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  • čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
  • After almost 2,000 shotgun tests and 4 months of work, I've created the ULTIMATE shotgun guide for Destiny 2 PvP. This video explains literally every single spread shotgun mechanic in Destiny and provides some helpful tips for choosing the best shotgun perks, barrels, mods and shotgun god rolls in general. There's a tier list, too, I guess-if that's your thing.
    If you like what I'm doing, the best way to support me is through Patreon: / gjerda
    You can follow me on Twitter here: / thegjerda
    I don't stream on Twitch: / gjerda
    0:00 THE ULTIMATE SHOTGUN GUIDE
    1:28 Shotgun Testing Methodology
    5:00 Shotgun Archetypes and Taxonomy
    7:12 Shotgun Handling Guide
    11:54 Shotgun Pellet Mechanics
    18:08 Stability on Shotguns
    19:09 Shotgun Range Mechanics
    28:33 Shotgun Tierlist
    32:06 Shotgun Mods and Barrels
    39:44 Shotgun God Rolls
    44:34 FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS
    Here's a link to the playlist of Destiny 2 Science so you can follow it and stay up to date: • Destiny 2 Science
    RESOURCES
    The Destiny handling calculator spreadsheet: / ever_wondered_how_hand...
    CREDITS
    ‪@CastleContent‬ for incredible advice and proofing the entire thing!
    The following folks for testing for hours!
    St_3141
    Ferwy
    Ozio
    Asian
    Wiz
    AnotherDuck
    ~
    You can join my community discord if you're nice: / discord
    #shotguns #destiny2pvp #destiny2
    The Destiny 2 Shotgun Guide and Tierlist - Everything You Need to Know
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Komentáře • 1K

  • @cammycakesgaming
    @cammycakesgaming Před 2 lety +1987

    the heros the community needed

    • @Gjerda
      @Gjerda  Před 2 lety +130

      Thank you! 🙏

    • @barrett7543
      @barrett7543 Před 2 lety +11

      Pls upload today cam I need more content 😬

    • @ythom6163
      @ythom6163 Před 2 lety +6

      @@barrett7543 ask and you shall recieve (he did)

    • @KinesisXBL
      @KinesisXBL Před 2 lety

      CZcams unsubbed me from your channel. I don’t understand y

    • @rat1835
      @rat1835 Před 2 lety +3

      U forgor the E in heroes

  • @spiralshadow
    @spiralshadow Před 2 lety +597

    as soon as I saw the words "Binomial Probability Distribution" and "Clopper-Pearson Exact Method" i knew this was about to be the best video i've ever seen

  • @MarketingBusinessEconomics
    @MarketingBusinessEconomics Před 2 lety +284

    I have taught stats for years. This is a video that I will recommend my students when I talk about binomial models. Your explanation is on target and the video is fun and informative. My students need to see that what we teach is actually useful (and can be fun!). Thanks for all the hard work. It shows!

    • @KAIOKENX99
      @KAIOKENX99 Před 2 lety +7

      I like this ^^

    • @inazuma8606
      @inazuma8606 Před 2 lety +8

      W teacher

    • @brooks.
      @brooks. Před 2 lety +4

      best teacher

    • @Gjerda
      @Gjerda  Před 2 lety +28

      thank you so much, we're honored! I remember stats classes in highschool and college, loved them. thanks for the work you do

  • @thepalindrome2193
    @thepalindrome2193 Před 2 lety +185

    As a mathematician and a long-time shotgun player, I conjecture that this is the best Destiny 2 video ever. Period.

    • @Gjerda
      @Gjerda  Před 2 lety +13

      Thanks!

    • @antimatics759
      @antimatics759 Před 2 lety +5

      As a long time destiny player and a maths student at uni, I love this vid

    • @dakotaj4150
      @dakotaj4150 Před 2 lety

      I had to find the math comment for my reply lol, don't you need 384 test to achieve a 95% confidence level 😂

    • @thepalindrome2193
      @thepalindrome2193 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dakotaj4150 The confidence level doesn't depend on the number of tests, it is a parameter that is selected to be 0.95 in this example. You can construct the 95% confidence Clopper-Pearson interval for any number of measurements, but they'll be useless if the sample size is small.

  • @logans224
    @logans224 Před 2 lety +328

    Bro. I don’t normally do this but I just have to spread the positivity. You’re quickly becoming my favorite destiny CZcamsr. Ever since I watched and recommended your “why I deleted everything in my vault” I just can’t get over how good your content is. You can tell you value quality vids over quantity. You deserve all the success coming your way.

    • @Gjerda
      @Gjerda  Před 2 lety +20

      Dang thank you so much

    • @woop4293
      @woop4293 Před 2 lety +2

      i second this :D

    • @logans224
      @logans224 Před 2 lety +1

      No prob I hope I run into you in trials ;)

    • @sunrize244
      @sunrize244 Před 2 lety +2

      NO WAY IS THAT THE REAL LOGAN S

    • @logans224
      @logans224 Před 2 lety +1

      Lmao stop exposing me I like being discreet

  • @austinbelch1506
    @austinbelch1506 Před 2 lety +86

    Man, hearing “stop using full choke on shotguns” feels like I just lost an old friend. Tough to swallow but nice to hear that I can spec more into handling and stop worrying so so much about maxing out the range bar. What an excellent video, I’m going to have to rewatch to pickup everything but that won’t be an issue with how well presented and organized this video is. Been an absolute treat to watch

    • @VampiresAreRealGuys
      @VampiresAreRealGuys Před 2 lety +9

      yeah im still gonna use full choke

    • @nicholaspaat7302
      @nicholaspaat7302 Před 2 lety +6

      Just remember that stats still operate in a vacuum with 0 confounding. On paper full choke does nothing... but when you account for latency, tick rates, engine constraints, and the rng compounding on top of that... yea full choke can still matter.

  • @Gjerda
    @Gjerda  Před 2 lety +245

    Comment tracking updates; updated 6/9/22:
    -> Follow the Destiny science playlist: czcams.com/play/PLZibcKNWdYxLrn8pPXjP7rWZ36RmZ7bTU.html
    -> 10:47 100 handling + threat detector would be even faster than 26 frames! Should be closer to 21.
    -> Shoutout to FalloutPlays for braving the shotgun wilderness first. I sympathize with his pain.
    -> on April 21 Bungie announced a TWAB with some shotgun updates coming in the future. Fortunately, the changes don’t affect this video that much! All of the findings here remain accurate and useful, but a new video may be coming eventually regarding icarus on shotguns. Also, full choke and smoothbore remain poor choices. Besides that, you can continue to rely on this video for shotgun mechanics.
    -> Well, a new season with the airborne changes are here, and that made spread shotguns even less reliable in air! Icarus is probably a great choice now. But you do you. As for range, you need about 10-20 more range this season to make up for the range nerf. More and more, it seems like getting cleanup kills is the way to go for spread shotguns.

    • @life-destiny1196
      @life-destiny1196 Před 2 lety +4

      47:30 the most important part of the video saved for last I see :P

    • @ethandeis7427
      @ethandeis7427 Před 2 lety

      Would you say adept handling or quick access helps frames more?

    • @Cat_taC_Cat7
      @Cat_taC_Cat7 Před 2 lety +2

      What about lord of wolves?

    • @joshuaramirez9088
      @joshuaramirez9088 Před 2 lety

      Thanks for making this video and also linking Ivan, I love channels that break down destiny stats and numbers so this is a treat

    • @d3po607
      @d3po607 Před 2 lety +1

      37:15 I think you need to also answer what mod is best for those who want the fastest possible ads while the shotgun is already out, as shotgun apes like me don't usually have to quick swap to my shotgun as its 90% of the time already out,

  • @kscotth
    @kscotth Před 2 lety +31

    Thank you Gjerda, Ivan, and anyone else who contributed to the making of this. Congrats on an epic production and the success it's about to bring to this channel. Well deserved.

  • @AnbuYdg
    @AnbuYdg Před 2 lety +10

    The amount of information in here is nuts! Super interesting to see how pellets work/function on a deeper level

  • @TheRealHippo-
    @TheRealHippo- Před 2 lety +15

    I absolutely love how you included binomials and confidence intervals in this video, really set it apart in terms of validity in comparison to other shotgun videos

  • @IronworkerGaming
    @IronworkerGaming Před 2 lety +17

    Absolutely amazing work!! The information gather here and the time committed to produce this video deservers a standing ovation! 👍🍻

  • @fakeyhero
    @fakeyhero Před 2 lety +37

    Been waiting for this heat! Love the work and effort. Enjoy that earned break king

  • @Redacted_762
    @Redacted_762 Před 2 lety +13

    This makes other content creators who make click baity videos with no substance look even worse than they already do. Truly doing the Lord's work again and again. Real content for actual human beings. Yall respect the community, our time, and the game. Thank you for another weapon science video. Absolutely incredible.

  • @camintg4673
    @camintg4673 Před 2 lety +7

    This video is amazing however I was hoping you would cover slide shot more considering the slide nerf and how well it is to counteract it, if at all? But what you are doing is amazing for the community and we all are very thankful for what you guys have put together, it’s a lot of hard work!

  • @NmEtwo
    @NmEtwo Před 2 lety +1

    Incredible video, some insane levels of production and research shown here. Hope you have a great break and thank you for putting in the time to make this happen!

  • @NateFigs
    @NateFigs Před 2 lety +2

    One of the best channels I've ever seen in 10+ years of watching gaming channels releases one of their best videos yet. Great job as usual and hope you enjoy your break :)

  • @ItsCreepin
    @ItsCreepin Před 2 lety +4

    Never thought after so many hours playing D2 that I'd watch a 47 minute video on shotguns. I'm shocked that I'm now going to opt for something other than full choke. Great video bro, enjoy your break bro.

  • @Minhyung0424
    @Minhyung0424 Před 2 lety +7

    Man, you are so criminally underrated and deserve way more subs for all the efforts you put into these scientific breakdowns and analysis. Thank you so much for your PvP scholarship.

  • @mazokumo
    @mazokumo Před 2 lety +1

    This is my favorite Destiny 2 video of all time, the clarity of the information and presentation has been super educational for me!

  • @somefishhere
    @somefishhere Před 2 lety

    The little confetti with the clap. And having it go over the text. Excited to watch! Been anticipating the drop
    Great style of transitions

  • @dylr7883
    @dylr7883 Před 2 lety +3

    Heads up, weird things start to happen when you stack past 100 handling. It sometimes causes it to bug out and actually end up slower, depending on what else you’re swapping to. Very noticeable when swapping to a sword with eager edge.

  • @zeromythosver.
    @zeromythosver. Před 2 lety +14

    Really happy this is out, I’ve always primarily shotgunned as my special weapon of choice, and all the changes-alongside my general playing less because of how rough a ride 3.0 seems like it’ll be-mean I’m all ears to a vid like this
    Just on the lookout for tweaks to adjust my play since it feels like one misstep with pellets anymore and you either die to a fusion or slug, or suffer a pellet spread so wide and random it looks like a sneeze and couldn’t deal more than 1/3 HP if it tried
    imo I feel like the slide change was a miss now that they all have a way more punishing and universally similar range ceiling anyway
    They’re more limited to a specific rather short range band, but if I slide to get myself within that narrow range, I get screwed for it? These changes were a one-or-the-other thing in my eyes, and I think the universal range ceiling lowering was the winning pick.

  • @DefactoOverlord
    @DefactoOverlord Před 2 lety

    Amazing work guys! Between you and Castle, the most informative D2 content around.

  • @scottb91007
    @scottb91007 Před 2 lety

    Please excuse me nerding out. I think this is instantly an all time great Destiny CZcams vid. As someone who’s currently taking economics in Uni, dealing with this short of thing can get mind numbing after a while, but dude this was entertaining and extremely informative through and through. You went above and beyond to source everything, and I’m sure you spent an unimaginable amount of time to put this all together. Hats off to you man! I’ll be sharing this w everyone in my clan and although this is the first video of yours I’ve watched I’ll definitely be subscribing for future content!

  • @NobleBok
    @NobleBok Před 2 lety +27

    Some things I missed in this video I would have liked answered;
    - By how much does Smoothbore widen the pellet spread? Is it just as little as Full Choke tightens it, therefore still making it a barrel to consider?
    - Freehand grip is tossed up as ‘minimal upsides, not worth it.’ What does Hip Fire Grip do in-depth though?
    - Is Slideshot a viable trait to ‘combat’ the slide nerf and is the range increase noticable?
    - Is ‘Firmly Planted’ a viable trait to combat the slide nerf?
    - Is the Adept Handeling mod better then Quick Access Sling?

    • @JustEchoes
      @JustEchoes Před 2 lety +1

      I can only answer 1 thing, slideshot wouldn't do anything bc while sliding you nerf your pellet spread so the only thing that would help would be fullchoke (if any, this wasn't tested so it could be nothing)

    • @kawaii_kraken
      @kawaii_kraken Před 2 lety

      if you slide youre probably barrels stuffing the opponent anyway so it doesnt matter

    • @NobleBok
      @NobleBok Před 2 lety +3

      @@kawaii_kraken it definitely, DEFINITELY does matter. It happens very frequent that you will close the gap on an enemy with your shotgun by sliding, and your shotgun is within OHK range but it doesn’t kill due to the slide nerf (pellets missing where they would normally not bc of wider pellet spread during sliding)

    • @kawaii_kraken
      @kawaii_kraken Před 2 lety

      @@NobleBok maybe im just a based slug user but other then normal ohk i didnt notice the difference with nerfs

    • @randallbrooks7708
      @randallbrooks7708 Před 2 lety +1

      What is the BEST barrel for each shotgun archetype

  • @jonasz294
    @jonasz294 Před 2 lety +59

    holy shit this is amazing, i swear to god you along with cammy are the best d2 content creators on the platform without a singular doubt. cammy for his incredible imagination and commentary when it comes to builds, and you for the incredible work you put into every video and also insight into why we d2 players play the game. tysm for ur videos gjerda
    ps. ran into u in game on ur titan a while back, i think u might’ve been trolling with new light gear

    • @Gjerda
      @Gjerda  Před 2 lety +5

      Thank you so much! And yes I probably was haha, sometimes I love using garbage

  • @Legoleflash
    @Legoleflash Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing video. Seriously. Props on all this work, SO much work. I ate it all, and am combing through my vault to see what I got now 😅

  • @Pugilation
    @Pugilation Před 2 lety

    Absolute banger of a video, thorough, comprehendible and with actionable information. Excellent work folks!

  • @BeansBroBeans
    @BeansBroBeans Před 2 lety +3

    This is too well made for you to only have 18k subscribers

  • @seltersaar3512
    @seltersaar3512 Před 2 lety +3

    Lol, you guys just got mentioned in the TWAB.

  • @famdomeyt5667
    @famdomeyt5667 Před 2 lety

    One of the best D2 videos about ingame mechanics and numbers (oh my gooood, NUMBERS 🤤) ever seen. Happy you can finally take your brake 👍🏼😃

  • @jeffmuller1489
    @jeffmuller1489 Před 2 lety

    So much detail and data, you guys did a great job! Thank you!

  • @xOneShotOneKillx1
    @xOneShotOneKillx1 Před 2 lety +65

    Do you have any thoughts on the effect full choke would have on reducing the shotgun spread penalty while sliding?

    • @imperialphoenix1229
      @imperialphoenix1229 Před 2 lety +8

      @IvanFKaramazov - D2 slide into the same corner every time?
      Idk bro, sounds like a pain to figure out

    • @monaarch5608
      @monaarch5608 Před 2 lety +9

      @IvanFKaramazov - D2 would probably have to set up a macro to slide and shoot at the same distance consistently, maybe use a corner to line yourself up for the tests.

    • @xOneShotOneKillx1
      @xOneShotOneKillx1 Před 2 lety +3

      @IvanFKaramazov - D2 I’m in agreement with everyone else who replied. Sounds like a tough thing to test consistently to have the same degree of confidence in the results as the methods you guys used for this video. I don’t recall whether Bungie has said the magnitude of the effect full choke has on pellet spread, if they did we could extrapolate a bit.

    • @nelsongodoy5101
      @nelsongodoy5101 Před 2 lety

      Full choke is actually working against the slide spread penalty but not anywhere near countering it. Like gjerda says here, just take your shots standing if you can, it's way more consistent

    • @xOneShotOneKillx1
      @xOneShotOneKillx1 Před 2 lety +2

      @@nelsongodoy5101 well yes that’s what we already know. The question is how much? Is it enough to be noticeable? Being able to slide and have some decent consistency with your shotgun is something people might want to have as an option.

  • @daveadams6489
    @daveadams6489 Před 2 lety +6

    This is fantastic, have passed on to my clan.
    Makes 6 months chasing a Full Choke Fractethyst feel really pointless lol

    • @TheDeadlyefx
      @TheDeadlyefx Před 2 lety

      Same. Feels bad 😖
      At the same time it’s somewhat of a relief since I never got it 😏

    • @daveadams6489
      @daveadams6489 Před 2 lety

      @@TheDeadlyefx I got it after completing my final activity of SOTL, on the final day. Absolutely stupid lol. Glad we have crafting now to have resilience against that kind of bad luck

    • @TheDeadlyefx
      @TheDeadlyefx Před 2 lety

      @@daveadams6489 wow. Every time I shuffle past the (full choke-less) roll I kept in my vault, I get that pang of unrequited love, of a chase I just never could complete....six months! ....COUNTLESS umbrals....so I get it bro.
      But at least you got that feeling of triumph! And in the last day no less!
      It may feel pointless...THAT I ALSO GET....but at least you had that triumphant moment of pure joy and relief. Hang on to that.

  • @yotarohoier
    @yotarohoier Před 2 lety +1

    Love those in depth style of reviews!

  • @jaumpm
    @jaumpm Před 2 lety

    This is really S tier content. It took me time to go through it, but omg how worth was it!
    Amazing how you and folks managed to put this altogether. Congrats and hat off!

  • @RIPGLE
    @RIPGLE Před 2 lety +1

    I HAVE BEEN WAITING ALL WEEK FOR THIS VIDEO 💜💜💜🙌 EXCITED TO WATCH IT. Thank you so much for putting the time into this!

  • @o0linx0o
    @o0linx0o Před 2 lety +19

    it would suck if Bungie announced some big changes to shotguns in the upcoming Thursday's TWAB :) (which BTW is apparently massive and focused on weapon sandbox changes)

    • @NemesistheBoss
      @NemesistheBoss Před 2 lety

      waiting for this.. for the ultimate weapon crafting not to waste my meterials and vault cleaning

  • @arkadia3288
    @arkadia3288 Před 2 lety

    Just wanted to say I love how you backed everything up with math and showed the results. I am a bit of a nerd myself and this video was so satisfying to watch I didn’t even notice it was 47 minutes. So much better then watching just a tier list being made. Keep this up. I’m looking forward to seeing more of these kind of videos from you.

  • @O8E5
    @O8E5 Před 2 lety

    This is actually the best destiny video I've seen so far. Amazing work and much love for all the efforts.

  • @SenatorStink
    @SenatorStink Před 2 lety +4

    This video made me feel like a real caveman, I've been running a big range ragnhild with full choke this entire expansion and all this video did was make me realise I've been shotguning in the destiny stone age. I even removed Icarus for the first time. I am a changed guardian!

  • @EatingThread
    @EatingThread Před 2 lety +2

    Most underrated content creator

  • @liamhyland3939
    @liamhyland3939 Před 2 lety

    I love your in-depth mathematical breakdowns in the videos, please keep up the amazing work!!!

  • @LukeSirMeister
    @LukeSirMeister Před rokem +1

    Fantastic video. Best Shotgun breakdown I've seen.

  • @jingweiwong
    @jingweiwong Před 2 lety +14

    47 minutes and 41 seconds to say "use a slug".
    In all seriousness tho, this is the ultimate S-tier shotgun video.
    Thanks for all the hard work.
    You guys are legend

    • @Kan041185
      @Kan041185 Před 2 lety +2

      ++ after this video I understood that slugs was right choice for me. The only consistent usage of shotgun I have when play warlock with orphidians to have gauranted melee finish

    • @binghalim1852
      @binghalim1852 Před 2 lety +1

      My first in last out in my vault
      "My time to shine!"

    • @tmenke88
      @tmenke88 Před 2 lety

      Sojourners w/threat detector FTW

  • @zachstinnett5475
    @zachstinnett5475 Před 2 lety +4

    Thanks for the vids! You're the human version of low-fi beats for Destiny.

  • @Lindyhorsey
    @Lindyhorsey Před 2 lety

    Amazing video, thank you for putting all of this together! Cant wait for all of your future videos

  • @khronos3132
    @khronos3132 Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much for the hard work on this topic! This is everything I could have wanted from a shotgun breakdown video.

  • @FerpiliciousProducts
    @FerpiliciousProducts Před 2 lety +3

    It was so hard to break the sliding habit on shottys. I still like the perk for the reloading portion but it's noticeable how much worse it is when trying to 1HKO.

    • @BretMFNTaylor
      @BretMFNTaylor Před 2 lety

      Yeah there have been so many times I slide out and my shotgun blows them a kiss instead of killing them.

  • @nl6764
    @nl6764 Před 2 lety +6

    They mentioned this video in the twab 💀

  • @Dyatin
    @Dyatin Před 2 lety

    Thanks. I've never gotten on with Shotguns, but from what I've learnt with fusions, getting the right gun makes a lot of difference.
    Cheers to you both x

  • @kas1967
    @kas1967 Před 2 lety

    this was an enthralling experience, wonderful work on display here

  • @NatiTheCutie
    @NatiTheCutie Před 2 lety +24

    I have a few questions
    1. does hipfire grip's accuracy boost only effect the center pellet or all of them?
    2. how big is the accuracy cones per archetype? you specify they have different sizes but do you know the exact sizes?
    3. how big exactly is the aim assist cone? you say the numbers but how exactly would someone visualize that?
    some of these might have been mentioned in the video and flew over my head, sorry for that if so.

    • @wumbology72
      @wumbology72 Před 2 lety +3

      I also want to know about hip fire. i quite like it on my riiswalker but i do not own a non hipfire equivalent to see if its placebo. based on the aim assist cone range i suspect it really does next to nothing. However, hipfire does boost stability by 30 and according to this video it seems like it makes follow up shots wayy more consistent, effectively counteracting the negative stability from iron reach

    • @nelsongodoy5101
      @nelsongodoy5101 Před 2 lety +2

      1. Only the central pellet is affected by accuracy, all the others are generated around the location of the first.
      2. Genuinely, no one knows exactly how big the cones are, though you can get an idea based on the accuracy stat.
      3. Refer to 2. It's likely in degrees somewhere, but the gist is that you want more accuracy on any other weapon class other than spread shottys. They have high inherent accuracy, and little deviation, so it's not worth building towards it

    • @MarkJolley
      @MarkJolley Před 2 lety

      THey follow the center pellet so it seems like it would, but he stated not much.

    • @Gjerda
      @Gjerda  Před 2 lety +2

      1. just center pellet
      2. we don't but hope to have a better guess one day! great question.
      3. it's a small cone in 3d space that shrinks and grows, and hard to visualize without animating, which is why I'm considering hiring someone to animate such a thing.
      4. thanks for watching :)

  • @TheBigSleazy
    @TheBigSleazy Před 2 lety +10

    I watched your and Patty’s pellet shotgun tier list where it seemed like you guys were in agreement about full choke being the best barrel option above all others. Did the additional testing disprove this?

    • @Gjerda
      @Gjerda  Před 2 lety +4

      yeah, sorry for the confusion, Patty and I recorded that *before* Ivan and I discovered the full choke findings! I think full choke is not the play these days, but on thursdays twab or a future update, I'm guessing they''ll make it matter again.

    • @TheBigSleazy
      @TheBigSleazy Před 2 lety

      @@Gjerda appreciate the reply…I kind of figured that’s what happened. I mean who wouldn’t want a tighter pellet spread lol

    • @Moobeus
      @Moobeus Před 2 lety +1

      @@Gjerda what about within one hit kill distance? Wouldn’t fullchoke still help you land more pellets, especially on shots when you are slightly off target?

    • @unamaka109
      @unamaka109 Před 2 lety

      @@Moobeus that's my question, too. Does full choke still help within 7m

    • @oldaccount9825
      @oldaccount9825 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Gjerda they weren't ever gonna make full choke better even if it's shit, they will always go by usage rates

  • @honsu920
    @honsu920 Před 2 lety

    Great video, man! Huge amount of information, examples and math. The presentation is clear and up to the point. Huge effort! Thanks a lot!

  • @Jamesssssssssssssss
    @Jamesssssssssssssss Před 2 lety

    ITS HERE!
    Thank you soooo much, been hyped to see this.

  • @plonk510
    @plonk510 Před 2 lety +4

    FINALLLYYYY

  • @Lullefication
    @Lullefication Před 2 lety +5

    A question about lightweights: Have you tested them with and without full choke too? I only see precision and aggressive in the video. I want to know if it's not important on them either, since people often have said that full choke is extra important on lightweights!

    • @91mattmac
      @91mattmac Před 2 lety +1

      I’m pretty sure he touched on this, think he said that because lightweight shotguns already have the tightest spread of pellet shotguns, full choke is pointless. I’m no math wizard but I definitely go back to my old CQC shot gun as it feels more consistent than the full choke roll xur was giving out.

    • @Lullefication
      @Lullefication Před 2 lety

      @@91mattmac alright, I missed that part! Thanks. It would still be nice to see some testning data though!

  • @jonniesaur
    @jonniesaur Před 2 lety

    Dude, now this is amazing!!!!! I love this deep diving nerdy stuff! Would love to see a hand cannon or honestly anything else like this vid!

  • @sorvan7695
    @sorvan7695 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for making such an amazing video and researching this so thoroughly. Not only that but you explained everything in a very easy and digestible way. Phenomenal work. Keep making awesome content!

  • @darkhelmet12e47
    @darkhelmet12e47 Před 2 lety +7

    I feel like I have noticed some major inconsistencies without icarus grip and since I spend most of the time with a shotgun in the air I am really not sure if I should be using it or not.

    • @MikeYt673
      @MikeYt673 Před 2 lety +3

      I've used shottys with and without Icarus
      It makes a big difference in concistency as far as i've noticed
      So i went back to running it

    • @destroreact5706
      @destroreact5706 Před 2 lety

      I guess this is related to accuracy and its interaction with aim assist, as described in the video. With icarus, the accuracy in air is boosted, and because of higher accuracy, the center pellet is more likely to be aim-assisted and thus all pellets are pulled toward center of target's body.
      Which makes icarus more consistent

    • @BretMFNTaylor
      @BretMFNTaylor Před 2 lety +1

      It helps but not that much you may want to use it on a shotgun with base high handling like a lightweight but no for a found verdict there are just better options

  • @MyNameIsZelo
    @MyNameIsZelo Před 2 lety +7

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    • @brattysubenthusiast
      @brattysubenthusiast Před 2 lety

      we look down upon your church of Heritage,we are the Blasphemers of your deity.

  • @jamalsdurag599
    @jamalsdurag599 Před 2 lety +1

    amazing vid, was super confused when getting back into witch queen after a years break of destiny about what shotgun i should use and this video clarified everything.

  • @1controllerno
    @1controllerno Před 2 lety +1

    respect the hustle with this video. methodology, research and explanations are incredible. thorough and pure objective views. not much of a shotgun guy myself but felt this was necessary viewing nonetheless.

  • @lZacox
    @lZacox Před 2 lety +3

    I will never use a lightweight without full choke, it is not placebo these things feel way worse without it

    • @Knightlight3449
      @Knightlight3449 Před 2 lety

      It's not. Full choke is still a great barrel for consistency. The 7 meter test is to far to test lightweight shotguns.

    • @nelsongodoy5101
      @nelsongodoy5101 Před 2 lety

      And to counter that guy, minimum spread distribution will either make it useless past a certain point, or make it useless closer than a certain point and that the area where it's making a difference is so small that just having the statistical benefits of the other barrels will make more difference in more fights.

  • @milesmorkri
    @milesmorkri Před 2 lety +10

    i have been on the run with my sons for over 7 months now. we have been operating under false identities, paying with cash, and finding food in the rivers. we have stopped at this no-tell motel to watch your video, "THE SHOTGUN GUIDE (Destiny 2)", and it has been so illuminating! i speak for myself and my sons when i say that this will change how we play the game going forward!
    we're meeting up with the Lycan Priest (found via Yelp) tonight. it's said that they are able to alter our physical features which should allow us to start a new life. i'm not sure what this entails, but i am hopeful nonetheless.
    oh shoot i forgot to tell my husband about all of this. Gargantua (my husband), if you're seeing this, i hope you understand. love you, sweet thing.
    great video as always, Gjerda!

  • @HybRidChrome
    @HybRidChrome Před 2 lety

    Watched the whole thing, loved the statistics and tests

  • @el_rooneyo
    @el_rooneyo Před 2 lety

    Amazing video - thank you both for the hard work that went into making it!

  • @thenovastargamingchannel
    @thenovastargamingchannel Před 2 lety +2

    This is the FIRST ever video I have ever liked cause the W U R K you and Ivan have put into it. GG you fucking kings

  • @Hynra
    @Hynra Před 2 lety +3

    Every time you fast forward you're skipping a day worth of research.

  • @SynchroFPS
    @SynchroFPS Před 2 lety +1

    AW YEEAH, you know i've been waiting for this vid since the first slug vid you made. LETS GO.

  • @Lullefication
    @Lullefication Před 2 lety

    This is the video I have been waiting for! If one could wish, it would be nice to get more data on the lightweights too. :)

  • @zedpancake1319
    @zedpancake1319 Před 2 lety +4

    this dude is crying about the twab today

  • @inirvash
    @inirvash Před 2 lety

    this.... this is what i've been looking for in the D2 YT content that i've been missing, i've always liked to see these behind the scenes numbers, but i don't think i've seen much in the D2 contents i've seen. starting from MHW where i really like to calculate damage numbers, and now in D2 i finally get to know these stuffs, as cammycakes said, "the heros the community needed", i know these types of videos take so much time to create (and that's understating it), but i hope you will make more of these type of content Gjerda, big props, respect, and appreciation !!

  • @CaptainOhWow95
    @CaptainOhWow95 Před 2 lety +1

    THANK YOU, this is absolutely brilliant 🙌🏾

  • @vonripper5367
    @vonripper5367 Před 2 lety

    Probably the best D2 analysis video I’ve ever seen. Hats off to you and Ivan and anybody that contributed. I’ll stick around for sure 😬👌

  • @esme011
    @esme011 Před 2 lety

    Amazing amount of information and the great editing still keeps it entertaining (MATH tm). Thank you for your dedication to the craft

  • @ighoztie1921
    @ighoztie1921 Před 2 lety

    Very nice and informative video, keep up the good work !

  • @SeanStaxxMusic
    @SeanStaxxMusic Před 2 lety

    The sheer effort and detail put into this video is absurdly impressive! Thank you sirs 🙏🔥

  • @Calebjw1
    @Calebjw1 Před 2 lety

    Honestly I haven’t been watching you for that long gjerda, I started watching with the deleting my vault video and I love your content your vibe is so chill and makes for some great videos keep up the good work man
    Love this style of informative videos

  • @ManLikeMatts
    @ManLikeMatts Před 2 lety

    Fantastic and comprehensive video here ! excellent ! very informative and helpful

  • @Mystery_Meat
    @Mystery_Meat Před 2 lety

    Your videos really get me in the groove, the pacing and presentation are amazing! Thank you for this content!

  • @itztizzle
    @itztizzle Před 2 lety

    Incredible video! Props to you guys for all your hard work! Amazing!

  • @heythereshoe
    @heythereshoe Před 2 lety +1

    babe wake up new gjerda video (also love the video!!) Also I want to add, I absolutely loved that you used statistical analysis to help in your testing. Incredibly impressive!!

  • @Denik08
    @Denik08 Před 2 lety

    Wish I could like this 2x. Great work! Also, thanks for mentioning Duality as I have literally just yesterday dusted it off and got the catalyst unlocked for it.

  • @LogicalCentrist
    @LogicalCentrist Před 2 lety

    You my friend earned my subscription. I love the analysis

  • @spyrie_
    @spyrie_ Před 2 lety

    Holy crap. I took SO many notes. You took so much time and did this up right. You guys are legends in the truest sense, and I appreciate the hell out of you.

  • @gios2211
    @gios2211 Před 2 lety

    This video is great! I love videos like this. The explanation was perfect, it was so easy to understand! ❤️

  • @zgalahad
    @zgalahad Před 2 lety

    What a great video. Super informative and helps change up some stuff for building shotguns and my playstyle too!

  • @jacopo7514
    @jacopo7514 Před 2 lety

    I just watched the whole video to the end and then rewatched it again from the beginning. The amount of work you put into this is… out of the charts. The fact that full choke is not worth is really a game changer, it brings down facts instead of common believes. Thank you for what you did man, it’s just amazing. More of these videos!
    ps: I would love to be a sniper main but shotguns are just so much more better on more situations so yeah…

  • @thevengefulhand2032
    @thevengefulhand2032 Před 2 lety

    I can't undermine how much I love this channel ATM, yet again, a phenomenal video 🙏

  • @shanebaxter5038
    @shanebaxter5038 Před 2 lety

    Incredible. This is fast becoming my favourite D2 channel

  • @jannislaschitz7365
    @jannislaschitz7365 Před 2 lety

    Bruh, love your videos and your chill vibe. Keep up the amazing work king

    • @Gjerda
      @Gjerda  Před 2 lety

      Thank you very much

  • @Lady_Omni
    @Lady_Omni Před 2 lety

    I wasn't even 10 minutes deep before subscribing and hitting the bell. Great work.

  • @BranoZero
    @BranoZero Před 2 lety

    One of the best Destiny vids I’ve seen in a while. Didn’t expect to sit through the whole thing but here I am 😂

  • @matthewcody.
    @matthewcody. Před 2 lety

    This is a fantastic video, loved watching every minute. It really is appreciated how much work and care went into making this. Hope you receive tons of attention from the community, it’s much deserved. 👍🏼

  • @SamuelMindel
    @SamuelMindel Před 2 lety

    Thank you for compiling all this info. Super helpful

  • @Sventhir
    @Sventhir Před 2 lety

    Absolutely incredible video. Thank you all for all the work that went into this!

    • @leeb3726
      @leeb3726 Před 2 lety

      Haha I liked what you said at the end of the video

  • @cursedtfk
    @cursedtfk Před 2 lety

    This video was amazing and I enjoyed every minute of it. Being the main person in my clan that people come to for weapon rolls, I will be sharing this with my clan mates and friends that are playing pvp. Thanks for the awesome video mate!

  • @avasttt
    @avasttt Před 2 lety

    Gjerda great content as always, always put so much effort into your videos and it makes them a great watch