidity also

    • @br.m
      @br.m Před 2 měsíci +1

      Can't you read? Eden isn't a normal place. Plus there are cherubim and a flashing sword guarding the way

    • @scottshorten9962
      @scottshorten9962 Před 2 měsíci

      i totally agree ,like we can prove dinosaures were here before man,long before. or nohas ark,like comon really,every specie of animal.,insect bird!

    • @WeldingQueen
      @WeldingQueen Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@br.m 😂😂😂😂

    • @richardlopez4318
      @richardlopez4318 Před měsícem +2

      @@br.mwell that makes perfect sense. 😂

  • @herzogsbuick
    @herzogsbuick Před měsícem +1

    "where a river would once have flowed" flown* ftfy

  • @clivechiam
    @clivechiam Před 8 dny +1

    Adam and Eve defy evolution and they’re looking for the garden of Eden?! This is ludicrous.

  • @neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle
    @neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle Před měsícem +1

    Words were first created and spoken before ever being written down...

  • @jonathanhughes8679
    @jonathanhughes8679 Před měsícem +1

    His theory at least has some logic to it. And it does make sense that maybe some bits of meaning have become lost.

  • @josephturner7569
    @josephturner7569 Před 2 měsíci +3

    David Rohl placed it where Tabriz is.

    • @ianbrewster8934
      @ianbrewster8934 Před měsícem +1

      I'm not sure if he is correct but he makes a compelling argument. Especially with the concept of the water's flowing out of that part of the world as opposed to this theory that they're moving towards what is the Persian Gulf.

  • @mightyoaks77
    @mightyoaks77 Před 12 dny

    How can the biblical scholar John day use the Bible to disprove the location of Eden?
    Firstly like many Bible stories they are borrowed, rewritten and changed to fit their own narrative
    Second there are many versions of the Bible giving varying accounts of these stories. One could say up river, one down river, one with no mention of direction
    But the third and most important point is that there has been a large amount of grammatical errors when translating these stories into Hebrew and other languages resulting in names, places, phrases, sentences and large parts of stories being incorrect.
    If the direction of a river is john days strongest argument to dispute Zarins and his teams work then he's failed miserably and indirectly shown how solid their evidence is.

  • @user-dq5vx4pq7l
    @user-dq5vx4pq7l Před 21 dnem

    I think there is an Aldi store built over it today

  • @carsonnpowell9194
    @carsonnpowell9194 Před 21 dnem

    The weight of the ice age glaciers depressed the mantle under the crust and relocated the mantle to the edges of the glaciers causing crust up lifting and changes in water flow.

  • @Annoyed.Dragon
    @Annoyed.Dragon Před 20 dny

    It makes sense that there are truths found in the Bible. Locations, Natural disasters. People etc. It just doesn't necessarily mean that there were talking snakes and mythical sky deities. 🤷🏼‍♀️ There are lots of fact based aspects of Greek mythology. There just simply wasn't a Mount Olympus loaded with magic gods.

  • @marygonzalez-tc1yq
    @marygonzalez-tc1yq Před 2 měsíci

    Rivers can only be seen from space with special photography beneath the surface.

  • @Dazbo76
    @Dazbo76 Před měsícem +2

    Paradise lost a great metal band too

  • @carenkurdjinian5413
    @carenkurdjinian5413 Před měsícem

    Very Interesting Name……🌞

  • @philip2010
    @philip2010 Před měsícem

    There are those that believe its in turkey and its interesting that noahs arc was discovered thats where it ended up on mount ararat
    Was it in turkey ?

  • @Schwarzkald
    @Schwarzkald Před 28 dny

    Abraham was from Ur, which was a city in Sumeria! So he was aware of the Sumerian mythology!

  • @alecbrown66
    @alecbrown66 Před dnem

    There is a fundamental construct that makes Eden come into question. In genesis Adam is expelled from a set of people before discovering Eden. So Eden is not the source of man, or its common story. Also before Eve turns up, he was already married to another.😊

  • @susanm200
    @susanm200 Před měsícem

    So Zarins don't harden your heart like they did during the rebellion but humble yourself under the mighty hand of God & He will lift you up! Revival or we die!❤

  • @Zichronot
    @Zichronot Před 2 měsíci +45

    Science was born by religious men, Isaac Newton etcetera. Science isn't the conflict with God, it's the men who determined God isn't true is. Men who try to replace God with science.

    • @lenabreijer1311
      @lenabreijer1311 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Lol they had no choice in the matter back then. They had to show up in church. Besides the term "god" is a job description.

    • @semiramis47
      @semiramis47 Před 2 měsíci +11

      Science isn't replacing something that doesn't exist

    • @barbaraarndt5293
      @barbaraarndt5293 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Science is real and God is not.

    • @kevinfisher1345
      @kevinfisher1345 Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@barbaraarndt5293 "Science is -real- _physical_ and God is -not- _spiritual_ ." Fixed your sentence for you. This is why many religious men have also been scientist, as one does not conflict with the other. One has nothing to do with each other. They can both co-exist together with no issues.

    • @barbaraarndt5293
      @barbaraarndt5293 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Hard to replace anything which is actually a fantasy? And the so called religious men? How deep was their faith or did they avoid to be burnt at the stake. Even the present Pope is not so sure.

  • @nancyalexander780
    @nancyalexander780 Před měsícem

    Lots of stories and lots of truths about only one fact and one truth!

  • @CHIMPmanHE
    @CHIMPmanHE Před 14 dny

    Its not in this dimension its on Earth but we cant see it as we've been cast out. Its gaurded by 2 angels with flaming swords. Does this mean god know one day we may be able to open a portal? 😮

  • @runnynose8341
    @runnynose8341 Před měsícem +1

    can we get to the science, not just feeling

  • @DownhillAllTheWay
    @DownhillAllTheWay Před měsícem

    At 46:25 :"No easy living here - if people wanted food, they had to grow it - they had to become farmers." Did the first farmers have pink nail polish on their toe nails?

  • @duncanfeyd4056
    @duncanfeyd4056 Před měsícem

    The rivers listed in Genesis are found in the mid-oceanic trenches and those four rivers end in The Phillipines also known as Ophir or Havillah. The Garden is under The Sulu Sea.
    czcams.com/play/PLru2qbCMGOi6Xt-ts2C1QVz-ZnAZxicWJ.html&si=dvwVctIFH1ZAww6I

  • @maryblushes7189
    @maryblushes7189 Před 5 dny

    It really existed and many believe it was in what would become Jerusalem. I think it was in Anatolia... East of Modern Turkey...near Gobekitepe...prehaps.

  • @jonathanhughes8679
    @jonathanhughes8679 Před měsícem

    Sometimes any story normally has some truth and just because you try to prove something with science doesn’t make it real or not. My guess is that most things ancient have some truth but that doesn’t mean it’s what you think. It’s hard sometimes to explain things to people that have never seen it.

  • @KingFluffs
    @KingFluffs Před měsícem

    Does anyone know if Zarins published a book on his theory? I can't find anything online.

  • @62wyo
    @62wyo Před měsícem

    The book "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeloy's New Vision of Ancient Isreal and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts" by Isreal Finlestein and Neil Asher Siberman. It's a must read.

  • @carenkurdjinian5413
    @carenkurdjinian5413 Před měsícem

    Shinar………🌞

  • @jasonk795
    @jasonk795 Před měsícem

    The Garden of Eden is all around us. We dig it up, pave over it, build on it. It's the world wild animals live in. The ability to live in nature without any technology. Bare naked, no tools, fire, just your bare hands. We can never go back.

  • @CassandraTroy
    @CassandraTroy Před 2 měsíci

    The stunning thing about this is, that believers don't want it to be reality. This is Platonism gone haywire in Western religion. It's crazy!

  • @crombie7492
    @crombie7492 Před měsícem

    The tree was the previous ancient alien civilisation in Sumer. I'm clever hey?

  • @mikethomp1440
    @mikethomp1440 Před měsícem +6

    It is amusing to see academics and atheists alike come unglued and soil themselves to be heard when anything from a religious context is applied. Or more specifically, a judeo/christian context.

  • @sulaymankindi
    @sulaymankindi Před měsícem +1

    where does the Quraan supposedly mention Ubar??? Everytime I come across quackery in reference to Arabic and Islam, the only conclusion I have is that your other flapping must be quackery too

  • @carenkurdjinian5413
    @carenkurdjinian5413 Před měsícem

    Very Intelligent - To Create -Healthy Society……🌞

  • @tuomasmattila283
    @tuomasmattila283 Před měsícem

    so we want to know but not live forever with that knowledge, question is, what is it that we know cause that we do not want live forever? If God created them at His own image then how come they didn't have knowledge and didn't have immortality?

  • @Laheyfinegoods
    @Laheyfinegoods Před 3 dny +1

    God have us science. As long as science isn’t followed as doctrine but respected and used for good then I think it’s righteous. Anyone who says follow the science and that the science is the only truth is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

  • @fredparkinson1289
    @fredparkinson1289 Před 28 dny

    The Garden of Eden is a myth, but one we have all experienced. The Garden of Eden was the womb and birth was the expulsion from the Garden of Eden.

  • @susanm200
    @susanm200 Před měsícem

    From the earth/clay you came & to the earth you/body you shall return.

  • @jacobbutler4024
    @jacobbutler4024 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The garden of Eden is in the fourth dimension 🤔 🧐 💭

  • @tuomasmattila283
    @tuomasmattila283 Před měsícem

    if hole africa has been green then there has been rivers we do not know that has gone and glues has gone do the earth quakes etc. and could been rivre/s that has connected all big rivers

  • @user-Rocket-Fest
    @user-Rocket-Fest Před 20 dny

    the world has forgotten the Great Flood, Eden was well and truly destroyed

  • @orlandogivens4779
    @orlandogivens4779 Před 29 dny

    A Short scope of the Truth...
    Adam & Huwa-Eve were not created on the EARTH but were created in the Heavens in Paradise and were ejected out of "Paradise due to them not following the command of the Creator of the Galactic Heavens, but she Huwa listened to Azazil The ruler of the Shaytaans, who persuaded her to eat from the forbidden Tree and she persuaded Adam to eat...And the Creator of the Galactic Heavens knew this would take place and so this became the beginning of the test for humanity and the Shaytaans... Some will be OBEDIENT while others will be like the Scum left by the floodwaters and soon all of the realities of Truth will be revealed as we see today these are the minor days of judgement who will know it except for those who are following the correct guidance of Muhammad salalahu alaihi wasalaam and the Companions...
    Yaa Muqallibal Quloob Thabbit Qalbee Alaa Deenik...
    O'Turnner of the Hearts keep my HEART firm upon your Deen- Religion..."Way of LIFE"
    We are here only to be TESTED but who amongst the people will pass the TEST???

  • @DJL78
    @DJL78 Před 2 měsíci +5

    This is the Wonka Experience all over again isn’t it! Not an Oompa-Loompa to be found! I want a refund!!

    • @mikethomp1440
      @mikethomp1440 Před měsícem

      Take a look in the mirror l, Mr. Wonka

  • @duncanbaynton7138
    @duncanbaynton7138 Před měsícem

    Nice story but only 10000 years ago plenty of civilisations older than Sumer

  • @ellenkelley6173
    @ellenkelley6173 Před 2 měsíci +3

    In the Bible it says that Cain created the 1st city. So was cain a sumerian? And was the land of Nod Sumer?

  • @larrybarnett5799
    @larrybarnett5799 Před měsícem +10

    the bible was being taught before it was even written. people forget that there was a global flood. Abraham was from UR of the Chaldeans in modern day Iraq.

    • @ArachnerdGC
      @ArachnerdGC Před měsícem +5

      There are Great Flood stories from every culture on earth. It's one thing from the bible that's likely true, but Noah obviously couldn't have saved a breeding pair from every single species of animal on earth. I believe there's a grain of truth in every legend from every culture.

    • @asburycollins9182
      @asburycollins9182 Před měsícem

      Global flood huh. Where is the evidence

    • @ems4884
      @ems4884 Před měsícem +1

      It was not being "taught." It was oral history, legend and myth. And after the Torah the majority of the old testament is very much a legendary chronicle

    • @Melrose51653
      @Melrose51653 Před měsícem

      What couldn't be understood had to be explained away in simple terms. The more things became understood, the less religion could be used to explain

  • @Uchiha409
    @Uchiha409 Před měsícem

    Its amazing story no wonder Eden can’t be found cuz its submerged…

  • @jasonmuller1199
    @jasonmuller1199 Před 20 hodinami

    Next try to find Narnia, it's also in a book

  • @LittleOrla
    @LittleOrla Před měsícem

    All of earth was and is Paradise. It's only that we humans are living in darkness now. Hang around for another 10,000 years. You'll see. 😊