Destiny 2: I hope you're all over this SMG for PvP. It has EVERYTHING!
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- čas přidán 15. 09. 2022
- What a great job they did with this one. Literally every pvp perk you would want is here. In this video I actually go through all the perks and how they interact with the frame and fluid dynamic origin trait. It's up to you on what you want to fit your playstyle.
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What do you think of it?
I would highly advise trying out the Amit ar2 because that auto rifle despite it being a 450 is surprisingly consistent I have a crafted role on it and Amit is doing wonders for me I've even using PVP despite its perks but dynamic sway is pretty nice. Also I don't know if it's me but whenever a auto rifle has high record direction it tends to feel more inconsistent as if it's jumping out of my hands. On as to why I am vouching for the amit if solely because of the 450 Auto rifle buff that makes this thing almost hit his hard as vex with a faster fire.
I was grinding the Iron Lord title on my alt and got so many good rolls that now I want to get some rolls on my main ... I wish there were more weeks of triple xp...
It's incredible. Got one with 62 range/33 stability/62 handling with perpetual, KC and HCR and it's just awesome, feels great for PVP. Very smooth. Insta pvp classic. Only downside is that I feel overconfident on wielding it.
It rained nothing but PvE rolls for me during Iron Banner, Subsistence Golden Tricorn/Demolitionist Golden Tricorn/Grave Robber Swashbuckler/Threat Detector Surrounded, but I don't think I saw a single Kill Clip roll the entire week. Oh well, combatants hate it!
I somehow got a perk for perk perfect roll after like 4 drops, and its amazing!
Something that's interesting, and a lesson learned from you. I realized I do best with "win now" perks that give me an advantage getting the first kill, not the follow up (win later). Thanks for that.
That's me too. I usually get team shot mauled so much on the follow up encounters that i focus on what can help me get that initial duel kill. Works out a lot better.
Funny enough I started realizing I am the opposite I loose focus or get cocky and the win later perks allow me the ttk or dueling efficiencies to make those mistakes big or small with comfort and enjoy my playstyle while improving it by being aware.
Same. I build every gun to be the best in the now, not in a theoretical kill chain.
@@Suuuede i've lost waaaay too many 1v1 to get cocky 😅. on a weapon like this tho, splitting the difference of first contact vs followup with something like perpetual or moving target / kill clip i could probably do some work with. a little something on both sides of the fight
i realised this a while back in like 2019 when i got my dsr + tap the trigger black scorpion 4sr... i miss that thing but not enough to keep it past sunsetting. now i'm waiting for bungie to release another veist rapid-fire scout that can roll that combo. if it ends up craftable too... i might actually enjoy the crucible again 🥵🥵🥵
Got a few variations of Dynamic Sway/ Rangefinder, and I love them. Bonus stability at the top and bottom of the mag with better range makes for a very consistent roll
I landed this roll with ricochet rounds and fullbore, though I'd prefer corkscrew or smallbore. The thing is a laser. I use it in combination with Forerunner. It is amazing.
@@yourcanadianidol I use mine with forerunner too!
That's the roll I am waiting for.
I have a pretty nice jack of all trades roll, I got hammer forged, ricochet, range MW and rangefinder so it's got awesome range.
Then I got subsistence and the alternate perk next to rangefinder is golden tricorn, so I've got subsistence/rangefinder for PVP and subsistence/Tricorn for PVE on the same roll, I'm really happy with it.
Personally, I think dynamic sway doesn’t work well with this gun bc it takes .6 seconds to activate and you’re already around halfway through the mag at that point. I think having pulse monitor+rangefinder is better because if you get injured, even if you’re blasting the smg and low on ammo, it reloads and you can keep spraying
Rangefinder threat detector has absolutely been feeling buttery smooth. Plus it basically has built in tap the trigger with its foundry perk. It’s so nice
The feel, the origin trait, the ttk....
The last time I was this excited for a Crucible weapon was Frozen Orbit!
Don't forget aesthetic! Olomon smgs look so cool!
@@herbilk8093 agreed, they really have nailed that too. Honestly, although I prefer D1 armour for the most part, these weapons are WAY better looking in D2
Big thing about this gun which i don't see talked about enough, it is an arc weapon with grave robber and swash together that combo on an arc hunter or titan is insane
I use a roll like that for Pve. Grave robber+tricorn would also be nuts for Titans and warlocks
@@SupremeBananaLord and hunter still too with combination blow lol
Always solid with the reviews. Thanks to you, I recognized Harmony as an S tier pvp perk. Out of Bounds and Submission with double Harmony on Peacekeepers Titan has been so much fun. Also have the classic heating up/kill clip which is great
That sounds amazing lmao, should try it with Tarrabah for extra meme-beam potential
Been running the same kit but with Forensic Nightmare instead of Submission, (ain't had an opportunity to do the raid yet), and it's smashing good fun!
@@Laevaryl I tried Tarrabah and it works great but the idea is constant swapping between Smgs, which kind of ruins the Tarrabah momentum. Tarrabah slaps still
I'm going to add 2 more rolls that I think are worth a shout.
1: pulse monitor/under-over
Going into 3v3 playing against a lot of overshield titans, this allows you to rip those shields off quickly and get an instant mag reload while in combat essentially allowing you to fire 2 mags worth of ammo with every engagement without reloading.
2: dynamic sway/rangefinder
Great at dueling and getting the initial kill. Kill clip has more after kill potential, but if you're trying to get the initial kill, this is the roll you're looking for.
Good video as always coolguy!!!
I wanna say thank you, before watching your videos my destiny experience really sucked. You taught me things that I never knew about, your videos are extremely detailed and you leave no word unsaid. Thanks for your videos and all the effort you put into making these.
I can't stress enough how good heating up + golden tricorn feels in PvE. With golden tricorn x2 on top of character bound damage buffs im literally evaporating yellow bars in raids with a primary. It's crazy
Solid video. I love the breakdown on perks and potential combos. I also love how excited you are about the gun. Keep up that awesome content.
I got the exact roll your talking about at the end and can confirm it’s the best roll I tried. I tried a bunch of KC rolls but without rangefinder it just wasn’t as magnetic.
My roll is hammer forged, ricochet rounds (godly on this), killing wind, rangefinder and range masterwork. It’s by far the best legendary smg I’ve played with.
I tend to prefer Threat Detector because I usually only use SMGs as swap weapons to punish shotgun rushers. The faster I can get the weapon out, the more likely I am to put them down before they get in range.
I have a subsistence or grave robber w/ golden tricorn roll and its by far my favorite pve weapon right now. Golden tricorn x2 procs on a powered melee kill. With knockout on arc titan, unpowered melees with knockout counts as a powered melee for GT essentially giving you 100% up time on a 50% weapon damage boost while still being able to easily stack font of might.
Dynamic Sway Reduction actually works instantly when you fire and gradually gets to its maximum effect after 0.6 secs
Been waiting for your review of this all week! I've gotten at least 50 of these and my favorite rolls are max range PM/RF, HU/KC, and KW/RF. So many amazing rolls to try, my vault is busting at the seams!
Yep. Actually been running a double primary set up our Outbreak and this. Really fun to use.
Imagine if this thing could have Phase Mag...
Edit: If you're an Arc Titan using Heart of Inmost Light and have that Storm Nade spam build, go for Demo + Golden Tricorn in PvE. You'll pretty much always have that +50% damage up for ad clear or to melt majors.
Man I dropped so many OoB’s that I actually ended up deleting all of them… except this one for the exact reason you stated!
Demo/Tricorn is such a good roll for PvE grenade builds. Still chasing that on an Unforgiven for my Void lock
Good stuff 👍🏽I am going to post this in my clan Discord & use it for training.
I really enjoy this SMG! My current roll is Killing Wind, Rangefinder with both Arrowhead and Hammerforge for barrels.
I'm satisfied with it but my ideal roll would be either Moving Target and Kill Clip or Killing Wind and Kill Clip.
Love this thing! My favorite roll so far is Threat Detector / Golden Tricorn and it's been effective and extremely fun in both PVP and PVE. It just synergizes so well with Arc 3.0 and the focus on speed and mobility. Definitely a great option!
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Was great playing you, in IB ❤
Great review! Only thing is that the hero's burden isn't a lightweight, its an adaptive, so it has a diff time to kill. Therefore I would say that kill clip is unique to this weapon
Lovely vid fantastic info. Big fan 😎
My first drop of this smg this season had threat detector and surrounded and had been my main pve primary ever since
Perpetual motion/kill clip with handling masterwork. Love it. I've got a Funnel Webb and Heros Burden with better stats across the board but Out of Bounds just feels great.
For PVE things I've got both a Demo / Tricorn and Subsistence / Tricorn. I'm having a ton of fun with them on my Heart of Inmost Light Storm Grenade Titan (it's a slight variant of the build Aztecross put out), but personally prefer the Subsistence roll - it's just a bit more mindless to kill and get the reload that way than the grenade throw to reload combo, even though that's probably better.
I was grinding IB for a Perpetual Motion/Kill Clip roll, as that's always been a "feel good" roll for me in the past. A match or two later I get a Subsistence/Swash roll, and fell in love as soon as I tried it. This is a great-feeling gun, for sure.
I have a bunch of good rolls from rocking a prosperity mod during eruption, but got a hammer forged, ricochet, killing wind, rangefinder with a range masterwork that is very nice. Perpetual motion with tricorn has also been nice in PvE
Love it. I used tunnel vision/rangefinder and it felt great but now I have hip fire/rangefinder
I rocking at Heating up/Swash and its doing wonders for me. I do have a Perp/Gun shot and its my fav.
I've got like 7 or 8 of these now in my vault waiting for a good roll. I absolutely love this gun!
I got a KW + RF roll. About to go ham in crucible now since I’ve seen this video. As always the best analysis CoolGuy🙌🏾
I got a killing wind/range finder roll fairly quickly. I've kept other rolls... but that roll is just INSANE. It's literally so good. I have high-cal on it as well.
i got a role last week while playing iron banner, killing wind with tap the trigger. Its an absolute beam, I paired it with PK titan for the first time and its so fun
I got a Smallbore, High Cal, Killing Wind, Rangefinder roll that quickly became one of my favorite crucible guns, it feels so good to use.
Just last week in the middle of Iron Banner I finally pulled that Killing Wind Rangefinder roll and I have been REAL excited to bring it into Trials this weekend.
I absolutely love this thing. I have so many nice rolls with it and have been playing around with it. Have REALLY been loving Grave Robber and Swash in PVE with my Liars build. Dynamic Sway and Rangefinder was my first roll and it feels so fucking good.
I’ve got a demo rangefinder roll I use on a storm grenade build and it works so well. I love this thing
Same, it's so good
I got a high range one; hammer forged / high cal with rangefinder and tunnel vision and it feels so smooth and once i get that TV active, it def feels like an exotic
First week I got one with fullbore, ricochet, rangefinder, killing with with a range mw. I personally think it feels really good still, can't wait to hear your thoughts
I got an insane roll recently perpetual, killing wind, tunnel vision paired with range finder and kill clip. Only things I would change is to switch TV for dynamic sway, and get tap the trigger as a third perk in column 4.
I have two rolls I’m running, max range: fullbore ricochet range mw on both.
The pairings are -
PM/(rangefinder/KC/AJ)
second is what I run, as I saw you running @CoolGuy, with my hawkmoon has KW/Harmony.
I never used dbl primary b4 and woah did this combo make me so satisfied. This thing with radiant and harmony is just nuts and then killing wind to make it just making followups so good in situations let me set hawkmoon 1 taps comfortably.
Heating Up, Kill Clip is my go to. I loved a similar roll on the Splicer Pulse though thats multi kill clip. Just like you I am looking for a full range Killing Wind Kill Clip though so crossing my fingers!
My very first one was perpetual kill clip with ricochet and chambered compensator, range mw. It's one of the best smgs I've ever used.
I played against you in that wormhaven game and figured you were making a video like this
One thing to note is that Funnelweb can also get the Killing Wind/Rangefinder combo and has a higher base range with access to Accurized Rounds letting it push out as far as 22-23m depending on what barrel you go with, though on the other hand Out of Bounds may top off at around 20-21m ranges but it has more stability thanks to the Origin Trait and being able to have Ricochet Rounds
So now you get two different flavors of SMG depending on if you want more range (Funnelweb) or more stability (Out of Bounds) and of course also different elements if you're aiming for certain class synergies.
My first drop fit my play style almost perfectly. 4/5 roll for me
Smallbore / Polygonal
Armor Piercing / Light Mag
Demolitionist
Rangefinder
Reload MW ( want / need either range or handling MW )
Such a smooth 900 on console
I have KW and RF on mine. Took it into trials yesterday and it shredded. Got really lucky on mine because it also has hammer forge, light mag, and range mw.
Been using that sway and tap roll it’s a freaking laser beam it feels crazy good
I’ve used pretty much every roll of out of bounds this season, and I’ve also used plenty of god rolled funnel webs. If you want the range finder roll, you might as well go funnel web, you’ll feel the extra aim assist on those last few meters. I do think out of bounds has a place for your loudout if your running kill clip, or one of those melee or gernade builds with their respective perks. Of course a good range finder roll on it won’t be bad, funnel web just does it better. Out of bounds also feels a lot better than the IB smg to me, a lot of that is probably the origin trait.
My very first drop for Out of Bounds was Ricochet Rounds/Killing Wind/Rangefinder. I immediately Masterworked it and it's been my main Crucible energy weapon since.
Need that killing Wind and harmony roll to pair with my sniper
I have the killing wind rangefinder perk, gonna try this out tonight.
I've been using double harmony smg build and its a dream. Peacekeepers are so good.
The corkscrew, flared, killing wind, rangefinder roll I have was the best that dropped for me so far. It feels amazing.
I have a Killing wind range finder with smallbore, accurized, and a range masterwork, and I have never used an SMG that feels so clean. This thing is a monster
Woot! I made it into one of Cool Guy's videos. Doing what I do best in Iron Banner.....getting killed. Love your vids brother!
This thing is sooo good along with the pizzicato I’ve been trying to find good rolls for both
I find myself pleasantly surprised Bungie put this weapon out there. I have heating up/kill clip and this thing shreds. Perfect counter for SG rushers as long as you backpedal. Another great review.
I recently got a Killing Wind and Tap The Trigger OOB. It is amazing.
Dynamic / rangefinder is my roll and it’s nuts.
Didn’t think I’d get an smg for while that competes with my rangefinder Borrowed Time.
I got a roll with Dynamic Sway and Tap the Trigger. Considering I really like always on perk helpers, this actually is great. It still wobbles a bit, but man it's a laser. Still trying to a Rangefinder roll for the zoom.
I have 2 main rolls for both PvP and PvE. Full bore, ricochet, dynamic rangefinder with a range masterwork and a Demo junkie. Loving them to death and a perfect fit with Forerunner in PvP
My first roll was pm + kc playing on the arclock and it felt great 🙏
Absolutely love this thing in PvE with Demo/Golden Tricorn on arc hunter with combination blow. Almost always have that 50% bonus and free grenades
Grinding IB last week gave me a good selection of this gun. Was rocking KW+RF during matches and trying out PM+Harmony. Have to try out how HU+KC or KW+Swash and see how those feel. Overall the gun feels reeeeal good.
Many great combo's like you mentioned but one I want is pulse monitor, auto reload while weak and it resets the origin traight.
I have 3 rolls on this weapon that I use:
Perpetual motion + kill clip
Subsistence + adrenaline junkie
Dynamic sway reduction + tap the trigger
I love this weapon because it synergizes with arc 3.0 so well.
I really want a TTT, Dynamic Sway roll. I have that on a couple auto rifles and love them. Would love to try that combo on an SMG
pretty early i got killing wind and range finder and its been doing my good, the scope take some getting use to tho, similar to igneous hammers learning curve but nothing we cant learn, 10/10 smg
Honestly I want a max range killing wind kill clip roll. I already have an amazing funnelweb with rangefinder so I want to lean more into kill clip with Out of bounds. Plus I feel like this roll on a Titan with peacekeepers is gonna be amazing.
i got smallbore, hi cal, moving target rangefinder and range MW during Banner last week.
I have tried about 6 or 7 for multiple games. They all can hang. I even have a harmony one to pair with a harmony something new just for fun. I have about 7 roles I switch between. Now that I have reset my crucible rank twice (something I have not done in years) I might be able to trim it down with double perks.
I got a max range roll, Full Bore, Ricochet, DSR and Rangefinder with Range Masterwork BEFORE crucible reset and man I have not been able to put it down. I ran multimach into the ground and this thing feels very good rn
Got a perpetual motion/tap the trigger roll, shredding people left n right with it.
This thing feels like funnelweb and I've had a ton of fun rocking demo+adrenaline junkie on this thing for my arc build in pve and it shreds.
using a smallbore perpetual motion + harmony roll with a range masterwork currently and paired with a defiance of yasmin. still looking for a good kinetic shotty that feels right to also use with the smg
How do you feel this stands up to a Calus Mini tool crafted? Say, for instance, moving target and tap the trigger, with accurized, smallbore, on a range frame
I love this smg! Just wish it had under pressure in the 3rd slot. Guaranteed bonus stability on both halves of the mag with that perk plus it's origin trait, then TTT or KC? Oh baby
Full bore is usually a tough choice to make for me on most guns but on this one it's easily worth it. I was lucky enough to get a max range one with dynamic sway and rangefinder(before 2nd crucible reset, even!) and its been heavenly. Dynamic sway compliments the omolon origin so well and both of them together easily make up for the stability loss on full bore.
I haveone right now that has demo/tunnel vision and rangefinder that with my barrel and mag options gets range and stability in the 50s before any perks activate and I love it
I just got a Dynamic Sway/Kill Clip!! Let’s go💪🙏
Dynamic Sway and Tap the Trigger is pretty nutty
Ran my Arc Titan thru KF last night using this weapon with Tap the trigger/Demo. Cleared mobs with ease and Grenade was always up.
FYI - Hero’s Burden is an Adaptive 900, not a Lightweight. But even Killclip is difficult to justify using with 14 zoom and Rangefinder in the same column. I did give Gutshot a try since I thought it could be interesting with this kind of spray weapon, but the AA hit was extremely noticeable on controller.
I love that this SMG has it all. Sure it can be a pain to get the specific roll, but I can choose between the best possible neutral game OR an absolute monster of a snowballing gun with something like tunnel vision + kill clip. Good pve rolls too. They really nailed this one.
Edit: finishes the video and I had to mention I have a heating up + kill clip roll, and like you said, it truly shines.
When my top roll matches Cool Guy's recommended roll, I feel like the kid who knew all the answers in class.
I got 4 in a row with demo/rangefinder , 2 were after my crucible reset with no extra perks as of yet. I hope to get something decent relatively soon.
I got two god tier PvP rolls. Haven't tried them yet. But one is high cal/pm/RF, the other is dynamic/tap. Really excited for perpetual/rangefinder though
Thanks for the video glhf
dynamic sway and rangefinder is absolute s-tier. The consistency is amazing
I have moving target rangefinder and killing wing range finder, both are amazing
Using a demo/tricorn role I farmed out during iron banner quite alot in pve. Perpetual motion/killclip is my pvp roll.
I want that perpetual kill clip roll. But I got a KW/Range finder roll and hot damn does it feel good.
After playing enough IB to reset my rank, and running crucible prosperity the whole time, I have a whole vault page of these things. Thank God for Coolguy helping us hoarders find the diamonds in the rough.
At first I didn’t like it due to being onolon and I felt like I was spraying people and they didn’t die but then I got dynamic sway rangefinder and learned to control recoil on headshots and it can melt people. Once u get use to it it’s god tier and impressive. I have fun using this smg with a fusion rifle
The crucible drops have been FIRE lately, riptide and out of bounds have amazing rolls in pvp and pve, hell I'm using them both more in PVE than I am in PVP even!
I have a kill clip heating up that I use witk fullbore and rico rounds. It absolutely melts! I have so many!
Just got a Tap the Trigger/ Perpetual Motion im eager to use.