What Happened to the Founder of Hermitcraft? - The Story of GenerikB
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- Hermitcraft was founded in April 2012 by a Minecrafter named GenerikB. But what happened to him, and why did he leave the server for good?
Join me as we dive into the story of GenerikB.
And of course, remember to subscribe.
00:00 - Intro
00:27 - Background
01:13 - Early CZcams
02:01 - CZcams Community
02:33 - First Survival Lets Play
03:15 - Redstone Wars
03:53 - Hermitcraft Begins
05:34 - GenerikB Leaves Hermitcraft
06:33 - MindCrack
06:49 - The B Team Origins
07:54 - 2014 & 2015
09:02 - Attack of the B Team
09:51 - 2016 & HC Popularity
10:12 - Request to re-join Hermitcraft
11:54 - Is he gone for good?
12:34 - Conclusion
Music:
Scott Buckley - Artemis
Scott Buckley - Signal to Noise
Scott Buckley - Castles in the Sky
Scott Buckley - Within our Nature
Scott Buckley - Reverie
Kevin Macleod - Cipher - Hry
Thank you so much for watching! Love to hear your thoughts in the comments below! Mumbo Jumbo Video: czcams.com/video/QhEODrG4UBI/video.html
Thank you!
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Oh no
He is currently doing live streams on his channel
What do u expect from minecraft community and company as a whole, they rejected their original founder, Notch just cos he was "problematic" to the young woke audience maybe generik was too.
I've always been a fan of Genny B, but honestly, if it wasn't for Xisuma there would be no Hermitcraft server today. X was the backbone of Season 1, and if not for him the server would have never seen a Season 2.
What did Shashwammy do?
@@vojtechkorhon4159 if I remember right he took a leadership and backend maintenance roll.
@@martinc7561 thank you
@@vojtechkorhon4159 X talked about some of this in one of his videos from like 2 years ago on his second channel when he was talking about personal growth and how he grew and changed with what he did during that time.
Fr from what ive heard, generikb may have started the server but i feel xisuma did an insane job keeping it alive and making it one of the biggest servers today
disappointing when the comment section has most of the facts..
Fr
Based on this and the additional context from the comments it sounds like he decided to burn every single bridge in the youtube minecraft community
I feel like it’s relatively important to mention that the timing of HC and MC (MindCrack) was.. convenient. Hermitcraft was the small server and MindCrack was huge. GenerikB didn’t get bored of vanilla because he continued on MindCrack. He just didn’t want to do two vanilla SMPs at the same time. And chose the more popular one to stick with. Then MC died and he slowly stopped playing minecraft. His views had already gone down quite a bit and at HermitCraft’s peak growth at the time he asked to rejoin.
Its easy to presume many thought he just saw the dollar signs and felt he wasn’t as passionate about the server as much as he was about the attention.
Not saying this was the reason, but the optics aren’t on his side. I was a huge fan of him and even did some small things for him and bdubs back in the day so I really wished he was able to rejoin at the time. But I can understand why not everyone was down with it. His season 8?9? prank really sealed the deal tho of him every returning lol.
What prank did he do?
@@grubkiller4616 talking about the one where he pretended to be on hermitcraft with all the fake chat messages in game from members
Another reason he probably was shunned was due to some.... alleged legally dubious advertiser work he did for a few games and servers during the time he was in Mindcrack. Bdubs was caught up in it too, but whereas Bdubs realized he was in the wrong and fixed the legal issue on his videos (disclosure of sponsorship) Generic refused to. This actually became so much of an issue that Guude's lawyer allegedly advised that it could come back to bite the server if Genny was involved in the business side of it. I don't think he was hard kicked off mindcrack, but he was..... encouraged to leave.
Unfortunatley, Bdubs, Etho, Doc, and Beef were still mindcrack members about this time, and they had all joined hermitcraft by the time Genny asked to come back, I'm sure most of the hermits were uncomfortable about his past actions, and a bunch of the hermits at that time had been ON HERMITCRAFT S1 when Genny abaned them.
This and the whole him pretending to be in season 8 are all reasons he will never likley be accepted back.
@@_QWERTY__ Yeah, GenerikB clearly thrown away any chances to ever come back to the server he created by that prank. However he did realize he fucked up with that, as he ended the stream and donated all the money he got from viewers to the charity and publicly apologized. For this reason, I would give him a chance to redeem himself and probably ask him to do a collab video together. GenerikB seems to be pretty funny and pretty good guy, might test his Minecraft knowledge today by playing some of Deathswap I'm actually developing.
He created HermitCraft to get content, and saw a better option on mindcrack at the time. I was a arkas/etho/doc viewer at the time :D
So let me put another prospective-
GB for sure started HC with some still going players and others when he was denied Entry into mindcrack. Actually Hypno was the one who coined the name Hermitcraft. But when he was invited onto mindcrack after hc s1 was ending, he disbanded the group completely and left them on their own. This left a sour taste in their mouth. He wasn't the one who chose Xisuma the next owner, it was selected by the left group that X will lead the charge and frankly s2 was the real start of hc when mumbo, cleo and many others joined and it became mainstream. The group grew, many came and went and hc kept going. Mindcrack ended due to Gudde trying to make it a corporation while many members didn't agree with him. Some of them came to join hc after sometime. And during the time, he was also involved in some shady sponsorships and other controversies. During s5, he asked to rejoin the group but was denied on the basis of not fulfilling the group's base of requirements like making Minecraft vids constantly, playing Minecraft survival etc. He was asked to request again if he gets active on yt side again. But from my knowledge didn't contact them for two more seasons. Addressing this he made some reddit posts/comments, in which he and his fans formed the narrative that Xisuma has denied him personally bcz he doesn't wanna lose the server control while it's clear that HC works on an all member agreement system, bcz of this X got many negative comments towards him. During s7, he started a series on twitch with a duplicate pack of iskall's VH and claimed his own, it started yet another controversy between him and hermits. When s8 started, he constantly teased his return on twitter and even on the launch day, did a stream on a fake hc server with bots running the Minecraft chat impersonating hermits. Unknowingly the audience welcomed him with many subs, bits and donos. Later when hermits called him out on it, he stated that he donated the money gained to charity after hige backlash.
All this is from an outsider fan prospective, personally feels very off from these interactions.
after reading this this video sounds more like a fan ignoring all the bad stuff to focus on only the good stuff.
Jesus, that’s definitely not okay. Hermitcraft is a positive and drama-free zone (as much as is ever humanly possible), and that guy definitely doesn’t fit the vibe
Generikb had been moving around a bit and around the world too. Nevertheless, I believe it was more so related to yt culture and the demonetizations that lead him to transfer platforms. Also he hardly ever plays Vanilla Minecraft anymore.
Everything you said is right except the part about mindcrack ending because Guude wanted the mindcrack brand to be more of an organization for raising money for charity. Most of the mindcrack members lost interest in playing Minecraft, those who didn't either continued on the mindcrack server or moved to the hermitcraft server, like doc and beef. Most of the mindcrackers switched to streaming on twitch as well.
Mindcrack still is around and they hang out and play games still, but mindcrack is mostly focused on raising money for charity.
@@Skypost4ever No he is actually correct that Mindcrack failed because Guude wanted them all to sign contracts. Thats why bdubs left and many others. Then the popularity of mindcrack fell. Guude on his own is a lazy slob and the failure of his channel shows just how much he depended on the other mindcrackers, and why he wanted them to sign contracts.
Im surprised you didnt mention the time he pretended to be in hermitcraft on stream using mods only to be exposed by hermits on twitter. This was around 2-3 years ago, im pretty sure I have the vod lol
I’d like to see what he was pretending to do so I guess I would be interested to see the vod
do you still have the vod? i'm interested in seeing it
Wouldnt say no to that
@@orimengu youtube auto-removes comments with video links so im actually not sure how I should post this
@@Mirtual maybe by making a community post?
I would give TFC the true hermit.
o7
Literally the only "hermit" that was doing it right.
F
they both can be
RIP Though
The ONLY hermit. The rest are posers. TFC embodied the name. The rest are commies.
Basically it boils down to he gambled and lost. He chose the wrong server thinking it would skyrocket and when the regret kicked in, it was too little too late.
no treason at all, he ditched the "dying server" for much popular mindcrack, ALL members have to agree for someone to join and some didnt want him there
Literal no names drunk with power. Would be cool to know who voted what
@@_.-. he ditched them why would you want him back
@@_Apollo. Not how that works. Some hermits have left other servers to join Hermitcraft which even caused those servers to die completely.
@@_.-.No name? q
@@_.-. No names? i hope they all voted no
To shed some more light on this: around the time of hc season 6 he clickbaited his viewers on twitch by saying he returned to hermitcraft and had some bots of the hermits names to log into “hermitcraft” also using it to get bits, donations, and subs. After the stream he claimed it was a joke, the hermits rightfully called him out.
I am not siding with anyone, only giving some info that was left out.
The line "the hermits rightfully called him out" sounds like picking sides, at least on this topic
@@PrincessBouncyBall1714when I said ‘rightfully’ I meant as in the fact the average person would call someone out on this if this situation had to do with their server. But I can see why that appears that way 😅
Season 8 not 6
And plenty of hermits are still good friends with Genny despite his trolling, namely Bdubs, Iskall, Tango, and Impulse.
From twitter at the time it’s clear that xB and Cleo were not happy with Genny.
@@miniciominiciominicio Don't think iskall likes hime that much, they had some beef back in the end of season 7 with GB making a "fake" VH modpack. Thay had somoe back and forth on twitch.
I didn't know about this but I kinda feel iffy about him when he played a knocked off version of vault hunter which is a fruit of hardwork of iskall, which, while they never been on the same season as iskall is newer member on HC and generikb is only on for the first one, it's kinda a bad move and a disrespect for him to do so and making fun of being called out for something that's clearly not the right thing to do.
Guude has always maintained that Genny and Bdubs’ undisclosed advertising stunt was what led him to turn Mindcrack into a registered business so he would have legal leverage to prevent situations like that. The paperwork that came with that drove Etho among others away from the server and the B-Team were removed from the group. That mass exodus of some of their most popular creators killed Mindcrack.
With that context, it’s easier to see why the hermits would be wary of the guy.
As for Bdubs, he rejoined Hermitcraft in Season 5 as part of the New Hermit Order arc with Etho, Doc, and Beef and it seems like they were a bit of a package deal there. Not to mention he always had his building series and really cleaned up his brand after Mindcrack.
What was it bdubs and genny did? I don’t remember at all
@@notoriouslego8204They were paid a lot of money to make videos advertising pay-to-win servers to their audience (mostly children) and did not disclose the advertising (illegal). And in the fallout surrounding that, Mindcrack realized they couldn't hold their members accountable for stuff like that and its reflections upon other members unless they were a formal trademark.
That thumbnail lost you a subscriber. There is no betrayal Generikb gave hermitcraft its name but not its identity.
Actually the name was suggested by @Hypnotizd, an og still going member of hc
@@richlearner2723 I always assume it was Generikb since he goes by the name of "the gaming hermit"
@@wiredcoffee9347 yep it is based on his nickname but isn't coined by him
He doesn’t care who you are now get off his page 😂😂
@@Rawanddd the hell is your problem with ppl correcting a video?
12:05 You forgot to mention he streamed from "The hermitcraft server". He set up bots impersonating the hermits, some hermits he never interacted.
He did not create the most popular smp, he founded it and then abandoned it while it was unpopular. Xisuma and others made it popular, especially after Grian joined it.
Tbh it is not even appropriate to call him the founder, all other players from s1 are founders as well, cuz it's literally called smp.
“He didn’t create it, he founded it” are you dumb? “He didn’t found it because it’s called smp” Ok you are dumb, you think that because it’s called survival multiplayer that means every player from season one created it. Get a grip with reality buddy.
WRONG
@@timewarpdrive77
Saying "Wrong" makes it sound like you're saying the entire thing is wrong.. Which is pretty funny since that makes YOU wrong. Sure the first part of what German said was wrong but you didn't specify in the slightest...
@@BurningBridgeStudios Lmao; that whole thing gives me "To Be Fair, You Have To Have a Very High IQ to Understand Rick and Morty" vibes
Huh. I'm not going to say it's Grian, but looking at Google Trends, Hermitcraft was fairly steady up until season 6, where it got a boost of popularity (this is the season Grian joined), and then season 7 is where it got the most searched. Season 7 was also, imo, the best Hermitcraft season. That's the season that had Mumbo for Mayor and Grumbot, the Turf Wars, The Button, and Decked Out.
how has bdubs not aged at all
IKR? His channel is doing in incredibly well
I remembered generikb. He was my childhood. Many years later, I tried to remember his name/channel and look for the videos and I could find nothing new.
Anyone else remember his RV?
Extremely clever base design. Can just plop down wherever. Easy role play anywhere anytime.
He streams on Twitch.
Oh man the RV just dredged up some deeply buried memory
Everyone is speculating on what happened. Ill tell you what really happened. While on mindcrack Generikb and bdubs accepted a sponser for a mafia game to promote, but didnt disclose that they were sponsored on camera. Kinda shitty right? Thats what Guude thought as well so he decided to draft a contract that would hold mindcrackers accountable by having their identity public, and signing to uphold ideals like disclosing sponsors.
Generikb, and bdubs both left after this, as was the intention, but so did other creators like etho who didnt want their name public. All these ppl leaving left the server without its large names, so it would eventually die.
Bdubs apologized for his actions, and was accepted into hermitcraft. Generik did not. Generik was additionally also not allowed in bc he wasent consistently uploading mc.
Idk if you've seen any of gennys streams but his community is toxic, and he clearly hasent let go. Guude tried to keep all of this on the down-low and took the blame for mindcrack ending.
This is all info ive gathered over the years, and directly from Guudeboulderfists comments.
I would love to hear your response to this info jamseyjam
I had forgotten that gaming fiasco had happened. Guude taking the pr hit is so like him though.
my understanding is they didn't like his rejoining hermitcraft prank, another thing is i watch his twitch streams and he isn't really family friendly or one to make content only livestream he likes to do his own thing and not really play with others, that would disrupt the peaceful friendly family friendly atmosphere the current hermits have at the moment.
That "do his own thing" bit reminds me of TinFoil Chef. You wouldn't see TFC much in other Hermits videos, but he was member of the server anyway, doing his own thing down in the branchmines. But I wouldn't describe TFC's content as chaotic, ike GenerikB's content was, so it wasn't about being standalone outsider type of guy, it was more about the nature of his content being quite edgy. That doesn't explain how Grian got in the server tho, because Grian was certainly a new form of content for the server, mainly pranks and chaos. Grian's content is something I would describe as chaotic and a little bit edgy. GenerikB's content is on another level tho.
@@CZghost
Grians style changed a lot when he joined hc I think
@@CZghost ye but grian is still family friendly and he was family friendly before hc too. Not to mention he already had a big audience
@@CZghost "edgy" nah and chaos was not new with grian the previous season had the nho and the convex causing problems
This feels suspect to me.
I've watched Hermitcraft videos with rape jokes in them.
They can't be that uptight about being child-friendly.
I remember watching Mindcrack starting somewhere in the middle of season two. Generik was genuinely terrible from the first time I started watching. Calling Bdub's fans 'stalkers' and 'psychos' because they were excited when Bdubs told him about his wife's pregnancy and calling Etho, Pause and Beef's fans 'cringey' or 'weird' (which, at the time, was considered okay but eventually became less okay when it grew more constant). Whenever he played on PlayMindcrack (their old minigame server) he would cheat or say not-very-nice things in chat. I only ever played with him once and it put me off playing for a long time.
He was also one of the only MindCrack boys to tell fans to 'stop crying' when both PlayMindCrack and the actual MindCrack server went down permanently. I also remember, back around 2012/2013, he had a bunch of people ticked off at him because of racist comments and some people saying he'd gone 'the PauseUnPause route', but I'm not sure many people actually believed the second one.
what did pause do ?
Hey there! Great video overall. However, I do feel it’s important to mention a couple things which might help to paint a clearer picture.
For starters, GenerikB wasn’t accepted to MindCrack initially. In fact, his first attempt was rejected by Guude. Based on what both have said in videos, it seems as though it came off as a little desperate, which led to him being turned out. It was after this decision that Generik decided to start HermitCraft and invite some other Minecraft CZcamsrs that he’d collaborated with in the past.
From what I’ve been able to gather, the first season of HermitCraft was rather chaotic, with a revolving cast of players who joined and left at a rapid pace (a couple of people didn’t even produce a single video on the server). My main theory is that he more set up HC as a resume builder of sorts, with the hopes that it’d prove how what he’d be able to bring to an SMP setting.
As for his departure from HC, I distinctly remember him saying in the video you reference that one of the reasons he was leaving was because of a belief that he wouldn’t be able to keep up with two SMPs simultaneously. He was therefore forced to choose, and back then it was an easy choice. MindCrack was on a seemingly limitless climb with virtually no end in sight, which HermitCraft was more or less on the verge of dying. Based on those facts, I doubt he had to mull it over very much.
As for his involvement afterwards, there isn’t really any substantial evidence to indicate that he remained an active member of the group in any capacity. The closest thing we have is an unconfirmed report of him having invited a streamer by the name of Ven0mKisser to HC at the start of Season 2, but there’s no hard evidence to back this up.
All told, at least from what I can tell, HermitCraft was started by GenerikB as a direct response to his attempt to join MindCrack getting rejected. It was a hastily thrown together project (hence the world corruption issues early on in its life), and no one could’ve possibly predicted where it was going to go back then.
As for how I know all of this, I’m an early fan of HermitCraft and have posted a series of videos on my channel about the history of the server. You can feel free to check them out if you wish, though the quality is admittedly rather shoddy. I’m also happy to answer any questions and discuss any of these points if you’d like.
Again, great video!
Dude, I subscribed to your channel years ago because of the videos you made about HC. Had to go and doublecheck and sure enough I'm still subscribed. Weird to see your name pop up again!
watched Minecraft content 10 years ago and got back into it now. funny how my favorite back then was Genny and now Hermitcraft is. I jump onto his streams once in a while, but only feels an odd melancholy for a time passed. glad he’s still trucking on, but his humor sure hasn’t aged well at all.
Today i learned...
Bdubs is secretly an eldritch being who does not age
There are more information about why he wasnt allowed back out there. its not just about the PG friendly nature of hermitcraft, I remember when he did a sponsored minecraft series without announcing the videos were sponsored which was against some rules if i remember correctly, while not a huge deal at the time because youtube was still young, some people explained that even after telling him he wasnt respecting youtube rules he didnt change anything and continued the series. its not only about the PG friendly nature of hermitcraft.
Also, you very much skimmed over the ''joke announcement'' he did when said he was joining hermitcraft again. It was an extremely bad taste joke and he put a LOT of effort into deceiving everyone and, it seems, keeping the joke going for as long as possible while receiving tons of donations doing so. He had custom mods that made it seem like other Hermitcraft players we're IN his game with him, going as far as fake chat messages using their names WITHOUT their permission, and also showing them in the tab Players list in game. If I remember right it took at least an hour or two until he finally admitted it wasnt real, despite MANY people in chat confirming that he was NOT in the same game as other Hermits who were also streaming simultaneously and confirming he was not playing with them at all.
the others DID not allow him to use their name in this way and many of them we're not happy at all about this. It was a terrible scam and not a funny joke at all, literally using other famous youtuber's name for HIS profit. Donating the money to charity doesnt excuse this in any way, as if you do some research you can easily learn how donating large amounts of money like this is beneficial for the person donating it. He couldve donated it directly to the people which he abused their name for his profit instead, but of course he didnt.
it is more than obvious he was NOT ok with hermitcrafts decision to not allow him on the server, and he showed it pretty clearly that day.
I used to love generikb and the B-team but he showed his true colors as a scam artist and its fair to say that some of the players who knew him behind the scenes for a long time already knew this about him, and thats why he was not allowed back on hermitcraft.
Exactly. He was basically also the reason Guud had to do what he did with Mindcrack , his shady business was going to take them all down with him .
You’re making it sound like such a big deal, but that joke actually sounds funny as fuck
Honestly he shouldn't have donated the money to anyone. If it was legitimately "just a prank", he should have fully refunded every single donation he received during that stream. Those people gave him money thinking it would contribute to us seeing new Hermitcraft videos from GenerikB, not to support some charity.
Donating the money to a charity doesn't change the fact that he received the money under a false pretense that he created, thus it's a scam!
@@LRM12o8 yes . I used to love generikb but this left such a sour taste in my mouth I cannot bare to even see him anymore. I cant understand how he did this but still will die on the hill of ''there is no beef between me and hermitcraft''. what a fucking sad joke of a streamer a has become.
I remember Guude had a video were he said he didnt liked genny at first because how he was trying to get into mindcrack, he said that it made bad impression on him for the way he was acting and trying to get in the server
I met GenerikB and BDoubleO at the B-Team meetup in Chicago! That was at the time where his Hermitcraft videos basically stopped but it wasnt confirmed yet. I even asked him when more Hermitcraft was coming out and he said soon but that never happened sadly. Well not in the way I wanted haha
I remember watching GenerikB years ago, although I had kinda forgotten of his existence until this video popped up in my recommended. I had no idea he had started Hermitcraft though, I only knew him for his subnautica and stranded deep series
same actually, i used to watch those when i was younger
Man, I know I am late the party on this but hearing that outro brought a tear to my eye. I just recently started watching some of his streams again now that he is dual streaming on twitch and youtube. This video brings back so many memories. Thank You
Attack of the B-Team modpack was the shit back in the day, both watching series(Genrik B's as well as others) and playing it myself, one of my favorite technic packs.
I would love to see one of these on Sips. Him and sjin made some of my favorite minecraft videos back in the day. Unfortunately I believe there was some controversy regarding sjin awhile back so it may be too much of a rough subject
This is different than what I remember happening. From what I recall, once Genny and Bdubs started doing games together they became best friends. That's when/why Genny left HC to join Mindcrack. Because he wanted to play with Bdubs, doc and Etho. Two servers worth of content was too time intensive and he made the choice of what was more fun, so he chose to do Mindcrack. After that it was all "B-Team." Two best friends playing all kinds of games and having fun. When Genny moved to Bulgaria the time difference started to become and issue for them to play together, and when he eventually moved to Phuket it was just impossible for him and Bdubs to do anything meaningful together. Around that same time something happened with his CZcams money and Genny decided to switch to a mainly Twitch/livestream based content model. He said he could get a LOT more money doing that, and it fit his lifestyle better. I doubt there's any animosity between him and the other people from the servers he played on. It's just life stuff.
This is it exactly...but it's the internet, after all. Folks are going to make all sorts of assumptions based on things they have heard and read online. Not much I can do about that unfortunately.
I don't read lots CZcams comments often, but I will comment this comment based on what I have seen from various Generikb related videos:
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I hardly knew anything of what happened prior since I cared so little before, I was also too young at the time to really become too invested anywhere on CZcams.
Yet, here I am seeing a festering wound of people complaining about something that happened in the heat of the moment, potentially out of the sake of opportunity based on conflicting opinions of interest (in the past or present), or for some other reason that hasn't been disclosed.
I get that what happened between you and the other hermits was unfortunate, but that doesn't need to be the "be all or end all" kind of circumstance.
Furthermore, whenever someone makes mistakes, we need to be more transparent about how we address them so that way everyone can move on from them. I would know this too since I'm also a foolhardy person that translated poorly from being too shy and getting put down by people into becoming too hard on myself and others.
I think the intent of JamseyJam's video was to not start controversy or to address the potential "drama", but rather address the backstory of Generikb from a neutral perspective, so I think JamseyJam handled this informative video responsibly.
Although one could argue about the true intent of why JamseyJam posted the video, such as it lacking informative context or not, I don't think that matters as much since there is always other videos you can watch on the subject matter if someone is curious. I'm also almost certain JamseyJam made this video without any malicious intent once so ever.
If anyone has to permanently lose their own sense of self, public image, and/or any chance at redeeming themselves because of someone else's actions or because they think it's okay to constantly nag at them based on how they acted previously, then that is absolutely unjustified behavior. (In fact, I usually see this way too often across the internet)
I was once a victim of this, and anyone can be too.
Also, I am also responsible for that kind of behavior since I ended up acting similarly toward other people's negative behavioral tendencies.
We all need to ideally aim to become better and more responsible people over the course of our lives, and even if that "change" doesn't happen immediately, if people give up on someone because they're a late bloomer (like me), then what results is the same stupid cycle of projected hatred that is amounted from everyone's less than productive animosity and ends to their means.
We mustn't give into these negative tendencies, but rather forgive each other for our mistakes, be transparent about what happened and move on from them.
And just as a sidenote, typing up this comment made me realize something, that I'm still not doing enough to better myself yet. Thanks
@@Generikb For whatever reason I thought you went over all of this in one (or more?) of your videos. I don't think I just made up any of that info from nowhere 🤣 (I doubt you remember, but I'm the guy that originally gave you the name JunkDrawer for your horse. I definitely remember Bdubs hating it. haha)
I used to watch pretty much everything of GenerikB when he was living in Bulgaria.
GB went through the adapocalypse, which slaughtered YT revenue.
YT also appeared to change their algorithms and based upon another Eastern European YT'er that I follow, I don't believe that YT really promotes Eastern EU feeds into English speaking regions of Western Europe, US, Oz, NZ etc, so Gennie saw a further big drop in views on his videos. These had already dropped due to taking a break from MineCraft videos, but series like Subnautica, Stranded Deep were very entertaining and heavily followed prior to this algorithm change.
Gennie used to play a lot of varied games, but viewer numbers struggled, so he & the missus decided to go a travelling and release content while they did so.
There was South America & the travel agent saga, South Korea, Phuket in Thailand (I also lived there), then on to Indonesia and Bali if I recall correctly. After that, I'm not so sure.
Pretty much after leaving Bulgaria Gennie ditched YT for Twitch, as YT wasn't really making money like it used to, but he still used to upload to YT his VODs. Then he cut his YT uploads aside from an occasional YT update on his journey. Basically YT did a dirty on him.
I don't do Twitch, but he is streaming a range of stuff over there.
@@OneLeatherBoot Yeah man. That's how I remember it too.
This video makes me feel so old. I remember S1 of hermitcraft and Mindcrack. My favorite series were Feed The B-Team and fly boys😭
My guess for at least one of the reasons he may have been denied would be that weird sponsored controversy that he and bdubs had
It's new to me, do you have a link so I can read more or can you tell me a little more
@@sandiz83It was their series on the Wyncraft server. They didn't disclose that it was sponsored and it was a pay to win server targeted towards kids it felt like. Part of the reason Mindcrack made some of the decisions they did if I'm not mistaken
@@crazyk_bub7711 Can confirm
@@crazyk_bub7711 you mean the server that Grian owns?
@@baoge4591 That would be the one
I remember watching generikb for his stranded deep lets plays which I feel fit his persona really well.
Nice touch. "Take care, brush your hair. I'll see you when I see you."
I feel this video is doing exactly what GenerikB asked “So please don't create something out of nothing here, we're all better than that right?”
Although you are kind to GenerikB I think you do a disservice to the Hermitcraft community and created drama where there needn’t be.
Beyond the claim of "betrayal" (which is out of line) I think the video gives an even hand to GB, honestly and doesn't cause drama, but simply informs.
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@@MichaelMoore99 its just something that is dead and needs dropped. Most people dont even know who Genny is these days. If Genny had a good relationship with ANYONE he could and would still be making videos with them, outside of Mindcrack/Hermitcraft whatever. Theres a reason you dont see him with anyone else...
Nah this is documenting generik bs history
except it conveniently skips over some of the more unsavoury histories. @@jhudson_tiedye
It's crazy how much I used to watch GenerikB, because if he had stayed in the HermitCraft scene, I'd still be watching him today. Nice nostalgia trip for me :)
I miss Genny on CZcams, but I'm glad he's found a home on Twitch. I'd love to see a triumphant return to YT though. I think his subscriber base would increase a lot.
this video made me check him out and now i watch his streams and videos, amazing guy and fun to watch
Xisuma didnt want him back. Its simple.
Rather melodramatic video to say the least. Calling it betrayal, the dramatic music and grandios language when just talking about one of the countless SMPs of that time that just happened to have the other people on it that had the dedication to make it grow. So yeah, I understand why he wasn't let back on. Having a dedicated minecraft channel seems like the absolute minimum of criteria for joining. That server is the livelyhood of a bunch of creators who've dedicated so much time and effort with passion. It takes work. If you don't at least show that you're putting that level of effort in, then yeah. Didn't seem like GenerikB had any drama with this, but despite the video stating as much, it most definately implied drama behind the scenes as if you want to make a big deal out of this. Again, "betrayal" and the overdramatic music and language. My eyes were rolling so much I feared they'd fall to the floor.
Thanks, I don't like channels that do this it's really unfortunate that the algorithm heavily favors such creators.
Found this on my algorithm and in my opinion, based on this video and the comments, if I am a hermitcraft member telling me to vote whether to bring him back or not, the most sane answer would be no.
Imagine your lover living you for another person that's wealthier than you, then that person went bankrupt and you got wealthier instead, and your ex lover wants to come back to you. Would you go back together or not? Most people that want him back, would also choose the former.
Those 2 situations aren't anywhere near comparable, this is a team of people playing Minecraft not a romantic relationship, and regardless, BdoubleO also stopped playing on Hermitcraft in favor of MindCrack yet was still allowed to join any future seasons.
Here is a different imagine scenario, say you and a few friends created a business together, but it just doesn't reach what the main boss wanted, and so he leaves for another company, then through the staying workers and new workers under a new boss it rises up in profit while the company the original boss left to go work at falls under. Would you let the og boss back in after he abandoned you and all the others?
My favorite minecraft CZcamsr who really got me into the game and shapes how I played was Monkeyfarm. I never hear people talk about him anymore and it’s such a shame because he was an absolute legend, especially with his 2nd world LP
I remember watching GenerikB's modded series called Agrarian Skies. I remember watching the whole series and it was pretty fun. Oh and Diversity was such an amazing map that the creators made Diversity 2 and Diversity 3 which were also amazing. Sadly, QMagnet(I think this is the main dev's name) stopped working on the diversity maps to pursue creating bedrock marketplace content so Diversity 4 wont be a thing.
So many memories. The old days of mindcrack and hermitcraft are iconic
thanks for including the traditional GennyB's outro. that was a perfect choice.
This video is full of misinformation and leaves out vital moments like the drama between him and Mindcrack where he was found making and not disclosing sponsored server videos.
I remember watching his hermitcraft videos long ago. They were fun and introduced me to some mods I still use today if I ever boot up Minecraft
You're still using mods from 10 years ago? How the hell do you get the to run?
12:34 thank you so much for using this song, i have been trying to find it since i first heard it 7 years ago XD
Great video, but as someone who was there through all of this, there's a lot you've skipped over or missed
- That first video was a video response to Etho. Back then you could essentially reply with videos on CZcams. Really cool feature. Docm77's first video was also one to Etho.
- I think younger people really under estimate how popular MindCrack was. Even though their metrics at the time are nowhere near the top Minecraft e-celebs of today, they had a huge dedicated community. Pretty much every MC CZcamsr back then heard of MindCrack and were fans of their server. It was unavoidable. Everyone wanted to play on a server like MindCrack. High trust friendly SMP was so appealing thats why you see the format continue to this day.
- Generikb being killed by the anvil happened during the MindCrack 2013 Charity Marathon. That stream was MindCrack at its absolute peak. Generik came on a little drunk and said if someone donated $1,000 he'd blow up his base. Someone did and they blew it up. Someone then donated another $1,000 to restore a server backup so Etho's anvil kill was reversed.
- He didn't just stop uploading MindCrack - he left with Etho, BDoubleO, thejims and paulsoaresjr in 2015 during the MindCrack business controversy. He remained a 'VIP' (i.e. access to the server) but never went back.
- Generik actually tried to videos after MindCrack. Even rebooted his LP series. Problem was he just didn't get the views anymore. He tried Twitch streaming for a while but it also didn't pull the views. Also I think some personal family issues came up and that was part of why he stepped back.
I loved the entire B-team thing. The entire server hanging around GB's house when he was drunk and blew it up, while Etho was trying to anvil-kill him. Or the time they placed all the wooden fences in his base, lagging out the game.
What's funny is that I turned to comments, and nearly every single one names a completely different theory on why the man's been denied joining hermitcraft back...
Super interesting! Keep up the good work, brother!
Means a lot thank you!
I've been waiting years for this story.
Man, I remember GenerikB from the later days of Mindcrack's heyday (2013 and 2014) and some Mindcrack group servers like Fly Boys. I really miss the somewhat more mature nature of Mindcrack. For some reason GenerikB is oddly nostalgic.
i was waiting for someone to make a video about him! im a big hermitcraft fan
A little correction on the story. Bdubs joined Hermitcraft along with Pungence, Skizm, and Juicetra all as a way to play a huge prank on I believe Xisuma and Biffa. I remember it being called "Plan B" and that the b-team was already an established thing, so bdubs wasn't as original to Hermitcraft as say Xisuma, Hypno, and JoeHills were. The funny thing is that after that, Bdubs didn't really put out any Hermitcraft content until after he and GenerikB left Mindcrack (Mindcrack business incorporation/controversy with the pay to win server), so even though Bdubs was a member of Hermitcraft since Season 1, he didn't really participate until Season 5.
GenerikB was one of my favorite creators when I was younger and I watched him in Hermitcraft Season 1. He was the main way I got into watching Minecraft SMP CZcamsrs. That being said, there are one too many controversies for me to fully respect him. Mindcrack was fun and I watched it more than Hermitcraft for a while but Hermitcraft has ultimately had a longer lasting formula and less drama. My favorite Mindcrackers were Bdubs, Etho, Beef, and Zisteau so I was happy to see most of them end up on Hermitcraft and revamp their SMP series.
Genny was a pretty cool guy. I remember getting into his Evil Genius lets play back when I was like 16 and honestly enjoyed his non-minecraft videos more than the minecraft videos themselves. But I also know at some point I kinda just... stopped watching? I guess I had just not really enjoyed the games he was playing around that time with a few exceptions like his Unturned series.
And since I'd not even heard of Hermitcraft prior to the tail-end of S 5, learning he was the one who made it and that he wasn't allowed back in (regardless of if his motivation for wanting to rejoin) is a bit upsetting.
But, hey, gotta appreciate the guy for getting the ball rolling at least!
i love his lego gameplays till today i miss him i wish hed come back😢
THATS CRAZY, when i heard about the b-team in the video, i was reminded of that pack, cant believe kb made that
Your video style would be great for making a video essay about TheMasterCaver- that man is insane
I enjoyed the video , nice to get some history, thru the video and commens. I ve heard GB and Bdubs 2gether in streams. As an older "gentleman" i enjoy bdubs so much more when he is interacting with his old friends particularly GB seems more real and i relate more. Im around the same age. I do get tho that even without the other controversies the vibe doesnt fit HC.
It would be great to have a space where some rated R stuff was allowed and get to see some of them in more natural setting. I do see that it would never be possible as the content would get out and possibly ruin what they have going. Ill just continue to read between the lines.
I remember playing with him for a short time on Burpcraft server before he started the Hermitcraft server seeing how much fun it could be to have a youtuber server.
great video man
He sounds like a great content creator and minecrafter, but I can see how he comes off as not very dedicated, reliable, or family-friendly. Seems to readily jump ship if it makes sense at the time, loses interest easily (frequent hopping between modded/other games), and invites controversy a bit too carelessly. He gives the vibe of someone who can be extremely rude/controversial and just tell people to lighten up. Seems like streaming would be the natural place for a person like that anyways, its much more spontaneous, personality-based, and is much easier to switch games entirely.
He was the first Minecraft channel I ever watched. I used to watch genericb over a decade ago. I remember when he put out that vid that he was moving completely to twitch... Sad day.
Great video. I miss him so much.
Man I was such a fan of this guy. Watched him with the other OG's from Mindcrack and HC back in the years. Fun fact GenerikB's wife is from Bulgaria(Thats where I live) and he had moved here in the country a few years ago. I was so hyped that someone like him lived here.
Awesome video! I miss Genny B and the B Team.
thank you for uploading this video. it brings back so many memories of watching GenerikB back then. it also reminds me of the difference in the content back then and the content now. back then we seen more videos of what was going on, unlike today were you don't get to see as much as we did back then. we could watch as the builds happened and it was interesting as the creators talked about the build and asked the viewers what they thought. I miss that interaction with the creators. it may have taken a month to do what the creators do in a week today, but there was a lot more interaction back then.
GenerikB was the reason I realized Etho was truly my favorite youtuber. I only watched Etho's vids for a long time, and then he joined up on Mindcrack and I thought GenerikB was kinda funny so I thought you know what, he also plays minecraft. I should watch his stuff, I bet it's as good as Etho's! While entertaining, Generik's content was just soley that. Content. There wasn't nearly enough heart and thought put into it, and it really seemed to me like he was just doing whatever was funny at the moment, and throwing it up on youtub. Etho on the other hand was planning out and searching for new and interesting ways to play the game, trying constantly to innovate in anything he did to keep his experiences fresh and entertaining. All of this was revealed to me quickly, in some episode of Hermitcraft where Generik went into the nether, dug thousands of blocks in random directions, and then put a portal down and just so happened to pop out on the super rare, and brand new biome at the time, the mesa. I knew instantly that he was all show and no substance, it was all an act. He tried to play it off like it was some crazy luck, but I knew the odds of that happening were near zero. I can't remember as vividly the other thing that bothered me, but it had something to do with him spawning in items. I think it was just the sheer amount of redstone he had in his singleplayer world that was essentially evidence to me that he just cheats in his materials.
I'm sure a lot of you watching this vid really liked this youtuber a lot, and I'm not trying to attack you or him! I'm just sharing my opinions and interests, and why I think he fell off compared to other minecrafters. I feel like the people still gaining viewership in minecraft let's plays are truly playing the game. Because that's what people want to do, feel like they get to play along with the youtuber. Once I watched him do these things I immediately felt watching was a waste of time, "he didn't actually achieve anything in the game, he's just goofing around in creative while nobody's looking" is all my brain can see.
This is why I think Tango deserves the popularity he's gotten with Decked Out. It's absurd that someone took 13 months of their life, working non-stop to literally build a fully functional game, inside another game, without cheating. He got help from other minecrafters, paid for materials, and truly built this thing from scratch. This is the thing I think Generik was missing that the other hermits decided against his return. He never felt like that caliber of minecrafter. He was entertaining, a funny guy, and truly a unique character that would make any group more interesting with his presence, but he's just not a Hermit anymore. The hermits I see playing on the server are minecrafters through and through.
Anyways, I hope you all don't take this the wrong way, I just think he wasn't a perfect fit. I believe if he wanted to, he could start again with new friends and make his own genre of minecraft videos completely separate from basic lets play series. It does kind of suck though to not really know who the person behind the videos is. One of the best parts of watching minecraft videos is having a friend who plays the same game you do. You just can't ever really get to know them.
Good video. Well-explained.
He abandoned the server for Mindcrack because he wanted views more than anything. When minecrack failed, he wanted back o the boat he'd abandoned. That's why they said no.
Generikb's Agrarian Skies series was what got me back into Minecraft after my first life-induced hiatus, and I wound up watching every POV from the AOtBT server after that. Hermitcraft was too much additional time to commit to adding to my watch list, so I appreciate the additional info; when generikb left CZcams the details still seemed fairly shrouded, so I'm glad to know more about the situation.
Another thing I very much appreciate: your sign-off. 😉
Some areas didn’t feel like that had a connection to the core of the video but still got all the info I was looking for
The term your looking for is padding, used in UI design as well as youtube videos
I found generikB from mindcrack and loved him and bdouble0 series. Attack of the bteam was great. Im gonna miss those 2 together for sure
that was adorable and I'm so glad to have stumbled upon this video! I hope GenericB gets to one day play with Bdubs on the server he created once more. So sweet, you made an amazing short-documentary!
legit just remembered this guy.... used to watch his GangZ series long ago...
That thumbnail really let you down! I avoided this video until the third time it cropped up in my recommended because I thought it'd be stirring up drama. This vid's really well made
I appreciate it dude, will consider that for future videos!
I didn't know he started Hermitcraft, I only knew him from his Subnautica videos. It actually all makes sense now as to why it's called Hermitcraft lol. It's also interesting to find out the origins of Attack of the B Team, I always thought it was a strange name and wondered what it meant
Haven't heard of this guy in years, used to watch him ages ago.
i feel like is 100% what generikb himself says in his post. he has not played nor uploaded anything minecraft related for a long time. if you are going to join hermitcraft. just because of your name is not a good excuse. im quite sure that most of the hermits have not problems with generikb, in fact im quite sure that bdubs would be very happy if he gets his partner in crime back.
is just that generikb needs to be relevant in the minecraft sphere again, then he couldprobably join no problem. i can see he doing a couple series with bdubs, or maybe one alone (an skyblock one, or something on those lines). if he is able to make entertaining content during those series and the response in views is minimally decent he would probably be in easily.
after the stunt he pulled making it appear that he was playing on the server with the other hermits for season 8 or 9. don't remember which but that's beside point. He will never be invited back.
hearing Bdubs name again after all this time physically ages me 50 years
I always watched generikb's Lego Star Wars series, never knew he was a big deal in the minecraft scene
Oh thank you for this informative video! I always wondered what happened to GenerikB. I first learned of him through paulsoaresjr and his let's play of Attack of the B-Team. I truly loved those videos and downloaded and played the mod (up until my old game pc died). Not having a laptop powerful enough to handle all the mods, I finally have a new gaming PC so I'm messing around with it once again. It's too bad they wouldn't let him back on the Hermitcraft server. I know I watched a a series mainly due to a Canadian Minecraft YTer called VintageBeef and it didn't seem all that "kid friendly".
I used to watch him heavily. this jerks quite the memory
i think they should always have a spot for the orignal creator.
i strongly disagree, creating a server doesnt mean you deserve to be on the server forever, the creator of a server i'm on got kicked out for reasons im not sure i'm allowed to disclose, he will never come back because he doesnt deserve to
I'm from that area of Oklahoma, surprised that there are a few popular CZcamsrs from the middle of the US
I had thought that his moving to Europe where his wife had family had something to do with it, as it was shortly after that he stopped making minecraft videos with the others. I figured it was a time zone issue scheduling games with the others.
He has returned and is uploading streams, and streaming on YT. The hermit has left his shell.
i saw xisuma's short video about asking hermit questions but they're only allowed to answer it incorrectly,
one of the most commonly asked question is ''who will be next hermit'' which kinda normal at first but now i kinda feel there will be a new/old hermit playing in season 10
His stranded deep series went hard when he first found the game
About a week ago I was trying to find his account but could not remember what his name was. Crazy this video just popped up
There was some deception with hawking a pay to play server and not disclosing his was invested in it as well.
Never knew the history but when I was younger I have a vague memory of his modded minecraft videos.
'Child friendly'
They still make more adult jokes, haven't you heard about Scar and his stripping skills?
They are way more child friendly than they used to be
@@blueslushie7716 True true
But scar really has to stop being so easy to take out of context.
"Oh! I forgot my pants"
"I am a master stripper"
@@craytherlaygaming2852 at least it makes good content
@@blueslushie7716 True... true dat
Out of context
is the best context
GenerikB: "please don't create something out of nothing here"
This video: *creates something out of nothing* "BETRAYAL?"
You missed the bit when he and bdubs were paid to sponsor servers and didn't disclose that they were being paid to do so.
And Bdubs is on the Hermitcraft Server and Genny's not? What's the point?
@@baoge4591 Genny is a bit more narcissistic than bdubs imo. Bdubs did go back and put in the video description about the sponsorships. I think Genny just had too much negativity around him for the hermits to invite him back.
@@Skypost4ever BDubs also apologised, something Genny still refuses to do till this day
This hermit was something else. Like something crazy.
watched them all the time as a kid, thank you for making a big ol video about em. lots of memories flooded back after this one
GenerikB got burnt out on Minecraft at the same time his mother in law got told she had a short time left to live. It meant he had to move to Europe so he and his beautiful wife could care for her mom during her last months. He was burnt out as no updates to Minecraft came in years, and he was in a time zone that didnt match his friends on Mindcrack. But this was his job and he needed the income, so he did his best. When his mother in law died he was sad, but now he felt free to travel, move home and stop playing a game he was bored of. And Im glad he did.
He tried going back to Minecraft because his audience missed it so. And in one episode he said he had asked Xisuma if he could rejoin HC, but that they made a deal when he left that this was for all time, so the server wouldnt suffer if he joined and left again. And I think he knew he would never enjoy Minecraft like he used to. I think its a rather drama free story, really. He didnt expect to be let back in and it might have felt good just tobe able to tell his viewers he tried, so they would stop spamming every video.
He didn't really move home though, he moved to Thailand hmm I wonder why...