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Atlantropa: The Insane Plan To Dam The Mediterranean

  • čas přidán 20. 02. 2024
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    More than 150 million people live in coastal cities around the Mediterranean sea, and many of them are under threat from rising sea levels due to climate change. Cities are pouring billions of dollars into dams and mitigation projects to prevent flooding, but there is an idea - an old idea - that could save all of the cities at once. But here’s why damming the Mediterranean is harder than it sounds.
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    0:00 - Intro
    1:12 - Sea Level Threat
    3:11 - The Dam Idea
    4:51 - Tangent Cam
    6:01 - Cost
    7:39 - Why Haven't We Done This?
    10:44 - Atlantropa
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  • @joescott
    @joescott  Před 3 měsíci +450

    Hmm… I hear the high-pitched noise you guys are talking about. Don’t know why I didn’t hear it in the edit. We’ll try not to make that a new feature of the channel. Sorry guys.

    • @miklov
      @miklov Před 3 měsíci +26

      That's funny. I only noticed it once I paused the video and then unpaused it. I don't trust my brain farther than I can throw it.

    • @davidhuber6251
      @davidhuber6251 Před 3 měsíci +13

      I wonder how much more playtime the video will get in just people listening for the noise! 😝😁

    • @sonicgoo1121
      @sonicgoo1121 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Is it puppies?

    • @Nobe_Oddy
      @Nobe_Oddy Před 3 měsíci +7

      ohhhh I read that wrong at first... I thought you were saying WE WERE MAKING a bunch of high-pitched noise about the mistake you didn't hear in the edit... you know.. the one @ 7:27 where the DAM suddenly becomes a TUNNEL that could allow for roads and tunnels that could connect the two continents.....
      And so I thought you just had a VERY STRANGE way of acknowledging that you said tunnel instead of damn and it was even weirder to say this mistake wouldn't be a new feature..... it was HECKA CONFUSED!!! lol Because in a way it KINDA makes sense, but not very much lol.... But then I happen to glance at the reply to your comment and glance down at the comment under yours and suddenly it made sense LMAO
      BUT the weird thing is that I didn't hear any 9khz noise until you pointed it out, and even then I had to turn up the volume quite a bit to hear it....but this is probably because of have a large fan always on because it gets pretty hot in this room, but I hear it now that I turned it off and upped the volume I can hear it... it's a simple fix and I'm sure you'll have it fixed before Monday... well I hope you had an AMAZING Thanksgiving!!! I know I did (even though I had to cook EVERYTHING AND do ALL the Dishes... lol it's okay though, there are only 3 of us and Mom n Pop did it for me for many years, so I can easily do it for them on Turkey Day... now if I could only get my sisters to do something for them LOL j/k)

    • @josephschmidt1751
      @josephschmidt1751 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Happy Thanksgiving brother! I hope you and yours are having a wonderful day.

  • @tayzonday
    @tayzonday Před 3 měsíci +929

    Technical Note: Your spoken audio has a high-pitched background noise around 9000hz or so. It could easily be removed with any audio restoration suite like Acon Digital Denoiser or Izotope RX.

    • @Crypt0sis
      @Crypt0sis Před 3 měsíci +45

      You have a promo code?

    • @chrisingb1
      @chrisingb1 Před 3 měsíci +78

      Once you notice it, it doesn't go away! Great content, but good call out. Joe - Kids or others (hearing aids, special needs, etc) might be sensitive to this, please fix this and make your content more digestible by these individuals.

    • @lordxmvtik
      @lordxmvtik Před 3 měsíci +7

      Not sure if its gonna pick up on consumer grade equipment.

    • @sadmermaid
      @sadmermaid Před 3 měsíci +8

      Tay being a friendlyjordies supporter, here, is always great to see.

    • @tayzonday
      @tayzonday Před 3 měsíci +66

      @@lordxmvtik I hear it vividly on my iPhone.

  • @tonyelkan5348
    @tonyelkan5348 Před 2 měsíci +87

    This may also create a serious salinity problem. Right now Atlantic water enters the Mediterranean at the surface, and dense high salinity water exits at the bottom of the strait. If the strait were blocked by a hydro dam the entering water would be drastically reduced. But the exiting high salinity water would completely stop. That, combined with surface evaporation, would steadily increase the salinity of the Mediterranean until it would be like the Dead Sea. Not good.

    • @Philosophilophile
      @Philosophilophile Před 2 měsíci +18

      I live in the Netherlands, where part of the North Sea (technically the Zuiderzee) has been dammed off in the 1930's and turned into a lake. The lake turned from salt into fresh water as it is now fed only by rivers and apparently the equilibrium is such that more salt goes out than comes in. There are huge pumps and sluices at the edges of the lake, that regulate water level and, I assume, salinity. It had severe impact on the local ecosystem as many species disappeared completely, but over time it seems to have found a new balance. Something similar could happen to the Mediterranean, not necessarily making it fresh but regulating salinity. The power that a 13km hydro dam can deliver can probably run some mean pumps.

    • @CSpottsGaming
      @CSpottsGaming Před 2 měsíci +5

      ​@@PhilosophilophileIt could run some mean pumps for sure, but it can never pump more water than is driving the power production in the first place. Selectively drawing water (i.e. grabbing the high salinity deep water) might be an option but it negates a lot of the benefits of this.

    • @tomaskoszeghy2447
      @tomaskoszeghy2447 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yes, exactly. I was also thinking about this. What if you leave the Suez canal for drainage so the salty water can get out there to the red sea and back to the Indian Ocean? Guess the Suez Canal is not deep enough for the heavier more salty water to dive under and flow out. I share your opinion on the saltiness being the biggest issue. Probably unsolvable.

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 Před 2 měsíci

      It wouldn't work that way. The level in the Mediterranean would be lower so there would just be an inflow of very salty water from the Red Sea.@@tomaskoszeghy2447

  • @fretless05
    @fretless05 Před 2 měsíci +47

    I live near a dam and have gone on tours. One of the things about the dam that always amazed me is that the thickness of the dam at the bottom is monstrous compared to the width at the top. It's 45 feet wide at the top and over 660 feet at the bottom; it's 726 feet tall. So assuming that the dam has to be about as wide as it is tall, and considering you said it's up to 900 meters deep, that means the dam will be 13km long and almost a km thick at the bottom; the costs and technical issues that would be involved in pouring, supporting, and cooling that amount of concrete are staggering.

    • @feelincrispy
      @feelincrispy Před 2 měsíci +6

      I have no friggen idea how it would be possible but I feel like volcano lava would be interesting material to use considering that’s how the earths massive land forms are made

    • @mrleenudler
      @mrleenudler Před 2 měsíci +13

      That would not be the case here, as the dam would be supported by the pressure from the water on the other side. The dam would only need to withstand the pressure difference from the different sea levels, which would probably be a couple of meters, whatever the tide is like there. And the occcasional hurricane, of course.

    • @mrleenudler
      @mrleenudler Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@feelincrispy If possible, that'd depend heavily on the quality of the lava. If it's solid granite, that'd be well and good, but the rocks on Iceland are very porous. Awesome idea, though!

    • @warpdriveby
      @warpdriveby Před 8 dny

      ​@@feelincrispyinteresting idea, but there's no way to release magma quickly and to have it remain in solid stable forms in all but a few locations. You might actually pull this off in Iceland or Hawaii in 100 to 500 years depending on technology development, but the med is entirely on continental crust, the lava you would reach with any conceivable tech would have a very high silica content and retain incredible amounts of gas, which is why volcanoes on or near continents are very explosive while those far out to sea are not. The idea of fusing a kind of concrete with a thermal process is a better way to apply your idea here... there might be some way to add radioactive isotopes to concrete so that instead of curing with water, the aggregate isn't just bound but melted into a solid mass? I can't pretend to figure that out, but if anyone can it'll make them very wealthy.

  • @richardjr1972
    @richardjr1972 Před 2 měsíci +21

    As far as the Panama Canal was concerned, for the US involvement, it had a great bit to do with connecting the East/West Coast fleets, a mjor defense initiative.

    • @rustomkanishka
      @rustomkanishka Před 2 měsíci

      I do believe that the canal does have a lot of use in global commerce, and more importantly, that story is better than the story of US imperialism. The latter kinda makes everyone uncomfortable.

  • @raedwulf61
    @raedwulf61 Před 2 měsíci +122

    The encroachment of the sea in the Nile Delta is due to the Aswan High Dam that prevents new silt from reaching it, which would thereby replenish the delta and contribute to its growth.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 Před 2 měsíci

      The more we try to "control" rivers, the more we get shown that nature doesn't care about what we want.

    • @ryanmaris1917
      @ryanmaris1917 Před 2 měsíci +11

      Isn't part of additional concerns with Nile levels dropping causing tensions between Ethiopia and Egypt and the Renaissance Dam project? I know the reservoir is still being filled and I think will take another 4 years or so to complete.

    • @etcetera.p.p
      @etcetera.p.p Před měsícem

      So when the mediterranean sea turns into a freshwaterbassin by blocking the atlantic ocean you will also have a red sea with freshwater which ethiopa/eritrea needs;never thought about that@@ryanmaris1917

    • @Dragrath1
      @Dragrath1 Před měsícem

      @@ryanmaris1917 The dam is a huge problem since it effectively blocks off the monsoonal floods that hit the East Ethiopian rise which have allowed the Nile to avoid drying out like the other major river systems in North Africa after the abrupt termination of the last African humid period.
      For context Africa thanks to its geography has for the last 8 million years been undergoing a precessional induced cycle regarding the relative strengths of the eastern and western Monsoons. When monsoons from the west are strong they can bring rain deep into the African interior however when the eastern monsoons dominate they smash into the East Ethiopian rise dropping out their moisture content as they are forced up and over the mountains.
      Thanks to orbital precession we entered the dry phase around 5,600 years ago or so but thanks to human land use via pastoral farmer's herds overgrazing the region this cyclic shift was greatly accelerated and thus the drying out of the Sahara occurred on the order of centuries rather than the typical thousands of years indicated by costal sediment records off the coast of Africa. The consequence is that in Africa Arabia and the middle east in general there was an abrupt drying out of the region which forced mass migrations of people to the few river systems which didn't dry out most notably the Nile which gained their precipitation primarily from the East Ethiopian Rise along the blue Nile tributary and the Tigris Euphrates which gained their source waters from Armenian highlands known to the ancient Babylonians as Ararat etc. There people were forced to for adapt to live in large groups beyond the size of individual tribal and family groups in fixed locations rather than the nomadic migration that has characterized our genus. It was these floods that enabled human civilization as we know it and made the region survivable without the floods there is no Nile there is no life Egypt with wither away like the rest of the Sahara. There is another major tributary that feeds into the Nile the White Nile however its flow rate is minor in comparison only 15% of the total flow of the river.
      Because of the importance of water for survival Ethiopia's dam quite literally is slowly destroying Egypt and will barring major diplomatic resolutions I can only imagine it eventually leading to a desperate war for survival.
      Honestly when you look at the metrics overall dams especially in tropical or subtropical regions don't make sense long term since huge dam reservoirs due to their enormous surface areas lose far more of their water to evaporation than would otherwise have been lost and large reservoir lakes are generally anoxic making them major methane production facilities that severe as one of the leading anthropogenic sources of the potent greenhouse gas second only to natural gas production.
      Research from independent sources like academic institutions and international watchdog groups not directly controlled by the hydroelectric industry have consistently found that the long term production of methane from artificial reservoirs is sufficiently large to cause the net carbon footprint for hydroelectric power generation to equal if not exceed that of coal. In other words in fighting climate change hydroelectric power is a major carbon source not a sink once we account for the changes such dams have on the local regional carbon cycle. The consequence is that while hydroelectric energy is renewable it is not in any semblance of manner green energy.
      Unfortunately these results have largely fallen on death ears since the hydroelectric industry has provided the lobbying base propping up the renewable energy initiatives since their early days. To make matters worse hydroelectric power is centralizable unlike wind and solar which means that it is preferred by governments who wish to maintain centralized control over the energy sector this means even bringing up these research results politically is a non starter despite the overwhelming body of evidence against the use of hydroelectric power. And yet the evidence shows that these dams are only accelerating the impacts of climate change.
      I would usually have linked sources but CZcams recently flagged my account for providing properly formatted citations. Given that search results are customized by algorithms it might be difficult to find the sources especially if your search history isn't strongly biased towards academic sources so your best bet for finding them will either be looking further down the list of search results or searching via google scholar or an equivalent academic focused search if you want more information.

  • @bradley772
    @bradley772 Před 2 měsíci +8

    When you mentioned that the 1930's Germans actually tried to engineer a new area of land, from the Mediterranean Seam to become a new nation, I was amazed.
    Frankly...i did NOT SEE
    that coming.

  • @Pushing_Pixels
    @Pushing_Pixels Před 2 měsíci +183

    Lowering water levels in the Mediterranean could have significant unintended consequences for environmental conditions around the sea (and possibly beyond it). You just have to look at what is happening with the disappearing Aral Sea, and the negative effects on precipitation in the region.

    • @oldtimefarmboy617
      @oldtimefarmboy617 Před 2 měsíci +21

      Look at how many rivers flow into the Mediterranean. At best the water level would increase when the river water can not drain into the Atlantic. At worse it would be static.
      The most expensive thing would be blocking all of the shipping that travels through the Strait of Gibraltar. That alone would prevent the dam from being built.

    • @joedaodragon3565
      @joedaodragon3565 Před 2 měsíci +10

      @@oldtimefarmboy617 locks.

    • @michaelkeefer5674
      @michaelkeefer5674 Před 2 měsíci +13

      @@oldtimefarmboy617 There is more water lost to evaporation than the rivers provide. Cut off flow from the Atlantic and the Mediterranean level will drop.

    • @williamgarner6779
      @williamgarner6779 Před 2 měsíci +10

      @@michaelkeefer5674 This is correct. It would become progressively saltier even if flow is allowed in from the atlantic. The mention of using this somehow to irrigate the Sahara is silly.

    • @oldtimefarmboy617
      @oldtimefarmboy617 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @oldtimefarmboy617 locks.
      Locks would require transferring water to the lower level and there is a whole lot of ship traffic into and out of the Mediterranean. And it takes the same amount of water for small hips as it does the really big ones.

  • @vavqnok473
    @vavqnok473 Před 2 měsíci +6

    There's a very high frequency sound throughout the whole video and it's driving me insane.
    Besides that, the video is very well done, I've been watching your videos for three years now and you'vw never failed to deliver good food for thought for all that time :)

  • @Trevorious2010
    @Trevorious2010 Před 2 měsíci +20

    I want to say three things:
    #1 this videos thumbnail and title was WAY too interesting for me to scroll past as I've never even heard of something this ambitious being proposed.
    Definitely got my attention and brought a new viewer to this channel.
    #2 I appreciate your off-beat witty sense of humor. The "soup box is tall" comment killed me 😂 instant subscribe!
    #3 you are not the first content creator Hanson Shaving have sponsored that I've watched.
    I didn't buy their product yet but I'm very serious about trying it as I perfer quality over quantity.
    Thank for the content! See you soon!

    • @CSpottsGaming
      @CSpottsGaming Před 2 měsíci

      If you've never seen something this ambitious you should look into the plan to use nuclear weapons to dig a channel with the goal of flooding the Sahara. Absolutely wild.
      Joe might have a video on it, I don't recall.

  • @WorldviewMedia
    @WorldviewMedia Před 2 měsíci +11

    I think you'll find that historical coastal inundation in areas around the Mediterranean has as much to do with sinking land as it has to do with rising sea levels. That's certainly true in Alexandria.

    • @PontificusPinion
      @PontificusPinion Před 2 měsíci +5

      NO! We must keep pushing climate catastrophism at all costs!

    • @TurningoffyourGaslights
      @TurningoffyourGaslights Před 29 dny

      Many places are sinking that is a fact...but they'll say it's the sea rising! It's climate change.
      Yep Keep the hysteria up

    • @contessa.adella
      @contessa.adella Před 18 dny

      Yeah…Joe pushes the climate agenda and therefore fails to mention Venice is sinking.

  • @simonachalupova7438
    @simonachalupova7438 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Honestly, easy shipping through the strait of Gibraltar to many major ports around the Mediterranean sounds like a lot of value for something that doesn't need to be maintained

  • @AaronSherman
    @AaronSherman Před 3 měsíci +403

    I really don't understand why people have such a hard time understanding the existential risk posed by puppies. These horrific and gruesome creatures lul us into a false sense of security, and brainwash the masses into caring for them. How is it that we have not taken action globally to combat this threat?

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 Před 3 měsíci +38

      I'm pretty sure I've heard almost exactly the same about children 🤣

    • @robertanderson5092
      @robertanderson5092 Před 3 měsíci +43

      The coming pupocalypse

    • @craigjohnston3431
      @craigjohnston3431 Před 3 měsíci +20

      Kittens are cuter too!!

    • @1one1one60
      @1one1one60 Před 3 měsíci +21

      And when are we going to talk about how much rainbows hurt stockholder values? Hmmmm?!1?

    • @pitchforksandtorches4671
      @pitchforksandtorches4671 Před 3 měsíci +18

      The entire taxonomic Order puppies belong to is nothing but deadly predators.

  • @kenmcnutt2
    @kenmcnutt2 Před 2 měsíci +7

    The power from the dam wouldn't just be about the length of the dam. The other factor maybe even more important is the difference in the height of the water from both sides.

  • @Ro_Ball
    @Ro_Ball Před 2 měsíci +5

    Another megaproject that I would like to hear you talk about is the flooding of the Qattara Depression to form a shallow salty lake in the Sahara to help regulate climate in the area.

  • @sv-et7gq
    @sv-et7gq Před 2 měsíci +9

    Just a crazy idea I thought of that probably wouldn't work. What if instead of building up dams and raising city's , we flood land and make new massive lakes in places that are scarily populated. I remember reading somewere that there was a plan to flood the Sahara desert. Do you think that this could lower sea levels? Perhaps a future episode could touch up on this.

    • @Brinta3
      @Brinta3 Před 2 měsíci +4

      There are only a few small areas in the Sahara desert that lie below sealevel. It really wouldn’t have any impact.
      When these plans were first made up a long time ago it was believed that most of the Sahara was below sealevel.

    • @zme2712
      @zme2712 Před 2 měsíci +5

      The centre of Australia was a sea/ really really big lake at some pint in history, there have been thought experiments on digging trenches from the coast to the centre and flood it again.

    • @psychiatry-is-eugenics
      @psychiatry-is-eugenics Před 2 měsíci

      Very doable compared to the other suggestions .

    • @psychiatry-is-eugenics
      @psychiatry-is-eugenics Před 2 měsíci


    • @stever5359
      @stever5359 Před měsícem

      The amount of power required to pump enough water to lower sea level would be astronomical.

  • @sandrino5
    @sandrino5 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I'm surprised that Panama canal commercial aspects were mentioned, but not closing Gibraltar. It's a massive shortcut between Asia and Europe trade. They could build locks, but that would still reduce traffic a lot

  • @jerrylong381
    @jerrylong381 Před 3 měsíci +1324

    Historically, mankind is excellent at deciding it might be a good time to tap the brakes, just as the front of the bus starts wrapping around the tree.

    • @uku4171
      @uku4171 Před 3 měsíci


    • @loriw2661
      @loriw2661 Před 3 měsíci +14


    • @2ndfloorsongs
      @2ndfloorsongs Před 3 měsíci +156

      I would have to disagree: This wonderful civilization we find ourselves in usually taps the brakes after they've wrapped a few thousand buses around trees and assorted other objects. Though it quite often waits until the hulk of the bus is in a junkyard and it requires archaeologists to figure out what a bus was, analyze the carcass of the bus and determine it's mechanical functions, identify brakes, and argue about whether the brakes should have been tapped or not. These arguments are usually inconclusive and any information derived is buried beneath the social chatter of whatever age happens to be happening.
      So, in short: Only a few humans know what a bus is, even fewer know what brakes are or how to use them, and no one can ever decide if they should be used or not.

    • @rustythecrown9317
      @rustythecrown9317 Před 3 měsíci


    • @SeeMeRolling
      @SeeMeRolling Před 3 měsíci +20

      @@2ndfloorsongs i love your analogy and OPs too

  • @sailingonasummerbreeze7892
    @sailingonasummerbreeze7892 Před 2 měsíci +4

    To keep shipping commerce going, they would need to open a pretty large set of locks....doable, but still adds to the expenses. But - an intriguing idea!

  • @EveloGrave
    @EveloGrave Před 2 měsíci +4

    I would love to work on a mega project. Assuming I live to see it finished I would get such a huge feeling of impact on Earth (hopefully for the better).

    • @chrissyboi88b
      @chrissyboi88b Před 2 měsíci

      Well hopefully it's not on the Gibraltar damn, because you'd be partly responsible for the genocide of millions of people. Why I hear you ask? Because of fish, the med is already over fished and if you close the only area fish can enter the med then ALL fish will disappear and the eco system WILL collapse meaning famine and mass movement of people. At least with just the sea level rising people can just move 100 yards inland problem solved.

  • @Tvianne
    @Tvianne Před 2 měsíci +1

    For the record: the Mose dam in Venice works. We've been using it for a while now and it works.

  • @dexstarksmarforcom7616
    @dexstarksmarforcom7616 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is the least of the issues with the current events in multiple countries right now. I just got the call yesterday in the middle of a family gathering , and my sons came in this morning,Can’t act like it wasn’t going to happen. I really enjoy your work a lot over the past few years keep it up and good luck with the future.

  • @ramiroaka9
    @ramiroaka9 Před 2 měsíci +3

    It would be interesting to see what anchient artifacts could be found near the shore lines

  • @darynvoss7883
    @darynvoss7883 Před 3 měsíci +295

    One problem you didn't mention is that the Strait of Gibraltar crosses an active tectonic fault. It's a problem that has stymied plans to build a tunnel or bridge across the Strait and might well inhibit the construction of a dam.

    • @MasterTMO
      @MasterTMO Před 3 měsíci +34

      The African plate is moving at 2.5 centimeters per year, if my google was correct. That dam would be slowly squished, on top of other problems.

    • @davidbeppler3032
      @davidbeppler3032 Před 3 měsíci +10

      Pick a mountain. Order it to be moved to the Strait. Send workers and machines to do it, until it is done. Problem solved. We move mountains over decades just to remove iron. We could easily move 10,000 million tons of mountain a year. Over 20 years, that is a lot of mountain. :)

    • @MohammedAli-hl4mr
      @MohammedAli-hl4mr Před 3 měsíci +31

      @@davidbeppler3032 so your idea is to just pile rocks on top of each other, engineering and construction are not that easy.

    • @greezooo
      @greezooo Před 3 měsíci +52

      The tectonic fault thing seems like a detail that should have made it into the video...

    • @stevemonkey6666
      @stevemonkey6666 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Yes it is my understanding from The Internet that over time Africa is moving faster in relation to Europe and will squish the Mediterranean into nothing

  • @tannerrichnak9406
    @tannerrichnak9406 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Joe, I really appreciate you mentioning that bit about G Z's perspective on the world. Because, yeah, I'm 24 now and within my entire existence there has been doom and gloom. Heck, I can remember, if barely, on 9/11 my family live across the river from NYC, and my sister and I were in preschool; my sister remembers that we were the last kids picked up when school was released early that day as both my parents worked in the city. Since then I've been constantly hearing about all the stuff that's gonna ruin my and everyone else's life. Especially recently with the previous presidency and all the social conflict that caused and surrounded it. As well as, and primarily, the constant warnings of climate change ang how our government seems to be fully incapable of doing anything about it. Idk man, it's really difficult having constantly impending doom for what I remember of the last 24 years. Sorry for the rant, but it really is what my and a lot of my peers perspective is.

  • @commanderkruge
    @commanderkruge Před 2 měsíci +2

    In Star Trek Next Generation's time large parts of the Mediterranean sea are not just dammed but actually water free. Turned into Farmland and cities and whatnot.

    • @ucfsab
      @ucfsab Před měsícem

      is that beta or alpha canon?

  • @ohtar2003
    @ohtar2003 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Joe using metric throughout the video. That's beautiful.

  • @andrewhooper7603
    @andrewhooper7603 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The Zanclean flood is always my second time travel choice. Absolutely bonkers moment.

  • @daveb.3169
    @daveb.3169 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Egypt has proposed an inland salt sea- very large damn and canal to make it. I think it would make an interesting video and this video made me want to see a video on the Egypt project

  • @kurt6497
    @kurt6497 Před 3 měsíci +119

    I was surprised you didn't touch on the disruption to global shipping. Several navies would also have a problem with this, e.g. the Russian Black Sea Fleet. Furthermore, if we dammed the Strait of Gibraltar and lowered se levels, the Suez canal would need to be redesigned with locks, etc.

    • @tomcummin6801
      @tomcummin6801 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Not to mention you are actually exacerbating sea level rise everywhere else, eh?

    • @frontiervirtcharter
      @frontiervirtcharter Před 2 měsíci +22

      If things keep going like they are in Ukraine and the Black Sea, in another year or two there might not be a Russian Black Sea Fleet...

    • @KaiHenningsen
      @KaiHenningsen Před 2 měsíci +7

      Also, if a Gibraltar dam generates hydropower, water flows from the Atlantic into the Mediterranean. Where does it go? If the surrounding seawater level is higher, it can't flow back out. Maybe it's not enough to make a practical difference, but maybe it is. Has someone run the numbers? (I'm assuming river water inflow matches evaporation - does it?)
      So many questions.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I just figured out how to solve this rising sea level thing!
      Put the extra water in rockets and fire it at Mars!

    • @ralphm6901
      @ralphm6901 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@KaiHenningsen if it's generating all that power, they can just pump the water back uphill, right??
      Yes, I know, that won't work. Don't hit me!! Guarantee soneone will propose it.

  • @DarkSorrow29
    @DarkSorrow29 Před 2 měsíci +1

    When I saw the title, I was hoping you would get more into the "technical" side of how the dam could be built... Maybe you could make a video on that as a sequel? :)

  • @lanpartyanimal5215
    @lanpartyanimal5215 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Besides the tectonic issue that someone has already addressed, the biggest issue I see with this whole thing is the fact that they would be trying to dam SALT WATER which, I assume since you mentioned it in passing, they want to use to generate power as well, though how that would help keep the Med from rising is beyond me. The problem with salt water is it is highly corrosive to anything metal especially those turbine blades that you would be using to generate that power you are looking for. Yes, I know there are ways help mitigate that, the use of stainless steel for one, however, stainless steel does not have the strength that other types of steel do. But heck, just make everything out of titanium. What's a few extra bucks anyway?

  • @zgreen9673
    @zgreen9673 Před 2 měsíci

    100% with you on the mental health of our youth, focusing videos on the positive & possible is truly honorable, and an amazing counter to the doom & gloom that oversaturates our media.

    • @GordonPavilion
      @GordonPavilion Před 2 měsíci +1

      Doom and gloom? What?
      You mean reality?

    • @zgreen9673
      @zgreen9673 Před 2 měsíci

      @@GordonPavilion it is all reality, it has always been the unfortunate reality that there has always been horrible things happen around the planet every day. Constant hyper focusing on the negative never helped anyone cope with the everyday stresses we all endure. There is a time and a place for people to learn about and reflect on the atrocities and potential danger that exist, but perpetuating that negativity through all aspects of our lives will only exacerbate that existential dread people already face. Joe is a force for good and has always used his own form of humor to inform us on things he finds interesting and keeping his message positive will only help to move our collective focus forward towards solutions to the issues instead of debilitating our society by fear and angst.

  • @sleepykot
    @sleepykot Před 2 měsíci

    people are saying theres a high pitched noise in the video but my tinnitus is so bad that it drowns it out lol

  • @LudicrousxArts
    @LudicrousxArts Před 2 měsíci +1

    I'm surprised no one mentioned how building the dam would disrupt trade. You'd have build a massive lock to be able to let ships pass as well as dam the area. And if you have a lock you'd have a toll which companies don't want to pay.

  • @nightjaronthegate
    @nightjaronthegate Před měsícem +2

    You cannot calculate the hydro power output of a dam from its width. The power depends on the flow rate and the drop.

  • @estraume
    @estraume Před 3 měsíci +205

    As an engineer, I think the main technical challenge with a Gibraltar Dam is the depth of the Gibraltar strait. You will need a lot of material to build such tall dam. However, the political and ecological challenges will probably stop it even though it would have been technically possible to build the dam.

    • @lazymass
      @lazymass Před 3 měsíci +27

      Yeah, people rather spend the money on wars... Looking at any war costs is saddening at best... Like really, we would be able to do so many great stuff instead, but no, guns and violence it is... humanity is sickening

    • @TheDennys21
      @TheDennys21 Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@lazymass indeed, humans just cannot get along, we are doomed.

    • @johnsmith1474
      @johnsmith1474 Před 3 měsíci +9

      The main challenge is that it's not necessary, for that reason it's good that it's largely not possible.

    • @FloSkSturmGraz
      @FloSkSturmGraz Před 3 měsíci +8

      A 900m x 12km dam would be something like building ~120 Burj khalifa next to each other and than closing the gaps at the top XD

    • @michaelborror4399
      @michaelborror4399 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@johnsmith1474 and I'm sure alot of dams must have sand in the concrete, while canoing across america lanes in the most futuristic depiction instead of hyperloop travel can definitely be possible and not require very many resources except at crossing points.

  • @timothyreed7241
    @timothyreed7241 Před 2 měsíci

    I don't have a Henson razor but I do use safety razor blades. I use Feather and Arko soap. It's the only blade that cuts my thick hair. I replace the blade every shave but at $0.30/blade I get a smooth shave every time. I definitely recommend it. I shave like once a week and just let it grow in between but if I had to shave every day it would be a new Feather safety blade every time. My facial hair is unnaturally thick and my dermatologist agrees only fresh sharp blades will do the trick safely. If you buy a Henson handle you can buy any safety blade and I recommend Feather even if they cost a little more. You most likely won't need to replace the blade even after 10 shaves. Tip: Don't use pressure let the weight of the handle do the work.

  • @Steve_1401
    @Steve_1401 Před 2 měsíci

    "Being constantly reminded about massive existential threat.........." The 1980's - Maggie, Ronnie and Leonid have that T-Shirt :D

  • @tomaskoszeghy2447
    @tomaskoszeghy2447 Před 2 měsíci

    This is the first time I came across this channel. Very nice composition, intelligent and also funny. It was good to watch and I think this was the first video ever where it was interesting to hear about the sponsor of the video. Have a nice day and all the best!

  • @chriskaprys
    @chriskaprys Před 2 měsíci +1

    I'd love to see a video more on the points you made throughout this one; namely choices and projects in human history where we've actually been preemptive and cooperatively changed behaviour to successfully mitigate some threat. Of course, it may be difficult to measure that success since a disaster probably has more metrics than the absence of one. Still, it'd be cool to hear those stories, if they exist, especially if it came about due to interests in quality of life rather than the gain in a leading edge by corporations.

    • @ZER0punk
      @ZER0punk Před 2 měsíci +1

      Their are 2 I can name off the top of my head. I can't remeber his name but the guy who figured out how old the earth is by examining half life's of different elements. Discovered their was lead in the air that shouldn't be there. He did studies on the ocean and artic that showed it was done by man (specificity the gas industry). He launched a massive lawsuit against gas companies. Which also triggered public outcry and a movement against leaded gasoline. It's why too this day you see signs saying unleaded gasoline at gas stations.
      Another big one you might remember all the talk about holes in the ozone layer back in the 90's. What you might not know is how a major project found a substitute to freon and how filters where made for smoke stacks to deal with the problems with acid rain.
      Actually another one is the tooth fairy project. Which is the reason we don't test nuclear bombs anymore and don't build certain nuclear power plants. Because they release Sr-90 into the atmosphere. Which is a radioactive compound that is similar in shape to the calcium stored in your bones and teeth. Which results in being stored up in your bones and teeth. Which radioactive material getting stored in the body is really bad.
      It's crazy how all of these mega-projects. People where able to see and admit that they were the cause of human intervention. Understanding just how devastating humans can be on the earth and the environment but yet plenty of people today honestly think climate change has nothing to do with humans.

    • @John_Weiss
      @John_Weiss Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@ZER0punk Another one is "the Y2K Problem". Nothing happened because software developers, like me, spent all of 1998 and 1999 working overtime fixing _and testing_ systems to make sure everything that could break was replaced in time. And many of us gave up New-Years Eve 1999 to be on-call to do any last-minute fixes that might have been needed.
      We did our jobs, fixed the problem ahead of time, stayed on-call _just to be sure,_ and it worked. Proves that humans _can_ work together to prevent a catastrophe from happening.

    • @ZER0punk
      @ZER0punk Před měsícem +1

      @@John_Weiss that's another one deffinitly. I remeber hearing a story about a medical worker who couldn't update a patient's medical records because the system thought the patient hadn't been born yet (I want to say this happened before 2000 and the guy was born in the late 1800s). That one is also a great example of public perception. Most people didn't realize all the work that went into fixing that problem. Instead it was viewed as people worrying over nothing. That's IT for you. If you do things right people will think you've done nothing at all.

    • @John_Weiss
      @John_Weiss Před měsícem

      @@ZER0punk Yeah, upper management thinks if it's not visible to them, nobody's doing anything. 🙄
      That was the case where I work now. The main system that's used to sign up new customers, close accounts on old customers, cancel parts of service, upgrade service, or do any other changes was, when I joined, so old that it would go down hard. One of the managers had been running around with his hair on fire about the situation, especially since parts of it were using software made by a company that no longer existed, and was running on Solaris hardware from 10 years earlier that was long since no longer supported.
      One week, it went down hard, so hard, that the aforementioned manager, the seniormost software developer, and the 2 senior consultants just … disappeared. Left their cell phones at their desks, took their laptops, went into an unidentified conference room, and didn't come out until the system was back up and running, and all stalled/queued-up orders had flowed through and been processed. Took over a week.
      The _second_ time that happened, upper management *_FINALLY_* listened and _gave approval_ to _start planning_ for writing the replacement system. 🙄
      I think that's why so much "hysteria" was drummed up around Y2K: Basically convincing upper-management that their companies were going to _completely collapse _*_AND_* leave them with massive lawsuits as a result was the only way to get them to fscking do _anything._ Unfortunately, it ended up panicking lots of people who didn't _need to_ care about the problem. ☹

  • @CartoonHero1986
    @CartoonHero1986 Před 2 měsíci

    "It would be a target for terrorism"
    Cut to my brain flashing images of Blazkowicz in Wolfenstein (2009) where his mission is to destroy the Gibraltar Euro-African Bridge in their timeline and how it is one of the most badass scenes in the game... Yes Joe I think you're 100% right on that

  • @atoth62
    @atoth62 Před 3 měsíci +156

    Just seems a little strange that the Suez canal wasn't mentioned. Any Gibraltar dam project would need to deal with the fact that there's already another exit/entrance to the Mediterranean

    • @joescott
      @joescott  Před 3 měsíci +94

      Yeah, there are various versions of this idea that involve damming the Suez and closing off the Black Sea as well. I suppose I could have talked about it but those wouldn't be quite the ordeal that Gibraltar would be so I just kinda focused on that.

    • @Jameson1776
      @Jameson1776 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Good point.

    • @rustythecrown9317
      @rustythecrown9317 Před 3 měsíci +12

      @@joescott Who pays for the initial build?... who pays for the upkeep?... who pays for the extra costs to now travel around Africa to points east?... who came up with this fkng stupid idea in the first place?. So many sane questions need to be answered before this insanity is eventually binned.

    • @vyvianalcott1681
      @vyvianalcott1681 Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@joescott I seriously doubt the land would be worth as much as the shipping route that doesn't have to go all the way around Africa but humans aren't very good at making those decisions

    • @sirclarkmarz
      @sirclarkmarz Před 3 měsíci +12

      If ever a project should be built I think NATO would want control of it , and there would have to be a series of locks big enough to let aircraft carriers come and go .

  • @9milliondollarman
    @9milliondollarman Před 2 měsíci

    From ResearchGate: After 1960 the sea level in the Mediterranean is decreasing with rates up to -1.3 mm yr-1, while in the Black Sea the sea level trend remains unaltered and at the Atlantic stations sea level keeps rising with reduced rates of 1.0-1.2 mm yr-1.

  • @mors_vobis_omnibus
    @mors_vobis_omnibus Před 2 měsíci +1

    Have you looked into all of the delays and additional costs of sending food items and medical supplies all the way around South America, compared to the Panama canal? I just saw news a couple of days ago about the hundreds of ships waiting to go through the canal causing shortages around the US.

  • @CSpottsGaming
    @CSpottsGaming Před 2 měsíci

    The comment about drilling rigs operating deeper than the deepest bridge sounded incorrect to me as a person with a background in Petroleum Engineering so I had a little Google. Turns out it is. There are several different kinds of drilling rigs, but the ones that operate in deep water are all semi-submersible rigs or drillships (i.e. supported by buoyancy and held in place by advanced onboard systems).
    Jackup rigs (which actually prop themselves up on the bottom) operate at a maximum seafloor depth of around 120m, like the bridge you mentioned. Those are the ones I think we care about given that we're looking at the technical challenge of supporting something on the seafloor (vs. just drilling through it).

  • @daveth121864
    @daveth121864 Před 2 měsíci

    The David McCollough book on the Panama Canal is fascinating. It still amazes me that it's even there and operable.

  • @marshalleubanks2454
    @marshalleubanks2454 Před 2 měsíci

    This was proposed as Atlantropa by the German architect Herman Sörgel in (or maybe even before) 1928. I think he also wanted to lower the Med sea level by a few hundred meters to provide more agricultural land.

    • @hansvonmannschaft9062
      @hansvonmannschaft9062 Před 2 měsíci

      He mentions it in the segment called... **cough cough** _"Atlantropa,"_ where he also says that in the 1920's there were nazis around.
      Thus I perfectly understand why you stopped watching earlier. Gonna add this one to "do not recommend channel". But might eventually launch a "science" channel where I talk about "protecting the environment and Earth and stuff", it draws people in like crazy and sells way better than any other snake oil. Have a nice day.

  • @Skylancer727
    @Skylancer727 Před 3 měsíci +49

    I think the main reason many of these aren't being pursued is that it makes shipping lanes more complicated and limited. That's a big source of income to limit.

    • @ejokurirulezz
      @ejokurirulezz Před 2 měsíci +1

      Not just income, also imports for other countries.

    • @skeptibleiyam1093
      @skeptibleiyam1093 Před 2 měsíci +7

      As long as you are doing something as bonkers as damning the Gibraltar Strait, why not include a set of locks to allow ships to pass?

    • @Skylancer727
      @Skylancer727 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @skeptibleiyam1093 you can, but it would cause a bottleneck that wasn't there before. Plus that would have to be done before completion of the dam otherwise all imports and exports will stall for that period

  • @winstonrumfoord7927
    @winstonrumfoord7927 Před 2 měsíci

    When faced with changing behaviour to fix our mistakes or putting someone in charge who tells you that you haven't made any mistakes guess which one people are opting for

  • @DragonDrummer2
    @DragonDrummer2 Před 2 měsíci

    Maybe, if we finished these mega projects, we could look back at the narrowly avoided catastrophe and say, wow, that was a close shave. And that’s why I want to tell you about today’s sponsor.

  • @richardrhodes9664
    @richardrhodes9664 Před měsícem

    Just found you Joe. About to binge all of your videos. Glad to be here!

  • @GeoffCanyon
    @GeoffCanyon Před 2 měsíci +2

    One thing I don't think you mentioned that is critical to the whole dam (if you can make that pun, I can) project is that there is a net inflow of water to the mediterranean basin through the Strait of Gibraltar, even though there is flow into the Mediterranean from the Black Sea and the Nile. Otherwise the dam would have to pump water *out* of the Mediterranean.

    • @JaneDoe-dg1gv
      @JaneDoe-dg1gv Před 26 dny

      No, the Mediterranean sea is evaporative meaning it is always loosing water. The Gibraltar straight is the main source of water.

    • @GeoffCanyon
      @GeoffCanyon Před 16 dny

      @@JaneDoe-dg1gv That's literally what I said.

    • @JaneDoe-dg1gv
      @JaneDoe-dg1gv Před 16 dny

      @@GeoffCanyon Check your wording again. You said that the dam would have to pump water out of the Mediterranean which is false. Without the Straight of Gibraltar, the Mediterranean will lose water. The way you phrased it implies that because there are other inflows, the dam doesn't have to pump out.

    • @GeoffCanyon
      @GeoffCanyon Před 15 dny

      @@JaneDoe-dg1gv I did not say the dam would have to pump water out of the Mediterranean. I said "there is a net inflow of water to the mediterranean basin through the Strait of Gibraltar" -- that is true: as you say, without "the Straight of Gibraltar" (your words)/"net inflow" (my words) the Mediterranean would lose water.
      Joe didn't talk about that, and if it weren't for that, the dam would have to pump water out of the Mediterranean. But as we have both said, there is a net inflow of water through the Straight of Gibraltar, so if the dam maintains a lower water level in the Mediterranean than in the Atlantic Ocean (as Joe describes) the dam would be able to harness that flow to generate electricity.

  • @rachellestivers6591
    @rachellestivers6591 Před 2 měsíci +1

    An especially good episode! I learned so much!

  • @evanwetzel8641
    @evanwetzel8641 Před 3 měsíci +63

    Joe, this is the content we have all been coming here for over the years. Good show ol' chap.

  • @themexis
    @themexis Před 2 měsíci

    I'm usually casually entertained by your videos, but that soapbox bit made me chuckle.

  • @wallyblackler46
    @wallyblackler46 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Imagine saving the Mediterranean Sea, and raising the ocean all around the Earth, because of it very smart

  • @JohnSmith-cq7lk
    @JohnSmith-cq7lk Před 2 měsíci +2

    Theres an area of land in either libya or egypt which is lower than sea level. There was once a proposal to dig a trench and flood the area hopefully creating an ecosystem. Has anyone heard of this?

    • @saxonsoldier67
      @saxonsoldier67 Před měsícem +1

      The Qatarra Depression in Egypt. Flooding it could hold 1213 cubic km of seawater and lower sea level worldwide by roughly 3 mm if I did my math correctly (while displacing 300 people that live there).

  • @WilliamRWarrenJr
    @WilliamRWarrenJr Před 2 měsíci +1

    To go from the Atlantic to the Pacific via the Panama Canal, you have to travel west to east.

  • @DJScootagroov
    @DJScootagroov Před 2 měsíci +2

    This definitely won’t have horrendous unintended consequences.

  • @johnmcnulty4425
    @johnmcnulty4425 Před 2 měsíci +38

    Crossing the Straight of Gibraltar while traveling Europe by rail back in the late 1980's was a highlight of my experience while living abroad. The image of seeing Africa for the first time by water was sublime!

    • @sigmasquadleader
      @sigmasquadleader Před 2 měsíci

      How did you cross the Straight of Gibraltar on rail...?
      This line of questioning is a burden I must bear, a grlizzy task, you could say.

    • @johnmcnulty4425
      @johnmcnulty4425 Před 2 měsíci

      My interrail pass included boat crossings as well..

    • @warmicecubes2161
      @warmicecubes2161 Před 2 měsíci

      Strait 😑

  • @alexanderrad3458
    @alexanderrad3458 Před 2 měsíci +1

    One problem I think no one has mentioned is that the water from the Mediterranean will rain out in the other oceans and raise sea levels everywhere else….

  • @ChadWilson
    @ChadWilson Před 2 měsíci +1

    Okay, hear me out: The Qattara Depression. It seems like a crazy idea, but that depression is DEEP. If they dug two or three canals from the Med to that depression, it could empty a lot of sea water into the desert, eventually creating the Qattara Sea.

  • @marcelmontes6994
    @marcelmontes6994 Před 2 měsíci

    Hi Joe! Long ttime follower here, I live in Seville (100 mi from Gibraltar) and I can talk in name of all the people at south Spain and say that we DON´T WANT.a land connection witth medieval Africa. Even if electricity is for free for the rest of my life.

  • @murryburnett2562
    @murryburnett2562 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It is possible to dam the Gibralter straight but to my records the medeterannian has two oceanic entries. The Suez will also need locks. Now also take into account all the shipping that uses both of these routes on a daily basis and there is a bigger problem to resolve.

    • @saxonsoldier67
      @saxonsoldier67 Před měsícem

      True. However, look at it from a government perspective. 2 series of canal locks to charge additional fees. I'm shocked that a tax agent somewhere hasn't proposed this idea already.

  • @andremartel828
    @andremartel828 Před 2 měsíci

    Is this like putting a sub surface tunnel across the straight.
    By the way.
    It's a fault line.
    Where do you get the materials to build and fill it?

  • @Khyranleander
    @Khyranleander Před 3 měsíci +19

    Another prob with the Gibraltar dam is exactly what you said: it's between continents. As in, continental plates, which are not moving in perfect synch with each other. There's enough vids explaining the issues of putting up bridges or tunnels there, yet that's nothing compared to putting in a water-tight seal all the way down!

    • @RedXlV
      @RedXlV Před 2 měsíci

      You don't want a water-tight seal, though. *Stopping* the flow of the Atlantic into the Mediterranean would be an absolute catastrophe. We only want to slow it down. Even Herman Sorgel's plan to lower the sea level by 200 meters would've ended up being quite awful. But if a dam were actually built, the goal would only be to lower the sea level by *one meter* or less.

  • @andyhessler5896
    @andyhessler5896 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Where are you getting an elevation difference to create hydraulic power from?

  • @v0idation
    @v0idation Před 2 měsíci +1

    What about shipping, Joe? Surely not being able to sail in and out of the Mediterranean would have huge economic impact on the commerce and industry of the whole region.

  • @user-pt9lt7kd8u
    @user-pt9lt7kd8u Před 2 měsíci

    Excellent. I've been waiting for this. 😂

  • @Charlie-UK
    @Charlie-UK Před 2 měsíci

    The UK, would have something to say about a Med dam. Gibraltar is a major Naval base for the UK, and still controls maritime shipping in the Med. Sea Locks, for a dam that size would be a gargantuan undertaking. It would only be possible, while we still had access to Fossil fuels, the mind boggles...

  • @sjTHEfirst
    @sjTHEfirst Před 2 měsíci

    That’s crazy, I was just about to comment about the Star Trek link when you mentioned it. 😂😂

  • @LuisAldamiz
    @LuisAldamiz Před 3 měsíci +49

    The Melilla Massacre was no "stampede": it was a police-made massacre, mostly by the Moroccan police but with very real help by the Spanish one.

    • @daigoaisabli
      @daigoaisabli Před 3 měsíci

      Reduccionista e infantil, un tipo que nunca tuvo que proteger nada es un niño que no sabe, un inocente que llora porque el colacao tiene grumos.
      Y pretenderá escribir sin haber leído.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz Před 2 měsíci

      @@hamzab1368 - Spain does not exist, you must mean Castille.
      Also don't be a bigot, remember how Morocco invaded and destroyed West Africa and more recently West Sahara and Arif (all with European imperialist complicity).

  • @ObsceneSuperMatt
    @ObsceneSuperMatt Před 2 měsíci +1

    6:45 Wouldn't using the dam to make hydropower directly conflict with the goal of keeping the water level in the Mediterreanean low?

    @DAFLIDMAN Před 2 měsíci +1

    Dude that star trek reference was DEEP!!!

  • @Dawgnation4o
    @Dawgnation4o Před měsícem

    Could you put links to the older videos in the bio? Love the channel!

  • @d.b.398
    @d.b.398 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Please make a video about the Zanclean flood!! This is such a fascinating topic to me and I'd love a deep dive. Ha. Ha. Kneeslap

  • @willgriff
    @willgriff Před 2 měsíci

    I just recently fell onto this topic and it's funny to me that you're just making a video about it. Long time watcher first time commenter

  • @acarpentersson8271
    @acarpentersson8271 Před 3 měsíci +51

    One of the most interesting things about rising sea levels due to climate change is how selective it is. To be fair, the Mediterranean has lost many port cities to rising sea levels, or perhaps a sinking ground level. These port cities sank below the waves 2,000 years ago +/-.
    But, I live near coastal areas and we haven't seen any of this sniper selective sea rise.

    • @tronalddump2267
      @tronalddump2267 Před 2 měsíci +3

      that's the weirdest thing I ever heard, sea levels are supposed to be one of the most uniform things

    • @dudeatos
      @dudeatos Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@tronalddump2267 sea level isn't uniform at all actually! Changes in Earth's gravitational field can change sea level, as can things like pressure changes!

    • @frankmueller2781
      @frankmueller2781 Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@tronalddump2267and yet the Pacific is several feet higher than the Atlantic. That is why the Panama Canal has locks.

    • @tronalddump2267
      @tronalddump2267 Před 2 měsíci +18

      @@frankmueller2781 aren't the locks there because the canal goes over land which is elevated above sea level

    • @acarpentersson8271
      @acarpentersson8271 Před 2 měsíci

      You don't say

  • @lastspring
    @lastspring Před 2 měsíci

    Pressure at the Strait of Gibraltar could be affected by raising the floor at the neck of the straight.
    It wouldn't create a full dam, but more of a hydrostatic pressure dam. Simulations would be needed to see if any effect on the Mediterranean levels from a dynamic point of the view.

  • @flyjet787
    @flyjet787 Před 2 měsíci

    Love the new look of the show!
    Also....has Joe been working out?

  • @aces6123
    @aces6123 Před 2 měsíci

    I want your shirt haha. Great video as always

  • @beaubryant2120
    @beaubryant2120 Před 2 měsíci

    Love you man!! Keep up good work!

  • @readtruth6670
    @readtruth6670 Před měsícem +1

    But what happens when there’s a freakish flood in the mountain regions and it can’t be pumped into the Atlantic fast enough? Bye bye Venice? Historically, it’s a much drier zone, but it only takes one big breakaway anomaly.

  • @TheApplecyder
    @TheApplecyder Před 3 měsíci +21

    The caspian sea, the aral sea, the red sea, the dead sea, the black sea are all also either entirely or at least mostly enclosed by land.

    • @jesusramirezromo2037
      @jesusramirezromo2037 Před 3 měsíci

      I think the Mediterranean is the only true sea
      Caspian, Dead, and Black are basically lakes

    • @troelspeterroland6998
      @troelspeterroland6998 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Well, the Black Sea is a sea but is often considered part of the Mediterranean.

  • @lady_draguliana784
    @lady_draguliana784 Před 2 měsíci +3

    My Henson Razor Experience : The blade didn't. Take much hair off, but it DID shred my skin to hell. Customer service noted that it's not designed to shave smooth, making it useless for me. Their customer service was great though and gave me a refund.
    If you're okay with a 5 o'clock shadow kinda shave, and you have really tough skin, and like to shave ritualistically, it might work better for you, but for me, it was a MASSIVE waste, and a literal pain.

    • @rustomkanishka
      @rustomkanishka Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks. I was considering buying a pack.
      I prefer being clean shaven and I genuinely hate paying Gillette for blades, so the search continues.

  • @gedduncan2454
    @gedduncan2454 Před 2 měsíci

    Fascinating. Though maybe odd not to mention the 100k ships/year passing through the straits, many via Suez? 🤔

  • @knightrider585
    @knightrider585 Před 2 měsíci

    I like how this video about the scientific inevitability of sea level rises through global warming includes a story about a 1997 scientist concerned about an immanent ice age.

  • @michaeljohn5175
    @michaeljohn5175 Před 2 měsíci

    You suggested this dam would generate power. That is only possible if the dam would be releasing Mediterranean water into the Atlantic since the Mediterranean is constantly being supplied by river water (which has to go somewhere). This is how it would had to have worked in the Star Trek novel. However, if the idea is to keep the Atlantic from flooding the Mediterranean coasts, you'd have to do just the opposite. This would require power to constantly pump Mediterranean river flow over the dam into the Atlantic to keep a lower water level in the basin. I'd imagine the cost to constantly pump this water would ultimately be more than the cost of building/maintaining the dam itself.

  • @SuperVlerik
    @SuperVlerik Před 3 měsíci +29

    I'd love to hear a lot more feedback on the idea from Mediterranean based ecologists, sociologists, and sure, even economists. This seems like the sort of plan championed by people who won't have to deal with its impacts.

  • @philipliethen519
    @philipliethen519 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Insane! It’s insane! Totally insane. Utterly insane insanity! Way more insane than other insane things!

  • @BrianTrybus
    @BrianTrybus Před 2 měsíci

    Fun to listen to. Keep up the good work!

  • @CatsAreAliens00
    @CatsAreAliens00 Před měsícem

    That razor looks so dangerous 😮 it gave me anxiety 😂 not the constant existential crisis we face everyday 😂 I'm numb to that at this point

  • @DougJessee
    @DougJessee Před 2 měsíci

    I first saw this concept in a sci-fi novel… as a mega project to provide power.

  • @pranaynagpure2804
    @pranaynagpure2804 Před 2 měsíci

    Brilliant video but puppies thing was uncalled for 😂

  • @ridwanhossain2343
    @ridwanhossain2343 Před 3 měsíci +15

    Love your videos! Your opinion on puppies will divide people but it needs to be heard. Thank you for your bravery.

    • @ytcensorhack1876
      @ytcensorhack1876 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I agree regarding puppies. Not a cat person tho

  • @Dauti_
    @Dauti_ Před měsícem

    How does the shipping traffic work? The graphic at 7:34 suggests a channel is left for ships, but then doesn't this mean that the water levels between the Mediterranean sea and the Atlantic ocean are the same? Doesn't this in turn mean there's no gradient over which the water falls? How then is the electricity generated?

  • @seanbaskett5506
    @seanbaskett5506 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Building a dam at Gibraltar is just a manmade way to recreate the Zanclean Flood by accident. Can you imagine how many AA guns, SAMs and sub nets would be required to maintain security there?

  • @stevel2245
    @stevel2245 Před měsícem +2

    Venice is sinking because it was built in a marsh and they pumped out the fresh water beneath it. Not because of sea level rise. This is an insane idea as you titled the video.

  • @roccov3614
    @roccov3614 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I think the biggest issue would be trying to stop that much water. How much water goes through there?